I feel the same way. Have loved cars for 30 years, but nothing about the future excites me. Going to hang on to all of my naturally aspirated 6,'s and 8's forever.
Ha ha ha. Your video has just proven again to me that beauty is the eye of the beholder. I actually found it a very nice-looking car, in the whole silver or broze color scheme. Some background so you can see I consider very familiar with the driving characteristics of sedans. My last cars in chronological order have been a Nissan Sentra 1992 (4 door), a Mercedes Benz 1995 300CE ( 2 door), a Mercedes 2003 E500 ( 4 door) and now I am the proud owner of a Mercedes 2008 CL63. I personally think than the CL63 is just the best looking, 2 door grand tourer GT stop point of the last 30 years. While its younger brother, the S560 coupe is a tour the force technology wise, the gracious styling of the CL was lost. Now, a 540 HP, naturally aspirated beauty has a steep daily gas tax of 16 MPG combine. Two doors have been more than enough for my married without children lifestyle. More to this point later. A car like the Toyota Crown sedan for the US market is an interesting proposition as a daily commuter. I think the sweet spot will be the Limited Trim with the 19 inch wheels. From a practical point of view, I think if Toyota would have step down the wheels to something between 16 to 18 would have make even more sense, if keeping the overall tire diameter. That means taller sidewalls, tires with more meat for the occasional driving in sup par roads. I have no problem with the 38 MPG, that is more than double of what I got. Getting 40+ today requires the use of 1.4 - 1.6 cc turbo charged engines that are just just too punny weak for the overall weight of hybrid cars. It is a well proven battery technology that I certainly don't see requiring any special maintenance. Choosing the the Limited Trim, with no turbos and conservative HP power, an actual spare tire in the trunk, and a truck that can take two large travelling suitcases as well as groceries seams like a nice compromise. Is a great vehicle to wait on the side for the full electrically car market to really mature, especially the charging infrastructure, something that I think is still somewhere down the road in the next 10 years. I think that Toyota has been very clear about what they think is their needs for a world class car, that does not mean necessary a US car, especially in the Asia, Europe and, Latinoamerica. They need something reliable, relative cheap hybrid technology. Full electric is not really something down there, no matter how much Tesla is trying to make you believe it is. Is good they give you the choice if only for a few years, to pick that option. Therefore, I will end by saying I think the target market for this car is a comfortable daily commuter for a family, probably 45 to 70, that will appreciate the easier entry, trouble free maintenance, simple cruising in the highway for the ocassional road trip. In summary, those left behind by this current SUV trend... It just took a sudden change in gas prices to make you remember why the compact car market is still strong everywere else in the world. I will certainly get one if priced in the 40-45k range.
I agree with you. I was excited that the Crown was coming back to North America. However, this isn’t what I expected. It’s a crime to discontinue the Avalon.It’s been a masterpiece since conception.
ESA. Understand the target market for this car. 55+. This market is wary of full EVs. This is a perfect slow walk for those who were buying Avalons. You are the car experts. Tighten up.
Cool, why aren’t they just getting a sienna, Camry, Corolla, Avalon, rav4, highlander, or Prius? What does this do that all of those hybrids don’t? Are they just paying more for less because Toyota thinks the 55+ market is senile? They seem to have some very young looking 55 year olds in their commercials for this.
@@MeynMotorGroup they're not buying those other models because the Crown is replacing the Avalon. Avalon buyers are not interested in mini vans or a tinny Prius. I understand this car isn't as exciting for most people, but for the targeted market,its very exciting. Price point on target. Well done Toyota.
Prius actually had a hatch and was far more useful at almost half the price. If this came out as at least a plug in hybrid I wouldn’t be nearly as upset. Instead it just comes with average MPGs nothing ground breaking. But I apologize my friend for offending your god Toyota.
@@MeynMotorGroup the Avalon never had a hatch and they sold tons. Again, this is replacing the Avalon. BTW, I never owned a Toyota probably never will.
It is mostly for easy of access. After hitting 40 years in this planet ( I am currently 45) you really start to notice some extra effort to get in and out of my MB CL63. I think is a good reason to keep going to the gym instead of falling into the SUV trend when I do not need the extra space 95% of the time.
This guy is anti toyota big time ( This is awd 40mpg 21" wheels sound deadening construction and sound deadening glass JBL 1200 watt amp subs) editor has a pea size Brain. He's not telling you anything He knows nothing. I saw him driving a KEA
Aside from the gaping frontend, the outgoing Avalon looks lightyears better than this. Even the interior of this new Crown is a step down in design. Looking forward to see this Crown crossover sedan travesty to flop so hard Toyota wouldn't have a choice but eradicate this bodystyle from the Crown family and focus on the traditional sedan, estate, and sport crossover models instead 😅
I think the crown has a better interior design than the avalon. It has more of a lexus style interior while the avalon interior just looks like a better version of a camry interior.
@@paladin3116 I find the Crown's interior to be modern but just drab. Only the copper accents break up the sea of gray plastics unlike the Avalon, which had more interesting interior color combinations imo
@@mark_u Also it has a better screen gauge cluster, new infotainment and a pano roof. It will probably have a better quality sound system as well. To bad the MPG rating is trash compared to the avalon hybrid
i don't understand how a 4-cylinder can do 340 HP. $50,000! (yes, i did end up getting that 2022 Lexus ES350, not a penny discount.) the sales tax killed me.
@@MeynMotorGroup thank you. i love cars. my 2009 LEXUS ES350 never broke. 140,000 miles & it never broke. just the usual, new tires, new battery & oil changes. best car i ever had, so i figured i'd better get that 302HP, ES350, before they take it away from us. i grabbed a lower priced 2022 ES350 while i could still do it ....... cash, not a penny discount & i just did it with no regrets. it's my last car i buy. p.s. i love your channel. you're very smart young man.
I actually like the car. I think it looks sleek. I wold go for the XLE… 40 mpg is efficient enough for most and I don’t need supra level performance so I think the horsepower is also sufficient. Not sure what more you want but to each his own 🤷🏽♂️ 30 minutes of negative just makes you look like a ranting hater!
Your negativity on the current car market is justified. Nothing is what it was. It's easy to catch "old man disease" and rail against life itself, but that is a dead end. Focus on the 10% of any area (cars, music, food, etc.) that is good, don't get too bent outta shape by the 90% that is shit. Your commentary is on target and valuable. Thus ends my pep talk. Regarding this fine vehicle before us, the CROWN, yep, a solid chunk of shit. It appears to do many things wrong, even calling back the god-awful styling trend of the "beetle back" sedan thingies from 6-7 years back, like the Honda Accord Crosstour or Mercedes GLE/GLC. Jack 'em up in the air and all of a sudden it's SPORTY-er. Yuck. Approaching Pontiac Aztek levels of design failure. Okay, I exaggerate, but why style something ugly when you can style it non-ugly? Many car fan people end up settling down in some era where they think the car manufacturers last did things right. It happened to me, and that's why I always end up thinking there will never be a car as perfect as my 2007 Lexus LS460L, may it run forever. But I also thought the early '90s Celicas were perfect, or the 3rd gen 4Runners were perfect. The point is, there are always (or have been to this point anyway) pretty good new cars coming out. Keep letting us know what the good ones are, while railing against the 90% shit, and we will keep watching.
The 2018-2022 15th generation Crown sold in Japan (& possibly China) looks wayyyy better than the Crown we’re getting in the U.S. We should’ve gotten an updated version of that bc that look much more elegant & sophisticated
I´m really don´t know what Toyota or the Japanese engineers or designers are thinking, but Kevin i think that this car is build more for the asian market and not for the american or european market. Thank you Kevin.
@@MeynMotorGroup I think that the sale numbers in the US will be very low for this car and unfortunately comes the price very close to the I think better Lexus ES, what i think at the end the better option is.
This isn't the Crown we wanted... not even close. The market for used V8s is probably going to continue for years to come. An LS or Benz E350 wagon is on my radar As always, a straight with no chaser review 👍🏾
whenever I look on it's profile, what always comes to my mind are these: -1999 Subaru Outback sedan (SUS) -2008 Volvos S60 XC -1987 AMC Eagle AWD sedan -1988 VW Golf Country -2009 Honda Accord Crosstour among those......
IDK about the Toyota Crown here for the North American market would sell well . I guess time will tell but I did like the Toyota Avalon for its room/comfort and reliability .
The Avalon was selling as poorly as the Maxima. The design is clever...a hint of crossover height and the look of a liftback. It's just curious why they didn't make it a liftback.
My Main Man (pots and pans)😊 It's just great to see how you have matured and grown on your Channel🐣🐥 Always, love the great reviews and the channel👌 I am like everyone else ▶I still love the Avalon I think the new one is well put together and very nice looking as well You don't get your money's worth anymore everything is just watered down and more money💰 Take Care ▶Peace
A slightly elevated hybrid sedan, ehh I don't know about this one Toyota, and that styling. I don't know why but the black and red color scheme reminds me of Deadpool from marvel, if they made a sedan for him lol
@@MeynMotorGroup it won't be well received up here in Canada at this price point I reserved the chevy blazer ev 1LT for $52000 canadian and 400kms per charge so I'm glad I wasn't in the market for a sedan thanks
I would choose the ES300h over the ES350 since they are both equally as smooth while getting 40 mpg but def I’m choosing ES over the Crown all day long
What does it offer? At least it looks like a sedan in an IMO boring crossover heavy market. It may offer that near-Lexus experience in a bigger car that Avalon used to offer. And it's probably what all the marketing surveys produced that Toyota loves to send out. The Crown is OK and there are variants of it, including a lower sedan, that the US market may or may not see. I'm not as down on cars as you though I'm down that so many people need to buy crossovers. Kia and Hyundai are making exciting looking cars, Toyota still has potential to, Volvo and Polestar are on the verge of a new gen of vehicles and there are EV startups that may stay in business. Toyota and Lexus did show a few cars in their EV preview that seem interesting.
If I look at the comments Alex on autos said. They built this for a specific group of customers and they care about what they think. It's an all around upgrade. If you don't like it then fine. Go buy your Chrysler 300 or Nissan maxima. The list of actual alternatives are so low it's laughable and they're not better cars. They're cheaper but that's about it.
One look at the US sales figures for the Avalon over the past 10 years and it's pretty clear why they dumped it... the question is whether or not the crown is going to sell any better in a market largely dominated by crossovers.
@@SheWanna69MeDoe Maybe it's me but I think the fourth gen Avalon is a tad bit more sportier than the ES350. I know kuz I own one and my father owns the ES350 same year.
I completely disagree. If Toyota had put the same energy into marketing the Avalon it could have gotten the attention it deserves. Also, let's have some expectation management, tge Avalon was the flagship sedan with that type of price tag meaning is was not for everyone to purchase, so reasonable sales goals should have been set for th e market. This flagship switch is not going to make a difference the price tag for a flagship sedan is going to be more than for a Camy and it is not going yo sell any better. You can put lipstick and a dress on a pig, but it is still a pig.
i agree with all U said. venza was noisy, even the top trim. i.want.6 banger pan roof is useless as rarely anyone sits in the rear and can't see while driving.
I was thinking about getting this! I was hoping the platinum has the all black exterior color and the interior has white and black interior color, I hope it’s come to local city!(Greensboro, North Carolina)
I agree that is probably the major practical drawback of this car. I think this one can be very practical with a something between 16 to 18 while keeping the overall profile for a wide sidewall. That will make very appealing for less than perfect roads, that are become more prevalent in the US as they are the norm in lesser developed countries.
@@MeynMotorGroup Definitely think some deserve more love than others. Toyota isn't a famous brand for... exciting people. Is this car objectively better than the Avalon? I think that's the sole mindset they have unfortunately. They rock no boats over at Toyota. Your take on the Tundra I felt was spot on. They had the newest truck to hit the market and despite the styling, which I actually like a lot, it is in typical Toyota fashion, the least interesting/compelling offering on basically every metric. Every brand new Toyota & Lexus rolls off the assembly line already out of date. They're trying in some areas it seems. The GR Corolla is a wildcard for the brand- probably the _only_ vehicle they build that could make me stare for longer than 1.5 seconds in a parking lot. The other one is produced in a BMW factory so that doesn't count lmao. Everything else is a snoozefest. Look at their upcoming EV. YAWN....
Nice interior but several misses on the exterior and under the hood. What happened to the beautiful sequential lights the Avalon has? Who wants a fixed sunroof. Over all a total miss. Toyota should have put this energy into the redesign of the Avalon. This is not going to sell any better. The name is also ridiculous Crown vs Avalon. The latter sounds much more sophisticated. Not to mention getting rid of the V6 engine option. No thanks. I will get the Audi A7 that I said I would treat myself to oneday.
I mean I’m sure this isn’t a bad vehicle my main issue with this car is it doesn’t do anything ground breaking but if someone bought it I’m sure it would serve their needs
Kevin, I agree the Toyota/Lexus brand is getting boring and lack innovation. I now set my eyes on the Korean brand (ie Genesis/Hyundai/Kia) and they are more bold, have more innovations and provide more value for the money. Full disclosure I drove a 2017 Sorento, then switched to top trim Kia Telluride and now I am a proud owner of the Kia Sorento PHEV. All excellent vehicles!
That’s awesome my friend! Congrats on owning those great SUVs. I agree the Korean trio is very exciting right now and many are rooting for them and supporting them. They’re not perfect but at least the strive to be great and do things different
Follow up thought. I see a lot of people bitching about hybrid or EV models, but to be honest, the Toyota hybrid system is more reliable than a number of ICE options. I'm not defending heavy handed government regulations, but sometimes people need to take off their ideological blinders.
That is true Toyotas nickel metal hydride hybrids are proven I just wish they worked on them more to improve their efficiency.. or just adopt the RAV4 prime drivetrain completely
Toyota have totally lost the plot, this isn't a Crown, the Crown was their flagship luxury car, this thing is as ugly as a hat full of arseholes with shitty fuel economy, wake the fuck up Toyota!
@@MeynMotorGroup in my opinion they have money. They eat out everyday, buy a coffee for $8, buy fancy bottle water, get a new iphone every year, travel, rent nice apartments etc.
Yea little payments here and there they think it won’t matter but when they look at their bank balance at the end of the month they have zero. Over 70% of America does not have $1,000 to their name
I don’t think the really like the design but it looks like Toyota is going in the right direction. Those hybrid powertrains suck. I’m assuming they plan on using this platform to go fully EV in the near future and the standard AWD is a huge plus.
Haha exactly my thoughts when I first came across this. In my opinion the crown from even 2012-16 is much much more preferable with an interior that absolutely crushes this bland interior. Saddeni g the way Toyota is going with their luxury lines.
See my thoughts on the Lexus LX600 here: th-cam.com/video/afCCdrMuiJI/w-d-xo.html
I feel the same way. Have loved cars for 30 years, but nothing about the future excites me. Going to hang on to all of my naturally aspirated 6,'s and 8's forever.
Or at least as long as gov lets us
@Cat Jesus I agree, I'm going to drive my 2014 Acura TL, as long as it'll run!
@@stevenwells5069 that Honda V6 . . .
@@MeynMotorGroup 2019 Avalon Limited would not trade it for this crap.
Ha ha ha. Your video has just proven again to me that beauty is the eye of the beholder. I actually found it a very nice-looking car, in the whole silver or broze color scheme.
Some background so you can see I consider very familiar with the driving characteristics of sedans. My last cars in chronological order have been a Nissan Sentra 1992 (4 door), a Mercedes Benz 1995 300CE ( 2 door), a Mercedes 2003 E500 ( 4 door) and now I am the proud owner of a Mercedes 2008 CL63. I personally think than the CL63 is just the best looking, 2 door grand tourer GT stop point of the last 30 years. While its younger brother, the S560 coupe is a tour the force technology wise, the gracious styling of the CL was lost.
Now, a 540 HP, naturally aspirated beauty has a steep daily gas tax of 16 MPG combine. Two doors have been more than enough for my married without children lifestyle. More to this point later.
A car like the Toyota Crown sedan for the US market is an interesting proposition as a daily commuter. I think the sweet spot will be the Limited Trim with the 19 inch wheels. From a practical point of view, I think if Toyota would have step down the wheels to something between 16 to 18 would have make even more sense, if keeping the overall tire diameter. That means taller sidewalls, tires with more meat for the occasional driving in sup par roads.
I have no problem with the 38 MPG, that is more than double of what I got. Getting 40+ today requires the use of 1.4 - 1.6 cc turbo charged engines that are just just too punny weak for the overall weight of hybrid cars. It is a well proven battery technology that I certainly don't see requiring any special maintenance. Choosing the the Limited Trim, with no turbos and conservative HP power, an actual spare tire in the trunk, and a truck that can take two large travelling suitcases as well as groceries seams like a nice compromise. Is a great vehicle to wait on the side for the full electrically car market to really mature, especially the charging infrastructure, something that I think is still somewhere down the road in the next 10 years.
I think that Toyota has been very clear about what they think is their needs for a world class car, that does not mean necessary a US car, especially in the Asia, Europe and, Latinoamerica. They need something reliable, relative cheap hybrid technology. Full electric is not really something down there, no matter how much Tesla is trying to make you believe it is. Is good they give you the choice if only for a few years, to pick that option.
Therefore, I will end by saying I think the target market for this car is a comfortable daily commuter for a family, probably 45 to 70, that will appreciate the easier entry, trouble free maintenance, simple cruising in the highway for the ocassional road trip. In summary, those left behind by this current SUV trend... It just took a sudden change in gas prices to make you remember why the compact car market is still strong everywere else in the world. I will certainly get one if priced in the 40-45k range.
I agree with you. I was excited that the Crown was coming back to North America. However, this isn’t what I expected. It’s a crime to discontinue the Avalon.It’s been a masterpiece since conception.
Yea Avalon was pretty excellent I’m just sad this doesn’t do anything ground breaking compared to what it is replacing
ESA. Understand the target market for this car. 55+. This market is wary of full EVs. This is a perfect slow walk for those who were buying Avalons. You are the car experts. Tighten up.
Cool, why aren’t they just getting a sienna, Camry, Corolla, Avalon, rav4, highlander, or Prius? What does this do that all of those hybrids don’t?
Are they just paying more for less because Toyota thinks the 55+ market is senile? They seem to have some very young looking 55 year olds in their commercials for this.
@@MeynMotorGroup they're not buying those other models because the Crown is replacing the Avalon. Avalon buyers are not interested in mini vans or a tinny Prius. I understand this car isn't as exciting for most people, but for the targeted market,its very exciting. Price point on target. Well done Toyota.
Prius actually had a hatch and was far more useful at almost half the price. If this came out as at least a plug in hybrid I wouldn’t be nearly as upset. Instead it just comes with average MPGs nothing ground breaking. But I apologize my friend for offending your god Toyota.
@@MeynMotorGroup the Avalon never had a hatch and they sold tons. Again, this is replacing the Avalon. BTW, I never owned a Toyota probably never will.
Kevin, Thanks for your honest reviews!!
Thank you Paul for stopping by!
"Why should we be cheerleaders for them, it makes no sense" - dayem.
what's the point of raising the ride height of a sedan?
There is none
Seems a lot of customers are craving the higher ride height.
It is mostly for easy of access. After hitting 40 years in this planet ( I am currently 45) you really start to notice some extra effort to get in and out of my MB CL63. I think is a good reason to keep going to the gym instead of falling into the SUV trend when I do not need the extra space 95% of the time.
See how easily you can get in and out of a cat when you hit 60 or older!
I've been quiet but I'm still out here bro 👌🏾. Def gonna tune into this one when I have time
hey brother, not a problem hope you’ve been well out here
This guy is anti toyota big time ( This is awd 40mpg 21" wheels sound deadening construction and sound deadening glass JBL 1200 watt amp subs) editor has a pea size Brain. He's not telling you anything He knows nothing. I saw him driving a KEA
@@MeynMotorGroup a KEA?!?! how dare you man
It’s cool we can hope for him that one day he gains understanding.
Im so glad i bought 22 avalon limited, just few days ago I've got 50.8mpg between nj and norwalk ct. No,thanks to crown
Aside from the gaping frontend, the outgoing Avalon looks lightyears better than this. Even the interior of this new Crown is a step down in design.
Looking forward to see this Crown crossover sedan travesty to flop so hard Toyota wouldn't have a choice but eradicate this bodystyle from the Crown family and focus on the traditional sedan, estate, and sport crossover models instead 😅
I think the crown has a better interior design than the avalon. It has more of a lexus style interior while the avalon interior just looks like a better version of a camry interior.
@@paladin3116 I find the Crown's interior to be modern but just drab. Only the copper accents break up the sea of gray plastics unlike the Avalon, which had more interesting interior color combinations imo
@@mark_u It may look better in different colors. We've seen it in black so far and black doesn't always show the interior best.
@@mark_u Also it has a better screen gauge cluster, new infotainment and a pano roof. It will probably have a better quality sound system as well. To bad the MPG rating is trash compared to the avalon hybrid
i don't understand how a 4-cylinder can do 340 HP. $50,000! (yes, i did end up getting that 2022 Lexus ES350, not a penny discount.) the sales tax killed me.
You made the right choice with the ES it is such a supreme vehicle
@@MeynMotorGroup thank you. i love cars. my 2009 LEXUS ES350 never broke. 140,000 miles & it never broke. just the usual, new tires, new battery & oil changes. best car i ever had, so i figured i'd better get that 302HP, ES350, before they take it away from us. i grabbed a lower priced 2022 ES350 while i could still do it ....... cash, not a penny discount & i just did it with no regrets. it's my last car i buy. p.s. i love your channel. you're very smart young man.
The 4-cylinder can produce 340 HP bc it’s a hybrid
This is one of the nicest sedans for the price I respectfully disagree
Nice!
The old ones were so cool it's really sad whatever this is
I actually like the car. I think it looks sleek. I wold go for the XLE… 40 mpg is efficient enough for most and I don’t need supra level performance so I think the horsepower is also sufficient. Not sure what more you want but to each his own 🤷🏽♂️ 30 minutes of negative just makes you look like a ranting hater!
Well yea Toyota is banking on people that are compliant with mediocrity. Enjoy it I hope you actually buy it.
@@MeynMotorGroup npcs
Your negativity on the current car market is justified. Nothing is what it was. It's easy to catch "old man disease" and rail against life itself, but that is a dead end. Focus on the 10% of any area (cars, music, food, etc.) that is good, don't get too bent outta shape by the 90% that is shit. Your commentary is on target and valuable. Thus ends my pep talk.
Regarding this fine vehicle before us, the CROWN, yep, a solid chunk of shit. It appears to do many things wrong, even calling back the god-awful styling trend of the "beetle back" sedan thingies from 6-7 years back, like the Honda Accord Crosstour or Mercedes GLE/GLC. Jack 'em up in the air and all of a sudden it's SPORTY-er. Yuck. Approaching Pontiac Aztek levels of design failure. Okay, I exaggerate, but why style something ugly when you can style it non-ugly?
Many car fan people end up settling down in some era where they think the car manufacturers last did things right. It happened to me, and that's why I always end up thinking there will never be a car as perfect as my 2007 Lexus LS460L, may it run forever. But I also thought the early '90s Celicas were perfect, or the 3rd gen 4Runners were perfect.
The point is, there are always (or have been to this point anyway) pretty good new cars coming out. Keep letting us know what the good ones are, while railing against the 90% shit, and we will keep watching.
Yea there’s some good ones out rn, Gov will kill those off real quick tho
The 2018-2022 15th generation Crown sold in Japan (& possibly China) looks wayyyy better than the Crown we’re getting in the U.S. We should’ve gotten an updated version of that bc that look much more elegant & sophisticated
If they are making this, where does Lexus ES position itself?
Lexus ES would be above this and the vehicle you’re better off considering, especially the ES300h
I´m really don´t know what Toyota or the Japanese engineers or designers are thinking, but Kevin i think that this car is build more for the asian market and not for the american or european market. Thank you Kevin.
I have no idea what market is going to appreciate this 😅😂
@@MeynMotorGroup I think that the sale numbers in the US will be very low for this car and unfortunately comes the price very close to the I think better Lexus ES, what i think at the end the better option is.
Yea ES300h is one of the best new cars anyone can buy
@@MeynMotorGroup yes that is true Kevin, the ES is a really good big midsize sedan for a relatively fair price.
This isn't the Crown we wanted... not even close.
The market for used V8s is probably going to continue for years to come. An LS or Benz E350 wagon is on my radar
As always, a straight with no chaser review 👍🏾
Appreciate you my friend 👍 yea this is pretty pathetic doesn’t add anything to our lives
My long term average in mixed driving is 41.7 MPG in my 2019 Corolla.
Exactly that is why this is such a disappointment to me
whenever I look on it's profile, what always comes to my mind are these:
-1999 Subaru Outback sedan (SUS)
-2008 Volvos S60 XC
-1987 AMC Eagle AWD sedan
-1988 VW Golf Country
-2009 Honda Accord Crosstour
among those......
IDK about the Toyota Crown here for the North American market would sell well . I guess time will tell but I did like the Toyota Avalon for its room/comfort and reliability .
I would keep my 1981 Oldsmobile Delta 88 lol over this new Toyota Crown .
The Avalon was selling as poorly as the Maxima. The design is clever...a hint of crossover height and the look of a liftback. It's just curious why they didn't make it a liftback.
they gave the Avalon that awful whale mouth. And no AWD on the V6
Can you find a nice 2003-2005 celica gts with the Trd package and do a review?
My Main Man (pots and pans)😊
It's just great to see how you have matured and grown on your Channel🐣🐥
Always, love the great reviews and the channel👌
I am like everyone else
▶I still love the Avalon
I think the new one is well put together and very nice looking as well
You don't get your money's worth anymore everything is just watered down and more money💰
Take Care ▶Peace
The truth. I love ❤️ it ….
Most don’t. They think they want the truth but they’re really looking to hear a lie since it pleases their ears. Glad you’re not like that
@@MeynMotorGroup you speak for “most”…?
This was actually the first Toyota to sell in the US back in the 50’s I think
last sold around early 1970’s
Ah yes, the medically implanted smart key - could be a reality sooner than we think.
A slightly elevated hybrid sedan, ehh I don't know about this one Toyota, and that styling. I don't know why but the black and red color scheme reminds me of Deadpool from marvel, if they made a sedan for him lol
Lol that’s true does look like a Deadpool car with that color scheme
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video hopefully the crown won't be overly expensive otherwise buyers will go elsewhere
I think it will be 40-50k usd
@@MeynMotorGroup it won't be well received up here in Canada at this price point I reserved the chevy blazer ev 1LT for $52000 canadian and 400kms per charge so I'm glad I wasn't in the market for a sedan thanks
Would you choose a similarly priced used ES350 over the Crown?
Love the comment activity here- you’re going places!
The ES has mark lev sound system but the crown has a better interior design. The ES300h is the real competitor to the crown. ES350 MPG are horrible
I would choose the ES300h over the ES350 since they are both equally as smooth while getting 40 mpg but def I’m choosing ES over the Crown all day long
@@MeynMotorGroup Same. I wish the Es300h didnt have the touchpad and a panoramic roof but i rather have mark lev than anything else
What does it offer? At least it looks like a sedan in an IMO boring crossover heavy market. It may offer that near-Lexus experience in a bigger car that Avalon used to offer. And it's probably what all the marketing surveys produced that Toyota loves to send out. The Crown is OK and there are variants of it, including a lower sedan, that the US market may or may not see.
I'm not as down on cars as you though I'm down that so many people need to buy crossovers. Kia and Hyundai are making exciting looking cars, Toyota still has potential to, Volvo and Polestar are on the verge of a new gen of vehicles and there are EV startups that may stay in business. Toyota and Lexus did show a few cars in their EV preview that seem interesting.
Why is there no Prime? The RAV4 Prime seems to be the best overall verhicle Toyota makes.
Exactly and that’s why I’m disappointed in this
Kevin, I happen to love it and I will be getting one. Very nice video
I don't want it!! I just want V8's!!!
If I look at the comments Alex on autos said. They built this for a specific group of customers and they care about what they think. It's an all around upgrade. If you don't like it then fine. Go buy your Chrysler 300 or Nissan maxima. The list of actual alternatives are so low it's laughable and they're not better cars. They're cheaper but that's about it.
Go buy one
Did exactly that. I don't want a raised sedan. What's the point?
One look at the US sales figures for the Avalon over the past 10 years and it's pretty clear why they dumped it... the question is whether or not the crown is going to sell any better in a market largely dominated by crossovers.
Yea I’m not sure who would be interested in this too weird and doesn’t do anything ground breaking
You could also blame the es 350. There’s no reason why you choose the Avalon over Lexus it’s literally the same car
@@SheWanna69MeDoe Maybe it's me but I think the fourth gen Avalon is a tad bit more sportier than the ES350. I know kuz I own one and my father owns the ES350 same year.
@@weirdtemple1217 an Avalon is also more affordable than the ES.
I completely disagree. If Toyota had put the same energy into marketing the Avalon it could have gotten the attention it deserves. Also, let's have some expectation management, tge Avalon was the flagship sedan with that type of price tag meaning is was not for everyone to purchase, so reasonable sales goals should have been set for th e market. This flagship switch is not going to make a difference the price tag for a flagship sedan is going to be more than for a Camy and it is not going yo sell any better. You can put lipstick and a dress on a pig, but it is still a pig.
i agree with all U said. venza was noisy, even the top trim. i.want.6 banger pan roof is useless as rarely anyone sits in the rear and can't see while driving.
Forced EVs! You will not be allowed to travel freely across the country by 2030
Exactly
I was thinking about getting this! I was hoping the platinum has the all black exterior color and the interior has white and black interior color, I hope it’s come to local city!(Greensboro, North Carolina)
Looks kind of awkward in the high stance . Should be a EV in my opinion. Looking forward to seeing it.
Exactly I thought it was an EV when it first got unveiled
There is an upcoming Toyota/Lexus EV that looks something like this. But better.
ok welcome back
20 " wheels is a contradiction to this model. and plastic fender wells..yuck
I agree that is probably the major practical drawback of this car. I think this one can be very practical with a something between 16 to 18 while keeping the overall profile for a wide sidewall. That will make very appealing for less than perfect roads, that are become more prevalent in the US as they are the norm in lesser developed countries.
Mercedes-Benz GLE Coupe. think snowy areas. Snow can melt off of roof and has ground clearance. Also be good on dirt roads.
Jesus Croist
I did not expect to come here and listen to an ass ripping for Toyota LOL. Get em son.
All major corps suck there’s not a single reason why anyone should idolize or worship these brands
@@MeynMotorGroup Definitely think some deserve more love than others. Toyota isn't a famous brand for... exciting people. Is this car objectively better than the Avalon? I think that's the sole mindset they have unfortunately. They rock no boats over at Toyota. Your take on the Tundra I felt was spot on. They had the newest truck to hit the market and despite the styling, which I actually like a lot, it is in typical Toyota fashion, the least interesting/compelling offering on basically every metric. Every brand new Toyota & Lexus rolls off the assembly line already out of date. They're trying in some areas it seems. The GR Corolla is a wildcard for the brand- probably the _only_ vehicle they build that could make me stare for longer than 1.5 seconds in a parking lot. The other one is produced in a BMW factory so that doesn't count lmao.
Everything else is a snoozefest. Look at their upcoming EV. YAWN....
Good Point!! MPG dropped, should be higher not lower!
Yea my friend I agree
Welcome to the NPC age of JDM! Couldn't even make it a hatchback ffs...
I hope Toyota brings the sport model to N. America
I doubt it America hates sport
This is no flagship vs the Avalon
Avalon limited touring and Camry XLE XSE are way better than this
It just doesn’t do anything well
I Like it overall but I agree with you, mpg sucks big time, why should anyone buy this when Camry goes almost 50 mpg !
Yea my friend that’s the problem doesn’t do anything ground breaking
Nice interior but several misses on the exterior and under the hood. What happened to the beautiful sequential lights the Avalon has? Who wants a fixed sunroof. Over all a total miss. Toyota should have put this energy into the redesign of the Avalon. This is not going to sell any better. The name is also ridiculous Crown vs Avalon. The latter sounds much more sophisticated. Not to mention getting rid of the V6 engine option. No thanks. I will get the Audi A7 that I said I would treat myself to oneday.
I'm torn. If forced, would I choose this car or some generic cuv? That black molding / trim on the side is hideous.
I mean I’m sure this isn’t a bad vehicle my main issue with this car is it doesn’t do anything ground breaking but if someone bought it I’m sure it would serve their needs
Kevin, I agree the Toyota/Lexus brand is getting boring and lack innovation. I now set my eyes on the Korean brand (ie Genesis/Hyundai/Kia) and they are more bold, have more innovations and provide more value for the money. Full disclosure I drove a 2017 Sorento, then switched to top trim Kia Telluride and now I am a proud owner of the Kia Sorento PHEV. All excellent vehicles!
That’s awesome my friend! Congrats on owning those great SUVs. I agree the Korean trio is very exciting right now and many are rooting for them and supporting them. They’re not perfect but at least the strive to be great and do things different
I mean toyotas gr division is doing some great vehicles
No thanks: no HUD, hood prop rather than hood struts, no rear ventilated seats, the rear design is reminiscent of Lucid Air.
I just can’t see this appealing to anyone, I think maybe one or 2 people defended this car rest are just disgusted by it
Soo much better than the Avy
All hail algorhythm 🙌🏻 😂
Damn my land yacht impala gets 28-30mpg highway lol
This was combined but yea still not that great for a Hybrid
@@MeynMotorGroup Got it. Mine gets 24 combined so yeah that's pretty bad for a hybrid to only get 6 more.
I want one, I’m not an SUV person. I won’t buy one.
Follow up thought. I see a lot of people bitching about hybrid or EV models, but to be honest, the Toyota hybrid system is more reliable than a number of ICE options.
I'm not defending heavy handed government regulations, but sometimes people need to take off their ideological blinders.
That is true Toyotas nickel metal hydride hybrids are proven I just wish they worked on them more to improve their efficiency.. or just adopt the RAV4 prime drivetrain completely
I like the crown
Toyota have totally lost the plot, this isn't a Crown, the Crown was their flagship luxury car, this thing is as ugly as a hat full of arseholes with shitty fuel economy, wake the fuck up Toyota!
Facts, facts, nothing but facts.
Toyota really ruined the crown idk if the sedan version will ever grow on me bc it looks like a cross between a mirai and bz4x
Exactly they have the BZ4X now as an EV offering this is just weird with no purpose that’s my problem with it
Who buys avalons? Older people, this car is just going to push them more to lexus.
Well everything is bought by old people because kids have no money and never will at this rate
@@MeynMotorGroup in my opinion they have money. They eat out everyday, buy a coffee for $8, buy fancy bottle water, get a new iphone every year, travel, rent nice apartments etc.
Yea little payments here and there they think it won’t matter but when they look at their bank balance at the end of the month they have zero.
Over 70% of America does not have $1,000 to their name
at least make it a hatchback or wagon... It's just a stupid design ... every car gets a lifted variant that gets bad fuel economy due to the lift
I see some kia k5 here.
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Why would they do this to the Avalon 😥 I understand they tryna get on the hybrid/ev gang but that frontend makes me wanna call this the toyota clown 🤡
They should have made this a plug in hybrid
@@MeynMotorGroup absolutely
Avalon hasn't been selling well for the last couple of years.
I don’t think the really like the design but it looks like Toyota is going in the right direction. Those hybrid powertrains suck. I’m assuming they plan on using this platform to go fully EV in the near future and the standard AWD is a huge plus.
Yea I hope they at least introduce a full EV of this soon
its a new model .
but far from a crown NOT A CROWN
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This looks one segment below the outgoing Crown sedan in Asia. This isn’t a Crown, it’s 💩
Yup
looks stupid. I wish the Avalon had AWD with the V6
It’s just a wanna be Tesla that looks like a K5.
But the problem is it’s not even an EV just a regular 38mpg car
@@MeynMotorGroup ya bro but it’s a hybrid I guess so I think a lot of people still think that’s the “best of both worlds” as they say.
😁 that’s a fact many would probably say that
Getting rid of the Avalon for this!!!🤢🤮
I like the Avalons. I won’t buy this.
That's ugly af...
Yup
Yo bro
Hey brother happy Wednesday thanks for dropping in
@@MeynMotorGroup Happy Wednesday thanx bro and no problem 🤝😎
Haha exactly my thoughts when I first came across this. In my opinion the crown from even 2012-16 is much much more preferable with an interior that absolutely crushes this bland interior. Saddeni g the way Toyota is going with their luxury lines.