I can't believe it. The first review ever, where the reviewer talks about the audio output of a controller.... + latency, hiss, loudness. Instant sub!!!! I had the Pro version and exp the same good stuff with the audio. Problem was the stick drift... I saw your calibration video prior to this one, i think i give the TE Version another chance.
I hope your channel goes big and you won't change the way you do reviews. I like the objective approach with regards to the presentation without any flashy (pseudo-funny) expressions. Wish you luck.
I've been watching him for quite awhile now and I don't take anybody elses opinion on controller other than his, I feel like we have a very similar taste in controller and how they should feel and he covers everything i want a reviewer to cover. All everybody else does is covers the buttons and says it's an amazing controller. i find those reviews so pathetic and pretty much just a sponsored post.
I was waiting for your review before pulling the trigger on Razer v3 TE. This si a great, honest review. Keep it up. At this point you are the only controller reviewer i trust. Thank you 🙏
@@thephototechy Mine arrived with the A button sometimes not registering inputs unless pressed harder than usual, only happens when I play with a claw grip so the paddles make up for the issue.
@@XipsiiL bro I have a serious play on sticks which I just can't get used to and the right bumper has a mind of its own at times 😞. If I can get a good unit of the series 2 I'd definitely use it a lot, specially in Xdefiant as that game can somehow feel better with high resolution sticks.
@@thephototechysame here bro, mine has huge play, sometimes over 10% on the left stick which gives really bad drift when releasing, the right also has a lot of play but generally doesn’t drift as badly
Hands down the best video i've watched regarding this controller. I will be purchasing a returned one and manually callibrating it myself hehe. Thank you.
Great review, appreciate your work. I got a v3 TE last week. For me, it’s the best Xbox controller I’ve ever used (and I’ve tried a lot). The higher stick tension is a big plus, the circular output setting works great in Halo, and I really like this back button layout over the alternatives. Only nitpicks so far: the triggers and back buttons are hard and can get a little uncomfortable in a long session, and I wish the bumpers were more clicky like the triggers and face buttons.
Don’t the G7 SE/HE is still better and the sticks on the Razer are so stiff 👎🏻 and remember GameSir is soon coming out with a G7 PRO controller with all the same stuff the V3 PRO have + the G7 PRO will have the new TMR sticks 🙌🏻
If you need the extra buttons then definitely, but if you are ok with 2 back buttons on the G7se then I'd say stick with that, unless you actually would like to try that standard output of the V3 TE. the 1000hz on G7se on xbox is definitely something very unique.
Don’t listen to people saying the g7 se is better, I’ve had 2 that broke because the cable wouldn’t connect or stopped working, everyone wants to sugar coat gamesir and dick ride them, like 50% of their batch are faulty controllers.
7:30 just letting you know, you can adjust the deadzones to 0 on the wolverine chroma. The slider is a bit weird, you have to move it all the way to 4 or 5 then bring it down to 0.
Hey what's your firmware version on chroma? Mine is 1.2.0.0 and the slider only has 1-4 either no 0 option. Also if your chroma can do 0 deadzone it might be able to do manual calibration as well, using the method I showed for the V3 in a separate video, can you confirm this plz.
@@thephototechy sorry I'm actually mistaken, it does only go to 1. For some reason, I was imagining a 0. The reason why is because I assumed 1 equalled a 0 on the chroma as I find it a lot more responsive than a 1 on the v3 TE. But that is my bad.
@@ALI.x thanks for calling informing bro, I was thinking maybe I have the old batch and there is a new batch out there with V3 firmware on it 😂. What you've just described is the difference of HE vs potentiometer, we really need a proper 0 deadzone on HE in my experience, where as on potentiometer sticks I've used a slight deadzone just to overcome that over sensitive feel. Really appreciate you taking the time and confirming this!
Definitely my 4 back button controller too, for 2 back buttons I'm sticking with G7se and Kaleid, hoping to get the HE stics for Thrustmaster soon, those might change things around for me.
I just wanna say i loved this review. Fair and honest, and unlike other reviewers you dont present things that are opinion/preference as fact. Even reading the comments here i see preferences stated as fact. I have a question for you. I have the Gamesir SE and Kaleid. If they have the same sticks why do they feel so different? The Kaleid sticks feel so loose and not precise compared to the SE for me.
Great Review. Just something I’ve noticed, it’s very difficult to find you. Typing “Photo Techy” into the search bar without something like “Gamesir” or other Key words doesn’t show your channel. I’m subbed for while, but usually I search for channels instead of scrolling through the list.
One thing Id like to see on this controller is a mute/unmute buttons using left and right dpad and menu buttons. It would make it easier to mute. Im sure it could be implemented in a software patch or on another model.
Hey man, first of all, you have the best videos over controllers by far, it’s not even close. I have a question: I currently have the Kaleid and the g7 se, love them both. Unfortunately, something about the build of these controllers just don’t fit my hands, constant cramps in the fingers on my right hand. Would you suggest the Wolverine V3 TE as the next best option? Thanks!
Great review, I really value the aspects you cover and the detail you go into in your videos. I'm really thinking this is the controller for me for Black Ops 6 but knowing my luck GameSir will release a Pro controller within a month 😅
Hey, great review as usual. How does aiming on this controller feel compared to the Vitrix Gambit? Is one more reaponsive than the other? Do the response curves feel similar?
Hey bro so Gambit does have it's own aim feel that I haven'tfelt in any other controller. Those favorunion sticks definitely feel great and perform very well, but my Gambit has a lot of play time now and it's definitely degraded even after calibrations and that built in deadzone which wasn't much of an issue in the biginning, now seems to be worse feeling, might because of me playing with 0 deadzones all this time. The V3 TE is a vey good HE stick performer but it'll still have that HE feel to it, but it'll allow you to play with a true 0 deadzone which is a plus for sure.
Fantastic review! Thank you for sharing such deep insights about the controller's performance. This is my first HE thumbstick controller, so I was surprised to see that there is stick drift. Do all HE thumbsticks drift at 0 deadzone? Should I keep trying to recalibrate the sticks? Besides the slight stick drift, I adore this controller. I wish I never bought my Elite Series 2 and had known this was coming out. I play both MnK and controller on Apex Legends and now have a hall effect (Wooting) keyboard and hall effect Razer Wolverine v3 TE 😆
Hey so with any controller having a true 0 deadzone will show a slight drift depending the play the spring has. This is definitely not game breaking and can actually be beneficial for aim assist. I personally play with 0 deadzones on all my HE controllers as I do find adding a deadzone on HE sticks makes them feel sluggish for me at least. You can check how much register you have at rest and If the centre point is not exactly centre then you might have the drift all on one side which makes it feel like a lot more than it should be. With the V3TE you should have a good centre with no deadzones and minimal drift at rest, depending of in game sensitivity you use.
Hey bro, amazing feeling controller for sure. Only thing I wish they added was a deadzone % slider instead of 5 options because you're only going to be using 0-2. Anything above that is just ridiculous so if we had finer control that would be amazing.
Also I have the same issue as yours. My left inputs are Slightly higher than my right. It's not horrible but I'm very finicky and I can feel those slight things. Hopefully a Software update could fiX it but tbh the mass audience will not even notice those things so nothing will happen 😭🤣
Ah man I ca't believe you have the same as mine. I don't think this can be fixed via firmware, as my Stealth Ultra has this with a lot worse values, and many firmware updates came for that one, even one with aim output change and this is stilll there, as if the sticks on hardware level can't read some values.
Question for yah ? Does it come 250hz straight out the box for Xbox ? Or do you gotta set that yourself ? And I kno you can’t get it to 1000hz on Xbox but can you get 500hz on Xbox? I appreciate the videos man !! Keep up the good work! Happy New years
Helloo, first of all thanks for the quality of you're video, I've buy this Wolverine V3 cause of you're review, and just out of box the both LT and RT don't work until I activate the trigger stop :/ Did you have any advice?
I had the exact same issue as you. My hands cramped as well. I also agree with you on the triggers. Its mouse click but they are a longer pull then the Scuff triggers and it felt slow to me. Right now the Scuff is still my favorite, followed by the Gamsir G7 SE. I do feel though if you are a fan of the V2 you will like the V3. Its not a bad controller, just not for me.
@@thephototechy The scuff is great. Only thing is it can get stick drift. I normally don't buy an extended warranty but I did on the scuff. I have had mine now for two years and really haven't developed any stick drift so far, but have friends that haven't been so lucky.
I had a lot of issues with razer cables and losing connection mid game which was completely solved by getting a kontrol freek cable. Current goat for me after an adjustment period.
Great video you have a new subscriber, I'm looking for a new Xbox controller that has the lowest delay and hall effect deadzones. As far as I know, only the G7 SE is hitting 1000hz on Xbox right? Also maybe TLR sticks will be superior and I hear the G7 Pro will offer them. But it will it have 1000hz?! This is madness lol
Hey bro thanks for the sub, as I write this reply I'm going through some test results for the wolverine V3 TE on Xbox, where I used the shortcut to enable 1000hz profile. I noticed we can do the shortcut on Xbox and the controller restarts, and when connect to PC afterwards it's in 1000hz already. About to get all the data to see if there's a difference at all. So far the G7se has been the best performing in 1000hz on Xbox in ally tests. But my SE is firmware 6.30, newer ones coming with 6.33 out of box so not sure about those, need to get one to test.
Thank you friend! I hear TLR sticks will be the future beyond hall effect, so I'm sure I can look forward to a comprehensive comparison... even across firmwares?!?! Wow bro you are killing it GGs out there
Great video m8 🤗 It’s an “okay” controller, G7 SE/HE is still better in my opinion and you can get two G7 SE/HE for the same price as one V3 TE and soon the G7 PRO will launch with TMR sticks 🙌🏻 I hate trigger stops, it’s trash, “hair” triggers like on the G7 is way better in my opinion so it’s not just a “you” think, a lot of people don’t like trigger stops.
Thanks for sharing bro, I do think the aiming performance of G7se in 1000hz beat this for sure. Mechanical trigger stops can be good, like I have in teh Hex phantom which I did get adjusted to, here on the V3 they feel of better quality but the increased force definitely makes me want to not use them, as I can press the trigger much quicker qithout them engaged.
I appreciate all the great controller videos. I'm looking for a controller recommendation. I currently have the gamesir g7 se and looking to return it and get a different controller. The things I don't like about it are the back buttons aren't paddles and are awkward for me to consistently press. Also the thumbsticks have very little tension. I love everything else about the controller. Based on this, which controller would you recommend for me? Thanks
Hey bro so I've tested them both and the controller didn't show better latency when tournament mode was activated on Xbox. Thinking of making a video explaining this in a bit more detail
As far as the smart triggers go, I think you’re just not used to it. It took me a month or two for those to feel natural to me when I got a Scuf Instinct since I’ve been using the regular triggers for most of my life. 2 years later and now I can’t play with anything else, which is why this controller is so appealing to me, especially with the price being so cheap compared to the competition.
i can't believe u where used to press the back buttons with the pinkies! I think you are the only one doing this. It's completely normal to use ring and middle fingers.
Hey bro sorry I don't use the little finger for pressing the back buttons, I meant to describe using them for the grip, where the bottom of the grip gives ome levarage to the little finger. for pressing it's mostly the middle finger and on some I can use the ring finger as well, like the V3 TE.
As someone who really wants 4 rear buttons, smooth thumbtack rings, mouse clicky, and 1000HZ capabilities do you think I should pick this one up or wait for the Gamesir G7 Pro that’s supposedly coming out.
Hey bro I'm not sure if the Gamesir pro will have 4 back buttons, right now we only have the front image. I really hope they make one with 4 back buttons, and hopefully it'll behave like the Kalied where we get a true 1000hz on PC and still can use 500hz on Xbox.
In the 1000hz Mode ("PC") the controller is using an Xbox 360 driver. Which means : No extra mapping , no trigger vibrations & no share button. Very barebones if you want a 1000hz. Also yes , your pedal mappings WILL WORK in 1000hz .
Hey bro so whatever you'll set in 250hz mode in the app wil still be there in 1000hz mode. Also in 1000hz mode you map the extr buttons on the controller itself without the app, but the app will only work in xbox 250hz mode.
@@thephototechy thank for the reply ! Yes i know , but software like Re-wasd for other mappings would put it back to 250hz Also the xbox 360 driver disables trigger vibrations & no option to use the xbox / share button . So you lose alot for the 1000hz . I ending up using the Xbox series x/s driver in 250hz mode (wired on pc)
@@midboys hey bro thanks for sharing this info, I only game on console so haven't tried any remapping on PC yet. Will pin this so others can find this information 🙏
I’m confused, I see in top comments that you get 1000 hz with Xbox 360 drivers!? Lol sorry can you clarify on this? I own the pro version so maybe I’m out of luck
I’m still not quite understanding the double dead zone feature. In layman’s terms what does having it enabled vs not having it enabled mean. Does having is disabled (unchecked) essentially mean it’s just raw input ? As in whatever I use in game that’s what the input will be ? Thanks again !
@@theycallmeozzie hey bro so double deadzone enable will only work if you have a deadzone applied in the Razer app. Personally keeping it off with 0 deadzones applied in Razer app is the best solution, specially how its currently implemented where we have a set amount of output linked to used deadzones in the app.
@@thephototechy appreciate it man ! Also thank you for helping with the sensitivity bug it was driving me insane and I couldn't find a solution anywhere. I'll be frequenting your videos from now on !
I will look forward to watching this in the morning. Still have no idea when the one I ordered weeks ago will turn up. Amazon still says between November and March as a date. I’m really hoping that the date on the Razor website saying this controller releases on the 16th of this month means that Amazon will get and ship then that day. Still haven’t been able to over clock my new Kaleid after the last broke too. Tried doing it a second pc and the t4k app still says “controller not found”.
Hey bro I got it directly from razer's website, Amazon is a bit of hit and miss with new release products. I pre ordered the Thrustmaster hall effect sticks from Amazon, only to be told on the delivery day that it'l arrive some time between December and April.
In Warzone, how do you recommend setting deadzones? For example, should I set it to 1 in the Razer software and 1 in Warzone? Or would it be better to set 0 in Razer and 2 in Warzone? How does that work?
@@marioramos3415 hey bro definitely use 0 in Razer app and only use in game deadzones if the drift is too much at rest. I find HE can feel really awkward with deadzones applied and truly shine with 0 deadzones, at least for me, as I do use a small deadzone on normal sticks but not on HE controllers
Wow great review, just recently got this controller and am loving it. Better than the stealth ultra atleast for me. Wish they had a better pc app though feels so basic and why it isn't part of the razer synap makes no sense.
Hey bro ! I just purchased the v3 tournament and I set my deadzones on the app to 0 and on warzone to 0 aswell. I have a slight drift only because of the play on the sticks. Should I bump it upto 1 or 2 on warzone ? Also, what dead zones do you have on your game ? Thankyou ! 🙏
Hey bro so with HE sticks I personally find 0 works best for me, that slight drift if the centre point is good should actually be a benefit for aim assist. Normal potentiometer sticks without deadzones can feel uncontrollable, at least at my skill level but HE definitely feel great with 0 or the most minimal deadzone you can get away with.
Thanks a lot bro ! Should the double deadzone checkbox be clicked or is it better not to tick the box since I want to play with zero deadzones on app and warzone ? Thankyou 🙏
@@cchhaarriitthh94 Hey I did get a comment from someone saying the double deadzone ticked introduced a delay, with deadzones set to 0 the box is not doing anything in my tests, I'd say keep it ticked off just in case in some scenarios it bugs out and adds a delay.
My comment got deleted 😢 great video, and visual representation of the calculations (standard, circular) have you thought about adding a stick tension section in your videos? Great video as always, I posted a link where Xbox support explains the calculations for elite V2.
Hey bro strange about the comment issue. I'm working on a solution to measure stick tension with a force meter. I do have a motorized solution to push the meter linearly so will be able to get accurate results. Definitely make it my next purchase.
On PC, this controller doesn't get recognized in game. I can navigate the Xbox app and the controller setup app, but once I load a game up I get nothing
suddenly if I understood correctly the double dead zone option that's it if you have 5% dead zone and in the game you also have 5% dead zone if you do not check the double dead zone option it gives you a total of 10% and if you activate it you make 5%
Atm i have gamesir g7 se and black ops 6 is coming so wanna be as competetive as i can , from all controllers you tested is g7 se still the best or this volverine worth upgrade ?most important as less input delay as possible im on xbox series x
I picked up this controller and don't like it. The controller thumbsticks have a horrible outer deadzone and non-linear response curve. The thumbsticks feel like the "Aggressive" response curve on Xbox Elite Series 2 controllers. I cant aim on it compared to a stock Xbox Series X controller. 1. What other (high polling rate, rear mappable buttons, tmr/halleffect sticks) are there with a linear response curve? I'd tried a few controllers and all the thumbstick response curves arent as nice as a stock xbox controller. 2. Do you have any of the data in your videos published anywhere?
Going from 1000hz to 250hz is not worth it performance wise, but if you want the cool features then switching is ok. I personally would've bought it if you could access 1000hz on Xbox
Tried the wireless version of this this last week and really wanted to love it because it’s as close to a perfect controller as I’ve tried. EXCEPT.. something about the contour especially below the trigger area made it too uncomfortable on my middle fingers. It basically forces you to death grip it and if you have bigger hands it just doesn’t work. It’s a shame because I truly think this is the best on the market at this point.
Bro you are describing something very similar to my grip issues with this. Had cramps in my left hand the first day, but holding the controller strongly from the sides has made it tolerable for me.
I slapped on a KontrolFreek grip on both sides and it feels amazing. I have larger hands and was worried about that, because it seems to be a recurring complaint, so I bought them when I got the controller and didn’t give it a chance to pop up. I did have to modify the grip because of the length, which gave me a couple of pieces to add at the back of the trigger housing, making it even more comfortable.
@@O5IR15 That's a great idea and I thought about doing something similar. Even test cut a piece of poron foam to see how it would feel, but was worried about the longevity of it if I glued it down. I feel like there would be a huge market for a grip for this that solves this issue. I am glad you could get it to work.
@@tylerfrench4996 the KontrolFreek grips work perfectly, even almost lining up exactly with the buttons on the rear. I mainly had to trim the length, since they are just a bit stubby compared to the Xbox One controller. That gave me the needed piece on either side for the trigger housing. I would assume KontrolFreek would be quick to jump on making a set specifically for this controller. As long as the demand was there. Given this controller is a serious 9.8/10 (10/10 once you add the grip) I think the extra $15 for the grips and a couple of minutes cutting to fit is more than worth the added cost. Literally everything else about it is perfect, coming from an Elite Series 2 controller, which my original took almost 3 years to developer stick drift, and the Core I replaced it with is perfect out of the box. My only reason for swapping is the much faster response time on Tournament mode (I’m on PC and play wired even though I sprung for the Pro series Razer), and the extra top bumpers, otherwise I would have stayed with the Elite Series 2. I do wish the sticks had adjustable tension built in, but they feel tight enough without that for me to mark it as a complaint.
What is your recommendation on the double deadzone setting? I also only play COD/FPS. Should my settings be 0’s for deadzone and enable the prevent double deadzone setting? This would effective just allow the cod deadzone settings to be the driving factor?
Great video butt i have test this v3 to i not like it the tension are to stiff for me to play with micro aim ...have you all ready try the sh5 modules for the eswap contfollers ?
@@thephototechy hi bro you let us know you opinion about the sh5 i really not happy the s5 modules feel so much better hope you have answer what it is about the new sh5 modules
What’s the difference between this one and the more expensive one? I’m thinking of just biting the bullet and getting the more expensive one if it has a 1000Hz wired option as well.
@@thephototechyso there’s like no point in getting the wireless. Also as someone who really wants 4 back buttons, trigger stops and wants a controller that’s recognized as an Xbox controller so it works better across all games on pc I am thinking of upgrading to this from my Gamesir Kalied. Or should I wait for the G7 pro.
Since I play some games I won't use the back buttons with do you think it's easy to get used to them being there? The elite you can remove the back buttons.
@thephototechy you can make a profile that disables the back buttons and switch to that profile when you play games that you don't use back buttons for. That way even if you did Press it nothing would happen anyway
Hey Techy! Someone found the v3 pro having 150 stick resolution instead the 100 stick resolution in the TE sticks, do you think this is a big deal? Ty.
@@pandoro2003 hey bro yes if the pro has higher resolution then it’ll be a big deal at least for me, as the TE is even lower than a dualsense. Also 150 does sound like a sweet spot, now I’m thinking I need to get it myself 😂. Hoped it’s a linear resolution and not like the fusion 4 where we have very small inserts making the number higher
@@thephototechy I had this already got the TE after your resolution video, my TE improved after calibrations, my PRO feels weird, maybe bad unit, but in the future if razer release calibration for these in the app my PRO can improve.
Hey, I have a quick question. I just recently got this controller and have downloaded the app. I do not, however, have any calibration options within the app. It will also not let me change button bindings within the app. (Im on PC BTW) Also what 3rd party app/website do you use for calibration?
Hey so I'd highly recommend not using any deadzones in the app and that'd mean double deadzone diesn't do nothing. If you have drift at rest then using in game deadzone is a much better option.
Hey @phototechy, I have had the pro wireless, my issue is aiming feels a bit inconsistent with this controller, I have to switch to my g7 se if I want to win my games. Do you encounter inconsistencies with this controller? Mind you I also go wired. I just want this controller to work!
Hey bro you really got me intrigued as what you describe might be the uneven output on your unit, which sounds way worse than mine. Can you please try playing with 0 deadzones in app and double deadzone not checked with standard output. Also recently I made a video about stick resoulition impact and at the end I showed a way you could potentially test your controller, to see if output is equal in all diections. Please try and do that test on HCI website, just to confirm you don't have any wonky output on your sticks. Also do check if you need to updae that early firmware for the pro model which fixed some issue with the drift at 0 deadzones. th-cam.com/video/fkV3QLNQrps/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LPV_KaYqC-qpTGIL
I did the update via computer so yea no drift at 0, my issue is that controller feels weird wen aiming like as if there was delay or lagg idk my g7 just feels responsive. I play console, will this websites fix the problem or just help me confirm that there is a problem?
@@Mrchiefsaygg it'll just show the uneven output, so far I haven't seen a fix for this. A little uneven output is ok like maybe a 5% more or less either side, but a lot could potentially be the reason you feel it being very inconsistent. Now you've mentioned G7 which uses potentiometer sticks that and even the G7se will feel a bit different to this one as the output is different to this one having a bit lower resolution.
I got one and was extremely frustrated with it disconnecting mid game. I replaced the usb cable and all good now. Easily the best controller I’ve owned.
Hey bro, I wanted to give you an update on the Nacon PS5 edition. These are the issues I listed when I returned it to the store: R2 button is broken. X button stops working intermittently. Touchpad stops working intermittently. Unable too switch profiles intermittently. Stick drift on right analog stick. Controller goes into charge mode sometimes when I switch the console on and won’t work. I have to disconnect and reconnect to get it to work. Hopefully I just got a faulty controller and this store replaces it because I don’t want them to try to repair that.
Woah bro those are some serious quality issues, specially for a controller at the Nacon's asking price. I haven't used it much since getting the Edge but they really need to add a manual calibration option for us to be able to adjust the centre point, so we have minimal drift at rest.
@@thephototechy I’ve only had the controller for 8 months so I guess I’m stuck with it. The quality from Nacon this time around is shocking. I went through 2 Nacons in a decade of using the PS4 and I only replaced the my first Nacon because one of the back buttons started having intermittent issues. No stick drift whatsoever on those controllers. If only Sony allowed us to use our older controllers on PS5 versions of games, then I wouldn’t be down $200
Hey bro I love your videos, a question if I may ask; that part double deadzones, so when I play Elden ring which is my single player game of choice when I don't want to play Apex, i notice to move the camera i have to move past a certain threshold would that disable double deadzones work to make the camera feel more like a linear deadzone like in apex ?
Hey bro so that's exactly what I was trying to say that we need a custom output option. SO right now if you have any deadzones applied on the razer app without prevent double ticked, you have the double deadzone happening. Now you can check the prevent deadzone option but it'll only apply to what you've set your deadzones in the app, so setting 1 is like a 3% and increases from there. Now Elden ring might have a 10% minimum applied, if Razer allow us a 10% output with 3% set in the app, that'd be the perfect solution. Right now the best I can think of is keeping them 0 in app or maybe try a slighty higher number like 2-3 with double deadzone ticked for elden ring.
Quick Question: I have a been using Gamesir G7 se and he for most of the last year, I recently tried the Power A fusion 4 since its the first power a I've seen with HE sticks but for some reason no matter how much I tuned and recalibrated I could not get them to feel as responsive as the game sir sticks. so I am wondering how do these feel in comparison to the g7 se/he sticks? added: is it possible the fusion 4 felt off because i have the g7 set to 1000hz?
Hey bro so personally I can use a controller without the 1000hz on Xbox and still be fine, but the G7se in 1000hz is definitely something special. Tye Fusion 4 also gave me issues as well when it comes to aiming, it's something I showed in my full review. This one is different than the Fusion 4 and will give a more responsive feel, it's still not like the Gamesir but very similar style output, just with lower resolution.
Do you think the joysticks will last? I just ordered the v3 but I never had any problems with the previous razer joysticks. I don’t really see the point in them switching to Hall effect but I haven’t used them yet so can’t say.
Can you do a comparison with the TE against the Pro please? I have just seen a comparison between them both and the Pro has a much higher resolution compared with the TE and I like to see this confirmed.
Hey if you can disable the deadzones in the game and using just the ones in Razer app, then keep it off, but you can try it on to see if you prefer that initial quick response. My personal settings are deadzones complete off then double deadzone doesn't do anything so checked off.
@@DA-qv7vf they've used a linear output values algorithm, also we have option for 2 different diagonal values as well, but that HE feel is still there. So truly feel good with linear settings in game and 0 deadzones.
Ordered from Amazon, sent it back the day I got it. Hurt my hands, and I can seriously feel the 250 hz on xbox. I play with gamesir g7 se and it's night and day. Gamesir SE can't be beat
Just a comment as someone who owns and loves a wolverine v3. The Xbox s x I believe is capped at 250hz for controllers so regardless of controller capabilities, the hz will never be above 250. Is this right ? I did some research before getting my v3 which lead to this. Great controller though!
I don't know if this is a feature to raise the analog stick a bit higher, but I can pull my right stick up & it make "click" sound, it goes up few centimeter higher for my V3 tournament edition. After the joystick is raised up I can play normal, no stick drift no nothing...... I even checked Razer website for this & there's nothing about it, I checked TH-cam & there's nothing about it either....is that something Razer left behind?.
hi, friend I'm trying to know something about the gamesir g7 se: Is it normal that it is more difficult for me to control the recoil of weapons in shooting games? I recently acquired the gamesir g7 se and I feel that it is difficult for me to have better aim compared to the normal xbox controller I don't know if it's me or if it's a software problem or because of the type of stick that the gamesir g7 has. I hope you can help me
@@naimnicolasramirezveloz118 hey bro so I felt that too initially where I had to find my on game sensitivity that worked well with HE sticks. I'd recommend using ng 0 deadzones in the Nexus app for sticks and use linear response curve in game with your preferred aim sensitivity, and definitely try to go a bit higher with sensitivity then you are used to on normal sticks, see if that helps
What are you talking about?! I like this controller a lot but the audio is horrible! As long as you use any kind of spatial sound (DTS, Dolby or even the standard) the audio goes about 1/3 of the elite series 2! Even at maximum is way too low and in the only reason why I needed to send it back. If you use uncompressed stereo sound then you will get it to be almost like the elite series 2, but this is a big trade for a more expensive controller.
How do you find aiming with the wolverine compared to other Hall effects controller? I find my g7 better but I want to make my wolverine feel like the g7
I currently have a g7 se with some messed up buttons. Is this controller a good long term controller or should i wait for the g7 pro thats supposed to be talked about soon in January?
Ive had 2 elites 2s and im tired of breaking bumpers. I was debating between this and the turtle beach stealth ultra. I went with the wolverine v3 TE. After a day i like it alot, i hope it holds up
Bro they removed the calibration option in the last update, noooo, after the update my controller have some weird outer deadzones and I can not get full range anymore, so sad.
As someone who watches a lot of controller reviewers you have quickly become one of the best ones. Perfect balance of accessible and thorough
Bro I really appreciate all the support!
I can't believe it. The first review ever, where the reviewer talks about the audio output of a controller.... + latency, hiss, loudness. Instant sub!!!! I had the Pro version and exp the same good stuff with the audio. Problem was the stick drift... I saw your calibration video prior to this one, i think i give the TE Version another chance.
I hope your channel goes big and you won't change the way you do reviews. I like the objective approach with regards to the presentation without any flashy (pseudo-funny) expressions.
Wish you luck.
Hey thanks a lot for the kind words, really appreciate all the support!
I've been watching him for quite awhile now and I don't take anybody elses opinion on controller other than his, I feel like we have a very similar taste in controller and how they should feel and he covers everything i want a reviewer to cover. All everybody else does is covers the buttons and says it's an amazing controller. i find those reviews so pathetic and pretty much just a sponsored post.
I was waiting for your review before pulling the trigger on Razer v3 TE.
This si a great, honest review. Keep it up. At this point you are the only controller reviewer i trust.
Thank you 🙏
Hey bro thanks for all the support!
Once my Elite kicks the bucket definitely picking up this controller. Good review!
Thanks for all the support bro! Hopefully you have a good Elite copy unlike mine which has issues already.
@@thephototechy Mine arrived with the A button sometimes not registering inputs unless pressed harder than usual, only happens when I play with a claw grip so the paddles make up for the issue.
@@XipsiiL bro I have a serious play on sticks which I just can't get used to and the right bumper has a mind of its own at times 😞. If I can get a good unit of the series 2 I'd definitely use it a lot, specially in Xdefiant as that game can somehow feel better with high resolution sticks.
Went through two Elite 2 controllers neither lasted a year - Razer Wolverine V2 or V3 is the way to go
@@thephototechysame here bro, mine has huge play, sometimes over 10% on the left stick which gives really bad drift when releasing, the right also has a lot of play but generally doesn’t drift as badly
Hey great video, I have on my radar the BigBigWon Blitz 2 (TMR version). 2000Hz polling rate, 1000Hz for gyro, and extra shoulder buttons
Oh man I've seen that one, definitely looks great, but I'm on console only currently. Hoping to check all those options soon once I have a gaming pc.
Hands down the best video i've watched regarding this controller. I will be purchasing a returned one and manually callibrating it myself hehe. Thank you.
Great review, appreciate your work. I got a v3 TE last week. For me, it’s the best Xbox controller I’ve ever used (and I’ve tried a lot). The higher stick tension is a big plus, the circular output setting works great in Halo, and I really like this back button layout over the alternatives. Only nitpicks so far: the triggers and back buttons are hard and can get a little uncomfortable in a long session, and I wish the bumpers were more clicky like the triggers and face buttons.
Always great reviews thanks 😊
You are most welcome bro, and accept my thanks for all the support!
Excellent review, thank you. Seriously thinking about upgrading from the Gamesir G7 SE.
Don’t it’s 0 deadzone is terrible gamesir is way better
Don’t the G7 SE/HE is still better and the sticks on the Razer are so stiff 👎🏻 and remember GameSir is soon coming out with a G7 PRO controller with all the same stuff the V3 PRO have + the G7 PRO will have the new TMR sticks 🙌🏻
If you need the extra buttons then definitely, but if you are ok with 2 back buttons on the G7se then I'd say stick with that, unless you actually would like to try that standard output of the V3 TE. the 1000hz on G7se on xbox is definitely something very unique.
My g7 se and he are way worse than my v3 te. Easy to calibrate the v3 te...much better IMO @RealMadrid_BarcaFan
Don’t listen to people saying the g7 se is better, I’ve had 2 that broke because the cable wouldn’t connect or stopped working, everyone wants to sugar coat gamesir and dick ride them, like 50% of their batch are faulty controllers.
7:30 just letting you know, you can adjust the deadzones to 0 on the wolverine chroma. The slider is a bit weird, you have to move it all the way to 4 or 5 then bring it down to 0.
Hey what's your firmware version on chroma? Mine is 1.2.0.0 and the slider only has 1-4 either no 0 option. Also if your chroma can do 0 deadzone it might be able to do manual calibration as well, using the method I showed for the V3 in a separate video, can you confirm this plz.
@@thephototechy sorry I'm actually mistaken, it does only go to 1. For some reason, I was imagining a 0.
The reason why is because I assumed 1 equalled a 0 on the chroma as I find it a lot more responsive than a 1 on the v3 TE. But that is my bad.
@@ALI.x thanks for calling informing bro, I was thinking maybe I have the old batch and there is a new batch out there with V3 firmware on it 😂. What you've just described is the difference of HE vs potentiometer, we really need a proper 0 deadzone on HE in my experience, where as on potentiometer sticks I've used a slight deadzone just to overcome that over sensitive feel. Really appreciate you taking the time and confirming this!
@@thephototechy no problem and yes that is the case, makes sense. Thanks for your understanding!
This is my daily controller now. Latency feels the best on Xbox.
Definitely my 4 back button controller too, for 2 back buttons I'm sticking with G7se and Kaleid, hoping to get the HE stics for Thrustmaster soon, those might change things around for me.
@@thephototechy how many ms of latency?
Is this a good upgrade from the standard series x controller
But will the Wolverine v3 pro have a higher stick resolution?
@@thephototechyso what about the stick drift people have been talking about right out of the box?
I just wanna say i loved this review. Fair and honest, and unlike other reviewers you dont present things that are opinion/preference as fact. Even reading the comments here i see preferences stated as fact. I have a question for you. I have the Gamesir SE and Kaleid. If they have the same sticks why do they feel so different? The Kaleid sticks feel so loose and not precise compared to the SE for me.
Great Review. Just something I’ve noticed, it’s very difficult to find you. Typing “Photo Techy” into the search bar without something like “Gamesir” or other Key words doesn’t show your channel. I’m subbed for while, but usually I search for channels instead of scrolling through the list.
@@flow89-v6j hey bro thanks for mentioning this, definitely will look into this.
One thing Id like to see on this controller is a mute/unmute buttons using left and right dpad and menu buttons. It would make it easier to mute. Im sure it could be implemented in a software patch or on another model.
Oh yes that'd be a useful feature, I do use that on PS5 at times.
good review very detailed and clear
@@hooch8395 thanks for the support bro, much appreciated!
Hey man, first of all, you have the best videos over controllers by far, it’s not even close. I have a question: I currently have the Kaleid and the g7 se, love them both. Unfortunately, something about the build of these controllers just don’t fit my hands, constant cramps in the fingers on my right hand. Would you suggest the Wolverine V3 TE as the next best option? Thanks!
Great review, I really value the aspects you cover and the detail you go into in your videos.
I'm really thinking this is the controller for me for Black Ops 6 but knowing my luck GameSir will release a Pro controller within a month 😅
Bro thanks for all the support! That G7 pro image does make it look great, I do hope they add 2 extra buttons on that.
Hey, great review as usual. How does aiming on this controller feel compared to the Vitrix Gambit? Is one more reaponsive than the other? Do the response curves feel similar?
Hey bro so Gambit does have it's own aim feel that I haven'tfelt in any other controller. Those favorunion sticks definitely feel great and perform very well, but my Gambit has a lot of play time now and it's definitely degraded even after calibrations and that built in deadzone which wasn't much of an issue in the biginning, now seems to be worse feeling, might because of me playing with 0 deadzones all this time. The V3 TE is a vey good HE stick performer but it'll still have that HE feel to it, but it'll allow you to play with a true 0 deadzone which is a plus for sure.
Fantastic review! Thank you for sharing such deep insights about the controller's performance.
This is my first HE thumbstick controller, so I was surprised to see that there is stick drift. Do all HE thumbsticks drift at 0 deadzone? Should I keep trying to recalibrate the sticks?
Besides the slight stick drift, I adore this controller. I wish I never bought my Elite Series 2 and had known this was coming out. I play both MnK and controller on Apex Legends and now have a hall effect (Wooting) keyboard and hall effect Razer Wolverine v3 TE 😆
I think you need to update your controller because they patched that. I read that It was a calibration issue but with the update it should be fixed :)
Hey so with any controller having a true 0 deadzone will show a slight drift depending the play the spring has. This is definitely not game breaking and can actually be beneficial for aim assist. I personally play with 0 deadzones on all my HE controllers as I do find adding a deadzone on HE sticks makes them feel sluggish for me at least. You can check how much register you have at rest and If the centre point is not exactly centre then you might have the drift all on one side which makes it feel like a lot more than it should be. With the V3TE you should have a good centre with no deadzones and minimal drift at rest, depending of in game sensitivity you use.
Hey bro, amazing feeling controller for sure. Only thing I wish they added was a deadzone % slider instead of 5 options because you're only going to be using 0-2. Anything above that is just ridiculous so if we had finer control that would be amazing.
Also I have the same issue as yours. My left inputs are Slightly higher than my right. It's not horrible but I'm very finicky and I can feel those slight things. Hopefully a Software update could fiX it but tbh the mass audience will not even notice those things so nothing will happen 😭🤣
Ah man I ca't believe you have the same as mine. I don't think this can be fixed via firmware, as my Stealth Ultra has this with a lot worse values, and many firmware updates came for that one, even one with aim output change and this is stilll there, as if the sticks on hardware level can't read some values.
Question for yah ? Does it come 250hz straight out the box for Xbox ? Or do you gotta set that yourself ? And I kno you can’t get it to 1000hz on Xbox but can you get 500hz on Xbox? I appreciate the videos man !! Keep up the good work! Happy New years
Afaik only 250. 1000 is only possible on PC.
On Steam eliminating any extra deadzones is very easy❤️
Hey bro I know PC has so many advantages, currently I'm only on consoles, hoping to get a PC soon.
Helloo, first of all thanks for the quality of you're video, I've buy this Wolverine V3 cause of you're review, and just out of box the both LT and RT don't work until I activate the trigger stop :/ Did you have any advice?
I had the exact same issue as you. My hands cramped as well. I also agree with you on the triggers. Its mouse click but they are a longer pull then the Scuff triggers and it felt slow to me. Right now the Scuff is still my favorite, followed by the Gamsir G7 SE. I do feel though if you are a fan of the V2 you will like the V3. Its not a bad controller, just not for me.
Bro now you got me intrigued about the scuf and it's 20% off right, not good timing as I was 💬 ng of buying a force gauge 😂
@@thephototechy The scuff is great. Only thing is it can get stick drift. I normally don't buy an extended warranty but I did on the scuff. I have had mine now for two years and really haven't developed any stick drift so far, but have friends that haven't been so lucky.
I had a lot of issues with razer cables and losing connection mid game which was completely solved by getting a kontrol freek cable. Current goat for me after an adjustment period.
Bought this controller 2 days ago and now the left trigger is not working at all.
if u bind ur paddel to left stick press, can u unbinde the left stick ?
Great video you have a new subscriber, I'm looking for a new Xbox controller that has the lowest delay and hall effect deadzones. As far as I know, only the G7 SE is hitting 1000hz on Xbox right? Also maybe TLR sticks will be superior and I hear the G7 Pro will offer them. But it will it have 1000hz?! This is madness lol
Hey bro thanks for the sub, as I write this reply I'm going through some test results for the wolverine V3 TE on Xbox, where I used the shortcut to enable 1000hz profile. I noticed we can do the shortcut on Xbox and the controller restarts, and when connect to PC afterwards it's in 1000hz already. About to get all the data to see if there's a difference at all. So far the G7se has been the best performing in 1000hz on Xbox in ally tests. But my SE is firmware 6.30, newer ones coming with 6.33 out of box so not sure about those, need to get one to test.
Thank you friend! I hear TLR sticks will be the future beyond hall effect, so I'm sure I can look forward to a comprehensive comparison... even across firmwares?!?! Wow bro you are killing it GGs out there
Great video m8 🤗
It’s an “okay” controller, G7 SE/HE is still better in my opinion and you can get two G7 SE/HE for the same price as one V3 TE and soon the G7 PRO will launch with TMR sticks 🙌🏻
I hate trigger stops, it’s trash, “hair” triggers like on the G7 is way better in my opinion so it’s not just a “you” think, a lot of people don’t like trigger stops.
Are you sure that the g7 pro is coming and with tmr sticks ?
@@maikelstapper4347 Yes I’m sure, Gamesir confirmed this on X and even teased the G7 PRO multiple times 👍🏻
@@BA3YDADDY with tmr sticks hope its little the same shape what tarantule have
@@BA3YDADDY i want to buy a new controller butt then i wait for it for the pro hope its have really tmr sticks
Thanks for sharing bro, I do think the aiming performance of G7se in 1000hz beat this for sure. Mechanical trigger stops can be good, like I have in teh Hex phantom which I did get adjusted to, here on the V3 they feel of better quality but the increased force definitely makes me want to not use them, as I can press the trigger much quicker qithout them engaged.
I appreciate all the great controller videos. I'm looking for a controller recommendation. I currently have the gamesir g7 se and looking to return it and get a different controller. The things I don't like about it are the back buttons aren't paddles and are awkward for me to consistently press. Also the thumbsticks have very little tension. I love everything else about the controller.
Based on this, which controller would you recommend for me? Thanks
really great review style!
which 4+ additional buttons hall effect xbox controller would you recommend?
thanks
Another great review! Is there anyway to get 1000hz on Xbox? I wonder if I put it in tournament mode on my Xbox it would poll higher?
Hey bro so I've tested them both and the controller didn't show better latency when tournament mode was activated on Xbox. Thinking of making a video explaining this in a bit more detail
@ that would be a great video, thanks for the reply
Hey there PhotoTechy, have you ever considered reviewing the GuliKit KK3?
Oh yes bro, but currently only on consoles, once on a pc then there are many controllers I'd like to try for sure.
As far as the smart triggers go, I think you’re just not used to it. It took me a month or two for those to feel natural to me when I got a Scuf Instinct since I’ve been using the regular triggers for most of my life. 2 years later and now I can’t play with anything else, which is why this controller is so appealing to me, especially with the price being so cheap compared to the competition.
Does the default tension feel like a regular xb controller?
i can't believe u where used to press the back buttons with the pinkies! I think you are the only one doing this. It's completely normal to use ring and middle fingers.
Hey bro sorry I don't use the little finger for pressing the back buttons, I meant to describe using them for the grip, where the bottom of the grip gives ome levarage to the little finger. for pressing it's mostly the middle finger and on some I can use the ring finger as well, like the V3 TE.
As someone who really wants 4 rear buttons, smooth thumbtack rings, mouse clicky, and 1000HZ capabilities do you think I should pick this one up or wait for the Gamesir G7 Pro that’s supposedly coming out.
Hey bro I'm not sure if the Gamesir pro will have 4 back buttons, right now we only have the front image. I really hope they make one with 4 back buttons, and hopefully it'll behave like the Kalied where we get a true 1000hz on PC and still can use 500hz on Xbox.
In the 1000hz Mode ("PC") the controller is using an Xbox 360 driver.
Which means :
No extra mapping , no trigger vibrations & no share button.
Very barebones if you want a 1000hz.
Also yes , your pedal mappings WILL WORK in 1000hz .
Hey bro so whatever you'll set in 250hz mode in the app wil still be there in 1000hz mode. Also in 1000hz mode you map the extr buttons on the controller itself without the app, but the app will only work in xbox 250hz mode.
@@thephototechy thank for the reply !
Yes i know , but software like Re-wasd for other mappings would put it back to 250hz
Also the xbox 360 driver disables trigger vibrations & no option to use the xbox / share button .
So you lose alot for the 1000hz .
I ending up using the Xbox series x/s driver in 250hz mode (wired on pc)
@@midboys hey bro thanks for sharing this info, I only game on console so haven't tried any remapping on PC yet. Will pin this so others can find this information 🙏
@@thephototechy cheers ! Great video, awesome cinematography
I’m confused, I see in top comments that you get 1000 hz with Xbox 360 drivers!? Lol sorry can you clarify on this? I own the pro version so maybe I’m out of luck
I’m still not quite understanding the double dead zone feature. In layman’s terms what does having it enabled vs not having it enabled mean. Does having is disabled (unchecked) essentially mean it’s just raw input ? As in whatever I use in game that’s what the input will be ? Thanks again !
@@theycallmeozzie hey bro so double deadzone enable will only work if you have a deadzone applied in the Razer app. Personally keeping it off with 0 deadzones applied in Razer app is the best solution, specially how its currently implemented where we have a set amount of output linked to used deadzones in the app.
@@thephototechy appreciate it man ! Also thank you for helping with the sensitivity bug it was driving me insane and I couldn't find a solution anywhere. I'll be frequenting your videos from now on !
@@theycallmeozziewhat is that bug and how do I address it? My controller is coming Friday
I will look forward to watching this in the morning.
Still have no idea when the one I ordered weeks ago will turn up. Amazon still says between November and March as a date.
I’m really hoping that the date on the Razor website saying this controller releases on the 16th of this month means that Amazon will get and ship then that day.
Still haven’t been able to over clock my new Kaleid after the last broke too. Tried doing it a second pc and the t4k app still says “controller not found”.
Hey bro I got it directly from razer's website, Amazon is a bit of hit and miss with new release products. I pre ordered the Thrustmaster hall effect sticks from Amazon, only to be told on the delivery day that it'l arrive some time between December and April.
Where did you get yours from? Can’t seem to get it in Uk atm.
Hey bro, I did a pre order though Razer's own website. It came from Hong Kong I believe, but there were no extra charges to be paid.
Hey bud I just ordered one from scan computers should be arriving tomorrow
@@Callum_harvey22 great mate! Have you received it??
Is the Hall effect sticks the reason why it has such weird curvature
In Warzone, how do you recommend setting deadzones? For example, should I set it to 1 in the Razer software and 1 in Warzone? Or would it be better to set 0 in Razer and 2 in Warzone? How does that work?
@@marioramos3415 hey bro definitely use 0 in Razer app and only use in game deadzones if the drift is too much at rest. I find HE can feel really awkward with deadzones applied and truly shine with 0 deadzones, at least for me, as I do use a small deadzone on normal sticks but not on HE controllers
@@thephototechy Thanks a lot! To finish this, I wanted to ask if you recommend checking the option to avoid double deadzones? I play Warzone on PC.
I love v2 chroma. Is this an upgrade?
Wow great review, just recently got this controller and am loving it. Better than the stealth ultra atleast for me. Wish they had a better pc app though feels so basic and why it isn't part of the razer synap makes no sense.
Hey bro ! I just purchased the v3 tournament and I set my deadzones on the app to 0 and on warzone to 0 aswell. I have a slight drift only because of the play on the sticks. Should I bump it upto 1 or 2 on warzone ? Also, what dead zones do you have on your game ? Thankyou ! 🙏
Hey bro so with HE sticks I personally find 0 works best for me, that slight drift if the centre point is good should actually be a benefit for aim assist. Normal potentiometer sticks without deadzones can feel uncontrollable, at least at my skill level but HE definitely feel great with 0 or the most minimal deadzone you can get away with.
Thanks a lot bro ! Should the double deadzone checkbox be clicked or is it better not to tick the box since I want to play with zero deadzones on app and warzone ? Thankyou 🙏
@@cchhaarriitthh94 Hey I did get a comment from someone saying the double deadzone ticked introduced a delay, with deadzones set to 0 the box is not doing anything in my tests, I'd say keep it ticked off just in case in some scenarios it bugs out and adds a delay.
My comment got deleted 😢 great video, and visual representation of the calculations (standard, circular) have you thought about adding a stick tension section in your videos?
Great video as always, I posted a link where Xbox support explains the calculations for elite V2.
Hey bro strange about the comment issue. I'm working on a solution to measure stick tension with a force meter. I do have a motorized solution to push the meter linearly so will be able to get accurate results. Definitely make it my next purchase.
@@thephototechy you are the man.
On PC, this controller doesn't get recognized in game. I can navigate the Xbox app and the controller setup app, but once I load a game up I get nothing
suddenly if I understood correctly the double dead zone option that's it if you have 5% dead zone and in the game you also have 5% dead zone if you do not check the double dead zone option it gives you a total of 10% and if you activate it you make 5%
Atm i have gamesir g7 se and black ops 6 is coming so wanna be as competetive as i can , from all controllers you tested is g7 se still the best or this volverine worth upgrade ?most important as less input delay as possible im on xbox series x
Would you say compared to an elite series 2 for Xbox’s it polls higher?
After a week straight of comparing the V3 wired wolverine vs the vader 4 pro, I kept the vader and sent back the razer.
I picked up this controller and don't like it. The controller thumbsticks have a horrible outer deadzone and non-linear response curve. The thumbsticks feel like the "Aggressive" response curve on Xbox Elite Series 2 controllers. I cant aim on it compared to a stock Xbox Series X controller.
1. What other (high polling rate, rear mappable buttons, tmr/halleffect sticks) are there with a linear response curve? I'd tried a few controllers and all the thumbstick response curves arent as nice as a stock xbox controller.
2. Do you have any of the data in your videos published anywhere?
I have the gamsir G7 SE, do you think i should stick with it or upgrade? If so what would you recommend as the best? As i have had my eye on this one
Going from 1000hz to 250hz is not worth it performance wise, but if you want the cool features then switching is ok. I personally would've bought it if you could access 1000hz on Xbox
Tried the wireless version of this this last week and really wanted to love it because it’s as close to a perfect controller as I’ve tried. EXCEPT.. something about the contour especially below the trigger area made it too uncomfortable on my middle fingers. It basically forces you to death grip it and if you have bigger hands it just doesn’t work. It’s a shame because I truly think this is the best on the market at this point.
Bro you are describing something very similar to my grip issues with this. Had cramps in my left hand the first day, but holding the controller strongly from the sides has made it tolerable for me.
I slapped on a KontrolFreek grip on both sides and it feels amazing. I have larger hands and was worried about that, because it seems to be a recurring complaint, so I bought them when I got the controller and didn’t give it a chance to pop up. I did have to modify the grip because of the length, which gave me a couple of pieces to add at the back of the trigger housing, making it even more comfortable.
@@O5IR15 That's a great idea and I thought about doing something similar. Even test cut a piece of poron foam to see how it would feel, but was worried about the longevity of it if I glued it down. I feel like there would be a huge market for a grip for this that solves this issue. I am glad you could get it to work.
@@tylerfrench4996 the KontrolFreek grips work perfectly, even almost lining up exactly with the buttons on the rear. I mainly had to trim the length, since they are just a bit stubby compared to the Xbox One controller. That gave me the needed piece on either side for the trigger housing. I would assume KontrolFreek would be quick to jump on making a set specifically for this controller. As long as the demand was there. Given this controller is a serious 9.8/10 (10/10 once you add the grip) I think the extra $15 for the grips and a couple of minutes cutting to fit is more than worth the added cost. Literally everything else about it is perfect, coming from an Elite Series 2 controller, which my original took almost 3 years to developer stick drift, and the Core I replaced it with is perfect out of the box. My only reason for swapping is the much faster response time on Tournament mode (I’m on PC and play wired even though I sprung for the Pro series Razer), and the extra top bumpers, otherwise I would have stayed with the Elite Series 2. I do wish the sticks had adjustable tension built in, but they feel tight enough without that for me to mark it as a complaint.
What is your recommendation on the double deadzone setting? I also only play COD/FPS. Should my settings be 0’s for deadzone and enable the prevent double deadzone setting? This would effective just allow the cod deadzone settings to be the driving factor?
So can we get a spreadsheet. On best Xbox controllers by aim, latency etc
Great video butt i have test this v3 to i not like it the tension are to stiff for me to play with micro aim ...have you all ready try the sh5 modules for the eswap contfollers ?
Hey bro the SH5 should be arriving soon, had to order from Thrustmaster directly, waiting for them.
@@thephototechy hi bro you let us know you opinion about the sh5 i really not happy the s5 modules feel so much better hope you have answer what it is about the new sh5 modules
@@thephototechy you make a video about the sh5 modules ? for me feel weird compared to the s5 modules
Is it worse material or quality than the more expensive V3 Pro?
The extra top buttons looking very interesting if you get used to it
They're good I wish more controllers had them
What’s the difference between this one and the more expensive one? I’m thinking of just biting the bullet and getting the more expensive one if it has a 1000Hz wired option as well.
Wifi, replaceable thumb caps and a carrying case. For double the price
I think it's just wireless capability, carrying case, extra thumbstick tops and rubber grips. Internals have been advertised as the same.
@@thephototechyso there’s like no point in getting the wireless. Also as someone who really wants 4 back buttons, trigger stops and wants a controller that’s recognized as an Xbox controller so it works better across all games on pc I am thinking of upgrading to this from my Gamesir Kalied. Or should I wait for the G7 pro.
@lizardon7096 the v3 is way better than gamesir
help i calibrated this controler like you showed now my triggers wont work without trigger stops enabled nor will it go back into calibration plz help
Since I play some games I won't use the back buttons with do you think it's easy to get used to them being there? The elite you can remove the back buttons.
Bro these ones are definitely going to be felt under the fingers and you'll need to slightly adjust the grip to not press them
@@thephototechy yeah. I do have much smaller hands so it'll probably be easier for me to adjust but it's a shame these are completely non removable.
@thephototechy you can make a profile that disables the back buttons and switch to that profile when you play games that you don't use back buttons for. That way even if you did Press it nothing would happen anyway
@@iBlueClovr I know you can do that but wouldn't it get annoying if you're always touching them or it gets uncomfortable? that's my concern
Will this controller work with Xbox one? Might be a silly question but can not find out anywhere
It's designed for xbox and PC it works at 1000hz only on windows though
@ thanks dude
Hey Techy! Someone found the v3 pro having 150 stick resolution instead the 100 stick resolution in the TE sticks, do you think this is a big deal? Ty.
@@pandoro2003 hey bro yes if the pro has higher resolution then it’ll be a big deal at least for me, as the TE is even lower than a dualsense. Also 150 does sound like a sweet spot, now I’m thinking I need to get it myself 😂. Hoped it’s a linear resolution and not like the fusion 4 where we have very small inserts making the number higher
@@thephototechy I had this already got the TE after your resolution video, my TE improved after calibrations, my PRO feels weird, maybe bad unit, but in the future if razer release calibration for these in the app my PRO can improve.
Hey, I have a quick question. I just recently got this controller and have downloaded the app. I do not, however, have any calibration options within the app. It will also not let me change button bindings within the app. (Im on PC BTW) Also what 3rd party app/website do you use for calibration?
Not really clear from your vid whether or not to keep double deadzone enabled
Hey so I'd highly recommend not using any deadzones in the app and that'd mean double deadzone diesn't do nothing. If you have drift at rest then using in game deadzone is a much better option.
Hey @phototechy, I have had the pro wireless, my issue is aiming feels a bit inconsistent with this controller, I have to switch to my g7 se if I want to win my games. Do you encounter inconsistencies with this controller? Mind you I also go wired. I just want this controller to work!
Hey bro you really got me intrigued as what you describe might be the uneven output on your unit, which sounds way worse than mine. Can you please try playing with 0 deadzones in app and double deadzone not checked with standard output. Also recently I made a video about stick resoulition impact and at the end I showed a way you could potentially test your controller, to see if output is equal in all diections. Please try and do that test on HCI website, just to confirm you don't have any wonky output on your sticks. Also do check if you need to updae that early firmware for the pro model which fixed some issue with the drift at 0 deadzones.
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I did the update via computer so yea no drift at 0, my issue is that controller feels weird wen aiming like as if there was delay or lagg idk my g7 just feels responsive. I play console, will this websites fix the problem or just help me confirm that there is a problem?
@@Mrchiefsaygg it'll just show the uneven output, so far I haven't seen a fix for this. A little uneven output is ok like maybe a 5% more or less either side, but a lot could potentially be the reason you feel it being very inconsistent. Now you've mentioned G7 which uses potentiometer sticks that and even the G7se will feel a bit different to this one as the output is different to this one having a bit lower resolution.
@@thephototechy I have the g7 se and I wrote to razer asking them if they will update bcs this wolverine can be 1 of the best out there
hi, what's the cheapest ps5 controller with paddles (2 is okay)?
Hey bro I'd say the extreme rate DIY rise remap kits would be the best option.
@@thephototechy I'm aware but I meant a complete controller not just parts.
What is the first game you were playing?
@@jgonzaga23 hey bro mainly testing that n Xdefiant and COD MW3 currently
Oh nice. I might try defiant too.
I got one and was extremely frustrated with it disconnecting mid game. I replaced the usb cable and all good now. Easily the best controller I’ve owned.
Same issue, the USB cable it came with is terrible and disconnects randomly. Fixed it with my own cable 👍
What would you choose between this and g7se/he??
Hey bro, I wanted to give you an update on the Nacon PS5 edition. These are the issues I listed when I returned it to the store:
R2 button is broken.
X button stops working intermittently.
Touchpad stops working intermittently.
Unable too switch profiles intermittently.
Stick drift on right analog stick.
Controller goes into charge mode sometimes when I switch the console on and won’t work. I have to disconnect and reconnect to get it to work.
Hopefully I just got a faulty controller and this store replaces it because I don’t want them to try to repair that.
Woah bro those are some serious quality issues, specially for a controller at the Nacon's asking price. I haven't used it much since getting the Edge but they really need to add a manual calibration option for us to be able to adjust the centre point, so we have minimal drift at rest.
@@thephototechy I’ve only had the controller for 8 months so I guess I’m stuck with it. The quality from Nacon this time around is shocking. I went through 2 Nacons in a decade of using the PS4 and I only replaced the my first Nacon because one of the back buttons started having intermittent issues. No stick drift whatsoever on those controllers. If only Sony allowed us to use our older controllers on PS5 versions of games, then I wouldn’t be down $200
Nacon analog stick verry shit! Ds4 and dualsense better than nacon.
Hey bro I love your videos, a question if I may ask; that part double deadzones, so when I play Elden ring which is my single player game of choice when I don't want to play Apex, i notice to move the camera i have to move past a certain threshold would that disable double deadzones work to make the camera feel more like a linear deadzone like in apex ?
Hey bro so that's exactly what I was trying to say that we need a custom output option. SO right now if you have any deadzones applied on the razer app without prevent double ticked, you have the double deadzone happening. Now you can check the prevent deadzone option but it'll only apply to what you've set your deadzones in the app, so setting 1 is like a 3% and increases from there. Now Elden ring might have a 10% minimum applied, if Razer allow us a 10% output with 3% set in the app, that'd be the perfect solution. Right now the best I can think of is keeping them 0 in app or maybe try a slighty higher number like 2-3 with double deadzone ticked for elden ring.
@@thephototechyThank you so much for your response, to mine and everyone elses comments. Keep up the good work, you're awesome
Had to return. Power a fusion pro 4 is much more comfortable.
Hey bro thanks for sharing. The PowerA design always feels great for sure, specially for people already used to the xbox controller.
Hello, do you know of there will be a playstation edition? :(
Quick Question: I have a been using Gamesir G7 se and he for most of the last year, I recently tried the Power A fusion 4 since its the first power a I've seen with HE sticks but for some reason no matter how much I tuned and recalibrated I could not get them to feel as responsive as the game sir sticks. so I am wondering how do these feel in comparison to the g7 se/he sticks? added: is it possible the fusion 4 felt off because i have the g7 set to 1000hz?
Hey bro so personally I can use a controller without the 1000hz on Xbox and still be fine, but the G7se in 1000hz is definitely something special. Tye Fusion 4 also gave me issues as well when it comes to aiming, it's something I showed in my full review. This one is different than the Fusion 4 and will give a more responsive feel, it's still not like the Gamesir but very similar style output, just with lower resolution.
Do you think the joysticks will last? I just ordered the v3 but I never had any problems with the previous razer joysticks. I don’t really see the point in them switching to Hall effect but I haven’t used them yet so can’t say.
Can you do a comparison with the TE against the Pro please? I have just seen a comparison between them both and the Pro has a much higher resolution compared with the TE and I like to see this confirmed.
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So should we have prevent double deadzone on or off ?
Hey if you can disable the deadzones in the game and using just the ones in Razer app, then keep it off, but you can try it on to see if you prefer that initial quick response. My personal settings are deadzones complete off then double deadzone doesn't do anything so checked off.
Appreciate the review but having only series x for gaming im def waiting until that rate goes up to at least 500hz
how's the sticks, linearly speaking ?
@@DA-qv7vf they've used a linear output values algorithm, also we have option for 2 different diagonal values as well, but that HE feel is still there. So truly feel good with linear settings in game and 0 deadzones.
Ordered from Amazon, sent it back the day I got it. Hurt my hands, and I can seriously feel the 250 hz on xbox. I play with gamesir g7 se and it's night and day. Gamesir SE can't be beat
Just a comment as someone who owns and loves a wolverine v3. The Xbox s x I believe is capped at 250hz for controllers so regardless of controller capabilities, the hz will never be above 250. Is this right ? I did some research before getting my v3 which lead to this. Great controller though!
I don't know if this is a feature to raise the analog stick a bit higher, but I can pull my right stick up & it make "click" sound, it goes up few centimeter higher for my V3 tournament edition. After the joystick is raised up I can play normal, no stick drift no nothing...... I even checked Razer website for this & there's nothing about it, I checked TH-cam & there's nothing about it either....is that something Razer left behind?.
Great video quality
@@iBlueClovr thanks for all the support bro!
hi, friend I'm trying to know something about the gamesir g7 se: Is it normal that it is more difficult for me to control the recoil of weapons in shooting games? I recently acquired the gamesir g7 se and I feel that it is difficult for me to have better aim compared to the normal xbox controller I don't know if it's me or if it's a software problem or because of the type of stick that the gamesir g7 has. I hope you can help me
@@naimnicolasramirezveloz118 hey bro so I felt that too initially where I had to find my on game sensitivity that worked well with HE sticks. I'd recommend using ng 0 deadzones in the Nexus app for sticks and use linear response curve in game with your preferred aim sensitivity, and definitely try to go a bit higher with sensitivity then you are used to on normal sticks, see if that helps
What are you talking about?! I like this controller a lot but the audio is horrible! As long as you use any kind of spatial sound (DTS, Dolby or even the standard) the audio goes about 1/3 of the elite series 2! Even at maximum is way too low and in the only reason why I needed to send it back. If you use uncompressed stereo sound then you will get it to be almost like the elite series 2, but this is a big trade for a more expensive controller.
How do you find aiming with the wolverine compared to other Hall effects controller? I find my g7 better but I want to make my wolverine feel like the g7
I currently have a g7 se with some messed up buttons. Is this controller a good long term controller or should i wait for the g7 pro thats supposed to be talked about soon in January?
does v3 TE's trigger is vibration or not ?
thanks in advance.
Ive had 2 elites 2s and im tired of breaking bumpers. I was debating between this and the turtle beach stealth ultra. I went with the wolverine v3 TE. After a day i like it alot, i hope it holds up
how heavy is it w/o the wire?
do the thumbsticks feel stiff on this controller?
how many grams of force is need to move the sticks
Hey bro working on a way to measure this, currently unable to.
I just ordered the controller how can I know if I have the sensitivity clutch bug?
What is the latency?
I'm a bit lost, does that mean I can't use 1000Hz mode on my Xbox...? Only 250Hz mode, so in my movements I will have latency?
Bro they removed the calibration option in the last update, noooo, after the update my controller have some weird outer deadzones and I can not get full range anymore, so sad.
Any update on this? Kinda sucks