This Speaker Cab Is Supposed To SUCK, Right?

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  • @fuzzy734
    @fuzzy734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great way to prove a point!

  • @davidmini3606
    @davidmini3606 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    keep up the great work Robert

  • @seannolph
    @seannolph ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! Enjoyed the result reveal! Thanks again!

  • @MelodyMaker218
    @MelodyMaker218 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I chose #1, point well made about the Sheffield. I have never played through one yet.

  • @andrewbecker3700
    @andrewbecker3700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not that you need me or anyone telling you good job, but good job. Keep doing content like this please. I was all ready to swap the pickups out of a guitar I don't even have yet, for the simple fact that the internet/TH-cam concensus says that the 58/15 LT pickups in McCarty .594 singlecuts are a bit darker/muddier than other PRS humbuckers. Turns out they/PRS, have designed a pickup for the neck/bass position on the .594 singlecut specifically, to address any perceived tonal differences caused by the extra wood mass around the neck joint. They're the new TCI 58/15LT+ pickups in the neck position. $500 dollar custom wound pickups, and I was gonna pull 'em out? That's wack.

  • @chrisadams628
    @chrisadams628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah. I never thought about the cabs being virtual. Pretty cool test!

  • @SH-fm5eu
    @SH-fm5eu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And the whole time I'm sitting there thinking "hey Robert that Juno 60 worth a shit or a one trick pony?"

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว

      What Juno 60?

    • @SH-fm5eu
      @SH-fm5eu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobertWJackson June 60 is what I meant to say, the pedal over your shoulder that came from the Juno 60 keyboard. This is all off the top of my head Robert...

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, now I’m with you. Yes, the June-60 pedal is a cool chorus pedal. I did a video on it a long time ago when I got it.

  • @donb.6784
    @donb.6784 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have not and never will use sims or ir's. For me it will always be a tube amp and either the speaker in the combo or a 4X12 cab or two. Great video Robert. Thanks again for the content.

  • @donsimon63
    @donsimon63 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid! Not sure what You just proved. Something along the lines of: the real-world guitar playing experience has nothing to do with TH-cam videos and people's opinions and reactions to them.
    Your Peavey sounded great.
    In the Blues has a thing about Peaveys too.

  • @jasonturner2485
    @jasonturner2485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that almost sounds exactly like riff i wrote . lol rock on bro

  • @voxpathfinder15r
    @voxpathfinder15r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People say Celestion 70/80 sucks. I have had good luck with them

  • @obsg2650
    @obsg2650 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this is just proof that mic'ing up a real live cabinet is miles better than a cab sim. yeah people shouldn't jump on the bandwagon because somebody told them to. the Sheffield sounds killer to me, i def picked #1

    • @riffsnoleads
      @riffsnoleads ปีที่แล้ว +2

      CAN be miles better. Anything can sound good if you care about what you want it to sound like.

    • @obsg2650
      @obsg2650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i agree, whatever program he is using for cab sim just sounds like shit@@riffsnoleads

    • @obsg2650
      @obsg2650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i'm not trying to be too negative because i love dudes content. but like, dang, there are much better cab sims out there that will sound much fuller

  • @ParanormalArson
    @ParanormalArson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Glenn's content, but you don't need to treat every single opinion of his as gospel. Try things and form YOUR OWN opinion! I'm sure Glenn would say the exact same thing as well. Great test!

  • @guitarplayer232
    @guitarplayer232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glen isn't right about everything. Great video Robert.

  • @maidenman74
    @maidenman74 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think we all bow to peer pressure too much. I have a 4x12 Marshall 1960 (i think, badge is lost) i wanted V30's in it since I've had it, because the internet told me i needed to. I eventually got 4x V30's and installed them and..........I hated them!!!!!! way too 'midley' IMO. I've gone back to the G12-75's and i now realise that I love these speakers!!

    • @jconner3891
      @jconner3891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get two dv77 ‘s with you v30’s. Sounds great. ❤

    • @ilikebacon860
      @ilikebacon860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree man, same story here! G12-75's rock

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the T75’s. I’ve been playing the same Marshall 1960A cab with the same JCM 900 Dual Reverb for over 10 years now, and I’ll never get rid of either one of them.

    • @maidenman74
      @maidenman74 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobertWJackson Great amps but the purists will state ‘it’s not a real tube amp, it’s got clipping diodes’ whilst playing through a tube screamer!!!

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fortunately, I couldn’t care less what the “purists” have to say about it. I’m a Marshall purist myself and I love the Dual Reverbs.

  • @LucasFowler
    @LucasFowler ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yesss I feel vindicated 😂

  • @garybrady9531
    @garybrady9531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my 6505 1x12 amp and play it the most while my Marshall 212 sits beside it or the 2 Fenders on the same wall

  • @archer4556
    @archer4556 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol, love this one. I couldn't tell the difference in any of them but I'm old and deaf and my ears are constantly ringing from artillery.

  • @blokkadeleider
    @blokkadeleider ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fair enough. Apparently I have an expensive taste, having chosen cab3. Although the Mesa cab is one of my favorites together with the Engl Standard cab E412 Standard, with V60's. It's darker than the E412 XXL. The Standard is what I have and I use an IR e of my own cab too. I don't understand the hate against Peavey cabs though. They don't sound bad at all. Best to use them with a ribbon and an SM57 (or a nice condenser of choice) in a recording setting. Live you'll probably get a Sennheiser or an SM57 thrown in front, so that was a good choice for the comparison imo.

  • @howardcunniffe8738
    @howardcunniffe8738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess # 4. I must have lost my ass on this one.

  • @D.Guitar
    @D.Guitar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I had said. 1+3. Or. 3+5? Hell I don't remember... Keep in mind. I play a Blackstar id 60 TVP solid State Head. Pushing 3 celestian vintage 30's and a Warehouse vintage 30 clone. And two celestian rocket 50's. So. 6-12" on all the time

  • @davidblankenship7985
    @davidblankenship7985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the Celestion Seventy 80. Of course, I'm playing punk rather than metal, so I jack up the mids and treble for a brash, brassy sound

  • @JMK-kb1yq
    @JMK-kb1yq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's amazing how many judgments we make with our eyes instead of our ears.
    Side note: I've never really liked the V30; not sure why, just didn't. I like K100's & Randall Jaguars most. To each their own I suppose.

  • @cjhenry41
    @cjhenry41 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cab 4 absolutely does not suck and in fact none of them do. I am super partial to Cab 4

  • @garyshelly6555
    @garyshelly6555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I guess that explains it then, why I chose number. My current rig is a Mesa boogie multi triple rectifier with you guessed it, 8 shitfield speakers one of the cabinets which I have been using for over 30 years. And I absolutely love the way they sound.

  • @chrisloibner2786
    @chrisloibner2786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! I have been rocking the same Peavey 4x12 w/ Shefields since 1997. Its been through 3 amps and still sounds killer. Right now it has a Boss Katana Mk2. head and I love it.

  • @TommySG1
    @TommySG1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Believe I chose 1 as well.
    Funny thing, I have a real nice Tone Tubby 2 x 12 here, I have a Friedman Dirty Shirley head it’s tied to and I rarely even use it. With the Ox I’m almost always just going line out into a Headrush FR speaker and it sounds fantastic. The cab just takes up space and I’m too stubborn to sell it LOL!
    Cool comparison you did man, My self included we definitely go by big names and labels, or at least a whole lot of us.

  • @davidmurray9193
    @davidmurray9193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Laney ironheart full stack with their standard 412a and 412b cab speakers and is sweet enough for me, then I have a DIY cab I made with two different eminence speakers cross ways, two Texas heats 150W each and two swamp thangs 150W each with intragal speakers mics built into the cab cathing the two speakers in recording for which I Manley use either a orang pro crush 120, a h&k blackspirit 200 floor, a blu guitar mercury and lastly my iron heart 300w amp, I would like to change my recording set up and buy the laney la studio amp with two notes but t hat s a later on project, as for speakers it does make a difference on tone but the snobbery is like Gibson owners very blinkered, music is about being open to possibilities with experimentation and ooooohhhh look what I did with that tweek. Closed minds are not artistic. COOL VIDEO AGAIN SIR THANK YOU

  • @chrisspegal5081
    @chrisspegal5081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is a virtual test really accurate? It seems kind of like making a copy of a copy.

  • @Mike-w2w1b
    @Mike-w2w1b ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Robert! I have been vindicated. I knew that Glenn Fricker was a jerk who thought he knew all. The Peavey Sheffield sounds great, but you have to know what you are doing.

    • @chasesguitararmory1931
      @chasesguitararmory1931 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fricker said the Sheffield sucks? Lol😂 he's barely a guitar player himself. He doesn't know anything.

    • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
      @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oohhh uhh ohhh Glenn *OFFENDED* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😝😝🤣 you

    • @chasesguitararmory1931
      @chasesguitararmory1931 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 He didn't offend anyone. Not sure what you're even trying to prove here. We are just saying that he's an idiot.

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glenn’s not a jerk, that’s quite a stretch. He yells and cusses a lot, but he’s always honest and NEVER bullshits his audience, and he’s quite knowledgeable on a lot of different topics in the industry. I’ve learned an awful lot from Glenn’s channel, and I agree with him about 90% of the time. Peavey Sheffield’s just happen to be one thing that I disagree with him on. If you think he’s a jerk, I’m willing to bet that he said something on his channel that you didn’t like.

  • @sgholt
    @sgholt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked 1, 2 and 4 this time, don't remember what I said on the last video :p I loved my Peavey Black Widows....Sheffields back in the day....

  • @Guitars-N-Guns
    @Guitars-N-Guns ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yah; that Peavy absolutely beat three of the five. And coincidentally enough 3 (Mesa Boogie) and 5 (Suhr) sucked 'muddy' bottom in my book. 2 is still better than 1, but 1 is better than three others.

  • @Ari_Calamari
    @Ari_Calamari ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I think one mic placement for all isn’t all that helpful. I know Christian Kohle usually mics every speaker individually to their optimal position. The same speaker, distance, and angle, but varying side to side, closer or further from the dust cap.

  • @richszmal1653
    @richszmal1653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I preferred #1 because it sounded more full and live sounding to me. My 2nd choice being #4 which was funny to me since i have that cab. Interesting video. I am so glad i am nit a sheeple. You should do another video like this one,but with a different topic.

  • @nicholasberndt6224
    @nicholasberndt6224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recall the JHS demo of the Bad Monkey overdrive. Hmmm…

  • @riffsnoleads
    @riffsnoleads ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't like #1 in the first video because of the woofy nature. However, it still sounded good (they all did) and I am not even surprised it was a Sheffield 1290. I am more shocked that my favorite sound was a Mesa cab because I usually hate them.
    I regularly use a Peavey 412 loaded with 1290s for recording. It's a great speaker that only gets hate because of V30 dominance from the factory line metal production mindset that has been present since the start of the Andy Sneap forums.
    That said, my only gripe with the 1290s is that they are not the most efficient speaker volume wise and can get buried in a loud band, at least in my experience.

  • @James.99
    @James.99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked the Marshall cab with Greenbacks best. This is surprising because I never was a Greenback fan and I personally think the G12K-100 is the best sounding Celestion speaker for metal tones. Also, the Peavey Sheffield of course isn't the best speaker in the world, but I've heard much worse. The grating speakers with tiny magnets in my Marshall MG412 cab I still have from when I was in high school are an example of some of the worse ones...

  • @jerryhatrick5860
    @jerryhatrick5860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hahahahahaha love it.
    I like the sheffield open back. Just not in n a 412 closed Amp matters also.
    The Amp matters with speakers. The wame Amp with wrong speaker can sound crap the right speaker glorious.

  • @joerojas5448
    @joerojas5448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    😆😄😄Ah, who da thunk it?!

  • @Ryan-Hall
    @Ryan-Hall ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use to play PEAVEY RENOUN with 12" Scorpions and I think these new PEAVEY speakers sound great 👍🤘🎸🤠

  • @soulsweet40
    @soulsweet40 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I chose cabinet 2 last time...I still think it sounds the best..but not willing to pay that much money for a cab...number 1 suits me fine

  • @w1zard0f0h
    @w1zard0f0h ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the Peavey scorpion plus sucks.

  • @rnrsteev
    @rnrsteev ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I chose #1 and not surprised at the outcome. I don't own one but I think the 6505+ is a great sounding combo.

  • @709AJ
    @709AJ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 2 x 12 homemade cab with shefields. It was awesome. I did get the v30s correct and the green backs I was 50/50 if they were or cream backs

  • @scottybrowndotca
    @scottybrowndotca ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hahaha .. Classic .. The Peavey wins in a blind sound shoot-out .. I sold Peavey for almost ten years and it was a fight every day to get people to give their stuff a chance .. The real, real tone guys (even if they didn't buy) would almost always admit the sound was comparable, if not better than, some of the big brands ..

  • @richardyoung9773
    @richardyoung9773 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have a straight 4X12 O.G. 5150 cab backed by a MS412 full stack with the O.G. 1290s. On occasion glenn (and his follows) are wrong.

  • @victormarinelli5660
    @victormarinelli5660 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's opinion suggesting that the EVM12L mounted in a Thiele cabinet is the ultimate speaker/cab combo for electric guitar. Do you have experience with this combo?

  • @mikecarreca7864
    @mikecarreca7864 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Robert, I chose number 2, as it sounded brighter. I was balancing my decision between 1 or number 2. Number 1 sounded more full, but eventually voted 2. I have a Peavey cab with the Sheffield and I have used it for years. I applaud your choice of doing that type of video. Maybe you might consider a video on microphone comparison.

  • @bdwitt66
    @bdwitt66 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! So now my mid 90s pre-Tans Tube Peavey Bandit 112 is worth a bunch just for the speaker? 😂

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, sorry. LOL

    • @bdwitt66
      @bdwitt66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobertWJackson I was hoping for some hype! 🤣

  • @jgmopar
    @jgmopar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked cab 4 in the first video, but I use cab 3 when I record. pretty funny. I have recorded songs with my peavey 6505 112+ with the Sheffield. that speaker cuts through the mix extremely well. Great video Robert

  • @Nizodizo
    @Nizodizo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do not understand. Did you put an actual microphone in front of every speaker or are you using a virtual speaker to represent those cabinets?

    • @CS-ru4xd
      @CS-ru4xd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Impulse Responses for Cab #2 - #5 and an actual Mic'ed Peavey 6505 combo was Cab #1

  • @guitarfreakchadwick25
    @guitarfreakchadwick25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm definitely not a bandwagon jumper... I'm rocking a B-52 AT100 cab because of your suggestion pairing it with my Peavey 6505 1992 Original and I would just about put it up against anything tone wise. If anyone thinks I'm tripping... I have tons of live video that will back it up.

  • @bjstein4242
    @bjstein4242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robert, next you are going to have to squash the naysayers by changing the speaker out 5 times in that cab.. because they are going to say you didn't have an even playing field.. (lots of work for senseless material).. but everyone's ears are different.. I liked #1 the best as more balanced.. was it that your IR's were the issue.. I don't know.. but I liked #1.. I think the 5150 4x12 gets the biggest rap.. seems like a great time to buy them for cheap.. lol

  • @jackarmistead5353
    @jackarmistead5353 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another good one \m/

  • @bobwilliams9824
    @bobwilliams9824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lik e a guy that aint afraid to put a bullseye on his back! Ha Ha! 1 and 3 were my picks. Hard to beat a Peavey! But different people, different likes. I was fairly certain 1 or 3 was a Peavey, but 64 year old ears here, so not so reliable as they once were. Speaking of cabs, I have an old Yamaha 410 combo from the 70's(?) that more than one person who has heard it has tried to get the sound of it out of their Marshall or Peavey rig. The amp itself aint nothing of note, but it makes an excellent pedal platform. Been funny to have thrown that in there to see who would have picked it!

  • @darrelledens237
    @darrelledens237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cab#2 for me sorry!!

  • @TylerJohnstonGuitar
    @TylerJohnstonGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I picked speaker 1 in the other video due to the fact that it was the only one that didn’t sound nasal or very processed. I’ve never had an issue with Sheffield speakers and that continues.

  • @gearmeister
    @gearmeister ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally, I understand your goal here, Robert... to expose sheeple crybaby fanboys... 😂
    None of the cabs sounded bad. I'm a 12-15" JBL guy anyway, or Altec-Lansing so I'm into really crisp cleans & the punch to blow you into the next county!

  • @jacobmauldin230
    @jacobmauldin230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At least I was right about it being a Celestion. 😂
    I think this is a cool comparison on how we as guitarists, will pick a brand or a name over what sounds the best.

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wasn’t a Vintage 30, though. LOL

  • @skerryperry3
    @skerryperry3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 6505+ combo always sounded great at home practice volume. When I brought it to practice and cranked it up to keep up with the drums, the top end turned to sizzle and the bottom end faded completely. I had to make a change. Mic them up and they sound great. Crank em up, different story. Awesome to see that it stacked up well against the V30 though.

  • @AD1978leo
    @AD1978leo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, 100% metal is by far my favorite but it has to be the most toxic community out there.

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True story there. LOL Metal players are the biggest bunch of whiney-ass gatekeeping guitar players on the planet. LOL When I got my Mode Four, I posted a photo of it in the Chug Life Facebook group and mentioned the deal that I got on it. So many of those dudes just couldn’t resist telling me how much those amps sucked, that I should have just lit $230 on fire, yadda yadda, etc., etc. pretty indicative of the metal guitar community as a whole. LOL

  • @ThunderFalcon333
    @ThunderFalcon333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No I'm sure of it. I hate the Sheffield lol

  • @Ari_Calamari
    @Ari_Calamari ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is not the same “Shitfield” that the internet decided it hates. That’s the Sheffield 1200.
    Your’s is the Sheffield 1290.
    Both the Sheffield 1290 and the Sheffield 1230 sound pretty good to me. The 1200, not so much.

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, now you’re just moving the goal posts. I’ve found that most people don’t even realize that there’s multiple versions of the Sheffield in the first place.

    • @Ari_Calamari
      @Ari_Calamari ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobertWJackson Moving goal posts? I don’t have a horse in this race, brother. And I’m not trying to put you down, friend. 😌
      But it’s just a fact that when people talk about shitty Sheffields they 9 out of 10 times talk about the 1200s. They’re the most well known ones. They’re the ones designed by Eddie Van Halen, the ones that came in the infamous Peavey 412 cabs.
      The sheffield 1230 and 1290 are actually pretty well liked by Peavey heads. But the 1200’s are just a fizzy mess. It’s not like they’re just slightly different either. They’re completely different models and sounds. The only thing they have in common is the ceramic magnet, and the Sheffield name.

  • @WickedFesterBand
    @WickedFesterBand ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha ha! Love it!

  • @mikeflanders1292
    @mikeflanders1292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video Robert. Thank you. Also, you look like you've lost a couple pounds . Did you change your diet or something?

  • @allanflippin2453
    @allanflippin2453 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Or we could say that cab sims suck? :D In any case, it was a cab sim that sounded best to me. Which goes to show I know nothing about metal. :P Rock on.

  • @Ari_Calamari
    @Ari_Calamari ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh, I didn’t really like most of the virtual miced ones. They sounded a bit woolly to me. I might have liked the first a slight bit more. But the Sheffield sounded the best in this video.

  • @MarcAndreLevesque
    @MarcAndreLevesque 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A true dog shit speaker if the seventy80 from Celestion, icepicky and lacks bottom end and punching through is next to impossible because the high mid dip. That being said, I've got a 2x12 with Eminence Governor and a swamp thang and that cab sound just as good if not better my 2x12 with Vintage 30's with most amps, especially with the low end and high end definition ... ymmv

  • @Gutch220
    @Gutch220 ปีที่แล้ว

    these are all virtual cabs so it's all a moot point.

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @Gutch220
      @Gutch220 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobertWJackson it's like comparing cars, but using a video game to do it.

    • @RobertWJackson
      @RobertWJackson  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gutch220 1) That’s not even close to being an accurate comparison, 2) the amp wasn’t virtual, and 3) the last one featured wasn’t a virtual cab at all.