Lmao my favorite part was towards the end of the battle when Itachi was walking towards Sasuke doing his finger pointing and Sasuke was looking around scared as if he was in a genjutsu and expected another Itachi to show up 😂😂 I genuinely thought that was gonna happen too first time I watched
One thing I think that a lot of people overlook is that while Itachi never wanted to kill or seriously harm Sasuke in this fight, he did need to completely deplete him of chakra before he ran out of chakra himself. That's the condition for Orochimaru coming out. Sasuke honestly did a damn good job of making Itachi work for that win condition.
@@v.thirteen5504 Easy junior, I'm saying Sasuke ain't that hot. He was up against a diseased cripple who was holding back and still needed to use curse mark.
And Itachi ain’t even struggle . Itachi changed lives behind the scenes , because he’s a character who gets it , he can adapt he’s a learner , and skilled. A cheat code in his own right . He pulled on Sasuke , behind the scenes, what we see he pulled on pulled on kabuto. But that was the Sasuke version, Sasuke isn’t kabuto. But he saving life because he has the ninja world in view and from he became in life of his own choosing . But he has mind to always figure things out . And always stay calm and assess, but his version of it is cold. And kakashi became his girlfriend , got dog washed casually , and he still was glazing Itachi I think
Sasuke was a genius for EVERY move he made being a plan to set up kirin... But itachi was a OMEGA genius for every move he made being to make sasuke run out of chakra, bring orochimaru out AND implant a curse jutsu to activate upon seeing obitos eyes
Actually the itachi vs sasuke novelization in the second fanbook, explains that itachi just dodged the chidori strike, sasuke blew a hole through the wall and then itachi used sasuke as a means to propel himself out of the wall. It also explains that sasuke broke the tsukuyomi for two reasons. One was the chakra from the curse mark but more importantly his visual prowess was great enough to register that tsukuyomi is a genjutsu, which hardly anyone else can do and sasuke just has that eye.
I also thought so. Plus saske have already experienced Tsukyomi 2 times before and also with sharingan. You could argue Itachi tortured him to make him more resistant towards one of the worst power possible. First time is always the worst. This was third time plus cursemark vs perhaps lower lvl hit as well.
@subwall7464 I mean. You saw Itachi VS Orochimaru in this fight, right? Basically this exact Sasuke barely beat almost dead Orochimaru and 9.5/10 diffed Deidara. Deidara got absolutely folded by Itachi.
@@subwall7464as an Itachi glazer myself, I try my best not to be bias. That said this is an exception where I think he’s leagues above Sasuke here. I feel like the story makes it very clear, just off the tier of fighters Itachi no diffs. I mean you can directly compare OrochiMaru like six did.
I think the bigger issue is interpreting this as a fight. Its more of a training/progression moment. Itachi wasnt living past the day anyway. So it was time to give Sasuke his MS and see how far he had come. Genjutsu-see if he had developed and how strong he can handle. MS genjutsu is stronger than any other kind. So if he can deal with that he had certainly reached the level of a true shinobi. Shuriken- jutsu of the clan and was assessing his ability to use it especially given how he had trained him. Ninjutsu- fireball jutsu and having general jutsu to end fights. Seen by their clashes and him having to counter Amateratsu and forcing Itachi into Susanoo Taijutsu- testing his sharingan and his ability to fight close combat. I can keep going but that was all this was to me. A final teacher to student moment where the gift for completing was the MS. He also eradicated Oro so he would seek his own form. Its symbolic of him needing his own strength from now on and no one elses. Itachi can die in peace and Sasuke can return to the leaf as a hero, asset and know that the Uchiha clan legacy lives through Sasuke. My headcanon: if Sasuke wasnt good enough I dont think Itachi would have allowed himself to die at Sasukes hands. He would have beat Sasuke and just died. Whether he gets the MS would be unknown but I dont think he would have allowed Sasuke to believe he was the victor otherwise.
Wait Itachi actually has insane stamina and chakra reserves wtf. 3 shadow clones, 3 genjutsu, tsukiyomi, 1 fireball, 2-5 amaterasus, susanoo to block Kirin and held it up to beat up Orochimarus strongest form while blind and still put a seal in Sasuke after all that. I think thats more than enough to beat up Obito
Maybe if itachi was healthy. Remember that Obito has insane durability, just look at what he does to the village at 15 years old. If it weren't for Minato, Obito could have solo'ed the whole village.
Itachi never had low chakra reserves and it doesn’t state this anywhere. However his stamina from illness was affected so he couldn’t fight for long periods.
@@rkvlegacy9206The only time Itachi’s chakra is mentioned is when Karin (a sensor) states that Itachi’s Shadow Clone had “enormous chakra” and she thought Sasuke was in danger because of it. Bear in mind, she’s been around Orochimaru. So when she says “enormous chakra” she has a pretty good standard to judge by. And this is just ONE Shadow Clone meant to give Sasuke a message, not to fight. This implies Itachi has at bare-minimum Orochimaru-level chakra, if not much more. Nobody would ever claim Orochimaru has low-chakra lol.
I've always felt like the statements about Itachi sandbagging vs. Sasuke have been way played up, and/or have been retcons. People act as if Itachi could have beaten Hebi Sasuke with the same ease that he beat Kakashi or Part 1 Sasuke and I think that's absurd. I think Itachi tried his ass off to wear down Sasuke, holding back only enough so as not to kill (the same way Sasuke would hold back not to kill Deidara, and yet no one thinks Sasuke sandbagged against Deidara) and was truly, genuinely taken aback by Kirin. Imo the fight has Itachi in the lead, then on the backfoot as Sasuke is much better than he anticipated, then in a check position when he thinks Sasuke is out of chakra, only to realize that Kirin is THAT JUTSU that literally might kill him if he doesn't go all out to defend against it. Anything else to me is either a retcon, or a misconception about Obito's words. Words which are heavily biased and that come from someone who generally has really shit power-scaling takes, such as when Obito believed Amaterasu-only Sasuke could take on the 5 Kage at once with ease and take hostages. Even Itachi isn't fucking doing that. Obito, what crack were you smoking to think that was ever a possibility?
It’s kind of crazy that sasuke actually would’ve just killed itachi prematurely had he not to been so theoretical with Kirin. Not only does sasuke literally explain Kirin to itachi, but he gives itachi SO MUCH time to react to it lol. And itachi BARELY even reacts to Kirin with prep time. If sasuke said nothing and just launched Kirin it would’ve been GG. And It’s ironic because sasuke isn’t normally one for theatrics but this was his big moment so I get it lol.
Itachi made it look like Sasuke won by using the precise amount of chakra needed to exhaust Sasuke's chakra and exhaust his own while having enough left over to seal Oro. He had that fight planned down to the minute details and had control of the fight the entire time, like a rehearsed stage play. No one has a better combination of long term planning, combat prep, and quick thinking feats than Itachi.
Oh, I didn't notice that the forehead tap was what sealed the Amaterasu into Sasuke's eye! Makes sense, I never stopped to think about when Itachi rigged such a metaphysical transplant.
Low-key. Scaling orochinaru too. You could conclusively insist that without orochinaru's knowledge. Sasuke wouldn't have the means to perpetuate his proponent power. That's why we believe Sasuke could take on the paths but not tendo
Yeah what's crazy is thab sasuke wouldn't even need his susano, And Sasuke didn't even have ems Edit: to add it only takes someone within proximity or someone who's a vessel (boruto-momo, Sasuke-orochumaru, naruto-kurama/minato) to break any level of genjutsu, even frog song!
Itachi not getting damage by the chidori if he got hit is plot tbh not to mention sasuke was nowhere close to full power when fighting itachi he was on low Chakra reserve when they where fighting
Hebi Sasuke said to Orochimaru that he is stronger than him, and later, he said to Karin that he won because of Orochimaru's illness. 2 contradicting statements that should be taken with a grain of salt. I believe that Sasuke was actually stronger than Orochimaru (at least the one with the sealed arms), and Hebi Sasuke is definitely stronger than Orochimaru.
@@kaztheunbreakable In the databooks. Amaterasu is called the strongest fire release jutsu and Tsukuyomi is known as one of the Ultimate Genjutsu. Amaterasu burns the target until there is nothing left while Tsukuyomi can break the mind and is the only Genjutsu that can directly kill the opponent.
@ sure but Madaras fire style that took an entire platoon of water style users to counter is eating itachis amaterasu for lunch so that statement needs to be taken with more than just a grain of salt
@@kaztheunbreakable Amaterasu would eat Madara’s flames and Water style doesn’t negate Amaterasu which is as hot as the Sun’s surface. Madara had raw power but Amaterasu is literally the strongest fire release shown in the series. If Itachi was in Madara’s place and used Amaterasu more people would be dead as the flames would spread and inflict thousands of Shinobi unlike Madara’s which can be extinguished by Water jutsu
@@rkvlegacy9206 nah youre putting too much faith in a databook statement. If madara used amaterasu in that moment instead of regular fire then yes it would be stronger, but replace sasuke with madara in the fire v fire moment and madara is overpowering
One possible explanation for amaterasu not burning the trees, perhaps amaterasu only burns things that have chakra networks. I don't remember if in Naruto they state wether or not all living things have chakra or not. But if isn't stated. I think it's a possible reason.
What if Sasuke had awakened his MS when he fought Itachi? So let's split this into 2 rounds, Sasuke with his feats against Killer B (Taka Sasuke) and 5 Kage Summit Sasuke. How well would these Sasukes do against sick Itachi?
Taka sasuke is stated to weaker because he hasn’t fully recovered from his battle itachi along with having him having to change his fighting style because of the removal of the curse mark so he does worse than hebi, but 5ks sasuke does really better with him constantly acclimating with his Ms and grow stronger but unfortunately still gets beat if itachi was going all out because sasuke doesn’t fully catch up to itachi until he awakens the eternal mangekyou sharingan
@@huntershurley4331yeah and even with EMS people are still questioning if he did early on in the war arc as we see edo Itachi massively out perform sasuke
The coolest thing about this story is that. After Sauske's victory he adds his own Unique Mangekyou Power to Itachi's newly transplanted eye's because of their Kekkei Genkai traditions in their clan
So I have this idea. Can Itachi and Pain individually solo the rest of the Akatsuki (not counting Obito and Zetsu). So Pain and Itachi will individually fight Deidara, Sasori, Hidan, Kakuzu, Kisame, and Konan as a team. It's 1v6, don't tell me it's not fair for Itachi and Pain, they're the top 3 Akatsuki members after all...
Pain can easily do it. The man defeated the entirety of the hidden leaf village (the strongest village) and Naruto w/sage mode barely won due to having a bunch of advantages. I don't see Itachi doing it since he will run out of stamina before he can finish the job. 1v1s, itachi sweeps all of them but as a unit it would be too much for him.
@@alejandrorangel7668I think the moment me whips out the MS it’s over for atleast half of them. He could literally kill Hidan no problem. Deidara already got put in a genjutsu so he gets clapped. The real problem is going to be kakazu with the 5 hearts, konan with possible prep and maybe sasori. But even then, I don’t see konan getting past genjutsu, and if he needs to he can whip out the totsuka blade and really break them niggas down. Oh and amateratsu.
11:00 Correct. Sasuke when adult has put Amaterasu on his weapons and people before. But for the knives that stuck Sakura? When he grabbed those and hit them with Amaterasu, they instantly disappeared (extinguished I guess).
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@Six in regards to the rigged shuriken itachi should be more than able to manuever in the air like he did in the genjutsu when he threw sasuke. So that is probably why zetsu said he'd be able to dodge it instead of chalking it up to itachi suffering from using tsukuyomi.
Great video. I dont think Itachi has more stamina than sasuke, hes just more efficient at using it. I mean, he is terminally ill and sasuke is literally indra incarnate, there just aint no way.😂
Itachi uses partial susanno against Sasuke when he first sees him again in the war, he uses it to save Sasuke from Kabuto. Ninja storm also claim that he could use full Suano and I believe it’s Canon.
I feel like itachi didn’t hold back tsukyomi to sandbag but to just conserve chakra and his eyesight. A full power tsukyomi would just work against his goals. He’d go blind prematurely, and I feel like if sasuke couldn’t break out he’d just end the genjutsu himself. But sasuke broke out. And the databook makes it seem like he could’ve done it regardless. Sasuke after this point at the 5ks is a genjutsu master so I don’t wanna say that applies to this sasuke but u feel like it’s worth mentioning.
@@IIIISai He didn’t “seal” kurama he used sharingan to surpress his influence via genjutsu Jinchurriki who aren’t perfect are weak to sharingan genjutsu
@ajayimoses2495 I wont debate the specifics, it was still impressive and kuruma himself stated sasukes aura is similar to madara so idk man his doujutsu kinda nice for 3 tomeo he maximized its potential pre ms is what im saying
7:20 Well he When sasuke used Kirin (I think that’s what it’s called) Itachi pulls out his susano instantly, we don’t see that thing manifesting at all, It’s just there all of a sudden.
12:55 I've been a long time Naruto fan, known about this fight forever and whatnot...but never, not ONCE have I heard anyone mention that when Itachi is placing his finger on Sasuke's forehead, that is him imparting Amaterasu onto him. Wouldn't this just be a fan theory? I mean, I'll take it...but I've never seen anyone else bring this up before
Itachi beated snake man because of genjutsu not because he was stronger And also comparing itachi who had full chakra vs sasuke who had lost than half his chakra is not a fair comparison
So even tho orochimaru prior to this has I’m pretty sure two separate statements where he says itachi is stronger than him and us seeing him genjutsu and bully orochimaru you think he’s only stronger because of genjutsu and itachi sent out two clones before the fight has ninja cancer and spammed his strongest jutsus and still outlasted sasuke in chakra on top of sasuke having the CM and oro boosting his overall chakra it’s a more than fair comparison
I think it could be summed up to Itachi knows about the Hydra from orochimaru's time in the Akatsuki because they were partners and Itachi is the type of person to ask about people's abilities to see how they could work off of one another. Good example is juzo I believe his name is his first partner and kisame as well but not so much. Edit: btw who wins 4 tail Naruto or Manda? Say orochimaru summoned him against Naruto but left it to Manda.
Itachi: your training is useless, I can beat up without even harming you (Later) Sasuke: I got Kirin out and took 0 damage, YOU SEE THIS ITACHI, I’VE EXPOSED TO THE WORLD THAT YOUR A FRAUD, NOW I HAVE ME REVENGE (1 sealed orochimaru later) Sasuke: wtf where did all this damage come from
7:15 Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Itachi use partial Susano'o (specifically one arm) twice? Once when he's blocking *Sasuke's* partial Susano'o arm when they're passing through the forest, and then again when he's protecting Sasuke from Kabuto's attack.
Itachi's amateratsu falls onto oro's snake and kills it? so what you said at 10:50 doesn't seem super accurate. (chapter 394 page 3-4) Itachi possibly tanking chidori is solid reasoning though and obviously a compelling case for itachi's chakra, even while sick, was shown. Also hinata technically described itachi's chakra as 'very powerful' Tbh if you ignore speed scaling which is probably exaggerated in many cases, you can make the argument that hebi sasuke easily has the arsenal needed to take down minato, hiruzen or even most other kage.
3:53 there’s no other interpretation other than sauske broke out of tsykyomi. It’s crazy how sasuke is the only character in the show that gets this downplayed. Itachi did not hold back his tsykyomi that interpretation it’s completely headcanon.
Tsukuyomi is a straight up coma or insta death if used at full capacity That goes directly contrary to itachi’s motives so he definitely held back.. A full powered Tsukuyomi would make no sense
yo 6 my guy, I usually think asking for this as a comment is cringe but you NEED to make a video explaining why sukuna doesn't beat gojo without the 10 shadows man. The reddit community has been losing their minds saying insane shit, talking about sukuna mid diffs gojo, sukuna woulda won easier without the ten shadows and shit. People are going CRAZY. SAVE THEM
People need to remember that Itachi is the Genjutsu God nut his story is already gone because its Naruto Pt.1 & Boruto has been introduced into the Zeitgeist of the the times now
And even while blind he could recognize and accurately counter a jutsu that he probably never even encountered Goes to show his jutsu knowledge is top 3 in the verse at least
That never happens gang at all he never saw the gold and silver brothers or used the tools in the war and nothing implies these things happened before the war either
Few things. 1. I don't believe itachi held back in terms of power (abilities is a debate) because it wouldn't make sense that hes dying from a illness he had for years n it's clear that the longer the fight went his illness was progressing faster. 2. I belive in the theory that the curse mark nature energy is what allowed Sasuke to escape tsukyomi. Again it doesn't make sense that itachi used a weaker version when we haven't seen that in any other ms ability. 3. Zestu is unreliable since he doesn't know itachi like Obito n the version of itachi he's thinking about is a completely healthy itachi not on his death bed itachi
It's not that Itachi let Sasuke break Tsukuyomi, but his Tsukuyomi was not nearly what would be considered a "full power" Tsukuyomi, we know from the novels that it can kill and he can even incapacitate Kage level opponents with it like Kakashi (say he's Jonin all you want, but bro was considered for Hokage like 3 times before actually taking the role and was considered THE top Jonin of the Leaf), he scales back his Tsukuyomi and on top of that, he was terminally ill which was probably weakening his visual prowess to begin with. So Sasuke broke a very weak version of Tsukuyomi is the way I look at it. On the rigged shuriken point, that was a legit hit by Sasuke, the only thing Itachi could've done like you said is summon a partial Susano'o, and you were slightly incorrect saying only Madara could do that, because we see Itachi do it as a Reanimation when he swats away Sasuke's Susano'o arm with his own in midair. So Itachi in better condition likely avoids this, but this version of Itachi was either too weak or too slow, or just didn't want to reveal the Susano'o yet at this point and was willing to take the risk of taking that hit. The Chidori right after I don't think Itachi tanked it necessarily, I think he more or less did what he did in part 1 when Sasuke tried to run at him with Chidori and grabbed Sasuke's arm/redicted the Chidori into the ceiling, because we see the ceiling get blown to bits in the very next scene, but Itachi's momentum shifts from jumping forward to being pushed up and back so he was still pushed back by Sasuke but I don't think he tanked the Chidori directly, I think he diverted it away from himself but was still pushed back by Sasuke's momentum jumping toward him.
I remember watching this in the anime for the first time I knew it was a one character is clearly stronger situation I honestly thought Naruto or something would aid Sasuke not including orochimaru but the clear sign of holding back is his last breath not only implanting amatarasu against a bad guy obito he also flicked his forehead what did he need to kiss his forehead 😂
Itachi pointing to himself in the chair lives rent free in my head.
Don't even care that Sasuke saw through it. Shit was absolutely cold
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Lmao my favorite part was towards the end of the battle when Itachi was walking towards Sasuke doing his finger pointing and Sasuke was looking around scared as if he was in a genjutsu and expected another Itachi to show up 😂😂 I genuinely thought that was gonna happen too first time I watched
Honestly the hardest moment in anime for me
One thing I think that a lot of people overlook is that while Itachi never wanted to kill or seriously harm Sasuke in this fight, he did need to completely deplete him of chakra before he ran out of chakra himself. That's the condition for Orochimaru coming out. Sasuke honestly did a damn good job of making Itachi work for that win condition.
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Itachi sick and half blind brodie.
@@majesticslug3399okay? He’ll still clap most people before kcm2 and higher level combatants
@@v.thirteen5504 Easy junior, I'm saying Sasuke ain't that hot. He was up against a diseased cripple who was holding back and still needed to use curse mark.
And Itachi ain’t even struggle . Itachi changed lives behind the scenes , because he’s a character who gets it , he can adapt he’s a learner , and skilled. A cheat code in his own right .
He pulled on Sasuke , behind the scenes, what we see he pulled on pulled on kabuto. But that was the Sasuke version, Sasuke isn’t kabuto. But he saving life because he has the ninja world in view and from he became in life of his own choosing . But he has mind to always figure things out . And always stay calm and assess, but his version of it is cold. And kakashi became his girlfriend , got dog washed casually , and he still was glazing Itachi I think
Sasuke was a genius for EVERY move he made being a plan to set up kirin...
But itachi was a OMEGA genius for every move he made being to make sasuke run out of chakra, bring orochimaru out AND implant a curse jutsu to activate upon seeing obitos eyes
Actually the itachi vs sasuke novelization in the second fanbook, explains that itachi just dodged the chidori strike, sasuke blew a hole through the wall and then itachi used sasuke as a means to propel himself out of the wall.
It also explains that sasuke broke the tsukuyomi for two reasons. One was the chakra from the curse mark but more importantly his visual prowess was great enough to register that tsukuyomi is a genjutsu, which hardly anyone else can do and sasuke just has that eye.
Sasukes doujustu peak
I typically dont like using fanbooks as canon material but thats really cool..
I also thought so. Plus saske have already experienced Tsukyomi 2 times before and also with sharingan. You could argue Itachi tortured him to make him more resistant towards one of the worst power possible. First time is always the worst. This was third time plus cursemark vs perhaps lower lvl hit as well.
@@peterpancik5176 good point for sure !
Itachi's biggest iq feat is finding a way to hold back enough to make that fight look close
Y'all needa to stop acting like this Sasuke (hebi) is infinitely smaller than sick itachi
@@subwall7464 No, the big difference is obvious
hebi sasuke is almost infinitely smaller than sick itachi
@subwall7464 I mean. You saw Itachi VS Orochimaru in this fight, right?
Basically this exact Sasuke barely beat almost dead Orochimaru and 9.5/10 diffed Deidara. Deidara got absolutely folded by Itachi.
@@subwall7464as an Itachi glazer myself, I try my best not to be bias. That said this is an exception where I think he’s leagues above Sasuke here. I feel like the story makes it very clear, just off the tier of fighters Itachi no diffs. I mean you can directly compare OrochiMaru like six did.
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Love these fight analysis vids. Future series should take notes.
I think the bigger issue is interpreting this as a fight. Its more of a training/progression moment. Itachi wasnt living past the day anyway. So it was time to give Sasuke his MS and see how far he had come. Genjutsu-see if he had developed and how strong he can handle. MS genjutsu is stronger than any other kind. So if he can deal with that he had certainly reached the level of a true shinobi.
Shuriken- jutsu of the clan and was assessing his ability to use it especially given how he had trained him.
Ninjutsu- fireball jutsu and having general jutsu to end fights. Seen by their clashes and him having to counter Amateratsu and forcing Itachi into Susanoo
Taijutsu- testing his sharingan and his ability to fight close combat.
I can keep going but that was all this was to me. A final teacher to student moment where the gift for completing was the MS.
He also eradicated Oro so he would seek his own form. Its symbolic of him needing his own strength from now on and no one elses. Itachi can die in peace and Sasuke can return to the leaf as a hero, asset and know that the Uchiha clan legacy lives through Sasuke.
My headcanon: if Sasuke wasnt good enough I dont think Itachi would have allowed himself to die at Sasukes hands. He would have beat Sasuke and just died. Whether he gets the MS would be unknown but I dont think he would have allowed Sasuke to believe he was the victor otherwise.
Itachi be like "get stronger so i can die already"
Duel of fates on the guitar is badass
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I think Obito vs Bee, Naruto, Kakashi, & Guy might be a good one. Or Sakura & Chiyo vs Sasori.
That fight was unironically GOATED even though it didnt have as much..
The feats Obito pulls off in that fight are crazy. Fighting 4 high Kage level opponents casually.
@@arsenewenger4847nicca HE DIDNT DO shit 😂😂😂😂 yall Obito fans be glazing the air 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Obitos shit you know that right? What AP does the sh!t bag has ?
Sasuke arguably has the highest BIQ in the verse, the improvisation is crazy
Wait Itachi actually has insane stamina and chakra reserves wtf. 3 shadow clones, 3 genjutsu, tsukiyomi, 1 fireball, 2-5 amaterasus, susanoo to block Kirin and held it up to beat up Orochimarus strongest form while blind and still put a seal in Sasuke after all that. I think thats more than enough to beat up Obito
Maybe if itachi was healthy. Remember that Obito has insane durability, just look at what he does to the village at 15 years old. If it weren't for Minato, Obito could have solo'ed the whole village.
Itachi never had low chakra reserves and it doesn’t state this anywhere. However his stamina from illness was affected so he couldn’t fight for long periods.
@@rkvlegacy9206The only time Itachi’s chakra is mentioned is when Karin (a sensor) states that Itachi’s Shadow Clone had “enormous chakra” and she thought Sasuke was in danger because of it.
Bear in mind, she’s been around Orochimaru. So when she says “enormous chakra” she has a pretty good standard to judge by.
And this is just ONE Shadow Clone meant to give Sasuke a message, not to fight. This implies Itachi has at bare-minimum Orochimaru-level chakra, if not much more.
Nobody would ever claim Orochimaru has low-chakra lol.
@@papaofthejohns5882 Good point. Itachi just didn’t take any fight seriously
@@alejandrorangel7668 how does him using the nine tails to attack konoha establish his durability? I don't get it
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Itachi also taught Sasuke how to get the eternal mangekyo during this fight right? he definitely knew he was going to die that day
I've always felt like the statements about Itachi sandbagging vs. Sasuke have been way played up, and/or have been retcons. People act as if Itachi could have beaten Hebi Sasuke with the same ease that he beat Kakashi or Part 1 Sasuke and I think that's absurd. I think Itachi tried his ass off to wear down Sasuke, holding back only enough so as not to kill (the same way Sasuke would hold back not to kill Deidara, and yet no one thinks Sasuke sandbagged against Deidara) and was truly, genuinely taken aback by Kirin.
Imo the fight has Itachi in the lead, then on the backfoot as Sasuke is much better than he anticipated, then in a check position when he thinks Sasuke is out of chakra, only to realize that Kirin is THAT JUTSU that literally might kill him if he doesn't go all out to defend against it.
Anything else to me is either a retcon, or a misconception about Obito's words. Words which are heavily biased and that come from someone who generally has really shit power-scaling takes, such as when Obito believed Amaterasu-only Sasuke could take on the 5 Kage at once with ease and take hostages. Even Itachi isn't fucking doing that. Obito, what crack were you smoking to think that was ever a possibility?
It’s kind of crazy that sasuke actually would’ve just killed itachi prematurely had he not to been so theoretical with Kirin. Not only does sasuke literally explain Kirin to itachi, but he gives itachi SO MUCH time to react to it lol. And itachi BARELY even reacts to Kirin with prep time. If sasuke said nothing and just launched Kirin it would’ve been GG. And It’s ironic because sasuke isn’t normally one for theatrics but this was his big moment so I get it lol.
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Another banger!! I love your breakdowns!!!
love the videos Six, keep up the good work!
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Dual of Fates in the background is perfect
Itachi made it look like Sasuke won by using the precise amount of chakra needed to exhaust Sasuke's chakra and exhaust his own while having enough left over to seal Oro. He had that fight planned down to the minute details and had control of the fight the entire time, like a rehearsed stage play. No one has a better combination of long term planning, combat prep, and quick thinking feats than Itachi.
I be enjoying these types of analysis
ONG w analysis. i lowkey forgot everything about the naruto vs pain fight so could you do that one next?
Oh, I didn't notice that the forehead tap was what sealed the Amaterasu into Sasuke's eye!
Makes sense, I never stopped to think about when Itachi rigged such a metaphysical transplant.
7 views 31 seconds bro fell off
dude lmao
I thought these types of comments died of already. Stop!
Lmao
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It’ll never stop
Hey, we both made videos about this topic and came to a similar conclusion
glad to see we agree!
Low-key. Scaling orochinaru too. You could conclusively insist that without orochinaru's knowledge. Sasuke wouldn't have the means to perpetuate his proponent power. That's why we believe Sasuke could take on the paths but not tendo
Yeah what's crazy is thab sasuke wouldn't even need his susano, And Sasuke didn't even have ems
Edit: to add it only takes someone within proximity or someone who's a vessel (boruto-momo, Sasuke-orochumaru, naruto-kurama/minato) to break any level of genjutsu, even frog song!
hmm
I like how you used Duel of the Fates as the music. Very on theme.
Itachi not getting damage by the chidori if he got hit is plot tbh not to mention sasuke was nowhere close to full power when fighting itachi he was on low Chakra reserve when they where fighting
And itachi was sick and not trying.
Everything is plot bro you have to off it
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Hebi Sasuke said to Orochimaru that he is stronger than him, and later, he said to Karin that he won because of Orochimaru's illness. 2 contradicting statements that should be taken with a grain of salt. I believe that Sasuke was actually stronger than Orochimaru (at least the one with the sealed arms), and Hebi Sasuke is definitely stronger than Orochimaru.
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5:30 I choose to interpret that statement as: the most powerful physical attack that a sharingan is capable of
@@kaztheunbreakable In the databooks. Amaterasu is called the strongest fire release jutsu and Tsukuyomi is known as one of the Ultimate Genjutsu. Amaterasu burns the target until there is nothing left while Tsukuyomi can break the mind and is the only Genjutsu that can directly kill the opponent.
@ sure but Madaras fire style that took an entire platoon of water style users to counter is eating itachis amaterasu for lunch so that statement needs to be taken with more than just a grain of salt
Cope harder. It's the strongest physical attack period. So yes, Itachi solos your fav.
@@kaztheunbreakable Amaterasu would eat Madara’s flames and Water style doesn’t negate Amaterasu which is as hot as the Sun’s surface. Madara had raw power but Amaterasu is literally the strongest fire release shown in the series. If Itachi was in Madara’s place and used Amaterasu more people would be dead as the flames would spread and inflict thousands of Shinobi unlike Madara’s which can be extinguished by Water jutsu
@@rkvlegacy9206 nah youre putting too much faith in a databook statement. If madara used amaterasu in that moment instead of regular fire then yes it would be stronger, but replace sasuke with madara in the fire v fire moment and madara is overpowering
Could you cover Sasuke vs the 5 Kage Summit Run in this same style of video?
I feel like all of Sasuke's fights need this analysis
One possible explanation for amaterasu not burning the trees, perhaps amaterasu only burns things that have chakra networks. I don't remember if in Naruto they state wether or not all living things have chakra or not. But if isn't stated. I think it's a possible reason.
What if Sasuke had awakened his MS when he fought Itachi? So let's split this into 2 rounds, Sasuke with his feats against Killer B (Taka Sasuke) and 5 Kage Summit Sasuke. How well would these Sasukes do against sick Itachi?
Taka sasuke is stated to weaker because he hasn’t fully recovered from his battle itachi along with having him having to change his fighting style because of the removal of the curse mark so he does worse than hebi, but 5ks sasuke does really better with him constantly acclimating with his Ms and grow stronger but unfortunately still gets beat if itachi was going all out because sasuke doesn’t fully catch up to itachi until he awakens the eternal mangekyou sharingan
@@Afro_uchiha hes saying curse mark sasuke with ms, thats wayy stronger than bee fight sasuke
Sasuke was stated to surpass Itachi ONLY when he received the EMS in the war arc. So Taka/5KS Sasuke is still weaker
If Itachi wanted to he would destroy 5 kage summit
@@huntershurley4331yeah and even with EMS people are still questioning if he did early on in the war arc as we see edo Itachi massively out perform sasuke
I’m surprised by how little Sasuke actually used his curse mark 2.
Same
9:40 also dont forget itachi sent clones out in advance, so its highly probable he didnt start the fight at full chakra capacity either
I think about this fight more than any other fights in anime
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The coolest thing about this story is that. After Sauske's victory he adds his own Unique Mangekyou Power to Itachi's newly transplanted eye's because of their Kekkei Genkai traditions in their clan
So I have this idea. Can Itachi and Pain individually solo the rest of the Akatsuki (not counting Obito and Zetsu). So Pain and Itachi will individually fight Deidara, Sasori, Hidan, Kakuzu, Kisame, and Konan as a team. It's 1v6, don't tell me it's not fair for Itachi and Pain, they're the top 3 Akatsuki members after all...
Pain can easily do it. The man defeated the entirety of the hidden leaf village (the strongest village) and Naruto w/sage mode barely won due to having a bunch of advantages. I don't see Itachi doing it since he will run out of stamina before he can finish the job. 1v1s, itachi sweeps all of them but as a unit it would be too much for him.
This is a very unfair fight. For the rest of the members
If ? Big If ?
If Itachi had Curse of Hatred instead of Will of Fire, he could Kill all Akatsuki,
@@alejandrorangel7668I think the moment me whips out the MS it’s over for atleast half of them. He could literally kill Hidan no problem. Deidara already got put in a genjutsu so he gets clapped.
The real problem is going to be kakazu with the 5 hearts, konan with possible prep and maybe sasori. But even then, I don’t see konan getting past genjutsu, and if he needs to he can whip out the totsuka blade and really break them niggas down. Oh and amateratsu.
Pain could, Itachi could as well but his chances are extremely slim compared to Pain’s.
Is this a reupload? I remember seeing this video before
Itachi has some of the best moments ever and his brother is right up there with him.
Could’ve sworn that was fugaku till you showed the full pic 😂
11:00 Correct. Sasuke when adult has put Amaterasu on his weapons and people before. But for the knives that stuck
Sakura? When he grabbed those and hit them with Amaterasu, they instantly disappeared (extinguished I guess).
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Sasuke really did his thing, still he was more recourseful in the diedara fight
Do Obito vs Kakashi in the Kamui. It is one of my favorite shippuuden fights along with Itachi vs Sasuke.
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Please breakdown how itachi countered kirin. Whether it's yatamirror or susanoo, full body or ribs cage etc
Such a awesome story!!!
@Six in regards to the rigged shuriken itachi should be more than able to manuever in the air like he did in the genjutsu when he threw sasuke.
So that is probably why zetsu said he'd be able to dodge it instead of chalking it up to itachi suffering from using tsukuyomi.
Makes me wonder my how this fight would have gone if Sasuke had actually unlocked his MS
You got a video on Sasuke vs Naruto the last fight?
Naruto vs pain would be a great fight to analyze like this
10 minutes and only 235 views… bro fell off harder than when Choji put in a run against the Deva path and let down the village😢
Would you do a high IQ analysis for jjk fights?
Great video. I dont think Itachi has more stamina than sasuke, hes just more efficient at using it. I mean, he is terminally ill and sasuke is literally indra incarnate, there just aint no way.😂
Kabuto also confirms Amaterasu being the strongest jutsu. This is despite seeing Nagato and everyone else in the war.
Itachi uses partial susanno against Sasuke when he first sees him again in the war, he uses it to save Sasuke from Kabuto. Ninja storm also claim that he could use full Suano and I believe it’s Canon.
i just a know a six&nchammer collab would be peak naruto content
How u know that?
@@stephenking2895because he said that & people obviously agree
I feel like itachi didn’t hold back tsukyomi to sandbag but to just conserve chakra and his eyesight. A full power tsukyomi would just work against his goals. He’d go blind prematurely, and I feel like if sasuke couldn’t break out he’d just end the genjutsu himself. But sasuke broke out. And the databook makes it seem like he could’ve done it regardless. Sasuke after this point at the 5ks is a genjutsu master so I don’t wanna say that applies to this sasuke but u feel like it’s worth mentioning.
Sasuke broke out tsukyomi like the databook said, i agree with you
Genjutsu master is a bit of a stretch tho
Guys like itachi and obito still had better genjutsu feats
@ajayimoses2495 sasuke sealed kuruma in naruto, people always try to downplay that not sure why
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He didn’t “seal” kurama he used sharingan to surpress his influence via genjutsu
Jinchurriki who aren’t perfect are weak to sharingan genjutsu
@ajayimoses2495 I wont debate the specifics, it was still impressive and kuruma himself stated sasukes aura is similar to madara
so idk man his doujutsu kinda nice for 3 tomeo he maximized its potential pre ms is what im saying
8:03 did sasuke see zetsu😂😂 he’s RIGHT there not even tryna hide
woah I’m hella early this time
Swag-Kage would be proud
Absolute peak
7:20
Well he When sasuke used Kirin (I think that’s what it’s called) Itachi pulls out his susano instantly, we don’t see that thing manifesting at all, It’s just there all of a sudden.
Reading and watching this fight altered my brain chemistry as a kid. This shit was so fucking hard to 13 year old me
Itachi was almost blind and about to die, but he managed to last long in the fight
12:55 I've been a long time Naruto fan, known about this fight forever and whatnot...but never, not ONCE have I heard anyone mention that when Itachi is placing his finger on Sasuke's forehead, that is him imparting Amaterasu onto him. Wouldn't this just be a fan theory? I mean, I'll take it...but I've never seen anyone else bring this up before
7:18 itachi destroyed kabuto’s cave entrance with a susanoo arm, also he could’ve just used the susanoo ribcage
Obito vs kakashi next would be peak
Anything is better than JJk glaze. Especially glazing of an actual good show.
Itachi beated snake man because of genjutsu not because he was stronger
And also comparing itachi who had full chakra vs sasuke who had lost than half his chakra is not a fair comparison
Bro he blized oruchmaru when he was blind and couldn't use genjutsu. That's just being stronger😂
Not only that, itachi was not at full chakra. He deadass sent out clones and was making moves to prep for the fight and things leading up after it.
So even tho orochimaru prior to this has I’m pretty sure two separate statements where he says itachi is stronger than him and us seeing him genjutsu and bully orochimaru you think he’s only stronger because of genjutsu and itachi sent out two clones before the fight has ninja cancer and spammed his strongest jutsus and still outlasted sasuke in chakra on top of sasuke having the CM and oro boosting his overall chakra it’s a more than fair comparison
Sasuke put up a better fight than Kakashi ever did against Itachi.
I mean at this point in the series Sasuke is stronger than Kakashi
I think it could be summed up to Itachi knows about the Hydra from orochimaru's time in the Akatsuki because they were partners and Itachi is the type of person to ask about people's abilities to see how they could work off of one another. Good example is juzo I believe his name is his first partner and kisame as well but not so much.
Edit: btw who wins 4 tail Naruto or Manda? Say orochimaru summoned him against Naruto but left it to Manda.
Itachi: your training is useless, I can beat up without even harming you
(Later)
Sasuke: I got Kirin out and took 0 damage, YOU SEE THIS ITACHI, I’VE EXPOSED TO THE WORLD THAT YOUR A FRAUD, NOW I HAVE ME REVENGE
(1 sealed orochimaru later)
Sasuke: wtf where did all this damage come from
7:15 Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Itachi use partial Susano'o (specifically one arm) twice? Once when he's blocking *Sasuke's* partial Susano'o arm when they're passing through the forest, and then again when he's protecting Sasuke from Kabuto's attack.
4:38 at some point obi tells him you did not see through any of his illusion he created thats all you need to know
Itachi's amateratsu falls onto oro's snake and kills it? so what you said at 10:50 doesn't seem super accurate. (chapter 394 page 3-4)
Itachi possibly tanking chidori is solid reasoning though and obviously a compelling case for itachi's chakra, even while sick, was shown. Also hinata technically described itachi's chakra as 'very powerful'
Tbh if you ignore speed scaling which is probably exaggerated in many cases, you can make the argument that hebi sasuke easily has the arsenal needed to take down minato, hiruzen or even most other kage.
Mmm
Nah, sasuke is not on that level yet.
@@shadowuchiha4311 explain lmao, kirin > chidori > rasengan
It's crazy to think that this whole fight Itachi was like 80% blind.. if dude was not sick and had his vision this fight wouldn't even be fair😂
3:53 there’s no other interpretation other than sauske broke out of tsykyomi. It’s crazy how sasuke is the only character in the show that gets this downplayed. Itachi did not hold back his tsykyomi that interpretation it’s completely headcanon.
7:22 I always thought itachi could have just done some kinda of spin, or twist mis air to dodge the shrapnel.
What surface is he using to create that momentum? He can't really spin in the air if he didn't intend to before he jumped
@tonymack4120 I seen plenty anime where a mid air dodge or spin was prefomred. I even seen ski divers do spins and flips and twist.
Tsukuyomi is a straight up coma or insta death if used at full capacity
That goes directly contrary to itachi’s motives so he definitely held back..
A full powered Tsukuyomi would make no sense
yo 6 my guy, I usually think asking for this as a comment is cringe but you NEED to make a video explaining why sukuna doesn't beat gojo without the 10 shadows man. The reddit community has been losing their minds saying insane shit, talking about sukuna mid diffs gojo, sukuna woulda won easier without the ten shadows and shit. People are going CRAZY. SAVE THEM
People need to remember that Itachi is the Genjutsu God nut his story is already gone because its Naruto Pt.1 & Boruto has been introduced into the Zeitgeist of the the times now
And even while blind he could recognize and accurately counter a jutsu that he probably never even encountered
Goes to show his jutsu knowledge is top 3 in the verse at least
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Itachi chakra control is at a different level because he used two Sage Tools and didn't die or lose all his chakra right away
That never happens gang at all he never saw the gold and silver brothers or used the tools in the war and nothing implies these things happened before the war either
Few things.
1. I don't believe itachi held back in terms of power (abilities is a debate) because it wouldn't make sense that hes dying from a illness he had for years n it's clear that the longer the fight went his illness was progressing faster.
2. I belive in the theory that the curse mark nature energy is what allowed Sasuke to escape tsukyomi. Again it doesn't make sense that itachi used a weaker version when we haven't seen that in any other ms ability.
3. Zestu is unreliable since he doesn't know itachi like Obito n the version of itachi he's thinking about is a completely healthy itachi not on his death bed itachi
7:30 didn’t itachi use a susanoo arm to swat at Sasuke whenever he was chasing him on his way to Kabuto?
I think Sasuke missed and hit the roof which allowed Itachi to jump off of Sasuke which is why he flies out of the hole right after its made.
I wonder What that chair scales too
It's not that Itachi let Sasuke break Tsukuyomi, but his Tsukuyomi was not nearly what would be considered a "full power" Tsukuyomi, we know from the novels that it can kill and he can even incapacitate Kage level opponents with it like Kakashi (say he's Jonin all you want, but bro was considered for Hokage like 3 times before actually taking the role and was considered THE top Jonin of the Leaf), he scales back his Tsukuyomi and on top of that, he was terminally ill which was probably weakening his visual prowess to begin with. So Sasuke broke a very weak version of Tsukuyomi is the way I look at it.
On the rigged shuriken point, that was a legit hit by Sasuke, the only thing Itachi could've done like you said is summon a partial Susano'o, and you were slightly incorrect saying only Madara could do that, because we see Itachi do it as a Reanimation when he swats away Sasuke's Susano'o arm with his own in midair. So Itachi in better condition likely avoids this, but this version of Itachi was either too weak or too slow, or just didn't want to reveal the Susano'o yet at this point and was willing to take the risk of taking that hit.
The Chidori right after I don't think Itachi tanked it necessarily, I think he more or less did what he did in part 1 when Sasuke tried to run at him with Chidori and grabbed Sasuke's arm/redicted the Chidori into the ceiling, because we see the ceiling get blown to bits in the very next scene, but Itachi's momentum shifts from jumping forward to being pushed up and back so he was still pushed back by Sasuke but I don't think he tanked the Chidori directly, I think he diverted it away from himself but was still pushed back by Sasuke's momentum jumping toward him.
I remember watching this in the anime for the first time I knew it was a one character is clearly stronger situation I honestly thought Naruto or something would aid Sasuke not including orochimaru but the clear sign of holding back is his last breath not only implanting amatarasu against a bad guy obito he also flicked his forehead what did he need to kiss his forehead 😂
But if he didn't want sasuke to break out of tsukuyomi, why use it. Sasuke would of been comatose otherwise 😂
Same reason he used amaterasu, high risk high reward. He wanted to test Sasuke just as much as he wanted to deplete his chakra