Hey Rodger been an big an big.fan of you have all albulm praying.for you you look good by the way take care from calgary home of the flames calgary stampders
I've had the chance to spend some time with Roger, back in the day, and now, every time I hear "his side" of the story, I think of this song..."Tourniquet; Bearing Gruesome Cargo"...This is why I am the way that I am You know I'm carrying with me Over twenty years of pity My whole personality Was formed by others, not me When I look back on my life One that's always filled with strife I rode down a bad course Nobody's fault but yours My step always threw me right down the stairs So forgive me when I do the same thing to you I know it must seem like your daddy never cares But if you knew what I've been through You'd do the same thing too Well I can't make a move Without draggin' all my baggage My father always cursed So forgive me for my language Please excuse me for yelling Pardon me for telling you to stop Selling to me your God in Heaven This is why I am the way that I am This is why I am the way that I am If I can keep this up for the rest of my days I may never have to take responsibility For my ways..." Bingo. Every time I hear someone talk about, (or spend all their time on earth railing about how they "don't believe in God"), I usually end up hearing how it was some OTHER fallible, hypocritical, horrible PEOPLE, who acted against the teachings of Christ, and that's why they stereotype Jesus and "don't believe" in God anymore. Whatever. If I evaluate a God based on the actions of all the other, (not me, of course), sinful people, then I never really was a follower of His anyway. Worse than stereotyping through racism, when you think of it. Even Blackie Lawless came to finally understand this.
Well said! It would also be like me divorcing my wife because other men cheat on their wives. Or refusing to go to the gym because overweight people exist How silly is that!
I’m happy Gary Lenaire returned to God. He was pretty far away… he even wrote that book that explained why he walked away. If you follow him online, you can see he is very happy and blessed.
Nah, mostly it’s just actually reading the Bible and realizing it’s complete BS written by clueless ancient nomads who were scared of thunder and thought evil spirits spread disease and studying church history you realize it was all created as a method to control people. People “doing you wrong” happens everywhere in everything. His grievance about being F’d over by Xian’s was a small part of the video. I look like it as luck if that what got him out of his delusion because mine was a long slow process that took a couple decades! Sounds like he figured it out a decade or more before me, lodge bless him! 👍🏻😏🙌🏽
Thank you for interviewing Roger! I love him and Vengeance Rising. From personal experience with the Holy Spirit, I don’t understand how he turned from faith. I understand falling into sin and struggles but I just personally can’t understand not believing after experiencing God. Love you guys!
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. 1st John 2:19
@@chrislemonis-yp6xe Nope... xtianity.. but those who are still part of this cult will sadly almost never discover they belong to one... That's how horrid the brainwashing is
Thank you Jason. Did you pick up a free copy of "god is not Great, How religion ruins everything." It's free man. If you check it out, I'll have to buy a few drinks and we can zoom a look at your perspectives having listened to it. Simple, I order you a 6 pack or .750ml of your choice delivered to you and we can enjoy a call with Simon on the call too and party up!
Thank you Jason, great to hear from you. So what's up these days bro. You making enough money? We can always train a new real estate professional from the beginning if you need a career gig man. Let me know. There's plenty of room for a go-getter. Glad you wrote.
So Roger called me last night, he has been getting really cool calls from old friends and fans!! He had a caller that wanted him to be on another podcast but could not hear most of his info, so if that was anyone here please call him back!
@RogerMartinez-jm1kc Glad to see you here, must be a little aggravating that every time your name gets brought up there are Christians who come out of the woodwork to talk down about how having your own beliefs makes you “lost”. I’m excited to follow whatever you want to post for us. I still have my VR t-shirts from over 30 years ago and the autograph you mailed to me. Cheers!
Thanks for the note. Who is this by the way? I really want these sessions to be interactive over the next 10 years plus so let me know little bit more about yourself and what you doing what you plan to do in next 5 years. For instance who are your favorite comedians currently? Talk to You Later.
You know as a practicing Christian with some similar issues with organized religion as a whole I can relate to😊 Roger and u both. But I grew up with Vengeance Rising and as a practicing metalhead as well have to say some of their music is on my metal all time GOAT lists am truly happy to see that Roger was ok. I have also struggled with drug addiction and anxiety/depression I have a very different reality view than a lot of Christians. Anyways enough Roger fanboy stuff....man love the idea of the show immensely and have enjoyed this episode. Maybe I'll call Roger and ask about the music if that's ok..OK.... thanks again..SUBSCRIBED
7 months ago. Bro you should have called me man. Yeah, lets talk. Come down to the beach and lets have some cheers and brews at the kick ass spots the guys from KISS have here around where I live.
I corresponded from Detroit back in the day with Rodger a couple times (still owes me bout $250 in merch!😉) bought all his teaching tapes, tons of shirts and stuff, loved VR, even started my own Xian metal band, sign to a label in the mid 90s and played with a lot of the biggest Xian metal bands, Tourniquet, Living Sacrifice, Zao, Bride, P.O.D, Circle of Dust etc etc. Had some good times but was still miserable and knew something wasn’t right. Bought 1999 just before “Y2K” I caught the prepper bug, bought all the emergency food and water, nothing happened and I started questioning my faith, fast forward to about 06/07 and years of Carlin comedy and just everything around me I finally started realizing I had been completely full of shit. In 2006 I read a Bart Erhman book called “Misquoting Jesus” that really got me on the path to secularism and then I started reading Hitchens and Sam Harris books and it was over, by 2008 I was a full blown atheist and I’ve never been happier. Living life this way without that delusion is way more satisfying for me, if I don’t know something I just admit I don’t know I don’t say it’s god or the Devil or whatever some non provable BS. Nice to hear you speaking again Rodgers M! 👍🏻🤘🏼
wow quite the opposite for me. As a non believer my life was misberable and though being religious was key. Man was I mistaken had a good Christian friend in school that really cared about me amd my life. Eventually I was drawn to God by the Holy Spirit and have never been happier in life.
$250 in merch... yeah, no man... I'd remember that. What the @WW are you talking about. Nobody bought all my teaching tapes so I get it, you're full of shit.. or let's do this... give me 5 lessons from the hours of those tapes you found most profound. So are you catholic, protestant or just a secular mastrabator... with a wife or no? $250 you're full of you know, holy crap
As a fan of VR I totally respect him...I still question religion although I want to believe I still struggle man...but I still like roger regardless if he's religious or otherwise
All i heard in this dialogue, is Man Did This and Man Did That. Man will always let you down. You took your eyes off of Christ. I did the same thing for 10 years. Then i realized my error, and through the loving nudges of The Holy Spirit, i came back to Jesus. Guess what, He was right where i left him, waiting to welcome me back home.
Colleen, how great to hear from you. Why no phone call? As noted in the zoom, the "look" is horrible and I know it.. I've been in bed over 5 months now but should be back to walking by summer and naturally, I'll look better as I get up and out to the beach!
Yes give me till around summer to put something together. I like the idea of doing TH-cam takes song by song. That way I can make it an actual video like before the time. All of the new stuff will be sent to everybody by email link at no charge. I'll be doing it just for the fun of doing the music and because I have lots of things to say. Thanks for asking Bradley. What do you do by the way?
@@RogerMartinez-jm1kcbeen a fan since about 1993. I too, am an apostate. I would absolutely LOVE to hear what you had planned to release in 2000. Even just a lyric sheet would be amazing. So glad you've come to your senses. By the way, RIP Hitch. He was instrumental when I was in that period of introspection when I decided to leave Christianity. Absolute legend, like you!
2024 will do it mang. What are you listening to these days? Which label do you like best? Nuclear Blast, Metal Blade, who is doing the best of 2023 and for 2024 do you think? Thanks for writing bro.
Awesome news! I will definitely be looking forward to hearing what you guys put together! Other than the classics, Newer stuff that I have been listening to: “Parius”, “Cave In”, “Mastodon”, “Slaughter To Prevail” and “Lorna Shore”. I also liked that “Sleep Token” album quite a bit… even if it was a bit over hyped. The latest “Cattle Decapitation” album is really creative and brutal… like usual.
Question for Roger.....You never saw the church teaching that people should be loved? You said you were taught to condemn those that do not follow God. People are the ones that propagate hate and division. The true mission of the church is to care about everyone. Regardless of belief or affiliation.
They propagate that hate because their Bible LITERALLY TELLS THEM TO. True, they chose to hate, but how many wouldn't be that way if they weren't told to? Religious people are lazy sheep that don't think for themselves so they need everything spoon-fed to them. Christianity comes as a package deal, scriptures and hate included, which each denomination cherry-picks away at.
Someone recently asked me to do a podcast but their voice mail was to garbled to hear clearly. Sure bro, Simon and I would love to do that with you. Just replly or call back. my phone erased your call too. We'll get together man. Get bacl to me.
Time to bring Vengeance back and Blow doors! I woke this morning sipped some coffee listen to some birds tweet and then haunted the neighborhood with some Vengeance From the Dead!!!
@@RogerMartinez-jm1kc Chasing the Dream buddy!! Been a crazy life!! I really identify with your story! We're all connected thru the metal Family🤘 And Vengeance was raw meat baby!! I know your probably tired of talking about it after all these years but just want to send good energy your way and say thank you for your contribution to music! I got your # off another podcast you did I'm gonna ring you up one of these nights🤙 brutha
Vengeance Rising to me is like you bring members of the big four,meaning Anthrax, Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer to make one band and spread the word of god
Used to wear my green logo vengeance shirt like 3 days a week back around 1990-91. I got it at a VR show in MD around that time. I think I met Glen, Doug, Roger Dale, and Larry, but Martinez had a crowd.
At the time I was simply having way too much fun simply enjoying life and partying. Blasphemy is a very fun topic that's for sure. The guy who wrote either the forward or the intro to Mike Pompeo's new book was arrested for blasphemy. He had blasphemed against the supreme ruler of North Korea and was into prison for it. Religious people accuse other people of blasphemy and think it's fine to do so until they themselves are accused of it and arrested and put in the prison for it, or are murdered. I'll look forward to putting together some videos and get them out to everybody at no charge. I've just been very very busy having fun with life and having a great time over these past 30+ years. Is no solution a group or person or what? What are you doing by the way? Thanks for the looking forward. I am too. Cheers indeed.
Also Mike Pompeo is a Republican who may be running for the upcoming presidential race. He was the director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) 2017 to 2018 and was Secretary of State 2018 to 2021. I am currently reading his book "Never Give An Inch."
Blasphemy is a fascinating topic. It seems to have moved in to the secular world more lately...don't criticize the government or you are a far right extremist, etc. No Solution is just a name I chose for my channel as using my real name just seemed boring. It comes from a Marillion lyric that means a lot to me. I'm just a normal guy, job, family, etc., having some fun talking about tunes on TH-cam. Good talking to you Roger, looking forward to your next video!
I get it. You're simply trying to be a decent person. so how about getting the free audio book by Christopher Hitchens, and after listening to a couple chapters, you, I and Simon can have a few drinks together over zoom and hang a bit.
If you're not a bigot, you wouldn't impose your beliefs of torture by mentioning "Lord have mercy on you". You're not tolerant of his rejection of your belief system. It's the same idea as dead-naming a trans person. You aren't respecting their autonomy and choices, your imposing your will and views. That's ABSOLUTELY bigoted.
So this channel is Roger Martinez's "other" channel? How does a guest steer and take over the entire interview, watch here for the "how to" on this.His take on music with the confusing "Satanic Atheism theme" remains "in progress. Good luck with this Simon.
It is certainly not confusing to all the people who are the COS. And if you've seen Ron Reagan's commercial about joining the freedom from religion foundation, (and this is the son of the former-president Ronald Reagan,) he lets you know he's a lifelong atheist, not afraid of burning in hell. The use of the phraseology of Satanism is merely a cathartic tool to let religious people know they will not frighten us with their delusions of a tortured afterlife. Neither do you frighten the heads of the Chinese government with these threats or the governments of India or Saudi Arabia or anybody else for that matter. The threats are a joke and anti-theists here in America can enjoy the utilitarian use of phraseology for the simple fun of it. There is no devil there is no Satan nor is there a Christ. I highly recommend Richard Dawkins TH-cam series the God delusion for you John Renton. But you do by the way?
I am a disciple of Yeshua (Jesus). I believe in the whole of scripture the Torah and the "new" testament. Roger, I totally understand what you walked away from. These peddlers of the gospel are no different than some of the Pharisees that Yeshua confronted who put away the Law of God for traditions of men and took advantage of their fellow man. What you walked away from was not a relationship with the Creator, but religion. I cannot say that you had an actual relationship with God based on your "conversion" story, but you missed the God who created you and loves you and wants you as He wants everyone. There's Law and grace.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. 1st john2:19 Roger needs to Repent and believe the Gospel he was not converted .
From what I see you accurately portrayed the failings of men. Christian or not we all screw up. If I screw over my friend, I have betrayed him. If I am a christian, does that mean God doesn't exist? Or that God hates the world? No way. These are two separate issues. My parents taught me to help and care for my friends. They were by no means christian. If I don't follow what they taught me, does that mean they never existed? Of course not.
I strongly suggest you enjoy the TH-cam free video series by Richard Dawkins entitled the God delusion. G.O.D. stands for games of deception. This games of deception exist that is for sure. Richard Dawkins discusses it in his series the God delusion. Additionally the professional work by Christopher Hitchens titled "God Is Not Great How Religion Poisons Everything" might help you grow. What do you do? What you plan to do in the next 5 years in your life?
Whether there is some sort of spiritual entity or not that comes anywhere close to being the god of the universe the fact that the Israelite god of the three Abrahamic is not it. You’ll know them by their fruits. Thanks Roger for your insight.
I love the channel (i go back to the early days when Resurrection Band was about as heavy as it got😅). Having said that, please don't take it the wrong way- but its really not great when you keep interrupting the subjects and interject your thoughts repeatedly. We kinda know your angle but we want to hear from the subjects, not the interviewer. Just my opinion, I'm watching em all either way haha! I have Vengeance, Bride, and Deliverance etc demos, live shows, videos, tees etc. I was mind fucked by full gospel Christianity from an early page and finally thankfully fully turned away in my late teens. I cant believe how fucked in the head all that shit had me and shaped my life.
This individual is a perfect example of what i was talkng about. He's living a life of vile hatred based on a superstition. That is what the delusionary psybhosis of his religion causes more often than not. So James, do you have the evidence of the holy spirit by speaking in tounges or not? Probably not rigtht? So send me your zip code and I'll send you 20 churches in your area where you can go learn about "the trugn" of evidence" you fail to manifest. Are you saying those who speak in tongues are "rejecting the truth" or are you "rejecting" the pentecostal truth? What is your zip code?
He had really strong teaching tapes out back in the '80's,I saw them twice at Cornerstone fest and they were on fire for Christ,check there first 2 albums,loaded with scripture verses for each song,search and know the Bible so you can be like the Bereans and spot false teaching
Christians and Mulims do not have similar theology at all. Huge differences the same as the Catholic Church. BTW true Christians do not hate people, we hate the sin and sinful lifestyles. How do you define "good"? What do you base people's goodness on? Is your Morality subjective?
Roger, as a believer I would, and never will judge you whether it's verbally or in my thoughts. I understand the Church ruined it for you but not all of us are like that. i am very sorry these so called "Christians" acted like jerks to you back in the day but please don't judge all of us as judgemental wackos. I am not saying to go back to God, but also understand there are a small amount of us out here that would not say garbage that these other "Christian" idiots have said to you in the past then act like they're perfect.
Christopher Hitchens was a scholar and intellectual with awesome debating skills. Matt Dillahunty also does great exposes on Christianity and was a former preacher and pastor.
@@RogerMartinez-jm1kc You don’t know me. But I was a fan of Vengeance back in the day. Let’s see what the actual dictionary definition says… From (Merriam-Webster) charisma noun cha·ris·ma kə-ˈriz-mə Synonyms of charisma 1 : a personal magic of leadership arousing special popular loyalty or enthusiasm for a public figure (such as a political leader) His success was largely due to his charisma. 2 : a special magnetic charm or appeal the charisma of a popular actor My words… You had a great energy and command over the audience. It was almost like you were on caffeine though! LOL Maybe it was “wit” or something. Who knows… Does Phil Anselmo, Mike Muir, Corey Taylor or your old buddy Mark Salomon ring a bell? I would say they had a type of “charisma”. I think you know what I meant dude. When you spoke, people would listen. Now I think people are mostly interested in a weird gossip tabloid kind of way.
I was a absolutely “on fire” in the late 80s early 90s, tons of Xian “charisma”, thought I knew everything, like I held the keys to “eternal life”, unfortunately(fortunately) I was full shit! A lot of it is just youthful exuberance too, at least now I don’t try to act like I know things there’s no way any man can know! The height of hypocrisy. We may seem calmer and have “less charisma” but at least we live in reality and not the grip of a ridiculous delusion. 👌😮
HE STARTED LOOKING AT 99% OF THE INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT HE PROBABLY IGNORED WHEN HE WAS A BELIEVER. THINGS THAT MADE HIM QUESTION HIS FAITH WERE AVOIDED BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM HEAD-ON, THEY MAKE YOU LOOK AT REALITY. SCIENCE, BIOLOGY AND COMMON SENSE.
I’d love to see you interview Gary Lenaire. One who went through somewhat of a similar route but came back home.
Amen God brought back Gary.
Gary Lenaire came back to the faith? Where did you hear that? Thank God if it’s true.
@@anonymousperson1183he came back about a year or 2 ago, I am sure Guy Ritter helped him out with it.
I'd love to hear that one too. It puzzles my mind.
Hey Rodger been an big an big.fan of you have all albulm praying.for you you look good by the way take care from calgary home of the flames calgary stampders
I've had the chance to spend some time with Roger, back in the day, and now, every time I hear "his side" of the story, I think of this song..."Tourniquet; Bearing Gruesome Cargo"...This is why I am the way that I am
You know I'm carrying with me
Over twenty years of pity
My whole personality
Was formed by others, not me
When I look back on my life
One that's always filled with strife
I rode down a bad course
Nobody's fault but yours
My step always threw me right down the stairs
So forgive me when I do the same thing to you
I know it must seem like your daddy never cares
But if you knew what I've been through
You'd do the same thing too
Well I can't make a move
Without draggin' all my baggage
My father always cursed
So forgive me for my language
Please excuse me for yelling
Pardon me for telling you to stop
Selling to me your God in Heaven
This is why I am the way that I am
This is why I am the way that I am
If I can keep this up for the rest of my days
I may never have to take responsibility
For my ways..."
Bingo. Every time I hear someone talk about, (or spend all their time on earth railing about how they "don't believe in God"), I usually end up hearing how it was some OTHER fallible, hypocritical, horrible PEOPLE, who acted against the teachings of Christ, and that's why they stereotype Jesus and "don't believe" in God anymore. Whatever. If I evaluate a God based on the actions of all the other, (not me, of course), sinful people, then I never really was a follower of His anyway. Worse than stereotyping through racism, when you think of it. Even Blackie Lawless came to finally understand this.
Well said! It would also be like me divorcing my wife because other men cheat on their wives. Or refusing to go to the gym because overweight people exist How silly is that!
Wow, the lyrics are a bullseye.
I’m happy Gary Lenaire returned to God. He was pretty far away… he even wrote that book that explained why he walked away. If you follow him online, you can see he is very happy and blessed.
Song I've related to over the years⚡⚡🤘
Nah, mostly it’s just actually reading the Bible and realizing it’s complete BS written by clueless ancient nomads who were scared of thunder and thought evil spirits spread disease and studying church history you realize it was all created as a method to control people. People “doing you wrong” happens everywhere in everything. His grievance about being F’d over by Xian’s was a small part of the video. I look like it as luck if that what got him out of his delusion because mine was a long slow process that took a couple decades! Sounds like he figured it out a decade or more before me, lodge bless him! 👍🏻😏🙌🏽
So great to find this! I've graduated to humanity now as well, Roger!
Ramen! 🍜
Thank you for interviewing Roger! I love him and Vengeance Rising.
From personal experience with the Holy Spirit, I don’t understand how he turned from faith. I understand falling into sin and struggles but I just personally can’t understand not believing after experiencing God. Love you guys!
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
1st John 2:19
I had 3 cervical surgeries spanning 8 years so I understand the pain what Roger had gone through...its no joke
Praying for you Roger. Walk back to the Lord. Time is short bro.
Amen bro!
**Wanking hand gesture** 🫱🍆
God doesn't give a fuck about your prayers
Thanks to you and Roger for the interview.
Always good to know that others who have fled this very damaging cult that xtianity is, are doing well...
Please find a dictionary and look up the word cult. After reading, seek out an intelligent to explain to you what you just read, poser.
I think your mistaking Christianity for Islam.
@@chrislemonis-yp6xe Nope... xtianity.. but those who are still part of this cult will sadly almost never discover they belong to one... That's how horrid the brainwashing is
Yeah! I had my doubts man. It is awesome to here Rogers voice. U look great Roger. 🤘
Thank you Jason. Did you pick up a free copy of "god is not Great, How religion ruins everything." It's free man. If you check it out, I'll have to buy a few drinks and we can zoom a look at your perspectives having listened to it. Simple, I order you a 6 pack or .750ml of your choice delivered to you and we can enjoy a call with Simon on the call too and party up!
Thank you Jason, great to hear from you. So what's up these days bro. You making enough money? We can always train a new real estate professional from the beginning if you need a career gig man. Let me know. There's plenty of room for a go-getter. Glad you wrote.
So Roger called me last night, he has been getting really cool calls from old friends and fans!! He had a caller that wanted him to be on another podcast but could not hear most of his info, so if that was anyone here please call him back!
@RogerMartinez-jm1kc Glad to see you here, must be a little aggravating that every time your name gets brought up there are Christians who come out of the woodwork to talk down about how having your own beliefs makes you “lost”. I’m excited to follow whatever you want to post for us. I still have my VR t-shirts from over 30 years ago and the autograph you mailed to me. Cheers!
Thanks for the note. Who is this by the way? I really want these sessions to be interactive over the next 10 years plus so let me know little bit more about yourself and what you doing what you plan to do in next 5 years. For instance who are your favorite comedians currently? Talk to You Later.
You know as a practicing Christian with some similar issues with organized religion as a whole I can relate to😊 Roger and u both. But I grew up with Vengeance Rising and as a practicing metalhead as well have to say some of their music is on my metal all time GOAT lists am truly happy to see that Roger was ok. I have also struggled with drug addiction and anxiety/depression I have a very different reality view than a lot of Christians. Anyways enough Roger fanboy stuff....man love the idea of the show immensely and have enjoyed this episode. Maybe I'll call Roger and ask about the music if that's ok..OK.... thanks again..SUBSCRIBED
7 months ago. Bro you should have called me man. Yeah, lets talk. Come down to the beach and lets have some cheers and brews at the kick ass spots the guys from KISS have here around where I live.
I corresponded from Detroit back in the day with Rodger a couple times (still owes me bout $250 in merch!😉) bought all his teaching tapes, tons of shirts and stuff, loved VR, even started my own Xian metal band, sign to a label in the mid 90s and played with a lot of the biggest Xian metal bands, Tourniquet, Living Sacrifice, Zao, Bride, P.O.D, Circle of Dust etc etc. Had some good times but was still miserable and knew something wasn’t right. Bought 1999 just before “Y2K” I caught the prepper bug, bought all the emergency food and water, nothing happened and I started questioning my faith, fast forward to about 06/07 and years of Carlin comedy and just everything around me I finally started realizing I had been completely full of shit. In 2006 I read a Bart Erhman book called “Misquoting Jesus” that really got me on the path to secularism and then I started reading Hitchens and Sam Harris books and it was over, by 2008 I was a full blown atheist and I’ve never been happier. Living life this way without that delusion is way more satisfying for me, if I don’t know something I just admit I don’t know I don’t say it’s god or the Devil or whatever some non provable BS. Nice to hear you speaking again Rodgers M! 👍🏻🤘🏼
wow quite the opposite for me. As a non believer my life was misberable and though being religious was key. Man was I mistaken had a good Christian friend in school that really cared about me amd my life. Eventually I was drawn to God by the Holy Spirit and have never been happier in life.
Feels good to be out, doesn't it?
$250 in merch... yeah, no man... I'd remember that. What the @WW are you talking about. Nobody bought all my teaching tapes so I get it, you're full of shit.. or let's do this... give me 5 lessons from the hours of those tapes you found most profound. So are you catholic, protestant or just a secular mastrabator... with a wife or no? $250 you're full of you know, holy crap
Go get your money.
As a fan of VR I totally respect him...I still question religion although I want to believe I still struggle man...but I still like roger regardless if he's religious or otherwise
All i heard in this dialogue, is Man Did This and Man Did That. Man will always let you down. You took your eyes off of Christ. I did the same thing for 10 years. Then i realized my error, and through the loving nudges of The Holy Spirit, i came back to Jesus. Guess what, He was right where i left him, waiting to welcome me back home.
To Roger Martinez, still loving the music man. Stay strong brother
That's rog voice! But look so different .... Hope his back heals well!
Colleen, how great to hear from you. Why no phone call? As noted in the zoom, the "look" is horrible and I know it.. I've been in bed over 5 months now but should be back to walking by summer and naturally, I'll look better as I get up and out to the beach!
NO WAY!! At last! The ONE and ONLY Roger Martinez!! :) and... where did you get that t-shirt? I need one!
found the shirt on ebay
Praying for Roger and Simon.
Is this what he’s preaching now?😂😂😂
My biggest question for Roger:
Will we ever get any new music?
Yes give me till around summer to put something together. I like the idea of doing TH-cam takes song by song. That way I can make it an actual video like before the time. All of the new stuff will be sent to everybody by email link at no charge. I'll be doing it just for the fun of doing the music and because I have lots of things to say. Thanks for asking Bradley. What do you do by the way?
@@RogerMartinez-jm1kconce dead is a sick album dude. I still rock it everyday. Fuck yeah.
@@RogerMartinez-jm1kcbeen a fan since about 1993. I too, am an apostate. I would absolutely LOVE to hear what you had planned to release in 2000. Even just a lyric sheet would be amazing. So glad you've come to your senses.
By the way, RIP Hitch. He was instrumental when I was in that period of introspection when I decided to leave Christianity. Absolute legend, like you!
2024 will do it mang. What are you listening to these days? Which label do you like best? Nuclear Blast, Metal Blade, who is doing the best of 2023 and for 2024 do you think? Thanks for writing bro.
Awesome news! I will definitely be looking forward to hearing what you guys put together!
Other than the classics, Newer stuff that I have been listening to:
“Parius”, “Cave In”, “Mastodon”, “Slaughter To Prevail” and “Lorna Shore”. I also liked that “Sleep Token” album quite a bit… even if it was a bit over hyped. The latest “Cattle Decapitation” album is really creative and brutal… like usual.
Question for Roger.....You never saw the church teaching that people should be loved? You said you were taught to condemn those that do not follow God. People are the ones that propagate hate and division. The true mission of the church is to care about everyone. Regardless of belief or affiliation.
You need to read your Bible alittle better.
actually the true mission of the church is to spread the gospel. We are called to love others but not to give pass to sinful lifestyles.
They propagate that hate because their Bible LITERALLY TELLS THEM TO. True, they chose to hate, but how many wouldn't be that way if they weren't told to? Religious people are lazy sheep that don't think for themselves so they need everything spoon-fed to them. Christianity comes as a package deal, scriptures and hate included, which each denomination cherry-picks away at.
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Someone recently asked me to do a podcast but their voice mail was to garbled to hear clearly. Sure bro, Simon and I would love to do that with you. Just replly or call back. my phone erased your call too. We'll get together man. Get bacl to me.
Glad to hear rogers voice, I do miss my old friends.
Why haven't you called? refresh my memory.... let's party here at the beach! Redondo, Hermosa, Manhattan. You around?
I did call, I just thought you were dealing with your medical stuff.@@RogerMartinez-jm1kc
Time to bring Vengeance back and Blow doors! I woke this morning sipped some coffee listen to some birds tweet and then haunted the neighborhood with some Vengeance From the Dead!!!
Thank you for the input Tom. So what are you up to these days?
@@RogerMartinez-jm1kc Chasing the Dream buddy!! Been a crazy life!! I really identify with your story! We're all connected thru the metal Family🤘 And Vengeance was raw meat baby!! I know your probably tired of talking about it after all these years but just want to send good energy your way and say thank you for your contribution to music! I got your # off another podcast you did I'm gonna ring you up one of these nights🤙 brutha
Vengeance Rising to me is like you bring members of the big four,meaning Anthrax, Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer to make one band and spread the word of god
Used to wear my green logo vengeance shirt like 3 days a week back around 1990-91. I got it at a VR show in MD around that time. I think I met Glen, Doug, Roger Dale, and Larry, but Martinez had a crowd.
Great to see Roger and hear him tell his story. Looking forward to hearing what happened with Realms of Blasphemy. Cheers!
At the time I was simply having way too much fun simply enjoying life and partying. Blasphemy is a very fun topic that's for sure. The guy who wrote either the forward or the intro to Mike Pompeo's new book was arrested for blasphemy. He had blasphemed against the supreme ruler of North Korea and was into prison for it. Religious people accuse other people of blasphemy and think it's fine to do so until they themselves are accused of it and arrested and put in the prison for it, or are murdered. I'll look forward to putting together some videos and get them out to everybody at no charge. I've just been very very busy having fun with life and having a great time over these past 30+ years. Is no solution a group or person or what? What are you doing by the way? Thanks for the looking forward. I am too. Cheers indeed.
Also Mike Pompeo is a Republican who may be running for the upcoming presidential race. He was the director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) 2017 to 2018 and was Secretary of State 2018 to 2021. I am currently reading his book "Never Give An Inch."
Blasphemy is a fascinating topic. It seems to have moved in to the secular world more lately...don't criticize the government or you are a far right extremist, etc.
No Solution is just a name I chose for my channel as using my real name just seemed boring. It comes from a Marillion lyric that means a lot to me. I'm just a normal guy, job, family, etc., having some fun talking about tunes on TH-cam. Good talking to you Roger, looking forward to your next video!
Praying For ya Roger! Lord have mercy on you, Dude! I am far from a bigot bro!
I get it. You're simply trying to be a decent person. so how about getting the free audio book by Christopher Hitchens, and after listening to a couple chapters, you, I and Simon can have a few drinks together over zoom and hang a bit.
Don!!
If you're not a bigot, you wouldn't impose your beliefs of torture by mentioning "Lord have mercy on you". You're not tolerant of his rejection of your belief system. It's the same idea as dead-naming a trans person. You aren't respecting their autonomy and choices, your imposing your will and views. That's ABSOLUTELY bigoted.
So are Cretans always liars or not? Keepp in touch bro.
Please come home Roger Jesus still loves you
Come back Roger, you have a creator.
Hey if it jams it jams man!
So this channel is Roger Martinez's "other" channel? How does a guest steer and take over the entire interview, watch here for the "how to" on this.His take on music with the confusing "Satanic Atheism theme" remains "in progress. Good luck with this Simon.
It is certainly not confusing to all the people who are the COS. And if you've seen Ron Reagan's commercial about joining the freedom from religion foundation, (and this is the son of the former-president Ronald Reagan,) he lets you know he's a lifelong atheist, not afraid of burning in hell. The use of the phraseology of Satanism is merely a cathartic tool to let religious people know they will not frighten us with their delusions of a tortured afterlife. Neither do you frighten the heads of the Chinese government with these threats or the governments of India or Saudi Arabia or anybody else for that matter. The threats are a joke and anti-theists here in America can enjoy the utilitarian use of phraseology for the simple fun of it. There is no devil there is no Satan nor is there a Christ. I highly recommend Richard Dawkins TH-cam series the God delusion for you John Renton. But you do by the way?
I am a disciple of Yeshua (Jesus). I believe in the whole of scripture the Torah and the "new" testament. Roger, I totally understand what you walked away from. These peddlers of the gospel are no different than some of the Pharisees that Yeshua confronted who put away the Law of God for traditions of men and took advantage of their fellow man. What you walked away from was not a relationship with the Creator, but religion. I cannot say that you had an actual relationship with God based on your "conversion" story, but you missed the God who created you and loves you and wants you as He wants everyone. There's Law and grace.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
1st john2:19 Roger needs to Repent and believe the Gospel he was not converted .
About 25 years ago when I heard Roger left Christ I was just shocked sad story... I don't think he can come back...
You know the Truth Roger. You've been deceived , turn back to Jesus. Without Him you are lost.
You are delusional
What is "the Truth"?
@v0id616 I suppose the o e that they want to make you believe... yet, the Bible contradict itself all over but nobody cares.
From what I see you accurately portrayed the failings of men. Christian or not we all screw up. If I screw over my friend, I have betrayed him. If I am a christian, does that mean God doesn't exist? Or that God hates the world? No way. These are two separate issues. My parents taught me to help and care for my friends. They were by no means christian. If I don't follow what they taught me, does that mean they never existed? Of course not.
I strongly suggest you enjoy the TH-cam free video series by Richard Dawkins entitled the God delusion. G.O.D. stands for games of deception. This games of deception exist that is for sure. Richard Dawkins discusses it in his series the God delusion. Additionally the professional work by Christopher Hitchens titled "God Is Not Great How Religion Poisons Everything" might help you grow. What do you do? What you plan to do in the next 5 years in your life?
I'm surprised no one has commented on my old school VR shirt!
Send me your white throne Vengeance shirt! My mom thru mine away 30 years ago!
Whether there is some sort of spiritual entity or not that comes anywhere close to being the god of the universe the fact that the Israelite god of the three Abrahamic is not it.
You’ll know them by their fruits. Thanks Roger for your insight.
I love the channel (i go back to the early days when Resurrection Band was about as heavy as it got😅). Having said that, please don't take it the wrong way- but its really not great when you keep interrupting the subjects and interject your thoughts repeatedly. We kinda know your angle but we want to hear from the subjects, not the interviewer. Just my opinion, I'm watching em all either way haha! I have Vengeance, Bride, and Deliverance etc demos, live shows, videos, tees etc. I was mind fucked by full gospel Christianity from an early page and finally thankfully fully turned away in my late teens. I cant believe how fucked in the head all that shit had me and shaped my life.
Do you have videos with Christian guests?
Jimmy brown from deliverance and up soon is George Ochoa
God has the last say so… praying you both will accept Christ before it’s to late
Roger knew the truth, and he's rejected it. He will be without excuse.
This individual is a perfect example of what i was talkng about. He's living a life of vile hatred based on a superstition. That is what the delusionary psybhosis of his religion causes more often than not. So James, do you have the evidence of the holy spirit by speaking in tounges or not? Probably not rigtht? So send me your zip code and I'll send you 20 churches in your area where you can go learn about "the trugn" of evidence" you fail to manifest. Are you saying those who speak in tongues are "rejecting the truth" or are you "rejecting" the pentecostal truth?
What is your zip code?
@@RogerMartinez-jm1kc You're deflecting and you're speaking falsehoods. I see more vile hatred coming from you.
He had really strong teaching tapes out back in the '80's,I saw them twice at Cornerstone fest and they were on fire for Christ,check there first 2 albums,loaded with scripture verses for each song,search and know the Bible so you can be like the Bereans and spot false teaching
Seriously? Man, stop for a moment and think in that sentence. Basically we are doom if we don't believe on Jesus? That's the only option?
@@theunboxer1677Not simply believing on Jesus, but receiving His gift of salvation. Even the Devil believes in Jesus.
How has the diabeetus been?
Christians and Mulims do not have similar theology at all. Huge differences the same as the Catholic Church. BTW true Christians do not hate people, we hate the sin and sinful lifestyles. How do you define "good"? What do you base people's goodness on? Is your Morality subjective?
Of course they do. Both Abrahamic religions. Perhaps actually read the Qur'an. You will find Jesus Christ is a major character in it.
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Roger, as a believer I would, and never will judge you whether it's verbally or in my thoughts. I understand the Church ruined it for you but not all of us are like that. i am very sorry these so called "Christians" acted like jerks to you back in the day but please don't judge all of us as judgemental wackos. I am not saying to go back to God, but also understand there are a small amount of us out here that would not say garbage that these other "Christian" idiots have said to you in the past then act like they're perfect.
THAT BOOK THEY ARE PROMOTING ISNT WORTH SHYT
Christopher Hitchens was a scholar and intellectual with awesome debating skills.
Matt Dillahunty also does great exposes on Christianity and was a former preacher and pastor.
One difference between his old self as a believer versus his current non-belief is that he has completely lost his charisma. Coincidence?
Ha ha ha ha ha.... define chrasima and who is Ric W ? Allow me to retort.
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You don’t know me. But I was a fan of Vengeance back in the day.
Let’s see what the actual dictionary definition says…
From (Merriam-Webster)
charisma
noun
cha·ris·ma kə-ˈriz-mə
Synonyms of charisma
1
: a personal magic of leadership arousing special popular loyalty or enthusiasm for a public figure (such as a political leader)
His success was largely due to his charisma.
2
: a special magnetic charm or appeal
the charisma of a popular actor
My words…
You had a great energy and command over the audience. It was almost like you were on caffeine though! LOL
Maybe it was “wit” or something. Who knows…
Does Phil Anselmo, Mike Muir, Corey Taylor or your old buddy Mark Salomon ring a bell? I would say they had a type of “charisma”. I think you know what I meant dude. When you spoke, people would listen.
Now I think people are mostly interested in a weird gossip tabloid kind of way.
I was a absolutely “on fire” in the late 80s early 90s, tons of Xian “charisma”, thought I knew everything, like I held the keys to “eternal life”, unfortunately(fortunately) I was full shit! A lot of it is just youthful exuberance too, at least now I don’t try to act like I know things there’s no way any man can know! The height of hypocrisy. We may seem calmer and have “less charisma” but at least we live in reality and not the grip of a ridiculous delusion. 👌😮
@@RogerMartinez-jm1kc do you like comedian tim hawkins? dennis miller, ann coulter are both good.
And what in the world the catholics, wars, and all the religions have to do with God and his scripture? Too sad Roger is lost.
HOW CAN SOMEONE FALL AWAY LIKE THIS
HE STARTED LOOKING AT 99% OF THE INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT HE PROBABLY IGNORED WHEN HE WAS A BELIEVER. THINGS THAT MADE HIM QUESTION HIS FAITH WERE AVOIDED BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM HEAD-ON, THEY MAKE YOU LOOK AT REALITY. SCIENCE, BIOLOGY AND COMMON SENSE.
Roger didn't put Jesus as preeminent in this interview and he suffers for it. I'm out!!!!!!! Christopher Hitchins!!!!!! Are you kidding me!!! 😠😣😫
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out🥳
is the roger or bam 😂😂😂😂😂