In UC Engage's crossover story, he uses Unicorn with hyper mega launcher instead of the beam magnum. And while it get the job done, he verbally state that he like beam magnum more.
Banagher's insistence on using the continuing to use the Beam Magnum is honestly inspiring. Which I'm fine with, the Beam Magnum is my favorite Gundam Weapons.
@@shauqiharris2772it's can one shot and even near the beam line will severely damage any MS. Why need bigger cannon when beam magnum have same output in compact package
When it comes to the RG and this backstory installment, it's rather funny the MK. II RG frame is what they used for the RG Sinanju, just with some minor extensions.
@@kivulifenrir The Mk. II might have the overall sturdiest premold innerframe. It still struggles with Sinanju because of the huge size and weight, but other premold frames might have made it even worse.
@@zafranorbian757 Yes, it is the best of the early frames, hence why they used it. It was more just a bit ironic that it ties in with the bits mentioned in the video is all.
Honestly I think it made more sense for Banagher to pilot the Silver Bullet Suppressor instead of that modified Gundam MK-II. While Gundam NT wasn't a great movie, one of the things I did like was Banagher's use of a modified Silver Bullet to allow him to fire the Beam Magnum multiple times, rather than somehow acquiring a modified Gundam Mk-II. The Mineva Faction Banagher is working for doesn't have access to mobile suit R&D or manufacturing, and the Unicorn Gundam is way too high-profile of a machine to be used in their operations, so they're saving it in storage for emergencies only. However, since they're based in the former Vist Foundation's Magallanica, they would have access to the Vist Foundation's resources, which would include Silver Bullets. Silver Bullets should be designed to be modified since the Vist Foundation had been using them as testbeds for new technologies, and since the Silver Bullets' arms also function as Incoms, it'd be reasonable to assume the Vist Foundation would have a lot of spare Silver Bullet arms on hand to speed up maintenance and replace any damaged components between tests. The Silver Bullet Suppressor is intended to be a long range fire support MS that is only meant to be used in scenarios that require heavy firepower. The Beam Magnum itself offers insanely potent firepower in a small package, which makes it easy to transport without drawing too much attention. This makes the Silver Bullet Suppressor the perfect machine to meet the needs of Banagher and the Mineva Faction, and the logistics of how he'd acquire this machine come together a lot more smoothly than however he acquired that Gundam Mk-II and the modifications process that was done to it.
Reading Ms explanations from gbo2 says that the sbs was made from the corpse of Gaels sb, and what with sb and doven wolfs having so many arms around gave it spare "armmunition"
It was a shock to learn that one of the Mk.2 ended up in the junkyard in Shangri-La in Kikka's manga. Since you didn't bring that up, I assume you did not know this fact. Chapter 5 of the Pulitzer manga.
who is chasing Quattro at the beginning i always assumed that was Jerid. SO glad to see it brought up. Jerid jumping from unit to unit, i used to assume unit 1 was Jerid for years. like maybe they all tested each unit, for repairs idk. I even assumed UNit 1 was meant to be 3 the whole time IE leading to the later crash, but maybe he just hopped from one to the other.
@@MusicFan752 I think the point of Jerid's reputation is that he is a talented pilot but is conceited and arrogant, he has 0 combat experience and can't adapt to new things. Firing in a colony was a mistake Amuro learned in the first episode of 0079. Yea I can't imagine its Emma since she comes off the opposite she is very cautious and by the book.
@@andagean I think green noa 1. As for amuro yes and no. Yes he did cause an explosion inside the colony to happen, but it wasn't from his shots it was from cutting a zaku 2 in half and the zakus reactor exploding caused the hole in the colony. Amuro did at least learn from that and his next opponent he took care of carefully by aiming for the cockpit
Earth Federation: Banagher, you gotta let go of the Beam Magnum. Banagher: You can have this when you pry it from my cold dead hands, even then good luck cause i would have glued it to my cold dead hands.
There was a fourth test pilot, Dava Balo, who appeared and was named in the episode Emma's Decision. He gets knocked out fof his troubles when Emma defects. I'd say he is the strongest candidate for the episode 1 Mark II pilot.
I’d like to assume parts from a Mk. II were used for the tristan, mostly because of slightly vague visual similarities in the backpack and shoulders, and because the Alex was supposedly fixed by SNRI in 0084 using materials from the Titans.
Man, hearing about Asuna Elmarit after so many years reminded me of how much I wanted to get a Le Cygne model kit. It's really annoying that École du Ciel ended in a permanent limbo, and that its characters and MS never get featured in any game.
QOTW: What would happen if an Oldtype attempted to pilot a Newtype mobile suit? Would it just not function? Would it kill them? Would it be too complicated and sensitive for any normal person to use? I just find it interesting.
I think they've shown that. I know Gundam Alex was a Newtype machine designed for Amuro, but when it was used by Christina Mackenzie she was constantly fighting the machine due to how sensitive it was. She could fight in it to an extent because she was a skilled test pilot but was no where close to using it to it's full potential. There are other times, like some of the Mobile Armors and early Newtype machines during the OYW that needed multiple crew members to use everything, but could be operated better by a single Newtype than a three man crew, or the in the Gryps Conflict with the Psycho Gundam barely able to move with an Oldtype pilot.
The Titans definitely had spare parts for the three/four trial units that could've been assembled into the phantom fifth from A New Translation and used to gather data for the Barzam. And, let's be honest, Banagher and Mineva would be absolute idiots to not use the beam magnum. They're borderline fugitives for exposing the Sleeves' backers and the Laplace Conspiracy.
This back and forth between infographics and webcam view (with the occasional picture-in-picture of something) is actually a really good format, imo. I think this is something you should do for really all your future lore content. Great stuff overall.
The MSF-007 Gundam Mk. III was also blueprinted off of the Gundam Mk. II. One of the stolen units was studied very thoroughly by Doctor Fujita's team at Anaheim.
Problem is that thing has probably so much Recoil that even Shoulder mounted it would still be a Maintenance drain, if not WORSE. Most Shoulder Mounted Beam weapons AFAIK are not power wise equal to. A MAIN BATTERY GUN of EF Period equivalent Spaceships. Or have both Power output and range of one.
@@andrehashimoto8056 Better idea would be to build some kind of platform to stick it in so that you could use it like a mega bazooka launcher, since, as far as I know, the beam magnum doesn't draw power from the mobile suit.
Funny that you mentioned Gopp, he's related to what I want to ask QOTW: "What did the Federation do with its half of the Zeon MS Companies' assets?" In Johnny Ridden no Kikkan, Gopp mentions that the Republic of Zeon auctioned the Principality's MS companies. Anaheim of course came in to buy, but the Federation didn't like that so they joined the auction as well. Both sides could only get half of the MS companies' assets. We already know what Anaheim did with its half 2nd QOTW: "Was it even lawful for the Republic of Zeon to auction off the MS companies to begin with?" The Federation was clearly troubled by this auction, but they joined rather than arrest anyone or reprimand the Republic for it
Fun Fact: Sei Iori's story for the Build Gundam Mk-II is that it's the Unit 5 intended for the Titans to make their own Super Gundam via the Build Booster Mk-II. It gets stolen by the AEUG, too.
this gundam for no particular reason, is my favorite mobile suit. the original version and the build fighters version have the best designs in my opinion with the hyakku shiki as a close second. the mk II just refused to stop functioning war after war😢
Yeah MKII hits a sweet spot between looking similar-ish to the grandaddy while sporting enough upgrades to be visually futuristic. The more angular and slim Hyaku Shiki and Zeta are futuristic as well but they lack much resemblance to grandaddy. Meanwhile, grandaddy is iconic but I don't think it's controversial to criticize it as too simplistic by modern standards to come across as futuristic. That's all my long-winded way of saying that I feel the MKII has a timeless quality that doesn't always apply to the various Gundams.
Excited I finally found and purchased the RG Mk II locally two days ago! It would be my 1st, as I never bought the HGUC options (though have the old HGUC Super Gundam.) Thanks so much for your work on these videos.
I bought a MK II titans kit and repainted it to AEUG colors, scuffed it up, and recreated all the battle damage i saw the Mk II take in the wars. One of my favorite gunpla projects to date. Unit 3 saw a lot of use
I could also see some of the "stored" Gundams being sent to museums there It's also possible that there were others constructed, especially after the theft, so building replacements is highly possible there
well Unicorn is sealed so Banagher wanted to use a non Unicorn unit while the Silver Bullet Suppressor is being developed, the Mk-2 serve as prototype for the SBS and using Doven Wolf extra arms, If I'm not mistaken the designer of the MkII Banagher Custom said the hand can survives 2 to 3 shots (depending if Banana decide to spam shot it, it probably only last 2 shots) before the entire customize arms is broken
Hmmm... Seeing this, my own pet theory is that Unit 3 after the end of the First Neo-Zeon War would use parts from Unit 4 to repair before being placed into storage, then Unit 1 would be the one used by Yazan later on.
I built the MG Mk II 2.0 HD, and used the Unit 4 markings as sort of an in-joke. At the time I built the kit, what information I could find suggested that there were only the three units. Also, I had a penchant for Fourth Gundams, such as RX-78-4 and GP04.
the mark 2 is one of my all time favorites mainly because it takes the existing design of the gundam and refines it. some times the best things is not a totally new design or to come up with some gimmick but to use what works reliably. Plus its much easier to make a mass production unit any trooper can use
Question(s) of the week: why did Earth sphere rely on Helium-3 mined out from Jupiter rathern than on the Moon even after the OYW? How actually work the control system of a MS?
For an extra bonus; the Build Gundam Mk.II from Build Fighters has its fictional background given by Sei that it's Unit 5 built by Titans to counter the Super Gundam (but later stopen by AEUG again). So people at Sunrise indirectly accept the existence of Unit 4 as official.
Beam guns are actually an offshoot of mega particle guns, the main difference is how they produce the beam. Mega particle guns draw energy directly from their power source, and condenses it into mega particles to fire. The problem is that it takes a lot of power and charging time to fire, which means that most mobile suits can't use them. Beam guns basically come prepackaged with condensed energy, and only need a little extra from the power source to fire the beam. This makes it less power draining for the vehicle/mobile suit it's attached to and eliminates most of the charge time. The main difference between a beam rifle and a beam spray gun is how narrow the beam is. Beam spray guns are like shotguns, with a wider spread of particles, hence the spray part of the name. Beam rifles have a much narrower focus, which makes them more powerful and accurate over longer distances due to all the energy being more focused in one spot.
The mark 2 basically gives me 2 things to think about the first of which is your main character from unicorn refuses to let go of the beam magnum even when he's not even using the unicorn anymore, like seriously I think he treats that like it was Audrey and the second thing is we do have female pilots that can hold their own in a gundam with the main examples being Emma and Elle. But the whole mystery surrounding where the hell do all these extra mark 2's come from really does ring home the fact that okay so we know where these 3 came from but we don't know where the other 1s where afterwards. It's like a huge mess but it is fun to theory craft at times.
Well I'd like think that maybe random ones actually Created with spare parts because those other mk2 could actually be Heavily modified GMs just like what happened with Spares for original gundam and man that gos down rabbit hole and half with How many different suits came out that
QOTW: In the Cosmic Era, what powerplants/reactors do warships use? Most spacecraft in Gundam works use nuclear reactors, but by the First Bloody Valentine war, these would be inoperable due N-Jammers. I have some ideas. 1. Hybrid Nuclear/Battery- Ships run off Nuclear when possible, but switch to batteries when in range of NJammers. Issue is that every faction (Earth Alliance, ZAFT, Orb ect) would have needed to design, test, manufacture, and implement such a system in only a couple of weeks, and ZAFT could have had absolute dominance in the meantime 2. Exotic- Antimatter or similar non-nuclear. Problem is both the energy crisis on earth, and it would need to be small enough for a warship but too large for a mobile suit/mobile armor. Also an alternative (proven) power source would seemingly be quicker to implement in the civilian sector than digging out N-jammers. 3. They still use Nuclear reactors, but shielding resists N-Jammers enough to power warships. Issue is that the Earth still has an energy crisis. It would be relatively easy to reconfigure civilian reactors to warship standards, at least easier than digging out N-jammers.
Great vid! I have a good question of the week: What's the history of the Zeta Plus line of mobile suits, and exactly how many variations are in it? Honestly, it's a little confusing seeing all the different versions of the same suit.😅
The Mark II is definitely my favorite U.C. Mobile suit second only to the Nu. Interesting to see what happened to them. One thing I like to believe is that it’s likely that the Titans made more than 4 units as the Mark II was meant for mass production, so it’s likely they were rolled out after the initial 4 or were already built and tested somewhere else while the 3 known ones were sent to Green Noa
The MG Build MKII had a ‘unit 6’ sticker included, which sounds like acknowledgment of a unit 5. If they were that convenient for service and parts replacement, it’s not unthinkable that subsequent units could be assembled from enough spare parts.
Would be interesting if you brought up the mk-2 b type, which sorta retcons that the mk2 was never massed produced, but could easily be explained as some other ms that was heavily modified into looking like the mk2
GBF Build Gundam MK-II made by Iori references a 5th MK-II used to build a counter to the Super Gundam. Would be funny if this unit suddenly existed and made canon in a UC storyline 😆
This is wild! I was trying to look up this exact info not that long ago but was having trouble getting straight answers. I could have sworn that one of the Mk II's was used to make the Zeta, but I must have misinterpreted something while watching Zeta Gundam.
It makes more sense for unit's 1 & 3 to be the most current fielded units because the repair cost for either of the others would be to high. They might be able to cobble 1 from the two junkers but they could also rely on retrofitting GM 3 parts for the mrk 2's.
Arguably speaking, the Gundam MK-IIs were so repairable because they were made out of mass production materials, and Anaheim was already reproducing their parts. So AEUG mechanics were likely able to patch them up with parts and materials on hand. Also, it's a shame you mentioned the GM III, but not the Nemo Rimes, which was also developed from the MK-II's data.
My question is, where the hell was the Gundam Team from Zeta and ZZ during Chars Counter attack or the Unicorn incidents? Just shoving them off to Jupiter seems like a lazy excuse.
To my knowledge, the Mk.II, Shiki, and Zeta were put into storage. In a manga during Char's counterattack, Amuro asked Bright why they couldn't access the Zeta or Shiki. Bright responded that they were deemed as "nuclear level threat" weapons and sealed away by high fed officials. It was a decision that wouldn't be overturned. The ZZ was taken on the Jupitris with Judau.
@@TheObservantGent well considering the time jump between the Grips War and CC it's not like the zeta was top of the line anymore anyway. But still. If we take into account "New Translations" recon, why wasn't Kamille involved in CC or in the Unicorn incidents? I'll accept that the ZZ team probably couldn't make it back for CC but definitely by Unicorn. Or hell where is Kou from the GP Gundam team in all this? Was he absorbed into the Titans? He was enough of an emotional baby for them. I wish they would take the time to do a "where are they now" for more than just the original One Year war characters. Hell Sayla got completely forgotten about.
@shindoushuichi0287 Fair point regarding the Zeta. I misunderstood on what you were referring to by "Gundam team". As far as the Zeta translation, that seemed like an alternate ending. After what happened to Kamille throughout the Zeta series, it's understandable why he wouldn't be in a hurry to get involved in another war. He is an experienced pilot, but he isn't a war monger. Same with Kou, he was lucky to be discharged instead of court-martialled since the GP series was erased and didn't "exist". Imagine being a gundam pilot trying to do the morally right thing only to face potential execution by the military you're serving. In my opinion, Kou got a second chance to live and didn't look back. It would be cool if the charges were dropped and he came back as a more mature and experienced pilot though. As far as the other mentioned characters, I'm sure most of them made some kind of cameo s in manga.
We really want a continuation of Ecole du Ciel. This was something there's not enough story for. Cookie cutter addition, I am still expecting an updated version of the Freedom & Justice Development History not only adding in the SEED Freedom machines, but also factoring in Albert Heinlein's involvement throughout the entire Cosmic Era.
I wonder if Jerid ever drove someone cross country by car while dancing to jazz music while the other person slept and smoking a cigarette? He seems like the kind of guy who would do the Messa round. XD
There is a fourth Gundam MK II used by the Anaheim not listed. If you look at the Episode where they receive the G-defensor the Anaheim transport ship has a gundam MK II that is painted in Nemo colors. The prevailing theory is that this unit is made from Anaheim reproduction parts, because even with 3 units they needed to manufacture their own parts for the MK II to keep up with repairs.
Maintainability is more important than most people think. That's why you still see Soviet T-55's still in service. You can keep them going forever, I'm wondering if they actually had assigned pilots for the test program. Most militaries operate in a way that a pilot is assigned per flight, they don't really do the "This pilot is assigned to this aircraft" for the most part. It does happen, but rarely. So Emma not being the pilot chasing Char is likely. Though, she was fairly new, and newer pilots tend to not really think things through and do stupid things. But using a vulcan on a person always felt like a Jared thing to do. Personally, I'd have just lined up, gone full throttle, and reported a "Really big bird strike".
I'd never seen that Banagher custom before, that floored me! I have an idea for a question of the week, but it miiight be too big in scope. I'll try anyway. What parts of The Origin can be reconciled with regular UC, whether that be due to things actually fitting, or through the power of headcanons? And, on the other side, what parts aren't compatible, and why?
That makes sense to me that unit 4 is absent from the anime because it was in a bad test crash I mean they had to push the limits and test the boundaries with at least one so they know what the other three can handle. Plus the whole 4 being unlucky in Japan probably played a role in it’s absence.
Honorable mention: sei iori used a modified mk2 to assault a baoa qu and his redhead friend used it alongside a modified gundam x to attack an asparas III after beating up a Gundam double x
The unit 3 should have been put in a museum, like the one we saw in unicorn. At least acknowledge that AEUG played in a role in suppressing the titans.
In one of the later jhonny ridden chapters, i saw yazan ... i mean vazuki's upgraded mk 2. And looks pretty cool holding its own against a practice duel with a cyber new types FA gundam with funnels btw.
I have a few question: 1. How many Gundam F91 out there 2. Which unit did Seabook Arno pilot ? 3. What happened to all of em during Cosmo Babylonia War/F91 Prequel manga ?
I believe it was only seen in some games, but what about the RX-178-X0 Prototype Gundam Mk II? And then we have the mock ups from Thunderbolt too. But as far as canon goes yeah, I think that covers it.
Well logically speaking. If they had 4 units altogether. All 4 would have spare replacement parts for each of them. Depending on how much they manage to manufacture. The Titans could have assembled the replacement parts to rebuild 2 and a half Gundam units. Use the leftover half to make the Barzam.
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Corrections:
08:23 The Gundam Mk-II in ZZ Gundam is Unit 3 (not Unit 1)
11:47 Again Unit 3 (not Unit 1)
Might be fan service , but in the Pulitzer manga chapter 5 we saw a damaged Mk2 in AEUG colour , wasnt that suppose to be Unit 3 ?
Also, 11:47 you mean Unit 3 right?
Seems like a lot of Unit 1 and Unit 3 swapping.
@@Dangaioit's very likely based on Zeta Define manga
In that manga Kamille stealing unit 1 instead unit 3
Whenever Banagher gets a new Mobile Suit, he subtly glances at the Beam Magnum and goes "So hear me out..."
*listen, it’s really really good and I like it*
Can't never forget the feeling of your first gun
Can't never forget the feeling of your first Beam Rifle. Or in this case, Beam Magnum.
The sound effect is just too good to give up
Agreed! Nothing can beat the absolute raw power of the beam magnum!
Look. I know i fried every single right arm, but listen
Honestly, I can't fault Banagher for keeping the Beam Magnum. That weapon's deadly, especially the way it sounds after you pull the trigger.
It was literally able to destroy an ms with the beam just barely grazing it, of course he kept it lol
It's too good to just throw it away. It's literally one of my favorite Beam Rifles.
In UC Engage's crossover story, he uses Unicorn with hyper mega launcher instead of the beam magnum.
And while it get the job done, he verbally state that he like beam magnum more.
Banagher definitely got good with the weapon that no beam rifle can compare.
Banagher's insistence on using the continuing to use the Beam Magnum is honestly inspiring. Which I'm fine with, the Beam Magnum is my favorite Gundam Weapons.
It's too good to just throw it away.
@@shauqiharris2772it's can one shot and even near the beam line will severely damage any MS. Why need bigger cannon when beam magnum have same output in compact package
lmao; Bad-Badger's need to use the Unicorn's beam magnum is the most wholesome love story of the whole series.
The Mk. II never dissappoints, neither the modelkits nor the story involvement.
Even the RG holds up well
Even RG aged quite well.
When it comes to the RG and this backstory installment, it's rather funny the MK. II RG frame is what they used for the RG Sinanju, just with some minor extensions.
@@kivulifenrir The Mk. II might have the overall sturdiest premold innerframe. It still struggles with Sinanju because of the huge size and weight, but other premold frames might have made it even worse.
@@zafranorbian757 Yes, it is the best of the early frames, hence why they used it. It was more just a bit ironic that it ties in with the bits mentioned in the video is all.
Honestly I think it made more sense for Banagher to pilot the Silver Bullet Suppressor instead of that modified Gundam MK-II. While Gundam NT wasn't a great movie, one of the things I did like was Banagher's use of a modified Silver Bullet to allow him to fire the Beam Magnum multiple times, rather than somehow acquiring a modified Gundam Mk-II. The Mineva Faction Banagher is working for doesn't have access to mobile suit R&D or manufacturing, and the Unicorn Gundam is way too high-profile of a machine to be used in their operations, so they're saving it in storage for emergencies only. However, since they're based in the former Vist Foundation's Magallanica, they would have access to the Vist Foundation's resources, which would include Silver Bullets. Silver Bullets should be designed to be modified since the Vist Foundation had been using them as testbeds for new technologies, and since the Silver Bullets' arms also function as Incoms, it'd be reasonable to assume the Vist Foundation would have a lot of spare Silver Bullet arms on hand to speed up maintenance and replace any damaged components between tests. The Silver Bullet Suppressor is intended to be a long range fire support MS that is only meant to be used in scenarios that require heavy firepower. The Beam Magnum itself offers insanely potent firepower in a small package, which makes it easy to transport without drawing too much attention. This makes the Silver Bullet Suppressor the perfect machine to meet the needs of Banagher and the Mineva Faction, and the logistics of how he'd acquire this machine come together a lot more smoothly than however he acquired that Gundam Mk-II and the modifications process that was done to it.
Reading Ms explanations from gbo2 says that the sbs was made from the corpse of Gaels sb, and what with sb and doven wolfs having so many arms around gave it spare "armmunition"
The fact that Yazan got more combat flight time in the Mk II than Jerid is hilarious. Thanks for the video.
Banagher in the beginning: "it's too strong i can't use it 😢"
Banagher later: So hear me out..."
It was a shock to learn that one of the Mk.2 ended up in the junkyard in Shangri-La in Kikka's manga. Since you didn't bring that up, I assume you did not know this fact. Chapter 5 of the Pulitzer manga.
Nope, haven't had the chance yet to check out the Pulitzer manga.
who is chasing Quattro at the beginning i always assumed that was Jerid. SO glad to see it brought up. Jerid jumping from unit to unit, i used to assume unit 1 was Jerid for years. like maybe they all tested each unit, for repairs idk. I even assumed UNit 1 was meant to be 3 the whole time IE leading to the later crash, but maybe he just hopped from one to the other.
I always assumed jerid cause of how stupidly reckless he normally is along with despite being a "titan ace" just sucks.
@@MusicFan752 I think the point of Jerid's reputation is that he is a talented pilot but is conceited and arrogant, he has 0 combat experience and can't adapt to new things. Firing in a colony was a mistake Amuro learned in the first episode of 0079. Yea I can't imagine its Emma since she comes off the opposite she is very cautious and by the book.
Also if I remember things correctly was that inside Gryps or was that at Green Noa 1?
@@andagean I think green noa 1. As for amuro yes and no. Yes he did cause an explosion inside the colony to happen, but it wasn't from his shots it was from cutting a zaku 2 in half and the zakus reactor exploding caused the hole in the colony. Amuro did at least learn from that and his next opponent he took care of carefully by aiming for the cockpit
So now we can add Magnum-chan to the list of Gundam weapons that their pilots love a bit too much.
Can't fault Banagher for it though. Thing's a beast lol.
I love Magnum-chan more than Satellite Cannon-San!
@@striker2088 of posibility?
@@sovietdominion lmaoooo
@@shauqiharris2772 Mace-chan will always be the classic.
Earth Federation: Banagher, you gotta let go of the Beam Magnum.
Banagher: You can have this when you pry it from my cold dead hands, even then good luck cause i would have glued it to my cold dead hands.
Banagher loves his Beam Magnum so much.
@@shauqiharris2772
Anyone in Banana Boy's position would, honestly
2 thing that Banagher can’t afford to lose. His virginity and the beam magnum
I love UC lore. It's a crammed bookshelf that they just keep squeezing new little things into.
There was a fourth test pilot, Dava Balo, who appeared and was named in the episode Emma's Decision. He gets knocked out fof his troubles when Emma defects.
I'd say he is the strongest candidate for the episode 1 Mark II pilot.
I’d like to assume parts from a Mk. II were used for the tristan, mostly because of slightly vague visual similarities in the backpack and shoulders, and because the Alex was supposedly fixed by SNRI in 0084 using materials from the Titans.
0094 I assume you mean?
@@ORLY911 wiki says 0084, idk
It's either that, or all that data gathering that Unit 1 was doing influenced its design.
Banagher be like: "STOP FIGHTINGGG!!!"
Also Banagher: You know, i really like this weapon of mass destruction (Beam Magnum).
Also given that the hg, rg, mg, and pg Gundam mk iis are some of the most reliable of their grades, it adds on to the mk ii’s overall great history
There's a perfect grade gundam mk2? I feel like I never really hear about it.
@@Tahu33446 its unfortunate too, it looks wicked cool
@@a.p.studios8713 Wait there is one? I thought you'd say no you made a mistake. That's surprising
@@Tahu33446 no there is, there’s a pg mk ii in both aeug and titans colors
@@a.p.studios8713 So does that means that there are 2 of them, or one with the parts and colors to make both?
Man, hearing about Asuna Elmarit after so many years reminded me of how much I wanted to get a Le Cygne model kit. It's really annoying that École du Ciel ended in a permanent limbo, and that its characters and MS never get featured in any game.
QOTW: What would happen if an Oldtype attempted to pilot a Newtype mobile suit?
Would it just not function? Would it kill them? Would it be too complicated and sensitive for any normal person to use? I just find it interesting.
we see this in zeta when someone pilots the psycho gundam to give it to four and they struggle to get the thing to move around
I think they've shown that. I know Gundam Alex was a Newtype machine designed for Amuro, but when it was used by Christina Mackenzie she was constantly fighting the machine due to how sensitive it was. She could fight in it to an extent because she was a skilled test pilot but was no where close to using it to it's full potential. There are other times, like some of the Mobile Armors and early Newtype machines during the OYW that needed multiple crew members to use everything, but could be operated better by a single Newtype than a three man crew, or the in the Gryps Conflict with the Psycho Gundam barely able to move with an Oldtype pilot.
@@lupinargentum Yeah, I assume a Newtype-piloted Alex would have easily destroyed Bernie's Zaku without breaking a sweat.
Going by certain instances with Elmeth in Ghiren's Greed. Mostly likely 'Reduced Capacity' of Arms like No funnels. Or just doesn't work well.
If Super Robot Wars is to believed, People without the "Newtype" ability can pilot the Nu Gundam just fine but can't use the Fin Funnels.
The Titans definitely had spare parts for the three/four trial units that could've been assembled into the phantom fifth from A New Translation and used to gather data for the Barzam.
And, let's be honest, Banagher and Mineva would be absolute idiots to not use the beam magnum. They're borderline fugitives for exposing the Sleeves' backers and the Laplace Conspiracy.
I always felt that the MK II had issues with stopping power but was one of the most resilient MS that the AEUG ever fielded
This back and forth between infographics and webcam view (with the occasional picture-in-picture of something) is actually a really good format, imo. I think this is something you should do for really all your future lore content. Great stuff overall.
I love the Mk2 so Im glad there are still some around and preforming well after so long .
QOTW: Can we get a Development History about the Danazine from Gundam Age, and the Vagan Mobile Suits that were its predecessors?
The MSF-007 Gundam Mk. III was also blueprinted off of the Gundam Mk. II. One of the stolen units was studied very thoroughly by Doctor Fujita's team at Anaheim.
I’m shocked we haven’t gotten a design with the beam magnum mounted over the shoulder to solve the arm issue.
Problem is that thing has probably so much Recoil that even Shoulder mounted it would still be a Maintenance drain, if not WORSE.
Most Shoulder Mounted Beam weapons AFAIK are not power wise equal to. A MAIN BATTERY GUN of EF Period equivalent Spaceships. Or have both Power output and range of one.
@@andrehashimoto8056 Better idea would be to build some kind of platform to stick it in so that you could use it like a mega bazooka launcher, since, as far as I know, the beam magnum doesn't draw power from the mobile suit.
and there is also the Full Armor Gundam Mk-II which makes things more confusing, lol.
Kamille piloted that Mk-II in Super Robot Wars 30.
"banagher, for this covert operation, we need you to pilot this old GM model"
"sure, can i bring the beam magnum?"
Man Banagher surely loves the Beam Magnum.
If Banagher had his way, he would even find a way to install the Beam Magnum on The Ball, much less any Mobile Suit he can get his hands on.
Mobile worker with a beam magnum strapped at the arm lmao
Funny that you mentioned Gopp, he's related to what I want to ask
QOTW: "What did the Federation do with its half of the Zeon MS Companies' assets?"
In Johnny Ridden no Kikkan, Gopp mentions that the Republic of Zeon auctioned the Principality's MS companies. Anaheim of course came in to buy, but the Federation didn't like that so they joined the auction as well. Both sides could only get half of the MS companies' assets. We already know what Anaheim did with its half
2nd QOTW: "Was it even lawful for the Republic of Zeon to auction off the MS companies to begin with?"
The Federation was clearly troubled by this auction, but they joined rather than arrest anyone or reprimand the Republic for it
Fun Fact: Sei Iori's story for the Build Gundam Mk-II is that it's the Unit 5 intended for the Titans to make their own Super Gundam via the Build Booster Mk-II. It gets stolen by the AEUG, too.
Shoutout to Elle for kicking butt in the already-outdated Mk II!
I didn't really make the connection between series that they're the same ms - such a detail... Also great to see other lore fans like you
this gundam for no particular reason, is my favorite mobile suit. the original version and the build fighters version have the best designs in my opinion with the hyakku shiki as a close second. the mk II just refused to stop functioning war after war😢
Yeah MKII hits a sweet spot between looking similar-ish to the grandaddy while sporting enough upgrades to be visually futuristic. The more angular and slim Hyaku Shiki and Zeta are futuristic as well but they lack much resemblance to grandaddy. Meanwhile, grandaddy is iconic but I don't think it's controversial to criticize it as too simplistic by modern standards to come across as futuristic. That's all my long-winded way of saying that I feel the MKII has a timeless quality that doesn't always apply to the various Gundams.
Excited I finally found and purchased the RG Mk II locally two days ago! It would be my 1st, as I never bought the HGUC options (though have the old HGUC Super Gundam.)
Thanks so much for your work on these videos.
I bought a MK II titans kit and repainted it to AEUG colors, scuffed it up, and recreated all the battle damage i saw the Mk II take in the wars. One of my favorite gunpla projects to date. Unit 3 saw a lot of use
I could also see some of the "stored" Gundams being sent to museums there
It's also possible that there were others constructed, especially after the theft, so building replacements is highly possible there
well Unicorn is sealed so Banagher wanted to use a non Unicorn unit while the Silver Bullet Suppressor is being developed, the Mk-2 serve as prototype for the SBS and using Doven Wolf extra arms, If I'm not mistaken the designer of the MkII Banagher Custom said the hand can survives 2 to 3 shots (depending if Banana decide to spam shot it, it probably only last 2 shots) before the entire customize arms is broken
Hmmm... Seeing this, my own pet theory is that Unit 3 after the end of the First Neo-Zeon War would use parts from Unit 4 to repair before being placed into storage, then Unit 1 would be the one used by Yazan later on.
Banana and his never ending obsession on the beam magnum, now back to the fanart that banager married the beam magnum lmao
I built the MG Mk II 2.0 HD, and used the Unit 4 markings as sort of an in-joke. At the time I built the kit, what information I could find suggested that there were only the three units. Also, I had a penchant for Fourth Gundams, such as RX-78-4 and GP04.
Ty this one question about mk 2 has been on my mind for last 2 years
thanks, now i can put which MkII my personal Fan fiction unit gets the frame from.
I’m wondering about the Psycho Gundam G-Doors, since that unit looks to be based on the MK-2, at least from the neck down.
the mark 2 is one of my all time favorites mainly because it takes the existing design of the gundam and refines it. some times the best things is not a totally new design or to come up with some gimmick but to use what works reliably. Plus its much easier to make a mass production unit any trooper can use
Question(s) of the week:
why did Earth sphere rely on Helium-3 mined out from Jupiter rathern than on the Moon even after the OYW?
How actually work the control system of a MS?
For an extra bonus; the Build Gundam Mk.II from Build Fighters has its fictional background given by Sei that it's Unit 5 built by Titans to counter the Super Gundam (but later stopen by AEUG again).
So people at Sunrise indirectly accept the existence of Unit 4 as official.
For QoTW: What's the difference between the various types of beam weapons in the UC, i.e. "Beam Rifle" "Beam Spray Gun" "Mega Particle Gun" etc
Beam guns are actually an offshoot of mega particle guns, the main difference is how they produce the beam. Mega particle guns draw energy directly from their power source, and condenses it into mega particles to fire. The problem is that it takes a lot of power and charging time to fire, which means that most mobile suits can't use them. Beam guns basically come prepackaged with condensed energy, and only need a little extra from the power source to fire the beam. This makes it less power draining for the vehicle/mobile suit it's attached to and eliminates most of the charge time.
The main difference between a beam rifle and a beam spray gun is how narrow the beam is. Beam spray guns are like shotguns, with a wider spread of particles, hence the spray part of the name. Beam rifles have a much narrower focus, which makes them more powerful and accurate over longer distances due to all the energy being more focused in one spot.
The mark 2 basically gives me 2 things to think about the first of which is your main character from unicorn refuses to let go of the beam magnum even when he's not even using the unicorn anymore, like seriously I think he treats that like it was Audrey and the second thing is we do have female pilots that can hold their own in a gundam with the main examples being Emma and Elle. But the whole mystery surrounding where the hell do all these extra mark 2's come from really does ring home the fact that okay so we know where these 3 came from but we don't know where the other 1s where afterwards. It's like a huge mess but it is fun to theory craft at times.
Well I'd like think that maybe random ones actually Created with spare parts because those other mk2 could actually be Heavily modified GMs just like what happened with Spares for original gundam and man that gos down rabbit hole and half with How many different suits came out that
QOTW: In the Cosmic Era, what powerplants/reactors do warships use? Most spacecraft in Gundam works use nuclear reactors, but by the First Bloody Valentine war, these would be inoperable due N-Jammers.
I have some ideas.
1. Hybrid Nuclear/Battery- Ships run off Nuclear when possible, but switch to batteries when in range of NJammers. Issue is that every faction (Earth Alliance, ZAFT, Orb ect) would have needed to design, test, manufacture, and implement such a system in only a couple of weeks, and ZAFT could have had absolute dominance in the meantime
2. Exotic- Antimatter or similar non-nuclear. Problem is both the energy crisis on earth, and it would need to be small enough for a warship but too large for a mobile suit/mobile armor. Also an alternative (proven) power source would seemingly be quicker to implement in the civilian sector than digging out N-jammers.
3. They still use Nuclear reactors, but shielding resists N-Jammers enough to power warships. Issue is that the Earth still has an energy crisis. It would be relatively easy to reconfigure civilian reactors to warship standards, at least easier than digging out N-jammers.
Great vid! I have a good question of the week:
What's the history of the Zeta Plus line of mobile suits, and exactly how many variations are in it? Honestly, it's a little confusing seeing all the different versions of the same suit.😅
Unit 0... Oh that's a "what if" unit.
The Mark II is definitely my favorite U.C. Mobile suit second only to the Nu. Interesting to see what happened to them. One thing I like to believe is that it’s likely that the Titans made more than 4 units as the Mark II was meant for mass production, so it’s likely they were rolled out after the initial 4 or were already built and tested somewhere else while the 3 known ones were sent to Green Noa
The MG Build MKII had a ‘unit 6’ sticker included, which sounds like acknowledgment of a unit 5.
If they were that convenient for service and parts replacement, it’s not unthinkable that subsequent units could be assembled from enough spare parts.
It's kind of amazing that 4 Gundam units would all quite possibly survive.
Would be interesting if you brought up the mk-2 b type, which sorta retcons that the mk2 was never massed produced, but could easily be explained as some other ms that was heavily modified into looking like the mk2
GBF Build Gundam MK-II made by Iori references a 5th MK-II used to build a counter to the Super Gundam. Would be funny if this unit suddenly existed and made canon in a UC storyline 😆
Super Robot Wars 30 makes things even more confusing, as Kamille finds a Gundam mk 2 in the AEUG colors in a federation base.
Coming soon to a obscure sidestory near you "Banagher's Ball", you will never guess what weapon it has
He be using the Beam Magnum like how Soldier rocket jumps.
Goddamn, the Mk II really is the Toyota Hilux of Mobile Suits, huh? The thing just refuses to die.
To be fair first thing I did in Breaker 4 was farm for two Beam Magnums. Haven't looked back.
Honestly MK.II is my favorite MS of all time, and the one that makes me into gundamverse
This is wild! I was trying to look up this exact info not that long ago but was having trouble getting straight answers. I could have sworn that one of the Mk II's was used to make the Zeta, but I must have misinterpreted something while watching Zeta Gundam.
The data from the Mk-II's inner frame was used for the frame of the Zeta Gundam, so you remembered correctly.
It makes more sense for unit's 1 & 3 to be the most current fielded units because the repair cost for either of the others would be to high. They might be able to cobble 1 from the two junkers but they could also rely on retrofitting GM 3 parts for the mrk 2's.
Thanks for answering my question 😊
Lol 23 minutes before I ask myself the question this video was uploaded
The Gundam MK II just never seems to die just like my other favourite the Gundam Exia
Arguably speaking, the Gundam MK-IIs were so repairable because they were made out of mass production materials, and Anaheim was already reproducing their parts. So AEUG mechanics were likely able to patch them up with parts and materials on hand. Also, it's a shame you mentioned the GM III, but not the Nemo Rimes, which was also developed from the MK-II's data.
My question is, where the hell was the Gundam Team from Zeta and ZZ during Chars Counter attack or the Unicorn incidents? Just shoving them off to Jupiter seems like a lazy excuse.
To my knowledge, the Mk.II, Shiki, and Zeta were put into storage. In a manga during Char's counterattack, Amuro asked Bright why they couldn't access the Zeta or Shiki. Bright responded that they were deemed as "nuclear level threat" weapons and sealed away by high fed officials. It was a decision that wouldn't be overturned. The ZZ was taken on the Jupitris with Judau.
@@TheObservantGent well considering the time jump between the Grips War and CC it's not like the zeta was top of the line anymore anyway. But still. If we take into account "New Translations" recon, why wasn't Kamille involved in CC or in the Unicorn incidents? I'll accept that the ZZ team probably couldn't make it back for CC but definitely by Unicorn. Or hell where is Kou from the GP Gundam team in all this? Was he absorbed into the Titans? He was enough of an emotional baby for them.
I wish they would take the time to do a "where are they now" for more than just the original One Year war characters. Hell Sayla got completely forgotten about.
@shindoushuichi0287 Fair point regarding the Zeta. I misunderstood on what you were referring to by "Gundam team". As far as the Zeta translation, that seemed like an alternate ending. After what happened to Kamille throughout the Zeta series, it's understandable why he wouldn't be in a hurry to get involved in another war. He is an experienced pilot, but he isn't a war monger. Same with Kou, he was lucky to be discharged instead of court-martialled since the GP series was erased and didn't "exist". Imagine being a gundam pilot trying to do the morally right thing only to face potential execution by the military you're serving. In my opinion, Kou got a second chance to live and didn't look back. It would be cool if the charges were dropped and he came back as a more mature and experienced pilot though. As far as the other mentioned characters, I'm sure most of them made some kind of cameo s in manga.
We really want a continuation of Ecole du Ciel. This was something there's not enough story for.
Cookie cutter addition, I am still expecting an updated version of the Freedom & Justice Development History not only adding in the SEED Freedom machines, but also factoring in Albert Heinlein's involvement throughout the entire Cosmic Era.
I'm honestly torn if I like the Silver Bullet Suppressor or the modified Gundam MK.II more.
Man, I know so little about banagher's story after unicorn. I'd love to get a recap of his later involvement in UC
I personally believe that Yazan's MK-II is a brand new unit made to be up to spec for 0090 as opposed to one of the four that was stored after ZZ.
I wonder if Jerid ever drove someone cross country by car while dancing to jazz music while the other person slept and smoking a cigarette? He seems like the kind of guy who would do the Messa round. XD
There is a fourth Gundam MK II used by the Anaheim not listed. If you look at the Episode where they receive the G-defensor the Anaheim transport ship has a gundam MK II that is painted in Nemo colors. The prevailing theory is that this unit is made from Anaheim reproduction parts, because even with 3 units they needed to manufacture their own parts for the MK II to keep up with repairs.
episode?
The Flying Armor was used by Elle in the the First Neo Zeon War atmospheric entry battle.
Man I hope you can do all of the Zeta Unit’s and RX-78 Unit’s as well that could be cool to know
Maintainability is more important than most people think. That's why you still see Soviet T-55's still in service. You can keep them going forever,
I'm wondering if they actually had assigned pilots for the test program. Most militaries operate in a way that a pilot is assigned per flight, they don't really do the "This pilot is assigned to this aircraft" for the most part. It does happen, but rarely. So Emma not being the pilot chasing Char is likely. Though, she was fairly new, and newer pilots tend to not really think things through and do stupid things. But using a vulcan on a person always felt like a Jared thing to do.
Personally, I'd have just lined up, gone full throttle, and reported a "Really big bird strike".
Damn, I actually didn't know they mass produced that many.
I'd never seen that Banagher custom before, that floored me!
I have an idea for a question of the week, but it miiight be too big in scope. I'll try anyway. What parts of The Origin can be reconciled with regular UC, whether that be due to things actually fitting, or through the power of headcanons? And, on the other side, what parts aren't compatible, and why?
Kakarot please explain the Graze development history 👍
That makes sense to me that unit 4 is absent from the anime because it was in a bad test crash I mean they had to push the limits and test the boundaries with at least one so they know what the other three can handle. Plus the whole 4 being unlucky in Japan probably played a role in it’s absence.
If the situation is really dire, I wouldn't doubt Banagher would make a Ball hold the Beam Magnum.
at some point banagher could have asked Minerva to let him take Unicorn's right arm
Honorable mention: sei iori used a modified mk2 to assault a baoa qu and his redhead friend used it alongside a modified gundam x to attack an asparas III after beating up a Gundam double x
It was an unofficial Unit 5, according to Sei Iori.
To be fair, "Titians" use it as a weapon for civil war in earth sphere. So it was over shadowed by zeta and hyaku
Thought one appeared in RoJR. Gopp got ahold of one for Yazan after his GM Night Seeker was destroyed in a battle with Char
3:42 no, that's a GM Quel
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The unit 3 should have been put in a museum, like the one we saw in unicorn. At least acknowledge that AEUG played in a role in suppressing the titans.
The 4th was turned into the psycho gundam mk4 Gdoors
Imagine if the MkII had been remade with Gundarium Y instead of the ceramic composite armor it rolled out with.
In one of the later jhonny ridden chapters, i saw yazan ... i mean vazuki's upgraded mk 2. And looks pretty cool holding its own against a practice duel with a cyber new types FA gundam with funnels btw.
I have a few question:
1. How many Gundam F91 out there
2. Which unit did Seabook Arno pilot ?
3. What happened to all of em during Cosmo Babylonia War/F91 Prequel manga ?
Damn the Gundam Mk II Is one of the most sexy designs to date. Stands the test of time.
I believe it was only seen in some games, but what about the RX-178-X0 Prototype Gundam Mk II? And then we have the mock ups from Thunderbolt too. But as far as canon goes yeah, I think that covers it.
Well logically speaking. If they had 4 units altogether. All 4 would have spare replacement parts for each of them. Depending on how much they manage to manufacture. The Titans could have assembled the replacement parts to rebuild 2 and a half Gundam units. Use the leftover half to make the Barzam.
I always wondered if you put a regular pilot in the RX-78-2, and regular pilot in the Mk.II, which would actually win.