These are the updated Parts: Ford Racing Full Kit- amzn.to/2r85QBs Roller Followers (all model years) amzn.to/2r9zabs Lash Adjusters (2004) amzn.to/2r83WAO Lash Adjusters (2005-2014) amzn.to/2pFUDYw 5.4L 3v Repair Playlist- th-cam.com/play/PLnkaHoqfNwiFPohL7Hf9CAv-veTUzxQga.html
I have that triton 2004 5.4 3V, should I just do the cam phasers, timing chain and these all together, I have a slight ticking on & off, I have only used mobile 1; 5W-30...bought this brand new 170K miles. I love this truck & your vids are very useful thx👍
FordTechMakuloco l like yours videos they are the best, l have a concern about the PCV valve on 5.4 Triton engines if you have some information about it..thanks a lot !
I'm a full time tech going on 20+ years and I can count on 1 hand the number of techs if let fix my own vehicles and this guy is the real deal, great job on the videos, everything you are showing is correct, great job!
Absolutely my favorite channel for Ford education. Thanks for all the content you provide. Your 5.4L timing chain series made me decide to pay my mech to do it, instead of me wasting an entire week's vacation on it. lol... Thanks!
Some people make more using their time else where and possibly avoid a disaster waiting to happen, these things should be left to those people who have teeth for it lol
Thank you for making these videos. I bought a 05 F250 from my work for $1k. When I first started it up it sounded like a diesel... I knew this was not got. I didn't know anything about the triton 5.4l, but because of your videos I've learned a bunch. My company took the truck out of service because it died in an intersection while towing. I changed the oil, replaced spark plugs and switched to 5w30. Runs much better. Next thing is the rocker arms.
awesome vids brian,after letting my wife know how much that damn ticking noise just got the best of me every time i stopped at a light, did the job myself on my 2008 f250 4x4 super duty 5.4 triton at 120,400 miles after watching your complete walkthrough series and taking key notes,Cloyes timing kit-phasers from Freedom racing-Melling m360 oil pump which now holds a constant pressure at idle or across the rpm range-Ford vct's(updated version)BWD crank sensor since i was already there and would be a pain to do later-Ford lash adjusters, all 24,all Felpro gaskets,new serpentine belt and i always use the Motorcraft oil filter,have taken a few 5 hour trips to Va and back since and runs better than ever,my wife says thanks,she doesnt have to hear the ''F'' word at every idle.
My 2007 navigator was ticking and 2 of my spark plugs ended up being loose. Thanks to this man here I’ve fixed this prone to breaking engine all by myself and I have no mechanical experience whatsoever. This man knows his stuff. And evidently I got lucky that my plugs were loose instead of being seized and stuck considering I have a 3 valve
Good vids you have, thanks for the info. I had a 2008 F150 FX4, supercrew, for work. My truck had over 700,000 + KM, when I sold it. No problems at all with engine, never had to work on the brakes. Only the upper ball joints had to replace. I am a FORD man my whole life, started on the farm. All my trucks have had over 700,000+ KM when I sold them. Currently my 2014 5.0 L, has just over 330,000 +KM, running good.
I have a 2008 f 150, I'm starting to hear a clicking/rattling noise, very slight, I'm very new to mechanical stuff but I've learned a lot from your channel. You're a godsend, keep up thr good work and great videos.
Thanks for the good video. I went ahead and took out the camshaft on my pax side to inspect the lifters and rocker arms because I had a loud knocking noise at all rpms all the time. (Before I did this i changed the tensioners, solenoids, phasers, guides and still a loud knocking) Come to find that my rocker arm seized up completely. The bearing didn't just drop. It dropped and it locked up (a little cocked too). For info purposes it was the last intake valve on the pax side for #4 cylinder. Now I have no more knocking. Happy camper here.
Thanks for bringing such great info about pattern failures and part number revisions to the public. Very few youtubers provide this kind of inside info.
This was throughly helpful. Thank you for breaking it down. I'm getting ready to fix this "knocking" issue with my dad and wanted to do my research before teaming up with him and taking my Expedition apart again. (Not for the same issue). This is subscribe worthy.
Having same issue and I am going to have a helper too. This is my first f150 with this motor. I bought it with 105k miles and it was a maintained government vehicle. 112k miles on it now and it's getting worse! I would get a Chevy, that's what I'm going back to. They don't make trucks with these stupid motors with phasers and extra parts to help with gas. Just a simple pushrod engine that gets the same gas milage without all that messy useless time adjusting system. Good luck!
Your videos are simply awesome. Very thorough, not too much, not too little. My son's 2010 F-150 has a few of the issues you've detailed (bad phaser, ticking valvetrain) and we'll be tearing into it with confidence when the weather breaks.
My 2008 Expedition has 150k+ miles on it. After seing your videos I now understand my 5.4 3 valve much better. I do not have a knocking but have noticed a bit of a rough idle. I am taking it in to get the valvr covers pulled and the cams inspected. Knowledge is power and a good way to keep the purse strings loosened up. Thanks.
Thanks, after watching this video I recognized I was having the same issue with my 2008 F250. I had my local shop check it out and he was not sure what the issue was. I took it to the local Ford dealer and they found 2 rollers were shot and the cam was damaged. They replaced all the rollers, lash adjusters and put in a new cam. Fortunately I had a Ford extended warranty that covered all of it but $100. My truck has about 110000 miles on it. They say everything looks good. If I had not seen your video and been alerted to the issue, I most likely would have ignored the tapping until the motor blew. Thanks :-)
Great info. I can tell you and everyone else reading this, the info presented here will save your ass if you own a Daimler Chrysler OHC engine, the 3.7 and 4.7. They will fail in the exact same way, in fact they use the exact same lash adjuster as the Ford engines up until 08 when they changed them, they changed the followers in 05. Those engines will give the same symptoms as well, light ticking under the valve/cam cover and are also well known for kicking out the follower when the lash adjuster bleeds down during shut down. Start it up and out goes follower, if you're lucky it won't take out the head casting pedestal holding the lash adjuster. EDIT, I see the lash adjusters look like the revised ones Mopar used. The old ones had the oil feed hole in the side lower, the entirety of it was in the reduced OD in the middle of the adjuster body.
I recently did the full timing job on my 2007 Expy. Although all the followers & lash adjusters were good I replaced them anyway . I figured at nearly 200,000 miles it was good insurance to do so. Great video!
*Its a shame the 5.4 3 valve is really getting a bad rap of a motor just top end and phasers issues with plenty of warning signs, did my spark plugs with no issues also not that hard of a fix if you're mechanically inclined with your guidance the best procedure instructions on TH-cam.*
Thanks for posting another good video to prevent the Ford dealerships from stealing the hard earned money from people's pocket. I really wish you would do a video on how to replace the timing chains and plastic guide tensioners on a 4.0 SOHC.
Engine comes out to do the timing chains with the 4.0 Fords put on an engine stand.There is a rear one too and it is a PITA to do with it in the vehicle.
Yeah, I already know it. It's the most horrible design that any auto manufacturer has ever come out with. I'm glad they finally fixed it in 2004.5 on the Ford Ranger.
GM is this way too and this is with the Chevy Traverse,Buick Enclave,GMC Acadia and the Saturn version with the well known POS 3.6 engine.Engine comes out from the bottom to change timing chains
It took me a while to realize this is my truck, haha but seriously Brian does an awesome job, I have had no problems since having this done, very affordable compared to other mechanics or dealership!
Great tips, Brian. Hydraulic lash adjusters and rocker arms are definitely on the checklist during an engine teardown/timing job. I still want to hear that truck run! Would the failed rocker arms show up on a manual compression test?
I would think not because it's failing open; not failing closed. Compression should still hold unless damaged valve seats. If I'm wrong.... School me please. I don't want to walk around with false ideas. Lol
Good shit. Very informative. I bought a used 07 motor with 19,000 miles and put that in. Was alot of work but sounded better than the 04 did .Ford wouldnt stand by my 04 because i did my own oil changes
Nice video. I like your approach you take in your videos. It's almost like the viewers are attending a mechanic's workshop or class. I like the examples you present here...they really give someone a good idea of what is really going on as a result of failed components. If you're ever planning on coming to Virginia on a fix-it tour, let me know! I have a 2004 F-150 I'd like you to take a look at. Cheers!
After researching this and being personally involved with this engine. My findings agree with those of Makuloco,. The cause of the failure will always be discovered to be the result of low oil pressure. There are two major underlying causes which contribute to the 5.4 3V engine issues 1) The oil pressure is measured by an electronic switch, which does not indicate actual engine oil pressure. 2) The Cam chain tensioners are where the engine starts to loose oil pressure as their gaskets fail. The failure is not an immediate loss of pressure but a gradual loss over time, which is why that loss in pressure creates significant damage in the upper valve train area, specifically on the RH or Passengers side of the engine. Therefore improvement would be to move to a mechanical oil pressure gage, and to replace all of the upper components related to engine timing and all of the components on the RH (Passenger) cylinder head when reacting to what manifests itself as a continual ticking noise. Even though some of those components on the RH cylinder head might appear acceptable, their loss of oil pressure will cause excessive wear and not replacing them while inside the engine will simply require their replacement within a few thousand miles. ..
I have an 03 Triton that I'm babying along with over 200K miles. I'll have to make my way over to Chicago to have you look mine over- it's making the usual engine noises, but if you listen closer you can hear the cam and the rocker/cam followers tapping quietly away. Planning on doing an upper engine inspect/repair/seal in the next year or so. Like I said, I should bring it over (I live in Iowa) and have you do a tune up and listen to it, haha.
I want to thank you for your Excellent videos! Your in depth, informative, "average joe" productions have served me well, as I own a 04 F150 Lariat 5.4L. Your HD productions have helped me in ways I can't fully list. Again, thank you very much!!
I looked at a ford f150 once, it had the 5.4 3. Valve triton, looked like a fair price. I went home and got on you tube. Did some research, needless to say I did not buy the truck. Lol....
I have a what would you do question... Purchase an '04 F150 w/ 167K miles for $5800 and it just started tapping or '06 F150 w/ 126K miles for $9K. Take into account, you only have basic diy skills not the master tech you are. Great content and I've learned a lot watching you the past month since I started looking at Ford trucks! Thanks for your time.
Excellent video man i was looking all over an explanation on how to tell if the lash adjuster is good or bad and nothing now two months later i found this vid thank you for the info great video
Hey dude. Appreciate all the help! I recently performed a timing swap and a full follower/lash adjuster replacement. What I found when i got inside was all the followers checked out perfectly fine. However, all but two of the lash adjusters had approximately 1/4” slop. I could lifter the plunger (not depress it) about 1/4”. Seems weird after what you showed on your videos. Problem, after reassembly I have a temporary tapping noise that is worse than before but it gets quiet after about 30 seconds. ?!?!?! seems like the lash adjusters are not holding pressure when the the engine has set for a bit. An immediate restart after it has been running yields no tapping. The parts I used were sold as a Ford factory kit but… I will say the truck had not been maintained very well and it pretty varnished up inside. Is there and oil additive that I could use in case crap got inside the new adjusters and help clean them maybe?? Any help is greatly appreciated. Getting ready to retire and was hope to geet another 175000 out of the truck.
Hey would you please please please do a full tear down/ rebuild tutorial video on the 5.4 for poor people like me who's 07 expedition is dying but have no money to pay someone to do it for them. I got the truck from a friend for cheap and my wife is due any day now but I need my truck fixed but just can't afford it but I understand when you explain what your doing and actually trust you for a guide. Everyone please like this comment to get him to see it and you'd like to see a step by step video to rebuild one of these engines. Love your videos man and thank you regardless for all of your help with your channel
I can change my own oil and brakes and stuff but I'm not in Any way a mechanic so a idiot proof guide would be greatly appreciated for me. If I didn't live in Canada I would just take my truck to you directly to fix or if anyone on here has any suggestions on where to find such information I'd love you forever
he does have the complete walk through on the ticking issues and i understand on doing it yourself because of cost issues,i bought parts one at a time over e few months until i had what i needed to start and just kept watching videos and taking notes in between,a lot of patience and just do it,take pictures while you do it take notes of what you did and how,i layed out a large piece of cardboard,labeled and arranged stuff as it came off and in order
Been watching a lot of this guys videos for months now sploosh mcgoosh. In sort of same boat. Bought 09 with 5.4 Triton for price and having kids. I'm not a mechanic and one thing to watch for is this motor. Good or junk depending on who you ask but comes down to how many tools you need to fix the problem ($$). Also downtime. Can you get to work/school/etc. without the vehicle and not miss any work hours? He is a seasoned mechanic. A lot of us are not (why i watch these videos). Noticed that ford likes to require specialty tools sometimes to do repairs. Again, not many have the ten grand in automotive tools to do all this. Different then my 351 Windsor (kickass motor btw) on my 94 or 351 modified on 80 Bronco. Got 360 a month in payments and bad cam phasers that are beyond me. Newberg, OR Ford dealership said new crate motor cheapest way to go or your chasing failed parts all the time. Car payment or repairs?...I got 5.4 triton with vvt. I get both. VVT here to stay (thanks DEQ) so could be worth setting up.. Or get rid of it for something that doesn't take NASA to work on it
There is no point in rebuilding these engines. Even the replacement parts fail. Even rebuilt engines for $3,500.00 and crate engines fail. It is design failures. I would like to see a video for installing an older rebuilt 2 valve engine instead. My 07 F150 body is prefect just the drummer under the hood is the problem.
The aftermarket somehow many rebuild kits for the three valve motor I don't think, most people go to powertrain products and get one remanufactured for like $3,500 so if the truck cheap it would be worth it if the transmission and transfer case
thanks brian, you seem to have all the faults of these engines ironed out. I see this truck has the dreaded cold air intake/ k&n air filter with the maf sensor killing oil on it. bad bad bad.
So I left you a message on one of your other videos to but this one was a lot more informative to my target information. At least I think it is is there anything I could do before tearing my truck open to know if that's what is making the problem I have for sure because I have a 4.6 L on a 2000 Expedition and it's coming from the left side of the engine and it sounds like it's coming from one of the wheels the belts are on but it's a ticking sound some guy just actually told me hey I think your lifters are going bad. If you don't want to answer my questions just ignore me and I will get the hint but you seem like the most knowledgeable out of all the videos I've watched so far on TH-cam so I'd appreciate some advice but if you're too busy keep up the videos man they're very very good videos and very informative I appreciate you putting them out there for everybody
Hi really enjoy your videos very informative I have a 06 f 150 I need help with while driving in the highway my oil pressure gauge dropped and engine rattled and stopped I had two mechanic looked at it they said I need to change engine any thoughts it’s a 5.4 3 valve
Great, my bought new 50 miles away from started making that noise. Complained twice to them, they said that was normal. Now 14 years later with only 76,700 miles on it, peeps think it's a diesel at first. Sure glad I paid 40g for it. Love the truck, but way to many issues for the price I paid. Thanks for the video.
Hey man thanks for all the great detailed videos you put out there , I've watch and upgraded my f150 so that it would give me the best preforming truck on the road for its age . Aloha
tearing apart my 2006 F-150 4.6L Romeo 300,000 miles with a ticking that developed while traveling to Montana (sounds like a lash adjuster, everything in the engine is stock). I know you usually reference the 3v motors, I'm assuming the same characteristics apply to the followers, and adjusters on the 2v. Because of being out of state, and far from shops I was forced to just cringe and drive, the noise stayed the same and after all was said and done it had 1,200 miles put on it in 6 days. I am kind of assuming that since the oil pressure remained 30-40psi, and it didn't fly apart that my bottom end is still in tact. Made it back to Washington and I will start the upper VT teardown tonight, and I am going to do the chains, guides, melling pump, and tensioners also (like i mentioned 300K and all original). Hopefully I am on the right path of action, you are a stellar tech, and I enjoy your channel immensely. If you are curious I can reply back with what I find. Thanks again!! ~ Jeremy
Love the video and great detail, I've seen all the videos for the 3V noticed you talk about the lash adjusters, is there any way you can show or explain how to remove them since that can be bad as well causing the noice (tick tick tick) thanks man
You are amazing! Very detailed, Thanks for sharing. I'm building a house in my backyard so you can move in, just take care of my 2006 Lincoln Mark LT. :-)
FordTechMakuloco - Any thoughts on if bad hydraulic lash adjusters and/or bad rocker arms might be the cause of the "typewriter tick" on the F-150 and Mustang Coyotes ?
Is there a way to tell which lash adjusters are bad without removing anything? Like having base circle and checking for extra play on the adjuster side?
I have a 1992 Ford escort with a 1.9 motor and it's a manual and every time I drive it loses power like it bogs down or when I first started the idle drops solo with a stall out on itself try to fix some things can't fix it need some help in the right direction
Hey I got one for ya! Just spent 10k and dropped a reman 5.4 3v in my f150 with a new flex plate and TC. Well something is knocking and at first I thought it might have been a manifold leak. Had them checked and nothing. Was told it was normal timing chain noise which I know from your videos IS NOT normal..... But where it sounds like it's coming from to me is around the bell housing area and where the new TC was installed. I don't hear the rattle near as much at the front of the motor as I do the rear between it and the trans somewhere. I just have a feeling im going to keep bringing my truck back over and over again just to be told it's normal and have to spend more money on top the 10k doing so. It really does sound like it's in the bell housing. I tried to scope ot with a screwdriver but haven't quite pin pointed the noise. Just the general location. Hoping it's not resonating from somewhere else. I still have yet to check my injectors and possibly starter. When I pulled the inspection plug to the TC the teeth looked fine as far as I can tell. Maybe my cats? They didn't make much sound when I scoped them. Like I said it also has a new flex plate. I'm at a loss here. Edit.... The reman also came with sprockets instead of phasers and a module to flash my computer with so it can't be due to cam phaser noise because it doesn't have any anymore. They're essentially what a lockout kit would accomplish.
Hoping for a clarification on priming the new lash adjusters. I've been soaking in oil and pushing the plungers in every way i can think of for a week, and half my new lash adjusters still feel spongy and can be depressed more than the known good in this video. It feels like air is trapped in the lash adjuster. Are these new parts bad, or will they bleed down all the way once running in the engine? Also thanks so much for all your great videos, there is no way my truck would still be running without them!
Have you ever seen a collapsing lash adjuster causing a misfire on start up with no other sign of issue other that a check engine light? Doesn’t miss long enough to feel it. Could be cold or hot. Happens every 10 starts or so. Full timing job was done with all Motorcraft parts about 20k ago. New injector on the mentioned cylinder. All new OEM plugs and coils also. No valve train noise noted. Runs perfect other that the intermittent CEL.
My 06 expedition has 220k and going.. chased a failing MSD coil and back in business. Changed plugs once, and injectors twice, 1 alternator, 3 batteries. If the truck gives up I'm puttin that 5.4 in a 56 F100.
Not sure if you're still answering questions on this video but my 04 F150 has a ticking / knocking sound most days on startup. It's pretty loud. It goes away after warming up but will return if I shut the engine off for a few minutes and then restart it. I have read that it could be a lifter and that it could also be a manifold crack or warp. What's the least intrusive way to determine which it is? BTW - this channel has been great in helping me diagnose a lot of problems with my truck. Subscribed.
Thank you so much I am currently rebuilding top of the vehicle where heads and those lifters I bought it with spun sprocket ended up going to junk yard find a good one waiting to find out plus I drove it before tear apart and yes I have failed lifters wow I didn't know how to determine now I know thank you so much;)
Just bought a 2010 f150 with a 4.6l 3v, 6 speed, XLT. 146k on the clock. Weirdest ticking noise ever. It seems to only happen when warmed up, in drive, and just above idle (like just enough gas to maintain speed at like 30 mph). It's super quiet, like if I roll down the windows the wind drowns out the noise, if I rev the engine to 2 RPMs, can't barely hear it. Sound goes completely away when in park & when you take your foot off the gas while driving, sound instantly disappears... I've sat in the truck from the drivers and passengers side, and it seems to be on the driver's side more so then the passengers. The tick is very low tho, but it's deff there when I drive around for the day, I can hear it and it is driving me nuts. Had a mechanic look at it and he didnt hear it at all...
Nice vid. I want a new F250, but a local used truck dealer told me he does not sell Ford trucks newer than 2017 because they have noisy engines. Does that make sense? Thanks!
Can you make a video showing where the vacuum lines from to and from on this engine. I got in a rush replacing my intake manifold and I think I may have crossed lines. Thanks
Hi. I have a 2004 F150 Supercrew w/5.4. I will be replacing these parts. I will be ordering the parts from your link. Just wanted to make sure, will the complete lash adjuster & followers kit work for the 2004. Thank you & have a great day.
Hi, have a question....just bought a 2008 expedition with 165k on it......runs and drives excellent but on first start up after truck sits for a while it ticks for maybe 15 secs then stops....I've noticed if the truck sits it makes the noise....if I drive it then shut it off and come out half hr later it dosent do it....im guessing maybe the oil is draining ??
Is this the only way to inspect these is to have them out? Or can you tell if they have failed with them still in the valve train other than just looking at the cam lobes?
I had a 2004 STX 4X4 F150 with 4.6L for 13 years until the transmission blew. I just picked up a 2015 F250 with 6.2L gas. Any comments, recommendations, or things to worry about? So far, it's pulling our camper great. The camper is a 28' travel trailer. dry weight is 6200lbs.
Great Videos and instruction. My wife's Expedition had a big clunk and stopped running the other day. Still not exactly sure what happened but I do know a rocker arm broke and the valve next to it has a bent stem. I don't see any other damage so I don't know if the timing skipped or the arm just flat out broke. I would think that if the timing chain jumped all the valves on that side of the motor would have damage but in this case just one cylinder had the issue. I guess the next step is to pull the head and see if the piston is damaged? 2009 5.4 3 valve with 125K by the way.
Brian - Another awesome video Bruddah!! Would I be correct in thinking that these tests and checks in your video apply equally as well to the 4.6L 3V motors? I have the 4.6l 3v motor in my 2009 F150.
These are the updated Parts:
Ford Racing Full Kit-
amzn.to/2r85QBs
Roller Followers (all model years)
amzn.to/2r9zabs
Lash Adjusters (2004)
amzn.to/2r83WAO
Lash Adjusters (2005-2014)
amzn.to/2pFUDYw 5.4L 3v Repair Playlist-
th-cam.com/play/PLnkaHoqfNwiFPohL7Hf9CAv-veTUzxQga.html
FordTechMakuloco. you are a wizard...love your videos..thanks..
FordTechMakuloco will this help the ticking on my ford fusion?
I have a 2000 Expedition Eddie Bauer Edition with the 5.4 and has over 209,000 miles on it. Did these have the same issue as the newer ones? Thanks
I have that triton 2004 5.4 3V, should I just do the cam phasers, timing chain and these all together, I have a slight ticking on & off, I have only used mobile 1; 5W-30...bought this brand new 170K miles. I love this truck & your vids are very useful thx👍
FordTechMakuloco l like yours videos they are the best, l have a concern about the PCV valve on 5.4 Triton engines if you have some information about it..thanks a lot !
I'm a full time tech going on 20+ years and I can count on 1 hand the number of techs if let fix my own vehicles and this guy is the real deal, great job on the videos, everything you are showing is correct, great job!
No kidding.
Where is he located I'm intrested in him working on my navigator..
@caliboyz 831 did you find out where his shop is located?
100% truth. 👍
Absolutely my favorite channel for Ford education. Thanks for all the content you provide. Your 5.4L timing chain series made me decide to pay my mech to do it, instead of me wasting an entire week's vacation on it. lol... Thanks!
Some people make more using their time else where and possibly avoid a disaster waiting to happen, these things should be left to those people who have teeth for it lol
YOUR MY GO TO GUY FOR MY 2004 F150 5.4L ENGINE
THANK YOU FOR BEING AN EXCELLENT TEACHER ON ALL LEVELS
Thank you for making these videos. I bought a 05 F250 from my work for $1k. When I first started it up it sounded like a diesel... I knew this was not got. I didn't know anything about the triton 5.4l, but because of your videos I've learned a bunch. My company took the truck out of service because it died in an intersection while towing. I changed the oil, replaced spark plugs and switched to 5w30. Runs much better. Next thing is the rocker arms.
One of the best jobs of sharing information that I have seen
awesome vids brian,after letting my wife know how much that damn ticking noise just got the best of me every time i stopped at a light, did the job myself on my 2008 f250 4x4 super duty 5.4 triton at 120,400 miles after watching your complete walkthrough series and taking key notes,Cloyes timing kit-phasers from Freedom racing-Melling m360 oil pump which now holds a constant pressure at idle or across the rpm range-Ford vct's(updated version)BWD crank sensor since i was already there and would be a pain to do later-Ford lash adjusters, all 24,all Felpro gaskets,new serpentine belt and i always use the Motorcraft oil filter,have taken a few 5 hour trips to Va and back since and runs better than ever,my wife says thanks,she doesnt have to hear the ''F'' word at every idle.
How much did all of the parts cost?
@@remaxhudson a small fortune
My 2007 navigator was ticking and 2 of my spark plugs ended up being loose. Thanks to this man here I’ve fixed this prone to breaking engine all by myself and I have no mechanical experience whatsoever. This man knows his stuff. And evidently I got lucky that my plugs were loose instead of being seized and stuck considering I have a 3 valve
Good vids you have, thanks for the info. I had a 2008 F150 FX4, supercrew, for work. My truck had over 700,000 + KM, when I sold it. No problems at all with engine, never had to work on the brakes. Only the upper ball joints had to replace. I am a FORD man my whole life, started on the farm. All my trucks have had over 700,000+ KM when I sold them. Currently my 2014 5.0 L, has just over 330,000 +KM, running good.
I have an 06 with a 4.6L that has 330,00+ and a 2000 5.4L with 240,000+, both purr like kittens.
I have a 2008 f 150, I'm starting to hear a clicking/rattling noise, very slight, I'm very new to mechanical stuff but I've learned a lot from your channel. You're a godsend, keep up thr good work and great videos.
Get rid of it!
@@MrTruckerf I love it though
Thanks for the good video. I went ahead and took out the camshaft on my pax side to inspect the lifters and rocker arms because I had a loud knocking noise at all rpms all the time. (Before I did this i changed the tensioners, solenoids, phasers, guides and still a loud knocking) Come to find that my rocker arm seized up completely. The bearing didn't just drop. It dropped and it locked up (a little cocked too). For info purposes it was the last intake valve on the pax side for #4 cylinder. Now I have no more knocking. Happy camper here.
Brian, even after 7 years I enjoy your videos like it was the first time I saw it !
Great Job !
Thanks for bringing such great info about pattern failures and part number revisions to the public. Very few youtubers provide this kind of inside info.
Your videos saved me so much time and your tips are top notch.
Wanna send a serious thank you.
Your the man.
This was throughly helpful. Thank you for breaking it down. I'm getting ready to fix this "knocking" issue with my dad and wanted to do my research before teaming up with him and taking my Expedition apart again. (Not for the same issue). This is subscribe worthy.
Having same issue and I am going to have a helper too. This is my first f150 with this motor. I bought it with 105k miles and it was a maintained government vehicle. 112k miles on it now and it's getting worse! I would get a Chevy, that's what I'm going back to. They don't make trucks with these stupid motors with phasers and extra parts to help with gas. Just a simple pushrod engine that gets the same gas milage without all that messy useless time adjusting system. Good luck!
Your videos are simply awesome. Very thorough, not too much, not too little. My son's 2010 F-150 has a few of the issues you've detailed (bad phaser, ticking valvetrain) and we'll be tearing into it with confidence when the weather breaks.
My 2008 Expedition has 150k+ miles on it. After seing your videos I now understand my 5.4 3 valve much better. I do not have a knocking but have noticed a bit of a rough idle. I am taking it in to get the valvr covers pulled and the cams inspected. Knowledge is power and a good way to keep the purse strings loosened up. Thanks.
My 2007 expedition just started making that noise the other day and I'm glad I found this thanks
Thanks, after watching this video I recognized I was having the same issue with my 2008 F250. I had my local shop check it out and he was not sure what the issue was. I took it to the local Ford dealer and they found 2 rollers were shot and the cam was damaged. They replaced all the rollers, lash adjusters and put in a new cam. Fortunately I had a Ford extended warranty that covered all of it but $100. My truck has about 110000 miles on it. They say everything looks good. If I had not seen your video and been alerted to the issue, I most likely would have ignored the tapping until the motor blew. Thanks :-)
Fixed my problem @ 246k mile; my 07 Navigator runs so quiet again! Thank you for your videos.
Great info. I can tell you and everyone else reading this, the info presented here will save your ass if you own a Daimler Chrysler OHC engine, the 3.7 and 4.7. They will fail in the exact same way, in fact they use the exact same lash adjuster as the Ford engines up until 08 when they changed them, they changed the followers in 05. Those engines will give the same symptoms as well, light ticking under the valve/cam cover and are also well known for kicking out the follower when the lash adjuster bleeds down during shut down. Start it up and out goes follower, if you're lucky it won't take out the head casting pedestal holding the lash adjuster. EDIT, I see the lash adjusters look like the revised ones Mopar used. The old ones had the oil feed hole in the side lower, the entirety of it was in the reduced OD in the middle of the adjuster body.
I don't think I'll ever own another Ford, but for some reason I can't stop watching your old videos, ha ha. Well done.
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I recently did the full timing job on my 2007 Expy. Although all the followers & lash adjusters were good I replaced them anyway . I figured at nearly 200,000 miles it was good insurance to do so. Great video!
How much was the job in total if u dont mind me asking , bout to do it to my 250
@@jeffdavis3011 1200 easily.
*Its a shame the 5.4 3 valve is really getting a bad rap of a motor just top end and phasers issues with plenty of warning signs, did my spark plugs with no issues also not that hard of a fix if you're mechanically inclined with your guidance the best procedure instructions on TH-cam.*
Thanks for posting another good video to prevent the Ford dealerships from stealing the hard earned money from people's pocket. I really wish you would do a video on how to replace the timing chains and plastic guide tensioners on a 4.0 SOHC.
Engine comes out to do the timing chains with the 4.0 Fords put on an engine stand.There is a rear one too and it is a PITA to do with it in the vehicle.
Yeah, I already know it. It's the most horrible design that any auto manufacturer has ever come out with. I'm glad they finally fixed it in 2004.5 on the Ford Ranger.
GM is this way too and this is with the Chevy Traverse,Buick Enclave,GMC Acadia and the Saturn version with the well known POS 3.6 engine.Engine comes out from the bottom to change timing chains
It took me a while to realize this is my truck, haha but seriously Brian does an awesome job, I have had no problems since having this done, very affordable compared to other mechanics or dealership!
John Wyskochil where his shop at?
Great tips, Brian. Hydraulic lash adjusters and rocker arms are definitely on the checklist during an engine teardown/timing job. I still want to hear that truck run! Would the failed rocker arms show up on a manual compression test?
I would think not because it's failing open; not failing closed. Compression should still hold unless damaged valve seats. If I'm wrong.... School me please. I don't want to walk around with false ideas. Lol
Thank you for the highly useful information! I'm in the process of changing my 5.4 2V Lightning lash adjusters and this helps me a lot.
Good shit. Very informative. I bought a used 07 motor with 19,000 miles and put that in. Was alot of work but sounded better than the 04 did .Ford wouldnt stand by my 04 because i did my own oil changes
Nice video. I like your approach you take in your videos. It's almost like the viewers are attending a mechanic's workshop or class. I like the examples you present here...they really give someone a good idea of what is really going on as a result of failed components. If you're ever planning on coming to Virginia on a fix-it tour, let me know! I have a 2004 F-150 I'd like you to take a look at. Cheers!
After researching this and being personally involved with this engine. My findings agree with those of Makuloco,.
The cause of the failure will always be discovered to be the result of low oil pressure. There are two major underlying causes which contribute to the 5.4 3V engine issues
1) The oil pressure is measured by an electronic switch, which does not indicate actual engine oil pressure.
2) The Cam chain tensioners are where the engine starts to loose oil pressure as their gaskets fail. The failure is not an immediate loss of pressure but a gradual loss over time, which is why that loss in pressure creates significant damage in the upper valve train area, specifically on the RH or Passengers side of the engine.
Therefore improvement would be to move to a mechanical oil pressure gage, and to replace all of the upper components related to engine timing and all of the components on the RH (Passenger) cylinder head when reacting to what manifests itself as a continual ticking noise. Even though some of those components on the RH cylinder head might appear acceptable, their loss of oil pressure will cause excessive wear and not replacing them while inside the engine will simply require their replacement within a few thousand miles. ..
I have an 03 Triton that I'm babying along with over 200K miles. I'll have to make my way over to Chicago to have you look mine over- it's making the usual engine noises, but if you listen closer you can hear the cam and the rocker/cam followers tapping quietly away. Planning on doing an upper engine inspect/repair/seal in the next year or so. Like I said, I should bring it over (I live in Iowa) and have you do a tune up and listen to it, haha.
Great video. Damn I wish you were my neighbour, or better yet, my Son. 👍
Ian Hillman HEY... BACK THE TRUCK UP... I CALLED DIBS A LONG LONG TIME AGO!! 😂😎
I want to thank you for your Excellent videos! Your in depth, informative, "average joe" productions have served me well, as I own a 04 F150 Lariat 5.4L. Your HD productions have helped me in ways I can't fully list. Again, thank you very much!!
Is there any way to replace lash adjusters without removing the cam? Loosen?
I looked at a ford f150 once, it had the 5.4 3. Valve triton, looked like a fair price. I went home and got on you tube. Did some research, needless to say I did not buy the truck. Lol....
I'm always applying the great information to other makes. Thanks for posting these in depth engine analytics.
Great tips Brian!!!!! Looks like you got the 5.4 covered from top to bottom.
I have a what would you do question... Purchase an '04 F150 w/ 167K miles for $5800 and it just started tapping or
'06 F150 w/ 126K miles for $9K. Take into account, you only have basic diy skills not the master tech you are.
Great content and I've learned a lot watching you the past month since I started looking at Ford trucks!
Thanks for your time.
I would not buy a 2004-2010 F150 5.4L, engine is too finicky; best to buy the 2011-2017 F150 types with 5.0 and 6 gear auto xmission
Excellent video man i was looking all over an explanation on how to tell if the lash adjuster is good or bad and nothing now two months later i found this vid thank you for the info great video
Hey dude. Appreciate all the help! I recently performed a timing swap and a full follower/lash adjuster replacement. What I found when i got inside was all the followers checked out perfectly fine. However, all but two of the lash adjusters had approximately 1/4” slop. I could lifter the plunger (not depress it) about 1/4”. Seems weird after what you showed on your videos. Problem, after reassembly I have a temporary tapping noise that is worse than before but it gets quiet after about 30 seconds. ?!?!?! seems like the lash adjusters are not holding pressure when the the engine has set for a bit. An immediate restart after it has been running yields no tapping. The parts I used were sold as a Ford factory kit but… I will say the truck had not been maintained very well and it pretty varnished up inside. Is there and oil additive that I could use in case crap got inside the new adjusters and help clean them maybe?? Any help is greatly appreciated. Getting ready to retire and was hope to geet another 175000 out of the truck.
Great freakin videos! I can sit and watch these for hours.
Great information. I'd never tear into my own this deep, but if I had this issue, I'd know what to expect at the repair shop. Thanx for posting.
yea bud great job on the video you deff are the real deal and great teacher. id let you work on my truck or vehicle any day.
I'm likely about to go in and change the VCT solinoids on my 4.6 so I'll definitely be checking these parts while im in there.
Great videos! You're knowledge on this engine is so helpful.
Thank you FordTech for the information !!!
Hey would you please please please do a full tear down/ rebuild tutorial video on the 5.4 for poor people like me who's 07 expedition is dying but have no money to pay someone to do it for them. I got the truck from a friend for cheap and my wife is due any day now but I need my truck fixed but just can't afford it but I understand when you explain what your doing and actually trust you for a guide. Everyone please like this comment to get him to see it and you'd like to see a step by step video to rebuild one of these engines. Love your videos man and thank you regardless for all of your help with your channel
I can change my own oil and brakes and stuff but I'm not in Any way a mechanic so a idiot proof guide would be greatly appreciated for me. If I didn't live in Canada I would just take my truck to you directly to fix or if anyone on here has any suggestions on where to find such information I'd love you forever
he does have the complete walk through on the ticking issues and i understand on doing it yourself because of cost issues,i bought parts one at a time over e few months until i had what i needed to start and just kept watching videos and taking notes in between,a lot of patience and just do it,take pictures while you do it take notes of what you did and how,i layed out a large piece of cardboard,labeled and arranged stuff as it came off and in order
Been watching a lot of this guys videos for months now sploosh mcgoosh. In sort of same boat. Bought 09 with 5.4 Triton for price and having kids. I'm not a mechanic and one thing to watch for is this motor. Good or junk depending on who you ask but comes down to how many tools you need to fix the problem ($$). Also downtime. Can you get to work/school/etc. without the vehicle and not miss any work hours? He is a seasoned mechanic. A lot of us are not (why i watch these videos). Noticed that ford likes to require specialty tools sometimes to do repairs. Again, not many have the ten grand in automotive tools to do all this. Different then my 351 Windsor (kickass motor btw) on my 94 or 351 modified on 80 Bronco. Got 360 a month in payments and bad cam phasers that are beyond me. Newberg, OR Ford dealership said new crate motor cheapest way to go or your chasing failed parts all the time. Car payment or repairs?...I got 5.4 triton with vvt. I get both. VVT here to stay (thanks DEQ) so could be worth setting up.. Or get rid of it for something that doesn't take NASA to work on it
There is no point in rebuilding these engines. Even the replacement parts fail. Even rebuilt engines for $3,500.00 and crate engines fail. It is design failures. I would like to see a video for installing an older rebuilt 2 valve engine instead. My 07 F150 body is prefect just the drummer under the hood is the problem.
The aftermarket somehow many rebuild kits for the three valve motor I don't think, most people go to powertrain products and get one remanufactured for like $3,500 so if the truck cheap it would be worth it if the transmission and transfer case
You are an asset, my good man. I appreciate your videos.
thanks brian, you seem to have all the faults of these engines ironed out. I see this truck has the dreaded cold air intake/ k&n air filter with the maf sensor killing oil on it. bad bad bad.
So I left you a message on one of your other videos to but this one was a lot more informative to my target information. At least I think it is is there anything I could do before tearing my truck open to know if that's what is making the problem I have for sure because I have a 4.6 L on a 2000 Expedition and it's coming from the left side of the engine and it sounds like it's coming from one of the wheels the belts are on but it's a ticking sound some guy just actually told me hey I think your lifters are going bad. If you don't want to answer my questions just ignore me and I will get the hint but you seem like the most knowledgeable out of all the videos I've watched so far on TH-cam so I'd appreciate some advice but if you're too busy keep up the videos man they're very very good videos and very informative I appreciate you putting them out there for everybody
Hi really enjoy your videos very informative I have a 06 f 150 I need help with while driving in the highway my oil pressure gauge dropped and engine rattled and stopped I had two mechanic looked at it they said I need to change engine any thoughts it’s a 5.4 3 valve
Great, my bought new 50 miles away from started making that noise. Complained twice to them, they said that was normal. Now 14 years later with only 76,700 miles on it, peeps think it's a diesel at first. Sure glad I paid 40g for it. Love the truck, but way to many issues for the price I paid. Thanks for the video.
Hey man thanks for all the great detailed videos you put out there , I've watch and upgraded my f150 so that it would give me the best preforming truck on the road for its age . Aloha
Great video. your videos have helped me solve a lot of my trucks engine problems and save me a ton of money
tearing apart my 2006 F-150 4.6L Romeo 300,000 miles with a ticking that developed while traveling to Montana (sounds like a lash adjuster, everything in the engine is stock). I know you usually reference the 3v motors, I'm assuming the same characteristics apply to the followers, and adjusters on the 2v. Because of being out of state, and far from shops I was forced to just cringe and drive, the noise stayed the same and after all was said and done it had 1,200 miles put on it in 6 days. I am kind of assuming that since the oil pressure remained 30-40psi, and it didn't fly apart that my bottom end is still in tact. Made it back to Washington and I will start the upper VT teardown tonight, and I am going to do the chains, guides, melling pump, and tensioners also (like i mentioned 300K and all original). Hopefully I am on the right path of action, you are a stellar tech, and I enjoy your channel immensely. If you are curious I can reply back with what I find. Thanks again!! ~ Jeremy
Excellent Demo...Greetings from India..
Does the bad roller follower cause the engine to shake? Can it cause a P0346 code?
i was getting the ticking sound after i shut off the engine on right side valve cover. ill take a look at these, thank you!
I have a Ford 250 and I was thinking it was the lifters, never knew these could cause that still learning
Ticking like a time bomb. Just a matter of when.
Thanks for your time!
Love the video and great detail, I've seen all the videos for the 3V noticed you talk about the lash adjusters, is there any way you can show or explain how to remove them since that can be bad as well causing the noice (tick tick tick) thanks man
Great video! Should the lifters still not collapse even if the engine has been sitting for a month or a couple years?
You are amazing! Very detailed, Thanks for sharing. I'm building a house in my backyard so you can move in, just take care of my 2006 Lincoln Mark LT. :-)
FordTechMakuloco - Any thoughts on if bad hydraulic lash adjusters and/or bad rocker arms might be the cause of the "typewriter tick" on the F-150 and Mustang Coyotes ?
Is there a way to tell which lash adjusters are bad without removing anything? Like having base circle and checking for extra play on the adjuster side?
I have a 1992 Ford escort with a 1.9 motor and it's a manual and every time I drive it loses power like it bogs down or when I first started the idle drops solo with a stall out on itself try to fix some things can't fix it need some help in the right direction
Hey I got one for ya! Just spent 10k and dropped a reman 5.4 3v in my f150 with a new flex plate and TC. Well something is knocking and at first I thought it might have been a manifold leak. Had them checked and nothing. Was told it was normal timing chain noise which I know from your videos IS NOT normal..... But where it sounds like it's coming from to me is around the bell housing area and where the new TC was installed. I don't hear the rattle near as much at the front of the motor as I do the rear between it and the trans somewhere. I just have a feeling im going to keep bringing my truck back over and over again just to be told it's normal and have to spend more money on top the 10k doing so. It really does sound like it's in the bell housing. I tried to scope ot with a screwdriver but haven't quite pin pointed the noise. Just the general location. Hoping it's not resonating from somewhere else. I still have yet to check my injectors and possibly starter. When I pulled the inspection plug to the TC the teeth looked fine as far as I can tell. Maybe my cats? They didn't make much sound when I scoped them. Like I said it also has a new flex plate. I'm at a loss here.
Edit.... The reman also came with sprockets instead of phasers and a module to flash my computer with so it can't be due to cam phaser noise because it doesn't have any anymore. They're essentially what a lockout kit would accomplish.
Wow! What a great video! Very educating. Wish my dad had TH-cam during his time, I am lucky!
your the best ford video. most informative. thanks.
How much would you charge to replace a set with the kit you mentioned in the pinned comment? What is timing to do the job?
Great job with your experience
Hoping for a clarification on priming the new lash adjusters. I've been soaking in oil and pushing the plungers in every way i can think of for a week, and half my new lash adjusters still feel spongy and can be depressed more than the known good in this video. It feels like air is trapped in the lash adjuster. Are these new parts bad, or will they bleed down all the way once running in the engine?
Also thanks so much for all your great videos, there is no way my truck would still be running without them!
If a furd ain’t tickin it ain’t running right lol 😂
Have you ever seen a collapsing lash adjuster causing a misfire on start up with no other sign of issue other that a check engine light? Doesn’t miss long enough to feel it. Could be cold or hot. Happens every 10 starts or so. Full timing job was done with all Motorcraft parts about 20k ago. New injector on the mentioned cylinder. All new OEM plugs and coils also. No valve train noise noted. Runs perfect other that the intermittent CEL.
My 06 expedition has 220k and going.. chased a failing MSD coil and back in business. Changed plugs once, and injectors twice, 1 alternator, 3 batteries.
If the truck gives up I'm puttin that 5.4 in a 56 F100.
Not sure if you're still answering questions on this video but my 04 F150 has a ticking / knocking sound most days on startup. It's pretty loud. It goes away after warming up but will return if I shut the engine off for a few minutes and then restart it. I have read that it could be a lifter and that it could also be a manifold crack or warp. What's the least intrusive way to determine which it is? BTW - this channel has been great in helping me diagnose a lot of problems with my truck. Subscribed.
Hi from Chula Vista CA thanks mate . Happy New year
Everytime I watch this I lmao at his comment,"that Ford guys n idiot," that had me rolling. Good job.
Thank you so much I am currently rebuilding top of the vehicle where heads and those lifters
I bought it with spun sprocket ended up going to junk yard find a good one waiting to find out plus I drove it before tear apart and yes I have failed lifters wow I didn't know how to determine now I know thank you so much;)
Just bought a 2010 f150 with a 4.6l 3v, 6 speed, XLT. 146k on the clock. Weirdest ticking noise ever. It seems to only happen when warmed up, in drive, and just above idle (like just enough gas to maintain speed at like 30 mph). It's super quiet, like if I roll down the windows the wind drowns out the noise, if I rev the engine to 2 RPMs, can't barely hear it.
Sound goes completely away when in park & when you take your foot off the gas while driving, sound instantly disappears... I've sat in the truck from the drivers and passengers side, and it seems to be on the driver's side more so then the passengers.
The tick is very low tho, but it's deff there when I drive around for the day, I can hear it and it is driving me nuts. Had a mechanic look at it and he didnt hear it at all...
Nice vid. I want a new F250, but a local used truck dealer told me he does not sell Ford trucks newer than 2017 because they have noisy engines. Does that make sense? Thanks!
Excellent video! Thank you for sharing
I have a 2008 F-150 with the 5.4L and I'm experiencing similar knocking sounds and loss of power. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks
Can you make a video showing where the vacuum lines from to and from on this engine. I got in a rush replacing my intake manifold and I think I may have crossed lines. Thanks
Hi. I have a 2004 F150 Supercrew w/5.4. I will be replacing these parts. I will be ordering the parts from your link. Just wanted to make sure, will the complete lash adjuster & followers kit work for the 2004. Thank you & have a great day.
I enjoy watching your videos bro great job .
Hi, have a question....just bought a 2008 expedition with 165k on it......runs and drives excellent but on first start up after truck sits for a while it ticks for maybe 15 secs then stops....I've noticed if the truck sits it makes the noise....if I drive it then shut it off and come out half hr later it dosent do it....im guessing maybe the oil is draining ??
Great videos my friend!!! Always professional !👍🏻
What's your opinion on the lash adjusters and followers on the coyote engine. Thanks for the great videos.
Is this the only way to inspect these is to have them out? Or can you tell if they have failed with them still in the valve train other than just looking at the cam lobes?
I had a 2004 STX 4X4 F150 with 4.6L for 13 years until the transmission blew. I just picked up a 2015 F250 with 6.2L gas. Any comments, recommendations, or things to worry about? So far, it's pulling our camper great. The camper is a 28' travel trailer. dry weight is 6200lbs.
dude i love your videos you are awesome !!! i have learned so much since i have stumbled upon your channel .... thank you !
Thanks!
Great work Brian
Do you have a video of how to change all the lifters?
Great Videos and instruction. My wife's Expedition had a big clunk and stopped running the other day. Still not exactly sure what happened but I do know a rocker arm broke and the valve next to it has a bent stem. I don't see any other damage so I don't know if the timing skipped or the arm just flat out broke. I would think that if the timing chain jumped all the valves on that side of the motor would have damage but in this case just one cylinder had the issue. I guess the next step is to pull the head and see if the piston is damaged? 2009 5.4 3 valve with 125K by the way.
Brian - Another awesome video Bruddah!!
Would I be correct in thinking that these tests and checks in your video apply equally as well to the 4.6L 3V motors?
I have the 4.6l 3v motor in my 2009 F150.
You are the Man
Hi I had my timing chain and cam phasers done but did not do these do you have to take the cam out to remove these thank you love your videos
Thanks for your videos they are very helpful