China's New Sodium Battery Has Elon Musk Crapping in His Pants
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- China's New Sodium Battery Has Elon Musk Crapping in His Pants
With electric vehicles gaining popularity by the day, the demand for crucial battery ingredients like cobalt has skyrocketed. This surge has sparked a quest among car and battery makers to find alternatives to the current top dogs: nickel-cobalt-aluminum, nickel-cobalt-manganese, and lithium-iron phosphate batteries. We're on the hunt for something better, cheaper, lighter, and more efficient.
In today's video we look at China's New Sodium Battery Has Elon Musk Crapping in His Pants
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If I had a dollar for every time I heard about a new battery tech that would crush Tesla, that never happened
China has already put the battery in cherry Ev it didn't looked real 10 months ago
Will sodium batteries take off? "Na"
Typically, White man’s response when they can’t compete! LOSER TALK !
It’s in your genes
And if they do…watch that blood pressure
They should be the standard for home systems.
There are reports Tesla may be using the batteries in there Chinese made cars.
Sodium ion batteries have been around since the 1970's.
They hold x5 more power than Lithium ion batteries.
Plus they last x3 longer.
Can't we just chicken wire the whole country and have bumper cars?
Those who watched Tesla battery day presentation 2 years ago will know that Tesla is developing sodium battery tech of their own, but due to the fact that sodium batteries will not reach the density of around 300kw/kg that 4680 cells can reach, sodium cells will only appear in budget vehicles, much like how Tesla is buying LiFePo4 batteries from BYD. It’s highly unlikely that Tesla or Elon is somehow scared because someone else got there sooner.
"Elon is scared...". Are you 12 ? Nobody cares mate. All we want is cheap and good evs. Evs using this tech will be on the road in 3 months. This is all good for the consumer, ie, us.
& perhaps Powerwall batteries
No they are not, they just use Chinese technology into their car since Tesla is owned by china with highest shareholder which is not disclosed to the public. Elon Musk is just the middle man outsourcing Chinese tech into US with US government approval in relation to trade deficit signed with China. Spacex is also Chinese government backed.
@@nordic5490 He doesn't need to be scared since he has been fooling us that he's a genius when when many debunker discover he was getting Chinese high tech to US. Tesla, Spacex, Starlink, nurolink and boring company are all Chinese outsource tech and not to mention Solar City.
The Chinese are also behind US High speed rail and new generation nuclear plant.
The thing is, salt is a byproduct of desalination. You get drinkable water plus salt from brine to produce batteries. You can also build batteries from salt brine as well. It's a win win.
I am hoping for some home energy storage solutions that have good value.
great game-changing development... much less pollution...
No, he's not.
Sodium ion batteries have been around since the 1970's.
They hold x5 more power than Lithium ion batteries.
Plus they last x3 longer.
No matter sodium or lithium both belong to unstable element both contact with air is fired by itself, sodium also it easy to corrosion.
That is just silly. If the Na battery proves to be a winner, Elon will simply adopt it (and probably improve it). The real place for the Na battery is in powering grid storage and home batteries. This will free up a huge amount of Li. For instance, the Li in the Hornsdale 180mWh battery would be enough for 3000 60kWh EVs.
One of these unreliable presentations that starts with bold declarations and continues with series of questions and promises for a better future
Electric cars are good for Norway and maybe other countries with a lot of Hydro electric power beside making misfortune young children in Kongo more miserable
these should be on ebikes, where packaging isn't a problem but cost is. Swapping the 15kg battery found on a Surron for a 20~25kg of the CATL sodium hybrid isn't that big of a deal.
Na Water batteries will be for the grid, Na for the home, and Na solid state for cars will be more likely over all, but yea :D
salt battery?😂🤣 Elon will laugh out loud 📢
This is só exciting,thank you China.
Scary would be a mini thorium reactor to power your car
Hmmmm maybe 100 yrs from now?
Maybe they will be flying cars.
Amazing. These sodium ion batteries have "capacities"
History: "a teller of when someone doesn't believe in their own conceptual design that has an established business is a venture collaboration between companies. "
The low density sodium battery is the opposite of lithium. Sodium batteries are twice as large as a lithium battery.
Actually they are smaller.
Canada sells them.
3:38 This footage was made in Russia , long time. In the scene an old and poorly maintained GAZ involved in and accident . It carried lpg tanks that coughs fire from the car and stayed exploding as they were not equipped with PRV (pressure relief valve).
If the author permits such HYPE, I wouldn’t suggest to consider any of his word .
Not worried and neither should Elon battery powered EV's are not our solution they are a polluter as well .
Fuel powered vehicles are still way better . Big Gov. just wants everyone to convert so they can pollute more and
get credits .
Tesla are approached regularly by battery manufacturers wanting to sell batteries - this is a non story.
I just hope they will update batteries for current EVs.
There’s more to an EV than its battery.
From Terence Wise in UK..........What happened to Graphite batteries talked about in UK years ago?.
Sodium Batteries sound better then lithium batteries! The best Part is that they dont lose power in cold weather .
CARBON is our Friend.......DON’T be CONNED.....
So sodium batteries are heavier and have lower capacity, surely that’s a Backwood step?
160 kWh/kg ? You must have meant 160 Wh/kg
Are these the same batteries that are bursting into flames and sinking container ships in the ocean ? (from China)
Phooey! Troy Reed's magnetic motor!
Sounds good as far as we know but there is still the issue of trying to generate "green" electricity and the issue of infrastructure.
The sun and nuclear. For billions of suburban people, solar panels on your roof.
@@kpcart Apparently it takes 10 yrs to build a nuclear power plant and apparently that is too long. And solar panels don't produce enough electricity, so both are out.
@@trojanhman8136 modular scalar mini nuclear looks like the direction nuclear power is going. much faster, cheaper and uniform to implement safely in many more locations.
@@brianm840 Why not water?
"To match the energy density of Lithium Ion batteries, we're gonna need a few more sodium ion batteries in the mix" = Elon Musk not crapping his pants.
Chinese cars cost the same as America's golf carts😂
These should be on ebikes, where packaging isn't a problem but cost is. Swapping the 15kg battery found on a Surron for a 20~25kg of the CATL sodium hybrid isn't that big of a deal.
Depending on the price reduction they may end up seriously competing with the cheapest hondas.
Haven't seen one working in the wild yet. Hopefully any day now. Na.
A GREAT IDEA NOW AT LEAST DRIVERS WON'T BE SET ON FIRE IN THEIR CARS BY CHEAP DEFECTIVE BATTERIES.
Contradictory article, multi layer lies and half truths. Well Done!
I’m sure Elon’s not salty about it.
Na batteries with enough capacity for >300 mile range might break open the BEV market. Even if they aren’t used for BEV for stationary installations they would be a killer solution.
Don't make to many sodium batteries because it could use the salt up or cause something to happen to the salt if you don't have the safety evidence.
We lilly have salt beds xD I wouldnt worry about that.
I just need a small 52v 10Ah for $50 that lasts 10 years.
Last I knew sodium batteries only work at high temperature, so the battery pack probably needs to be pre-heated before you turn on the EV car.
That isn’t true anymore different technology.
Correct for back in the 1970's.
But technology has come a long way in the last 50yrs.
LOL, no
Nickel is cheap, you can buy it in indonesia
160wh/kg means they are heavy. They are not suitable for longer range vehicles.
Wait and find out before jumping to conclusions.
@@SalManila1 I could be wrong. At 4 minutes were are told that the batteries deliver an energy density of 160 kWh a kg, which is either nonsense or astonishing. Assuming that they mean 160 wh/kg, that's about 2/3 of the energy density of lithium batteries you can currently buy. It is vastly less than the density of the new CATL batteries or the batteries Mercedes has announced for its next generation of cars.
LOL seriously? It's made in china, no one is crapping their pants over this.
Good but when will these batteries be installed in evs?
They're already in EV's, and have been for several weeks.
Could be, might be,. Let us know when they are producing them in big numbers.
Deuterium polysilicon graphene canine feces is the next battery.
This technology has been around for a long time. Sodium ions batteries take longer to charge and store less energy. They will have some nich markets where the heavier weight won't make a difference, but the far cheaper price than lithium ion will make a big difference. Things like home backup batteries, off grid living, and grid stabilization. None of these has Elon "crapping his pants."
Valuable technology, yes. The better solution needed for an energy revolution, no.
even if this were true (it's not), Tesla would just out-execute everyone on the new tech too.
Still better off with fossile fuel vehicles! If any engine says super high mpg is not achievable I can do it and make them eat their words.
Well, Sodium is MUCH more reactive than Lithium - both are 'Alkali Metals'. If Lithium fires are hard to put out, Sodium is a LOT worse (Think Explosions if water is used to extinguish)
elon himself is trying to find a way to get away from Lithium and cobalt working with Panasonic
Doesn't have same quality for its cheeper but not longer.
Either for global preservation it's ok
This is good but I think with some more time greater things will happen.
Light, fast charging (5 minutes), cheaper and safer. Maybe soon 🤞
There is a time ,peopells arguing abaut talking face to face on phone no it is imposible lol
Japanese hydrogen vehicles are going to be one of the top selling in the World.
Again, there's no infrastructure to charge them. And they're probably never will be period and also, what do you do about all the people that live in apartments?
We need cheap battery storage for home right now. What they are offering is good enough for home use right now. What is now being introduced will find little use in EV's in the US due to low power density. Where can they be purchased for home use?
China
He already has the sodium battery
China _has been allowed_ to corner the market on essential elements required for the future of power. One has to ask the question, why?
Giant factory = China
Sodium-ion battery:
Charging - 15 minutes. 2500 times
Range - 120 km, 240 km..
bye nickle 😂
The one and only reason why the rich invested in Lithium is because it has a cool name.
For no other practical reason.
What they didn't realise it is a Finite element.
By the year 2027 all 4 lithium mines will be empty.
ये भारत बना रहा था । मुझे लगता है इन्होंने भारत से चोरी की है
Blade Battery...???
Sodium batteries will be the batteries in electric city cars, maybe not in the high-performance cars, at least not in the nearest future. That is atleas what I belive :-)
The problem is I totally get Na for home and grid - but for EVs they still have a while to go. There are a few key technology that with boost both Na and Li coming such as using sulfur instead of active carbon that will helps with cost, weight, and allows more power storage. Yet, they need to hit around the 300 mark of LPF can hit other wise, it will be hard for them to start replacing Li as the only type of battery. If anything, what I predict is a hybrid Li and Na battery for the EV market. This way they can reduce the cost, but have a battery that is design around both benfits they bring to the table. Once Na can hit around that 300 mark - that will be when they will replace the hybrid battery.
Idiot environmentalism equation: Sustainable = $$$$
The recent news was that humankind has shifted the Earth's axis as a consequence of pumping lots of groundwater. Sodium seems to be the future of battery storage. Wonder if we can remove enough of the sodium from our ocean's salt water over time to cause further effects?
Jesus christ do you really believe that ?
@@benderozo Aren't you watching the news. Or do you just not believe it?
There’s some misplaced medication here.
Hi g.g.g.. The earth's axis has not been shifted by the pumping of groundwater, this is alarmist misinformation. Neither will removing sodium have any effect. As a logical comparison, consider that twice a day the tides shift trillions of tons of water about with no affect on the axis. Every spring icebergs the size of small continents break off from Antarctica's ice-sheet and float away from the axis of rotation into the southern ocean. Despite the principle of "conservation of angular momentum", no effects on the earth's rotation are discernable.
Sorry g.g.g., you have been deceived by the well used publicity principle whereby news sources dramatize the story by using an exciting (but grossly exaggerated) headline. Click-bait in other words. Read the headline on this video about Elon Musk being in a state of defecatory incontinence due to the sodium battery, and you have the perfect example of this. Take everything in the news with a pinch of salt.
Yes, there is more than enough sodium in the oceans to make any number of batteries. Cheers, P.R.
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Sodium batteries have been around since the 1800s! None of this is new. They had battery powered cars trucks and vans that could get up to 600 miles per charge. They were also used in the first mobile phones in the 1920s and just for good measure the first VIDEO PHONE was invented in 1936. There is no such thing as new technology, it's all rehashed old tech in a new plastic wrapper.
I totally do not believe this
No matter what solution is decided up on there will bre short comings. Hopefully not these are ironed out.
Musk is not worried at all!.. NDB’s are the future!…
If i saved a penny every time i heard someone say that now they have beaten tesla in one way or another, i would be a rich man today. So many have said it and it hasn't happened yet.
Chinese companies and even kia/hyundai are far ahead of Tesla sorry. Just watch the next 2 years of EV car sales.
Na ion batteries 🔋 will be the next revolution on EV batteries 🔋 .Due to environmental friendly safety and material availability. 👌 China 🇨🇳 already have plenty of lithium-ion batteries 🔋will have to scrap these plants due to environmental hazards. Benefits to those who has not started batteries manufacture who have not started manufacturing batteries for EV batteries specifically India
Solid state batteries are supposed to be the next revolution???
Solid state electrolyte still needs lithium.
Graphine battery tech in Australia is the future also... Rio Tinto is pouring in money into the tech.
China is tracing the raw materials all over the world 😉
Lithium ion batteries are NOT know for their power density. That is their major weakness. You need so many batteries, and that weight gets so high, that you need more power to carry them.
Exactly! The energy density of any of these technologies is just awful compared to liquid hydrocarbon fuels. Which is why the supposed "EV Revolution" is already floundering.
Plus there is no EV equivalent of the 1 gallon spare fuel can. The carrying of which is a legal requirement in the UK at least. SO if you run out of charge you are dead without a complex (and expensive) rescue.
Is this true?
Way over hyped. Sodium ion will not solve the major issues with EVs. They are not the much vaunted solution.
There are far better batteries coming in the next few years this is a non-starter.
Probably catch fire spectacularly.
i dont think elon musk cares he be happy if some cracked the tech /
So in summary the new batteries the new battery technology is less likely to catch fire than the ones all EV owners are riding about on now. They do not have the big battery chemistry issues with running in the cold that makes using EVs so problematic in cold climates like Sweden or Canada. And they are promised to be much much cheaper as the raw materials are abundant.
And now the downside. Energy density not as good as the current Lithium batteries, which has awful energy density compared to hydrocarbons!
So you have even more "range anxiety" or even more of the weight of the EV taken up by batteries.
And all this effort made on the assumption that the CO2 from hydrocarbon fuels is in someway affecting the climate. Which is simply not true, a massive hoax.
Until batteries have an energy to weight/volume ratio that equals petrol/diesel AND charging can be done as fast as filling with liquid fuel EVs will only be for the limited use case of people who only stray from home within their charge range. i.e. never go on holidays etc.
Blah, blah, blah...I've been watching these "Musk Is DONE" videos for 2 years now!
China is the father and grandfather of innovation....no country can even compete with China in innovation and wonderful innovations...💪🤘👍
Hmmmm those poor uigarhs
Well I do shop a lot at the Dollar store 😂
And don't forget Tibet
China only steals technology from other innovative sources.
Waste of time
🪐👽🛸⚗️🦉🖖
Sodium is much more reactive. It catches fire more readily. It is heavier. But is it significantly cheaper.
Dont buy Chinese
hopefully it wont randomly combust like lithium has a history of
Come on guys china's reputation when it comes to state of the art i don't think so anything China made brakes in a day or 2
sure sure and the US never invades other countries.... get a grip the 80s wants there quote back
You would want to hope it brakes .
Chinese battery just a joke
Bye bye Tesla. Hello tasty affordable sodium BYD seagull
Hydrogen, please.
Just onther unless technology (industry lies)
Lol. Right. 😂😂😂
Is that why Chinese electric cars are catching fire 🔥 lol
Those fires are in old EV's with 1st/2nd gen batteries using non LFP chemistries & poor BMS algorithms. More than 50% of EV's now use LFP chemistry & all have improved BMS's. Of course, Petrol (fumes) never burns, eh? That's why we're 5:01 all driving Internal Non-combustible Engine vehicles, eh?
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