Hope you see this Rabbi Singer. Wes Huff has just gone on Joe Rogan and the episode will be airing shortly. I’d love for you to do a review of it or even just a video rebutting him as he is highly regarded by Christians as an expert on Hebrew or the entire Bible more generally. Maybe just maybe we can even hope for a debate between you two! All the best and Happy Chanukah!
Yes! I've proposed this in several comments sections on Huff's 'takedowns', and would love to see him finally encounter an actual authority on these things!
@seekers-of-righteousness MythVision Podcast - Wes Huff Is LYING Like They Accused Billy Carson! Watch the whole thing its absolutely brutal. They expose every inch of this Wes guy.
I don't want to get complicated either but if i am not mistaken, Jews are the most atheist/agnostic folks on the planet but Rabbi Tobi is fixated on Christians. Am I wrong? If so, lend me some of your chosen higher intellect.
Matthew 3:14 John tried to dissuade him, with the words, 'It is I who need baptism from you, and yet you come to me!' 3:15 But Jesus replied, 'Leave it like this for the time being; it is fitting that we should, in this way, do all that uprightness demands.' Then John gave in to him.
I was raised in the Church of Christ, and they always taught us that jesus was baptized as an example. Im so glad i learn the truth, through your help.
As a modern day person, it can be hard to envision what life was like 2,000-3,000 years ago when a lot of religious writings emerged. As a Christian (and biblical studies major), I really appreciate these videos… although probably not for the same reason Rabbi Singer intends. I appreciate them because these discussions bring to life the tension Jesus and the Pharisees, Paul and the Jewish leaders, etc. that is thematic in the New Testament. As well as outlining tensions between early Christian sects.
@ very good response! I love it. But I have a different view of the trinity than a lot of Christians. I think of God the Father as what you would think of God. I think of Holy Spirit as a verb (attributing God’s actions). I think of Jesus as God taking in human form (as He did to Abraham). All one being…. just us humans having different names for the different forms. But I agree on a couple things: we should not worship a human and Christians misunderstand a lot of things.
@@I.PittyTheFoolwhy wasn't that doctrine in the old testament? Also, the old testament doesn't mention the messiah dying for the sin of the world. The Bible also doesn't mention a second coming. Abraham was met with angels, not God. On many places, people called angels as gods.
You see, the law/prophets did say a forerunner of Christ in the spirit of Elijah had to come. That was j the b. And it was j's mission to baptize people for the forgiveness of sin. If jesus who knew no sin was later to be killed as a convict by the law of moses could be counted as an atonement, why not a baptism for the forgiveness of sin be counted 'to fulfil all righteousness'? So jesus did fulfil the law AND the prophets. Besides, the law as the law only as that of moses is the erroneous view of the jews who rejected Christ. The law of the Lord is what/where the spirit of the Lord leads and is. During the time of the prophets, people supposedly kept the law, but God rejected their fake keeping of such outward fakery n instead sent the prophets to course correct his people. In this case prophecy takes precedence n the people ought to do as the prophets led. One can't reject the prophet that God himself has sent n be claiming to obey some law, obviously a dead written code bereft of spirit. Jesus is that one sent for you. Accept him as your savior n Messiah. Stop resisting he who comes to you in the name of the Lord n say 'blessed is he who comes with the message of God'. Cheers
Where is baptized in the law? Please give the scripture… Immersion is in the Leviticus law.. Mainly for purification not For forgiveness of sin…? Answer? Also the Hebrew Alphabet doesn’t have any J’s but the Greek and Latin Use the letter… Please review the Hebrew alphabet and you will see that there are zero J’s…
Todah Rabah Rabbi Tovia Singer for all you do! I❤ listening and learning from you. This is so great! May your father's memory forever be a blessing! May his neshama have the highest Aliyah!
When I was a teenager I was fully immersed into a lake during an Appalachian Baptist Baptism. There are concepts in Baptism; which are not found in Torah. Does or can Baptism replace The Torah's guidelines for being in relationship with G-d? I do not think so...
Taking all of the gospels into account, I had always thought it was fairly clear that JC was not divine from his birth, and that he was only divine from the moment that the holy spirit descended upon him. Until that point, he was a regular carpenter. Indeed, he could not perform miracles in his hometown because the residents did not believe in him. It was only for the last three years of his life that he was in way truly exceptional. Until this point, he was just an ordinary person.
It’s lies to some and life changing to others who become born again believers through divine providence. And unless one becomes born again they will not see the Kingdom of God John 3v3.
What contradictions, the new testament is a set of book written by different authors. They agreed on the true meaning of Christ and resurrection. It is different peoples witness, as in a modern people we all would vary on are description of something witnessed.
@jsbrads1 I have seen his videos and scholars and historian wouldn't agree. I understand he wants to protect his beliefs as we all do. But to use a false argument does not help.
@@AlexanderEalley Fair enough. No where does Yeshu' teach that in the Gospels. That's a doctorine of Sauls. No atonement can dissuade Gods hand. None. That satiates mans carnality. People go free every day, that shouldn't. Further more "forgiveness" has always come from mans hand, lest it be something else. Forgiveness has already been given, it's up to people to repent, as always. Just as Yeshu' is Lord of the Sabbath. Was the God of Abraham not that? Was he/she not corporeal as well?
Paul in Ephesus Acts 19 And it happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the inland[a] country and came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples. 2 And he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” 3 And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” They said, “Into John's baptism.” 👉4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance👈, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in[b] the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking in tongues and prophesying. 7 There were about twelve men in all. The question asker needs to dig more deeper. Miss representing what is written isn't proof of this line if thinking.
Jesus was never baptized for His sins, which He did not have any. Matthew 3:15 But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
@paulhagen1089 read all Isaiah in context in Hebrew scripture sources not English Christian mistranslations. It says clearly " nation of Israel" theJews are the suffering servant not a man God idol trinity pagan human sacrifice calvary 700+ years after Isaiah lived.
2:22 *I have read Mark ! The plot is: Absolutely nobody understands who Jesus is ! And obviously the author himself doesn't understand who Jesus is. You have a similar storyline in John, that ends with Thomas connecting the dots. Jesus is the Lord and God, the Son and Father i one. Shalom.*
I listen to the gospel of mark a few times a week then every once in a while I’ll listen to Matthew or Luke and its infuriating. Our knowledge of the early church disputes must only be a fraction of the problems going on in the church
And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. Eze 36:26
Strangely Rabby Tovia Singer conveniently omitted the fact that Mark is speaking about the heaven opening at the moment of Jesus' baptism: Mark 1:10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: 11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
He omitted it not by convenience but simply because the claim in the gospel is nonsense. Where in the Tanakh have you read that ruach (which means the spirit but also the wind) comes in a shape of a bird? Ruach descends upon people and it happens in an *invisible* way. The only visible sign is the ability to prophesy. When the spirit descended upon Saul, he prophesied. There were no doves flying around. If Jesus was the "beloved Son" then it means Jesus is not G-d since he needs to be told the words by the only G-d and he is called a son- a creature, not the Creator. Secondly, we know that John's parents were blameless (did not sin). Was not G-d pleased with them? Were they not beloved by Him? Sure they were! More so than a man of zero lineage (no mortal father= no lineage) who claimed to be of the tribe of Judah and the king of Israel- which was a big, fat lie. A man who taught his disciples to hate their mothers and their fathers, thus breaking the 5th Commandment? Surely, the All-knowing G-d knew that Jesus was a sinner.
The text reads that *he* (Jesus) saw all this happen, and that *he* (Jesus) heard the voice, meaning that this is yet another personal, unfalsifiable claim being made by *Jesus.* John certainly did not observe any of this supposed phenomena occurring, as he later questions Jesus through his own disciples, “Are you the one who is to come, or are we to look for another?” (Matthew 11:3)
Baptism is an allegory for death and resurrection. Going under water is death, getting up from the water is resurrection. By getting baptized, Jesus steps into the role that he is going to fulfill, preparing to die before getting resurrected. And by getting baptized ourselves we follow Him in dying and getting resurrected. Romans 6:8: Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him.
As for naked man fleeing: are things not taken away and exposed? There are those who run away from revelations of exposure. King David exposed himself and danced. Scripture contains signs. 8:56 “Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.” Luke 16:29-31 KJV
At the crucifixion Mary went home with John the disciple. Why wouldn’t Luke possibly talk with Mary, yet Mary even share with John and other disciples and Luke being a physician definitely would want to have and be detailed. Things come in progressions of revelations. 5:55 Plus I think physicians know how and do ask questions to get to know more to understand.
According to the Bible, John the Baptist was not the same person as Elijah, but he came in the "spirit and power of Elijah": In Matthew 11:14, Jesus says that John the Baptist is "the Elijah who is to come" as prophesied by Isaiah. Now why did sinless Jesus got baptized because He represented the entire sinful humanity. Why did Jesus did not defended himself in front of Pilate because He represented the entire sinful humanity, the very purpose He came.
One of the prerequisites for the Messiah is for Elijah to announce his coming. Jesus says John the Baptist fulfills that role, but John the Baptist denies being Elijah when asked directly, which is a HUGE problem for Christianity. Christians say that John fulfills the role "spiritually" or "plutonically" which is the typical cop out, but the Hebrew Bible doesn't leave room for such a reinterpretation.
Elijah will come in the end of days to announce the second coming of Jesus. Maybe John denied it, because the second coming of Christ wasn't happening yet or he simply didn't know it. Amos denied that he was a prophet, but still he was a prophet. [Amos 7:14] And Amos answered and said to Amaziah, “I am not a prophet and I am not a son of a prophet, but I am a herdsman and I am one taking care of sycamore trees."
@@frankfibich7152 John 1:21 'They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.”' Amos didnt say "Im not Amos". John directly says he is not Elijah, leaving no wiggle room. Next verse in Amos 7:15: "BUT the Lord took me from tending the flock and said to me, ‘Go, prophesy to my people Israel’" Amos’s was conveying the idea that God can choose anyone to be His messenger, regardless of their social status or profession. "Elijah will come in the end of days to announce the second coming of Jesus." This is a tacit admission that Jesus failed the prerequisite then, you are contradicting the words of Jesus regarding John/Elijah
@ts8960 no I simply said, since Amos didn't see himself as prophet, John could've been unaware that he came with the spirit of Elijah. Nowhere in the Bible it says, that he needs to be aware of it. Jesus knew who he was and that's enough actually.
@frankfibich7152 john the baptist was aware of elijah's role from the hebrew bible, given the context of john1:21, and he outright plainly and confidently denied any association with elijah. He didnt even say he came in the spirit of elijah (which is what luke said, but this contradicts the hebrew bible which says it must be the literal Elijah, not some spirit or placebo) The whole point of elijah is to verify the messiah, but apperantly john wasnt aware he himself was tasked as elijah? This is all a big mess and all of it is absurd
I appreciate your knowledge and well thought out answers. The way it was explained to me recently, is that Jesus fully came into his divine power after being baptized. It reminded me of the first gospel I had heard when I was young, back when the Holy Spirit was a ghost. It was that God spoke to Jesus and said “now you are my begotten son”.
Funny, as you read the gospels in order Jesus becomes bigger and bigger. At first he is Gods son at his baptism, then at his birth, then in the last gospel he is Gods son from the beginning of creation. 🤔 Looks like the theology was evolving as it went along. Paul doesn't even mention Jesus' miraculous birth. The whole story is an invention written about 40+ years after Jesus' death and very Greco-Roman in its flavour. Jesus could never be the O.T Messiah. He didn't fulfil one prophecy about the coming Messiah and he wasn't from the line of David as Messiah has to be, his dad was God 🙃. So he's disqualified straight away. The Jews were right to reject. I'm not a christian anymore, not a Jew either. Religion is a racket ad far as I'm concerned and the sooner it disappears the sooner we will be able to live in peace. Aka the famous words of John Lennon. ❤ from uk
Curiously enough I can remember that actual question about John the Baptist baptising Jesus being asked in Catholic School . To the best of my memory it was said -Jesus agreed to be Baptised simply to acknowledge the great work of John and go through the motions so to speak as an example for others ! I am not a religious person - just interested as it's history and many do actually take this stuff seriously ?
John the Baptist was like a new Élie, preparing the way for the lord, he is the voice in the desert. His birth was a miracle a little bit like Isaac for Abraham and Sarah. As the cousin of Jesus, he probably stayed or was a neighbor of the essenians (écrit de la mer morte). In mediaval time for gnostics or (initié aux symboles) he was considered very important for many believers as Leonardo Da Vinci.
also identified as the last prophet of the old testament, because Jesus was right in the good historic time for the promised messiah. that is why Christ has so many enemies or antichrist. They are blind to the truth, exactly how yeshua foretold to his disciples (friends and students).
This question isn't a new one and is answered in the gospel. John explicitly acknowledges that Jesus does not need to be baptised because Jesus is without sin but two things are going on: 1. Jesus is identifying with sinners, not in the sense that he is a sinner but in the sense he is willing to be seen among sinners. He is willing to get among the dirt and grime of our sin and not be ashamed of it. 2. Jesus is leading by example. Jesus never asks his followers to do something that he wouldn't himself do. Baptism is something Jesus wants his followers to do so because it is an essential part of his church and he leads by example he was baptised
And FWIW, I agree that the fact of John baptizing people for the remission of sin blows Paul right out of the water. There's no need for a human sacrifice. Just repent, get immersed, and act righteously going forward. That's Judaism, too. See Isaiah 1: wash yourselves, get clean, stop doing bad, learn to do good. This stands in stark contrast to the need for Jesus to die for your sins.
If you seriously think that, your theology of sin is wrong. Sin is worse than you imagine. Your sin is not some little sin that isn't that bad. It's outright rebellion and insurrection against a holy and just God. It is you saying I don't want you God in charge. I am in control now. That is why none of us deserve heaven and none of us by ourselves can be near God
@@pgpython As an eternal lesson for all generations, God instructed Cain about the ability to repent, which is in the hands of every person: to repent and return to God at any time one desires and makes the decision to do so, and God will forgive him.
"Then Yeshua came from the Galil to the Yarden to be immersed by Yochanan. But Yochanan tried to stop him. “You are coming to me? I ought to be immersed by you!” However, Yeshua answered him, “Let it be this way now, because we should do everything righteousness requires.” Then Yochanan let him." [Matthew 3:15..CJB] One thing that bothers Jesus is self righteousness, and boastful displays of spiritual superiority as exemplified in the parable of the Pharisee and Tax Collector; "To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable:.." [ref Luke 18:9..] Also later on Jesus commanded believers to become baptized in the name of Father, Son, & Spirit (Matt 28:19). Therefore Jesus was also setting a good example and being a good leader to His followers by allowing himself to be baptized by John.
When Jesus came to be baptized, John the Baptist initially objected, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?" John recognized Jesus' superior spiritual status and felt unworthy to baptize Him, believing that Jesus should be the one baptizing him instead. Jesus responded by saying, "Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness". After this exchange, John consented and baptized Jesus. So, fulfilment of righteousness, identification with sinners, public declaration... also, notice that all three of the Holy Trinity were present which speaks to witness. It was also a formal anointing. Wrt John the Baptist "rock star" status, in John 3:30 he said, "He (Jesus) must increase, but I must decrease". And that is exactly what happened. What year is it now? Why? Jesus.
We know that Jn 3:30 is unhistorical, as it directly contradicts John the Baptist’s questioning to Jesus from prison through his disciples as recorded in Matthew 11:3, “Are you the one who is to come, or are we to look for another?”
@ ??? He’s in prison and the messiah is leaving him there so he’s questioning things! You’d do the same thing only you’d have a hissy fit! That’s a terrible argument LOL. Not even a nice try! 😂😂😂
@@TheNortonio Chronologically, John the Baptist’s imprisonment ended his baptist ministry. Had he ever acknowledged Jesus as being the anointed one (messiah) who was to come, why would he then later doubt Jesus’ legitimacy while imprisoned? Employing Occam's razor, the simplest explanation is that John had only heard of Jesus, and that no such acknowledgment to Jesus’ self-assumed messiahship was ever made by John. Therefore, John 3:30 is apologetic in nature, not historical.
@@GabrielEddy You are speculating and you are doubting. My speculation is not from doubt. Think of it this way, he baptized Jesus and witnessed the voice (this is my son in whom I am well pleased) and the descending dove. All was well. The messiah has arrived... then, Jesus just walked around preaching and healing but not even trying to overthrow the Romans to free Israel. They didn't understand that. Then, on top of that, John was arrested. Here he is in jail while the supposed messiah has arrived. He was confused about the whole state of affairs and so he asked, "hey, are you really the one then?". Jesus reply reassured him. The take away from that is that this world will be destroyed and a new one will be made. This world is not our home it is temporary until the time which the Father has appointed. Until then we will be persecuted and we will die. Jesus WILL NOT disappoint on the last day though. You can rest assured of that!
Great points. I thought you were gonna attack John the Baptist himself… what can we actually know about the guy? Was he a good guy who was a prophet calling Israel to repentance before the destruction?
John the Baptist didn't believe that jesus is the Messiah. "A later generation " A massive difference between repentance and fake forgiveness. Blessed be The God of Jewish Faith Hashem ✡️.
1Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” 2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” 4“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Sure seems to me John compliments the baptism. “And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.” John 1:32-34 KJV “And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.” John 1:31 KJV
It's not that Yeshua "needed" to be baptized at the start of His ministry, but He was setting the example for us, as Christians, showing us for all time that we should follow Him in all things from beginning to end. As such, the Christian life BEGINS (just as Christ's ministry began) with the baptism by water of which afterward comes its more intended effect in the even more important baptism of the Holy Spirit. Simple. No need to tear down Christ for being the Lord. If the question then becomes why did Yeshua have need of the Holy Spirit at the start of His public ministry, shall not the Messiah have need of Power to complete a ministry that moves to undo Satan's own supernatural power in this world? And consider His works that have moved so many to this very day and have for centuries. Yeshua died, rose again, and is seated at the right hand of the Father. This is the Truth that has been shown of what we, as emissaries of Christ (and future Elohim; God with His children) are to do in our own public ministry when we take up our cross in His name and overcome the world and its prince. In this, God has made a supernatural Way for us to be partakers in the inheritance of a Life that far transcends Satan's temporal rule of a world marked with sin and death. No one comes to the Father but through His Son, even as it was the Father Himself who has designated it so. Denying it changes nothing. Denying the Sun for the moon doesn't make the Sun shine less.
@5:24 paraphrase "Luke is the only one who says Jesus and John are cousins." True, and not only that, but the author of John didn't seem to know that plot point because he has John not know who Jesus is, despite being his cousin and living within walking distance of him according to Luke.
Shows the story is all made up. I've no idea how it's lasted over 2000 years or why people read this and still believe it. But then again, I did until I decided to scrutiny it more and left the mythologies behind me at 33 yrs old. It should really have been earlier but I was a brainedwashed thoughtco trolled jw.
Just as Joshua crossed the Jordan with the priests first and the ark, AFTER THEY WERE CIRCUMCISED...just as Elijah crossed with Elisha, and John baptized Yashua. Its the form of circumcision. He doesn't mention anything about his parents and the angel and what happened, because he doesn't believe it, and he probably doesn't see its relevance. But trust me, its super important because there is a Moses/Joshua thing happening here, a transfer from Levi to Judah, just as Paul says a transfer of the priesthood that had always been levitical, but now was from Judah. john is the moon, Yashua is the sun, and the stars are actually the 12 constellations or the 12 apostles...
It is possible to be tempted by things but to not succumb. Also, there’s a very wide range of how tempted one might be. Jesus Christ was confronted by temptation, yet wasn’t tempted because He had complete control of Himself at all times. Yes, even when He was on the cross and willingly gave up His life. He knew what He was doing. John the Baptist was Jesus’ cousin. John had a very special role to play because he was a witness of Christ’s divinity and came to prepare the way. Mary, Joseph, John the Baptist, Jesus’ disciples, and those that followed Him all were witnesses that He lived and was the Son of Gd. He still lives and He will return at a time that Gd knows.
"He had complete control of Himself at all times." Remember when jesus created 2 bears to attack the kids that was teasing a bald man? or when he over turned the tables in a fit of rage in the temples? Was he in control then?
@@ToviaSinger1No, because Yeshua was without sin and God in the flesh. But the devil tried anyway, just like some people - who think they are so clever - cannot see that Yeshua is the Jewish messiah and savior of mankind. The old and the new covenant complement each other perfectly. One just have to open the eyes and ears properly...
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Do you not see the contradictions in these 2 verses? And still you believe the bible to be the inerrant word of god . Please without any word gymnastics please tell me how are both of these events correct? Thank you.@InTheNameOfJesusGOD
John the Baptist said I need to be Baptized by Him, whose sandal I am unfit to tie. Does not means Jesus sinned. Jesus did it as part of being the Way, to fulfill righteousness. Water baptism in Christianity should be done post salvation as a public testimony. Jesus began His public ministry after baptism. Public testimony and public ministry are the rhyming concepts here.
@@DrD2You nope, Jesus decided that way, with humility he came in our world at that turbulent time for his people. Like Jesus said, it was also his decision to give his life freely and take it back, because he received that power from his father. The best thing to do is to read and check by yourself!
Judaism expects Elijah with the Messiah, yes? Take Mark Literally, John prepares the way of the Lord. Luke, the temple visions to a priest, his son, John the Baptist, would come in the Spirit of Elijah.
Can you explain what you mean by "to fulfill righteousness", please? It makes no sense. To fulfill means to accomplish, to finish. A righteous person is somebody who keeps the Law of G-d (which Christians don't keep, saying they are above the Law). Yes, ALL the appropriate mitzvot, my friend- not picking what you like and discarding the rest as the "OT stuff". A righteous person is righteous already- there's no need to "fulfill" anything. If John and John's parents were righteous (kept the Law at all times), that means John and his parents were more worthy than Jesus (who sinned several times- your own gospels tell us plainly that he said e.g. to hate your own mother and father- a very serious sin that goes against the 5th Commandment)
@@DrD2Youend of discussion. Trying to paint a picture of something that happened in another era when you given very little information in the first place. So where did John the Baptist get his authority to free man thru Baptism?
The rock star john the Baptist would not go to a concert if no attendees showed up. Therefore he that day had a large audience for a grand performance when Jesus arrived. The grand finale was the spirit in motion and entering Jesus and the only time where God voiced himself saying this is my beloved son......".This human formality of a baptism set up a grand universe event for Jesus for many to observe it.The baptism was not about baptism but the Spirit response to his son Jesus.
The criterion of embarrassment (or dissimilarity) employed by historians tells us that if an event that the author mentions that doesn't serve their narrative agenda, but can't denied because it was already too well known as part of the story, then it it's likelihood is strengthened. Perhaps the most notable example would be Jesus' baptism. John was known to Jesus' forebear, so the fourth and latest NT gospel writer can't write him out completely, his role is reduced to a mere foil, there to signal Jesus' divine sonship and sacrificial "lamb of God 'status. Not only only is this disrespectful to historical veracity, it is also so to Jesus' own regard for John the Baptist, who was his mentor as well as his baptizer. Jesus even refers (in Q which predates Mark as Rabbi Tovia aptly points out) to John as the greatest man ever born of woman, and much more than a prophet. That's some high praise! So it's unlikely Jesus saw himself as sinless, and went to be baptized for the very reason other Jews of the time did. It didn't cleanse sin on its own, but was meant both a kind of confession of one's sinfulness and a public declaration that one was renouncing it: repentance is a promise and commitement heretofore to live a more righteous life. It's based on the traditional Jewish mikvah ritual. For the baptized, it was renewal of one's personal covenant with God. I believe that "son of God" was a symbolic designation for any person who'd undergone it, not just Jesus. The Essenes (probably John's inspiration) refer to the righteous among the Jews as "sons of Light" through whom the covenant was to be restored. Luke gives us a clue. The voice that Jesus hears at his baptism is "you are my son, in whom I am well pleased.." and this is actually echoes a psalm by David (I believe) that continues the verse with "...today I have begotten you" . The whole verse may well have been intact in Q. Later on "Son of God" was misconstrued to exclusively refer to Jesus as a literal son of God, as Christianity was influenced by Greco-Roman religion and a higher christology took the place of what we see in Mark and Q. But, we can get a pretty good idea of what Jesus himself would have preached in the Prodigal Son parable: it was as wayward children that we would be reunited with God if we only repented and embraced a better way of living. No human sacrifice required. It is through John that Jesus also meets some of his future disciples; all of them were followers of John's movement which was not only about the coming eschaton, but also there to preach the same ethical teachings normally associated with Jesus (see Luke chapter 3) basically loving, ie taking care of one's neighbor in their time of need. Essentially one was to live as though one was already living in the kingdom; a life centered around doing the right thing not merely believing it. This was the tree whose righteousness would be known by its fruit, and spared the fires of Gehenna (the annihilation of the soul) John the Baptizer gets waaay too little credit, when it was really his movement that Jesus was continuing. But both were really spokesmen for a better way of living.
I watched this video and listened to the leading question put to Rabbi Singer. I would draw Rabbi Singer’s attention to Matthew 3:15 (NIV) “15 Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented”. This is why Jesus asked to be baptised for our sake, NOT that he needed baptism. John specifically came to prepare the way of the Lord Jesus. Jesus did not latch onto John the Baptist because John was popular! Please see Luke 1:67-79. Please also read 2 Corinthians 5:21, where it says that Jesus was sinless, but God made him into sin so that we may be saved, through Jesus. And, John 1:1-18 where it starts off in the first verse (NIV) “1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”. This is referring directly to Jesus, who was the Word made flesh and dwelt amongst us (verse 14). Another point in this video - one is not sinless by keeping all the commandments. This sounds to me more like a robot following instructions to the letter. Jesus said that the supreme commandment was to ‘love God with all of one’s heart, soul, mind and strength; then love one’s neighbour as oneself’. The race to perfection is through RELATIONSHIP and is a living prayer.
very good, thank you for your comment, well exposed. This is the toughest part for non-believers about Yeshua. both for muslim and jewish believers. Torah knowing God in spirit, Bible Word of God amongs us explaining how to make relationship with God (father and son) and charity
Did he really? Matt 11: 2Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
and rabbis still believe a JOHN will Precede Messiah-- and Daniel 9 does say these 6 things in verses 24-27 listed in verse 24 will occur within 490 or 483 Years and 🖤BEFORE🖤 BEFORE 🖤 BEFORE🖤 jeru and temple 🖤🖤DESTROYED... all this does Point to YESHUA❤❤
Flavius Josephus for one. He won't be Rabbi Tovias favourite though. ❤ But a good historian ( a turncoat Jew who sided with Rome - I can just see the Rabbi spit if he reads this 😂) Loves ya Rabbi Tovia. I've learnt a lot from you since leaving religion. ❤
The narrative of the “transition” from John the Baptist to Jesus in the Gospels is very odd. John is sent to prison by Herod Antipas due to John’s criticism of his marriage to Herodias, even though Herod perceives John as a righteous man. It is odd that Jesus, in his newly assigned take over and gaining prominence, never made appeals for John’s release. Then after several months in prison, Herodias’ daughter, Salome, calls for the head of John the Baptist when she could have asked for anything else, and still nothing from Jesus. The narrative reeks of behind-the-scenes details of transitioning a movement from John the Baptist to Jesus, and getting John out of the picture.
Only a priest can inspect a sacrifice before it can be sacrificed. John was prophesied in:::: (ISIAH 40:3-8 in the tanakh. Before Isiah was sentenced to death accused of being a false prophet.) John’s priesthood was passed down to him by his father Zachariah. This is why John looked at yeshua and said “Here is the lamb of God who will take the sins away from the world.” Only a priest can do this according to the Torah. (Isiah 40:3-8 in the tanakh) Right at the river Jordan the crossing point to the promise land.
Yeshua said John the Baptist was the reincarnation of Elijah during the transfiguration. Nobody reads it, though. Psalm 82 tells of multiple gods, but Christians and Jews won't teach it properly and terminate/ostracize people who do. Matt 10 is when they tried to terminate Yeshua for preaching it.
Markan priority is speculative. The early Church historians thought Matthew wrote first. ( Mathean priority) Markan priority is a later development. Of course the Jewish followers of Jesus wouldve written in Hebrew. We have mulitple attestations from early church historians who qoute from the "Hebrew Gospel of Matthew" aka 'Gospel of the Hebews" Theres an argument to be made that Mark is an epitome of Matthew and/or Luke as well. And no Pauls writings dont predate the gospels as some like to claim
1:6 John wore a garment of camel-skin, and he lived on locusts and wild honey. 1:7 In the course of his preaching he said, 'After me is coming someone who is more powerful than me, and I am not fit to kneel down and undo the strap of his sandals. 1:8 I have baptised you with water, but he will baptise you with the Holy Spirit.' 1:9 It was at this time that Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptised in the Jordan by John. 1:10 And at once, as he was coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens torn apart and the Spirit, like a dove, descending on him. 1:11 And a voice came from heaven, 'You are my Son, the Beloved; my favour rests on you.'
@@TboneWTF I don't see the connection with my comment. But that aside, why would I want to prove anything ? Everything is divine, because everything comes form and happens in God. Jesus realized that more than the average person, but in principle and in potential he was no different than you or I.
@ "why would I want to prove anything ? " Don't you want people to believe you? isn't it important to tell the truth? if so than you should want to provide evidence for your claims. If I told you that unicorns are real would you believe me or want evidence?
@ " Everything is divine, because everything comes form and happens in God. " You just made an unfounded claim. I don't believe what you said is true. Now you need to provide evidence to prove what you said is credible and true. can you do that? if not than why should anyone take what you say seriously?
@@TboneWTF I reacted to your statement that I could not prove that Jesus was divine without citing the Bible. Again, why would I want to prove that? And then, as if citing a collection of cultural texts could prove anything.
5:15 What the Rabbi is saying is that this fictional pacifist Jesus was added into the story of John the Baptist to usurp the power of the messianic leader, John. Some of the Israelites were waiting for a messianic leader who would free them from the Romans.
Jesus got baptized because he wanted to set an example of what his followers should do to wash away their sins that’s why Christian means Christlike. We follow his example. He did not have any sense but wanted to show what to do.
This is a disingenuous question and answer. It's clearly addressed in the very same gospel. Jesus was without sin that's why John asked Jesus why he wanted to be baptized. Nobody every said Jesus needed to be baptized. He was baptized to fulfill righteousness, to be associated with mankind and to be a public example for others. These are clearly stated in the gospels. and explained many times. Why would God come as a human and not live as a human should? What would be the point? The fact that there are things missing in the different accounts of Jesus life give more credibility to them, not less. Ask any detective what they would think if every witness to crime made the exact statement. It would be proof that they were rehearsed, because not every witness is going to see and hear the same things. That is reality.
Of course Jesus didn't 'need' a baptism - he undertook it out of humility. 'Blameless' doesn't mean sinless as the rabbi asserts. That's disingenuous to say that the gospels want to 'attach' Jesus to John. John himself calls Jesus the lamb of God. John's whole purpose is to prepare the way for the Messiah.
Simple answer is that Jesus' baptism was representative of something other than repentance. Also, Jesus is NOT God Almighty, he is the son of God Almighty.
We christians read all four goepels. But we never come acrose any contradictions on the divinity, humaness, crusifiction, death, burial and resurection of Jesus. The details of some events may differ but they never contradict.
John, who heard the people repent of their sins, laid on Jesus their sins in baptizing Jesus. The voice from Heaven said about Jesus, "You are my beloved Son, with you I am well pleased." (Ha Shem would not have been well pleased with a sinner.) Then the Spirit drove Jesus into the wilderness. Jesus began his ministry as the scapegoat and ended it as the sacrificed sin offering. Are not two goats required on the day of atonement? Jesus fulfilled both functions. Is he not the Lamb sent by Ha Shem with his Spirit to take away the sins of the world? Only He can seperate us from our sins as far as he stretched out the star filled sky.
The other interesting way the Baptist preceded Jesus: rising from the dead, or at least by rumor. And obviously even Acts has people still being Baptized in the tradition of John.
The young man in the linen cloth is the same Mark who writes the account... who heard the commotion of the hoard going to arrest Jesus. And went in his "pjs" to go look. There's nothing weird about it.
Simple answer: Jesus was crucified as sacrifice for all sins committed by all of Israel including nations; punishment for sins which which He did not commit and which He undeservingly took on Himself. For that purpose i.s. God's righteousness, He was baptized. His own words.
@julieellis2076 I am sure he does. But I see no point in asking a, say, atheist what he thinks about the features of God. Jewish belief system does not include either trinity nor Jesus as God (as a matter of fact, even very early Christianity did not include these belief items). Why would I ask a priest about circumcision? But I am sure this Mr Rabbi has insightful things to say on the matter. Yet, if I was him, what I would say is: This is none of my business.
Even more importantly is the fact that the priest were to thoroughly wash before enter the tent in ancient Israel. Exodus provides many procedures the Israelites were supposed to do to maintain the covenant, not the least of the procedure inside the tent. So, while God, through the Word, spoke and a perfect human was created and placed in the womb, and the person, being without sin, still needed to wash as you know the description given after he is baptized-coming immediately up out of the water the heavens were opened to him, the spirit of God descending upon him like a dove, and a voice was heard in heaven saying, this is my Son, the beloved. Apparently he had a conversation with himself 🙈. Then the spirit led him into the desert for 40 days he fasted. And more importantly, he prayed. Guess who he prayed to. Not himself, guess again. That’s right. God. His Father. Speaking through the Word. Then, God leaves him, withdraws his protection and Satan doesn’t take him down to the pits of some made up fire and brimstone. Nope. On top the highest mountain. Tempts him. Three temptation with pain so great his sweat was blood. I always wonder how that story would go had Jesus been God and he did a worship of Satan. I guess killing and disease and death would become Godly??? Not sure. But a human, even perfect, like Adam was, could fail the test. You see, it makes way more sense that GOD exists outside our time and space. For him to come here would end this universe. He created the Word, through which all things inside this universe would be. The Word is not God. He is the commander. Jesus is more like the restorer.
Jesus is a man, but the most holy. This story about the baptism reinforces the humility of Jesus and proves that baptism is functional since there are signs following the baptism including the dove and the speaking from the heavens. If you don't believe in these signs then don't believe in the rest of the story including that John met Jesus and was a baptizer by trade.
An odd common thread between John the Baptist and Jesus involves tax collectors. When tax collectors came to John to be baptized and asked what they should do to become righteous, John did not tell them to stop collecting taxes for Rome. He told them to collect no more than the appointed amount. This was an open and public declaration that the appointed amount was proper. Jesus was referred to as “a friend of tax collectors”; had a dinner party with tax collectors; stayed overnight with the chief tax collector, Zacchaeus, in Jericho; one of his disciples, Matthew, was a tax collector; declared not to give offense to the collector of the half-shekel tax; and stated, “Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.” No wonder Pontius Pilate openly defended Jesus against a mob in all four Gospels.
For those who might say Pilate’s open, public defense of Jesus was a later “adjustment” to the Gospels, the earliest Christian writings in Paul’s seven letters never blamed Jesus’ death on Rome. Paul evilly and abhorrently placed a blanket blame for Jesus’ death on the Jews (1 Thessalonians 2:14-15, c. 50 CE).
@@ryanfleming6896 Paul was a Jew himself. I've always thought it strange that people speak of his so-called anti-Semitism without at least acknowledging this. Paul genuinely believed that Jesus was God in human form. I think it was a bit of a stretch to expect him to be positively disposed towards those who he held responsible for God's death. Many Jews retained a dislike of Germans and Germany in precisely the same way after WW2. I don't remember many people denouncing this as an irrational hatred in the same terms as anti-semitism.
The trinity isnt Biblical, so there is nothing strange about Jesus being Baptized. Jesus Himself said that only God is good: Mark 10:18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone.
John baptised with water, when he was baptised the holy spirt came upon him and Jesus started his ministry. John the Baptist was a miracle birth of sorts like Isaac both his parents were elderly and God to Them Elizabeth would become pregnant and was to be called John and they wanted to call him Zechariah after his father, but Zechariah insisted he be called John
Just as you and I need to be baptized into Christ. Jesus too needed to be baptised and anointed by God's minister, before he could begin his ministry. John the baptist was of the Aaron priesthood like his Father. That's why relious leaders could not understand why he was in the desert and not in temples with him. And then John's mother Elizabeth was directly related to Jesus's mother.
Baptism represents death to the old nature, as the flood of Noah's time put all that were not on the ark to death. When one comes up out of the water your are rising up out of death in to the new nature of life, Notice when Jesus Comes up out of the water The holy spirit comes upon him in the form of a dove, parting the heavens resting upon him. Isaiah chapter 11
6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. John 18 : 28Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the *passover.* 29Pilate then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man? 30They answered and said unto him, If he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee. 31Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death: 32That the saying of Jesus might be fulfilled, which he spake, signifying what death he should die. Psalms 27 : 1{A Psalm of David.} The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? *2When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.* John 18 : 4Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said to them, Who do you seek? 5They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith to them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them. *6As soon then as he had said to them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.*
Jesus was God and man, he suffered hunger, he felt cold, he was betrayed he was tempted yet without sin. He was God and man, this is the mystery of God manifested in the flesh. No problem with the baptism. Also John the Baptist, asserts that Christ should be baptizing him, not he baptizing Christ. Yet Christ says, to fulfill righteousness, thereby validating the ministry of John, Christ is baptized.
The question was a good one: why would God, in the human form of Jesus, need remission of sins. He's God! I don't think I actually heard an answer to that question.
Does not God in the old testament need animal sacrifice for sin. God by becoming human offers himself as the ultimate sacrifice for sin, for God so loved the world. People are broken only God can heal us. Look at Solomon who even the wisest person fell to corruption.
John suffered from hallucinations and delusion and that would suggest schizophrenia. Did he " fly" over Patmos to be able to describe aerial geography? I think not. Just having another hallucination I guess. Shalom and G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
Thanks!
Great video and teaching as always!
Hope you see this Rabbi Singer. Wes Huff has just gone on Joe Rogan and the episode will be airing shortly. I’d love for you to do a review of it or even just a video rebutting him as he is highly regarded by Christians as an expert on Hebrew or the entire Bible more generally. Maybe just maybe we can even hope for a debate between you two! All the best and Happy Chanukah!
Yes! I've proposed this in several comments sections on Huff's 'takedowns', and would love to see him finally encounter an actual authority on these things!
MythVision podcast recently refuted wes. It was brutal
I was having the same thought!! I would animate that! May the Holy One Blessed is He bring it to fruition!
@seekers-of-righteousness
MythVision Podcast - Wes Huff Is LYING Like They Accused Billy Carson!
Watch the whole thing its absolutely brutal. They expose every inch of this Wes guy.
I don't want to get complicated either but if i am not mistaken, Jews are the most atheist/agnostic folks on the planet but Rabbi Tobi is fixated on Christians. Am I wrong? If so, lend me some of your chosen higher intellect.
Matthew 3:14 John tried to dissuade him, with the words, 'It is I who need baptism from you, and yet you come to me!'
3:15 But Jesus replied, 'Leave it like this for the time being; it is fitting that we should, in this way, do all that uprightness demands.' Then John gave in to him.
Still makes no sense
I was raised in the Church of Christ, and they always taught us that jesus was baptized as an example. Im so glad i learn the truth, through your help.
IM COVERED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS! HALLELUJAH! GOD TRULY SAVES
You believe in blood magic
God is not your idol.
Amen !
Pure cope. Jesus is dead and powerless
@@613mitzvoth Jesus is alive. He is in my spirit through the Holy Spirit. Through Him we become children of God .
As a modern day person, it can be hard to envision what life was like 2,000-3,000 years ago when a lot of religious writings emerged. As a Christian (and biblical studies major), I really appreciate these videos… although probably not for the same reason Rabbi Singer intends. I appreciate them because these discussions bring to life the tension Jesus and the Pharisees, Paul and the Jewish leaders, etc. that is thematic in the New Testament. As well as outlining tensions between early Christian sects.
The idolatry of worshiping a person is likely to cause tension.
@ very good response! I love it. But I have a different view of the trinity than a lot of Christians. I think of God the Father as what you would think of God. I think of Holy Spirit as a verb (attributing God’s actions). I think of Jesus as God taking in human form (as He did to Abraham). All one being…. just us humans having different names for the different forms. But I agree on a couple things: we should not worship a human and Christians misunderstand a lot of things.
@@I.PittyTheFool God does not have a body or any form.
@@I.PittyTheFoolwhy wasn't that doctrine in the old testament? Also, the old testament doesn't mention the messiah dying for the sin of the world. The Bible also doesn't mention a second coming. Abraham was met with angels, not God. On many places, people called angels as gods.
Thank you Rabbi
As surely as I live,' says the Lord, every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.
Jesus is King
Keep the 7 Noahide laws and stop promoting idolatry.
You are wise to speak with respect too listen is wisdom May you stay in his blessings
Jesus was not baptized because of sin but because He was willing to obey the Law in this case baptism to be our Exemplar.
Where in the law did it say one must be baptized?
You see, the law/prophets did say a forerunner of Christ in the spirit of Elijah had to come. That was j the b. And it was j's mission to baptize people for the forgiveness of sin. If jesus who knew no sin was later to be killed as a convict by the law of moses could be counted as an atonement, why not a baptism for the forgiveness of sin be counted 'to fulfil all righteousness'? So jesus did fulfil the law AND the prophets. Besides, the law as the law only as that of moses is the erroneous view of the jews who rejected Christ. The law of the Lord is what/where the spirit of the Lord leads and is. During the time of the prophets, people supposedly kept the law, but God rejected their fake keeping of such outward fakery n instead sent the prophets to course correct his people. In this case prophecy takes precedence n the people ought to do as the prophets led. One can't reject the prophet that God himself has sent n be claiming to obey some law, obviously a dead written code bereft of spirit. Jesus is that one sent for you. Accept him as your savior n Messiah. Stop resisting he who comes to you in the name of the Lord n say 'blessed is he who comes with the message of God'. Cheers
Where is baptized in the law? Please give the scripture…
Immersion is in the Leviticus law..
Mainly for purification not
For forgiveness of sin…?
Answer? Also the Hebrew
Alphabet doesn’t have any
J’s but the Greek and Latin
Use the letter…
Please review the Hebrew alphabet and you will see that there are zero J’s…
@@isartoraplatz I've answered ur first q, so there is no room for ur next. You may not like the answer, n u may leave it there.
@@7h7o7p Can the death of the guiltless absolve the guilty, according to Tanakh? Answer me without equivocating.
Todah Rabah Rabbi Tovia Singer for all you do!
I❤ listening and learning from you.
This is so great!
May your father's memory forever be a blessing!
May his neshama have the highest Aliyah!
When I was a teenager I was fully immersed into a lake during an Appalachian Baptist Baptism. There are concepts in Baptism; which are not found in Torah. Does or can Baptism replace The Torah's guidelines for being in relationship with G-d? I do not think so...
We appreciate all you do to keep us all away from idolatry ;;;;;))
Taking all of the gospels into account, I had always thought it was fairly clear that JC was not divine from his birth, and that he was only divine from the moment that the holy spirit descended upon him. Until that point, he was a regular carpenter. Indeed, he could not perform miracles in his hometown because the residents did not believe in him.
It was only for the last three years of his life that he was in way truly exceptional. Until this point, he was just an ordinary person.
This is why I walked away from the church years ago and stop believing anything written in the new testament. It's full of lies and contradictions .
It’s lies to some and life changing to others who become born again believers through divine providence.
And unless one becomes born again they will not see the Kingdom of God John 3v3.
What contradictions, the new testament is a set of book written by different authors. They agreed on the true meaning of Christ and resurrection. It is different peoples witness, as in a modern people we all would vary on are description of something witnessed.
@@tonysuel5347 Rabbi Tovia goes thru some contradictions in this video, and many more in other videos.
@jsbrads1 I have seen his videos and scholars and historian wouldn't agree. I understand he wants to protect his beliefs as we all do. But to use a false argument does not help.
@ what is false about his argument?
it's my understanding that Yeshu' requested the baptism in order to validate it (Matthew 3:13-17). Thank you very much Rabbi!
So how were people being forgiven of their sins if only the blood of Jesus can do so?
@@AlexanderEalley Fair enough. No where does Yeshu' teach that in the Gospels. That's a doctorine of Sauls. No atonement can dissuade Gods hand. None. That satiates mans carnality. People go free every day, that shouldn't. Further more "forgiveness" has always come from mans hand, lest it be something else. Forgiveness has already been given, it's up to people to repent, as always. Just as Yeshu' is Lord of the Sabbath. Was the God of Abraham not that? Was he/she not corporeal as well?
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."
Paul in Ephesus
Acts 19 And it happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the inland[a] country and came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples. 2 And he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” 3 And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” They said, “Into John's baptism.” 👉4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance👈, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in[b] the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking in tongues and prophesying. 7 There were about twelve men in all.
The question asker needs to dig more deeper. Miss representing what is written isn't proof of this line if thinking.
Good points, i never thought of that
Jesus was never baptized for His sins, which He did not have any. Matthew 3:15 But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
1 John 5:7-8 Father son ghost is an admitted insertion by church fathers 390ce .
Not in original earliest koine Greek new testament.
Sometimes you really have to look into these scriptures.justsaying
Isaiah 48:16
@paulhagen1089 read all Isaiah in context in Hebrew scripture sources not English Christian mistranslations.
It says clearly " nation of Israel" theJews are the suffering servant not a man God idol trinity pagan human sacrifice calvary 700+ years after Isaiah lived.
תודה שאתה מראה לנו את היופי שבתורה.
2:22 *I have read Mark ! The plot is: Absolutely nobody understands who Jesus is ! And obviously the author himself doesn't understand who Jesus is. You have a similar storyline in John, that ends with Thomas connecting the dots. Jesus is the Lord and God, the Son and Father i one. Shalom.*
I listen to the gospel of mark a few times a week then every once in a while I’ll listen to Matthew or Luke and its infuriating. Our knowledge of the early church disputes must only be a fraction of the problems going on in the church
And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. Eze 36:26
Hi William, I pray that blessings fall upon your family. I say
Strangely Rabby Tovia Singer conveniently omitted the fact that Mark is speaking about the heaven opening at the moment of Jesus' baptism:
Mark 1:10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
He omitted it not by convenience but simply because the claim in the gospel is nonsense. Where in the Tanakh have you read that ruach (which means the spirit but also the wind) comes in a shape of a bird? Ruach descends upon people and it happens in an *invisible* way. The only visible sign is the ability to prophesy. When the spirit descended upon Saul, he prophesied. There were no doves flying around. If Jesus was the "beloved Son" then it means Jesus is not G-d since he needs to be told the words by the only G-d and he is called a son- a creature, not the Creator. Secondly, we know that John's parents were blameless (did not sin). Was not G-d pleased with them? Were they not beloved by Him? Sure they were!
More so than a man of zero lineage (no mortal father= no lineage) who claimed to be of the tribe of Judah and the king of Israel- which was a big, fat lie. A man who taught his disciples to hate their mothers and their fathers, thus breaking the 5th Commandment? Surely, the All-knowing G-d knew that Jesus was a sinner.
The text reads that *he* (Jesus) saw all this happen, and that *he* (Jesus) heard the voice, meaning that this is yet another personal, unfalsifiable claim being made by *Jesus.* John certainly did not observe any of this supposed phenomena occurring, as he later questions Jesus through his own disciples, “Are you the one who is to come, or are we to look for another?” (Matthew 11:3)
Mythology period.
@@GabrielEddy no, no, no
Actually in gospel of John it talks about John witnessing the dove descending on Jesus.
@@allpraisestothemosthigh4671 The fourth gospel is a _spiritual_ gospel, not historical.
Valeu!
Baptism is an allegory for death and resurrection. Going under water is death, getting up from the water is resurrection. By getting baptized, Jesus steps into the role that he is going to fulfill, preparing to die before getting resurrected. And by getting baptized ourselves we follow Him in dying and getting resurrected. Romans 6:8: Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him.
I was told that before I was baptized. And I thought about it as I was being baptized. It was a wonderful experience.
As for naked man fleeing: are things not taken away and exposed? There are those who run away from revelations of exposure. King David exposed himself and danced. Scripture contains signs. 8:56
“Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”
Luke 16:29-31 KJV
To some people in the ancient world, John the Baptist was so important, he merited a belief system of his own, and, voilà:The Mandaean religion.
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At the crucifixion Mary went home with John the disciple. Why wouldn’t Luke possibly talk with Mary, yet Mary even share with John and other disciples and Luke being a physician definitely would want to have and be detailed. Things come in progressions of revelations. 5:55
Plus I think physicians know how and do ask questions to get to know more to understand.
According to the Bible, John the Baptist was not the same person as Elijah, but he came in the "spirit and power of Elijah": In Matthew 11:14, Jesus says that John the Baptist is "the Elijah who is to come" as prophesied by Isaiah.
Now why did sinless Jesus got baptized because He represented the entire sinful humanity. Why did Jesus did not defended himself in front of Pilate because He represented the entire sinful humanity, the very purpose He came.
One of the prerequisites for the Messiah is for Elijah to announce his coming. Jesus says John the Baptist fulfills that role, but John the Baptist denies being Elijah when asked directly, which is a HUGE problem for Christianity. Christians say that John fulfills the role "spiritually" or "plutonically" which is the typical cop out, but the Hebrew Bible doesn't leave room for such a reinterpretation.
Elijah will come in the end of days to announce the second coming of Jesus. Maybe John denied it, because the second coming of Christ wasn't happening yet or he simply didn't know it. Amos denied that he was a prophet, but still he was a prophet.
[Amos 7:14] And Amos answered and said to Amaziah, “I am not a prophet and I am not a son of a prophet, but I am a herdsman and I am one taking care of sycamore trees."
@@frankfibich7152 John 1:21 'They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.”'
Amos didnt say "Im not Amos". John directly says he is not Elijah, leaving no wiggle room.
Next verse in Amos 7:15:
"BUT the Lord took me from tending the flock and said to me, ‘Go, prophesy to my people Israel’"
Amos’s was conveying the idea that God can choose anyone to be His messenger, regardless of their social status or profession.
"Elijah will come in the end of days to announce the second coming of Jesus." This is a tacit admission that Jesus failed the prerequisite then, you are contradicting the words of Jesus regarding John/Elijah
@ts8960 no I simply said, since Amos didn't see himself as prophet, John could've been unaware that he came with the spirit of Elijah. Nowhere in the Bible it says, that he needs to be aware of it. Jesus knew who he was and that's enough actually.
@frankfibich7152 john the baptist was aware of elijah's role from the hebrew bible, given the context of john1:21, and he outright plainly and confidently denied any association with elijah. He didnt even say he came in the spirit of elijah (which is what luke said, but this contradicts the hebrew bible which says it must be the literal Elijah, not some spirit or placebo)
The whole point of elijah is to verify the messiah, but apperantly john wasnt aware he himself was tasked as elijah? This is all a big mess and all of it is absurd
So you really expect Elijah to show up one day in the future? 😮
I appreciate your knowledge and well thought out answers. The way it was explained to me recently, is that Jesus fully came into his divine power after being baptized. It reminded me of the first gospel I had heard when I was young, back when the Holy Spirit was a ghost. It was that God spoke to Jesus and said “now you are my begotten son”.
Funny, as you read the gospels in order Jesus becomes bigger and bigger. At first he is Gods son at his baptism, then at his birth, then in the last gospel he is Gods son from the beginning of creation. 🤔 Looks like the theology was evolving as it went along. Paul doesn't even mention Jesus' miraculous birth. The whole story is an invention written about 40+ years after Jesus' death and very Greco-Roman in its flavour. Jesus could never be the O.T Messiah. He didn't fulfil one prophecy about the coming Messiah and he wasn't from the line of David as Messiah has to be, his dad was God 🙃. So he's disqualified straight away. The Jews were right to reject. I'm not a christian anymore, not a Jew either. Religion is a racket ad far as I'm concerned and the sooner it disappears the sooner we will be able to live in peace. Aka the famous words of John Lennon. ❤ from uk
The son of God is Israel, not your idol.
Can Rabbi answer who Melquizadek King of Salem was
The ancient Targumim (Aramaic interpretive translations) identify Melchizedek as Shem-son of Noah.
And some see Melchizedrk as a deity, who brought both bread and wine , as Jesus / Yeshua
Shem, son of Noah
Happy Hanukkah 🎉 Rabbi .
Curiously enough I can remember that actual question about John the Baptist baptising Jesus being asked in Catholic School .
To the best of my memory it was said -Jesus agreed to be Baptised simply to acknowledge the great work of John and go through the motions so to speak as an example for others !
I am not a religious person - just interested as it's history and many do actually take this stuff seriously ?
John the Baptist was like a new Élie, preparing the way for the lord, he is the voice in the desert. His birth was a miracle a little bit like Isaac for Abraham and Sarah. As the cousin of Jesus, he probably stayed or was a neighbor of the essenians (écrit de la mer morte). In mediaval time for gnostics or (initié aux symboles) he was considered very important for many believers as Leonardo Da Vinci.
also identified as the last prophet of the old testament, because Jesus was right in the good historic time for the promised messiah. that is why Christ has so many enemies or antichrist. They are blind to the truth, exactly how yeshua foretold to his disciples (friends and students).
This question isn't a new one and is answered in the gospel. John explicitly acknowledges that Jesus does not need to be baptised because Jesus is without sin but two things are going on:
1. Jesus is identifying with sinners, not in the sense that he is a sinner but in the sense he is willing to be seen among sinners. He is willing to get among the dirt and grime of our sin and not be ashamed of it.
2. Jesus is leading by example. Jesus never asks his followers to do something that he wouldn't himself do. Baptism is something Jesus wants his followers to do so because it is an essential part of his church and he leads by example he was baptised
And FWIW, I agree that the fact of John baptizing people for the remission of sin blows Paul right out of the water. There's no need for a human sacrifice. Just repent, get immersed, and act righteously going forward. That's Judaism, too. See Isaiah 1: wash yourselves, get clean, stop doing bad, learn to do good.
This stands in stark contrast to the need for Jesus to die for your sins.
If you seriously think that, your theology of sin is wrong. Sin is worse than you imagine. Your sin is not some little sin that isn't that bad. It's outright rebellion and insurrection against a holy and just God. It is you saying I don't want you God in charge. I am in control now. That is why none of us deserve heaven and none of us by ourselves can be near God
@@pgpython As an eternal lesson for all generations, God instructed Cain about the ability to repent, which is in the hands of every person: to repent and return to God at any time one desires and makes the decision to do so, and God will forgive him.
Jesus said forgive, Jesus dieing was to end animal sacrifice for all time. He die so the power of evil was overcome by his death and resurrection .
"Then Yeshua came from the Galil to the Yarden to be immersed by Yochanan. But Yochanan tried to stop him. “You are coming to me? I ought to be immersed by you!” However, Yeshua answered him, “Let it be this way now, because we should do everything righteousness requires.” Then Yochanan let him." [Matthew 3:15..CJB] One thing that bothers Jesus is self righteousness, and boastful displays of spiritual superiority as exemplified in the parable of the Pharisee and Tax Collector; "To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable:.." [ref Luke 18:9..] Also later on Jesus commanded believers to become baptized in the name of Father, Son, & Spirit (Matt 28:19). Therefore Jesus was also setting a good example and being a good leader to His followers by allowing himself to be baptized by John.
When Jesus came to be baptized, John the Baptist initially objected, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?" John recognized Jesus' superior spiritual status and felt unworthy to baptize Him, believing that Jesus should be the one baptizing him instead.
Jesus responded by saying, "Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness". After this exchange, John consented and baptized Jesus. So, fulfilment of righteousness, identification with sinners, public declaration... also, notice that all three of the Holy Trinity were present which speaks to witness. It was also a formal anointing.
Wrt John the Baptist "rock star" status, in John 3:30 he said, "He (Jesus) must increase, but I must decrease". And that is exactly what happened. What year is it now? Why? Jesus.
We know that Jn 3:30 is unhistorical, as it directly contradicts John the Baptist’s questioning to Jesus from prison through his disciples as recorded in Matthew 11:3, “Are you the one who is to come, or are we to look for another?”
@ ??? He’s in prison and the messiah is leaving him there so he’s questioning things! You’d do the same thing only you’d have a hissy fit!
That’s a terrible argument LOL. Not even a nice try! 😂😂😂
@@TheNortonio Chronologically, John the Baptist’s imprisonment ended his baptist ministry. Had he ever acknowledged Jesus as being the anointed one (messiah) who was to come, why would he then later doubt Jesus’ legitimacy while imprisoned? Employing Occam's razor, the simplest explanation is that John had only heard of Jesus, and that no such acknowledgment to Jesus’ self-assumed messiahship was ever made by John. Therefore, John 3:30 is apologetic in nature, not historical.
@@GabrielEddy You are speculating and you are doubting. My speculation is not from doubt. Think of it this way, he baptized Jesus and witnessed the voice (this is my son in whom I am well pleased) and the descending dove. All was well. The messiah has arrived... then, Jesus just walked around preaching and healing but not even trying to overthrow the Romans to free Israel. They didn't understand that. Then, on top of that, John was arrested. Here he is in jail while the supposed messiah has arrived. He was confused about the whole state of affairs and so he asked, "hey, are you really the one then?". Jesus reply reassured him. The take away from that is that this world will be destroyed and a new one will be made. This world is not our home it is temporary until the time which the Father has appointed. Until then we will be persecuted and we will die. Jesus WILL NOT disappoint on the last day though. You can rest assured of that!
Great points. I thought you were gonna attack John the Baptist himself… what can we actually know about the guy? Was he a good guy who was a prophet calling Israel to repentance before the destruction?
John the Baptist didn't believe that jesus is the Messiah. "A later generation "
A massive difference between repentance and fake forgiveness.
Blessed be The God of Jewish Faith Hashem ✡️.
John the Baptist did believe Jesus was the Messiah.
1Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”
4“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Sure seems to me John compliments the baptism.
“And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.”
John 1:32-34 KJV
“And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.”
John 1:31 KJV
It's not that Yeshua "needed" to be baptized at the start of His ministry, but He was setting the example for us, as Christians, showing us for all time that we should follow Him in all things from beginning to end. As such, the Christian life BEGINS (just as Christ's ministry began) with the baptism by water of which afterward comes its more intended effect in the even more important baptism of the Holy Spirit. Simple. No need to tear down Christ for being the Lord. If the question then becomes why did Yeshua have need of the Holy Spirit at the start of His public ministry, shall not the Messiah have need of Power to complete a ministry that moves to undo Satan's own supernatural power in this world? And consider His works that have moved so many to this very day and have for centuries. Yeshua died, rose again, and is seated at the right hand of the Father. This is the Truth that has been shown of what we, as emissaries of Christ (and future Elohim; God with His children) are to do in our own public ministry when we take up our cross in His name and overcome the world and its prince. In this, God has made a supernatural Way for us to be partakers in the inheritance of a Life that far transcends Satan's temporal rule of a world marked with sin and death. No one comes to the Father but through His Son, even as it was the Father Himself who has designated it so. Denying it changes nothing. Denying the Sun for the moon doesn't make the Sun shine less.
The son of God is Israel, not your idol.
Sorry about your father Rabbi. Baruch Dayan Emet.
What is your opinion on the “ Virgin” birth ?
I have my own theory , but what do you think ?
Baptism is NOT for forgiveness of sin. Baptism is OBEDIENCE to God, the Father and a TESTIMONY to the world that you are OBEDIENT to God
@5:24 paraphrase "Luke is the only one who says Jesus and John are cousins." True, and not only that, but the author of John didn't seem to know that plot point because he has John not know who Jesus is, despite being his cousin and living within walking distance of him according to Luke.
Shows the story is all made up. I've no idea how it's lasted over 2000 years or why people read this and still believe it. But then again, I did until I decided to scrutiny it more and left the mythologies behind me at 33 yrs old. It should really have been earlier but I was a brainedwashed thoughtco trolled jw.
Just as Joshua crossed the Jordan with the priests first and the ark, AFTER THEY WERE CIRCUMCISED...just as Elijah crossed with Elisha, and John baptized Yashua. Its the form of circumcision.
He doesn't mention anything about his parents and the angel and what happened, because he doesn't believe it, and he probably doesn't see its relevance.
But trust me, its super important because there is a Moses/Joshua thing happening here, a transfer from Levi to Judah, just as Paul says a transfer of the priesthood that had always been levitical, but now was from Judah. john is the moon, Yashua is the sun, and the stars are actually the 12 constellations or the 12 apostles...
It is possible to be tempted by things but to not succumb. Also, there’s a very wide range of how tempted one might be. Jesus Christ was confronted by temptation, yet wasn’t tempted because He had complete control of Himself at all times. Yes, even when He was on the cross and willingly gave up His life. He knew what He was doing.
John the Baptist was Jesus’ cousin. John had a very special role to play because he was a witness of Christ’s divinity and came to prepare the way. Mary, Joseph, John the Baptist, Jesus’ disciples, and those that followed Him all were witnesses that He lived and was the Son of Gd. He still lives and He will return at a time that Gd knows.
Was Jesus tempted in your view? Could he have sinned?
"He had complete control of Himself at all times." Remember when jesus created 2 bears to attack the kids that was teasing a bald man? or when he over turned the tables in a fit of rage in the temples? Was he in control then?
@@ToviaSinger1No, because Yeshua was without sin and God in the flesh. But the devil tried anyway, just like some people - who think they are so clever - cannot see that Yeshua is the Jewish messiah and savior of mankind. The old and the new covenant complement each other perfectly. One just have to open the eyes and ears properly...
@@TboneWTFNo he lost it bro.
@ "No he lost it bro." LOL. He was insane in the membrane, yo!
I still cant imagine this man literally destroy the world largest religion and have only 100k subs.
thats gonna change soon,these days people getting smarter, have access to information, and ask questions,not just follow what they told blindly.
At the end they will find the truth.
Rabbi Tovia is the BITCOIN of are time,soon gonna have Millions views.
I wish there was option to buy Rabbi Tovia stocks,i could be a millionere😂
We are very lucky to found this channel before evreyone.🙏😇😊❤
You think the Christian will stop worshiping Jesus. Jesus Christ is the messiah. I will follow him. He is my King of Kings
start with you please
Do you not see the contradictions in these 2 verses? And still you believe the bible to be the inerrant word of god . Please without any word gymnastics please tell me how are both of these events correct? Thank you.@InTheNameOfJesusGOD
He didn't destroy anything, Singer simply don't understand.
@@mikealioto6228what happens when Hashem sends forth His legions and J.C. Isn’t leading them??
John the Baptist said I need to be Baptized by Him, whose sandal I am unfit to tie. Does not means Jesus sinned.
Jesus did it as part of being the Way, to fulfill righteousness.
Water baptism in Christianity should be done post salvation as a public testimony. Jesus began His public ministry after baptism.
Public testimony and public ministry are the rhyming concepts here.
Jesus sinned.
@@DrD2You nope, Jesus decided that way, with humility he came in our world at that turbulent time for his people. Like Jesus said, it was also his decision to give his life freely and take it back, because he received that power from his father. The best thing to do is to read and check by yourself!
Judaism expects Elijah with the Messiah, yes? Take Mark Literally, John prepares the way of the Lord. Luke, the temple visions to a priest, his son, John the Baptist, would come in the Spirit of Elijah.
Can you explain what you mean by "to fulfill righteousness", please? It makes no sense. To fulfill means to accomplish, to finish. A righteous person is somebody who keeps the Law of G-d (which Christians don't keep, saying they are above the Law). Yes, ALL the appropriate mitzvot, my friend- not picking what you like and discarding the rest as the "OT stuff". A righteous person is righteous already- there's no need to "fulfill" anything. If John and John's parents were righteous (kept the Law at all times), that means John and his parents were more worthy than Jesus (who sinned several times- your own gospels tell us plainly that he said e.g. to hate your own mother and father- a very serious sin that goes against the 5th Commandment)
@@DrD2Youend of discussion. Trying to paint a picture of something that happened in another era when you given very little information in the first place. So where did John the Baptist get his authority to free man thru Baptism?
The rock star john the Baptist would not go to a concert if no attendees showed up. Therefore he that day had a large audience for a grand performance when Jesus arrived. The grand finale was the spirit in motion and entering Jesus and the only time where God voiced himself saying this is my beloved son......".This human formality of a baptism set up a grand universe event for Jesus for many to observe it.The baptism was not about baptism but the Spirit response to his son Jesus.
Although there are diffirences between muslims and jews I am still startled how the monotheistic core beliefs of the two have many simmilarities.
The criterion of embarrassment (or dissimilarity) employed by historians tells us that if an event that the author mentions that doesn't serve their narrative agenda, but can't denied because it was already too well known as part of the story, then it it's likelihood is strengthened.
Perhaps the most notable example would be Jesus' baptism. John was known to Jesus' forebear, so the fourth and latest NT gospel writer can't write him out completely, his role is reduced to a mere foil, there to signal Jesus' divine sonship and sacrificial "lamb of God 'status.
Not only only is this disrespectful to historical veracity, it is also so to Jesus' own regard for John the Baptist, who was his mentor as well as his baptizer. Jesus even refers (in Q which predates Mark as Rabbi Tovia aptly points out) to John as the greatest man ever born of woman, and much more than a prophet. That's some high praise! So it's unlikely Jesus saw himself as sinless, and went to be baptized for the very reason other Jews of the time did. It didn't cleanse sin on its own, but was meant both a kind of confession of one's sinfulness and a public declaration that one was renouncing it: repentance is a promise and commitement heretofore to live a more righteous life. It's based on the traditional Jewish mikvah ritual. For the baptized, it was renewal of one's personal covenant with God.
I believe that "son of God" was a symbolic designation for any person who'd undergone it, not just Jesus. The Essenes (probably John's inspiration) refer to the righteous among the Jews as "sons of Light" through whom the covenant was to be restored. Luke gives us a clue. The voice that Jesus hears at his baptism is "you are my son, in whom I am well pleased.." and this is actually echoes a psalm by David (I believe) that continues the verse with "...today I have begotten you" . The whole verse may well have been intact in Q. Later on "Son of God" was misconstrued to exclusively refer to Jesus as a literal son of God, as Christianity was influenced by Greco-Roman religion and a higher christology took the place of what we see in Mark and Q. But, we can get a pretty good idea of what Jesus himself would have preached in the Prodigal Son parable: it was as wayward children that we would be reunited with God if we only repented and embraced a better way of living. No human sacrifice required.
It is through John that Jesus also meets some of his future disciples; all of them were followers of John's movement which was not only about the coming eschaton, but also there to preach the same ethical teachings normally associated with Jesus (see Luke chapter 3) basically loving, ie taking care of one's neighbor in their time of need. Essentially one was to live as though one was already living in the kingdom; a life centered around doing the right thing not merely believing it. This was the tree whose righteousness would be known by its fruit, and spared the fires of Gehenna (the annihilation of the soul)
John the Baptizer gets waaay too little credit, when it was really his movement that Jesus was continuing. But both were really spokesmen for a better way of living.
See and hear what happens immediately after the baptism: visual and audible confirmation from Heaven - Mc 1:10 - 11
I watched this video and listened to the leading question put to Rabbi Singer. I would draw Rabbi Singer’s attention to Matthew 3:15 (NIV) “15 Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented”. This is why Jesus asked to be baptised for our sake, NOT that he needed baptism. John specifically came to prepare the way of the Lord Jesus. Jesus did not latch onto John the Baptist because John was popular! Please see Luke 1:67-79.
Please also read 2 Corinthians 5:21, where it says that Jesus was sinless, but God made him into sin so that we may be saved, through Jesus.
And, John 1:1-18 where it starts off in the first verse (NIV) “1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”. This is referring directly to Jesus, who was the Word made flesh and dwelt amongst us (verse 14).
Another point in this video - one is not sinless by keeping all the commandments. This sounds to me more like a robot following instructions to the letter. Jesus said that the supreme commandment was to ‘love God with all of one’s heart, soul, mind and strength; then love one’s neighbour as oneself’. The race to perfection is through RELATIONSHIP and is a living prayer.
very good, thank you for your comment, well exposed. This is the toughest part for non-believers about Yeshua. both for muslim and jewish believers. Torah knowing God in spirit, Bible Word of God amongs us explaining how to make relationship with God (father and son) and charity
@ Thank you for your further insight!
JOHN said YESHUA is the Messiah and lamb of GOD.. and people believed JOHN
No temple, no Messiah.
Did he really? Matt 11: 2Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
and rabbis still believe a JOHN will Precede Messiah-- and Daniel 9 does say these 6 things in verses 24-27 listed in verse 24 will occur within 490 or 483 Years and 🖤BEFORE🖤 BEFORE 🖤 BEFORE🖤 jeru and temple 🖤🖤DESTROYED... all this does Point to YESHUA❤❤
is john the baptist mentioned outside brith chadash?
Flavius Josephus for one. He won't be Rabbi Tovias favourite though. ❤ But a good historian ( a turncoat Jew who sided with Rome - I can just see the Rabbi spit if he reads this 😂) Loves ya Rabbi Tovia. I've learnt a lot from you since leaving religion. ❤
But in the gospels there is some debate as to whether John is heralding something new or whether Jesus is the last in the line
The narrative of the “transition” from John the Baptist to Jesus in the Gospels is very odd. John is sent to prison by Herod Antipas due to John’s criticism of his marriage to Herodias, even though Herod perceives John as a righteous man. It is odd that Jesus, in his newly assigned take over and gaining prominence, never made appeals for John’s release. Then after several months in prison, Herodias’ daughter, Salome, calls for the head of John the Baptist when she could have asked for anything else, and still nothing from Jesus. The narrative reeks of behind-the-scenes details of transitioning a movement from John the Baptist to Jesus, and getting John out of the picture.
Absolutely agree
Only a priest can inspect a sacrifice before it can be sacrificed.
John was prophesied in::::
(ISIAH 40:3-8 in the tanakh. Before Isiah was sentenced to death accused of being a false prophet.)
John’s priesthood was passed down to him by his father Zachariah.
This is why John looked at yeshua and said
“Here is the lamb of God who will take the sins away from the world.” Only a priest can do this according to the Torah.
(Isiah 40:3-8 in the tanakh)
Right at the river Jordan the crossing point to the promise land.
Yeshua said John the Baptist was the reincarnation of Elijah during the transfiguration. Nobody reads it, though.
Psalm 82 tells of multiple gods, but Christians and Jews won't teach it properly and terminate/ostracize people who do. Matt 10 is when they tried to terminate Yeshua for preaching it.
Markan priority is speculative. The early Church historians thought Matthew wrote first. ( Mathean priority) Markan priority is a later development. Of course the Jewish followers of Jesus wouldve written in Hebrew. We have mulitple attestations from early church historians who qoute from the "Hebrew Gospel of Matthew" aka 'Gospel of the Hebews" Theres an argument to be made that Mark is an epitome of Matthew and/or Luke as well. And no Pauls writings dont predate the gospels as some like to claim
1:6 John wore a garment of camel-skin, and he lived on locusts and wild honey.
1:7 In the course of his preaching he said, 'After me is coming someone who is more powerful than me, and I am not fit to kneel down and undo the strap of his sandals.
1:8 I have baptised you with water, but he will baptise you with the Holy Spirit.'
1:9 It was at this time that Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptised in the Jordan by John.
1:10 And at once, as he was coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens torn apart and the Spirit, like a dove, descending on him.
1:11 And a voice came from heaven, 'You are my Son, the Beloved; my favour rests on you.'
A prophecy delivered and fulfilled all within the next verse, how clever!!
@@AlexanderEalley What do you expect Alexander, something never chronological like the Quran?
According to Yogananda, John was Jesus' guru in a previous incarnation. In order to acknowledge that, Jesus chose to be baptized.
How can you prove jesus was divine with out citing the bible?
@@TboneWTF I don't see the connection with my comment. But that aside, why would I want to prove anything ? Everything is divine, because everything comes form and happens in God. Jesus realized that more than the average person, but in principle and in potential he was no different than you or I.
@ "why would I want to prove anything ? " Don't you want people to believe you? isn't it important to tell the truth? if so than you should want to provide evidence for your claims. If I told you that unicorns are real would you believe me or want evidence?
@ " Everything is divine, because everything comes form and happens in God. " You just made an unfounded claim. I don't believe what you said is true. Now you need to provide evidence to prove what you said is credible and true. can you do that? if not than why should anyone take what you say seriously?
@@TboneWTF I reacted to your statement that I could not prove that Jesus was divine without citing the Bible. Again, why would I want to prove that? And then, as if citing a collection of cultural texts could prove anything.
I have read Mark but I haven’t read any of the other canonical gospels 🤷🏻♂️
5:15 What the Rabbi is saying is that this fictional pacifist Jesus was added into the story of John the Baptist to usurp the power of the messianic leader, John. Some of the Israelites were waiting for a messianic leader who would free them from the Romans.
The bible has numerous contradictions and fallacies.
Jesus got baptized because he wanted to set an example of what his followers should do to wash away their sins that’s why Christian means Christlike. We follow his example. He did not have any sense but wanted to show what to do.
This is a disingenuous question and answer. It's clearly addressed in the very same gospel. Jesus was without sin that's why John asked Jesus why he wanted to be baptized.
Nobody every said Jesus needed to be baptized.
He was baptized to fulfill righteousness, to be associated with mankind and to be a public example for others. These are clearly stated in the gospels. and explained many times.
Why would God come as a human and not live as a human should? What would be the point?
The fact that there are things missing in the different accounts of Jesus life give more credibility to them, not less. Ask any detective what they would think if every witness to crime made the exact statement. It would be proof that they were rehearsed, because not every witness is going to see and hear the same things. That is reality.
Of course Jesus didn't 'need' a baptism - he undertook it out of humility. 'Blameless' doesn't mean sinless as the rabbi asserts. That's disingenuous to say that the gospels want to 'attach' Jesus to John. John himself calls Jesus the lamb of God. John's whole purpose is to prepare the way for the Messiah.
O please...what nonsense you are trying to speu...this whole jsus thing is a joke!!
Its seems niether the Jews nor false christians understand The Messiah at all .
Jesus was anointed by a prophet to be the king 🤴, just like david the shepherd 😊❤
@@AdrianMagyar-tq6iz really?
What can you teach us?
@jsbrads1
I just inform you that ,jesus is God, halelujah amin 🙏 🙌 ❤️ 😊
@@jsbrads1 That Jesus is God's Son and The Anionted Messiah .
Simple answer is that Jesus' baptism was representative of something other than repentance. Also, Jesus is NOT God Almighty, he is the son of God Almighty.
We christians read all four goepels. But we never come acrose any contradictions on the divinity, humaness, crusifiction, death, burial and resurection of Jesus. The details of some events may differ but they never contradict.
John, who heard the people repent of their sins, laid on Jesus their sins in baptizing Jesus. The voice from Heaven said about Jesus, "You are my beloved Son, with you I am well pleased." (Ha Shem would not have been well pleased with a sinner.) Then the Spirit drove Jesus into the wilderness. Jesus began his ministry as the scapegoat and ended it as the sacrificed sin offering. Are not two goats required on the day of atonement? Jesus fulfilled both functions. Is he not the Lamb sent by Ha Shem with his Spirit to take away the sins of the world? Only He can seperate us from our sins as far as he stretched out the star filled sky.
The other interesting way the Baptist preceded Jesus: rising from the dead, or at least by rumor. And obviously even Acts has people still being Baptized in the tradition of John.
Why don't you respect 10 commandments first before making comments on other religions.
God gave 613 commandments for Jews and the 7 for Gentiles.
then why John the Baptist, is not in the Tanaj?
The young man in the linen cloth is the same Mark who writes the account... who heard the commotion of the hoard going to arrest Jesus. And went in his "pjs" to go look. There's nothing weird about it.
Simple answer: Jesus was crucified as sacrifice for all sins committed by all of Israel including nations; punishment for sins which which He did not commit and which He undeservingly took on Himself. For that purpose i.s. God's righteousness, He was baptized. His own words.
This should not be asked to a Rabbi. Ask a priest instead.
If you like being a Christian, ask a priest instead.
@@ToviaSinger1 🤦♂
Rabbi Tovia knows the new testament more than most priests.
@julieellis2076 I am sure he does. But I see no point in asking a, say, atheist what he thinks about the features of God. Jewish belief system does not include either trinity nor Jesus as God (as a matter of fact, even very early Christianity did not include these belief items). Why would I ask a priest about circumcision? But I am sure this Mr Rabbi has insightful things to say on the matter. Yet, if I was him, what I would say is: This is none of my business.
Even more importantly is the fact that the priest were to thoroughly wash before enter the tent in ancient Israel. Exodus provides many procedures the Israelites were supposed to do to maintain the covenant, not the least of the procedure inside the tent. So, while God, through the Word, spoke and a perfect human was created and placed in the womb, and the person, being without sin, still needed to wash as you know the description given after he is baptized-coming immediately up out of the water the heavens were opened to him, the spirit of God descending upon him like a dove, and a voice was heard in heaven saying, this is my Son, the beloved. Apparently he had a conversation with himself 🙈. Then the spirit led him into the desert for 40 days he fasted. And more importantly, he prayed. Guess who he prayed to. Not himself, guess again.
That’s right. God. His Father. Speaking through the Word.
Then, God leaves him, withdraws his protection and Satan doesn’t take him down to the pits of some made up fire and brimstone. Nope. On top the highest mountain. Tempts him. Three temptation with pain so great his sweat was blood. I always wonder how that story would go had Jesus been God and he did a worship of Satan. I guess killing and disease and death would become Godly???
Not sure.
But a human, even perfect, like Adam was, could fail the test.
You see, it makes way more sense that GOD exists outside our time and space. For him to come here would end this universe. He created the Word, through which all things inside this universe would be.
The Word is not God. He is the commander. Jesus is more like the restorer.
Nicodemus said it well: I felt like the spirit of God was upon him and through him amongst us. But other pharisees didn't agree.
Jesus is a man, but the most holy. This story about the baptism reinforces the humility of Jesus and proves that baptism is functional since there are signs following the baptism including the dove and the speaking from the heavens. If you don't believe in these signs then don't believe in the rest of the story including that John met Jesus and was a baptizer by trade.
An odd common thread between John the Baptist and Jesus involves tax collectors. When tax collectors came to John to be baptized and asked what they should do to become righteous, John did not tell them to stop collecting taxes for Rome. He told them to collect no more than the appointed amount. This was an open and public declaration that the appointed amount was proper. Jesus was referred to as “a friend of tax collectors”; had a dinner party with tax collectors; stayed overnight with the chief tax collector, Zacchaeus, in Jericho; one of his disciples, Matthew, was a tax collector; declared not to give offense to the collector of the half-shekel tax; and stated, “Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.” No wonder Pontius Pilate openly defended Jesus against a mob in all four Gospels.
For those who might say Pilate’s open, public defense of Jesus was a later “adjustment” to the Gospels, the earliest Christian writings in Paul’s seven letters never blamed Jesus’ death on Rome. Paul evilly and abhorrently placed a blanket blame for Jesus’ death on the Jews (1 Thessalonians 2:14-15, c. 50 CE).
@@ryanfleming6896 Paul was a Jew himself. I've always thought it strange that people speak of his so-called anti-Semitism without at least acknowledging this.
Paul genuinely believed that Jesus was God in human form. I think it was a bit of a stretch to expect him to be positively disposed towards those who he held responsible for God's death.
Many Jews retained a dislike of Germans and Germany in precisely the same way after WW2. I don't remember many people denouncing this as an irrational hatred in the same terms as anti-semitism.
The trinity isnt Biblical, so there is nothing strange about Jesus being Baptized.
Jesus Himself said that only God is good:
Mark 10:18
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone.
Actually providing credible evidence for your god is the bigger problem.
God revealed Himself to the entire nation of Israel, at least three million people, and proclaimed before them the Ten Commandments.
@ "God revealed Himself to the entire nation of Israel," LOL. With out citing the bible how can you prove that? Good luck.
@@TboneWTF The Jewish people have an unbroken historical tradition to the very time of Sinai. Keep the 7 Noahide laws and leave them alone.
John baptised with water, when he was baptised the holy spirt came upon him and Jesus started his ministry. John the Baptist was a miracle birth of sorts like Isaac both his parents were elderly and God to Them Elizabeth would become pregnant and was to be called John and they wanted to call him Zechariah after his father, but Zechariah insisted he be called John
yes this is true, it was a custom in that time to name the child like his father, John was an exception
Wake up what holy spirit it's all a myth
@ It’s mentioned in Tanakh too
@@Legendkiller99 don't worry i am well awaken, since long time ago.
Yeshua and Yahia were cousins at 5.27
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Mark 14-51-52 is very shady
Just as you and I need to be baptized into Christ.
Jesus too needed to be baptised and anointed by God's minister, before he could begin his ministry.
John the baptist was of the Aaron priesthood like his Father. That's why relious leaders could not understand why he was in the desert and not in temples with him.
And then John's mother Elizabeth was directly related to Jesus's mother.
Gentiles need to keep the 7 Noahide laws.
Baptism represents death to the old nature, as the flood of Noah's time put all that were not on the ark to death. When one comes up out of the water your are rising up out of death in to the new nature of life, Notice when Jesus Comes up out of the water The holy spirit comes upon him in the form of a dove, parting the heavens resting upon him. Isaiah chapter 11
6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
John 18 :
28Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the *passover.* 29Pilate then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man? 30They answered and said unto him, If he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee. 31Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death: 32That the saying of Jesus might be fulfilled, which he spake, signifying what death he should die.
Psalms 27 :
1{A Psalm of David.} The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
*2When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.*
John 18 :
4Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said to them, Who do you seek? 5They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith to them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them. *6As soon then as he had said to them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.*
7:38 increíble
Jesus was God and man, he suffered hunger, he felt cold, he was betrayed he was tempted yet without sin. He was God and man, this is the mystery of God manifested in the flesh. No problem with the baptism. Also John the Baptist, asserts that Christ should be baptizing him, not he baptizing Christ. Yet Christ says, to fulfill righteousness, thereby validating the ministry of John, Christ is baptized.
God is not a man.
The question was a good one: why would God, in the human form of Jesus, need remission of sins. He's God!
I don't think I actually heard an answer to that question.
God does not have a body or any form.
Does not God in the old testament need animal sacrifice for sin. God by becoming human offers himself as the ultimate sacrifice for sin, for God so loved the world. People are broken only God can heal us. Look at Solomon who even the wisest person fell to corruption.
@@tonysuel5347 Keep the 7 Noahide laws and stop promoting idolatry.
John suffered from hallucinations and delusion and that would suggest schizophrenia. Did he " fly" over Patmos to be able to describe aerial geography? I think not. Just having another hallucination I guess. Shalom and G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
In my research, mark is an abbreviation of Matthew
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