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I'd absolutely go for the Canon. It's relatively cheap, and the lens lineup is huge and way more affordable than Sony. What's the point of having a DSLR with just one lens?
It didn’t have any good aps-c lenses, now they finally have. But with Canon aps-c lineup you could get a tele, a standard and an ultra wide zoom for like 400 total
Hi guys, I am new or beginner in dslr business. I don't know anything about dslr camera's. The G85 was indeed was under my radar but at that time it was little more expensive for me. So in Holland I could buy a Canon 200D/SL2 with a lenses 24mm/f1.4 and 50mm/f1.8 for 700€. It was a discount action a few months ago. I believe it was not bad to start and get some experience with DSLR camera's. Conclusion: For my budget was canon 200D/SL2 the best option. I believe you have much better options out their. I wait and see what 2018 will bring for budget 4K camera. Thanks for your helps or advices, I will make better choices in the nearby future because of you guys. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I had a Sony, wx350, point and shoot, before I got my a6000, so the menu scheme was not a problem, as I was familiar... I think the a6000 is a great camera at it's price point, (about $150.00, US less than the sl2 with the kit) The auto focus is very good and the a6000 is pretty good in low light and I do like the smaller form factor... Thx, Moses.
I own both of them, prefer SL2. The touch screen on SL2 and Dual Pixel autofocus is just a clear win... I also like the lens selections of Canon. I have 24mm f2.8 pancake, 40mm f2.8 pancake, 10-18mm wide angle, and of course 50mm f1.8. They are all very affordable, and super lightweight and small. I use 5D4 for serious photos, 80D+400mm f5.6 for wildlife, and SL2 for casual or long hiking. If used in the right way, the difference between 5D4+L lens and SL2 plus pancake lens is not that significant on instagram. On computer or large screen, the difference is obvious. I'm going to give A6000 to my mom, to replace her point-and-shot. My only concern is that she might get annoyed by the battery life. Otherwise, A6000 is also a great intro-camera.
Great video. I would definitely use the Canon. I've owned the Sony a5100 once upon a time and really didn't like the feel and menus. I've owned a few Canons at this point and they are all easier to use. Thanks for making this.
My wife has the A5100 and SL2 now and she wants to carry both around. A5100 a little smaller and she likes it for vlogging. Wished it had an internal mic.
I love my SL2, it can achieve such an amazing picture quality despite how small it is! It's great that Canon trickled down so many features into this camera especially the Digic 7 processor, Dual-Pixel AF, and the same 24mp APS-C sensor as the 77D and T7i. I literally went 4-5 days straight of golden hour shooting sessions each for about 3-4hours with the camera on/standby, taking roughly 30-50 shots (20 of them w/liveview for landscape focus stacking) and only by day 4 it finally dropped from full battery meter to 2/3 battery meter...talk about great battery life! The main reason I chose the SL2 as my first camera was because I always loved the look and feel of DSLRs, but wanted something small enough to have the versatility to eventually try street photography without the sacrifice of lens choices for other photography disciplines like wildlife and landscape photography. I am more than pleased with my investment and I will probably continue to use this camera for years to come easily :)
The amount of snacks you packed into that bag made me so happy! 😎 How does the size and weight compare to the T6s? Have you compared the two? (Asking for a tiny friend.)
For any Canon beginner, I'd absolutely recommend the t7i/800D instead of this SL2. Only because of that Slower and ancient View Finder focusing system.
Thanks for sharing. SL2 was my choice. Though I am sure I could work with both, the SL2 is simply a joy to use, so am sure I use it more and as a result create more opportunities. For video work, the touch focus is superb. Fantastic for rack focusing.
My first "serious" camera was a Sony NEX6. I never used a full size DSLR so for me the small grip feels more natural. I guess it's what you are used to that truly defines what is comfortable.
I have owned both, and currently still own the 200D (I'm based in the UK). The dual pixel AF also works for stills in live view mode, and I find myself tending to use it like a mirrorless camera that happens to have a mirror box than the other way around. Results from this camera when combined with lenses like the Sigma 24-105 Art, or the Canon L series equivalent are outstanding.
A great review of contrasting cameras -- nicely done. I love my Sony A6300. It's my grab and go camera. Since I mostly shoot in A-mode, I don't find the controls daunting. I would love that dual-pixel autofocus, but I also want great video quality that the A6300 has.
Toby - I’m a canon shooter and just bought the Fuji xt20. In my experience the weight is a huge benefit but the bigger benefit is the glass. I was in Italy for 10 days and took camera everywhere. Always had the 18-55 and 10-24 with me with a manfrotto pixi mini in my pocket! That would never happen with my canon t2i on which I have a 15-85 lens.
Great video comparison of these two cameras! I'd choose the sl2 because I'm a beginner and canon has that teaching software. I subscribed to your channel to see more videos like this one! 👍👏
Thanks bro very I formative almost a week I have been collecting information on different models finally zeroed on 200d for user friendly flip screen good quality video record but Sony was in back of my kind though we are into the final phase of 2018 I have decided on canon 200d even the pricing of canon Is deal fixer value for money plus user interface plus flip screen beat the Sony 😀😀
I can throw in my opinion on this youtube video as I have recently come back from 15 day cruise holiday in the Caribbean. I took with me canon 7D, sigma 17-70 f2.8 DC lens, EF 24-105L IS USM Lens, 580EX mkII speedlite, Sony NEX5R with 18-55 f4-5.6 OSS and 16mm OSS f.2.8, and not forgetting my samsung galaxy s7 smart phone. Firstly the 7D is by far the best camera to use and is best all rounder with fast auto focusing, decent video, 2 lens give me close and far reach capabilities, plus easy to change modes & settings. Down side large, heavy, takes a lot of room on my day bag when on shore Excursions, plus locals notice your gear very easily. One last point is i did a lot of ambient photos on deck with a setting sun with the 7D and the speedlite. Which worked really well and got some great photos. Now when I asked people to take a photo of me and the wife I had to explain a long while on how to use 7D as no one had ever use a dslr ( there are of course people on ship with dslr's they were never around d when I needed them ) and it was heavy for them to hold. The biggest issue was no one was use to a eye view finder on a camera ! The Sony nex5r was very to carry around and video is very good. It does not look expensive and blends in very well. It is easy to take to ship restaurants, bars etc as I could put it in my jacket pocket. Down side are bright sun light on the screen makes almost impossible to compose a shoot. Trying to change settings in the poor sony menu is difficult enough and ever more so when you can see the screen in bright sun light. No off camera flash means ambient shots on deck with a setting sun were very challenging as time and fill light is not on my side ! The main reason people use smart phones is easy off use. Photos around the bars, dinning tables, swimming pools, candid shots were so easy with the smart phone. With the Pro feature on the s7 I can get ambient shoots, silky water fall photos etc. Main draw back for me is no zoom, no ability to trigger of camera flash. I do need a smaller dslr like the 200d for traveling as it gives me almost best of all world's, though not the top performing in each category I can use my good glass on the 200d and the 580EX mkII speedlite . Buying into top sony G master glass will cost me a fortune considering I already own 2 L grade canon lens. At the moment I would need faster AF and more AF points, thumb stick to be a perfect small travellers dslr. If those features were on the 200d I would buy it now ! The smart phone IMO gives the best play back due to screen size and high resolution. Camera manufacturers need to look a smart phone app developers to improve reviewing, renaming, sharing and editing photos stored on the camera. Sorry for the essay, so one last point to mention. I did video the resident dance tutor couple performing a show case dance from a high view ponit on all 3 devices. The dance couple like the smart phone footage best as it was clear ( even though the scene was in low light ) as it was shoot in 4k and viewed on a high resolution screen and easily transferred to their smart phone. I had no laptop with me so transferring files was not happening from my 2 cameras. We live in an instant world which needs to be incorporated in to cameras to compete with some very capable smart phones.
I almost bought the SL-1 but got the 3Ti instead because of it articulating screen particularly. I like the compactness of the SL-2 with its new features I'd be tempted to replace the T3i with it. I looked at the Sony mirrorless system and their limited lens selection was a turn off for me.
To me the big problem with sony is the Lens Selection, particularly with aps -c line, is not great, is limited and expensive. Then you have the master series while nice and sharp are huge and super expensive. Canon value on the long run is better imo, you have more Lens to choose from. More used market , more 3rd Patty Lens and accessories at better price points. I would love to see a Canon sl2 with a EVF, that would be a hit I think.
I can adapt virtually any vintage (any most modern) glass to my a6000. I'm not sure where you came up with that line of thinking. Sony may not have as much native glass as Canon, but the mirrorless world has opened up a lot of possibilities. I have a whole set of early 60's russian glass I use on my A series camera for a vintage look in video and photography. There are tons of options out there. Anymore, most camera systems are pretty darn good- pick your brand
Tim Ryan yes you can adapt other Lens, but is not native , not as fast and not as small , plus you need then to spend more money on the adapter. But if that works for you then that is great. I am Just putting out my opinion.
they usually adapt any lenses they already have before, might it canon or some vintage lenses. Buying new pricy L canon lenses to be specifically to be adapted is stupid move.
good for you, for me brand is meaningless, don't have any brand loyalty or so whatsoever. Have 3 different systems from different manufactures in my possession.
I need more than 4 seconds of screen time to make adjustments. I’m hoping that I can get it to change the settings to 1 minute otherwise this camera is not going to work for me. I have one on order. Great video. Top notch video for me. Thanks. ❤❤❤
I had Canon EOS 450D and was thinking about going up to 90D or something (when it comes out). However, I realized that maybe after those 10 years I don't have to go up to get better rig. And EOS 200D (SL2) beats my old camera in virtually every aspect, obviously. I don't regret this buy at all. Is it perfect? No. It's smaller and AE lock is kinda hard to reach now, and there are other small annoyances. But there are tons of benefits! Video, articulated touch display, 24mpx, processor, fast live view... I mean, for this price, I'm totally satisfied. My plans to go up their line to two-digitD camera is postponed for many years. :-) Bravo, Canon, this little thing has the right muscle for the right price.
I love my a6300, but the SL2 looks like a great option, especially as a family video camera. I use a G85 for most video, but that Canon DPAF would be super nice, as would that lens lineup!
I think I prefer the Sony. I know that I can get adaptors and add cheap lenses and it seems like it has more options. I wish it had an articulating touch screen, but there are always trade offs.
It's a tough question but I think that the Sony's smaller size would tip the scales for me. (Currently learning about photography on a Canon 20D that I bought about 14 months ago. I'll probably stick with it through this year.) I've watched several of your videos over the past few months, including some that are a few years old. The information has always been good but you have become a very polished teacher/presenter. I hope you have a great 2018.
Having an articulated screen is something I really don't want to do without since I've used several cameras with it. It simply comes in handy all too often.
I have a FZ-200 looking to upgrade, was looking at the T7i and never knew the SL2 was the little brother until now. Seems good enough as an upgrade to get the better sensor higher MP and touch track focus. I see the A6000 and it feels a bit hollow. WHat I'd miss form the FZ-200 is the 12fps burst rate and mic & headphones jacks non shared. What I gain is APS-C 2x the megapixels and touch screen and track focus. Thanks for making the video! Well done I wish the pace was a bit faster as a view several videos by other people, I want to cut to he chase! But that's me.
So, can you suggest a camera plus lens for a complete beginner under $1000. I am interested in portraits, landscape and kids in action (not heavy sports, just regular jumping here and there and playing in the park).
I went from Nikon to a Sony a6000 wanted a smaller camera and I started doing more writing than photography that was August of 2017 in October got a 7Dmkii and now getting a SL2. The SL2 is a better choice for me since I'm getting back into videos again. I like the Sony a6x00 series a lot, I do have pro and cons about them though. Where the a6000 comes into its own as a second camera along with my DSLR its great for when I'm doing events and might want to share pictures on social media, the wifi is very good, auto focus is very fast. Battery issues I don't have them two batteries are enough for me. The SL2 for me being able to use my Canon lenses, the flip out screen are my main points 1080 vs 4k most people are watching on mobile devices, 1080 is more than enough, If I had a 4k capable camera I would still probably shoot in 1080 anyway. I don't have to pick the SL2 is my choice.
After I reviewed a number of cameras like Canon T6, Canon T6i, Canon T6, Canon T6i, Sony a6000, Sony a6300, Panasonic G7, Nikon D3400, Nikon D5600 Andrés Canon SL2, I decided to buy the lady because in the end, it gave me the best value for my money and needs like an amateur photographer. If you compare the SL2 to the T6 and T7 models, tthe latter have an older image processor, the Panasonic is older and the Sony models have not a articulated LCD. Msybe the camera's price is different in Chile, e.g. SL2 cost around US$ 1.000 and both T6 and T7 cost around US$ 400 and US$500. However, the features are the same.
I would go with the Canon, definitely. For it's ease of use mainly, as I am very new to the world of photography. I would work my way through the different modes with the help of the camera itself! Brilliant!
Between canon SL2 and the Canon 70D, which camera would be ideal for filming Quality TH-cam videos for business products? In your professional opinion!
Great video! As primarily a storyteller I d probably choose the SL2. 4K is great but so many films have been make before 4k was available As a film maker I should be able to tell a story with my Galaxy S9 cellphone. But that’s just me, If I had maybe 5grand to spend on a system I’d probably choose the A6500 or even the GH5 but the 1.4 or 1.2 manual lenes are gonna be a bigger financial investment. But the SL2 image quality seems to Be capable of telling the “STORY” which is my main focus........Story First. Thanks for this video AWESOME
Everyone has their own opinion... but as someone who moved from Canon TO Sony, I have NOT experienced the "disadvantages" mentioned in this video. Canon is OK... but Sony offers much more "Bang for the Buck" and I am a believer now.
Loved the video! I use the SL2, do you have a tutorial video on how to use the external audio on the camera? I have had this camera for days now and I can not get any sound when I use my external microphone, and this was the main reason I bought this camera.
People people! Get a good lens. I had a t5 for a long time. Upgraded to t6i and sL2. Get a good editing laptop. 2012 MacBook and up. With maximum ram!!! Get good lenses. It’s all in the lens. I prefer sL2 because of new digic7 professor and the fact that it was dual pixel AF system. Couldn’t be happier. T7i,t6i, or sL2 are all great!! Not trying to get tangled up with nikon or Sony
I just bought 200d , since 2016 Im using mirrorless and thanks god that's good experience use dslr instead od mirrorless... I Know mirrorless have evf but for me better feeling is use optical view Finder 😉 In live view is no difference here anyway...
This is the Camera I recommend to all my friends and family who are looking to get into photography. The size, features for the price point, and great selection of budget apsc Canon glass makes it a winner in my book
I understand not wanting to use the SLR parts of the SL2. It is sort of a good, if rather bulky, mirrorless camera without an EVF. As soon as you want a viewfinder though it becomes a rather poor SLR. Anyone who uses a viewfinder should go for the Sony A6x00.
Which one to choose between canon 200d or nikon 5300..? I'm a beginner,this is my first dslr,from india,compared a lot and within my budget I choose d5300 now a small confusion between these two models,some one help,Thanks in advance
If in doubt, check this out! You will clearly know which one you want after watching this "Nikon d5300 ditched for Canon SL2 !! Best Decision Ever!" The reviewer is SMART and talking from first hand experience with both cameras. th-cam.com/video/ko5t94eu9fI/w-d-xo.html
I have sl2 for videos, now i bought a sl3 for 4k. With good lenses you get awesome quality. I use sigma ART 18-35 and sigma ART 50-100mm, those lenses are the best lenses for Apsc sensor
I'm really appreciate your review about these camera. But I'd love to see more specific comparison about burst shoot in moving object conditions (not in sports, just walk or jogging or spinning around). I'm confused of buying canon 200D and 800D because of focus points. I don't know if 200D can shoot moving object as accurate as 800D or not? And between canon 800D and sony a6000? Thank you so much! You don't need to make a video, if you can answer me (not base on specs), I would appriciate!
please suggest me a camera for make a youtube videos purpose please i very confuse about it Sony A6000 or Canon SL200 and i my main purpose is to make videos so please suggest me sir i am very confuse
I had the Canon sl1 and switched to the Sony a6000. I can get past the slightly clumsy Sony interface because I've gotten used to it but the biggest issues in my opinion are the non-touch screen focus and the lens range. Sony lenses are limited and overpriced. Way overpriced compared to the selection of second hand Canon lenses you can choose from. The deciding factor was that the Sony is a bit better in low light and the small size of the Sony can keep subjects more comfortable.
Wow really wanted to trade in my SL1 for an SL2 for just the articulating screen but after seeing this video I want to now for so many other reasons. I always found the SL1 was an underrated camera.
thanks! i have been thinking a lot about what camera to get, as a beginner in the photography area, it helps me to a lot, now i think i will go to Canon. thanks!
I asked Google about reviews of Sony support. 1 is by far the most common I found, both for cameras and TV. Sometimes for gear valued at some tens of thousands of $US. Don't believe me, do your own check. Note, I'm talking about support, not cameras and TVs. The products are well regarded.
So support review is a thing now? are the review reliable and validated? is that before or after Sony launch camera dedicated support? The problem with many electronic customer companies is they outsource service to local 3rd party company, not only Sony but Canon, Panasonic, Ricoh, etc as well. I share my own frustation about my canon printer which took 4 month to service, cmooon.
ill be happy if you can upload the picturs of moving subject i want to see the difrent if you can and thank you for the video i relly love it. and ill be happy to know which you think best for begginer for travel and famly photos and again thank you
Excellent video. No one wants to move from their smartphone to a dslr to NOT get magic coming from a $600-$1200 purchase. Canon video and photos just look the most pleasant and magical to my eyes, which if photography/videography is to be viewed as an art then this is what matters most. I watch videos all day of people talking about tech sheets, mainly “I jumped ship to Sony from canon because of specs” well, that’s doing beginners an injustice because beginners will literally only care about artistic magic....and Canon’s got it. ....(and before someone jumps down my throat about the use of a subjective word like “magic”, just remember photography is an artform, if you don’t know or feel magic when you see it then maybe art just isn’t your thing)
and for fair comparison, people usually pick Sony when they are more experienced and know how to overcome things like colour in post processing. Sony's colour is never good out of the box but when you are fidling with it even in the camera setting you will surprise of how Sony's cameras potential is, the setting are not just the plain contrast, colour, DR optimizer, picture style etc, but also more advanced stuff like gamma, colour spaces, knee, colour phase, etc Also a lot of people i know pick Sony because of the powerful raw and isoinvariant sensor.
Oh wow, you are from Seattle? I am running our local TH-camr meetup here. Feel free to come by. Thanks for your detailed look at the SL2. I ordered one a few days ago and am even more stoked now for it to arrive!
Will be the Canon Sl2 for me, cuz i use my old T3i with 3 cheap lenses in Canon EF 50MM F1.8 STM , Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM and my favorite Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM. Just waiting for it to come on sale and i will SNAP purchase it!!! Will be sad to say bye to my lovely old T3i tho =P
JMO, but the autofocus system on the A6000 series kicks Canon's butt all day long (especially in the video department) and I can use virtually any vintage glass on the A6000 series, which opens tons of possibilities for creative photography or film making.
Tim Ryan especially NOT in the video department. In the photo you may wanna say. Canon DPAF not only is better for tracking, but is waaaay more controllable via touch screen and it looks much smoother and cinematic. Non native lenses have no autofocus in video. Yes, when he compared the pictures of the kid on the swing, Canon colors looked way better, richer, contrastier, tastier
i have been using an xt2 for the past year and just changed to an sl2 not really doing 4k videos and i find it amusing that the sl2 photo quality is better in my opinion than the fuji. also considering that lenses are cheaper on the canon line. sony seems to be outdated in 2019 ...
I wonder why you didn't talk about prices. Do you have some interest in pushing Sony products? I mean, you are comparing a Sony Camera that costs 900 dls. against a Canon product that is 300 dls. cheaper! That should make up for the small differences that you see in the end results of both products. That is called value, and it is very important for most of us consumers! All in all, keep up the good work with your videos!!
I love my Nikon but I hate that is always chasing the focus and that it doesn't have a flip screen... ... I think I should give canon a chance seems like a better option
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I'd absolutely go for the Canon. It's relatively cheap, and the lens lineup is huge and way more affordable than Sony. What's the point of having a DSLR with just one lens?
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Sony has loads of lenses and adapters to use basically any lens you’d want to...
It didn’t have any good aps-c lenses, now they finally have. But with Canon aps-c lineup you could get a tele, a standard and an ultra wide zoom for like 400 total
Same reason I bought Canon 200D
I have brought Canon 200D/SL2 mainly for videograph and I think I make the right choice. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Mike Allen hmm could have got something like a G85 for the same price with hugely better features
Mike Allen Nope, not really.
Hi guys, I am new or beginner in dslr business. I don't know anything about dslr camera's. The G85 was indeed was under my radar but at that time it was little more expensive for me. So in Holland I could buy a Canon 200D/SL2 with a lenses 24mm/f1.4 and 50mm/f1.8 for 700€. It was a discount action a few months ago. I believe it was not bad to start and get some experience with DSLR camera's. Conclusion: For my budget was canon 200D/SL2 the best option. I believe you have much better options out their. I wait and see what 2018 will bring for budget 4K camera. Thanks for your helps or advices, I will make better choices in the nearby future because of you guys. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Wrong choice ahahaha
Maybe I should do better next time, do you have any subjection for me Mr. Angriest Photographer
I had a Sony, wx350, point and shoot, before I got my a6000, so the menu scheme was not a problem, as I was
familiar... I think the a6000 is a great camera at it's price point, (about $150.00, US less than the sl2 with the kit)
The auto focus is very good and the a6000 is pretty good in low light and I do like the smaller form factor... Thx, Moses.
I own both of them, prefer SL2. The touch screen on SL2 and Dual Pixel autofocus is just a clear win... I also like the lens selections of Canon. I have 24mm f2.8 pancake, 40mm f2.8 pancake, 10-18mm wide angle, and of course 50mm f1.8. They are all very affordable, and super lightweight and small. I use 5D4 for serious photos, 80D+400mm f5.6 for wildlife, and SL2 for casual or long hiking. If used in the right way, the difference between 5D4+L lens and SL2 plus pancake lens is not that significant on instagram. On computer or large screen, the difference is obvious.
I'm going to give A6000 to my mom, to replace her point-and-shot. My only concern is that she might get annoyed by the battery life. Otherwise, A6000 is also a great intro-camera.
Great video. I would definitely use the Canon. I've owned the Sony a5100 once upon a time and really didn't like the feel and menus. I've owned a few Canons at this point and they are all easier to use. Thanks for making this.
My wife has the A5100 and SL2 now and she wants to carry both around. A5100 a little smaller and she likes it for vlogging. Wished it had an internal mic.
I love my SL2, it can achieve such an amazing picture quality despite how small it is! It's great that Canon trickled down so many features into this camera especially the Digic 7 processor, Dual-Pixel AF, and the same 24mp APS-C sensor as the 77D and T7i. I literally went 4-5 days straight of golden hour shooting sessions each for about 3-4hours with the camera on/standby, taking roughly 30-50 shots (20 of them w/liveview for landscape focus stacking) and only by day 4 it finally dropped from full battery meter to 2/3 battery meter...talk about great battery life! The main reason I chose the SL2 as my first camera was because I always loved the look and feel of DSLRs, but wanted something small enough to have the versatility to eventually try street photography without the sacrifice of lens choices for other photography disciplines like wildlife and landscape photography. I am more than pleased with my investment and I will probably continue to use this camera for years to come easily :)
For myself the SL2 is the winner because I have most of the cannon budget lenses.
Great job on your script/layout of the whole video, your mic was working great, thanks for the A/B comparison...and you have a great vibe.
Awesome, thank you!
The amount of snacks you packed into that bag made me so happy! 😎
How does the size and weight compare to the T6s? Have you compared the two? (Asking for a tiny friend.)
For any Canon beginner, I'd absolutely recommend the t7i/800D instead of this SL2. Only because of that Slower and ancient View Finder focusing system.
Thanks for sharing. SL2 was my choice. Though I am sure I could work with both, the SL2 is simply a joy to use, so am sure I use it more and as a result create more opportunities. For video work, the touch focus is superb. Fantastic for rack focusing.
My first "serious" camera was a Sony NEX6. I never used a full size DSLR so for me the small grip feels more natural.
I guess it's what you are used to that truly defines what is comfortable.
I have owned both, and currently still own the 200D (I'm based in the UK). The dual pixel AF also works for stills in live view mode, and I find myself tending to use it like a mirrorless camera that happens to have a mirror box than the other way around. Results from this camera when combined with lenses like the Sigma 24-105 Art, or the Canon L series equivalent are outstanding.
Owned the SL1 and now the SL2 and it's awesome great photos awesome video!
Great video! I picked up the SL2 and love it. The DPAF, light weight, and of ease of use are just a few things that I love about this camera.
T. Frank: And I love your SL2 video!
A great review of contrasting cameras -- nicely done. I love my Sony A6300. It's my grab and go camera. Since I mostly shoot in A-mode, I don't find the controls daunting. I would love that dual-pixel autofocus, but I also want great video quality that the A6300 has.
Got my nephew the SL2 for Christmas. Pretty impressed with it. Nice little camera. Love your Camera bag by the way!
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Can I be your nephew as well?
I wish my aunties bought me stuff
Toby - I’m a canon shooter and just bought the Fuji xt20. In my experience the weight is a huge benefit but the bigger benefit is the glass. I was in Italy for 10 days and took camera everywhere. Always had the 18-55 and 10-24 with me with a manfrotto pixi mini in my pocket! That would never happen with my canon t2i on which I have a 15-85 lens.
15-85 is a heavy and kind of big lens. I wouldn't travel with it either. But I HAVE travelled with the SL2 and it was sheer joy.
Great video comparison of these two cameras! I'd choose the sl2 because I'm a beginner and canon has that teaching software. I subscribed to your channel to see more videos like this one! 👍👏
Thanks Scott!
wow, what a great review, ive seen dozens of reviews, yours was the best one, keep it up man
So for still picture, 200d is the right choice?
Thanks bro very I formative almost a week I have been collecting information on different models finally zeroed on 200d for user friendly flip screen good quality video record but Sony was in back of my kind though we are into the final phase of 2018 I have decided on canon 200d even the pricing of canon Is deal fixer value for money plus user interface plus flip screen beat the Sony 😀😀
I can throw in my opinion on this youtube video as I have recently come back from 15 day cruise holiday in the Caribbean. I took with me canon 7D, sigma 17-70 f2.8 DC lens, EF 24-105L IS USM Lens, 580EX mkII speedlite, Sony NEX5R with 18-55 f4-5.6 OSS and 16mm OSS f.2.8, and not forgetting my samsung galaxy s7 smart phone.
Firstly the 7D is by far the best camera to use and is best all rounder with fast auto focusing, decent video, 2 lens give me close and far reach capabilities, plus easy to change modes & settings. Down side large, heavy, takes a lot of room on my day bag when on shore Excursions, plus locals notice your gear very easily. One last point is i did a lot of ambient photos on deck with a setting sun with the 7D and the speedlite. Which worked really well and got some great photos. Now when I asked people to take a photo of me and the wife I had to explain a long while on how to use 7D as no one had ever use a dslr ( there are of course people on ship with dslr's they were never around d when I needed them ) and it was heavy for them to hold. The biggest issue was no one was use to a eye view finder on a camera !
The Sony nex5r was very to carry around and video is very good. It does not look expensive and blends in very well. It is easy to take to ship restaurants, bars etc as I could put it in my jacket pocket. Down side are bright sun light on the screen makes almost impossible to compose a shoot. Trying to change settings in the poor sony menu is difficult enough and ever more so when you can see the screen in bright sun light. No off camera flash means ambient shots on deck with a setting sun were very challenging as time and fill light is not on my side !
The main reason people use smart phones is easy off use. Photos around the bars, dinning tables, swimming pools, candid shots were so easy with the smart phone. With the Pro feature on the s7 I can get ambient shoots, silky water fall photos etc. Main draw back for me is no zoom, no ability to trigger of camera flash.
I do need a smaller dslr like the 200d for traveling as it gives me almost best of all world's, though not the top performing in each category I can use my good glass on the 200d and the 580EX mkII speedlite . Buying into top sony G master glass will cost me a fortune considering I already own 2 L grade canon lens. At the moment I would need faster AF and more AF points, thumb stick to be a perfect small travellers dslr. If those features were on the 200d I would buy it now !
The smart phone IMO gives the best play back due to screen size and high resolution. Camera manufacturers need to look a smart phone app developers to improve reviewing, renaming, sharing and editing photos stored on the camera.
Sorry for the essay, so one last point to mention. I did video the resident dance tutor couple performing a show case dance from a high view ponit on all 3 devices. The dance couple like the smart phone footage best as it was clear ( even though the scene was in low light ) as it was shoot in 4k and viewed on a high resolution screen and easily transferred to their smart phone. I had no laptop with me so transferring files was not happening from my 2 cameras.
We live in an instant world which needs to be incorporated in to cameras to compete with some very capable smart phones.
Awesome! And a special thanks to your kids for their help. Happy 2018!
I almost bought the SL-1 but got the 3Ti instead because of it articulating screen particularly. I like the compactness of the SL-2 with its new features I'd be tempted to replace the T3i with it. I looked at the Sony mirrorless system and their limited lens selection was a turn off for me.
To me the big problem with sony is the Lens Selection, particularly with aps -c line, is not great, is limited and expensive. Then you have the master series while nice and sharp are huge and super expensive. Canon value on the long run is better imo, you have more Lens to choose from. More used market , more 3rd Patty Lens and accessories at better price points. I would love to see a Canon sl2 with a EVF, that would be a hit I think.
I can adapt virtually any vintage (any most modern) glass to my a6000. I'm not sure where you came up with that line of thinking. Sony may not have as much native glass as Canon, but the mirrorless world has opened up a lot of possibilities. I have a whole set of early 60's russian glass I use on my A series camera for a vintage look in video and photography. There are tons of options out there. Anymore, most camera systems are pretty darn good- pick your brand
Tim Ryan yes you can adapt other Lens, but is not native , not as fast and not as small , plus you need then to spend more money on the adapter. But if that works for you then that is great. I am Just putting out my opinion.
When Sony users adapt lenses they are usually adapting Canon mount lenses.
they usually adapt any lenses they already have before, might it canon or some vintage lenses. Buying new pricy L canon lenses to be specifically to be adapted is stupid move.
I was never a fan a Sony products. I'll stick with Canon. If I was going to switch brands, it would be Nikon.
good for you, for me brand is meaningless, don't have any brand loyalty or so whatsoever. Have 3 different systems from different manufactures in my possession.
LOL. Double good for you.
This is a super helpful video! A lot of my questions about these two cameras have been answered so thank you! :)
I need more than 4 seconds of screen time to make adjustments. I’m hoping that I can get it to change the settings to 1 minute otherwise this camera is not going to work for me. I have one on order. Great video. Top notch video for me. Thanks. ❤❤❤
I had Canon EOS 450D and was thinking about going up to 90D or something (when it comes out). However, I realized that maybe after those 10 years I don't have to go up to get better rig. And EOS 200D (SL2) beats my old camera in virtually every aspect, obviously. I don't regret this buy at all. Is it perfect? No. It's smaller and AE lock is kinda hard to reach now, and there are other small annoyances. But there are tons of benefits! Video, articulated touch display, 24mpx, processor, fast live view... I mean, for this price, I'm totally satisfied. My plans to go up their line to two-digitD camera is postponed for many years. :-) Bravo, Canon, this little thing has the right muscle for the right price.
I love my a6300, but the SL2 looks like a great option, especially as a family video camera. I use a G85 for most video, but that Canon DPAF would be super nice, as would that lens lineup!
I think I prefer the Sony. I know that I can get adaptors and add cheap lenses and it seems like it has more options. I wish it had an articulating touch screen, but there are always trade offs.
It's a tough question but I think that the Sony's smaller size would tip the scales for me. (Currently learning about photography on a Canon 20D that I bought about 14 months ago. I'll probably stick with it through this year.)
I've watched several of your videos over the past few months, including some that are a few years old. The information has always been good but you have become a very polished teacher/presenter. I hope you have a great 2018.
Having an articulated screen is something I really don't want to do without since I've used several cameras with it. It simply comes in handy all too often.
I have a FZ-200 looking to upgrade, was looking at the T7i and never knew the SL2 was the little brother until now. Seems good enough as an upgrade to get the better sensor higher MP and touch track focus. I see the A6000 and it feels a bit hollow. WHat I'd miss form the FZ-200 is the 12fps burst rate and mic & headphones jacks non shared. What I gain is APS-C 2x the megapixels and touch screen and track focus. Thanks for making the video! Well done I wish the pace was a bit faster as a view several videos by other people, I want to cut to he chase! But that's me.
Really thorough review. Thank you!
So, can you suggest a camera plus lens for a complete beginner under $1000. I am interested in portraits, landscape and kids in action (not heavy sports, just regular jumping here and there and playing in the park).
I went from Nikon to a Sony a6000 wanted a smaller camera and I started doing more writing than photography that was August of 2017 in October got a 7Dmkii and now getting a SL2.
The SL2 is a better choice for me since I'm getting back into videos again.
I like the Sony a6x00 series a lot, I do have pro and cons about them though.
Where the a6000 comes into its own as a second camera along with my DSLR its great for when I'm doing events and might want to share pictures on social media, the wifi is very good, auto focus is very fast. Battery issues I don't have them two batteries are enough for me.
The SL2 for me being able to use my Canon lenses, the flip out screen are my main points
1080 vs 4k most people are watching on mobile devices, 1080 is more than enough, If I had a 4k capable camera I would still probably shoot in 1080 anyway.
I don't have to pick the SL2 is my choice.
which one is best for artistic images, landscape photos and beaches and mountains? I am really in doubt between sl2 and a6000 for photos.
Sony a6000 would be my pick.
After I reviewed a number of cameras like Canon T6, Canon T6i, Canon T6, Canon T6i, Sony a6000, Sony a6300, Panasonic G7, Nikon D3400, Nikon D5600 Andrés Canon SL2, I decided to buy the lady because in the end, it gave me the best value for my money and needs like an amateur photographer.
If you compare the SL2 to the T6 and T7 models, tthe latter have an older image processor, the Panasonic is older and the Sony models have not a articulated LCD.
Msybe the camera's price is different in Chile, e.g. SL2 cost around US$ 1.000 and both T6 and T7 cost around US$ 400 and US$500. However, the features are the same.
I am in the market for a camera and was considering the SL2 vs M50. Any thoughts? Thanks
Purchased SL2 for entry level photography, hopefully it arrives tomorrow!
Great review as always. The interface on the Canon looks excellent and would be superb for a beginner.
I would go with the Canon, definitely. For it's ease of use mainly, as I am very new to the world of photography. I would work my way through the different modes with the help of the camera itself! Brilliant!
What is a great prime lens for recording TH-cam videos on the SL2 in a 12x12 room?
Between canon SL2 and the Canon 70D, which camera would be ideal for filming Quality TH-cam videos for business products?
In your professional opinion!
Battery life and price point are heavily missing topics in the video
Wasabi batteries.
Great video! As primarily a storyteller I d probably choose the SL2. 4K is great but so many films have been make before 4k was available As a film maker I should be able to tell a story with my Galaxy S9 cellphone. But that’s just me, If I had maybe 5grand to spend on a system I’d probably choose the A6500 or even the GH5 but the 1.4 or 1.2 manual lenes are gonna be a bigger financial investment. But the SL2 image quality seems to Be capable of telling the “STORY” which is my main focus........Story First. Thanks for this video AWESOME
The SL2 also has exposure compensation in Manual mode.
Everyone has their own opinion... but as someone who moved from Canon TO Sony, I have NOT experienced the "disadvantages" mentioned in this video.
Canon is OK... but Sony offers much more "Bang for the Buck" and I am a believer now.
Loved the video! I use the SL2, do you have a tutorial video on how to use the external audio on the camera? I have had this camera for days now and I can not get any sound when I use my external microphone, and this was the main reason I bought this camera.
People people! Get a good lens. I had a t5 for a long time. Upgraded to t6i and sL2. Get a good editing laptop. 2012 MacBook and up. With maximum ram!!! Get good lenses. It’s all in the lens. I prefer sL2 because of new digic7 professor and the fact that it was dual pixel AF system. Couldn’t be happier. T7i,t6i, or sL2 are all great!! Not trying to get tangled up with nikon or Sony
Lenses are really important!
I just bought 200d , since 2016 Im using mirrorless and thanks god that's good experience use dslr instead od mirrorless... I Know mirrorless have evf but for me better feeling is use optical view Finder 😉 In live view is no difference here anyway...
Awesome review, thanks. Two solid mid range cameras explained well.
This is the Camera I recommend to all my friends and family who are looking to get into photography. The size, features for the price point, and great selection of budget apsc Canon glass makes it a winner in my book
But which one is better for videos??
I understand not wanting to use the SLR parts of the SL2. It is sort of a good, if rather bulky, mirrorless camera without an EVF. As soon as you want a viewfinder though it becomes a rather poor SLR. Anyone who uses a viewfinder should go for the Sony A6x00.
Best review I’ve seen if the SL2.
Which one to choose between canon 200d or nikon 5300..? I'm a beginner,this is my first dslr,from india,compared a lot and within my budget I choose d5300 now a small confusion between these two models,some one help,Thanks in advance
If in doubt, check this out! You will clearly know which one you want after watching this "Nikon d5300 ditched for Canon SL2 !! Best Decision Ever!" The reviewer is SMART and talking from first hand experience with both cameras. th-cam.com/video/ko5t94eu9fI/w-d-xo.html
is it worth to buy in 2019?
Asking the same
bought the m50 instead. btw
@@KohaiXhin got my SL2 4 weeks ago. No regrets at all.
If u got efs lens, go for sl2 if not then m50
I have sl2 for videos, now i bought a sl3 for 4k. With good lenses you get awesome quality. I use sigma ART 18-35 and sigma ART 50-100mm, those lenses are the best lenses for Apsc sensor
I'd have the SL2 because it fits in with my existing lenses, and it makes an ideal travel camera with some of the lightweight primes and stm zooms.
I'm really appreciate your review about these camera. But I'd love to see more specific comparison about burst shoot in moving object conditions (not in sports, just walk or jogging or spinning around). I'm confused of buying canon 200D and 800D because of focus points. I don't know if 200D can shoot moving object as accurate as 800D or not? And between canon 800D and sony a6000? Thank you so much! You don't need to make a video, if you can answer me (not base on specs), I would appriciate!
please suggest me a camera for make a youtube videos purpose please i very confuse about it Sony A6000 or Canon SL200 and i my main purpose is to make videos so please suggest me sir i am very confuse
Trying to decide on SL2 or G7 tough call or G85
Great video, hoping to get the Canon SL2 soon. Thank you!
*nice piano song*
"So I've been shooting my son on a zipline"
*nice piano song*
I bought the SL2. Hopefully I get it tomorrow.
I had the Canon sl1 and switched to the Sony a6000. I can get past the slightly clumsy Sony interface because I've gotten used to it but the biggest issues in my opinion are the non-touch screen focus and the lens range. Sony lenses are limited and overpriced. Way overpriced compared to the selection of second hand Canon lenses you can choose from. The deciding factor was that the Sony is a bit better in low light and the small size of the Sony can keep subjects more comfortable.
Which is better
Wow really wanted to trade in my SL1 for an SL2 for just the articulating screen but after seeing this video I want to now for so many other reasons. I always found the SL1 was an underrated camera.
The SL1 taught me so much. About to sell it and get an SL2. I love Canon, and EOS.
thanks! i have been thinking a lot about what camera to get, as a beginner in the photography area, it helps me to a lot, now i think i will go to Canon. thanks!
I asked Google about reviews of Sony support. 1 is by far the most common I found, both for cameras and TV. Sometimes for gear valued at some tens of thousands of $US.
Don't believe me, do your own check. Note, I'm talking about support, not cameras and TVs. The products are well regarded.
So support review is a thing now? are the review reliable and validated? is that before or after Sony launch camera dedicated support? The problem with many electronic customer companies is they outsource service to local 3rd party company, not only Sony but Canon, Panasonic, Ricoh, etc as well. I share my own frustation about my canon printer which took 4 month to service, cmooon.
ill be happy if you can upload the picturs of moving subject i want to see the difrent if you can
and thank you for the video i relly love it.
and ill be happy to know which you think best for begginer for travel and famly photos
and again thank you
Excellent video. No one wants to move from their smartphone to a dslr to NOT get magic coming from a $600-$1200 purchase. Canon video and photos just look the most pleasant and magical to my eyes, which if photography/videography is to be viewed as an art then this is what matters most. I watch videos all day of people talking about tech sheets, mainly “I jumped ship to Sony from canon because of specs” well, that’s doing beginners an injustice because beginners will literally only care about artistic magic....and Canon’s got it. ....(and before someone jumps down my throat about the use of a subjective word like “magic”, just remember photography is an artform, if you don’t know or feel magic when you see it then maybe art just isn’t your thing)
and for fair comparison, people usually pick Sony when they are more experienced and know how to overcome things like colour in post processing. Sony's colour is never good out of the box but when you are fidling with it even in the camera setting you will surprise of how Sony's cameras potential is, the setting are not just the plain contrast, colour, DR optimizer, picture style etc, but also more advanced stuff like gamma, colour spaces, knee, colour phase, etc Also a lot of people i know pick Sony because of the powerful raw and isoinvariant sensor.
Oh wow, you are from Seattle? I am running our local TH-camr meetup here. Feel free to come by. Thanks for your detailed look at the SL2. I ordered one a few days ago and am even more stoked now for it to arrive!
Cool. Shoot me an email at toby@photorec.tv
Awesome Toby! Email sent. 😃✌️
I am interested with the Canon, thank you for the video.
Will be the Canon Sl2 for me, cuz i use my old T3i with 3 cheap lenses in Canon EF 50MM F1.8 STM , Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM and my favorite Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM. Just waiting for it to come on sale and i will SNAP purchase it!!! Will be sad to say bye to my lovely old T3i tho =P
Nicely done. Isn't the SL1 actually smaller ????
Which camera is better for portrait photography
Sony A6K
On what camera was this video recorded on?
JMO, but the autofocus system on the A6000 series kicks Canon's butt all day long (especially in the video department) and I can use virtually any vintage glass on the A6000 series, which opens tons of possibilities for creative photography or film making.
Tim Ryan especially NOT in the video department. In the photo you may wanna say. Canon DPAF not only is better for tracking, but is waaaay more controllable via touch screen and it looks much smoother and cinematic. Non native lenses have no autofocus in video. Yes, when he compared the pictures of the kid on the swing, Canon colors looked way better, richer, contrastier, tastier
Sony has overheating problem?
Amazing review thanks so much!
what camera do you use to record?
i have been using an xt2 for the past year and just changed to an sl2 not really doing 4k videos and i find it amusing that the sl2 photo quality is better in my opinion than the fuji. also considering that lenses are cheaper on the canon line. sony seems to be outdated in 2019 ...
I'm will probaly choose the sl2 because of canons colors, sony colors (exeption= a7iii) have that strange gray tint.
Your reviews are one of the best. 👌👍
Excellent. To the point. Amazing review.
great SL2 review Toby !
Oh wow i was looking both of these cameras and then this pops up. Good timing as my Canon SX60 just sucks real bad and I need a new camera.
I wonder why you didn't talk about prices. Do you have some interest in pushing Sony products? I mean, you are comparing a Sony Camera that costs 900 dls. against a Canon product that is 300 dls. cheaper! That should make up for the small differences that you see in the end results of both products. That is called value, and it is very important for most of us consumers! All in all, keep up the good work with your videos!!
We all have a mirrorless camera in our pockets. Yes our cellphones.
Which is the best camera under 1200 dollars
Nani Naidu Bb6
Thank you for the review!
Sony a6000 vs canon sl2 which one the better
Sony a6000 - so nice and lightweight
I love my Nikon but I hate that is always chasing the focus and that it doesn't have a flip screen... ... I think I should give canon a chance seems like a better option
Watch this and you will be pretty amazed. "Nikon d5300 ditched for Canon SL2 !! Best Decision Ever!" th-cam.com/video/ko5t94eu9fI/w-d-xo.html
Great video as always!
hi bro , can u make fujifilm xa5 review ?
Your fill light is just a little too harsh, my friend.