I found that the best lighting to shoot with the latest Quattro foveon camera is either to shoot in neutral light (overcast weather) with similar contrast between the subject and the background or during near golden light times when the colors are very strong. I shot my kids portraits in south of France at 7pm on the beach, rusted ships just before the sunset and the shots look even better then 6x7 velvia slide film
I have this camera and absolutely love it. Unlike like any other shooting experience and results. This camera is a classic in the making and will have a bright future in the hands of collectors in the future..
Your excitement and joy using these old cameras is dangerously addictive and intoxicating. My wallet punches me in the kidneys every time I watch one of your videos.
I have the quattro DP1, also with the LCD viewer hood. Got a great price for it here in Germany largely because no one buys it. It's quirky but if you spend some time with it, it just makes sense as a serious camera for the serious photographer. Here's the thing: I set my preferences for the three custom options and move between those: i) 21:9 monochrome; ii) 1:1 colour (thinking I would use this for Instagram): iii) x3i Format, i.e. the huge sized files I vaguely understood. The 21:9 was manual, the 1:1 was programme, the X3i format was aperature priority. The X3i is basicly a seven-frame HDR image and are huge (300mb+). I took the camera on its maiden trip to Iceland, where it generated stunning images, but preferred to live on a tripod with heavy ND filters shooting long time exposures. My other geatr is m4/3, so the larger sensor is neat. The native B&W is to die for, reminds me of Adox KB14 in Rodinal 1:100...smooth tones doesn't begin to describe it. I also used it for time-lapse work, running generally 100 images at 3 second intervals of the dynamic iceland clounds. That said: I wish I had the dp0 rather than the dp1, as I think this is a sensor/camera that lives well with wide wide angles for the drama, rather than the slight wide angle you had. The dp3 might be interesting for portraits (and it focusses closer). Love the camera, keeping it, but it takes skill to use well. Well done images your side! 🙂
@@OneMonthTwoCameras :-) The downside of using 21:9 format for time lapse was finding software that would process it. I couldn't, 16:9 is doable, but 21:9: you got black borders top and bottom...
I also own a 2Q which I'd say is a truly unique camera in many ways. Considering the fact that it came out to the market 8 years ago and has never been a well known camera, it's a pleasant surprise for me to see your video about this camera shot just a few months ago.
We have the same photo artistic appreciations it seems, glad to have found your channel ^__^ I get to discover new things too. I get my best pictures with my Sigma DP Merrills (Over Canon, Fujifilm, Sony APS-C / FF), I've done street, landscapes, macro, and travel photography with them, and carry the DP2 with me most of the time). I don't like the Sigma foveon sensor for portraits (Canon 5D Classic I/II or a Fujifilm XT100 S/T outshines is better for people). I also have a external loupe evf like the one you have for the quatro (for super sunny days or high altitudes). Manual focusing is great on both systems (Merrill and Quattro). Autofocus same, faster on Quattro (not in dusk or indoors, but fine, set autofocus point to larger setting) ISO as low as I can get it to avoid color noise 100-160-200 max. ((better work at 100, and choose according time of day / light circumstances, with the quattros you can go up to 400 / maybe higher if black and white). The lenses on these systems are super sharp. Sharp wide open at F2.8 on the DP2 and better at F5.6, but even at F2.8 very sharp. I import in Photopro 6 on by one, export as TiFF 16 bit, and then process in Photoshop, saves a 8 bit TIFF or JPG. The Quattro's are a trade off compared to the Merrills, you loose some microconstrast resolution, some color depth, you get some speed, beter ISO and dynamic range in return (and battery life!). JPGS are MUCH better. And you have DNG support. The SD, I want one (they are discontinued) , but you need ART lenses to benefit from the sensor, which can make it a very expensive combo (for such a unique niche system). I also have the Sigma SD10, that's a different beast all together, Bought it for 90 euro (+ 2 kit lenses) but darn, yeah you do it for the sensor, but that camera is experimental , people complaining about the DP/SD/Quatro camera's shouldn't even bother to look at the SD9/10/14/15 :-) ... you can't push the shadows in any way, 20-30 shots per 4xAA battery load (takes 6 HOURS to charges), the lenses available poor, at least with the DP1/2/Merrill/Quattro you have beautiful matching sharp lenses, and on the SD you can buy beautiful ART glass etc,) Anyway I love 80% of the files I get with these Sigma cameras, very Nikon D810 D850 like files (but different, it takes some time to learn the strenghts and weaknesses of the sensor and how to edit the files best), unique (just need to be careful with blowing out magentas and yellows, and you need to watch out for shadow/color noise) but every camera is unique and has its quirks... ps Just bought an Olympus E300 with 2 entry kit lenses and a Canon Powershot Pro1 to play with some CCD magic ^^ (after watching your vid the other day) Thanks for your inspiration.
OH man we are birds of a feather! I feel like this amazing comment could be a page from my journal in terms of things I love and feelings about particular cameras. Thank you so much for sharing!
OMG I just realized we actually chatted on Instagram before !😆😆 we were talking about the dp3q and the same dress our daughters has. What a pleasure to meet you here! Huge fan of your shooting style! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The look and feel of those pictures are sooo nice! Funny thing is that in the last few days I was playing with the thought of getting the dp2q including the viewfinder. Now I know what to do! This will be my secondary camera, after my Fuji. Thanks for your video. Much appreciated!
Great video. I've owned the DP2Q in the past but ended up choosing the older DP1/2/3 Merrill edition. The Quattros blow highlights really easily I found. But I really like their color rendition. I think the Merrills also have the most filmic look I've ever come across, like no other digital camera I've owned. But in scenes/subjects with bright light and colors the Quattro look is superb. Almost want to own both versions...
Cool, glad to know I'm not the only one who has struggled with Sigma - haha. Although it does look like this camera is much faster. My SD14 is pretty dang slow. The look with the hood and viewfinder screen hood thingy is dope! And grats on the 35ti! That's such a cool looking camera! I have looked at pocket 35mm cameras in the past but I've only used one, my minolta p's panorama camera which was cool but quirky. Looking forward to the images!
Thanks I'm super excited by the 35ti. These Sigmas are definitely a trip. I seem to have a masochistic need to keep working them to see if I can unlock the magic of one guy who used to blog about them in 2014 as his images seem so good. Haven't quite got there yet but keep trying.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras I would love to see that blog if its still available. I have the sdQuattro and as everyone else..still learning Got mine in October.
Great video (once again and it’s so cool to see this channel grow). I loved the look of the Foveon sensor on an OG DP2 I had but I hated using it. If sigma brought out a compact foveon APSC camera with L Mount that would be awesome since Leica seem uninterested in a CL2. For the record - I like the talking head haha. Shows your enthusiasm and engagement to the viewer. At the risk of sounding like an arse (if you want feedback) - I think it would be cool to talk about the specifics of some select photos. For example why you took it in a certain way, what you wanted to achieve and how the camera helped (or didn’t) in taking them. This would be a nice addition as well as the current “show reel” of several more samples on your two weeks using it. Hope that didn’t sound rude - it’s your channel and I still really enjoy what you do here. Take care
I love that Paul and I so truly appreciate the feedback! It's great to hear how the viewing experience is since I am in the black hole of talking and editing that I can't always see the forest for the trees :)
@@OneMonthTwoCameras great - glad I didn’t sound rude as that’s the last thing I’d want - and online in writing sometimes meaning can be misinterpreted. I have crazy respect for you putting yourself online like this. Def something I wouldn’t do as I’d be too shy. Plus no one wants to hear my Northern Irish accent haha
Great video, I feel your pain and love for this camera. Having purchased the the DP2Q late last year I'm now looking at the DP0 or DP1Q. If you don't like X3F editing in PhotoPro, Sigma did release a Photoshop plugin. It works well, but doesn't offer the 16bit TIFF HQ output PhotoPro offers.
Thank you for the tip! I had heard about that plugin and totally forgot to mention it. The DP2Q sent me deep down the rabbit hole and I'm now Foveon obsessed and basically live in SPP. I've come to love it :P
love the new voice-over format. please make it a regular thing. it would be nice if you could give us a a few more seconds to look at each photo though. i found myself going back and pausing the vid a couple of times to get a closer look at a some of the images. can't wait for the 35ti vid. :))
I just got my Sigma DP2Q working again after many months. My trusty LX100 has been my daily camera for years and I love it. But damn, the detail and color richness of the Sigma smack you upside the head, don't they? And duuuuude -- have you not tried SFD mode? I didn't understand it at first, I'll confess. If you have skipped it may I suggest trying it on your H. This is a mode for hero shots with challenging dynamics. You ain't seen nothin' yet in terms of processing times, but OMG when it hooks up! Aloha and thanks for your great videos and lovely shots!
Outside of price difference? Does this render the same colours as the Merrill series? Does it solve the sluggishness and the low ISO limitations of the merrills?
I absolutely love this camera. I tend to be a very slow and methodical shooter & it fits me perfectly. Thought you’re totally right about the white balance. It can be so wacky. I had mine stolen during a burglary a few months ago. Been saving up to get it again, can’t wait to have to have it back
I am like you. I have become more and more in love with that slower process and have really come around to SPP. Sorry to hear yours was stolen and hope you get one back in the near future!
Great video (as a new subscriber!) and really, really enjoyed your photos with that camera. I'm not sure if it's because of the way you edited them, but they certainly do have a medium format type of look. The colors are really wonderful and the moments of light you're able to capture are really nice. So, given the editing frustrations and weird body design - would you keep shooting this camera just for the output it gives?
Thank you for the lovely comment. In a word, absolutely. Frustrations are sometime a welcome limitation and in this case, I’m actually really hooked on these cameras.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras ya, I miss seeing the expression on your face when you are delighted and frustrated. I am sure you will find a happy mix where everyone is content.
I own the DP3Q and it is a brilliant camera. Beautiful output. I don't use auto ISO on overcast days. Have to use the lvf on sunny days for precise framing/composition. I have a 12 core CPU and workstation GPU that laughs at SPP so no issue for me. I recommend users to go through the SPP help file, software is very capable.
I have the DP0 quattro (with a 14mm, a.k.a. 21mm, lens). It still turns heads, especially when used with the viewfinder attachment. I also have the DP1 Merrill and the DP3 Merrill, and I think I like those older ones a little better. I practically only shoot b&w with those cameras, btw. And yes, Affinity Photo supports the X3F files, a (small) part of the reason, why I use this software (main part is that I don't want to pay yearly subscriptions). For the past years I more or less completely switched to analog medium and large format photography, though. So my Sigma's now live more or less exclusively on the shelf.
Nice review. I have the SD14 and I have the same feelings regarding slow operations and post processing. But that 'unique' look is worth the pain - these Foveon cameras are not for everyone, especially for a SOOC upload to internet crowd. Don't mind the talking head, maybe you can do a split screen?
I’ve been wanting a landscape camera for a while. The Dp0 may be the answer for me. I was looking at a linhof and the famous xpan but I find the dp0 with the best color rendition. I agree that it takes a few tries of the same shot to get it right but when it hits it flipping hits! I also love the jpegs that come out of the camera when I don’t want to deal with the native file ha.
Great video! I'm a proud owner of a DP1Q and SDQ and after many hours of frustrations I found the Auto white balance is not the greatest in certain situations. I use the white balance presets sun/cloud etc or custom white balance. I also use standard colour profile and always expose to the right using the histogram to protect the highlights as the metering can overexpose in high contrast situations. Doing this made the post processing much quicker and easier. I just fine tune exposure and I'm done! Hope this helps :)
I'm totally with you. I think setting the white balance in camera pretty much saves the post workflow a great deal of pain. How do you like your SDQ? I have my eyes on one now :P
Great to see this video. I own the same camera and I am not using it enough because I own an old Imac that cannot run Sigmas software without driving me insane.. :) Please can you elaborate a bit about what is so wrong about the DNG files?
It's truly such a great camera and I have actually come to fall in love with Sigma Photo Pro if you can believe that. Slow, clunky but wow it can really do great things with the X3F. I just couldn't seem to reproduce the same thing with the DNG in Lightroom - the colors and shadows would block up. I have heard a lot of people have no issue with it so maybe I just haven't spent enough time trying. But again I've really come around on SPP so it's not an issue but I do think about the day when they perhaps stop supporting the software development and then it is absolutely clutch to have the DNG option.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras I am using Capture One and the DNG is SO convenient. Then I read all these more clever than me people saying that it is not so good and then I feel as if I am missing out on something.. :)
I find the dynamic range in the DNG files quite impressing. But the white balance can be a bit tricky. I guess that is the camera and not hte file. I tried to do some comparing of DNG vs X3F regarding the noise levels once, but that Sigma software made me feel like throwing out the camera.. :)
Love these cameras so much I ended up owning the SD Quattro, all the dp Merrill and the Quattro series. Usually walk around with the dp0. There's a photoshop plugin from adobe that allows for you to edit the x3f natively. Though I do prefer SPP with the Quattro you can do in camera editing which can help on the fly and just use the jpg. IQ well worth the quirks
I feel like I’m well on my way collecting in the same fashion. Absolutely love the outcome and the quirks are weirdly endearing and make me feel like I’ve earned the shot when I get it :)
Oh yes. I lovehate my merrills. They eat so many batteries a day as i used 24 shot films in the 80s. The display is a pain to view in bright light so i use a similar viewfinder like you. But i want a tilting EVF or at least a tilt display that is up to date. I hope for the coming full frame Foveon camera they do a collaboration with C1. SPP is so slow to work with. At least a lot of pain to work with that cameras but i love the look of the pictures. It is not for dimm light.And shooting in the sun makes funny artefacts but under normal conditions the pictures shine…
Affinity does read my Merrill files but I can’t get the quality I get from Photo pro so there’s no point. Really love the foveon results, well worth the effort.
PS - By the way the way to work with the camera's native RAW files is Photoshop directly! Just install Sigma's free Photoshop plug-in and open the native RAWs for editing directly!
I have heard about the camera, yet It seemed like a lot of fuss for the money. I ended up with the Pentax k1Mk2,which is as slow, yet also another composition winner. I might take a peek at some point, since I am so ready to have something different. I also bought the Sony VZ-1 and the E10 and I love those little monsters.
They’re crazy capable! Still need to sit down with the ZV1 and really look at it. The menus overwhelm me; I wish they had Sony’s latest. Really want to try the Pentax K1 line someday!
@@OneMonthTwoCameras My Pentax is for when I want to do critical, serious work, and want that one lens, in camera mastery. You do have to have the space and interest to carry it because it's a cinderblock. I took it with me to New Orleans when I first got it, and ended up shooting a family reunion, with no flash, no tripod, kits lens, and it rocked. It taught me to work with limits and under pressure, and aside from that I just went crazy shooting in the Quarter. Now I have the Sony VZ1 and the Sony e10, which do take time to figure out, yet they are amazing. I top those off with a Canon A2e film camera which from what I understand is the first film camera with eye AF.
it’s sooo much faster to install the SPP plugin for photoshop, and almost instantly import to TIFF and then edit from there, in ACR or lightroom. It’s massively faster on the M1 specifically! The toil is indeed real but it cuts this down by like 80%
So interesting- I have tried the plug-in for photoshop but I didn’t find it dramatically faster and if you can believe it, I’ve kind of fallen in love with SPP these days so while it’s slow, it really doesn’t bother me anymore 😂
@@OneMonthTwoCameras the files that come out of the SDQ are astonishing… I ended up selling it and going to Sony as my society were sponsored by Zeiss and the lenses wouldn’t fit the sigma lol
@@OneMonthTwoCameras1 month in I love it. Managed to get the dp1 with the evf. I love the way you use it- trust the histogram then get home, swap sd cards and have a look in Sigma Pro. It feels like working with a film camera.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras @One Month Two Cameras .... I have to admit to not watching the video all the way through first time. I have 2 suggestions for an old camera review, and these are the Ricoh GXR, and the Sigma SD Quattro (APC-H) with option to shoot in a 21:9 aspect ratio, which is close to the Xpan format that you love so much.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras ... I think Andrew & Denae have covered the Sigma Quattro SD H in a panoramic street photo duel (#37), and maybe worth watching. Xpan alternatives : th-cam.com/video/GMBYDvMV6iY/w-d-xo.html Quattro challenge: th-cam.com/video/f6gNSul33b0/w-d-xo.html
I'd say I'm an experienced photographer, even though I haven't been shooting for 40 years or so, but I know my way around. I got an Sigma DP2 - the OG one, I loved the brutalist design, and rarely I had some good results, but albeit it was extremely frustrating working with it. Hard to nail focus, non existing battery life (be happy to get 30 shots out of one battery). Put it back on the shelf. I also got a dp1 merill, who is - in terms of sharpness and detail - way better than my recently sold 5d mk3, but offers en equally frustrating experience. To be honest, I never had a camera that frustrated me that much
Haha, yes the cameras are frustrating, but they also reward you with beautiful shots. You must take at least 5 batteries with you. I see a battery like a 24er film and only look at the pictures at home on the computer and not on the display on the go. Otherwise you need more batteries…
@@fightsportsworldwide9776 Yes patience is what you need for that kind of cameras. I see the camera as an old film camera loaded with a 24er 100 ISO film.
This is by far my new favorite photography channel. Picking up a Fuji S5 for film scanning after binging your videos. Must appease the GAS
HA! Thank you so much and welcome to the old camera club!!
I found that the best lighting to shoot with the latest Quattro foveon camera is either to shoot in neutral light (overcast weather) with similar contrast between the subject and the background or during near golden light times when the colors are very strong. I shot my kids portraits in south of France at 7pm on the beach, rusted ships just before the sunset and the shots look even better then 6x7 velvia slide film
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I have this camera and absolutely love it. Unlike like any other shooting experience and results. This camera is a classic in the making and will have a bright future in the hands of collectors in the future..
Absolutely agree. These foveons are in a league of their own.
Your excitement and joy using these old cameras is dangerously addictive and intoxicating. My wallet punches me in the kidneys every time I watch one of your videos.
Hahaha! Soooooorry!!! :)
I have the quattro DP1, also with the LCD viewer hood. Got a great price for it here in Germany largely because no one buys it. It's quirky but if you spend some time with it, it just makes sense as a serious camera for the serious photographer. Here's the thing: I set my preferences for the three custom options and move between those: i) 21:9 monochrome; ii) 1:1 colour (thinking I would use this for Instagram): iii) x3i Format, i.e. the huge sized files I vaguely understood. The 21:9 was manual, the 1:1 was programme, the X3i format was aperature priority. The X3i is basicly a seven-frame HDR image and are huge (300mb+). I took the camera on its maiden trip to Iceland, where it generated stunning images, but preferred to live on a tripod with heavy ND filters shooting long time exposures. My other geatr is m4/3, so the larger sensor is neat. The native B&W is to die for, reminds me of Adox KB14 in Rodinal 1:100...smooth tones doesn't begin to describe it. I also used it for time-lapse work, running generally 100 images at 3 second intervals of the dynamic iceland clounds. That said: I wish I had the dp0 rather than the dp1, as I think this is a sensor/camera that lives well with wide wide angles for the drama, rather than the slight wide angle you had. The dp3 might be interesting for portraits (and it focusses closer). Love the camera, keeping it, but it takes skill to use well. Well done images your side! 🙂
This is my favorite kind of comment! I absolutely love all this detail and will give these a go on my bodies as well!
@@OneMonthTwoCameras :-) The downside of using 21:9 format for time lapse was finding software that would process it. I couldn't, 16:9 is doable, but 21:9: you got black borders top and bottom...
I also own a 2Q which I'd say is a truly unique camera in many ways. Considering the fact that it came out to the market 8 years ago and has never been a well known camera, it's a pleasant surprise for me to see your video about this camera shot just a few months ago.
I just love these cameras. Holding on tightly to mine :)
Such a lovely gesture from your neighbour. I hope you were able to show them your lovely images with that camera.
Definitely. Beyond generous.
We have the same photo artistic appreciations it seems, glad to have found your channel ^__^ I get to discover new things too.
I get my best pictures with my Sigma DP Merrills (Over Canon, Fujifilm, Sony APS-C / FF), I've done street, landscapes, macro, and travel photography with them, and carry the DP2 with me most of the time). I don't like the Sigma foveon sensor for portraits (Canon 5D Classic I/II or a Fujifilm XT100 S/T outshines is better for people). I also have a external loupe evf like the one you have for the quatro (for super sunny days or high altitudes). Manual focusing is great on both systems (Merrill and Quattro). Autofocus same, faster on Quattro (not in dusk or indoors, but fine, set autofocus point to larger setting) ISO as low as I can get it to avoid color noise 100-160-200 max. ((better work at 100, and choose according time of day / light circumstances, with the quattros you can go up to 400 / maybe higher if black and white). The lenses on these systems are super sharp. Sharp wide open at F2.8 on the DP2 and better at F5.6, but even at F2.8 very sharp. I import in Photopro 6 on by one, export as TiFF 16 bit, and then process in Photoshop, saves a 8 bit TIFF or JPG. The Quattro's are a trade off compared to the Merrills, you loose some microconstrast resolution, some color depth, you get some speed, beter ISO and dynamic range in return (and battery life!). JPGS are MUCH better. And you have DNG support. The SD, I want one (they are discontinued) , but you need ART lenses to benefit from the sensor, which can make it a very expensive combo (for such a unique niche system). I also have the Sigma SD10, that's a different beast all together, Bought it for 90 euro (+ 2 kit lenses) but darn, yeah you do it for the sensor, but that camera is experimental , people complaining about the DP/SD/Quatro camera's shouldn't even bother to look at the SD9/10/14/15 :-) ... you can't push the shadows in any way, 20-30 shots per 4xAA battery load (takes 6 HOURS to charges), the lenses available poor, at least with the DP1/2/Merrill/Quattro you have beautiful matching sharp lenses, and on the SD you can buy beautiful ART glass etc,) Anyway I love 80% of the files I get with these Sigma cameras, very Nikon D810 D850 like files (but different, it takes some time to learn the strenghts and weaknesses of the sensor and how to edit the files best), unique (just need to be careful with blowing out magentas and yellows, and you need to watch out for shadow/color noise) but every camera is unique and has its quirks... ps Just bought an Olympus E300 with 2 entry kit lenses and a Canon Powershot Pro1 to play with some CCD magic ^^ (after watching your vid the other day) Thanks for your inspiration.
OH man we are birds of a feather! I feel like this amazing comment could be a page from my journal in terms of things I love and feelings about particular cameras. Thank you so much for sharing!
OMG I just realized we actually chatted on Instagram before !😆😆 we were talking about the dp3q and the same dress our daughters has. What a pleasure to meet you here! Huge fan of your shooting style! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
AHHHH!!! Wow that is too wild! I totally remember you. Hi!
The look and feel of those pictures are sooo nice! Funny thing is that in the last few days I was playing with the thought of getting the dp2q including the viewfinder. Now I know what to do! This will be my secondary camera, after my Fuji. Thanks for your video. Much appreciated!
That is awesome! I think it will be a perfect compliment!
Great video. I've owned the DP2Q in the past but ended up choosing the older DP1/2/3 Merrill edition. The Quattros blow highlights really easily I found. But I really like their color rendition. I think the Merrills also have the most filmic look I've ever come across, like no other digital camera I've owned. But in scenes/subjects with bright light and colors the Quattro look is superb. Almost want to own both versions...
Fascinating! Thank you for sharing. I agree there is something unique to each the Merrill and Quattro and I love them both.
Cool, glad to know I'm not the only one who has struggled with Sigma - haha. Although it does look like this camera is much faster. My SD14 is pretty dang slow. The look with the hood and viewfinder screen hood thingy is dope! And grats on the 35ti! That's such a cool looking camera! I have looked at pocket 35mm cameras in the past but I've only used one, my minolta p's panorama camera which was cool but quirky. Looking forward to the images!
Thanks I'm super excited by the 35ti. These Sigmas are definitely a trip. I seem to have a masochistic need to keep working them to see if I can unlock the magic of one guy who used to blog about them in 2014 as his images seem so good. Haven't quite got there yet but keep trying.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras I would love to see that blog if its still available. I have the sdQuattro and as everyone else..still learning
Got mine in October.
Great video (once again and it’s so cool to see this channel grow). I loved the look of the Foveon sensor on an OG DP2 I had but I hated using it. If sigma brought out a compact foveon APSC camera with L Mount that would be awesome since Leica seem uninterested in a CL2.
For the record - I like the talking head haha. Shows your enthusiasm and engagement to the viewer. At the risk of sounding like an arse (if you want feedback) - I think it would be cool to talk about the specifics of some select photos. For example why you took it in a certain way, what you wanted to achieve and how the camera helped (or didn’t) in taking them. This would be a nice addition as well as the current “show reel” of several more samples on your two weeks using it. Hope that didn’t sound rude - it’s your channel and I still really enjoy what you do here. Take care
I love that Paul and I so truly appreciate the feedback! It's great to hear how the viewing experience is since I am in the black hole of talking and editing that I can't always see the forest for the trees :)
@@OneMonthTwoCameras great - glad I didn’t sound rude as that’s the last thing I’d want - and online in writing sometimes meaning can be misinterpreted.
I have crazy respect for you putting yourself online like this. Def something I wouldn’t do as I’d be too shy. Plus no one wants to hear my Northern Irish accent haha
@@paulanderson24 You're wrong about the accent; everyone loves a good lilt. I'll patiently await your first video! :)
Great video, I feel your pain and love for this camera. Having purchased the the DP2Q late last year I'm now looking at the DP0 or DP1Q. If you don't like X3F editing in PhotoPro, Sigma did release a Photoshop plugin. It works well, but doesn't offer the 16bit TIFF HQ output PhotoPro offers.
Thank you for the tip! I had heard about that plugin and totally forgot to mention it. The DP2Q sent me deep down the rabbit hole and I'm now Foveon obsessed and basically live in SPP. I've come to love it :P
love the new voice-over format. please make it a regular thing.
it would be nice if you could give us a a few more seconds to look at each photo though. i found myself going back and pausing the vid a couple of times to get a closer look at a some of the images.
can't wait for the 35ti vid. :))
Thank you that is super helpful to hear!
I just got my Sigma DP2Q working again after many months. My trusty LX100 has been my daily camera for years and I love it. But damn, the detail and color richness of the Sigma smack you upside the head, don't they? And duuuuude -- have you not tried SFD mode? I didn't understand it at first, I'll confess. If you have skipped it may I suggest trying it on your H. This is a mode for hero shots with challenging dynamics. You ain't seen nothin' yet in terms of processing times, but OMG when it hooks up! Aloha and thanks for your great videos and lovely shots!
Love your channel and the formats of your videos
Thank you! I so appreciate that.
Outside of price difference? Does this render the same colours as the Merrill series? Does it solve the sluggishness and the low ISO limitations of the merrills?
Can the finder attachment be used on the as Quattro as well?
I absolutely love this camera. I tend to be a very slow and methodical shooter & it fits me perfectly. Thought you’re totally right about the white balance. It can be so wacky. I had mine stolen during a burglary a few months ago. Been saving up to get it again, can’t wait to have to have it back
I am like you. I have become more and more in love with that slower process and have really come around to SPP. Sorry to hear yours was stolen and hope you get one back in the near future!
Great video (as a new subscriber!) and really, really enjoyed your photos with that camera. I'm not sure if it's because of the way you edited them, but they certainly do have a medium format type of look. The colors are really wonderful and the moments of light you're able to capture are really nice.
So, given the editing frustrations and weird body design - would you keep shooting this camera just for the output it gives?
Thank you for the lovely comment. In a word, absolutely. Frustrations are sometime a welcome limitation and in this case, I’m actually really hooked on these cameras.
I was just about to say that the talking head is absolutely fine! but i see someone has already beaten me to it :P
Ha! Glad to hear it!!
It's fine that you mix it up and you don't take yourself too seriously, and the content is great so the form doesn't really matter that much :-)
@@OneMonthTwoCameras ya, I miss seeing the expression on your face when you are delighted and frustrated. I am sure you will find a happy mix where everyone is content.
@@kmcsmart thank you!
I own the DP3Q and it is a brilliant camera. Beautiful output. I don't use auto ISO on overcast days. Have to use the lvf on sunny days for precise framing/composition. I have a 12 core CPU and workstation GPU that laughs at SPP so no issue for me. I recommend users to go through the SPP help file, software is very capable.
I love SPP. It's really grown on my. I hope to add a DP3Q to my collection someday :)
I have the DP0 quattro (with a 14mm, a.k.a. 21mm, lens). It still turns heads, especially when used with the viewfinder attachment. I also have the DP1 Merrill and the DP3 Merrill, and I think I like those older ones a little better. I practically only shoot b&w with those cameras, btw. And yes, Affinity Photo supports the X3F files, a (small) part of the reason, why I use this software (main part is that I don't want to pay yearly subscriptions).
For the past years I more or less completely switched to analog medium and large format photography, though. So my Sigma's now live more or less exclusively on the shelf.
Nice review. I have the SD14 and I have the same feelings regarding slow operations and post processing. But that 'unique' look is worth the pain - these Foveon cameras are not for everyone, especially for a SOOC upload to internet crowd.
Don't mind the talking head, maybe you can do a split screen?
Thanks for sharing and really helpful feedback on the format. Yeah these Foveons are finicky but I am now beyond hooked.
I’ve been wanting a landscape camera for a while. The Dp0 may be the answer for me. I was looking at a linhof and the famous xpan but I find the dp0 with the best color rendition. I agree that it takes a few tries of the same shot to get it right but when it hits it flipping hits! I also love the jpegs that come out of the camera when I don’t want to deal with the native file ha.
Love the new format with more pictures!
Thank you!
Great video! I'm a proud owner of a DP1Q and SDQ and after many hours of frustrations I found the Auto white balance is not the greatest in certain situations. I use the white balance presets sun/cloud etc or custom white balance. I also use standard colour profile and always expose to the right using the histogram to protect the highlights as the metering can overexpose in high contrast situations. Doing this made the post processing much quicker and easier. I just fine tune exposure and I'm done! Hope this helps :)
I'm totally with you. I think setting the white balance in camera pretty much saves the post workflow a great deal of pain. How do you like your SDQ? I have my eyes on one now :P
@@OneMonthTwoCameras I love it!!
@@imac3355 I've been eyeing the sdq. Does that have 6x9 aspect ratio ?
Loving your channel. I was happy with the 'talking head' format, please don't stop! Working way through all the videos in order, watching some twice!
Aww thank you!!
This is a great project, awesome work! I also recognized my neighborhood in the samples 😂
Thank you and hi there fellow Angeleno!
Nice picture，great video！Actually , I am quite interesting in SIGMA camera，but I have already own PENTAX K1 & RICOH GR3x!
Great to see this video. I own the same camera and I am not using it enough because I own an old Imac that cannot run Sigmas software without driving me insane.. :)
Please can you elaborate a bit about what is so wrong about the DNG files?
It's truly such a great camera and I have actually come to fall in love with Sigma Photo Pro if you can believe that. Slow, clunky but wow it can really do great things with the X3F. I just couldn't seem to reproduce the same thing with the DNG in Lightroom - the colors and shadows would block up. I have heard a lot of people have no issue with it so maybe I just haven't spent enough time trying. But again I've really come around on SPP so it's not an issue but I do think about the day when they perhaps stop supporting the software development and then it is absolutely clutch to have the DNG option.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras I am using Capture One and the DNG is SO convenient. Then I read all these more clever than me people saying that it is not so good and then I feel as if I am missing out on something.. :)
I find the dynamic range in the DNG files quite impressing. But the white balance can be a bit tricky. I guess that is the camera and not hte file. I tried to do some comparing of DNG vs X3F regarding the noise levels once, but that Sigma software made me feel like throwing out the camera.. :)
@@ronaldjensen2886 if it works it works!!! Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise :) I’ll try some of the DNGs in C1!
@@OneMonthTwoCameras
I would love to hear about your experience on that!
Does the inner barrel ever move beyond the outer barrel during the focus travel?
After I changed the in-camera colour space from sRGB to Adobe RGB I don't have any more problems with White Balance on these DP cameras.
Whoa, interesting! Not sure why moving to print color space would do that but such a good tip
Love these cameras so much I ended up owning the SD Quattro, all the dp Merrill and the Quattro series. Usually walk around with the dp0. There's a photoshop plugin from adobe that allows for you to edit the x3f natively. Though I do prefer SPP with the Quattro you can do in camera editing which can help on the fly and just use the jpg. IQ well worth the quirks
I feel like I’m well on my way collecting in the same fashion. Absolutely love the outcome and the quirks are weirdly endearing and make me feel like I’ve earned the shot when I get it :)
Now I'm tempted.
Another FANTASTIC review! Thank you so much!
Thank you!
Unfortunately there isn't a DP3 Series in the 1st generation....Only the DP1 Quattro & Merrills,,..
Oh yes. I lovehate my merrills. They eat so many batteries a day as i used 24 shot films in the 80s. The display is a pain to view in bright light so i use a similar viewfinder like you. But i want a tilting EVF or at least a tilt display that is up to date. I hope for the coming full frame Foveon camera they do a collaboration with C1. SPP is so slow to work with. At least a lot of pain to work with that cameras but i love the look of the pictures. It is not for dimm light.And shooting in the sun makes funny artefacts but under normal conditions the pictures shine…
Well put. In the end, I will happily put up with all the pains for the output though. Still some of my favorite cameras :)
Affinity does read my Merrill files but I can’t get the quality I get from Photo pro so there’s no point. Really love the foveon results, well worth the effort.
Good to know! Yeah I have really begun to enjoy SPP and am happy to work my files within it.
Plug-in for Photoshop: www.sigma-global.com/en/software/sigma-x3f-plug-in-for-photoshop/
I heard people love the plug in! I don't use PS so haven't tried it out yet.
You are cool. I am glad I found your channel.
Aww thanks!
PS - By the way the way to work with the camera's native RAW files is Photoshop directly! Just install Sigma's free Photoshop plug-in and open the native RAWs for editing directly!
Yes I have heard! I don't use PS but that's so great.
i went from a DP2q to a SD. I loved the ergonomics of the SD but felt the DP2q 30mm was a lot better then the 30mm f1.4 dc on the SD
there is a definite advantage to the fixed focal length dpqs as they can perfect the relationship to the sensor. it's a great camera; enjoy.
I have heard about the camera, yet It seemed like a lot of fuss for the money. I ended up with the Pentax k1Mk2,which is as slow, yet also another composition winner. I might take a peek at some point, since I am so ready to have something different. I also bought the Sony VZ-1 and the E10 and I love those little monsters.
They’re crazy capable! Still need to sit down with the ZV1 and really look at it. The menus overwhelm me; I wish they had Sony’s latest. Really want to try the Pentax K1 line someday!
@@OneMonthTwoCameras My Pentax is for when I want to do critical, serious work, and want that one lens, in camera mastery. You do have to have the space and interest to carry it because it's a cinderblock. I took it with me to New Orleans when I first got it, and ended up shooting a family reunion, with no flash, no tripod, kits lens, and it rocked. It taught me to work with limits and under pressure, and aside from that I just went crazy shooting in the Quarter. Now I have the Sony VZ1 and the Sony e10, which do take time to figure out, yet they are amazing. I top those off with a Canon A2e film camera which from what I understand is the first film camera with eye AF.
@@michaels5166 what an awesome set up!!
Canon 5d Classic and the 1d MK III are very good Kameras, if you are looking for results like on films.
Sorry for my bad english, i am from germany.
I love the 5D original! I’d love to try the 1D Miii
it’s sooo much faster to install the SPP plugin for photoshop, and almost instantly import to TIFF and then edit from there, in ACR or lightroom. It’s massively faster on the M1 specifically! The toil is indeed real but it cuts this down by like 80%
So interesting- I have tried the plug-in for photoshop but I didn’t find it dramatically faster and if you can believe it, I’ve kind of fallen in love with SPP these days so while it’s slow, it really doesn’t bother me anymore 😂
Interesting foveon sensor camera
I had the dp0 for a while then moved onto the SD Quattro
Want to try that camera so badly.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras the files that come out of the SDQ are astonishing… I ended up selling it and going to Sony as my society were sponsored by Zeiss and the lenses wouldn’t fit the sigma lol
Art is time
My heart loves your channel. My wallet less so. Dp1Q is on its way to me 😬
Haha! Ooo can’t wait to hear what you think of it!
@@OneMonthTwoCameras1 month in I love it.
Managed to get the dp1 with the evf.
I love the way you use it- trust the histogram then get home, swap sd cards and have a look in Sigma Pro.
It feels like working with a film camera.
You forgot the dp0 quattro.
Tout pictures are awesome
Merci!!
@@OneMonthTwoCameras i just bought Sigma sd15, do you know ? Is foveon sensor
@@milodermick2981 I know of it but I haven't used it before unfortunately
The was an LCD screen for it ... the LVF-01
Yup! That's what you see in the video which I talk about.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras @One Month Two Cameras .... I have to admit to not watching the video all the way through first time.
I have 2 suggestions for an old camera review, and these are the Ricoh GXR, and the Sigma SD Quattro (APC-H) with option to shoot in a 21:9 aspect ratio, which is close to the Xpan format that you love so much.
@@kiwipics I love these recommendations John! You’ll find one of those going live in two weeks (shhhh) :)
@@OneMonthTwoCameras ... I think Andrew & Denae have covered the Sigma Quattro SD H in a panoramic street photo duel (#37), and maybe worth watching.
Xpan alternatives : th-cam.com/video/GMBYDvMV6iY/w-d-xo.html
Quattro challenge: th-cam.com/video/f6gNSul33b0/w-d-xo.html
nice
First! :)
I'd say I'm an experienced photographer, even though I haven't been shooting for 40 years or so, but I know my way around.
I got an Sigma DP2 - the OG one, I loved the brutalist design, and rarely I had some good results, but albeit it was extremely frustrating working with it. Hard to nail focus, non existing battery life (be happy to get 30 shots out of one battery). Put it back on the shelf.
I also got a dp1 merill, who is - in terms of sharpness and detail - way better than my recently sold 5d mk3, but offers en equally frustrating experience.
To be honest, I never had a camera that frustrated me that much
Me neither yet I still find myself coming back to it. There is something in it that I can’t walk away from
Haha, yes the cameras are frustrating, but they also reward you with beautiful shots. You must take at least 5 batteries with you. I see a battery like a 24er film and only look at the pictures at home on the computer and not on the display on the go. Otherwise you need more batteries…
@@SD_Alias the pictures are amazing, but I just can't seem to be patient enough to deal with it... yet I can't sell them either
@@fightsportsworldwide9776 Yes patience is what you need for that kind of cameras. I see the camera as an old film camera loaded with a 24er 100 ISO film.
my midrange pc processes way faster than that mac with sigma photo pro - its actually almost instantaneous with changes
That's so interesting. I wonder if they haven't updated for the M1 chip yet?
Nice picture，great video！Actually , I am quite interesting in SIGMA camera，but I have already own PENTAX K1 & RICOH GR3x!