GOLDEN SCOUT VS GOLDEN SOLDIER | WHICH IS BETTER? -Tower Defense Simulator
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- The Golden Soldier and Golden Scout are two Powerful Early Game Towers from the Golden Crate. But Which is Better?
In Todays Video, I look at Stats, Values, Uses, and Capabilities of these Towers to help you decide which Tower you should use.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:24 Golden Scout
2:02 Golden Soldier
3:40 Which is Better?
5:27 Conclusion
5:49 Outro
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nice! love ur vids❤ also. I think it all what tower we using golden scout or golden soldier wich one more is fun to use
Discord link is broken lmao
@@Erinnn_oops, fixed
I would say it depends on your playstyle but mostly g scout
@@CORSOBLOX Opinion on neko DJ?
Golden Soldier is the definition of rags to riches. Went from the worst gold skin to one of the best. Extremely powerful, cheap, and only 2-4 is needed to handle hidden waves. An overall versatile and powerful unit. That doesn’t mean GScout is bad in anyway though. Both are real good, but GSoldier is just better in the long term + can handle flying units.
G scout is better imo cause it's way cheaper, but that's not saying the g soldier is bad in any way
Dam before it got buffed i though it the worst e
@@Theserenityexperience if you look at the wiki for total pricing, gsoldier is about the same price as 2 gscouts. gsoldier has 54.35 dps while 2 gscouts has 73.52 dps lol
And now golden pyro went from rags to riches to rags again ._.
@@hamstermuncher6688 bro can't handle accepting an opinion
Note that Golden Soldier also benefits more from Commander's firerate boost, since not only does it shorten the length between bursts, but also shortens the bursts themselves.
Both get roughly the same buff, soldier gets a bit less increase due to his increased firerate and rate of fire bug.
not really, lets take lvl 3 g soldier for example, its takes 0.8 seconds to finish the burst (8 shots with 0.1 firerate, doesnt count RoF bug) and 1.2 seconds to start another burst, overall 2 seconds for burst and cooldown, with lvl 4 commander, the time beetwen shots will decrease to 0.8, or 6.4 for a burst, and cooldown from 1.2 to 0.96, so burst and cooldown combined will be 1.6 instead of 2(w/o RoF bug), which is exactly 25% increase in dps
note that math was done w/o counting RoF bug, and gso affects more from this bug than gs, so in fact, gs get more buffs from commander
@@user-fi1ch3hj8r if level 3 gso has a 0.1 firerate, how does commander boost increase the firerate to 0.8 instead of decreasing it?
I'm probably reading it wrong (yes I did I'm retarded) but you say instead of decreasing the firerate it instead increases it from 2 seconds for the burst and cool down between burst to 6.4 seconds for JUST the burst
(just need clarification, not trying to start an arguement)
edit: nvm I'm blind you clarified it does take 1.6 seconds ignore this entire reply
@@user-fi1ch3hj8r so you just calculated gso dps when buffed with commander 25% passive got exactly 25% buff (duh) and then you say gs gets more buff? That makes no sense
I like you. First of all your videos are very informative and you get down to every last detail, plus you elaborate every good and bad thing about the towers, your editing is also good, and you are both good for people that are more visual and people who like things to be explained to them. Id say if anyone was wondering about towers and how good they are, I’d simply tell them to watch one of your videos about that specific tower. Keep it up dude. 👍
Thank you! I appreciate the support and i’m glad you like the vids 🤝
@@CORSOBLOX yw.
@@CORSOBLOX Dude, Corso Is literally The Smartest TDS TH-camr On TH-cam. (I Joined Your Discord Aswell)
Amazing tutorial, no loud annoying music, no annoying youtuber voice and it's a good, clean and quick video. And your voice is soothing.
Golden solider is my first golden tower and at first, I was really sad that I got it. But after using it in game it changed my whole opinion on it. It does close to the normal minigunner's dps while being much cheaper. I just love it!
I mean, did you get golden soldier before it was buffed?
@@shadowmonkey9123 nope,I think I got it right after the buff
@@shadowmonkey9123 got it since frost event
It was my first as well
It was my 4th crate
yes sirr I was waiting for this and here is your like! 👍
nice editting dude, finally a tds yt that doesnt have 3 essays of text on a topic for a minute of talking
5:36 not the mention that in certain maps, 8 Golden Soldier + supports like commander and DJ especially, it can kill a tank. Yes, a high speed, High hp TANK dies to 8 Golden Soldiers. Not to mention that they cost 9k each with the DJ discount on max. If this tower is spammed, it can be devastating to enemies in fallen mode.
How in earth do you drop out such quality videos in a few days? You honestly deserve more
the tips you said about the g scout are pretty helpful
Almost 400k! Keep up good work!
lol I wish it was 400k, but yessir 4k!!!!
I love the way I watch this for entertainment even though I Have no idea what they're saying.Just so entertaining keep it up!❤
Very nice cuz i remember that g soldier its trash but now is OP. Lets gooo
you make good content keep it up
Your videos are simple but at the same time very informative. One of best tds youtubers. For 10k subs face reveal?
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Keep it up👍
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U deserve more subs ngl
Keep up the good work! Idea what the best mode for the tower(s is
works great for pretty much any mode
Both are also good in hardcore, but gold soldier is better for it due to the flying detection
It is important to note that you can get faster run times with gold scout though
overall both are great
Golden soldier is op for hardcore, it allows your partners to farm till wave 13 and its better against wave 25
I'm happy to say that this is my first golden skin and I got it after the buff update happened.
My favorite TH-camr!!!
when i first got golden soldier i wasnt mad. it was the worst golden tower but it was in some way useful for farming solo fallen as it was like a cheap militant
In my opinion, the golden scout outclasses golden soldier in early game, because it can be spammed very easy and its very simple to use. Golden soldier is of course better as a backup dps if you have placed all your heavy units down, however in rare occassions where u dont need to worry about tower placement limit max golden scouts can be spammed easier and faster for dps.
Golden soldier is simply better for solo games and team games, especially fallen. In solo you can easily max your heavy towers (accel/pursuit/ranger etc.) and need to spam lighter towers towards the end. Golden soldier also has some good attributes like flying detection and better range which can really help on harder gamemodes. On the other hand, golden scout is way better for speedruns, special events and easier gamemodes. Its all because of his pure value and amazing accessibility, he's very cheap with reliable dps and can be spammed in the early game as either the main defense or support.
Overall, i think its just a matter of what gamemode are you playing. both towers are great early game defenders and have their own perks. I still prefer golden scout even after the various buffs golden soldier has received.
4:01 While they both make it to wave 7 with 600$ spent on them, 5 lvl 0 golden scouts, or 3 lvl 1 golden scouts can do just fine and you only need to spend 350-450$ on extra defense, while with soldiers you might need to get another lvl 0 soldier which costs 475$
4:13 Well, lvl 2 soldiers are way better than lvl 2 scouts but you dont necessarily have to upgrade them to lvl 2. I tend to upgrade 1 scout to lvl 3 instead. He has 13.19 dps which has OVER 3x better dps than a lvl 2 scout, while his cost is only 2.81 larger. Besides that, his dps to cost ratio is around 5.67:1000 while a lvl 2 golden soldier has
5.58:1000 dps to cost ratio. Its not much of a difference but it proves golden scouts can do just as good on waves 13-15.
Gold Soldier better in HC
@@knightmare90000first is no one grinding hardcore with g soldier bc it wasted 50k coins just for the perk
Second, everyone now have strats to win hardcore easily without any golden towers
Third,if you want to get all golden towers without pw2 just try to grind for g scout its will help you for a long time of getting g towers.
@@Myliveisnothing literally g soldier isn’t bad but it’s definitely the worst golden tower since the rest have there uses while g soldier is completely out classed by g scout and gladiator and in mid game g crook does a better job and late game ur using accel easily the worst golden tower
@@Myliveisnothing I agree Golden Scout can be better for Molten and Easy Modes as a Farm + 2 Gscout wave 1 is OP
But GSoldier is better for waves 13 and 15 in Fallen, Pizza Party, PV and Badlands
Also GSoldeir is vital in solo hardcore but there is jester nowadays so yea
But Out of the two options i perefer Golden Crook Boss
I've been using golden soldier ever since overhaul update, works extremely well on molten,im agreeing on this 1
It works extremely well in pretty much every mode
I believe the reason soldier can do as well as scout early on is the range, which golden soldier certainly has high range in comparison, plus due to its compotence in midgame and to an extent in lategame, it allows for an extra tower slot for support or dps unlike scout which does fall off massively in midgame in comparison
i'd say gold scout is better because if something sneaks past, you can place a max g scout almost instantly compared to g soldier, which costs a lot more.
Cool
If anybody wants a good idea on cash to DPS ratio, for every 1000 cash spent on a good tower you should get 5 DPS, if it is more than 6 the tower is a good DPS tower, if less than 4 it is a bad DPS tower
i will never get a gold skin but i watch these vids anyways cause they're sooo goood
also the new format looks good
Thank you!
After so many years it's happened it's finally happened
The max gold soldier is 11k whereas the max gold scout is 6k. For every 1 gold soldier is around 1.8 gold scouts. So the scout is more cost efficient as you wouldn't have enough money for 10 gold soldiers if there is 8 max accelerators, but enough for 10 gold scouts. Then again, it depends on your playstyle or strategy.
request: whats better DJ or Commander
I dont have g soldier but i do have g scout so i do this in like every fallen game
Wave 0-4 place 3 lvl 0 scouts and farm
Wave 5 place a lvl 1 scout and farm til wave 7
Wave 7 upgrade the other scouts to lvl 1 and get another lvl 1 scout and then farm til 10
Wave 10 upgrade one scout to lvl 3 and farm til 13
Wave 13 upgrade another scout to lvl 3 and set it to strongest then farm
Wave 18/17 upgrade rest of the scouts to lvl 3 and farm
Wave 20 Just get an accel or engi alr
depends on the map, i would take advantages of the curves in the map to my best, and with g soldier having more range, just the map depends
There both equally good but I agree with you! But everyone has there own opinion so I won’t try to convince you!
yeah, the difference is not huge, but the golden soldier has a few advantages
Ok so here's my personal opinion of when I would take each one of them:
Golden Soldier focuses in early and mid game and does decent in late game not to mention it has a little bit more range than G Scout, I would mainly take it for solo games, special maps like badlands II where range can be fully used and rarely for duo games
Now Golden Scout also focuses in early and mid game but it's late game damage can be pretty low, the only advantage is that G Scout can be spamed and can clear waves faster than G Soldier, I would mainly take it for duo, trio and quad games where late game damage is not a problem
Btw I made this before watching the video so I'm gonna see if we have the same opinion lol
pretty good reason ngl
i do have to agree that there is no more need for late game dps regarding duo trio and quad games, but u also mention that GS is able to be spammed more, whikh is also good for solo bekause we have 40 tower limit, just wanna point that out.
I use gscout mostly for early defence and baiting the bosses stuns
To be honest I might rather have gold scout because you can place 1 gold scout and 1 other cheap tower
Dude this video has change my mind on wich is the worse gold skin now and now i dont know wich one is worse
Yes the golden soldier is better but normal loadouts are : farm, early game tower , support, and 2 late game towers so you won't actually place 12 scouts or soldiers, if you have golden mini gunner you can replace them in the late game.
This is usually true in Quads, but in Solo you would have 2 support towers and only 1 late game tower so after placing accelerators you could probably fit in 6 or more golden soldiers.
@@jacenmeckler4725 I actually don't play quad I only play solo fallen and duo fallen and you don't need 2 supports my loadout is farm, g soldier / scout / cowboy, dj, pursuit, accel. And I beat fallen easily. Yes it works, but with the g scout I use g mini instead of pursuit because g scout has low DPS max lvl.
@@jacenmeckler4725 well, with proper farming on molten/fallen solo games i get all maxed out accels aroune waves 36-38 and there is nothing left to do but spam. on solo tower limit isnt really an issue and spamming g scouts is better than g soldiers, therefore g scout can really be better for solo
CORSO I appreciate your comparison but do not calculate golden soldier by it dps and rather calculate it via how much damage it does ever burst. If so, max golden soldier deal 120 damage withing it's to burts AND that means that 12 of them gives 1440 dps total. This is without call to arms as well. So while golden scout is better for early game, it also falls of later while 2 max golden soldier can literally handle wave 26 (Aka glitches) I MEAN BRO. 2 MAX GOLDEN SOLDIERS-- So yea I think golden soldier is better because of its better overall capabilities in mid-late game
You do be stupid as heck, soldier doesn't complete a whole burst in one second to say that he does 120 dps, dps is DAMAGE PER SECOND and soldier completes a burst in around 2.2 seconds, divide 120 burst dmg by the 2.2 second it takes and you get around 54.5 dps times 12 is around 655 dps
Could you do accelerator vs golden mini?
i do agree with the stuff that he said in this video. But i feel like golden soldier is an overkill tower and if u place golden scouts (which is cheaper) atleast u can get through the waves and golden soldier will just shred it. While costing more money. But once again, golden scout can still take out the waves while costing less money, not saying any is better tho.
Gold Scout is better for 3 simple reasons which is, it is better in the early game and nobody uses Gold Solder or Gold Scout in mid or late game because they're just not very good. Therefore unless you want to jeopardise your chances of winning by using gold solder in the mid or late game scout would be better. This is also very unrealistic, having no farms and having 12 max solders before about wave 30 (were it becomes borderline useless) is very difficult because you are mainly focusing on accel.
G soldier is very useful in hc : good dps for early, "cheap" hidden detection and flying detection
ace pilot is better
@@Spirit69caller but ace pilot can't detect early hidden ennemy
The cost to max of the golden soldier is nearly double the golden scout. 2 max golden scouts has roughly 73 dps, while 1 max golden soldier has roughly 54 dps. In my opinion, golden scout is better because how cheap it is.
Golden soldier costs almost 2 times more than a golden scout and if you get 2 max golden scouts instead of 1 max golden soldier they will do more dps ,I prefer golden scout because its so easy to spam him.
Its better if u get the golden soldier instead of golden scout because its also very effective in mid to late game. Both are very good towers but I think that g soldier is now better than g scout overall.
it the fact golden scout was perfectly balance for early game such doing pizza party who agrees? i also think that what people use golden scout or golden soldier it all ur thing choice to uses!
Wave 1-6 lvl 1 soldier
Then lvl2 and at round 10 i get another lvl 2 at like wave 14 i have lvl 3 all farms so i get accels by then.
also it can shoots air so great for hardcore grind
If you do an overall comparison like this guy then Golden Soldier takes the edge but in all practicality, Golden Scout is just better. Its wrong to say they are about the same in the early game because the Gscout has better DPS/cost and a lower cost denominator meaning its more likely you can afford them quicker instead of having to save. With Gscouts you can also just buy 1-2 before the game and get earlier farms while only losing a few lives, but snowballing your money which is not an option for Gsoldier
But it wouldn't be so correct to say that they are different because they are early game towers, and basically in the end when you have better defenses they will leave, their costs are almost the same xd
bro did the documentary of golden towerrs in tds
Its really shocking how golden soldier went from a disappointment to something so versatile and useful anyways here are my opinion about both of them based on my experience
Golden Soldier is Really good for hardcore when paired with something like pyro giving you time to farm + you said you need 4 soldiers for Shadows, however in good maps like crossroads or something with a long bend that utilizes the golden soldier range to its full potential, you only need 2 for wave 13 and 3 for wave 15. Golden soldier is just generally better.
Gso Still has his flaws like being outclassed by Electro,Ace and Pursuit in Pizza Party
Golden Scout despite being a lot less powerful still has some uses like Lost Souls, Quickdraw, PW2 and Speedrunning. His cheap cost also comes into play which makes him easy to spam (although i dont recommend spamming him). His main use is being a cheap early defense, A great choice nonetheless.
Gso doesn't get outclassed by electro and pursuit, electro is a late game tower, and pursuit is extremely unreliable, has no hidden, and can't be used early, theres no comparison between gso and pursuit at all
Their best thing
Scout:Early defend
Soldier:little bit Worse early defend than scout but flight detection
But i prefer gladi-
5:50 btw agree
Golden Scout is better for games that are significantly lacking in money like trio hardcore. If you are attempting duo hc, or even solo, golden soldier might be a better choice.
In conclusion, golden scout is a lot cheaper than the golden soldier, consider wave 25 on hc mode, only 3 golden scouts are required if you wanna take down 3 shadow bosses. That means golden scout might be a solution when it comes to economic problems.
gsoldier: better for overall defense/casual play, due to more utility in late game and also in other gamemodes like hc and pizza party due to flying detection
gscout: better for speedrunning things like quickdraw and very early defense
Imo u should also show how far both towers get with farm just to see the final difference in dps
Yk what? I think I should try that for you. Gonna use marshlands for molten and see how fast I can win
Gonna use 8 farm, 1 dj, 2 commanders, 1 medic, [golden tower]
(Wave 40: 1 dj, 2 commanders, 1 medic, 36 goldens)
@@hamstermuncher6688 ok
I agree. Soilder, flying detection.
For pw2 early defense I’d say that g scout is better but if you are carrying someone I’d say g soldier is better because higher damage
good points but you mention that 2 maxed golden scouts are better than one golden soldier and they cost less
Can you do a 2024 update
Can you do golden soldier vs militants
What abt the lead detection and the soldier also have flying detection which is good
Let’s goo I got it from my first golden crate I’m pro
Question, is it better to wait for a specific golden tower in the daily shop(cost more coins) or is it better to buy the golden crate?
if ur tryna get all gold skins or dont really want a specific skin, then crate is better
if you wanna get that specific skin tho buy from daily shop to avoid rng
Nice video
well I’d say g scout cuz like it’s cheaper and you probably won’t get much of them before placing idk heavy dps towers?
Both are betterr except speedrunning but i want Goldier to have a upgrade reduced Burst Cooldown
Who rly need g soldier for late game when have accel engi or just turret ranger
im just gonna say this, golden soldier on molten is INSANE i can farm and max out all of my farms and only get down 4 solders and max them out very good for grinding coins imo
To be fair no matter what the crate costs 50,000 coins for like +1 damage and if you want to buy the coins with robux it’s going to cost 4,250-4,500 my point is some times good things are nice yet anoying to get
I think g scout is better bc sense you can place 3 of them it can be used for dual lane maps
well theres one more variable to consider when comparing these two towers, commander.
gold soldier doesn't get a big buff from commander because commander does not shorten the time of the burst, it gets 64 dps at max with commander
gold scout gets 55 dps with commander at max, and for much less.
also for shadows use a lvl 3 gscout not lvl 2 spam lvl 3 defends w13 for a thousand less than what 4 lvl 2 gscouts would cost
Gsol burst interval actually gets decreased, it's just not visually shown
@@hyurinnagata1616 just checked with some people the wikis lying about that
@@brokenemp9968 fr? I need to check that again because i swear I've seen the dmg counter going up when he's not attacking
that’s interesting, thanks for pointing that out 👍
@@hyurinnagata1616 what the actual bug is is that the animation for gso cuts off when the enemy it started shooting dies, but it keeps doing damage to the next enemy
g soldier underrated now
for me the cheapest hidden detection is 2 level 2 elf camp
also 1:05 there is a spelling error
Also g soldier is your best friend grinding for engi
golden soldier was worst mainly because of his burst not finishing when u kill an enemy, meaning you have to wait for cd alot longer, good thing they fixed that. now one of the best g towers lol
Golden scout are just very good in speedrun
The Gold Soldier the a bug to its skin where it didn’t fully zip his suit ☠️
The fun fact is that I soloed fallen using only one early game tower, the golden soldier in the U-turn map
Loadout
Farm, Commander, DJ, Golden Soldier, Accelerator
I wouldn't say there is a strat to this, because I soloed fallen without a strat I searched up with these loadouts, so it's possible while doing a mental strat.
accel carried
@@theonewhocaredandasked9126 well obviously
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5:36 couldnt help but notice you said golden scout instead of golden soldier (sorry)
guess im not scared to get soldier anymore
hey can you play this game pls its named goofy tower defense by the name of it you could ulready understand that there will be towers like balller and all of thatr which is kind of rare that anybody does a meme td game so try it out idk i liked it
both of the g towers are good for early but g soldier is more usefull for other maps like hc
FINALLY SOMEONE THAT AGREES WITH ME PEOPLE SAY G SCOUT BECAUSE ITS CHEAPER BUT IDC G SOLDIER STILL HAS MORE DPS (sry for shouting)
I got the golden soldier first golden crate.
Gold soldier is good at 10-20 while gold scout is good at wave 1-10 and if you have gold towers you probably will farm heavily so gold soldier is probably a bit better in the long run
gold scout and soldier are good till like 29
Wow golden soldier :)
Golden scout is still better for spending and needed in different strategies such as quickdraw
for me, golden soldier is by far a lot better, me and my buddy used it in hardcore to handle the early hiddens and balloons, so for me golden soldier is the better choice
But you don't have to place all 3 golden scouts in the early game a single golden scout can beat wave one and you can buy a farm and just keep farming and place another golden scout untill you need more. You can both get a g scout and a farm on the first wave and still have 200 left
True gscout is better (my opinion)
@@ericevans1196what the fuck is true gscout
G Scout use:farm a lot,Early game (like wave 1-17 fallen mode) use your's mid-late game towers and goodbye scout.
G Soldier use:farm, early-mid (like wave 1-19 fallen mode) use your's late game towers and goodbye soldier
Solo player: 🙃
O soldado golden tinha sido minha primeira torre dourada não fiquei feliz no começo mais despois eu percebi seu pontecial e hoje eu amo claro o scout támbem
G scout better I think because with him and with G minigunner you can win in lost souls. And after 1 update the G soldier became more better than scout
I no longer feel bad about getting soldier in my fifth golden crate
I think golden scout is better for early-mid game, because of its incredible cheap price with nice DPS, while the golden soldier is better for mid-late game as it had a good DPS and decent price, and could handle hidden enemies very easily. Overall, both of them are really good towers tho.
Comparing max Dps just aint fair due to the much higher cost of golden soldier. Max level Dps per $1000 for golden scout is better aswell meaning the comparison isn't equal.
For grinding + speedrunning scout takes the win. However if that isn’t the case then its soldier
I said to myself its ok if golden soldier is better but i still like using golden scout than soldier