... This is an SUV, advertised as such by Volvo, it's a big car. Am I going crazy or are all Americans brain broken about cars ? Also "bargain" It's 40.000 €, it is extremely expensive. This channel is giving me Mach 5 levels of cognitive whiplash.
@@sargfowler9603 LFP is safer, but no, you can't charge it without degradation, and ask Tesla Model 3 RWD drivers from Northern Europe how that LFP tolerates cold. "Tolerate" is doing a lot of work in that sentence. Many of us keep our cars outside in the cold when it's -25. You drive that LFP straight to a supercharger and it won't charge at all. Not hard to find videos for that either.
@lp3860 fairer to say it will spend some time dumping power into the motor windings to make heat then push that into the battery so it can start charging, no? At subsequent stops the battery will be warm from driving so should have no delay.
True, degrades at a rate that's about half the rate of ternary Li-ion batteries (should last twice as long). Unlike ternary Li-ion batteries it can be charged to a true 100% each time with very little degradation. This is especially good for those owners who tend to be a bit lazy and allow their EV to sit at a true 100% for long periods (even doing this routinely over weekends will accumulate damage for ternary Li-ion batteries). However, just like ternary Li-ion batteries they don't like to be charged (especially DC Fast charged), below freezing and can be easily damaged by doing so. But all this is for older LFP chemistry, not the new LMFP that's being employed by Ford and Tesla. The older LFP was lucky to achieve an energy density of 190 Wh/kg while LMFP achieves 240 Wh/Kg. The difference being the addition of Manganese. I'm not sure how this affects operational temperature ranges. I'd like to know if Volvo plans to use LMFP vs LFP.
The top version of an EX30 is cheaper than the cheapest Model Y but faster than the performance Model Y. People moaning about the price but it is great value for money considering.
Because it's new. A new, affordable car is one that is within range of the average (or below average) new car buyer, *NOT* the average car buyer. The average car buyer is buying a used car.
That’s because the average punter doesn’t buy brand new cars, they buy used ones. If you’re looking for a cheap EV, try the used market. There’s quite a few bargains available now.
Used Ev's are the way to go for those who are spending their own money. Some nice deals out there. I just bought a 1 year old Kona Electric with only 2,300 miles for 40% less than its price when new. I wonder what the price of this EX30 will be at 1-2 years old? Either way I wouldn't buy it due to the lack of a driver display / HUD. At least it has a rear wiper.
But now you can get a 24mth old Ioniq for half this price with no mileage on it. 38kwh and I got 238miles range yesterday on a single charge. 6.1 miles per kwh.
They've been designing good looking cars for about 20 years consistently now... The only relatively ugly car they've made in recent years was the 1st gen XC90... the rest were quite beautiful.
Hey @fullychargedshow it would be awesome if you displayed metric equivalents of units side-by-side as you display them on-screen. Love the show, best regards a metric system user
I appreciate the sensible remarks about range with which you finished the video, and I wonder: how many of the people, d'ya suppose, who fill social media with comments saying I can't buy ANY of those EVs because I've got a 500-mile daily commute, and there is no electricity of any kind where I go daily, out into the tundra to feed the noble moose, and similar nonsense, are lying? Remember the American muscle cars back in the late 60s and early 70s that got well under 100 miles per tank if you drove them fast, and there was no reason to have one if you weren't going to go fast? Remember about all the complaints about their range? Neither do I, because there were no such complaints, because "range anxiety" is sheer horse****! All those muscle cars got back and forth from LA to Vegas all the time, no problems. Present-day Bugatti get even worse mileage than those muscle cars did, and they need NEW TIRES about as often as a long-range EV needs a charge. It's madness. Smaller batteries, lighter weight... sigh, that would be nice. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled insane world.
Really like the look and idea of this car. The only downside for me is the lack of gauge cluster or display for the speedo in front of the steering wheel. I actually really like those recycled materials around the dash though, much prefer that to the fingerprint-prone black stuff used in many other budget friendly vehicles.
I assumed they'd have a HUD to cover that but it seems not. I have a Toyota Prius with a central display, it has HUD as well but it's not always used, and I don't have a problem with it. I used to have the first generation Citroen Picassos which had a central display and one of the reasons Citroen gave for it was that you don't need to move your eyes as much to see the central display. I didn't think that was right and I wasn't able to measure it but it did feel as if it was correct. It does give more scope on steering wheel design as it won't get in the way of the display. Of more concern is that you seem to need to use the display to alter things like heating and aircon which will involve looking away from the road and focusing on the display.
Exactly this, all its missing is a gauge cluster or a heads up display to be perfect. I would hate to take my eyes off the road to see how fast I am going and I don't know why this has become a trend.
@@clives4501 why live in the past. You could aspire to not being a relic? or just you know, let people enjoy what they want to enjoy without feeling the need to comment on something that will in no way ever affect you.
Mmmm not sure it beats the MG4 at the entry level MG4 £27K EX30 £33.7K MG4 also uses LFP for the entry level version, has more boot space, more rear leg room and has a display in front of the driver (yes I am old fashioned and like to see the speed I am travelling at without looking down and towards the centre console) It's a nice enough looking car, and I am sure the google interface on the display will be much better than a lot of the chinese brands. The interior is good, though those doors look a little spartan, would need to see how comfortable my elbow would be after a long journey. I think I would rather keep the £6.5K and get the MG, but I'm sure others will value the brand and SUV styling enough to pay the extra.
I'm not so sure. MG is now growing so fast that they are looking to build a factory in Europe to meet demand,. I think MG might have broken through the brand snobbery barrier. An if it has done that then Western brand are deep deep poopoo especially in the low to mid end market.
@@DavidKnowles0 True, and provided the Cyberster convertible performs at least half as well as it looks, the MG Brand looks to be well and truly 'on the up'
I think 25k is the magic number. Finance option are available to most people at that rate. I do think the volvo looks good though especially compared to corsa I have seen at the same money with smaller batteries
I will still never be on board with not having a gauge cluster or a HUD in front of me and no buttons for basic things like AC, volume, parking lights etc... This is a stupid trend that needs to end.
Will all be irrelevant when level 4 autonomy is 'solved'. The best part is no part, less parts & complexity will allow these vehicles to be churned out much faster and will remain infinitely updateable via software. Can't remember the last time anyone ever pined for an old physical button phone 📱
Still too pricey for most of us, as entry level goes - but good to be fair. Still looking for an small car, perhaps even smaller, £20k and lower. Thinking UP, MII, Citigo, C1, 108, Aygo, etc.
I don't know if sub-20 is realistic in this day and age but I'd love to see it too. Very interested to see pricing for the Renault 5 when it's unveiled
@@JackScarlett1 Thank you Jack, I have just brought an ICE Fiat 500 for my daughter to learn to drive and hopefully use, plus for me to drive to the station. I just needed an econobox for £100 pm, loads of plastic and basic*. I really wanted an EV but that’s my budget. I hope you are wrong and I remain optimistic that it will come. I will keep watching your commentary, jumping on the videos with small and affordable. Don’t stop pushing for the small, economic end of the market please!! (* live in a rural village so Ami and the Fiat Topolino not suitable) A
That's Why I dislike the Tesla Model 3 and Y EV's putting aside they are very pricey even compared to this EV, They don't have a Driver Binnacle speed display, Which all cars by law had to have since the start of the car making history! The one thing if you look it up that all cars had to have was a drivers speed display in front of him/her on the dash well lit up and clear. No matter the brand or the changes to the cabin designs or other features each year the one thing had to be there was the speed display up in your front road view so you could safely glance down for 2 seconds to see the speed and eyes back up where you had to watch the road! Even the Tesla Model S & X has that display. But then Elon broke the rule and somehow gt away with not having the drivers speed display there in you front view on the dash? How these 2 EV's the 3 & Y can get away with breaking the safety rule all the rest could not really amazes me?
Especially since its sister car the Zeekr X has a nice HUD ... and a gauge cluster ... and a bigger center screen ... and it even slides to turn into a passenger screen. The EX30 exterior plus the X interior would be the perfect subcompact luxury hatch.
@@colincampbell3679 The Model 3 speedo is more in your line of sight than your rear view or side view mirrors. Are those dangerous to use? Or are you one of those drivers that bimbles along oblivious to what's behind you?
We bought one of these in 2020. Boxy, interesting looks, 4.2m long, two battery choices, smallish boot, good range. It’s called a Kia Soul EV and looks like an almost suspiciously close cousin. Very pleased with it.
@@drfisheyeYes, but it's those "112" people who are behind the engineering, design, and development. And just because volvo is a part of geele, doesn't mean geely is a big part of volvo. Did you call volvo and Ford by the same name when Ford owned volvo? My Volvo C30 was designed, engineered and tested in Sweden, but it was still built in Belgium.
I have the Ioniq5 just now. Having owned for nearly two years, it's time for a change, and this is the one that is tempting me. The deals offered by Volvo for pcp or lease, etc, are looking good too.
33 grand in Great British pounds "bargain" and "cheap" are not the words I'm sure people will enjoy paying the depreciation on that on their PCP deals.
@@themomentalist @themomentalist because they have put the word Bargain in the title of the video. But cheap is not there, they say "cheapest" in the intro which is probably true. "Affordable" is also mentioned which is ridiculous.
I still object to the use of the word 'cheap' for a car that costs in excess of £30K new. But we're getting there. One of these days, we'll get to the point where an electric car is in my price range (and I think in the price range of most people I know), which is more like £20K new, perhaps £15K used after three years or so.
BYD are selling a small hatch in the UK for £26k and MG4 have something similar with more range for £27k. Sounds expensive but the average new car price in the UK is a whopping £39k
Order is in for a RWD long range Ultra with the recycled jeans indigo interior- being told it will be with me in the next 3 months- can't wait and happy to report on it when it comes!
A 3rd party company like Bosch needs to make an effective affordable plugin HUD for manufacturers to offer or as a plugin upgrade for any car. The EV6 and Ariya have HUDs and they are great.
Loads of cars have done the same thing over the years, you don't exactly glue your eyes to it, you glance quickly at it every now and then, I hardly ever look at it myself.
@@CATinBOOTS81 Yeah, I drive a Model 3 and it sucks. Fortunately Aliexpress has retrofit displays for sale. Maybe someday they'll have one for the EX30....
Own 2 Volvo C30s, have owned XC70, XC90 in the past, drove a C40 today and was super impressed by drivetrain + design, but surprised by its size relative to our C30s which feel almost go-kart like. The EX30 is the pick of the new product lines for me, keeping a small size and offering lots of practical touches with engineering that seeks simplification. Will very likely be adding it to our business for the short to medium range trips. Nice points regarding product positioning relative to Polestar.
@@AlanTov If you can just tell the car not to speed and the speed-limit mapping is kept uptodate (even OSM is not bad these days for that) then maybe one doesn't actually need to keep staring at the speedo? I'd love it if my car could just keep track of the speed limit instead of me having to spend a significant amount of attention on it. Then we could all spend more time actually looking at the front at what is going on.
@@AlanTovit’s literally still in the eyeline if you glance for a millisecond. It’s less movement than looking in the rear view mirror. People are ridiculously resistant to change.
I've done 2 years research into my own driving needs and all I need is 170 miles and a decent boot size maybe back seat that folds completely flat if I was being picky. Thanks Jack
Geely are absolutely killing it at the moment. And I would happily have the small battery version on my drive. And as my only car too. On the list for my next car.
Why the obsession with inferior battery tech when economical diesel and petrol ICE are so good, economical, practical and so much less expensive? Please explain (all credit to Pauline Hanson for that wording).
@@clives4501 Some people enjoy the rough edges that new technology has. It's not like electric cars have no benefits either. Electricity is everywhere so you can charge anywhere there's a public socket rather than having to go out of your way to drive to a petrol station. Regenerative braking also makes city driving much better. Not to mention in a car with this much acceleration, the instant torque from electric motors is addictive
Volvo is so far beyond the quality of the Model 3 its hilarious. If you need a lil extra space, XC40 is worth looking at. I am waiting for EX60, I think that will convert alot of people to electric.
I'm glad to see that Jack Grealish is getting work while the season is still on break Non sequitur jokes aside Always a good time to have you presenting, Jack
As you said - there could have been more interior space within the same footprint, if only that long-for-no-reason bonnet was shorter and the cabin space extended a bit forward. I bet my old Renault Modus is more roomy, even with it's petrol-engine... The interior design itself though, I prefer much more than in those in the out-going ICE-Volvos.
Let me get this straight an LFP battery can be charged from 0-100% & discharged again time and again. It also can be super charged without much battery degradation. The bigger rage lithium nickel manganese batteries can only be charged to 80% and discharged to 20% before battery degradation and each supercharger use damages them. So how are they the good stuff? Oh and don’t mention battery fires, I’ve not heard of any reports of fires involving LFP batteries and one final point, the latest CATL M3P LFP battery has nearly the same energy density as the other type of batteries anyway 🤷🏼♂️
@@themomentalist Jacks description of the differences in battery chemistry. In virtually every metric except energy density, LFP is the clear winner... but Jack dismissed it in favour of NMC (the only advantage of which is energy density, but LFP is closing that gap too).
@@themomentalist I only said that Jack dismissed LFP and claimed NMC was superior... which it is, in one single metric (energy density - which Jack also said). The rest of the information is fairly widespread... apparently not 'common knowledge', but LFP chemistry has been around so long that patents have just expired. BTW - LFP is also the chemistry used by the BYD 'Blade' battery - the one they test by hammering nails into etc. The 'blade' is more about packaging - it's the LFP chemistry that makes it safe and non-reactive to punctures, etc.
It's so close to perfect it's like they're messing it up on purpose. Tiny bit longer so the back seat isn't cramped. Add the buttons back in and give the driver a display. Then we're golden.
Very clever packaging, but it's not the C30 we want. We love all of the practical storage and quality of life designs, but we just want small cars that aren't necessarily children and parent motivated. They *can* get bigger cars, singles shouldn't *have" to get all of the family stuff tacked on. There aren't ISOFIX points and snack trays on 911s and GT86s, families aren't trying to shove their kids into small cars. It's nice that the EX30 can accommodate, but markets just want small cars for small needs.
Thanks Jack - very interested in hearing how this drives. My current car is the ID.3, and it's a little concerning as to my future with VW when they appear to have had a fright with their EV designs and are doing everything to go in the opposite direction and upwards in price. I liked the mini TED Talk ;) I like the design of the EX30 inside and out, even if it does have the first order stormtrooper look :)
I don't normally write my comments towards car brands. But I have to say this is the car for my everyday use. Bravo Volvo the Swiss makes me all gooey.
I agree Jack, smaller LFP battery is the way forward for mass adoption. Average commute round trip in Australia is 34km, on sealed roads at an average speed of 31 km/h. I’d guess 90% of the average urban vehicles life is used for commuting - why haul around the unnecessary weight of a battery dimensioned for less than 5% of trips ?.
@@iansmith6728 I agree, Model 3 RWD is 7.7km/kWh - the EX30 49kWh is 6.6km/kWh. In Australia, a model 3 RWD is AUD $61.1k, the EX30 49kWh is not available and the MG4 at 6.9km/kWh is AUD $41.6k. EX30 49kWh looks to be about AUD $51.5k based on UK pricing. Might be worth waiting for the Tesla model 2 .
@@4203105 maybe, however I haven’t seen an major BEV manufacturers offering sodium ion only packs. Sodium ion cell cycle life has been much lower than for lithium - if it can be improved to be comparable with lithium then it certainly will have a cost advantage.
I had to look up if they were planning to sell this thing in the US, and was very pleasantly surprised to find that the answer seems to be yes. Kudos to Volvo for doing that! Every other manufacturer seems to run screaming away from the notion that Americans might buy any car that could reasonably described as "small".
my thougts too, when i heard this cars spec, I was hoping, right away, could they come up with a smaller engine later, for an even smaller price ?? Just wonder, it could boost the sale huge
The problem is weight. You can have a powerful motor and have the same range if you use the same power from your acceleration pedal. The motor is not that heavy and there is no point on making it less powerful.
@@locosaint Correct, but my insurance company doesn't like "muscle cars"! many EV's accellerates like a Ferrari, so insurance prices accelerates too... If Volvo makes a 150 hp EX30, they will probably just reduce power on the same engine, to reduce cost
@@HansVestergaard I suspect the single-motor version will be ~200hp (which is probably equivalent to 150hp in an ICE car, given that EVs - and their batteries - are a fair bit heavier)
I would not call this "affordable" at that price point. I'm interested to see the starting price for the Tesla Model 2, figures I've seen so far are $25,000 which is definitely more affordable. But if it comes in at a lower price point to this, it will get all the sales.
Shhh for Jack mentioning tesla is a trigger word. 👍🏻😀 I wish polestar was actually making their own version of this thing. That would be a hoot imo. Volvo won't make it truly fun.
If tesla spent their time on Model 2, instead of the bizarre Cybertruck. But it's an American company, and compact cars are very unamerican. But I guess the China factory will make them.
@@rowaystarco TERAMX is going to build 2,000,000+ of the compact teslas when it's open and ramped up fully by 2025 or 2026. China fked around and denied tesla expansion plans twice now. They may not get anymore of teslas BILLIONS&they deserve it!
The mini China rant is bang on. Our government's lack of climate action across the board is literally in our faces right now. Hottest temps on record, countries literally burning, and China completely dominating the car markets because they got ahead of EV development. What's astonishing is that we still continue to drag our feet here, in Europe, and in the US. It's not like these are worst case predictions, it's literally happening right now. Why the fuck aren't we doing anything?!
I like the look a lot. I appreciate it's smaller but lets face there are loads of bigger options so if its too small for you move on! I was interested to see the Ford Puma EV and the talk was that may come in at around £35k but surely this will be direct competition so will Ford have to react?
Smoke a Lamborghini Diablo from a dead stop at an intersection and then take the kids to soccer practice and stop at the store for some more bananas. Things have gone a little sideways here. Loved the vid. Thx for the content.
Nice to see affordable, practical EVs from the legacy manufacturers - hopefully the EX30 is the first of at-least-several. Personally, I'd still like a tiny two-seat EV that can do motorway speeds and that has a range of 150+ miles as a second car, but I recognise that mine's a niche case. This is a step in a good direction :)
@@myuzu_ It's true. When they start building right-hand drive models and selling them into the UK, I'll likely be in their first thousand customers (they've said they're gonna, it's just not a priority right now and I get it :D Gotta be successful in the US before you can afford to try and break into foreign markets).
This is exactly why self regenerating plug in hybrids (with under 40k lecky range) are best. For the daily drive youd barely ever need petrol, 100% efficient in traffic jams. Still do long journeys. If i had the money, id develop a electic hub with regen access, that bolts on to a cars front or back wheels, (whatever is not attached to the ICE) and connects to a battery with apprix 25kms range. Affordable, easy and eliminates the biggest pollution issue, idling and low speed scenarios.
Quite a while ago, I suspect - my Renault Grand Scénic is 2.08m wide including the mirrors, and it's 18 years old. The 21-year-old Focus parked in front of it is noticeably narrower, though.
@@esaedvik Volvo EX30 dimensions: Width: 1836 mm Width *incl. mirrors* : 2032 mm For completeness, given the original comment and my reply concerning my 2005 Renault Grand Scénic: Width: 1,805 mm Width, with Mirrors: 2087 mm
@@MoltenArmour Another who would seek to silence me for an innocuous comment. Why are so many afraid of opinions which may differ from their own? What has happened to critical thinking and rational debate?
It's al lot of money, but great value. I'm always chocked to find out how much people spend on new cars (I never bought a new car). The average in the Netherlands is more than € 42k, so this Volvo is suddenly relatively cheap.
@@janvanrookhuijzen8309 Would be better value with bigger boot. I asked Volvo if i can fold down the backrest of the passenger seat because in some older Volvo cars you can. Would increase the usability of this small car. But no, you cant. :( So its more like a fun car for me and i dont need one. In the end i will buy a MG4.
@@chags3512 for UK if you own a new car either you have more money than sense or your company pays for it. Regular people dont buy new cars and certainly not for this money. Id say cheap is sub £30k and would still require financial institutions to offer a longer payback period than 3-4yrs.
It's not, but these sorts of videos aren't aimed at the aspiring working class, it seems sadly that they're recorded for the primarily middle class audience who think of a £40k purchase as nothing. Oh to be born into privilege, eh?
Skipping watching this - the title says bargain, the comments say starting from £33k & that you mention "affordable". It's only affordable if you have the means to pay for it. A Koenigsegg is affordable if you have a few million spare. Sadly not many do, and neither do many have £33k lying around collecting dust when there are cheaper alternative means of transport if you just need transport.
If they haven't moved the speedo from the gauge cluster to somewhere very visible, then I think a lot of Volvo drivers will start getting speeding tickets. It rather important to not go over the speed limit, both for safety but also for your own finances.
I understand where you are coming from as that was one of my thoughts when I bought a Tesla nearly four years ago. I also agree with your comment re safety and finances however now very rarely look at the speedo. I go with the flow of traffic or if in front and I exceed the speed limit I get an instant audible warning, repeatedly and very annoying, until I slow down. With one pedal driving slowing down is very quick. Living with an EV is a different mindset to an ICE. Not only with regards to the charging but the whole driving experience. I like this Volvo EX30, we need more smaller cars from manufacturers.
I wasn't interested in getting a new car, and I wasn't interested in looking at an EV, but you made me interested. What a smart little commuting vehicle... maybe running all those errands around town? Compelling.
Current early personal lease ‘deals’ on these are £450 on a 47+9. Not as competitive as I had hoped. And given that Volvo’s subscription service is over £1k for an electric XC40, you’d have to be on glue to go for an EX30 on their subscription.
100% on the range point, for a second or city car that is ample, I have a miNI SE and (touch wood) have not run out on my commutes of 75 miles round trip daily. I love it.
I'd love to see car manufacturers make EV's with CATL gen 2 Sodium Ion batteries. Not quite as good energy density as Lithium, but everything they're made from is in the top 10 most abundant materials on earth, which makes them significantly cheaper. Lithium is $5,000/ton, Sodium is $80/ton, for example. Ora already puts a Sodium Ion battery in the base model Ora Black Cat I believe (don't shoot me if thats wrong, its just something I read somewhere). The higher spec car has LFP.
Well those don't exist yet. They are still on the first generation and those aren't cheaper than LFP yet. Should get there in the second generation and I'm sure at that point CATL won't be able to make them fast enough and every manufacturer will want them in their standard range car. It won't just be cheaper. Apart from the energy density, sodium-ion batteries have better properties than lithium-ion, all around.
One day, when my beloved i3 60ah struggles to cut the mustard, this volvo is looking like its successor to me. There is just something about its happy face and more compact size I like. Plus the realistic effort to manufacture in a more conscious way.
Pretty sure it's closest rival is the MG4, which starts at 26k GBP... same size, pretty much the same range (both short and long-range versions), 7k cheaper than the Volvo.
I love so many things about this design. It is high time we take sustainability and climate change seriously in every major consumer decision. The one deal killer for me is the lack of a central speed display. Safety-critical information needs to be in the central field of vision of the driver.
Liked your mini china rant "TED talk". One might add, it's not just the Europeans and Americans' lack of foresight. the Japanese have been even worse in preparing for the EV transition.
Exactly what I was thinking. Definitely not a car to take five adults for anything more than a two minute spin. My V70 is only just over a foot longer overall, and I can easily push the driver's seat fully back, without causing crush injuries to anyone sat behind me. It will also take 10 foot pipes with the boot closed. This thing seems to be like an inverse Tardis. Big on the outside, tiny inside. Where did they hide all that space? 🤔
Love this car but the backseat is just too damn small. Somehow the ID2 version backseat looks bigger, so interesting to see how that will turn out. But Volvo in general has had pretty small backseat areas in all of their EV's thus far. XC40 isn't exactly roomy either.
I would wish that car makers would remove the middle seat, the result would be a more narrow car wich would improve the areodynamics wich in turn would increase the range while simultaneously make it cheaper.
@@USNEM You can't use your phone whilst driving, as it's not safe. So using a tablet to change things like the temperature etc is just as dangerous, as you have to take your eyes off the road, due to not being able to do it by feel alone... Which you can easily do with physical controls. Not to mention the fact that you have more steps to be able to do simple things as well as you have to tap/swipe etc to find things first too. All around it just makes things less efficient and safe.
Yes, the cheapest Ford Fiesta is now £19,350. Of course you get more for your money but I doubt you will get more than 150,000 miles out of it. And this is a model that is about to be discontinued. I suspect the fact that most cars are financed has contributed to this. People don't look at the capital cost, just the monthly payments. Personally I bought an e-bike instead, I hope to never buy another car.
And it should as a 2024 or 2025 model year ev. The Chinese are behind in average ev charging time, perf and top speeds. Only the Koreans can challenge tesla there. Weird to as China has 480-600kw fast chargers already in service. Plus evs that can dual charge through 2 ports simultaneously. Maybe in another few year's?
@@sebastian.tristan then 150kw is enough in 20 minutes you can theoretically deliver 50kwh, which is 80 percent of the long range verison battery capacity. For passenger cars, there really is no pont in having greater than 350kw chargers. Even if you take the biggest batteries on passenger cars today (excluding us pick up trucks) a 350kw charger can deliver a theoretical 117kwh in 20 minutes. A car that can sustain 150kw for 20 minutes so 50kwh, will gain about 200km or 120mi of range in that time (250wh/km, 400wh/mi). This i think is acceptable for a lot of people. Same practice for 350kw in 20 min is 117kwh. That is 470km or 290mi. 150kw comes out to about 10min of charging for every hour of travelling. And 350 comes down to only 4 min per hour of traveling. Going to let's say 700kw would therfore mean 2 minute charging for every hour of traveling, and i think that you see that you get diminishing returns. Also had a renault zoe for a few years which also charges at 40kw average only stops either to short for a proper meal, or too long for a stretch and a bathroom break. Having an e208 now which does 100kw( 80kw average) gets stops down to 25 minutes, and 25 minutes when not traveling alone pass by usually about in time when a group/family gets ready to go back on a road.
Awaiting the arrival of this beauty in South Africa 👌🔥 Apparently from Jan Feb 2024 first delivery will take place here… I can’t wait to own this as our first EV
'A little bit of cabin space' Let's admit that the back seats are not for adults! 😀I'll keep my diesel XC60 for longer trips and thinking about EX30 as a second city car and short distance trips. I like the car, it's just the price I have to digest it for a while before I jump to an acquisition.
That may be a "baby" for someone as big as Jack; but it is just another expensive SUV. It may not be *as expensive* as other SUVs, but it is still expensive.
Totally agree with having a smaller / 2nd car for school runs, pop to shops etc. We have a Model Y, and would like a 2nd more affordable run around EV. If the price bracket stays close to this, this maybe a good choice, but when the Dolphine comes, this maybe a challenger on price.
Positives: -Recycled materials. They look cool and nice to the touch and shows-off the new age of thinking (we can use it again and again and again...), just seems clever to me. -The TED talk. It embarrases politicians and 'Legacy' car brands. Good. Negatives: -No buttons. I have a 2010 car with radio integrated into the gps tpuchscreen, just the radio and nothing else. It still bugs me. I still want buttons. -The speedometer should still be infront of the driver. I have poor eyesight, don't make me have to look around, please.
100% agree. That was my gripes about this car. I was super stoked about the price, but was immediately turned off by the lack of buttons. Speedo not in front of the driver is also a really stupid trend that needs to die with evs. It's just dangerous not having it right in front of you and buried in a screen that may or may not fail. I'm deciding between this car and the Honda prologue, and I think this video actually sold me on the upcoming Honda.
Jack, while driving a Volvo C40, I noticed the same problem that you and other reviewers have mentioned. My right leg (your left leg) rubs the console and is very uncomfortable. I went to a Junk Yard (a breaker yard) and purchased a used console. I showed it to an automobile upholstery worker and he can reshape the problem area and make it look factory. When it's done I'll post it to the internet and maybe Geely or Volvo will see it and fix the problem at the factory from now on. By the way Sir, another great video from you and your team.
Physical buttons for media + climate panel on the center dash, physical individual buttons/knobs ont the steering wheel, normal speakers/Sound system (as up until this point in every Volvo) as I only see that extra place as "gimmik" in the doors, and this could have been a mega hit for me. Lovely exterior design, good size and price (in the category). Also a bit less performance for less money, in the traffic you cant get 5s accelerations from 0-100 all the time.
When did a £33k starting price become "affordable"?
😂
A new VW Golf starts at £25k nowadays. Sadly, this is what a relatively affordable car looks like in 2023.
Name me a new car that would be cheeper to finance and run than this?
Its the cheepest volvo in their current range
Yes, it’s anything but affordable… and so are all the other cars too. £33k is a lot of money
@@macjiminflation and poor growth. Unfortunately the UK is getting poorer as a country.
I actually like it. We need to stop thinking bigger is better.
We need actual affordable electric vehicles instead of pandering to the middle classes keen to demonstrate their Ecco credentials to the neighbours.
We already knew that. Now the manufacturers gotta wise up.
... This is an SUV, advertised as such by Volvo, it's a big car.
Am I going crazy or are all Americans brain broken about cars ?
Also "bargain" It's 40.000 €, it is extremely expensive.
This channel is giving me Mach 5 levels of cognitive whiplash.
@@cybergornstartrooper2157 middle class? Err sorry only high echelon middle can afford this.
@@Alarios711 This is a small SUV. It is not a big car. And it is very reasonably priced for an EV, especially considering it is a Volvo.
LFP isn’t inferior. It’s just different. It can get charged fully each day and will degrade slower.
Can be charged to 100% with less degradation, tolerates cold weather better and is safer.
@@sargfowler9603 LFP is safer, but no, you can't charge it without degradation, and ask Tesla Model 3 RWD drivers from Northern Europe how that LFP tolerates cold. "Tolerate" is doing a lot of work in that sentence. Many of us keep our cars outside in the cold when it's -25. You drive that LFP straight to a supercharger and it won't charge at all. Not hard to find videos for that either.
@@lp3860 Maybe in Scandinavia -25 is an issue, here in the UK it's a rare event.
@lp3860 fairer to say it will spend some time dumping power into the motor windings to make heat then push that into the battery so it can start charging, no? At subsequent stops the battery will be warm from driving so should have no delay.
True, degrades at a rate that's about half the rate of ternary Li-ion batteries (should last twice as long). Unlike ternary Li-ion batteries it can be charged to a true 100% each time with very little degradation. This is especially good for those owners who tend to be a bit lazy and allow their EV to sit at a true 100% for long periods (even doing this routinely over weekends will accumulate damage for ternary Li-ion batteries). However, just like ternary Li-ion batteries they don't like to be charged (especially DC Fast charged), below freezing and can be easily damaged by doing so. But all this is for older LFP chemistry, not the new LMFP that's being employed by Ford and Tesla. The older LFP was lucky to achieve an energy density of 190 Wh/kg while LMFP achieves 240 Wh/Kg. The difference being the addition of Manganese. I'm not sure how this affects operational temperature ranges. I'd like to know if Volvo plans to use LMFP vs LFP.
The top version of an EX30 is cheaper than the cheapest Model Y but faster than the performance Model Y. People moaning about the price but it is great value for money considering.
Sure - but it's also a far smaller car than the Model Y...
Looks much nicer than a Model Y.
Looks great, and not stupidly priced. Loved your TED talk Jack.
Heading in the right direction but still not what I'd consider "affordable" for the average punter
Because it's new. A new, affordable car is one that is within range of the average (or below average) new car buyer, *NOT* the average car buyer. The average car buyer is buying a used car.
That’s because the average punter doesn’t buy brand new cars, they buy used ones.
If you’re looking for a cheap EV, try the used market. There’s quite a few bargains available now.
Second hand one year old this will be £28k
Used Ev's are the way to go for those who are spending their own money. Some nice deals out there. I just bought a 1 year old Kona Electric with only 2,300 miles for 40% less than its price when new. I wonder what the price of this EX30 will be at 1-2 years old? Either way I wouldn't buy it due to the lack of a driver display / HUD. At least it has a rear wiper.
But now you can get a 24mth old Ioniq for half this price with no mileage on it. 38kwh and I got 238miles range yesterday on a single charge. 6.1 miles per kwh.
Volvo are hitting goals with design at the moment.
I know it's subjective, but I think this is hideous in comparison to other Volvos
Never compare to the 240
They've been designing good looking cars for about 20 years consistently now...
The only relatively ugly car they've made in recent years was the 1st gen XC90... the rest were quite beautiful.
Hey @fullychargedshow it would be awesome if you displayed metric equivalents of units side-by-side as you display them on-screen. Love the show, best regards a metric system user
Most of the world uses the International Standards so please!!!
I appreciate the sensible remarks about range with which you finished the video, and I wonder: how many of the people, d'ya suppose, who fill social media with comments saying I can't buy ANY of those EVs because I've got a 500-mile daily commute, and there is no electricity of any kind where I go daily, out into the tundra to feed the noble moose, and similar nonsense, are lying?
Remember the American muscle cars back in the late 60s and early 70s that got well under 100 miles per tank if you drove them fast, and there was no reason to have one if you weren't going to go fast? Remember about all the complaints about their range? Neither do I, because there were no such complaints, because "range anxiety" is sheer horse****! All those muscle cars got back and forth from LA to Vegas all the time, no problems.
Present-day Bugatti get even worse mileage than those muscle cars did, and they need NEW TIRES about as often as a long-range EV needs a charge. It's madness. Smaller batteries, lighter weight... sigh, that would be nice.
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled insane world.
Very happy with where the industry is going. But still waiting for a 25K decent EV.😊
A 2yr old EX30 should do the trick, so you'll have to wait just a little longer (or a 1yr old MG4 perhaps).
Fingers crossed Renault make good on their targeted price for the 5!
MG4 starts at 26k, and has v.good reviews
The severe depreciation on any EV means you will get one within your budget if you get a 1 or 2 year old EV.
@@fortyfour1654 Is there severe depreciation in EV value as you suggested? Is it not in par with ICE car?
Really like the look and idea of this car. The only downside for me is the lack of gauge cluster or display for the speedo in front of the steering wheel. I actually really like those recycled materials around the dash though, much prefer that to the fingerprint-prone black stuff used in many other budget friendly vehicles.
I assumed they'd have a HUD to cover that but it seems not.
I have a Toyota Prius with a central display, it has HUD as well but it's not always used, and I don't have a problem with it. I used to have the first generation Citroen Picassos which had a central display and one of the reasons Citroen gave for it was that you don't need to move your eyes as much to see the central display. I didn't think that was right and I wasn't able to measure it but it did feel as if it was correct. It does give more scope on steering wheel design as it won't get in the way of the display.
Of more concern is that you seem to need to use the display to alter things like heating and aircon which will involve looking away from the road and focusing on the display.
Exactly this, all its missing is a gauge cluster or a heads up display to be perfect. I would hate to take my eyes off the road to see how fast I am going and I don't know why this has become a trend.
It's cousin Zeekr X looks better. Inside and outside.
@@AudriusN but I'm unlikely to see the Zeekr in New Zealand, at least anytime soon. Volvo already operates here.
Waiting for this one to be our family's first EV.
Why set your sights so low. You could aspire to a much better (in every way) ICE vehicle?
Every way is a lie troll.
@@clives4501 why live in the past. You could aspire to not being a relic? or just you know, let people enjoy what they want to enjoy without feeling the need to comment on something that will in no way ever affect you.
@@clives4501 Imaginge buying a fossil car in 2023. I think you came to the wrong TH-cam channel clives..
@@SoJahSeh91 He probably works for big oil or just really hates Greta Thunberg
I wish it had a proper speedometer behind the wheel.. That's a major letdown.
Only car i know of that doesn't have it lmfaoo, not even heads up display as an option 💀💀💀
How expensive would it be for them to just add in a tiny Speedo like an inch big with 3 digits on it for speed, bad decision I think.
Tons of cars had no speedometer behind the wheel, way before Teslas.
Wasn't a big deal (Renault Espace, Toyota Yaris, some Minis)
That is overrated
Or at least a nice HUD. You just can’t look to your lower left to check for speed and what not. It’s not safe. 😢 What are they (and Tesla) thinking?
Having owned a V50 for over ten years (until I replaced it with a Y) this seems like a worthy successor and a great car.
Mmmm not sure it beats the MG4 at the entry level MG4 £27K EX30 £33.7K
MG4 also uses LFP for the entry level version, has more boot space, more rear leg room and has a display in front of the driver (yes I am old fashioned and like to see the speed I am travelling at without looking down and towards the centre console)
It's a nice enough looking car, and I am sure the google interface on the display will be much better than a lot of the chinese brands. The interior is good, though those doors look a little spartan, would need to see how comfortable my elbow would be after a long journey.
I think I would rather keep the £6.5K and get the MG, but I'm sure others will value the brand and SUV styling enough to pay the extra.
I'm not so sure. MG is now growing so fast that they are looking to build a factory in Europe to meet demand,. I think MG might have broken through the brand snobbery barrier. An if it has done that then Western brand are deep deep poopoo especially in the low to mid end market.
@@DavidKnowles0 True, and provided the Cyberster convertible performs at least half as well as it looks, the MG Brand looks to be well and truly 'on the up'
£31K is getting there. Personally, I'd probably go for a Volvo over an MG at this price point.
Just checked - cheapest is £33,795
Personally I much prefer the look of the MG4 and the MG4 has more space and is better value
I think 25k is the magic number. Finance option are available to most people at that rate. I do think the volvo looks good though especially compared to corsa I have seen at the same money with smaller batteries
I will still never be on board with not having a gauge cluster or a HUD in front of me and no buttons for basic things like AC, volume, parking lights etc... This is a stupid trend that needs to end.
Not my preference either to be honest
Agreed, which is why I would not be interested in it either. We recently bought a 1 year old Kona Electric. Loads of buttons, driver display & a HUD.
Agreed. A showstopper.
Will all be irrelevant when level 4 autonomy is 'solved'. The best part is no part, less parts & complexity will allow these vehicles to be churned out much faster and will remain infinitely updateable via software. Can't remember the last time anyone ever pined for an old physical button phone 📱
I can live without the instrument cluster but no HUD is now a deal breaker for me.
Your channel randomly appeared on my feed. Glad it did, clear and informative, just what I need when entering the world of EVs
Still too pricey for most of us, as entry level goes - but good to be fair. Still looking for an small car, perhaps even smaller, £20k and lower. Thinking UP, MII, Citigo, C1, 108, Aygo, etc.
BYD Seagull is what you should consider. I don't know if or when it comes here.
I don't know if sub-20 is realistic in this day and age but I'd love to see it too. Very interested to see pricing for the Renault 5 when it's unveiled
Volvo largely occupy the same part of the market as BMW, Merc, Audi etc. You're not getting a Peugeot 108 equivalent from them.
@@JackScarlett1 Thank you Jack, I have just brought an ICE Fiat 500 for my daughter to learn to drive and hopefully use, plus for me to drive to the station. I just needed an econobox for £100 pm, loads of plastic and basic*. I really wanted an EV but that’s my budget. I hope you are wrong and I remain optimistic that it will come. I will keep watching your commentary, jumping on the videos with small and affordable. Don’t stop pushing for the small, economic end of the market please!! (* live in a rural village so Ami and the Fiat Topolino not suitable) A
@@alexandertarver5154 Dacia Spring coming to the UK next year - could be just the ticket!
Really wish it had at least a heads up display, if it's not gonna have a gauge cluster.
Or a small bar for speedo, indicators, gear on the steering wheel column.
@@olamarvin Yea that works too, just so you dont have to look to the side to see how fast you are going. lol
That's Why I dislike the Tesla Model 3 and Y EV's putting aside they are very pricey even compared to this EV,
They don't have a Driver Binnacle speed display, Which all cars by law had to have since the start of the car making history!
The one thing if you look it up that all cars had to have was a drivers speed display in front of him/her on the dash well lit up and clear.
No matter the brand or the changes to the cabin designs or other features each year the one thing had to be there was the speed display up in your front road view so you could safely glance down for 2 seconds to see the speed and eyes back up where you had to watch the road!
Even the Tesla Model S & X has that display. But then Elon broke the rule and somehow gt away with not having the drivers speed display there in you front view on the dash?
How these 2 EV's the 3 & Y can get away with breaking the safety rule all the rest could not really amazes me?
Especially since its sister car the Zeekr X has a nice HUD ... and a gauge cluster ... and a bigger center screen ... and it even slides to turn into a passenger screen. The EX30 exterior plus the X interior would be the perfect subcompact luxury hatch.
@@colincampbell3679 The Model 3 speedo is more in your line of sight than your rear view or side view mirrors. Are those dangerous to use? Or are you one of those drivers that bimbles along oblivious to what's behind you?
We bought one of these in 2020. Boxy, interesting looks, 4.2m long, two battery choices, smallish boot, good range. It’s called a Kia Soul EV and looks like an almost suspiciously close cousin. Very pleased with it.
Kia's are fine, but ....
they're no Volvo....
@@nc3826 This Volvo is a Chinese car with a European batch slapped on it, running American software.
'112 Volvo Group Engineering jobs in Gothenburg, Vastra.....'
@@nc3826 112 out of the 120.000 Geely employees.
@@drfisheyeYes, but it's those "112" people who are behind the engineering, design, and development. And just because volvo is a part of geele, doesn't mean geely is a big part of volvo. Did you call volvo and Ford by the same name when Ford owned volvo? My Volvo C30 was designed, engineered and tested in Sweden, but it was still built in Belgium.
I have the Ioniq5 just now. Having owned for nearly two years, it's time for a change, and this is the one that is tempting me. The deals offered by Volvo for pcp or lease, etc, are looking good too.
quite a bit smaller my friend.
@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 yea, I know, I don't need something the size of the Ioniq5 anymore though, so its all good.
33 grand in Great British pounds
"bargain" and "cheap" are not the words
I'm sure people will enjoy paying the depreciation on that on their PCP deals.
Your point could be applied to ANY brand new car, of any price, ICE, hybrid or EV.
Why single out this?
@@themomentalist @themomentalist because they have put the word Bargain in the title of the video. But cheap is not there, they say "cheapest" in the intro which is probably true. "Affordable" is also mentioned which is ridiculous.
@@Zebsy And this car IS a bargain, comparatively.
@@themomentalist "a thing bought or offered for sale much more cheaply than is usual or expected". Really?
@@Zebsy Yes, really. Why is this so hard for you to understand that other people see things differently to you?
I still object to the use of the word 'cheap' for a car that costs in excess of £30K new. But we're getting there. One of these days, we'll get to the point where an electric car is in my price range (and I think in the price range of most people I know), which is more like £20K new, perhaps £15K used after three years or so.
Plenty of 3 year old EVs for £15k NOW
This gives me hope that a short range, slow, small car with no frills and steel wheels etc could be affordable for me soon.
UK spec Dacia Spring coming soon!
@@JackScarlett1 I certainly hope so a charming little car
BYD are selling a small hatch in the UK for £26k and MG4 have something similar with more range for £27k. Sounds expensive but the average new car price in the UK is a whopping £39k
Order is in for a RWD long range Ultra with the recycled jeans indigo interior- being told it will be with me in the next 3 months- can't wait and happy to report on it when it comes!
Lack of instrument cluster is a concern.
Driver looking at Central console for real time drive information like speed is concerning.
A 3rd party company like Bosch needs to make an effective affordable plugin HUD for manufacturers to offer or as a plugin upgrade for any car. The EV6 and Ariya have HUDs and they are great.
@@GudieveNing So does the top spec Kona Electric.
Loads of cars have done the same thing over the years, you don't exactly glue your eyes to it, you glance quickly at it every now and then, I hardly ever look at it myself.
It is exactly like in every Tesla Model 3 and Y.
@@CATinBOOTS81 Yeah, I drive a Model 3 and it sucks. Fortunately Aliexpress has retrofit displays for sale. Maybe someday they'll have one for the EX30....
Own 2 Volvo C30s, have owned XC70, XC90 in the past, drove a C40 today and was super impressed by drivetrain + design, but surprised by its size relative to our C30s which feel almost go-kart like. The EX30 is the pick of the new product lines for me, keeping a small size and offering lots of practical touches with engineering that seeks simplification. Will very likely be adding it to our business for the short to medium range trips. Nice points regarding product positioning relative to Polestar.
Nooooooooo! Not another car with the speedo squeezed into the corner of a central display out of the drivers view.
Ignore the speedo - drive to the conditions.
Drive one and you'll see it's really not an issue.
@@beachcrowof course it’s an issue. Anyone with a modern infotainment system knows of hazards caused by eyes off the road.
@@AlanTov If you can just tell the car not to speed and the speed-limit mapping is kept uptodate (even OSM is not bad these days for that) then maybe one doesn't actually need to keep staring at the speedo? I'd love it if my car could just keep track of the speed limit instead of me having to spend a significant amount of attention on it. Then we could all spend more time actually looking at the front at what is going on.
@@AlanTovit’s literally still in the eyeline if you glance for a millisecond. It’s less movement than looking in the rear view mirror. People are ridiculously resistant to change.
I've done 2 years research into my own driving needs and all I need is 170 miles and a decent boot size maybe back seat that folds completely flat if I was being picky. Thanks Jack
Geely are absolutely killing it at the moment. And I would happily have the small battery version on my drive. And as my only car too. On the list for my next car.
Why the obsession with inferior battery tech when economical diesel and petrol ICE are so good, economical, practical and so much less expensive? Please explain (all credit to Pauline Hanson for that wording).
because ev is the future and ice is so yesterday. don't tell toyata about this.
@@michaeljiang960 That's an explanation? Surely there must be more than childish hyperbole (no offence intended)?
@@clives4501 Some people enjoy the rough edges that new technology has. It's not like electric cars have no benefits either.
Electricity is everywhere so you can charge anywhere there's a public socket rather than having to go out of your way to drive to a petrol station. Regenerative braking also makes city driving much better.
Not to mention in a car with this much acceleration, the instant torque from electric motors is addictive
Geely? It's a Volvo. It helps Geely because they own the brand, but it's Volvo who did the work on this car (beyond the platform).
I'd get this over a Model 3 for sure.
Volvo is so far beyond the quality of the Model 3 its hilarious. If you need a lil extra space, XC40 is worth looking at. I am waiting for EX60, I think that will convert alot of people to electric.
I'm glad to see that Jack Grealish is getting work while the season is still on break
Non sequitur jokes aside
Always a good time to have you presenting, Jack
Australia has 9/10 of the things need to dig out of the ground to make batteries... but we just dig it and sell it, no value add here in OZ :(
China takes most of it lol, they bought everyone
I agree - something for Australia to fix. It's sitting on a white gold mine.
@@stewdean Tbh, they already don't have solar panels everywhere, which is just plain insanity.
we had a lithium processing plant built near us in WA, we benefit by having the toxic waste I mean fluoride put in our water
As you said - there could have been more interior space within the same footprint, if only that long-for-no-reason bonnet was shorter and the cabin space extended a bit forward. I bet my old Renault Modus is more roomy, even with it's petrol-engine... The interior design itself though, I prefer much more than in those in the out-going ICE-Volvos.
I know it's a fashion choice, but I desperately want to "fix" the buttons on Jack's shirt!
Yeah, the lower ones atleast.😂
Nae it’s flawless! No notes!
Let me get this straight an LFP battery can be charged from 0-100% & discharged again time and again. It also can be super charged without much battery degradation. The bigger rage lithium nickel manganese batteries can only be charged to 80% and discharged to 20% before battery degradation and each supercharger use damages them. So how are they the good stuff? Oh and don’t mention battery fires, I’ve not heard of any reports of fires involving LFP batteries and one final point, the latest CATL M3P LFP battery has nearly the same energy density as the other type of batteries anyway 🤷🏼♂️
What are you talking about?
@@themomentalist Jacks description of the differences in battery chemistry. In virtually every metric except energy density, LFP is the clear winner... but Jack dismissed it in favour of NMC (the only advantage of which is energy density, but LFP is closing that gap too).
@@logicalChimp But Jack didn’t say the things you’re claiming he said. Where have you got these other claims from?
@@themomentalist I only said that Jack dismissed LFP and claimed NMC was superior... which it is, in one single metric (energy density - which Jack also said).
The rest of the information is fairly widespread... apparently not 'common knowledge', but LFP chemistry has been around so long that patents have just expired.
BTW - LFP is also the chemistry used by the BYD 'Blade' battery - the one they test by hammering nails into etc. The 'blade' is more about packaging - it's the LFP chemistry that makes it safe and non-reactive to punctures, etc.
@@logicalChimp I apologise, I confused you with the other poster above. You are quite right that you didn’t say anything else. My mistake
Volvo is a luxury brand so this is affordable by their standards. Love the China rant. It is just the reality of thjngs.
It's so close to perfect it's like they're messing it up on purpose. Tiny bit longer so the back seat isn't cramped. Add the buttons back in and give the driver a display. Then we're golden.
The best bit was your ted talk. Spot on
Great car and a great report, as usual. Will watch the full test when it comes.
Very clever packaging, but it's not the C30 we want. We love all of the practical storage and quality of life designs, but we just want small cars that aren't necessarily children and parent motivated. They *can* get bigger cars, singles shouldn't *have" to get all of the family stuff tacked on.
There aren't ISOFIX points and snack trays on 911s and GT86s, families aren't trying to shove their kids into small cars. It's nice that the EX30 can accommodate, but markets just want small cars for small needs.
Thanks Jack - very interested in hearing how this drives. My current car is the ID.3, and it's a little concerning as to my future with VW when they appear to have had a fright with their EV designs and are doing everything to go in the opposite direction and upwards in price. I liked the mini TED Talk ;) I like the design of the EX30 inside and out, even if it does have the first order stormtrooper look :)
Stormtrooper - you nailed it - i was trying to think where i'd seen in before....
I don't normally write my comments towards car brands. But I have to say this is the car for my everyday use. Bravo Volvo the Swiss makes me all gooey.
I agree Jack, smaller LFP battery is the way forward for mass adoption. Average commute round trip in Australia is 34km, on sealed roads at an average speed of 31 km/h. I’d guess 90% of the average urban vehicles life is used for commuting - why haul around the unnecessary weight of a battery dimensioned for less than 5% of trips ?.
Still, 0.16kWh/km is still pretty lardy arse terrible, especially because it isn't stated as WLTP. Tesla does better and isn't brick shaped.
@@iansmith6728 I agree, Model 3 RWD is 7.7km/kWh - the EX30 49kWh is 6.6km/kWh.
In Australia, a model 3 RWD is AUD $61.1k, the EX30 49kWh is not available and the MG4 at 6.9km/kWh is AUD $41.6k.
EX30 49kWh looks to be about AUD $51.5k based on UK pricing.
Might be worth waiting for the Tesla model 2 .
The way forward for mass production will be sodium-ion, not LFP.
@@4203105 maybe, however I haven’t seen an major BEV manufacturers offering sodium ion only packs. Sodium ion cell cycle life has been much lower than for lithium - if it can be improved to be comparable with lithium then it certainly will have a cost advantage.
I had to look up if they were planning to sell this thing in the US, and was very pleasantly surprised to find that the answer seems to be yes. Kudos to Volvo for doing that! Every other manufacturer seems to run screaming away from the notion that Americans might buy any car that could reasonably described as "small".
I can’t wait for cars with less horsepower giving more mileage. My car has 150hp and is quite adequate.
my thougts too, when i heard this cars spec, I was hoping, right away, could they come up with a smaller engine later, for an even smaller price ?? Just wonder, it could boost the sale huge
The problem is weight. You can have a powerful motor and have the same range if you use the same power from your acceleration pedal. The motor is not that heavy and there is no point on making it less powerful.
@@locosaint Correct, but my insurance company doesn't like "muscle cars"! many EV's accellerates like a Ferrari, so insurance prices accelerates too... If Volvo makes a 150 hp EX30, they will probably just reduce power on the same engine, to reduce cost
@@HansVestergaard I suspect the single-motor version will be ~200hp (which is probably equivalent to 150hp in an ICE car, given that EVs - and their batteries - are a fair bit heavier)
@@HansVestergaard Change the company, that's super dumb.
@fullycharged Compare it with MG4 and BYD atto3
I would not call this "affordable" at that price point. I'm interested to see the starting price for the Tesla Model 2, figures I've seen so far are $25,000 which is definitely more affordable. But if it comes in at a lower price point to this, it will get all the sales.
Shhh for Jack mentioning tesla is a trigger word. 👍🏻😀
I wish polestar was actually making their own version of this thing. That would be a hoot imo. Volvo won't make it truly fun.
If tesla spent their time on Model 2, instead of the bizarre Cybertruck. But it's an American company, and compact cars are very unamerican. But I guess the China factory will make them.
@@rowaystarco TERAMX is going to build 2,000,000+ of the compact teslas when it's open and ramped up fully by 2025 or 2026.
China fked around and denied tesla expansion plans twice now. They may not get anymore of teslas BILLIONS&they deserve it!
Except the model 2 does not exist. This does.
@@4203105 uh proof of your inane assertion? Not a single one of these in production form has been delivered ANYWHERE globally yet!
The mini China rant is bang on. Our government's lack of climate action across the board is literally in our faces right now. Hottest temps on record, countries literally burning, and China completely dominating the car markets because they got ahead of EV development.
What's astonishing is that we still continue to drag our feet here, in Europe, and in the US. It's not like these are worst case predictions, it's literally happening right now. Why the fuck aren't we doing anything?!
I like the look a lot. I appreciate it's smaller but lets face there are loads of bigger options so if its too small for you move on!
I was interested to see the Ford Puma EV and the talk was that may come in at around £35k but surely this will be direct competition so will Ford have to react?
Smoke a Lamborghini Diablo from a dead stop at an intersection and then take the kids to soccer practice and stop at the store for some more bananas. Things have gone a little sideways here. Loved the vid. Thx for the content.
Nice to see affordable, practical EVs from the legacy manufacturers - hopefully the EX30 is the first of at-least-several. Personally, I'd still like a tiny two-seat EV that can do motorway speeds and that has a range of 150+ miles as a second car, but I recognise that mine's a niche case. This is a step in a good direction :)
Aptera has what you want
@@myuzu_ It's true. When they start building right-hand drive models and selling them into the UK, I'll likely be in their first thousand customers (they've said they're gonna, it's just not a priority right now and I get it :D Gotta be successful in the US before you can afford to try and break into foreign markets).
This is exactly why self regenerating plug in hybrids (with under 40k lecky range) are best.
For the daily drive youd barely ever need petrol, 100% efficient in traffic jams. Still do long journeys.
If i had the money, id develop a electic hub with regen access, that bolts on to a cars front or back wheels, (whatever is not attached to the ICE) and connects to a battery with apprix 25kms range.
Affordable, easy and eliminates the biggest pollution issue, idling and low speed scenarios.
When did 2.03m wide become small?
Quite a while ago, I suspect - my Renault Grand Scénic is 2.08m wide including the mirrors, and it's 18 years old. The 21-year-old Focus parked in front of it is noticeably narrower, though.
It's not that wide though? 1836mm.
@@esaedvik Volvo EX30 dimensions:
Width: 1836 mm
Width *incl. mirrors* : 2032 mm
For completeness, given the original comment and my reply concerning my 2005 Renault Grand Scénic:
Width: 1,805 mm
Width, with Mirrors: 2087 mm
@@esaedvik yes it is that wide...unless you drive around with the mirrors folded
I'd consider the Renault Grand Scénic a large car.
Does it do reverse charging? V2H or V2G?
Finally ,the model i've been waiting for...
How sad - no offence intended.
@@clives4501got nothing nice to say. Don't say anything .
@@MoltenArmour You seek to silence me for an innocuous comment? What is the world coming to?
@@clives4501 time to jump off the net
@@MoltenArmour Another who would seek to silence me for an innocuous comment. Why are so many afraid of opinions which may differ from their own? What has happened to critical thinking and rational debate?
The Tedtalk was super neat and to the point! Thanks for that.
It may be the cheapest of their range but it’s certainly not cheap.
It's al lot of money, but great value. I'm always chocked to find out how much people spend on new cars (I never bought a new car). The average in the Netherlands is more than € 42k, so this Volvo is suddenly relatively cheap.
@@janvanrookhuijzen8309 Would be better value with bigger boot. I asked Volvo if i can fold down the backrest of the passenger seat because in some older Volvo cars you can. Would increase the usability of this small car. But no, you cant. :(
So its more like a fun car for me and i dont need one. In the end i will buy a MG4.
If you are talking about economy only, I will always prefer expensive to buy and cheap to maintain than the opposite.
The average new vehicle purchase price in the United States is $50,000. This will be well under that. Sure not “cheap” but few new cars are cheap.
@@chags3512 for UK if you own a new car either you have more money than sense or your company pays for it.
Regular people dont buy new cars and certainly not for this money.
Id say cheap is sub £30k and would still require financial institutions to offer a longer payback period than 3-4yrs.
Great review. All the important stuff and none of the boring bits.
Since when is €40k "affordable"??
Since EVs raised the average price of cars cause of lower long term ownership costs. £39k is average new car price now.
Since when did 33k equal 40k?
Rip Van Winkle, good luck dealing with reality
It's not, but these sorts of videos aren't aimed at the aspiring working class, it seems sadly that they're recorded for the primarily middle class audience who think of a £40k purchase as nothing. Oh to be born into privilege, eh?
@@nc3826 It's 40k euro that's why I put the euro symbol "€" before the 40k
lmao. I hope you had fun stating the obvious, which is completely irrelevant to the counterpoint.....
Sorry to confuse you....
Skipping watching this - the title says bargain, the comments say starting from £33k & that you mention "affordable". It's only affordable if you have the means to pay for it. A Koenigsegg is affordable if you have a few million spare. Sadly not many do, and neither do many have £33k lying around collecting dust when there are cheaper alternative means of transport if you just need transport.
Good contender. Be interesting to see how the model 2 compares.
Volvo et al chucking out some good stuff.
Very well said. "This is the result of the European/American governments dragging their heels..." SO TRUE.
If they haven't moved the speedo from the gauge cluster to somewhere very visible, then I think a lot of Volvo drivers will start getting speeding tickets. It rather important to not go over the speed limit, both for safety but also for your own finances.
I understand where you are coming from as that was one of my thoughts when I bought a Tesla nearly four years ago. I also agree with your comment re safety and finances however now very rarely look at the speedo. I go with the flow of traffic or if in front and I exceed the speed limit I get an instant audible warning, repeatedly and very annoying, until I slow down. With one pedal driving slowing down is very quick.
Living with an EV is a different mindset to an ICE. Not only with regards to the charging but the whole driving experience.
I like this Volvo EX30, we need more smaller cars from manufacturers.
I wasn't interested in getting a new car, and I wasn't interested in looking at an EV, but you made me interested. What a smart little commuting vehicle... maybe running all those errands around town? Compelling.
It's usually the new car that has the camo wrap.
This is a nice looking EV and it seems pretty good, decent charging speed and good range.
Current early personal lease ‘deals’ on these are £450 on a 47+9. Not as competitive as I had hoped. And given that Volvo’s subscription service is over £1k for an electric XC40, you’d have to be on glue to go for an EX30 on their subscription.
Volvo were on crack when they came up with the subscription plan. There is nothing appealing about it. It’s a massive rip off.
100% on the range point, for a second or city car that is ample, I have a miNI SE and (touch wood) have not run out on my commutes of 75 miles round trip daily. I love it.
I'd love to see car manufacturers make EV's with CATL gen 2 Sodium Ion batteries.
Not quite as good energy density as Lithium, but everything they're made from is in the top 10 most abundant materials on earth, which makes them significantly cheaper.
Lithium is $5,000/ton, Sodium is $80/ton, for example.
Ora already puts a Sodium Ion battery in the base model Ora Black Cat I believe (don't shoot me if thats wrong, its just something I read somewhere). The higher spec car has LFP.
Well those don't exist yet. They are still on the first generation and those aren't cheaper than LFP yet. Should get there in the second generation and I'm sure at that point CATL won't be able to make them fast enough and every manufacturer will want them in their standard range car.
It won't just be cheaper. Apart from the energy density, sodium-ion batteries have better properties than lithium-ion, all around.
One day, when my beloved i3 60ah struggles to cut the mustard, this volvo is looking like its successor to me. There is just something about its happy face and more compact size I like. Plus the realistic effort to manufacture in a more conscious way.
I thought it's closest rivals would have been like an ID.3/Cupra Born or something which is a similar-ish price
It’s not unlike the Megane etech.
It is
Yeah, the EX30 is not years ahead of the competition.
Pretty sure it's closest rival is the MG4, which starts at 26k GBP... same size, pretty much the same range (both short and long-range versions), 7k cheaper than the Volvo.
I love so many things about this design. It is high time we take sustainability and climate change seriously in every major consumer decision. The one deal killer for me is the lack of a central speed display. Safety-critical information needs to be in the central field of vision of the driver.
Every car looks small next to Jack
Defo. They need an normal sized person to do the back seat test 😂
jack must be Dutch.....
He just doesn't fit in a small island
Which is his height? He looks so cramped on the rear seats...
0-60 in 3.4 seconds is quicker than any Audi and most Ferraris under £150k
That is crazy!
I’m buying one. In black
The big man is turning into Rico Suave after a hard night on the dancefloor!
I'll take it.
I'm just jealous. 😂
Liked your mini china rant "TED talk". One might add, it's not just the Europeans and Americans' lack of foresight. the Japanese have been even worse in preparing for the EV transition.
You're very kind to say you feel comfortable at the back. You looked totally cramped and literally stuck in that rear seat!
Exactly what I was thinking. Definitely not a car to take five adults for anything more than a two minute spin.
My V70 is only just over a foot longer overall, and I can easily push the driver's seat fully back, without causing crush injuries to anyone sat behind me.
It will also take 10 foot pipes with the boot closed.
This thing seems to be like an inverse Tardis. Big on the outside, tiny inside.
Where did they hide all that space? 🤔
Loved the TED talk. Spot on. 😊
Love this car but the backseat is just too damn small. Somehow the ID2 version backseat looks bigger, so interesting to see how that will turn out. But Volvo in general has had pretty small backseat areas in all of their EV's thus far. XC40 isn't exactly roomy either.
looks good....beats the ID3
How much are you making a year to call this affordable? I think we need to re-define affordable for this gentleman.
Affordable depends on too many factors, including housing costs and availability of salary sacrifice schemes.
Cost is only one aspect. E.v's are a solution looking for a problem. If they were given away, they would still be a waste of time.
I was paid a cool £2 million for this video alone
@@JackScarlett1 Please explain.
Thanks for showing us the Volvo EX30, Billy Zane from Titanic!
Over all design is amazing but the back seat space is so cramped. A deal breaker for me.
he's like 6'5" of course it is a bit cramped. pretty sure it would be fine for most normal sized people.
Like Jack says, it's odd that they left so long a bonnet. Even15cm shorter would have made a lot of difference in the back.
Don’t really understand how this guy could say “quite roomy” as his legs are cramped and spread on either side of the seat to just fit LOL
@@noah.tingen He means for normal people. How often do you have a 2m guy sitting behind a 2m guy?
I would wish that car makers would remove the middle seat, the result would be a more narrow car wich would improve the areodynamics wich in turn would increase the range while simultaneously make it cheaper.
It was looking good up until when you said you control everything through the touchscreen.
Ok boomer
@@USNEM You can't use your phone whilst driving, as it's not safe. So using a tablet to change things like the temperature etc is just as dangerous, as you have to take your eyes off the road, due to not being able to do it by feel alone... Which you can easily do with physical controls.
Not to mention the fact that you have more steps to be able to do simple things as well as you have to tap/swipe etc to find things first too. All around it just makes things less efficient and safe.
It has voice control too.
@@kesgreen4639 We all know that they don't tend to be very good though.
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR I've never had a car with voice control, so I have no personal experience. Some say it works well though.
In 1988, I bought a new Ford Escort for £6,200. That's £16,400 in today's money. And I got 150,000 miles out of it. New cars are unaffordable.
Yes, the cheapest Ford Fiesta is now £19,350. Of course you get more for your money but I doubt you will get more than 150,000 miles out of it. And this is a model that is about to be discontinued.
I suspect the fact that most cars are financed has contributed to this. People don't look at the capital cost, just the monthly payments.
Personally I bought an e-bike instead, I hope to never buy another car.
This might be our next car. I just wish it could charge faster (350 kW and up).
And it should as a 2024 or 2025 model year ev. The Chinese are behind in average ev charging time, perf and top speeds.
Only the Koreans can challenge tesla there. Weird to as China has 480-600kw fast chargers already in service.
Plus evs that can dual charge through 2 ports simultaneously. Maybe in another few year's?
@@4literv6before 2030 100%
Just to check the numbers, what is the longest charge time for 10-80 percent that would be acceptable to you?
@@kosiranze Max 20 minutes. When traveling long distances, we need to charge about an hour with our 50 kW Bolt.
@@sebastian.tristan then 150kw is enough in 20 minutes you can theoretically deliver 50kwh, which is 80 percent of the long range verison battery capacity. For passenger cars, there really is no pont in having greater than 350kw chargers. Even if you take the biggest batteries on passenger cars today (excluding us pick up trucks) a 350kw charger can deliver a theoretical 117kwh in 20 minutes.
A car that can sustain 150kw for 20 minutes so 50kwh, will gain about 200km or 120mi of range in that time (250wh/km, 400wh/mi). This i think is acceptable for a lot of people.
Same practice for 350kw in 20 min is 117kwh. That is 470km or 290mi.
150kw comes out to about 10min of charging for every hour of travelling. And 350 comes down to only 4 min per hour of traveling. Going to let's say 700kw would therfore mean 2 minute charging for every hour of traveling, and i think that you see that you get diminishing returns.
Also had a renault zoe for a few years which also charges at 40kw average only stops either to short for a proper meal, or too long for a stretch and a bathroom break. Having an e208 now which does 100kw( 80kw average) gets stops down to 25 minutes, and 25 minutes when not traveling alone pass by usually about in time when a group/family gets ready to go back on a road.
Awaiting the arrival of this beauty in South Africa 👌🔥
Apparently from Jan Feb 2024 first delivery will take place here… I can’t wait to own this as our first EV
Affordable.... very funny. Let's not accept this rising norm of paying for a car what previous generations paid for a house.
C'mon, just go with the MSM hype. What's wrong with you?
'A little bit of cabin space' Let's admit that the back seats are not for adults! 😀I'll keep my diesel XC60 for longer trips and thinking about EX30 as a second city car and short distance trips. I like the car, it's just the price I have to digest it for a while before I jump to an acquisition.
That may be a "baby" for someone as big as Jack; but it is just another expensive SUV. It may not be *as expensive* as other SUVs, but it is still expensive.
Also far less maintenance and far lower fuel cost. Think longer term.
@@esaedvik I do. Apart from only me to transport, I only have a small space to park in, yet I still have the occasional long trip.
Totally agree with having a smaller / 2nd car for school runs, pop to shops etc. We have a Model Y, and would like a 2nd more affordable run around EV. If the price bracket stays close to this, this maybe a good choice, but when the Dolphine comes, this maybe a challenger on price.
£33k isn't exactly 'cheap', particularly in the current economical climate
Which Volvo is cheaper?
If you consider gas prices vs electricity, it becomes a bit more affordable over time.
@@nc3826 All other Volvo's are larger cars, so that's like compaing apples to oranges. Besides my original point, anyway.
Positives:
-Recycled materials. They look cool and nice to the touch and shows-off the new age of thinking (we can use it again and again and again...), just seems clever to me.
-The TED talk. It embarrases politicians and 'Legacy' car brands. Good.
Negatives:
-No buttons. I have a 2010 car with radio integrated into the gps tpuchscreen, just the radio and nothing else. It still bugs me. I still want buttons.
-The speedometer should still be infront of the driver. I have poor eyesight, don't make me have to look around, please.
100% agree. That was my gripes about this car.
I was super stoked about the price, but was immediately turned off by the lack of buttons. Speedo not in front of the driver is also a really stupid trend that needs to die with evs. It's just dangerous not having it right in front of you and buried in a screen that may or may not fail. I'm deciding between this car and the Honda prologue, and I think this video actually sold me on the upcoming Honda.
geely was the best thing that ever happened to volvo
Yes and low prices cause it's made in China. Geely is so clever, shifting production to China and shot in the arm for Volvo new generation EVs
Actually they produce quite a few Volvos in Sweden.... And US production of Volvos will start soon....
the same strategy Tesla using....
Jack, while driving a Volvo C40, I noticed the same problem that you and other reviewers have mentioned. My right leg (your left leg) rubs the console and is very uncomfortable. I went to a Junk Yard (a breaker yard) and purchased a used console. I showed it to an automobile upholstery worker and he can reshape the problem area and make it look factory. When it's done I'll post it to the internet and maybe Geely or Volvo will see it and fix the problem at the factory from now on. By the way Sir, another great video from you and your team.
40k euros marked as a bargain is something to cry about
Physical buttons for media + climate panel on the center dash, physical individual buttons/knobs ont the steering wheel, normal speakers/Sound system (as up until this point in every Volvo) as I only see that extra place as "gimmik" in the doors, and this could have been a mega hit for me. Lovely exterior design, good size and price (in the category).
Also a bit less performance for less money, in the traffic you cant get 5s accelerations from 0-100 all the time.