WHY BUY CHINESE? This European small SUV is EXCELLENT VALUE! Skoda Kamiq 2025 review

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  • @stephenwhitworth7701
    @stephenwhitworth7701 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks Matt, a thorough and valuable review. I have a friend that purchased a Kamiq Monte Carlo a few months back and to be honest I drove it soon after and was amazed at just how comfortable and enjoyable it was to punt around. The 1.5 VW based engine is a gem, always on call, quiet but efficient. Skoda impress with the day-to-day use, everyone should put one on their test and use it as a benchmark to compare their other list, my bet would be more will buy the Kamiq. No I don't work for Skoda, but would be proud to say if I did.

  • @adrianbetts3242
    @adrianbetts3242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Skodas are great cars. I got myself a Fabia back in April, absolutely love it and for under $40K drive away, the kit you get (you can only get the Monte Carlo variant in Aus) is an extremely good value proposition.

  • @jeoffosker1768
    @jeoffosker1768 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great informative video - as usual. 😁

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks mate!

  • @garrypointer
    @garrypointer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very Good all round package Matt ,great economy even thou no Hybrid .luve youf Honest review Natt ty .😂😂

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks mate!

  • @c.s2001
    @c.s2001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Matt, your review is much much better than the Chasing Cars review which came out at the same time. Congratulations.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Thanks mate, but don’t be hating on Zak, we had some serious weather issues that morning! I had the advantage of shooting all of my stuff myself 🙏

    • @c.s2001
      @c.s2001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@therightcar thought you’d like my comment. No need to reply.

    • @Malc664
      @Malc664 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zak is fine and quick to the point, hence his video is half the length. Matt's videos are good too.

  • @rickdias1981
    @rickdias1981 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Kamiq, Koraq and Octavia RS wagon are sooooo nice!

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m with you

    • @jefwisse1957
      @jefwisse1957 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't know that they sell a Koraq.

  • @danielmaglione6376
    @danielmaglione6376 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can you review the new facelifted VW T-Cross, interested to see how it compares to the Skoda.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I will be. Stay tuned! Launch event later this month.

  • @dennisslater888
    @dennisslater888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great little car , only thing missing in these reviews is the ongoing experience with the dealer networks of each brand …
    The Skoda dealer experience is among the worst , if any problems you are on your own and welcome to a painful journey getting satisfaction with warranty or known issues conceded.

    • @ianthomas7863
      @ianthomas7863 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have had my skoda, for eight years, had it serviced every year, and still have roadside assistance on it. My local skoda service provider, always keep me informed of any details that needs attention. My skoda dealer always goes that extra step, from day one. Have had flat battery, and tyre. And there response has been brilliant. Maybe you have a poor dealership.

  • @Coastmac2001
    @Coastmac2001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Far better vehicle. Give me a skoda over a Chinese built vehicle any day

  • @psg5772
    @psg5772 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tcross is known as a Taigun here in India. Starts at around 20k australian dollars. it comes with 1.0 TSI engine & it is a wonderful car to drive.

  • @aravindajagannatha3505
    @aravindajagannatha3505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 2020 base model Kamiq has Adaptive cruise, wireless charging, ambient lighting and electric tailgate as standard. I like the 85 tsi engine especially in sports mode.
    Edit: also 18 inch alloys

  • @shanechislett4005
    @shanechislett4005 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Matt, I own a Skoda Kamiq Signature, and it has been a great little car - except for one annoying feature- excessive road noise at highway speeds on course chipped bitumen surfaces. Do you know of any other small suv’s that are quieter in the cabin over these types of roads? I will be purchasing a new car soon, and would appreciate your advice.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks mate! If the budget allows, then the Lexus LBX or UX could be one to look at. Otherwise maybe a Subaru Crosstrek?

    • @shanechislett4005
      @shanechislett4005 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@therightcar thanks Matt

  • @RossLippiatt
    @RossLippiatt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bought 3 cyclinder in May 24, great package all round, very good handling and stearing, quick in every day city driving, good on trips. Great for my tall 193cm's and wife 155cm.
    Main hint; there is D1,2,3... for economy and S1,2,3... for better performance, shown on drivers screen.
    To switch in base level, just pull back selector when in drive and let it return to normal position for D to S and S to D. ( every time you start the car its in D1, easy).
    Loads of un-intrusive safety.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks mate. Great feedback.

    • @watchout4717
      @watchout4717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does it also solve the hesitant start as well? Thanks!

    • @RossLippiatt
      @RossLippiatt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@watchout4717with stop/start off its better and combined with sport rarely noticeable. Where I see it mostly is going up a medium hill to a T intersection/giveway sign. Its possibly a coasting economy software, so coast past the giveway sign (as its clear) and start accelerating, it hesitates 1 sec. Its only 1200kms so engine will free up and possible software update will improve it. Still really enjoying the car.

    • @RossLippiatt
      @RossLippiatt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The car starts normally and quickly from stop/start stop, in case I miss read the question

  • @mindfreeze0838
    @mindfreeze0838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great review of this car ,the only Skoda thing this car is missing is the umbrella in the door. That aside I would recommend another car instead of this,the recently released Suzuki Vitara Beat(hope a review of that comes soon). It starts at 30k,has a 4 cylinder engine that isnt a slouch,excellent fuel economy,more usuable boot(the boot in the Kamiq has that figure because it has a deep lip which sucks if you have something heavy to carry),has 7 airbags as standard and it has a torque converter transmission (a manual is available) that will last a lot longer than that DSG. The interior is not as plush looking or feeling as the Skoda but it will last longer than the Skodas.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for that! Great feedback

    • @NH-bz9jv
      @NH-bz9jv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rubbish, I know many many cab drivers who own Skodas with the dsg gearbox and most of them have passed 100k miles with the dsg performing flawlessly. One guy I know is near 200k with the original dsg box. They are bulletproof.

    • @mindfreeze0838
      @mindfreeze0838 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NH-bz9jv well thats good for them but thats a drop of purity in a cesspool. There is a reason mechanics love those gearboxes,they put their kids through private schools.

    • @NH-bz9jv
      @NH-bz9jv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mindfreeze0838 hahaha if you say so. Like I said, I know multiple people who have driven these cars for years and 100k miles with the dsg dry clutch and none of them have failed. Clearly they are very reliable then 👍

    • @mihailyanchev1905
      @mihailyanchev1905 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An acquaintance of mine who was a mechanic at VW and who recommended my current DSG car to me, had a very high opinion of them. Also believed it protected the engine compared to manual cars driven badly.

  • @NDHobart
    @NDHobart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review thanks Matt, including the advice on the engines. So, if it were your money, would you go with the T Cross or the Kamiq?

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks mate. I really like the T-Cross Style. But I think for me the Kamiq Select with the Signature Pack would be the one.

    • @NDHobart
      @NDHobart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. I will definitely test drive both but always good to hear what those in the know would choose. Cheers.

  • @pereamadeus3621
    @pereamadeus3621 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hace ya más de un año te pregunté como hiba el coche y tu respuesta terminó de convencerme y desde hace once meses disfrutamos en casa del 1.5 tsi 150cv dsg7 style y estamos encantados

  • @pbztex
    @pbztex หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is 2024, not 2025.
    And there are 3 versions.
    Essence, Selection and Monte Carlo.
    Essence is maybe not available in all the markets, but it exists. My father bought Essence this year, I bought Selection.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not in Australia, buddy. Different markets have different spec line-ups

  • @ozmoll
    @ozmoll 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good review. One correction mazda cx30 top specs for similar prices have had adaptive matrix lights since 2020

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers for pointing that out. Similar price for the underpowered dull 2.0L CX-30. Or $50k (driveaway) for the better engine.

  • @17stjames
    @17stjames 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The HRV EHV is in sale run out mode. Do you know if a new model is coming to Aus. this year or next?

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’d suggest you will see an updated model here by the end of the year. Expect some changes, maybe even a cheaper hybrid.

  • @buncha5651
    @buncha5651 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not a bad vehicle, base would be the way to go. I'm not a fan of Monte Carlo gigantic sun roof, i.e., sauna in summer, wheels not much rubber between the rim and road.

    • @NH-bz9jv
      @NH-bz9jv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Roof has an electric sun shade which makes it no hotter than a normal roof.

  • @fred3527
    @fred3527 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently started to understand why people are buying Chinese cars. I've driven many VW products in recent years but decided to try a Skoda after experiencing very poor after sales service with VW. What a huge mistake. Took delivery with 3 faults and it took about 3 months and 5 visits to resolve. The car is a 2023 model and I've already had another 2 faults needing attention. To say that Skoda's after sales service is shocking is an understatement. I now understand why Skoda's market share is so low. Purchase a Skoda at your own peril.

  • @electronicland7214
    @electronicland7214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice car as well as the t-cross
    Is there a similar car that does not use the dry DQ200?

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sadly not. The ID.2 compact EV won’t have a DSG! Haha

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is a Golf 110TSI or T-Roc 110TSI with the 8-spd auto, or the Skoda Karoq 110TSI.

    • @NH-bz9jv
      @NH-bz9jv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The dry dsg is very reliable, some cars I know have gone way past 100k miles with the gearbox working flawlessly.

  • @Richard-sl8we
    @Richard-sl8we 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Matt, have these reached dealers yet?

  • @lucassitanggang5154
    @lucassitanggang5154 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why last letter on Škoda brand Is Q? Like Kodiaq Kamiq Enyaq?

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a branding thing. E-Q models will be electric. K-Q will be ICE.

  • @johns2394
    @johns2394 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with you on this one, I'd rather a cheap Euro any day over any Chinese car. Sadly though, the way things are going with their auto industry it's likely to struggle continuing to make cars in Europe. The Chinese will dominate the auto industry and we may not have too much choice in 10 or so years anyway.

  • @Randomguru999
    @Randomguru999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Why I would buy Chinese car? Because it's cheap & well made. Car brands were just hiking prices like crazy. In China you can get a city car for 10k$. Car manufacturers got greedy to milk as much money from client as possible.
    So my next car will be Chinese!

  • @julzyin
    @julzyin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The value has gone down for there is no more power tail gate on this model.im very happy with my MY21 Kamiq.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You got a bargain. The early Kamiq models were loaded but Skoda had to get greedy in the COVID times

  • @MarinaLee-y9s
    @MarinaLee-y9s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How this Monte Carlo’s glass roof behaves itself during summer’s hot weather? There’s not much isolation from the inside 🤔

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It has a shade and is UV treated glass so it should be okay. But I can’t say for sure.

    • @mihailyanchev1905
      @mihailyanchev1905 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did a test drive at over 30 degrees on the highway and with the shade it seemed only slightly hotter than a normal roof.

  • @whatthe6532
    @whatthe6532 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice little car. Shame it’s ruined by beam rear suspension. And why put cruise controls on a fiddly hard to see stalk when VW cars have it properly sorted on the steering wheel

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s not ruined by the torsion beam. It’s actually good fun in the bends.

  • @Doug-tu3tl
    @Doug-tu3tl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you mention premium fuel?

    • @Doug-tu3tl
      @Doug-tu3tl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bought the Kona. More extras, space and looks great.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah think I did in the efficiency section.

    • @Richard-sl8we
      @Richard-sl8we 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, requires a minimum of 95 RON octane.

    • @dointheokecoke5548
      @dointheokecoke5548 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@therightcar nah ,how did you miss that

  • @agkadventuresaustralia3267
    @agkadventuresaustralia3267 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Never I will buy a Chinese car again, parts are very hard to get (GREATWALL) caused my greatwall to be written off because of 2yr wait on parts that they can't guarantee it.

    • @avghosh
      @avghosh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      this is what people don't understand...and they go only by the cheap initial price..and argue why pay extra for the more reliable japanese brands, with lower features.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That sucks. When was that?

    • @daweigo6851
      @daweigo6851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's odd, massive company in China with lots of parts.....does not make sense? Was it during covid...

    • @daweigo6851
      @daweigo6851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@avghoshgoogle vw group car know problems

    • @garylab7934
      @garylab7934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Definitely not my experience. Had an accident with mine and getting parts was no issue at all. I'll go GWM again.

  • @raazz8848
    @raazz8848 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would go mazda cx30

  • @shrinidhvyas6094
    @shrinidhvyas6094 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it the same size of vw golf?

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Smaller in length!

    • @rickb314
      @rickb314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You need Skoda Karoq for that, a half size bigger

  • @bouncingyellowskull
    @bouncingyellowskull 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good value

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I reckon!

  • @GlowingTube
    @GlowingTube 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a compelling vehicle. I'm not a fan of DSGs and in particular the dry clutch DQ200 gearbox that is in this car. Yes, it's the DQ200 that had all the issues some years back. The good news is that it has been well and truly sorted now as long as you don't crawl in traffic you should be fine. Agreed, this makes a great case not to buy a Chinese vehicle.

    • @mindfreeze0838
      @mindfreeze0838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there are two cars I would choose over this or any VAG car for that matter(not in the habit of funding private school for a mechanic's child im sorry). The first is the Suzuki Vitara Beat,its not at plush as this but will will last longer and starts at 30k. The second is the Haval Jolion,its larger than this and has a hybrid option in the same price range as this.

    • @GlowingTube
      @GlowingTube 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mindfreeze0838 if you want reliable go pay and wait and by a Toyota SUV. I’d only buy a VAG product if the cost difference is so vast as to give you a buffer in the event of issues. The Suzuki is very decent but I find it ugly, the Jolion is ok and had a big cabin but suffers from a jerky DCT, 2 way adjustable steering and a tiny boot. In the hybrid the boot is only 288 litres. It may be worth getting a 2 year old Jolion cheap and keep it for the warranty.

  • @jefwisse1957
    @jefwisse1957 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7 year warranty, my ass, wait until something gets broken.

  • @davidbernard7256
    @davidbernard7256 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it looks like MG excite!

    • @marklearner3299
      @marklearner3299 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MG probably copied it.

  • @nsw72
    @nsw72 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why buy chinese anyway? Apart from pricing.
    Too much of an unknown, especially considering the questionable QC practices (not just cars but mostly anything that is actually Chinese made). Don't mistake European/American goods made there with products designed and made from scratch in the PRC.

  • @Joe-dt4pm
    @Joe-dt4pm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s basically a VW so after the warranty runs out get rid of it, dsg gearbox are crap the car looks old not much different to the old one 0 to 100 to slow compared to the oppositions by the time you add the bigger engine and packs it’s overpriced no longer cheap so your better going for the Kona.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Two years more warranty than a VW!

    • @rickb314
      @rickb314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd buy a Skoda but not a VW, know why? Because Skoda take VW parts and build their cars better, that's why they have no issues offering a 7yr warrant to VW's 5 yrs... Skoda is a better VW and that's a fact.

    • @NH-bz9jv
      @NH-bz9jv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dsg 7 box is very reliable now, some cars I know have gone way past 100k and are working like new.

  • @EuEu-re8lv
    @EuEu-re8lv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chinese SUV's are coming for half price😂

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t seen any $17k SUVs yet….

    • @EuEu-re8lv
      @EuEu-re8lv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@therightcar Try Dacia Sandero Stepway...I know is not an SUV, but neither Kamiq...

  • @stendecstretcher5678
    @stendecstretcher5678 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mazda CX3 Maxx Sport is cheaper and better.

    • @rickb314
      @rickb314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol another aging product from Mazda I'd take a Kamiq any and every day over a CX-3, and my wife has a Mazda3 which is fine but it's a pure appliance with no driving joy whatsoever.

    • @StevenG89
      @StevenG89 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol just no.

    • @mindfreeze0838
      @mindfreeze0838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that car is way more cramped than this.

    • @StephenFogarty2023
      @StephenFogarty2023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @tonybennett638
    @tonybennett638 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its a VW 🤪

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In some ways. But it is Czech built.

    • @Richard-sl8we
      @Richard-sl8we 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@therightcar In my opinion, better quality than VW's - post Dieselgate.

    • @rickb314
      @rickb314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Richard-sl8we100% Skoda cars are higher quality than any VW, they just make better Volkswagens!

  • @daveview1743
    @daveview1743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the Kamiq doesn't have a override facility on the Automatic Locking System it's a potential deathtrap.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is one of the most random things I’ve seen in a comment on a new car review.

    • @daveview1743
      @daveview1743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @therightcar It's a fact .It took me 9 months to get Skoda to recognise the design fault and finally the tech team have created a method to reset the computer. Skoda removed the override which was on previous models .So if you are buying get the override applied so the driver can decide if he is locked in ,its definitely not a Safety Feature as they would want you to believe.Check it out you should know and be advising people.

  • @chucknorris8704
    @chucknorris8704 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WOnder what the long term reliability is like. If its anything like my last 2 VW & Audis, then no thanks. Utter garbage cars after 8 years

    • @zzz-pe3mp
      @zzz-pe3mp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      trash like every other vag product with the same gearbox

    • @rickb314
      @rickb314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is going to sound strange but hear me out...Skoda make better cars than VW or Audi. Same parts I know! But it's true, you talk to Skoda owners (and I'm one of them) the Czech brand simply builds better Volkswagens, as strange as that seems at first. I have a 2010 Octavia RS wagon and it's been faultess. It's got 137,000km and counting (and yes it's a DSG) and I would buy another one in a heartbeat.

    • @nsw72
      @nsw72 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you want reliability it's a one way street. Japan.

    • @jefwisse1957
      @jefwisse1957 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I bought a Skoda Karoq and within the first year I had two malfunctions. One of the malfunctions was fixed under warranty but I had to rent a car for a week (360 Euro's) and the other problem hasni't been fixed until this day. I love the car but I'm not very enthousiastic about the service.

  • @ezy.from.now.on.
    @ezy.from.now.on. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why choose European when you can have a Chinese one that looks better, has more tech, a more polarising design inside and out, is a lot more reliable then anything in the VW group, and just flat out cost so much less.

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      You clearly don’t understand what makes European cars better.

    • @ezy.from.now.on.
      @ezy.from.now.on. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@therightcar A slightly less amount of body roll and maybe some better handling is not enough to justify buying anything European since it'll be in the workshop every 3rd week.
      If you're buying European, you should be going for the more expensive ones that get you so much more power and a luxury feel.
      But a Kamiq just cannot justify itself when the Chery Omoda 5 GT exists

    • @Steve-jx3mh
      @Steve-jx3mh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Skoda might be part of the VW group, but ive never found an issue with them and most of the owners i know love them. They are also not as expensive to maintain as the VW's.

    • @zzz-pe3mp
      @zzz-pe3mp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@therightcar Skoda is effectively the chinese car of europe and the gearbox will be toast by the time it hits 100k

    • @rickb314
      @rickb314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@zzz-pe3mphello let me fill you in my friend...I own a 2010 Skoda Octavia RS wagon. It has a 6spd DSG transmission. It now has over 137,000kms on it, and is 14.5 years old. Guess what? It's been faultess. Not a single fault in over 14 years. In and out of the workshop huh? LOL you sound like someone who believes everything they read on the internet. What would I know though? I only own a Skoda and have had over 14 years of absolutely faultless motoring.

  • @garycusack9247
    @garycusack9247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why dual clutch shit auto's

    • @therightcar
      @therightcar  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what they banked on for this generation of products.