You can use just 1 pas, 1 display and 1 throttle for two controllers and two motors. With one battery inline, you just need to connect on throttle both sensor wires on a 3way switch before throttle connection ,and connect both negs together to make 1, use 1 power wire for direct 5v to throttle. With Display : connect 1 power wire from controller to display, and both negs to display, match both uart in and out wires to each controller(IE: example both blue from both controllers twisted together to the one blue on display ) . And then do thru display reprogramming the setting to the way you like, be sure to have the display reset to factory settings before setting up. I have a few videos of one I built this way with a 1000w rear direct drive hub and a 1500w front direct drive hub, using 2 40A 48-72v controllers and 1 throttle w/regen ,and 1 sw900 display . No pas was available with the controllers i used.
We need a mid-drive single throttle add-on plug and play kit for the 60v dual battery 2025 Wired Freedom. 😎🤘 And then a plug and play front hub for triple crown freedom!
I have a few questions about my 2024 freedom Your thoughts on the rear gear set its different from the 2023 also the Kenda Tires they Have a Max presure 30 psi last year's tires are 20 psi and seem like they are softer compound. also my wired had 4.9 miles on speedo out of the box everthing was freshly packaged do you see this with your new purchased bikes Lee
Oh man ," U R The Man" I have been contenplating doing this because my top speed after 9 months has leveled off to around 33 - 36 mph . Hopefully you'll get at least 5 or 6 mph faster and if so I'll be doing the same . I was considering doing a shunt mod but was not wanting to mess with the controller in case it overheated . Always look forward to your experments Dr. Cycle
I'm targeting acceleration and hillclimb power, not top end speed. But having dual motors will take stress off the rear motor possibly allowing you to go a few miles an hour faster.
Early comment lol. My Organe titan WIRED FREEDOM 2024 arrives tomorrow. Man i havent even gotten my hands on mine and your already making me want to go faster. Might be an overtime project. Would be cool to keep improving on it ourselves.
@CitizenCycle925 IT IS CONFIRMED THE BIKE JUST ARRIVED. Honestly minimal damage to the box. Ordered it January 8th, delivered today? February 5th so about a month for those who are wondering about how much time it takes. I'll give further updates as I go
My orange Wired Freedom just arrived as well! Also minimal box shipping damage, so I'm glad I elected to not pay the shipping insurance. As the UPS guy wheeled the box to my garage, he mentioned that I would enjoy my new TV! I had to explain to him that it was an ebike, and the TV picture on the box was to encourage fragile handling of the box. He then mentioned that the box seemed very heavy (120 lbs) for a TV 😄 I guess the picture on the box does seem to work.
You just gave away Wired Freedom's secret weapon to keep their bike selling for the next year. Wired Freedom is already building a dual motor Freedom to keep up with the competition. Let's wait and see......
Thanks for the vid , I have been looking into these bikes , would love to get a little more speed without spending a fortune or making it unreliable. I like that they don’t draw to much attention as a moped style e bike would .
Oh man that's incredible!🤯 Patiently waiting for the parts list! I have a '24 Wired Cruiser and a lot of time on my hands which is definitely a dangerous combination for me😅! I also have a '24 Freedom but was run off the road 2 weeks ago by a distracted driver, so I now have up to 12 months of recovery to dream up ideas for my Cruiser! My Freedom unfortunately sustained some damage in the accident which is why I now have the Cruiser. Keeping a positive attitude though! I'm determined to get out there and ride again by summer! 💪 This is just a bump in the road! Pun intended! Love your videos brother!
@Citizen , I don't know whether you were aware of this. You filmed this video with such picturesque blue skies. Just capturing these blue skies with the clouds alone made this video enjoyable.
I just got mine yesterday. I can't get off of it. PSA: It's a HUGE bike, videos and pics simply cannot capture its actual size. No complaints personally, I'm 6'5 and even installed a 2 inch stem riser, I feel like a kid on it! If you're on the fence, just pull the trigger and get this thing.
@@rayrussell6258how long did it take you to type out that response to my question? Cause I bet you could’ve cut your response time in half, if you decided to grow up and be an adult before you sent that message. Congrats for being a dick bro! I bet your momma sure is proud! 👏🏻
Could this be E-Cells answer to the Wired Freedom? The E-Cells Five Star. Nylon/steel hybrid gears, 60V 40 amp controller, 1200W motor, 20Ah battery, DNM air shock (rear), Kenda Krusade fat tire, 56 tooth chain ring, high rise BMX style handlebars, cruise control, etc, etc, etc. Free shipping, free front basket. Didn't reckon it would take too long for the competition to notice, let the price wars begin!
Hi CC... Can I suggest or you put it into a vote with all your viewer about upgrading an ebike with the super bike front and the side panels half way across the bike. I would like to see that. I want to learn fiber glass & do it myself & 3000w each wheel 72v controller system but funding problems stopping me. I hope you do as I & many will love to see if it can be done
Hi Citizen Cycle Dude, I want to buy one but another video of the rear shock configuration shows it to be very underbuilt. What are your thoughts on this? I'm kinda thinking this reviewer knows what their talking about in case you haven't seen it. Wired Freedom defects. I definitely don't want a sloppy ebike. Thanks so much if you have the time to respond. Mark in Madison, WI.
I live in Canada. Anyone know if customs will give me trouble crossing into Canada with one purchased in the states since they currently are not available in Canada?
Dude PAS 5 and run on the peddles it's an easy 40+ mph bike. Throttle only doesn't give full power. You'll notice when you're in PAS 5 and peddling doing 40 if you apply the throttle it actually slows you down.
48 degrees here this week, last week it was barely 32 degrees; just not warm enough yet. But while the weather warms up, I'm going on the hunt for a Wired Freedom!
Is there a reason why you couldn't splice into the original throttle and display wires and eliminate the need for two of everything? Possibly even use the front/rear/dual switch from something like the grizzly?
Yes you can certainly connect everything together however The drawback is you are messing up all your bikes original wiring. Plus having both Motors connected to one throttle I find way more dangerous, the front motor can kick in when you're not expecting it. I've ridden many all-wheel drive bikes And that is certainly their downfall, unexpected front wheel engagement.
I subscribed only because you said when you're done you're gonna make a parts list and a little tutorial about how to do it. Excited to see the finished product.
Can you set up the front controller to gradually feed in the power? Maybe starting at 400 watts off the line, getting to max at 10 mph, or whatever your testing shows to be more usable?
Is it my imagination or is your filming becoming much better? Your videos are very enjoyable to watch, see the public wants to see more than just the bikes, we want to see the scenery and the sky and all that, and this video provides it keep up the good work I’ve been riding with you since the beginning.
The range is atrocious tho. This bike is a UNIT! I recieved mine 2 weeks ago and I would only do a shunts mod. I'm not tryna add more significant weight to this bike. It's pretty much faster than most other ebikes on the market. Don't tell your local bike shop this bike goes over 28mph otherwise they will not touch it.
I bought a dual motor e-bike that is just fine, and it only has one display. It can be switched from front wheel drive only, or rear wheel drive only, or dual motor drive. There's no need to go through all that modification on a Wired Freedom and have two displays that look just playing silly.
Can't wait to see it all finished so I can compare your 0 to 30 to mine I have the fastest wired freedom on TH-cam right now you should check out my build. Love your videos it what inspired me to build my freedom
Please please please Brian ...... do a comparison with Aventon Aventure 2, when you get this Wired Freedom ready. With performance, before and after shown. You convinced me to get the Aventon, glad I did. But you might have me looking to expand the "fleet" now.
The Citizen build is crazy, mf put a 100 amp controller on his, can't even put power down on it without wheelies lol I can tell you're also a fan of TailHappy tv, similar feel in your delivery, just started being interested in the electric scene myself a few months back, I'm looking to learn to build and modify on my own down the road, was going to buy the Billie Goat V2 to modify till the bastards leaped up the price while i was saving for it, just getting a Tif Galop K8 scooter to get around for now and preordering the Aima Hyhawk when it releases in 6 months, my wind up modifying that one down the road 🥹
It’s time to connect everything together with one throttle and one pedal assist and one display with a switch to be able to run one motor or both motors !!
Drooling on table watching this and then crying when he said two weeks until info on parts list ;P
I'm hurrying! Chinese new year slowed things down, factories shut down.
I'm still amazed Brian's channel hasn't grown more. He has by far the best e-bike content as far as I'm concerned.
by far!!!!
Yep as a motorcycle rider I am just getting one of these to explore places I wouldn’t take a motorcycle
Exactly
You can use just 1 pas, 1 display and 1 throttle for two controllers and two motors.
With one battery inline, you just need to connect on throttle both sensor wires on a 3way switch before throttle connection ,and connect both negs together to make 1, use 1 power wire for direct 5v to throttle.
With Display : connect 1 power wire from controller to display, and both negs to display, match both uart in and out wires to each controller(IE: example both blue from both controllers twisted together to the one blue on display ) . And then do thru display reprogramming the setting to the way you like, be sure to have the display reset to factory settings before setting up.
I have a few videos of one I built this way with a 1000w rear direct drive hub and a 1500w front direct drive hub, using 2 40A 48-72v controllers and 1 throttle w/regen ,and 1 sw900 display . No pas was available with the controllers i used.
We need a mid-drive single throttle add-on plug and play kit for the 60v dual battery 2025 Wired Freedom. 😎🤘 And then a plug and play front hub for triple crown freedom!
I would buy as soon as it's available.
I have a few questions about my 2024 freedom Your thoughts on the rear gear set its different from the 2023 also the Kenda Tires they Have a Max presure 30 psi last year's tires are 20 psi and seem like they are softer compound. also my wired had 4.9 miles on speedo out of the box everthing was freshly packaged do you see this with your new purchased bikes
Lee
Oh man ," U R The Man" I have been contenplating doing this because my top speed after 9 months has leveled off to around 33 - 36 mph . Hopefully you'll get at least 5 or 6 mph faster and if so I'll be doing the same . I was considering doing a shunt mod but was not wanting to mess with the controller in case it overheated . Always look forward to your experments Dr. Cycle
I'm targeting acceleration and hillclimb power, not top end speed. But having dual motors will take stress off the rear motor possibly allowing you to go a few miles an hour faster.
@CitizenCycle925 Those are my preferences too. Tons of torque 😅
Early comment lol. My Organe titan WIRED FREEDOM 2024 arrives tomorrow. Man i havent even gotten my hands on mine and your already making me want to go faster. Might be an overtime project. Would be cool to keep improving on it ourselves.
It has good power out of the box, you're going to have fun!
My orange Wired Freedom arrives tomorrow as well. Hoping for no shipping damage.
@CitizenCycle925 IT IS CONFIRMED THE BIKE JUST ARRIVED. Honestly minimal damage to the box. Ordered it January 8th, delivered today? February 5th so about a month for those who are wondering about how much time it takes. I'll give further updates as I go
My orange Wired Freedom just arrived as well! Also minimal box shipping damage, so I'm glad I elected to not pay the shipping insurance. As the UPS guy wheeled the box to my garage, he mentioned that I would enjoy my new TV! I had to explain to him that it was an ebike, and the TV picture on the box was to encourage fragile handling of the box. He then mentioned that the box seemed very heavy (120 lbs) for a TV 😄 I guess the picture on the box does seem to work.
@@SamArentz enjoy!!
You just gave away Wired Freedom's secret weapon to keep their bike selling for the next year. Wired Freedom is already building a dual motor Freedom to keep up with the competition. Let's wait and see......
Are you sure that Wired is planning to make a duel motor version?
I'm differently interested let me know
So what, just the old dual+mid drive motor/controller setup? Seen that. What's the new difference?
Thanks for the vid , I have been looking into these bikes , would love to get a little more speed without spending a fortune or making it unreliable. I like that they don’t draw to much attention as a moped style e bike would .
Do you think it’s worth getting rid of the Candace for a torque sensor?
If you want more of a pedaling workout then you could switch to torque sensor but otherwise i would leave the cadance.
Citizen, in your mind is there this concept called, "street legal'?
You GOTTA LOVE IT!
I want to add a front hub motor to my current e-bike
If you have a fat tire bike , then the parts i'm using should work for yours too.
GIMME
Legend.
Oh man that's incredible!🤯
Patiently waiting for the parts list!
I have a '24 Wired Cruiser and a lot of time on my hands which is definitely a dangerous combination for me😅!
I also have a '24 Freedom but was run off the road 2 weeks ago by a distracted driver, so I now have up to 12 months of recovery to dream up ideas for my Cruiser!
My Freedom unfortunately sustained some damage in the accident which is why I now have the Cruiser. Keeping a positive attitude though! I'm determined to get out there and ride again by summer! 💪 This is just a bump in the road! Pun intended!
Love your videos brother!
Wishing you a speedy recovery! Stay positive.
Stay strong brother!
@Citizen , I don't know whether you were aware of this. You filmed this video with such picturesque blue skies. Just capturing these blue skies with the clouds alone made this video enjoyable.
Yes, I did notice. The skies were absolutely beautiful that day. 😄
Looks great! Looking forward to seeing your finished product.
I just got mine yesterday. I can't get off of it. PSA: It's a HUGE bike, videos and pics simply cannot capture its actual size. No complaints personally, I'm 6'5 and even installed a 2 inch stem riser, I feel like a kid on it! If you're on the fence, just pull the trigger and get this thing.
Glad you love it and yes it is large and in charge, pics online don't do it justice.
Man what a sweet build! Love how gou keep it clean too! Keep getting it brother!
Looking forward to the parts list. Plus I'm jealous you have the weather to even ride that beast lol.
Working on it! and yes, NC weather is pretty good all year :)
I live in SC and I want a wired freedom so bad i can taste it. lmao.
@@CitizenCycle925what part of NC if you don’t mind me asking?
@@lennygarrison6836 view the video again, he rode past the city limit sign 😉
@@rayrussell6258how long did it take you to type out that response to my question? Cause I bet you could’ve cut your response time in half, if you decided to grow up and be an adult before you sent that message. Congrats for being a dick bro! I bet your momma sure is proud! 👏🏻
I have a freesky 35 mph.
Could this be E-Cells answer to the Wired Freedom? The E-Cells Five Star. Nylon/steel hybrid gears, 60V 40 amp controller, 1200W motor, 20Ah battery, DNM air shock (rear), Kenda Krusade fat tire, 56 tooth chain ring, high rise BMX style handlebars, cruise control, etc, etc, etc. Free shipping, free front basket. Didn't reckon it would take too long for the competition to notice, let the price wars begin!
Hi CC...
Can I suggest or you put it into a vote with all your viewer about upgrading an ebike with the super bike front and the side panels half way across the bike.
I would like to see that.
I want to learn fiber glass & do it myself & 3000w each wheel 72v controller system but funding problems stopping me.
I hope you do as I & many will love to see if it can be done
Hi Citizen Cycle Dude, I want to buy one but another video of the rear shock configuration shows it to be very underbuilt. What are your thoughts on this? I'm kinda thinking this reviewer knows what their talking about in case you haven't seen it. Wired Freedom defects. I definitely don't want a sloppy ebike. Thanks so much if you have the time to respond. Mark in Madison, WI.
Ha ha. Looks like a candidate for a brand new customized Citizen Cycle. Enjoy.
Have you seen Jason silver's videos? AKA racing Jason! He has a modified freedom!You should check out his TH-cam channel!
You pretty much have an AR Grizzly now
Awesome build. Loved the video.
I live in Canada. Anyone know if customs will give me trouble crossing into Canada with one purchased in the states since they currently are not available in Canada?
Does anyone know where I can get the exact same Controller
40ah 60v KT that the freedom has maybe the link as well thanks
Finally. Getting mine tomorrow. Good lord what a wait. I need the front motor sir... are we ready yet?
Dude PAS 5 and run on the peddles it's an easy 40+ mph bike. Throttle only doesn't give full power. You'll notice when you're in PAS 5 and peddling doing 40 if you apply the throttle it actually slows you down.
I heard if you use the brake it slows down too
Going up hill on my ecell super monarch awd. I have to literally stand up and pedal, and it's a beast to pedal.
You have to pedal up hill? That thing should climb hills throttle only with ease...
Can you ride these in the rain? Maybe if I wrap some plastic around the battery?
Man am I ever looking forward to Spring and hopping back on the E Bike!
Just around the corner!
You said it ! I'm dying to get back on mine!
48 degrees here this week, last week it was barely 32 degrees; just not warm enough yet.
But while the weather warms up, I'm going on the hunt for a Wired Freedom!
I was riding my freedom today and was actually considering doing exactly this.
ebikes will soon be banned because of stuff like this . Think before you act . i love my bike and your going to ruin it for everyone
Oh man looks like I’m spending money very soon here
Haha sorry to make you open your wallet😂
Awesome lol, 2:56 evil laugh on point
Can you put a mid drive motor on wired freedom?
Seen one the dude couldn't keep the thing from wheelies.
“but if you’re like me…”. Awesome.
What bike would do you recommend?
Cool build, is this all off the original battery?
I'd do this if they added anything to the top speed.
Is there a reason why you couldn't splice into the original throttle and display wires and eliminate the need for two of everything? Possibly even use the front/rear/dual switch from something like the grizzly?
Yes you can certainly connect everything together however The drawback is you are messing up all your bikes original wiring. Plus having both Motors connected to one throttle I find way more dangerous, the front motor can kick in when you're not expecting it. I've ridden many all-wheel drive bikes And that is certainly their downfall, unexpected front wheel engagement.
Hello,
Enjoy your channel. Can you tell me the rim width on the freedom, I want to research a more narrow tire possibly.
Thank you.
83.2 mm
If memory serves me right, the new Freedom is about a second faster up the hill than your Varla Eagle One Scooter!
Your memory is better than mine then!
Darn was cut off here again, yes i want this!
No parts list yet ?? cmon : )
Wheelie bars on the front forks!?
Not Bad. I have single motor slightly modded RadRover doing 3.9s 0-30mph and 41 mph currently...Upgrading soon even further 😉
I subscribed only because you said when you're done you're gonna make a parts list and a little tutorial about how to do it. Excited to see the finished product.
Thanks for the sub!! Glad to have you. Yes will do an install video and provide parts list.
Can you set up the front controller to gradually feed in the power? Maybe starting at 400 watts off the line, getting to max at 10 mph, or whatever your testing shows to be more usable?
He's a speed freak.....he will not do that😅
Nor would I
...teased!
I want one
I want to make mine AWD and I haven't even got it,yet.
@luigiprovencher haha love the excitement! maybe get used to the power first then make it all-wheel drive
@@CitizenCycle925 Yeah there's a lot of hills and the winters can get bad here.
😂
Is it my imagination or is your filming becoming much better? Your videos are very enjoyable to watch, see the public wants to see more than just the bikes, we want to see the scenery and the sky and all that, and this video provides it keep up the good work I’ve been riding with you since the beginning.
Thank you very much for that comment. I try my best to put out more than just bike reviews, and add some fun!
MERICAAAA❤
🏆
The range is atrocious tho. This bike is a UNIT! I recieved mine 2 weeks ago and I would only do a shunts mod. I'm not tryna add more significant weight to this bike. It's pretty much faster than most other ebikes on the market. Don't tell your local bike shop this bike goes over 28mph otherwise they will not touch it.
Well a non geared front hub 3,000 nominal watt 60V and 40 amp controller should do higher speed perhaps.
This mod just makes it accelerate faster correct, it doesn’t make the top speed higher does it?
More acceleration and hill climb power, not top end speed.
@@CitizenCycle925 cool.. have you seen the ecell five star? It’s essentially the same bike but I can’t find any reviews for it
I bought a dual motor e-bike that is just fine, and it only has one display. It can be switched from front wheel drive only, or rear wheel drive only, or dual motor drive. There's no need to go through all that modification on a Wired Freedom and have two displays that look just playing silly.
Can't wait to see it all finished so I can compare your 0 to 30 to mine I have the fastest wired freedom on TH-cam right now you should check out my build. Love your videos it what inspired me to build my freedom
I would wait a couple seconds before hitting the front motor to prevent the wheel spin. You would probably take off faster that way.
Wow I was thinking of getting Wired Freedom but now WOW this is 2 wheel drive so cool.
How did you get the second Wired Freedom display? Or was that a special deal for you?
My doctor told me to give up riding my bike due to my herniated discs and weak pelvic. 😢 I gotta trade it in for an electric scooter.
Maybe get a suspension seatpost and cushier seat
The duel motor rad power bike that I have cruses 41mph on the front wheel only on pedal assist 4.
The acceleration looks good with the single motor..I hate how this bike looks tho. Looks like a large bmx bike
Fantastic! Can't wait for the parts list ... and the instruction video! Super fun and thank you!!
First Nitromethane Ebike😅
Would you say the stock wired frwedom is better than the fab road warrior? If you had to choose, which one would yiu pick?
Wired is just as powerful, easier to drive and is cheaper
Please please please Brian ...... do a comparison with Aventon Aventure 2, when you get this Wired Freedom ready. With performance, before and after shown.
You convinced me to get the Aventon, glad I did. But you might have me looking to expand the "fleet" now.
Actually i was thinking of also making my Aventure 2 a dual motor bike using the same parts....
Nice vid! Did you have the dual motor set up independent like the citizen bike? Can't wait for the complete set up and links!
Yes completely seperate system for front motor
The Citizen build is crazy, mf put a 100 amp controller on his, can't even put power down on it without wheelies lol I can tell you're also a fan of TailHappy tv, similar feel in your delivery, just started being interested in the electric scene myself a few months back, I'm looking to learn to build and modify on my own down the road, was going to buy the Billie Goat V2 to modify till the bastards leaped up the price while i was saving for it, just getting a Tif Galop K8 scooter to get around for now and preordering the Aima Hyhawk when it releases in 6 months, my wind up modifying that one down the road 🥹
many options out there and more everyday, good luck with your decision and your build :)
Soooo in summary, dual motor Wired Freedom; faster acceleration, same top end speed, same battery capacity...RIP battery.
2nd battery is in my rear pack hiding 🙂
With great power comes great responsibility. 😉❤
Yes it does!
woah bro!!! Sick Pickles!!! wow!!
Ray why don’t you buy this one for me? 😂
like watching Top Gun Maverick trying to get to mach 10 😎. well, not quite but it looks like you were having a lot of fun
yes, better acceleration always makes me smile!
Great bike ride Dr. Frankenstein.
Whenever you’re ready can you show us step by step tutorial on how we can upgrade our freedom… parts and components and everything else… thanx
Soon... got more parts today!!
Will the kit work on all bikes? Or do you need certain forks on the front to make it work?
Need the rst guide forks
@@CitizenCycle925 thanks.
@@CitizenCycle925 you wouldn’t happen to have a list of bikes already equipped with rst guide fork?
@@CitizenCycle925 hey would you be able to test out the conversion kit on a beecool bike?
@@singlestringstruggler1988 Unfortunately, I don't have a bee cool bike to try on.
Meh 😑
Nice
It’s time to connect everything together with one throttle and one pedal assist and one display with a switch to be able to run one motor or both motors !!
Nah much better this way. Safer
@@CitizenCycle925 I disagree!!
YOU'VE GONE MAD WITH POWA!!!!
an increase in acceleration makes ebikes much more fun.
Very Nice! Good Job!
Thanks!
Thank you for doing this and I will wait patiently for the parts list. I have a 2023 Freedom will the parts work on a 2023
Yes it will
@@CitizenCycle925 thank you
Get that illegal bike off the road.
Thanks for sharing
You bet!
I wonder if you could change any of the gearing to get higher top end?
They’re hub motors..the gearing is all internal. If you wanna deal with gearings you need a mid drive
@@slimdunkin117 I am not talking about the electric motor gearing, I was thinking more in the line of sprocket size!