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I love oversized 2x12s. I think the low end is better than a similar 4x12
4:27 the "aww geeez" in slow motion 😂😂
You should do a battle of the vertical 2x12’s. Orange vs. Mesa vs. ENGL. I know you’re not the biggest fan of the Orange since it’s a semi open back but give it a chance, I have one and it sounds huge.
I have that same cabinet ! It’s a absolute tank and pushes hard and loud ! I don’t think they could build it stronger ! Cheers Kyle !
I just ordered a Fireball 25. I bought a cheap 1x12 Cab with a V30 on Amazon for less than $200. Looks like I'll be buying this because it sounds great. Not sure how I'm going to hide it from the wife. I'll put a cream back in the single cab and I guess have a spare V30. Maybe I'll attempt to build a cab for it. I have 4 combos and 2 bass combos all solid state so this is my first foray into tubes. Strictly a bedroom player. I'll probably be exiled to another room or the garage. Thanks Kyle!
thanks for filming the inside, I mixed up the wiring so I could figure it out with the help of your video ! ;-)
This is my main cabinet and I love it. Thanks for playing a few awesome amps through it... except now I want more amps. Lol
That's exactly how I feel about my 2x12. It can run w a 25w Tube head keep up with a drummer very easily. Surprisingly thumpy and loud. Always thought I needed a 4x12 until i found the right 2x12. Saved my back too!
Sounds great Kyle! Nice demo with the 4 amp heads. Rock on brother.
This is my main cab. Love the sound. Purchased the Celestion made IRs of it as well.
Man that's a great looking cab
Looks like 3/4" plywood. It's wired up with high quality wire and jacks. Everything looks very well built.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is a very expensive (but worth it!) cabinet.
Just switched out the V30 for a Hesu Demon for the top speaker, and... it's different, that's for sure. =) Had to change some settings on the MT15 to get it where I wanted it to be, tone wise. What I really like about the stereo switch is that you can hear the different speakers in isolation and compare them side by side to see what they are bringing to the table. Luckily it wasn't that hard to install; just had a hiccup because the white wire had falling off before I could look at the back of the speaker to see how it was wired up, but I went back to this video and it really helped, since you took a look at the inside of the speaker cabinet. Thanks Kyle!
i have the horizontal version of this cab with my invader 100.
this is the tone i have always wanted so tight and articulate
Same here. Have Fireball 100 and use it with the horizontal version of it, damn those tones...
I’ve got that cab and runs it with a Engl Fireball 25, and a Evh 5150III 6l6 50w, and it smashes kick-ass🤘🏻
I think it sounded really well with the Bogner and Mesa also👍🏻
Please do a compairison with the Mesa angled 212 rectocab🙏🏻
I own the red fireball 25 ,with red matching 2x12. Sounds amazing!!!
Got the 2x12 and the 4x12, they all sound massive, Engl cabs are awesome.
The old poly-fil in the sub box trick. Definitely makes a difference in sound.
I was literally looking for a review on these like a week ago. My guy came through 👍
I have 2 Engl cabs. 2x12 pro & 4x12 pro. Engl cabs built like a tank 💪
i got the Engl E212VH Pro, wich is the Horizontal cab, it's a really hard hitting one and i love it! i thought about the vertical one, but the Horizontal slaps a bit more so i got that, when dialing it in i usually stand a few meters away so i hear it properly. It's heavy as hell but that's absolutely worth it!
Maaan I love cabs! I Wish I had space for more.
Great work 👏 Kyle. Cheers 🍻
Loved the Bogner…unreal amp!!
I recently bought my first vertical 2x12 and love it. It's just a HB Vintage 30 model, but it is all ply and decently built. Regardless of brand, vertical 2x12's really shine for self monitoring. I think I like it better than my much more expensive 2x12 horizontal cab. I bet that ENGL cab sounds super fat.
Amazing content Kyle! You’re the reason I collect cabs now 🤣🤣cheers!
I’m hearing a buzzing on your recordings that I don’t recall hearing in the past… both on this video and your fireball 100 video. Is it possible that something is loose or gone wrong on that sm57??? It’s like a crackling sound
Hey my cab! My Mesa vertical 2x12 with V-30's sounds a lil' different than my ENGL 2x12. The Mesa has a singing type thing going "Santana-ish" while the ENGL just helps the amp "chug" better, for lack of better description. My amps ENGL Ironball 20 and Fireball 25.
Which are the big differences between Ironball and Fireball 25? Thanks
Whoa! That sounds badass. I checked out the 412 version. Thing weighs 114 lbs. Heavier than my Mojotone Grand Canyon by 14 lbs. Lordy! 14 ply birch. You ain't kidding.
I wonder how this compares to the Mesa Rectifier 2x12 Angled cab? Another great video. Thanks Kyle.
That'd be nice to know...since I have a vertical 2x12 mesa 😊
As far as the 4x12 cabs go, I bought the ENGL last year and ended up selling my Mesa Rectifier 4x12. Great cabinet but the ENGL was more focused, punchier and more articulate. The Mesa cabs are awesome but the 4x12 cabs are too boomy for me. I honestly think 2x12 cabs are the best.
@@MichaelSmith-ti6qc I read that they are made with the same components and the same machines as Brit speakers are. And I'm someone who doesn't buy Chinese unless I have to.
I have a Mesa 2x12 vertical, speaker set up was originally the stock v30, then switched the top speaker to dv77. I picked up this cab in the video and it definitely sounds punchier, the low end gives far more thump to it. Not sure how much the geometry of the cab design of the Mesa vs Engl changes the sound or the speaker set up itself. But I will say that the moment I ran through the Engl cab it was instantly an improvement, across the board, taming highs, punchy low end, just a very full sounding cab. Running an engl fireball 25 through it.
@@MichaelSmith-ti6qcYour shoes are also made in China and no one compliants or cares about that.
Thanks for making my day. Everytime.
I have that can in white with matching Fireball 25. It’s great. I also run a 3 watt Laney Studio into it and it fills the room
Good video. I really enjoyed your Fireball 25 review. Man i want both!
Man, through my headphones... That Mesa sounded SICK through that cab...
the inferno had an upper end brittleness i was not expecting, mic possition would fix that but sounds like a really well built voiced cab overall
Maybe i need to try that foam stuff on my cab 🤔. I got a birch 4x12 loaded with Vintage 30's
HO-LEE-SHIT that sounds amazing!
I tried one of those cabs with a Bogner and got a killer tone but never heard an EVH with an ENGL cab. Killer stuff!
The 5150III stealth with the ENGL sounds absolutely wicked! 🤟
Yes, 5150 III with Engl cab is maybe even better match then with Engl amps. But Engls are much more versatile...
@@abcd-fs2de 💯🙌
Great cab
Thanks for another great video you're too funny😂!
For the bit about running the Mesa and the Bogner... Since these can do stereo, you can put those cabs next to each other and checker pattern the outputs of the amps, and stack them on top of each other across the tops of both cabs. Now it won't look sto stupid. Just use an ABY pedal or a Y cable coming out of your last pedal and BOOM.
Funny. I had the same thought about pairing the bogner and the Mesa together.
I also know it would be a good idea because Mark Tremonti of Creed and Alter Bridge used those together for years.
Some day I hope you play a zilla cab! All of them are custom built to spec and you can pick from many tolex options. I got one myself and it's absolutely beautiful sonically and aesthetically
I now must have this cab. This does the things. Would love to hear what an Orange OR15; Supercrush; Marshall Jubilee or 6505MH heads sound like through it.
I love vintage 30s, they're awesome speakers, but I've been experimenting with other speakers and having a blast. I just put a texas heat and swamp thang by eminence in a 2x12 and they're awesome as well.
Texas heat became my go to, i love mine with a legend speaker something amazing about that combo but I need to try the swamp thang soon
@@beautague9163 Try a manowar, thats what they use in combination with texas heats in their cabs at Arachnid cabs
I wish we had more engl access in the US. Esp the xxl. I have the 412 pro and love it.
I have one of these, a 2x12 that weighs as much as some 4x12's lol. Every amp I run through that cab just sounds awesome. Punchy and tight! Other cabs are a lot more selective, this cab rules as you can hear the individual characteristics of each amps but as their best version, if that makes sense!
Sounds awesome man. I do have to wonder what it will sound like after it is broken/burned in.
Any thoughts on the Peavey Invective cabs?
wow, some of your best tones are from that cab right now.
That cab sounds killer! I agree that the plastic jacks are a bummer especially at $1000…that said, I want one
Big bass 🤘🏽
Those blocks at the bottom are there to allow for longer screws for the feet.
I have it in Red limited Edition. One of my best cab. It is only outpaced by my Zilla Big Block with V30/G12H-75 speakers
Is that zilla also a vertical cab ?
Would LOVE if you could do a comparison between this and a Mesa vertical 2c12
This was the best Recto sound I have ever heard. What overdrive di you use? I would not recognize it :D Now the cabinet is on my way! Thanks Kyle!
Foam helps prevent reflections and the phase cancellations that follow.
Sounds like a 72S riff at the beginning
E standard riffs are hard to be original with. Good job 👍
personal favorite speaker g12t-75 but only with marshall amps.
Great I appreciate that Kyle now I want an Engl cab my wife and wallet are going to hate me now.
Sick axe
Evh 50w el34 hooked to a 2x12 evh cabinet was the loudest hardest hitting combo I've ever heard
Kyle, awesome video. any idea if that padding stuff inside the back of the cabinet can be purchased separately? I'd like to try it in a similar design 212 cab I have that at times I feel is too bright.
Nice, a little Ultra Teaser. Ultra clip when? 😉
I'd remember when we neither had one tuner but a diapason and a shitty keyboard, but they look so perfect now. Namastè.
Legitness!
We need more slant 212s. They’re so damn sexy
10000% Agree
Slant cabs have been preferred since the 70's
I wanted that cabinet but its sooooo heavey!!!!
a dude in my area has a ENGL Custom Shop 4x12 with 4x V30s in it and a blackstar metal 100 for $1000 for both but theres a huge crack in the blackstar head with a weird metal brace type repair.
i pm him to see if he wants to sell just the ENGL Custom Shop 4x12 its blue snake skin its dam near mint.
I’ve been fighting the urge to order an Arachnid cab. If you could order one and give us all a review,that would be awesome!!
🤘💀🤘
I wonder how this compares to that Harley Benton upright offset slant 2x12...
I think the Bogner sounded the best OMFG. At first I really liked the Inferno but then the Bogner sounded way more brutal.
4:22 I need this sampled in a song (POP, aw geez)
What song is the riff at 8:36? Engl cab sounds sick!!
hi kyle!What about the differences from 4X12 engl cab in your previous video?Is it worth to go to 4x12 engl cab?im interested only for recordings
That evh rips
Hey Kyle. Give the PPC212V a go.
hey Kyle, your sweetwater link in description is missing...
I literally just bought this with the fireball 25 lol
Kyle, do you find the Chinese V30s ( same as in this ENGL 212) to sound any different or less quality than the UK 30’s when installed in a proper cab like this one? I have a Krankenstein cab with absolutely stellar construction, and I loaded it with 4 Chinese V30s from my Randall XL. The sound difference from cab to cab was astonishing… however the tinkerer / purist in me, wants to purchase 4 UK 30s and see if they make a difference. Figure you’re the guy to ask on this subject. Thanks!
Hi dude,
Have you tried any FAME GN412a ???
Are they any good?
Thanks
I wish major companies like this would offer the option of buying unloaded. I have a bunch of speakers and I don't need two more.
Looking inside that, no wonder they are on the heavy side. I might try foam on the back of my Marshall 4x12.
Speakers are so cheap wholesale, the cabinet manufacturer would only be able to knock off like $100-200. Mesa will sell you an unloaded cab.
Kyle i have a question related to this cab, i know you have diezel einstein me too and i use engl 412 pro but for small thing and to be more portable i want to buy this vertical 2x12 can the diezel Einstein sit on the top and be safe because it is very deep and l am afraid, thank you and love your videos
Yooo, I own this cab and put a pair of WGS Reaper HPs in it!!! 🤘
Sounds Crunchy Mmm i like
Very interesting how these cab will sound with 7, 8 string tones
Kyle, I think sweetwater needs to let you keep this for 2 or 3 more.... Years and use it for all amp demos during that time period..and after you are done I will purchase it from my Sweetwater rep as "scratch and dent".. sound good man??
I actually like the look of angled cabs more
is the v30 in this cab a uk made one or is it the regular chinese
i ve 2 of engl 2x12. i changed v30s immediately. One has 2 greenbacks and one has 2 eminence legend 1218. They sound spectacular
Kyle is getting jacked
This video is from a month ago, my trip to Europe made me considerably softer and fatter. Lolol
I’d like to hear 2 side by side compared to a conventional 4/12
I have a question, how do 2 16 ohm speakers make only 8 ohms?
I would love to see you compare this to the Harley Benton 212 vintage vertical! Same idea but cheaper. Is the Engl cab really better sounding? 🤔
I will guarantee you that the Engl is built miles and miles better than the Harley Benton
😂 he's gonna Screw another cabinet man !🤫😳🥳
I wonder how this compairs to Voctory 2x12 cabs
I am a S**T for Engl - Thanks to older Dimmu Borgir.
Cabinet will be obtained soon. Thank you Kyle 🤘
Is it my setup or is there some clipping at 9:18? That cab is amazing by the way.
No, I also hear it, and it's annoying AF. It starts around 8:39. I'm using 6-inch 100W studio monitors that reveal a lot.
I used to install ultra high end stereo systems in Lamborghini’s, Ferrari’s, Porsche’s etc. We would build cabinets for up to 2 15” woofers and we had to get the area of the cab for that particular speaker. My question is I have a Harley Benton 2 x 12 cab with Celestion V30’s. So I have my $300 Celestion 2 x 12 cab versus what looks to be a $1000-2k ENGL cab.
What makes it so special?
The Engl will have far superior build quality - Better materials, better construction, i.e. proper jointing at the corners, thicker plywood, higher quality plywood, etc. With that said - whether it sounds better or not will be totally up to the end user. If you love your Harley Benton, then there's not reason to look elsewhere at more expensive cabs!
SIIIIIICKKKK!!!!
Hey Kyle, quick question. One expression you use a lot is "percussive low end". Could you explain what you mean with this? Thanks man, great videos!
Hey man, think about a kick drum. When the kick drum hits and you're in the room with it, not only do you hear it, but you FEEL it. The frequencies and the air moving. It's typically punchy, and quick. Low end on a guitar amp can be the same way, and that's typically what I imagine as percussive when I'm hitting palm mutes on an amp/cab.
@@belligerentamateur thanks for the explanation.