Since the release of the original xm1 i love EGG so much, even tho i alreayd have xm2 and xm1 i will probably buy this one. 8k and smaller shape i think i could main that for sure especially because i have smaller hands and i claw grip,
i would love to see an optical and mechanical hotswap version with wireless and bt someday, even if it would take until 2025 or 2026 with nearly the same latenmcy annd cfg tool
Anybody else having issues with GX Speed mode or just me? Not sure if it’s a hardware or software issue, but I’ve been having issues with the clicks getting stuck when activated and not getting deactivated for a few seconds. So in other words my mouse1 gets activated and shoots for a good 3 seconds or so. Only happens on gx speed mode.
i just received my copy and i switched out the original switches with the 50-55 switches but for some reason they feel little less lighter and louder is there a reason for that is there maybe something i could have done wrong.
Compared to DAv3 this has better shape (totally subjective ofc), better coating, mechanical switches, easier to mod and included grips. This should be much better unless you prefer palm grip, love opticals or have very big hands, then Deathadder is the way to go.
Is it just me am I the jaded one for saying we have a bit of an obsession now for everything to be wireless because the market has been flooded with all these wireless mice? Reason I say that is many now looked at a wired mouse and give it the red headed step child treatment and sent to the corner. Of course each implementation has its own advantages, I would argue wired still holds the crown for a few reasons. I have both wired and wireless, Pulsar x2 mini, Pulsar og, Sora 4k. I don't care what these companies say about their wireless tech, a wire will always provided the fastest, stable connection. You never need to charge the battery, I would argue even that the freedom you can have with no wire, providing there is a good implementation of the cord how it sits into the mouse and if you have an adequate bungie, the metrics would be negligible between the two. Easier to make lightweight without having to completely alter the shell. Also because I have had this issue with all of my wireless mice, being they run on 2.4ghz, I run wifi 6 on one computer and the other is cat7. Anytime there is a lot of downloading or uploading all the mice start stuttering until i plug them in and are not using the network anymore. This is not to say it happens to everybody but it is an issue. Not crapping on wireless, I own some. Just saying don't forget about the past, still a lot of benefits there so much so I would argue you get more benefits and less potential issues versus what convivence you get from wireless.
It is if you want cheap performance with no downsides besides a wire. If you have a mouse bungee and set it up right, you won't even notice the wire when you are playing.
@@IStratz I'm willing to pay more for wireless and no loss of performance. If there is a tangible differnce, it might be worth suffering with wire if these new 8k mice are that insane.
@drewmorg6446 I mean if someone is used to wireless and has low sensitivity it might be hard to use wires but there's still plenty of people who prefer wired even if it wasn't cheaper. And of course you don't need to charge it and it's lighter than the wireless equivalent.
@drewmorg6446 It's up to you really. If it were me, I would take into account sensor latency, shape, weight, and price. Then I decide off of that. This ticks all those boxes for me, but your priorities might be different. If you have unlimited cash and want the best of the best, viper mini signature has a 3950 sensor which is under exclusivity for a few more months. So nobody else can beat razer in sensor latency. And it's wireless. But also 300 dollars. I also don't like the shape.
Loved the detailed review on the switches+internal builds. Too bad I couldn't see the RGB in action. I'm not fond of RGB leds but this transperent look is really appealing. I agree with the top comment tho. I think you may be too generous on the titles. Your reviews themselves are very detailed and informative, the titles kinda stigmatize the content into a no-brain review which it really isn't.
Hello, thanks for the effort making the video. I feel like you really under emphasized the key of this video which was the .077ms!! Would have loved to hear you talk more about that
this thing look incredible my friend. i play so much on my mouse. i open everyone in last 10 years and try to improve them always, with weight, shape or click. The Last Time i sawed my mm720 smaller and reshape sche again. But here, i really dont know what to improve. You can only try to change some switches. I dont exactly understand why they dont using at all mice, this optical switches... but ok maybe they tryed to safe some money. I dont need 8k, i like the normal Op1 in white. I not understand why the op1-we has different sensor. But you forget to say somehting about this skatez. How they are? Can you put some Superglides on this? Ok, Only one thing would be cool at this mouse, maybe lower the 118mm shape to 105-112mm, more for a finger-claw grip. But this look really really good. im waiting for the TecGuidePower Sensor Testing reviews, hope they program the sensor CPI good. But man very nice channel, very professional reviews.
@@dewbe5327 what u mean? U tryed 8k/4k on tarkov? Dont think 8k work on onlinegames. Only on singlegames like aimlabs or kovak. Or photoshop software stuff.
endgame gear does insane stuff but sadly the mouse versions all are waiting for (xm2w and op1w) with the 3395 and probably the GX switches for the wireless mouse dont come out still for the enxt years.. there years behind
Thank you so much for showing us the PCBs!!! You should show us the chips too though since they're different on the 8k model. SPDT stands for "single pole double throw" which describes the type of switch.
How hard you to have to push the left and right click on the 8K version? I like to have a light click feel mouse. I had a xm1 before, and it had a very heavy switch. Keep up the good work!😎🔥
i love EGG mice but I've had issues with their cable, I kept having to replace them cause if you tug on it even with minimal force, it stops working at least from my experience. Apart from that, I love my xm2we and my xm1rs.
There is no reason at all to tug, thus why you need a bungie to have loose cable around while playing. If that’s not the case, revisit your set up. I’ve never had issues with any wired mouse, including XM1r
Ignoring the ugly software, this looks like a pretty darn good mouse but I remember the feel and nuisance that the cable can be, i just can't go back to a wired mouse.
This is awesome to see, but can't help to feel a little betrayed by the fact that these new switch packs (or somehing similar) don't work on the OP1we. I got the "lighter" switch pack for it but still didn't like them, and it's honestly the only thing keeping me from maining it over the Atlantis Mini.
Glad to hear it. I was about to get a wireless mouse because of y’all. It’s great to get the awesome performance for half the price of wireless. With an elevated cable holder I think it’s nearly the same ease of movement you get with wireless
It shouldn't not be an issue with RPG's as you don't need super fast and precise accuracy thats wanted when playing FPS games where even the drag of the cable can hamper your pecision costing you your life.
M2K supposedly had the lowest click latency with 110 microseconds tested on the XLAT per OptimumTech's testing. The OP1 8K was tested on an XLAT with an average of 70ish microseconds. Sensor latency wise though, we don't really know if it's going to be the fastest. Razer still has the edge on sensor tech because they have exclusivity with Pixart for the 3950 sensor (one generation ahead of the 3395 which is what everyone else is using). So it's probably unlikely that this will have lower sensor latency than Razer's most up to date mice. Rtings will probably do some testing for the OP1 8K in the next couple of months which will give us initial movement sensor latency, middle movement latency, and end movement latency.
Fantastic video Liam 🫡 Appreciate the detailed steps on how to swap out the switches. I don’t mind wired mice since I play high sens but great to see more of these coming back. Struggling to pick one of these up where I am though 🥺
@@randallkubiszewski6908 i did and it helped alot. bought pulsar supergrip tape and put 2 strips on the right side and 1 on the left. its so good now❤️
The Razer mice basically always have an edge because they get exclusive 1 year early-access to the newest pixart sensors. The viper mini signature has been on a 3950 sensor while everyone else is on the "older" 3395's (I think the one year mark for the 3950's is in a few months, so then new mice will come out with those). So most likely the viper signature is still probably going to have slightly lower sensor latency numbers compared to this. But I would imagine it's probably right beneath the viper signature and GPX 2 in terms of sensor latency. Rtings will have sensor latency numbers for it most likely in a few months. @@Max-ss2gy
Wireless was only mainstream a few years ago. Before that it was literally only wired mice. If you think having the lowest latency mouse on the market for 70 dollars is an L release, then I don't think you know what you are talking about.
Well said man. EGG is clearly an enthusiast brand. But this feels truest to their brand name. And being wired wow
Thanks for dropping by brother!
Miss you bro! Loved the reviews you made they are so amazing ❤
@@VoidlessClacker 🫶🥹
It's wild that you can change the switches.
Now they just need to make a wireless variant of this to replace the OP1we.
Good review. What is that music for your intro? That's pretty cool
the intro with the viper signature is insanely cool idk how u only got 11k
TY
Since the release of the original xm1 i love EGG so much, even tho i alreayd have xm2 and xm1 i will probably buy this one. 8k and smaller shape i think i could main that for sure especially because i have smaller hands and i claw grip,
i would love to see an optical and mechanical hotswap version with wireless and bt someday, even if it would take until 2025 or 2026 with nearly the same latenmcy annd cfg tool
Anybody else having issues with GX Speed mode or just me? Not sure if it’s a hardware or software issue, but I’ve been having issues with the clicks getting stuck when activated and not getting deactivated for a few seconds. So in other words my mouse1 gets activated and shoots for a good 3 seconds or so. Only happens on gx speed mode.
They have an update coming out
i just received my copy and i switched out the original switches with the 50-55 switches but for some reason they feel little less lighter and louder is there a reason for that is there maybe something i could have done wrong.
Could just be the yield unfortunately. Mine do actually feel lighter. Sorry to hear about this. Perhaps reach out to them and see what they say?
How does its width compare to the lamzu atlantis mini and maya?
How does it compare to the wired DAV3 considering it sells for way lower price and its 8k too?
I prefer the shape of this personally
Compared to DAv3 this has better shape (totally subjective ofc), better coating, mechanical switches, easier to mod and included grips. This should be much better unless you prefer palm grip, love opticals or have very big hands, then Deathadder is the way to go.
Is it just me am I the jaded one for saying we have a bit of an obsession now for everything to be wireless because the market has been flooded with all these wireless mice? Reason I say that is many now looked at a wired mouse and give it the red headed step child treatment and sent to the corner. Of course each implementation has its own advantages, I would argue wired still holds the crown for a few reasons.
I have both wired and wireless, Pulsar x2 mini, Pulsar og, Sora 4k. I don't care what these companies say about their wireless tech, a wire will always provided the fastest, stable connection. You never need to charge the battery, I would argue even that the freedom you can have with no wire, providing there is a good implementation of the cord how it sits into the mouse and if you have an adequate bungie, the metrics would be negligible between the two.
Easier to make lightweight without having to completely alter the shell. Also because I have had this issue with all of my wireless mice, being they run on 2.4ghz, I run wifi 6 on one computer and the other is cat7. Anytime there is a lot of downloading or uploading all the mice start stuttering until i plug them in and are not using the network anymore. This is not to say it happens to everybody but it is an issue. Not crapping on wireless, I own some. Just saying don't forget about the past, still a lot of benefits there so much so I would argue you get more benefits and less potential issues versus what convivence you get from wireless.
Please send me one
This software looking like win XP😂😂
and its better. 02mb on disk
@@n444Nuits xm2w was fake
G502 for the win
Ive yet to find that mouse layout and feel in anyother
Mf loves a brick 💀
You get destroyed in FPS guarunteed
Haven't used a wired mouse in like 4 years... no way wired is the way right?
Wrong! (Arnold voice)
It is if you want cheap performance with no downsides besides a wire. If you have a mouse bungee and set it up right, you won't even notice the wire when you are playing.
@@IStratz I'm willing to pay more for wireless and no loss of performance. If there is a tangible differnce, it might be worth suffering with wire if these new 8k mice are that insane.
@drewmorg6446 I mean if someone is used to wireless and has low sensitivity it might be hard to use wires but there's still plenty of people who prefer wired even if it wasn't cheaper. And of course you don't need to charge it and it's lighter than the wireless equivalent.
@drewmorg6446 It's up to you really. If it were me, I would take into account sensor latency, shape, weight, and price. Then I decide off of that. This ticks all those boxes for me, but your priorities might be different. If you have unlimited cash and want the best of the best, viper mini signature has a 3950 sensor which is under exclusivity for a few more months. So nobody else can beat razer in sensor latency. And it's wireless. But also 300 dollars. I also don't like the shape.
so much sellout, chill pls
There is no sellout, this mouse is actually insane
@@hyclea9530 they won’t care they already decided that red dragon is the best
I could see myself swapping the frost shell to the 8k one so the 8k as that frost look lol. Great review.
This is a really cool idea.
I have their mousepad (EM-C) and it is insane, Endgear is making good stuff.
Awesome look at the mouse and the switches! I've been loving mine so far.
Loved the detailed review on the switches+internal builds.
Too bad I couldn't see the RGB in action. I'm not fond of RGB leds but this transperent look is really appealing.
I agree with the top comment tho. I think you may be too generous on the titles. Your reviews themselves are very detailed and informative, the titles kinda stigmatize the content into a no-brain review which it really isn't.
Hauno transparent blue shell pink dot, or kalih gx lighter switches?
Thanks for such a great review and in-depth review about why it's different and better.
Hello, thanks for the effort making the video. I feel like you really under emphasized the key of this video which was the .077ms!! Would have loved to hear you talk more about that
this thing look incredible my friend. i play so much on my mouse. i open everyone in last 10 years and try to improve them always, with weight, shape or click. The Last Time i sawed my mm720 smaller and reshape sche again. But here, i really dont know what to improve. You can only try to change some switches. I dont exactly understand why they dont using at all mice, this optical switches... but ok maybe they tryed to safe some money.
I dont need 8k, i like the normal Op1 in white. I not understand why the op1-we has different sensor. But you forget to say somehting about this skatez. How they are? Can you put some Superglides on this?
Ok, Only one thing would be cool at this mouse, maybe lower the 118mm shape to 105-112mm, more for a finger-claw grip.
But this look really really good. im waiting for the TecGuidePower Sensor Testing reviews, hope they program the sensor CPI good.
But man very nice channel, very professional reviews.
Dang bro, exceptional video!!
My 8k coming in tomorrow 😢😢😢
Never knew that nerding out on just a computer mouse could be so exciting! 😁
I only got it for 2 days but its currently my favourite mouse. Feels so snappy and responsive and great build quality.
Basic or 8k?
@GodyArtDesign 8k. I didn't consider the other choices but probably the basics are good as well.
@@ferusic2463 they had different mainboard chip.
So maybe different sensor software adjustment. It can do a different feeling
@@dewbe5327 what u mean? U tryed 8k/4k on tarkov?
Dont think 8k work on onlinegames.
Only on singlegames like aimlabs or kovak.
Or photoshop software stuff.
hello dont you have problems with the wire?
endgame gear does insane stuff but sadly the mouse versions all are waiting for (xm2w and op1w) with the 3395 and probably the GX switches for the wireless mouse dont come out still for the enxt years.. there years behind
Why blud glowing like he is the mice god that im dreaming about
Daddy chill 💅🏾
Thank you so much for showing us the PCBs!!! You should show us the chips too though since they're different on the 8k model. SPDT stands for "single pole double throw" which describes the type of switch.
How hard you to have to push the left and right click on the 8K version? I like to have a light click feel mouse. I had a xm1 before, and it had a very heavy switch. Keep up the good work!😎🔥
New switches are very light
@@AimAdaptmuch lighter compared to the op1we clicks? The op1we switches felt so heavy
@@Miketacticz much lighter
Very nicely shown the tech and nice calm video. Thumbs up for you mate
im a big fan of the xm1 model from endgame is this new model a similar shape.
I think it’s just smaller with same shape, but idk! Someone answer this comment and tell us hahaha
Should I get lamzu maya or this op1 8k? trying to replace this haste 2 wireless asap. TIA.
If u don't care for wire then op1 8k
They lack some fun in the color design department but apart from that they do impress with the specs.
Wires are for the OGs.
i love EGG mice but I've had issues with their cable, I kept having to replace them cause if you tug on it even with minimal force, it stops working at least from my experience. Apart from that, I love my xm2we and my xm1rs.
There is no reason at all to tug, thus why you need a bungie to have loose cable around while playing. If that’s not the case, revisit your set up. I’ve never had issues with any wired mouse, including XM1r
@@apkennaI second that. Still have my xm1r working after 3+ years
i cant go back to a wired mouse
Ignoring the ugly software, this looks like a pretty darn good mouse but I remember the feel and nuisance that the cable can be, i just can't go back to a wired mouse.
This is awesome to see, but can't help to feel a little betrayed by the fact that these new switch packs (or somehing similar) don't work on the OP1we. I got the "lighter" switch pack for it but still didn't like them, and it's honestly the only thing keeping me from maining it over the Atlantis Mini.
I['ve been using a Death Adder Pro V3 and love it.
any difference in performance on the normal and the 8k version besides the polling rate and switches?
so the only difference is switches and pooling rate? going for the normal op1
awesome review.... as always. as expected
Thanks for the review. Very high effort and detailed video
oh i thought they released the wireless version with these specs hahaaha
realistically how many ms would the speed mode save you? seeing as the physical time required for the mouse to actuate
14:36 I think its Kailh Go 60-65gf not Kailh GX
No, GX is correct. GO is the optical switch from our we series. GX is our mechanical switch.
is there any plan for op1 flagship wireless? biting my nails hard rn lol@@Endgamegear_Max
hello, will there be any updates on wireless op1 with swappable mech switches as well? @@Endgamegear_Max
I am guessing they had to make this since they couldn’t make the XM2W?
Looks interesting thought i prefer wireless mice...i'm curious to try also their keyboard with rapid trigger
i can only get the op1we in my country so im wondering what are the biggest diff other than being able to use 8khz
Glad to hear it. I was about to get a wireless mouse because of y’all. It’s great to get the awesome performance for half the price of wireless. With an elevated cable holder I think it’s nearly the same ease of movement you get with wireless
1st fr
Can you review Metaphyuni Metapanda P1? it has an ergonomic design and under 50$
What is the weight range of the default GX switches in the OP1 (wired)? And is there a replacement for them available or only the light GX switches?
How do you bring up the software?
Omg that micro switch works based on the similar theory as the wooting keyboard with the rapid trigger 😮
What disadvantages may have the wire? Im scared of draggin it and i dont rly want a bungee , i play league and action rpgs
It shouldn't not be an issue with RPG's as you don't need super fast and precise accuracy thats wanted when playing FPS games where even the drag of the cable can hamper your pecision costing you your life.
Remember folks , this mouse will not aim for you
why is this considered to be faster than razer / m2k?
M2K supposedly had the lowest click latency with 110 microseconds tested on the XLAT per OptimumTech's testing. The OP1 8K was tested on an XLAT with an average of 70ish microseconds. Sensor latency wise though, we don't really know if it's going to be the fastest. Razer still has the edge on sensor tech because they have exclusivity with Pixart for the 3950 sensor (one generation ahead of the 3395 which is what everyone else is using). So it's probably unlikely that this will have lower sensor latency than Razer's most up to date mice. Rtings will probably do some testing for the OP1 8K in the next couple of months which will give us initial movement sensor latency, middle movement latency, and end movement latency.
Beast X Mini review? It’s a banger
Fire vid 🔥🔥🔥
U should try the ninjutso sora v2
I should get wired or wireless?, i like a lot the shape of this mouse
If u like the shape and don't really have a issue with the wire then get it
Fantastic video Liam 🫡 Appreciate the detailed steps on how to swap out the switches. I don’t mind wired mice since I play high sens but great to see more of these coming back. Struggling to pick one of these up where I am though 🥺
Great review!
if only it was a few mm wider..
Add grips
@@randallkubiszewski6908 i did and it helped alot. bought pulsar supergrip tape and put 2 strips on the right side and 1 on the left. its so good now❤️
The only reviewer I trust for doing these reviews with swappable switches. Glad you finally got this review out.
Is this the same shape as the Xm1R????😊
No. This is a smaller mouse. XM2we is the wireless version of XM1 shape.
Thank you for your answer! :)
I know you got that beast x mini video cooking! When can we expect it? As always, top tier content!
Showing some gameplay footage will make these videos a lot more fun to watch
Please god no. Biggest problem with mouse reviewers is they think everyone wants to watch their mid gameplay footage.
🙅
So this a good comp mouse why so cheap for this mouse if it’s so good does it compete with top mice ?
Wired mice are a bit cheaper.
This could be the best mouse if they wouldn't do that shit wide back..... WHY!?
If they make the back same width as the front, its GG, ENDGAME !
Biggest shill
Its not the fastest
Which one do you think is faster
@@Max-ss2gym3k
The Razer mice basically always have an edge because they get exclusive 1 year early-access to the newest pixart sensors. The viper mini signature has been on a 3950 sensor while everyone else is on the "older" 3395's (I think the one year mark for the 3950's is in a few months, so then new mice will come out with those). So most likely the viper signature is still probably going to have slightly lower sensor latency numbers compared to this. But I would imagine it's probably right beneath the viper signature and GPX 2 in terms of sensor latency. Rtings will have sensor latency numbers for it most likely in a few months. @@Max-ss2gy
Horrible shape & Wired lol
I bet your on wireless 150$ mouse hard stuck in silver/gold 😂
I use Logitech gpro superlight. I bet you're a bot.@@dewbe5327
can we stop arguing that cables are used at all by the mainstream at this point. im sorry but this is a L release
Wireless was only mainstream a few years ago. Before that it was literally only wired mice. If you think having the lowest latency mouse on the market for 70 dollars is an L release, then I don't think you know what you are talking about.
I just went back from wireless to wired because of this launch.