I am currently writing a fictional book on this topic exactly. This video has been pretty helpful with the concept. I will return back to this comment once the book is finished.
"Common Era". It's equivalent to the BC/AD system and comes from how the Christian era was sometimes termed in Latin. In the 1600s, the scientist Johannes Kepler proposed "common era" (Latin: anno aerae nostrae vulgaris) as a better calendar system since it doesn't misrepresent what year Christ was born. It's generally the system preferred by academics today, but for some reason I get a lot of comments about it here.
What's interesting is that mixed city populations perfectly align with the Bible and the book of Joshua. It makes clear that the Israelites when entering the land of Canaan are instructed to completely wipe out the Canaanites/Philistines in the area, which they do not. Instead they use them as slave labour, and over the years, some of their practices and beliefs become a part of Israel, and remains a thorn in their side for the rest of Israel's history. Also, regarding the Cerethites and Pelethites, it is not uncommon for the Bible to reference tribes and people at the time of writing, not the time of occurance. It would be like me today saying "Britain and Italy have a history of conflict, dating back to the 1st century AD". If an archeologist found this text millenia later, they too could say it's invalid because Italy didn't exist at the time, as it was the Roman Empire. But it could be me writing for the current audience. But who knows. The Cerethites and Pelethites may have only existed in 7th century, but who do they originate from? That could be who the Biblical reference is referring to. Great video though. Super informative. Just subscribed
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, I agree that the text incorporates memories of ethnic diversity in the background of Israel. I'm also reminded of the "mixed multitude" that is said to be part of Israel during the exodus story.
Goliath wasn't even a giant according to the Septuagint, Josephus, and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Goliath's miraculous height was a change made by the Masoretes during the medieval era. The battle between David and Goliath is also one of the most altered episodes in the Book of Samuel and in practice, the younger the manuscript, the more the scribes have altered and added to the text. Today, scholars have also concluded that in the original account, Goliath was slain by Elhanan, not David, and that someone made this change to the text even before Chronicles was written.
The Philistines were of Greek origin and migrated from Crete, the Aegean Islands, or modern-day Greece to Canaan in the 12th century BC. Some say they may have been Mycenaeans. Ancient DNA evidence from Philistine cities, such as Ashkelon, suggests an influx of south European genes around 1200 BC, which could be from Greece, Crete, Sardinia, or the Iberian peninsula. Excavations at these sites have also uncovered pottery with Greek styles.
@@michaellynes3540 my own research has them as one of the 12 tribes. That’s why we have such confusion on people like Hercules and Samson. They are the same guy.
Interesting video Paul! I have heard the theory before that the tribe of Dan was connected to the Danaans and while it doesn't fascinating possibility I'm not entirely sure of it. When you were showing the various biblical passages that seem to recall a non-Canaanite origin for the Philistines , I believe you may have missed 1 Samuel 17:26 when during the story of his encounter with goliath, David repeatedly refers to Goliath and the Philistines as being "uncircumcised"which would thus designate a non Semitic origin for them. I was wondering if you have ever heard of particular conservative scholarly arguments for the presence of the Philistines during the patriarchal narratives which posit that the term Philistine was being retroactively applied to an earlier group of Mediterranean colonists (curiously enough an argument which was taken up by rabbis in late antiquity). Some conservative scholars have proposed that there exists archaeological evidence which shows that there were sea peoples who were migrating into the near East before the bronze age collapse, and thus in their minds provides justification for the presence of the Philistines in the narratives of Genesis. How would you respond to this particular kind of argumentation? Is there solid archaeological evidence for the presence of Aegean peoples migrating into the near East in small numbers before the bronze age collapse?
Thanks for the comment. I haven't come across any evidence for that. You do find earlier Aegean/Mycenaean pottery in Canaan during the Bronze Age, but none of is produced locally. There were extensive trade networks with places like Cyprus and Anatolia during the Bronze Age that disintegrated during the collapse.
The Philistines / Peleset had DNA from Crete , however once they were there for around 200 years the Greek DNA was gone. They were eventually Canaanites with a Greek culture.
Deep dives into the minutia of the biblical text and its archaeological background are what I do. And as the video title implies, my goal here was to examine both the historical record and biblical references to the Philistines in order to compare them. I think the fact that the archaeological record shows the existence of an Iron II king by that name is quite interesting.
The willingness to use BCE instead of before Christ says ions about your heart and the Bible. We are all of the blood line from Adam and Eve and the sons of Noah... this pitch about any part of the Hebrews being any part of another tribe is completely contrary to a biblical world view. The law came through Moses and the tribes of Isreal to adhere to the Law. Thousands of years later the Lion of Judah yes the Son of man Jesus would come to fulfill the Law and die for your for my for the sin of the world.. The Christ would die be buried and on the third day be resurrected so that all might believe will not parish.
The "common era" dating system was introduced by Johannes Kepler, a great scientist and devout Christian. It is the standard in academic literature, and this is an academic channel, so it's what I use.
@@InquisitiveBible you can claim devout anything but to be known by your fruit... if your fruit leads away instead to Christ Jesus... then is one devout?
@daviderman5931 really... Christ precedes His birth...Melchizedek look it up. Jesus Yeshua the Son of man the Ancient of Days made time hence BC and AD... Look it up
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth shall pass away, not even one iota, nor one stroke of a letter, shall pass away from the law, until everything should happen.
Thanks for the comment, Wendy. Yes, there are two stories about the Philistines in Genesis, involving Abraham and Isaac respectively. I address the Isaac story in particular in the second half of the video.
@@InquisitiveBible Just found in Genesis 10, particularly verse 14, where the Philistines descended from Casluhim, son of Mizraim, son of Ham, son of Noah.
Heh, I actually had a bit about that but ended up cutting it for time. Some scholars think the text is out of order due to a scribal error and the Philistines are supposed to be descended from Caphtor (Crete) in that verse.
The only acceptable A.i. voiceover I've tolerated - your writings seem more factual but 13.10 Abraham didn't lie twice about his wife - the same incident OCCURRED TWICE : Abraham then Isaac also 😂 must've become a fathers campfire story
I don't use AI voices, it's just how I sound, so I guess I'll take that as a compliment. Regarding Abraham, I was referring to the two stories where he travels to another land and pretends Sarah is his sister: once in Egypt (Genesis 12) and once in Gerar (Genesis 20).
In the case of historians and archaeologists, yes, that's probably one reason. See this video by archaeologist Robert Cargill, for example: th-cam.com/video/axbaKTNr80w/w-d-xo.html Another reason, though perhaps not what Kepler intended, is that CE is more culturally and religiously neutral in an age where the entire world participates in the scientific and academic community. I personally don't have a strong opinion. Many non-religious scientists still prefer BC/AD for reasons of culture and tradition.
No. It is because they don't want Christ to be at the center of history. Or remembered at all. Use AD, my friend. Don't conform yourself to the will of the enemies of Christ.
Palastine was the name given the the region by the Ottoman Empire, hundreds of years after the destruction of Jerusalem and Isreal in the first century, CE. Referring to the region as Palestine in the 12 century BCE is an error. In antiquity, a lot can happen in a two thousand year period.
Thanks for the comment. It is common for historians and archaeologists to use “Palestine” as a neutral geographical term for the southern Levant, just as we refer to the ancient continent of Africa even though the name "Africa" wasn't in use until the Roman era.
I'm a huge fan of this channel and one of its earliest subscribers. However, I'm a little disappointed in this one to be honest. The maps are wrong, during the collapse, there was no Mitanni state, rather, Assyria. Also, Assyria didn't collapse during that episode but rather continued to function and expand for the next 200 years before it collapsed in the early IRON age. But most importantly, this video deviated a lot from the regular biblical criticism which we are used to. Instead, the main focus was archaeology. Don't get me wrong, archaeology is important, but these videos are plentiful on youtube.
Hey, thanks for the comment and being a longtime subscriber. That map is recreated from a map of Late Bronze Age civilizations that appears in Eric Cline's famous book 1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed. Cline labels it as “Map of the Late Bronze Age civilizations in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean”. You are correct that Mitanni came under Assyrian control near the end of the Late Bronze Age. I'll add a correction to the description. The rest of the videos I have planned this year are focused more on Bible topics.
@@Geambasu169 the philistines were Greek, white. Modern palestinians are nomadic outcast tribes. They've tried stealing several other landscape identities
Palestine has been a crossroads for migrations and conquests since time immemorial. I believe most Palestinians today are descended from Arabs who migrated during the Medieval period, though some may have ancestors who were Turkish, Jewish, Kurdish, Sub-Saharian African, etc. Of course, there have been Arab tribes in the region (Ishmaelites, Edomites, etc.) who intermarried with the Judaeans since the Iron Age as well. This is not my field of expertise and not a political statement of any kind.
I think the audio mix sounds a bit different depending on your audio setup (especially speakers versus headphones). I'll try testing that a bit more going forward.
To those who wants to know if the Jews are also Arab, the answer is yes. Jews, Hebrews, and Arab are descended from Sumerians as Abraham himself was born in Capital City Ur of the Ur Empire. There are just a few Sumerian Empires of Abraham's time and Ur Empire stood out the most unlike its Sumerian cousins, the Akkadian Empire, Elam Empire, Assyrian Empire, Mari Empire, and Mitanni Empire.
You level up the editing each time you upload. Very interesting about the tribe of Dan and Danuna, I hadn't heard that before.
Can’t wait for the David and Goliath video. I go back to that blog article of yours all the time.
This will be amazing!
Most slept on Bible channel on TH-cam
Another great hit from the best Biblical TH-camr!
Thank you for this amazing video, I will continue to wait for months for these well researched topics. Keep it up!
Extremely well done and informative.
Glad another video was up. I was just lamenting running out.
Great video from a great creator! Thanks so much for this one.
A very well-made video with good information.
Awesome video
Man, I need to watch Xena Warrior Princess again sometime...
I am currently writing a fictional book on this topic exactly. This video has been pretty helpful with the concept. I will return back to this comment once the book is finished.
Sounds fascinating. Let us know once the book is finished!
Very well done. A new subscriber.
😊 very good work
What does CE mean?
"Common Era". It's equivalent to the BC/AD system and comes from how the Christian era was sometimes termed in Latin. In the 1600s, the scientist Johannes Kepler proposed "common era" (Latin: anno aerae nostrae vulgaris) as a better calendar system since it doesn't misrepresent what year Christ was born. It's generally the system preferred by academics today, but for some reason I get a lot of comments about it here.
Well done and interesting esp the ‘sea people.’
Fascinating
What's interesting is that mixed city populations perfectly align with the Bible and the book of Joshua. It makes clear that the Israelites when entering the land of Canaan are instructed to completely wipe out the Canaanites/Philistines in the area, which they do not. Instead they use them as slave labour, and over the years, some of their practices and beliefs become a part of Israel, and remains a thorn in their side for the rest of Israel's history.
Also, regarding the Cerethites and Pelethites, it is not uncommon for the Bible to reference tribes and people at the time of writing, not the time of occurance. It would be like me today saying "Britain and Italy have a history of conflict, dating back to the 1st century AD". If an archeologist found this text millenia later, they too could say it's invalid because Italy didn't exist at the time, as it was the Roman Empire. But it could be me writing for the current audience. But who knows. The Cerethites and Pelethites may have only existed in 7th century, but who do they originate from? That could be who the Biblical reference is referring to.
Great video though. Super informative. Just subscribed
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, I agree that the text incorporates memories of ethnic diversity in the background of Israel. I'm also reminded of the "mixed multitude" that is said to be part of Israel during the exodus story.
The presentation here is quit convincing . Thank you.
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Goliath wasn't even a giant according to the Septuagint, Josephus, and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Goliath's miraculous height was a change made by the Masoretes during the medieval era. The battle between David and Goliath is also one of the most altered episodes in the Book of Samuel and in practice, the younger the manuscript, the more the scribes have altered and added to the text. Today, scholars have also concluded that in the original account, Goliath was slain by Elhanan, not David, and that someone made this change to the text even before Chronicles was written.
Great, now I have to go watch Xena.
The Philistines were of Greek origin and migrated from Crete, the Aegean Islands, or modern-day Greece to Canaan in the 12th century BC. Some say they may have been Mycenaeans. Ancient DNA evidence from Philistine cities, such as Ashkelon, suggests an influx of south European genes around 1200 BC, which could be from Greece, Crete, Sardinia, or the Iberian peninsula. Excavations at these sites have also uncovered pottery with Greek styles.
Nice try joo. The philistines are still natives in Canaan than hebrews will ever be
@@kevaran1422 Oh look, the disgruntled terrorist loving goat herder.
He’s right. They are Greek. Additionally they are from the tribe of Dan. They are not caaninites.
@@ChrisWalter-zr3bn the Philistines aren’t from the Tribe of Dan, but they were neighbors.
@@michaellynes3540 my own research has them as one of the 12 tribes. That’s why we have such confusion on people like Hercules and Samson. They are the same guy.
Great void, but could you lower the Balfour noise. I want to learn from you and the music is distracting
Interesting video Paul! I have heard the theory before that the tribe of Dan was connected to the Danaans and while it doesn't fascinating possibility I'm not entirely sure of it.
When you were showing the various biblical passages that seem to recall a non-Canaanite origin for the Philistines , I believe you may have missed 1 Samuel 17:26 when during the story of his encounter with goliath, David repeatedly refers to Goliath and the Philistines as being "uncircumcised"which would thus designate a non Semitic origin for them.
I was wondering if you have ever heard of particular conservative scholarly arguments for the presence of the Philistines during the patriarchal narratives which posit that the term Philistine was being retroactively applied to an earlier group of Mediterranean colonists (curiously enough an argument which was taken up by rabbis in late antiquity). Some conservative scholars have proposed that there exists archaeological evidence which shows that there were sea peoples who were migrating into the near East before the bronze age collapse, and thus in their minds provides justification for the presence of the Philistines in the narratives of Genesis. How would you respond to this particular kind of argumentation? Is there solid archaeological evidence for the presence of Aegean peoples migrating into the near East in small numbers before the bronze age collapse?
Thanks for the comment. I haven't come across any evidence for that. You do find earlier Aegean/Mycenaean pottery in Canaan during the Bronze Age, but none of is produced locally. There were extensive trade networks with places like Cyprus and Anatolia during the Bronze Age that disintegrated during the collapse.
The Philistines / Peleset had DNA from Crete , however once they were there for around 200 years the Greek DNA was gone. They were eventually Canaanites with a Greek culture.
Also why do you people nitpick the Bible. Ashdod is a Phillistine city. Abimelech was a Phillistine King. Gerar was also a Phillistine city.
Deep dives into the minutia of the biblical text and its archaeological background are what I do. And as the video title implies, my goal here was to examine both the historical record and biblical references to the Philistines in order to compare them. I think the fact that the archaeological record shows the existence of an Iron II king by that name is quite interesting.
The willingness to use BCE instead of before Christ says ions about your heart and the Bible. We are all of the blood line from Adam and Eve and the sons of Noah... this pitch about any part of the Hebrews being any part of another tribe is completely contrary to a biblical world view.
The law came through Moses and the tribes of Isreal to adhere to the Law.
Thousands of years later the Lion of Judah yes the Son of man Jesus would come to fulfill the Law and die for your for my for the sin of the world.. The Christ would die be buried and on the third day be resurrected so that all might believe will not parish.
The "common era" dating system was introduced by Johannes Kepler, a great scientist and devout Christian. It is the standard in academic literature, and this is an academic channel, so it's what I use.
@@InquisitiveBible you can claim devout anything but to be known by your fruit... if your fruit leads away instead to Christ Jesus... then is one devout?
Christ was not born in 1 CE but likely 4 BCE. BC and AC doesn't make sense for our current calendar.
@daviderman5931 really... Christ precedes His birth...Melchizedek look it up. Jesus Yeshua the Son of man the Ancient of Days made time hence BC and AD...
Look it up
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth shall pass away, not even one iota, nor one stroke of a letter, shall pass away from the law, until everything should happen.
Aren't the Philistines mentioned several times in the book of Genesis?
Thanks for the comment, Wendy. Yes, there are two stories about the Philistines in Genesis, involving Abraham and Isaac respectively. I address the Isaac story in particular in the second half of the video.
@@InquisitiveBible Sorry, I was too quick to jump in - haven't got up to that.
@@InquisitiveBible Just found in Genesis 10, particularly verse 14, where the Philistines descended from Casluhim, son of Mizraim, son of Ham, son of Noah.
Heh, I actually had a bit about that but ended up cutting it for time. Some scholars think the text is out of order due to a scribal error and the Philistines are supposed to be descended from Caphtor (Crete) in that verse.
@@InquisitiveBible Thanks for reply. I will look at other translations. 💒
The only acceptable A.i. voiceover I've tolerated - your writings seem more factual but 13.10 Abraham didn't lie twice about his wife - the same incident OCCURRED TWICE : Abraham then Isaac also 😂 must've become a fathers campfire story
I don't use AI voices, it's just how I sound, so I guess I'll take that as a compliment. Regarding Abraham, I was referring to the two stories where he travels to another land and pretends Sarah is his sister: once in Egypt (Genesis 12) and once in Gerar (Genesis 20).
@@InquisitiveBible thanks brother! Your own voice? Well you got me there! 😂 Appreciated ❤️ blessings to you
They came from as far as Lechi.
The Bible says the Philistines came from Caphtor. The Bible is extremely accurate.
Pirates...no winder they want those land so badly😂
Do you actually believe the reason CE is used by academics is because it does not misrepresent the birth of Christ?
In the case of historians and archaeologists, yes, that's probably one reason. See this video by archaeologist Robert Cargill, for example: th-cam.com/video/axbaKTNr80w/w-d-xo.html
Another reason, though perhaps not what Kepler intended, is that CE is more culturally and religiously neutral in an age where the entire world participates in the scientific and academic community.
I personally don't have a strong opinion. Many non-religious scientists still prefer BC/AD for reasons of culture and tradition.
No. It is because they don't want Christ to be at the center of history. Or remembered at all. Use AD, my friend. Don't conform yourself to the will of the enemies of Christ.
I don't know why but I found this one very hard to follow
@@potholerrepairsterra Thanks for the feedback!
Palastine was the name given the the region by the Ottoman Empire, hundreds of years after the destruction of Jerusalem and Isreal in the first century, CE. Referring to the region as Palestine in the 12 century BCE is an error. In antiquity, a lot can happen in a two thousand year period.
Thanks for the comment. It is common for historians and archaeologists to use “Palestine” as a neutral geographical term for the southern Levant, just as we refer to the ancient continent of Africa even though the name "Africa" wasn't in use until the Roman era.
Ancestors of the Palestinians.
Greeks
I'm a huge fan of this channel and one of its earliest subscribers.
However, I'm a little disappointed in this one to be honest.
The maps are wrong, during the collapse, there was no Mitanni state, rather, Assyria.
Also, Assyria didn't collapse during that episode but rather continued to function and expand for the next 200 years before it collapsed in the early IRON age.
But most importantly, this video deviated a lot from the regular biblical criticism which we are used to. Instead, the main focus was archaeology. Don't get me wrong, archaeology is important, but these videos are plentiful on youtube.
Hey, thanks for the comment and being a longtime subscriber.
That map is recreated from a map of Late Bronze Age civilizations that appears in Eric Cline's famous book 1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed. Cline labels it as “Map of the Late Bronze Age civilizations in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean”. You are correct that Mitanni came under Assyrian control near the end of the Late Bronze Age. I'll add a correction to the description.
The rest of the videos I have planned this year are focused more on Bible topics.
@@InquisitiveBible Great to hear and you're welcome 🤗
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Reflect that..... GOD is not real......
HUMAN create GOD,
An Atheist and a Scientist.
lay of that sht noise. how does it improve the yapping except drown it out ?
Phillistines are not Palestinians!!@ lol
I didn't say that they were.
@@InquisitiveBiblewhy not ? 😮
@@Geambasu169 the philistines were Greek, white.
Modern palestinians are nomadic outcast tribes. They've tried stealing several other landscape identities
Palestine has been a crossroads for migrations and conquests since time immemorial. I believe most Palestinians today are descended from Arabs who migrated during the Medieval period, though some may have ancestors who were Turkish, Jewish, Kurdish, Sub-Saharian African, etc. Of course, there have been Arab tribes in the region (Ishmaelites, Edomites, etc.) who intermarried with the Judaeans since the Iron Age as well. This is not my field of expertise and not a political statement of any kind.
I believe the Bible
The background music and sound effects are completely unnecessary and actually distracting from the content of your video
Thanks for the feedback, Gary.
The music is incredible (and really fitting) but a little too loud.
@@InquisitiveBible Speaking for myself, I liked the music and sound effects. It did not distract me at all.
@@InquisitiveBibleIgnore it. ; )
I think the audio mix sounds a bit different depending on your audio setup (especially speakers versus headphones). I'll try testing that a bit more going forward.
To those who wants to know if the Jews are also Arab, the answer is yes. Jews, Hebrews, and Arab are descended from Sumerians as Abraham himself was born in Capital City Ur of the Ur Empire. There are just a few Sumerian Empires of Abraham's time and Ur Empire stood out the most unlike its Sumerian cousins, the Akkadian Empire, Elam Empire, Assyrian Empire, Mari Empire, and Mitanni Empire.