He is a Villain, he does not have any empathy to the persons he killed, or a real importance on he's reputation. The only reason that could make sense to some people to be an anti-hero or something similar is because he got the change to defeat homelander. Is not about siding with soldier boy, it was about killing home lander and later deal with soldier boy. One thing is true, soldier boy is less chaotic than homelander, (but that might just be because he's powers aren't destructive as homelander), and like you said, he's better to reason with. But… yeah, he is a villain, he didn't do anything "good" the only thing is that he is honest with himself when it comes to that. Take the part when MM talk to him saying he killed he's family, and he responds which one. He knows he is evil, but he accepts that, not like homelander. Love your vids :d
@@esfratch Always fun to read your take on these things! 🔥 As always so far I completely agree with you😊 Loved the character and acting but yeah hes a bit twisted… Thank You, Love your comments! 🔥
Anti-Villain and as you said he has redeeming qualities, I could see him getting his own spin off or he'd become a real anti-hero because let's be he'll never be a hero but could really question and improve himself in his own series. Unlike Homelander, who took sadistic pleasure in killing all his terrorists in season 1, when he kills it's because he still thinks it's the right thing to do to fix the situation. And no, Soldier Boy isn't really a villain, he's just an asshole who needs to question himself and I sincerely pray that he gets his Spin-Off.
He’s definitely not a straight up Villain, he’s an Anti-Villain. He does have a moral compass, I mean he was willing to kill his own Biological Son to keep his promise to Butcher.
Honestly if there's any character in The Boys that deserves their own spinoff it has to be Soldier Boy. We haven't seen the full extent of what happened in his life before Homelander was born. It could be set in the 1940s, 50s, 60s and 70s. Maybe get more insight and depth on his childhood and see how he developed into an abusive tyrant. Also the stuff with World War 1 or 2 and the battle against the Soviets
That would be so good. Also making scenes like the desembark of Normandia with Soldier Boy there, showing the World War 2, and later Vietnam and the cold war against the URSS... there is so much content mixing real history with superhero content, and like you say, getting deeper in the evolution of Soldier Boy as a character. Much better than Gen V, but also a more expensive show... hope they go for it.
What didn’t fit right was his past version and his current version, in his past stories he was clearly evil like the rest of the bad heroes but he was more of an anti hero in the recent events. They kept saying he was really bad and worse than homelander but nothing indicated that
Actually we never saw him doing anything he likes,The version we saw just wanted to take revenge and abide by his deal with Butcher but after that what would he do, if he wasn't captured that is.
@@programmable_life He did say he wanted to settle down and have kids at some point, to raise them up "better than his father did", whether that would succeed is arguable but he definitely didn't seem to have some diabolical, dangerous plan to abuse his power after he concluded his mission, unlike Homelander
Being tortured for 40 years tends to humble you. I'm sure he was worse and he was oblivious to people hating him , now he knows and he's chilled more out , and butcher betrayed him like his team. So there's more ptsd
Homelander definitely bullies his team but he rarely lays hands on them…Soldier Boy outright beat the shit out of his team at times. Going off Noir who was with both of them that would make SB worse despite being more mentally stable. It’s not exactly a clean comparison…which is believe was the point…you can make a sound argument about why Soldier Boy would be a harder to beat final boss because he lacks Homelander’s instability but you can keep that reasoning and say that Homelander is more dangerous. I was (and still) on the belief that they should have followed through and killed Homelander and deal with SB later but Butcher pushing Ryan right into Homelander’s grasp made him stumble. That isn’t bad but it was a good thing at the wrong time…too little too late and all that shit
Villain? I honestly cannot see any action soldier boy did as evil, he fulfilled what was asked of him till the very end, he even put hughie in his place which was very much needed, had they never betrayed SB he’d have ended two current problems
If soldier boy know about the airplane incident he would 100 try to kill homelander, and he dosent believe he is superior to other jsut becuase he is a super.
I think the only reason soldier boy works so well is directly because of homelander, theyre both bad people but theyre opposites, homelamder is a man child obsessed with being loved, soldier boy is a mans man who takes it to the extreme, soldier boy wouldnt work nearly as well if we didnt have homelander to compare him to
Huh, it's kinda weird how in a way Soldier Boy is what Homelander wants to be while Homelander is what Soldier Boy wanted to prove he wasn't to his father
Excellent way to put it, soldier boy is an interesting character because he addresses toxic and fragile masculinity (although many fans do not realize this). (Although Homelander is better written, deeper and with more themes than soldier boy)
@@josemiashe’s a lot of things but idk if he’s racist…I mean he was partying and got roofied by bill Cosby 😂😂yea homophobic and sexist but idk about racist well at least not towards black people😂
@@ThatNerdKaizentrue but id say the difference between b and h is which drives their actions more. For b its clearly vengeance that drives him. Where for h its more like his actions are more reactions that are damage informed
@@J10005 No, relatable villains are over done and in a lot of cases that makes them less of a villain. Soldier Boy isn't even comparable to Homelander as a villain, idk why there's so much hype around him. He's a cool character fs but Homelander is the one who makes you uncomfortable and scared for other characters every time he's on screen. He's one of the best modern villains, probably ever.
Soldier Boy is a flawed person, but he's not a villain. He was callous, didn't care about collateral damage, and he bullied his team. None of those things make him a villain. He had a code of honor and killed to fulfill his missions, but only as part of his mission.What sealed it for me was when Hughie asked him about the explosion in Manhattan, soldier boy's response was, "I didn't mean to hurt those people." He was shaken and remorseful about it. He had no reason to lie or spin it it so hughie would help him, he already knew hughie was onboard for good or ill. He also didn't hide that he didn't care about hughie's opinions. A character like homelander would have blown it off with a smile or threatened hughie to not ask about it again.
@@kingol4801It can 100% be justified, first of all the accounts we have of that are only from Black Noir and Gunpowder’s reports. However think about it, Black Noir is okay with doing whatever Vought say (even horrible things) and stands by Homelander even though he’s just as bad as soldier boy, but it’s okay to Noir because Homelander is nice to HIM. Also whether or not Paybacks incompetence was deliberate or not they killed every single “allied” member of Grace’s team and Crimson Countess killed innocent people running from Frenchie and Kumiko. Gunpowder was also going to kill Butcher because he knew about the reports. So it’s not like Payback was exactly a great group of heroes.
The thing i feel about soldier boy is that deep down he hates himself. All his life he was treated terribly by his own father and used by vaught, which led him to develop an inferiority complex. He acts the way he does as a way to hide his pain. All he ever wanted was to be loved by his father, a father he could never please. Soldier boy had problems due to his father's neglect so much that he couldn't even keep up in school. So his father sent him to boarding school just to so he wouldn't be around him but of course he failed in that to. So having enough of him he called him a disappointment to which ben became soldier boy and becoming the greatest american hero hope it would change his father's mind but of course it still didn't work. Even after years have pasted and his father died the pain his father left him with turned into just as much as a terrible person as his father. He tried so hard not to believe his father was right about him but when he confronted homelander for the last time, seeing so much of the terrible person he himself was in his own son homelander he finally saw that his dad was right. Soldier wanted to raise his kids to be better them himself but in the end homelander became a darker reflection of him. When it comes down to it Soldier boy isn't evil like homelander or other supes but just a man who can't let go of the past who does horrible things to vent out his pain.
@@MovieF8the whole dilemma of 'Hero & Villain' is something that serves to give out 'meaning' as a concept, but it exemplifies the allegorical and paradoxical nature of trying to give out 'meaning' - for and against Humanity aka Human Nature or what it means to be 'Human'... 'Morality' as with other concepts/dilemma's such as 'Normality' - 'Good & E_iL, Hero & Villain' - etcetera, etcetera... it all stems from a subset of an 'idea' that forms a set of standards that gets objectified in (perceived) truth of what it's supposed to be as and what it should be... these 'ideas' are only stemmed or derived by the Human impulse/Genome regarding the Ideological factor of 'meaning', it's happening today as how it's always been happening since Humans have settled in...
Soldier Boy was never a villain. He was the actual hero the whole time. (Even if he has some terrible flaws) He was the only one that was willing to do what was necessary. Shoulda nuked Butcher and Homelander.
@@wumbosaur6111 I mean back then it was common for drill sergeants to hit disrespectful soldiers. He saw himself as the sergeant and his team as lower soldiers. Of course it isn’t justified however the 40s were overall just a different time which is the time he grew up in.
Yeah I don’t see him as a villain . More like a self obsessed douche bag who’s a hero . He usually thinks he’s doing the right thing despite there being innocent casualties around him . His only real offenses being how he treated his teammates , beating up noir for trying to take the spotlight , and accidentally throwing a car into monthers milks home . He didn’t even try and harm MM when he threw the gas at him .
To me he is an anti hero he just had to kill his own son as a promise otherwise he just wanted a bloodline and he just wanted revenge for what the team did to him to me.
he isnt a villain, hes a very powerful asshole. he can show honor and does not seem to take pleasure in killing innocent people, also during the payback fight scene, soldier boy is actively fighting the enemy forces.
Dude regularly abused his friends so many times that they were willing to risk their lives to put him down. He’s 100% a villain. A racist, sexist, homophobic, unstable, abusive, narcissistic villain. He’s by far my favourite character, but part of what makes him a good character is that he’s one of the few villains who actually tries to be a hero but sucks so much as a person that he’s still a villain
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner His "friends" are superheroes who the show shows that superheroes tend to be pretty bad people so him being abusive to them doesn't really generate much emotion from me or the rest of the audience I assume. "racist, sexist, homophobic" The guy was born in 1919 and his racism, sexism and homophobia for a successful man born on that year is very mild.
Black noir? Willing to kill anyone that comes infront him and killing homelander, naming every person who loves others a pussy? More a bully than a villain.
Soldier Boy is the real hero, he doesn’t relish in murder. He beats out Billy Butcher morally, as he doesn’t go back on his word. He’s paranoid sure, but it’s justified given what’s happened to him. I think Ryan and Soldier Boy will be the ones to finally wipe out Homelander as Billy Butcher is probably going to die next season. For a spin-off show though, what about “Soldier Boy: Hero of Heroes”.
I feel Soldier Boy is probably a better...... person than Homelander, not by much, of course, but I feel that, as you say, he does what he feels is right, I believe he does what he does because he actually cares about the people of America whereas Honelander only wants the love of the people or more simply, he wants them to care about him more than he cares about them. However, I have always wondered what Soldier Boy would have been like as a father to Homelander. Would he have really stepped aside for Honelander to take his place, or would he have been a terrible father? Either way, perhaps it might have made Homelander a better person if Soldier Boy was kept around and not given to the Russians. I'm not saying that he'd 100% be better, but there might be a chance.
Homelander would probably turned out far better had Soldier Boy raised him. He lacked people in his life to ground him. He broke a nurse on accident and took the wrong lesson that people are fragile insects. Even if he hated his father, he would at least had a relationship and dealt with someone who could kept him in line for most of his life. This would have grounded him so much more. I think Soldier boy would push Homelander be someone he could been proud of even if he thought his dad was overbearing. Homelander will actually strive to be a hero instead just pretending to be one. Homelander lost his way because there was no one with a firm hand to keep him in check. Even as an adult Homelander really just wanted a father in his life. He at the end of the day is a scared little boy who never learned how truly be a man. I believe both of them would been better for a relationship with each other.
I think past him bought into his cult of personality. The hype. So he acted like an entitled diva. I think the decades of captivity, betrayed and abandoned, gave him a lot of time to think about how fake it all was... And PTSD.
2:49 those women aren’t older than him he hasn’t aged since 1950 he’s like 120 years old. He looks like he’s in his 40s but a 60-year-old woman is half his age.
I think, that soldier boy more than anything, ia a superstar, but in contrast to homelander, and the essay in modern celebrity culture, that shows homelander constant need for approval, and how fast it can go away, soldier boy simply is. Henceforth he has absolutely no need to care for anybody else, and yet, he somewhat does! Even though he had severe daddy issues, he tried to love crimson countess, and was forgotten, imagine how much that would hurt. And i might add that he in fact somehow served his country, in black opp missions, and by being a symbol, and not only vought forgot him, but america, the love of his life, and his workmates, and yet, after all of that, he still kept true to his word. And saw the worst of himself in his son, homelander, giving him the chance to finally be better, holding my breath to see where they will take his journey! Amazing video!
Lowkey if he ever returns i can see him being the main villain cause hes literally coming after everyone the second hes out, butcher, the rest of the boys, even ryan and homelander
I hated his portrayal in Gen V. He should have been the fake persona, the All American good guy she would have known, not the real Soldier Boy. It was a huge plot hole.
I find it strange that people think SB is this morally ambiguous character when I think he was just a prototype Homelander. Someone made to be an extremely marketable topic. Like HL, he represents what was marketable during his time. Hard work, patriotism, a focus on nuclear family, and abstinence from drugs when he’s the complete opposite. He was born with a golden spoon in his mouth, probably takes enough drugs to put 1000 people in a catatonic state and doesn’t even know what it was like to be in the front lines, likely just buying into the the marketing. Whilst his relationship with Crimson Countess isn’t really explored, it’s clear that his affairs did have an affect on her if Mallory’s flashbacks are accurate in which she is physically annoyed by his advances in Mallory. But like HL, he does have an inflated ego of himself. In that parody anti-drug ad he’s angered at introducing himself claiming that the world knows who he is. Very similar to S2 where HL claims that even someone from the Middle East and no exposure to America could recognize him. He’s angered when Butcher claims HL took his spot, suggesting he thinks no one could ever achieve the acclaim and status he had. And most notably was the Black Noir incident, where he purposely sabotaged his chance at moving up in the world and violently assaulted him when he attempted to argue and threatened to kill him if Black Noir had ever attempted to rise above being his lackey. Overall, he’s just a bad person and the fact his team sold him out with the only compensation being they’d never deal with him again really shows that. He serves to reflect of Captain America as Homelander does Superman. Honelander delves into a Superman who’s treated as a product rather than a person. Soldier Boy showcases what happens when power is given to a person with horrendous ideals. His traits aren’t supposed to highlight him a nuanced person. They highlight that even evil people have their own traits and hobbies. Hitler still had things he probably enjoyed doing, but that wouldn’t stop him from being the personification of evil.
A spinoff with soldier boy, vaught, that weird doctor, stormfront and god knows all the many other unmentioned characters that contributed heavily into the supe creation would be a very cool and entertaining show!
I don’t think he ever became the antagonist. He was the only one who kept the deal. He was betrayed. His anger at the boys if/when he returns will be justified.
i dont understand why they made soldier boy a villain, all he did was swipe away ryan and his whole character dynamic changes, butcher should have realised ryan was fine and focused on homelander, it just seems so unlikely that he would switch so easily, he was so close to killing homelander and just throws it all away. soldier boy gets frozen and we're back to square fucking one. homelander is the villain and needs to be stopped, i dont understand why any of the characters got distracted, soldier boy is powerful and an asshole but hes not going to go out and kill people, its shown that homelander has done irredeemable things and will do more. the final fight was a fun spectacle but ultimately ruined the show a lot for me.
They should have let Soldier Boy do his thing. When push comes to shove, he does not want to burn the world to ash because of mommy issues. And that makes him infinitely better than Homelander.
The way things ended, Soldier Boy is the only hero left on the show. They f'ed up by having Billy turn on Soldier Boy after Soldier Boy kept his word with Billy to take out his own son!
I think the reason he is far less evil than he was in the past is because he was tortured for forty years with no hope of escape, realizing he’s not invincible humbled him, even if he’d never, ever, ever, ever, EVER, admit it.
i prefer soldier boy as a character. probably because we’ve been following homelander for multiple seasons. having a new semi antagonist was quite refreshing.
Okay!! Everyone keeps getting this wrong. He doesn't have a taste for older women. He's much older than they are Hell he's probably 50 years older than crimson countess. He just doesn't age because he was a man when he was experimented on.
The thing I like most about soldier boy is that he's a walking allegory for disempowering the capitalist/ruling class. Given that the radioactive blasts he fires from his chest can neutralize compound v and makes supes normal again.
I don't consider Soldier Boy a villain, I would say he is more like an anti hero but a really f*cked up one. Is he a good person? Hell no but he has a moral compass, he stands to his words and doesn't kill everyone like homelander does just because he can. He doesn what needs to be done, addresses things as they are and is not afraid of how people will react. Unlike Homelander, he actually seems to care about things and people atleast a little bit.
Soldier Boy was supremely entertaining. An unapologetically insensitive jerk in an era of super sanitized characters. Kripke had some real balls to write a character like this, and it really paid off
He is a villain….that ending with Homelander….he ended up deciding to go through with it because he was disgusted with him. He does seem to have morals but having morals won’t make someone an anti-hero, he is about himself and he is abusive. He’s the guy who embraced toxic masculinity and is shocked that others don’t have loyalty to him…somewhat understandable as society told him to be that. You could say he is a sympathetic villain at most
@@kingol4801 yeah being more complex than a one-dimensional cartoon villain doesn’t make a bad guy an anti-hero. They can be understood and related to but they’re still bad.
Actually when I debated with people I asked them why is Soldier Boy a villain (considering that Butcher and Kimiko somehow aren't') - NO LIBERAL could have answered me! Because he is not we just have to open our eyes and see that he is even better than many "heroes" in the show
Soldier boy reminds me of Shane from The Walking Dead in that he is a bit of a loose cannon but is not devoid of redeeming qualities ,planting a foot on either side of the line between villain and perhaps tragic anti hero? Antagonists like this set up a foil to allow other characters to develop while at the same time holds a mirror to the audience to reflect on their own morality- which can be as one dimensional as a reflection if viewed straight or imply extra depth and dimension if viewed from an angle
He's more like an antihero he's done some pretty horrible things but he's not straight up evil he's a very complicated character who toes that moraly Grey line
anti villain- does good things for the wrong reasons villain- does bad things for bad reasons hero-does good things for good reasons anti hero-does bad things for the right reasons
Soldier almost beat Black Noir to death because he tried getting a role for a movie because he wanted to be the only star. Saying that he doesn't care about fame is crazy dude
Homelander: person who has been controlled and abused his whole life and finally has enough. Soldier Boy: person who had too much freedom and abused it, which led to his dawnfall.
1. SB isn't a better villain and not a better character, je gets carried by cold lines. 2. SB is definitly also a villain, he is literally descriped as the orginal Homelander!
You're missing the point the point is Billy will bo anything to kill Homlander .... mothers milk will do anything to kill sb so Billy turns on mm ( his brother) to get his ending despite his all super are bad
Soldier Boy’s not necessarily a villain. He’s an anti hero or an anti villain. He’s morally questionable yet but he has a moral compass however flawed that moral compass is.
He physically abused Gunpowder, Homelander did a rape (likely several considering his character) Homelander is an actual threat to billions of lives, it would be evil of Soldier Boy to let him live because they're related, him refusing to go back on his word and trying to kill Homelander does not make him evil
If you listen to what Billy said to Gunpowder at the urinal you'll know Soldier Boy did some OTHER kind of abuse as well. Also, Soldier Boy actually seems way more likely to turn on innocents than Homelander. Homelander isn't a saint but at least with him you have a chance.
Both are insane villains, love them two. But I think Homelander is better as a Villain. It has so much juice. All his insecurities hidden under his insane power, the image hi wants to show and how he really is... its just insane, and the actor is too good. For me, Homelander is one of the best villains ever in a TV show. Soldier Boy is a TOP antagonist for a season, but I don't see him better than Homelander.
I understood why they let Homelander wonder with butcher, but in real life, Butcher and Soldier would have killed Homelander, and then Butcher and Soldier Boy would have gone on his merry way. I don't believe Soldier Boy would of stuck around much more and caused many issues
Taking a character that was that pathetic in the comic and turning him into literally the coolest meanest baddest mf on planet earth was probably THE BEST decision the show's writing team made, even if they completely bundle s5 this show will still be a milestone just for that I wish there was something like a prequel episode or a memory sequence where we see him actually interacting with Stormfront aka Liberty, that would've been really something 😂
Homelander is aware that he is mentally broken, and that his evil actions are caused by pleasure or lack of control. Soldier Boy believes he is a true hero, while he cannot or does not want to understand the fact that he did bad things. I believe that Soldier Boy is not hated like Homelander, because he simply appeared for a few episodes, while Homelander had dozens of scenes dedicated to him.
It's the way Antony Starr plays Homelander that makes him more dislikeable than Soldier Boy. Jensen Ackles has such a good looking face that I didn't see him as a villain even though he was playing one.
SB was fucked up in his own way but he actually felt bad for nuking bunch of people in the market.Something HL completely lacks. Don't know if he was actually as bad as his old teammates said , as he was kinda different when butcher rescued him .
Villain? I honestly cannot see any action soldier boy did as evil, he fulfilled what was asked of him till the very end, he even put hughie in his place which was very much needed, had they never betrayed SB he’d have ended two current problems
Soldier Boy slapping Hughie when he called him out about on his BS. Sums him perfectly he is not a mad psycho with a god Complex like homelander. he doesn't just kill anybody on a whim he Hughie insults to his face and he got pissed off but unlike homelander he doesn't view normal people as inferior. I believe Soldier Boy is more Human after all he lived almost all his life as a normal human taking V in his 20s a couple of years before he is captured by the Russians.
I really, really like Soldier Boy. But I can’t because of what he did to Noir and his motivations behind it. If they took that out id think he was great!
Soldier boy is a bad guy, his goal is revenge all the way through but he's also good in the way that he agrees to fight with the main villain, which could in theory, create an "anti-villain" he is a villain but he does whatever he wants, including good things
Where do you stand on Soldier Boy?
Is he a Hero, Anti-Hero, Anti-Villain or Villain?
He is a Villain, he does not have any empathy to the persons he killed, or a real importance on he's reputation. The only reason that could make sense to some people to be an anti-hero or something similar is because he got the change to defeat homelander. Is not about siding with soldier boy, it was about killing home lander and later deal with soldier boy. One thing is true, soldier boy is less chaotic than homelander, (but that might just be because he's powers aren't destructive as homelander), and like you said, he's better to reason with. But… yeah, he is a villain, he didn't do anything "good" the only thing is that he is honest with himself when it comes to that. Take the part when MM talk to him saying he killed he's family, and he responds which one. He knows he is evil, but he accepts that, not like homelander. Love your vids :d
Anti-Hero - Soldier boy is Soldier boy
@@esfratch Always fun to read your take on these things! 🔥 As always so far I completely agree with you😊 Loved the character and acting but yeah hes a bit twisted…
Thank You, Love your comments! 🔥
Anti-Villain and as you said he has redeeming qualities, I could see him getting his own spin off or he'd become a real anti-hero because let's be he'll never be a hero but could really question and improve himself in his own series.
Unlike Homelander, who took sadistic pleasure in killing all his terrorists in season 1, when he kills it's because he still thinks it's the right thing to do to fix the situation.
And no, Soldier Boy isn't really a villain, he's just an asshole who needs to question himself and I sincerely pray that he gets his Spin-Off.
Villain.
He’s definitely not a straight up Villain, he’s an Anti-Villain. He does have a moral compass, I mean he was willing to kill his own Biological Son to keep his promise to Butcher.
Wouldn’t that just make him lawful evil?
@@elijahhayter3026i think it would if his son wasn't so clearly already independently evil
@@Jurbo33 I always saw HL as neutral evil.
Well anyone who knows what he did to Gunpowder knows he's not straight...
@@elijahhayter3026boy do you need to get your eye check then. HL is not even on lawful-neutral-chaotic chart. He's Pure Evil
Honestly if there's any character in The Boys that deserves their own spinoff it has to be Soldier Boy. We haven't seen the full extent of what happened in his life before Homelander was born. It could be set in the 1940s, 50s, 60s and 70s. Maybe get more insight and depth on his childhood and see how he developed into an abusive tyrant. Also the stuff with World War 1 or 2 and the battle against the Soviets
We just need The boys prequel. My favorite episodes are the flashback 😭
That would be so good. Also making scenes like the desembark of Normandia with Soldier Boy there, showing the World War 2, and later Vietnam and the cold war against the URSS... there is so much content mixing real history with superhero content, and like you say, getting deeper in the evolution of Soldier Boy as a character. Much better than Gen V, but also a more expensive show... hope they go for it.
Agreed, would love to see how theyll handle wit his backstory
Nice profile pic
They probably have spin off after boys get over .
What didn’t fit right was his past version and his current version, in his past stories he was clearly evil like the rest of the bad heroes but he was more of an anti hero in the recent events. They kept saying he was really bad and worse than homelander but nothing indicated that
Actually we never saw him doing anything he likes,The version we saw just wanted to take revenge and abide by his deal with Butcher but after that what would he do, if he wasn't captured that is.
@@programmable_life He did say he wanted to settle down and have kids at some point, to raise them up "better than his father did", whether that would succeed is arguable but he definitely didn't seem to have some diabolical, dangerous plan to abuse his power after he concluded his mission, unlike Homelander
Being tortured for 40 years tends to humble you. I'm sure he was worse and he was oblivious to people hating him , now he knows and he's chilled more out , and butcher betrayed him like his team. So there's more ptsd
Homelander definitely bullies his team but he rarely lays hands on them…Soldier Boy outright beat the shit out of his team at times. Going off Noir who was with both of them that would make SB worse despite being more mentally stable. It’s not exactly a clean comparison…which is believe was the point…you can make a sound argument about why Soldier Boy would be a harder to beat final boss because he lacks Homelander’s instability but you can keep that reasoning and say that Homelander is more dangerous. I was (and still) on the belief that they should have followed through and killed Homelander and deal with SB later but Butcher pushing Ryan right into Homelander’s grasp made him stumble. That isn’t bad but it was a good thing at the wrong time…too little too late and all that shit
Villain? I honestly cannot see any action soldier boy did as evil, he fulfilled what was asked of him till the very end, he even put hughie in his place which was very much needed, had they never betrayed SB he’d have ended two current problems
Soldier Boy is a better person than Homelander. Which is not really an achievement.
Hey, I’d feel way more comfortable living in a world with Soldier Boy than Homelander
@@louiswalusimbi8006unless you live in a black neighbourhood
I mean he is a douche but nowhere near the pile of psycho shit that is Homelander.
Like saying that a carnival being more civil when he uses a knife and a fork
If soldier boy know about the airplane incident he would 100 try to kill homelander, and he dosent believe he is superior to other jsut becuase he is a super.
I think the only reason soldier boy works so well is directly because of homelander, theyre both bad people but theyre opposites, homelamder is a man child obsessed with being loved, soldier boy is a mans man who takes it to the extreme, soldier boy wouldnt work nearly as well if we didnt have homelander to compare him to
Huh, it's kinda weird how in a way Soldier Boy is what Homelander wants to be while Homelander is what Soldier Boy wanted to prove he wasn't to his father
Excellent way to put it, soldier boy is an interesting character because he addresses toxic and fragile masculinity (although many fans do not realize this).
(Although Homelander is better written, deeper and with more themes than soldier boy)
Im adding him to my dream blunt rotation
All fun and games until he sees a black guy
@@josemiashe’s a lot of things but idk if he’s racist…I mean he was partying and got roofied by bill Cosby 😂😂yea homophobic and sexist but idk about racist well at least not towards black people😂
Didnt he say he loves bill cosby?
I like Cosby 😈
@@TitoFrito5445 let him bring beverages to the blunt rotation
Homelander : damaged villain
Butcher : vengeful antihero
Soldier boy : flawed hero
Imagine hero killing a child family because they are black
It’s kinda interesting cause you can say both homelander and Butcher are both damaged
tf are you on?? soldier boy ain't no hero. look at what he did to MM's family and to black noir. it's straight up hate crime.
@@ThatNerdKaizentrue but id say the difference between b and h is which drives their actions more. For b its clearly vengeance that drives him. Where for h its more like his actions are more reactions that are damage informed
if you think Soldier Boy is a hero in any sort of way you need to go back and watch the show again
I didn't question anything, I loved soldier boy haha. I hope he comes back wearing the black noir suit just to really mess with homelander's head .
Fuckin perfect top tier idea
Considering with how Black Noir was treated in the comics, that'd be perfect imo
Hell of an idea bro. They might as well do it. 😅
Not even a debate, I was rooting for Soldier Boy till the end. I hope he comes back.
Edit after the finale: Yessir!!! 🗿🗿
You rooting for Soldier Boy proves Homelander being a better villain lol.
@@The__Deadman Well, yeah obviously. Since Soldier is not even a villain.
@@The__DeadmanIt makes him a slightly more complex villain since you can empathize with him more.
@@J10005 No, relatable villains are over done and in a lot of cases that makes them less of a villain.
Soldier Boy isn't even comparable to Homelander as a villain, idk why there's so much hype around him. He's a cool character fs but Homelander is the one who makes you uncomfortable and scared for other characters every time he's on screen. He's one of the best modern villains, probably ever.
@@Jere746 Depents on who you ask cause he is really a piece of shit. But yeah compared to Homelander he's not.
Soldier Boy is a flawed person, but he's not a villain. He was callous, didn't care about collateral damage, and he bullied his team. None of those things make him a villain. He had a code of honor and killed to fulfill his missions, but only as part of his mission.What sealed it for me was when Hughie asked him about the explosion in Manhattan, soldier boy's response was, "I didn't mean to hurt those people." He was shaken and remorseful about it. He had no reason to lie or spin it it so hughie would help him, he already knew hughie was onboard for good or ill. He also didn't hide that he didn't care about hughie's opinions. A character like homelander would have blown it off with a smile or threatened hughie to not ask about it again.
No. Abuse is definitely a villainous thing to do.
In fact, abuse cannot be justified period, whereas murder can conditionally.
@@kingol4801Abuse can defended
@@ryanarment5393 Birmingham incident and daily plaza rumors make him pure evil
@@ytprv1890soldier boy abused his team for his own self benefit lmao he was just a more likeable villain than Homelander
@@kingol4801It can 100% be justified, first of all the accounts we have of that are only from Black Noir and Gunpowder’s reports. However think about it, Black Noir is okay with doing whatever Vought say (even horrible things) and stands by Homelander even though he’s just as bad as soldier boy, but it’s okay to Noir because Homelander is nice to HIM. Also whether or not Paybacks incompetence was deliberate or not they killed every single “allied” member of Grace’s team and Crimson Countess killed innocent people running from Frenchie and Kumiko. Gunpowder was also going to kill Butcher because he knew about the reports. So it’s not like Payback was exactly a great group of heroes.
The thing i feel about soldier boy is that deep down he hates himself. All his life he was treated terribly by his own father and used by vaught, which led him to develop an inferiority complex. He acts the way he does as a way to hide his pain. All he ever wanted was to be loved by his father, a father he could never please. Soldier boy had problems due to his father's neglect so much that he couldn't even keep up in school. So his father sent him to boarding school just to so he wouldn't be around him but of course he failed in that to. So having enough of him he called him a disappointment to which ben became soldier boy and becoming the greatest american hero hope it would change his father's mind but of course it still didn't work. Even after years have pasted and his father died the pain his father left him with turned into just as much as a terrible person as his father. He tried so hard not to believe his father was right about him but when he confronted homelander for the last time, seeing so much of the terrible person he himself was in his own son homelander he finally saw that his dad was right. Soldier wanted to raise his kids to be better them himself but in the end homelander became a darker reflection of him. When it comes down to it Soldier boy isn't evil like homelander or other supes but just a man who can't let go of the past who does horrible things to vent out his pain.
@EvilBoyGenius666 Agree!💯 You can really feel for most of the characters in The Boys, Hats off to the writers and hats off to you for this comment! 🔥
@@MovieF8 thanks. And thanks for making the video.
@@Errorvirus404 Thank You!🤝
@@MovieF8the whole dilemma of 'Hero & Villain' is something that serves to give out 'meaning' as a concept, but it exemplifies the allegorical and paradoxical nature of trying to give out 'meaning' - for and against Humanity aka Human Nature or what it means to be 'Human'...
'Morality' as with other concepts/dilemma's such as 'Normality' - 'Good & E_iL, Hero & Villain' - etcetera, etcetera...
it all stems from a subset of an 'idea' that forms a set of standards that gets objectified in (perceived) truth of what it's supposed to be as and what it should be...
these 'ideas' are only stemmed or derived by the Human impulse/Genome regarding the Ideological factor of 'meaning', it's happening today as how it's always been happening since Humans have settled in...
Soldier Boy was never a villain. He was the actual hero the whole time. (Even if he has some terrible flaws) He was the only one that was willing to do what was necessary. Shoulda nuked Butcher and Homelander.
Soldier boy was the villain. What he did to black noir and them before they turned on him (causing them to turn on him) was evil.
@@wumbosaur6111 I mean back then it was common for drill sergeants to hit disrespectful soldiers. He saw himself as the sergeant and his team as lower soldiers. Of course it isn’t justified however the 40s were overall just a different time which is the time he grew up in.
Yeah I don’t see him as a villain . More like a self obsessed douche bag who’s a hero . He usually thinks he’s doing the right thing despite there being innocent casualties around him . His only real offenses being how he treated his teammates , beating up noir for trying to take the spotlight , and accidentally throwing a car into monthers milks home . He didn’t even try and harm MM when he threw the gas at him .
@@xxxD3FC0N_1xxx no one did it like him and noir was never disrespectful
@@wumbosaur6111 i think he means current soldier boy who wa humbled by 40 years of torture
Soldier Boy is most definitely the highlight of season 3.
To me he is an anti hero he just had to kill his own son as a promise otherwise he just wanted a bloodline and he just wanted revenge for what the team did to him to me.
He is very abusive, racist and kills people for fun.
he isnt a villain, hes a very powerful asshole. he can show honor and does not seem to take pleasure in killing innocent people, also during the payback fight scene, soldier boy is actively fighting the enemy forces.
Dude regularly abused his friends so many times that they were willing to risk their lives to put him down. He’s 100% a villain. A racist, sexist, homophobic, unstable, abusive, narcissistic villain.
He’s by far my favourite character, but part of what makes him a good character is that he’s one of the few villains who actually tries to be a hero but sucks so much as a person that he’s still a villain
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner His "friends" are superheroes who the show shows that superheroes tend to be pretty bad people so him being abusive to them doesn't really generate much emotion from me or the rest of the audience I assume. "racist, sexist, homophobic" The guy was born in 1919 and his racism, sexism and homophobia for a successful man born on that year is very mild.
In the show it didnt look like he have problem with gay people or black people or that he was sexist.
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner only proof of that is black noirs cartoons we see no actual evidence of him doing that
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubnerwhere do you see racism, homophobia is good and normal for people his age to
I love the fact bro just picks up the gas bomb and just smokes it
he's so sigma skibidi toilet he smoked the bomb woof woof woof
He's absolutely not a villain. I hate how they did him at the end.
He molested gunpowder……
MM and black noir: ............
Black noir? Willing to kill anyone that comes infront him and killing homelander, naming every person who loves others a pussy? More a bully than a villain.
It's not the end for him yet
Soldier Boy is the real hero, he doesn’t relish in murder. He beats out Billy Butcher morally, as he doesn’t go back on his word. He’s paranoid sure, but it’s justified given what’s happened to him. I think Ryan and Soldier Boy will be the ones to finally wipe out Homelander as Billy Butcher is probably going to die next season. For a spin-off show though, what about “Soldier Boy: Hero of Heroes”.
His show "Hero of Heroes". I like that
Jenson really knocked it out of the park with his performance.
@Barot8 Agreed💯
I feel Soldier Boy is probably a better...... person than Homelander, not by much, of course, but I feel that, as you say, he does what he feels is right, I believe he does what he does because he actually cares about the people of America whereas Honelander only wants the love of the people or more simply, he wants them to care about him more than he cares about them.
However, I have always wondered what Soldier Boy would have been like as a father to Homelander. Would he have really stepped aside for Honelander to take his place, or would he have been a terrible father? Either way, perhaps it might have made Homelander a better person if Soldier Boy was kept around and not given to the Russians. I'm not saying that he'd 100% be better, but there might be a chance.
@Foxster_13 Agreed!💯 Doubt that Homelander would be worse but got a feeling that season 4 will bring some surprises 😄
Homelander would probably turned out far better had Soldier Boy raised him. He lacked people in his life to ground him. He broke a nurse on accident and took the wrong lesson that people are fragile insects. Even if he hated his father, he would at least had a relationship and dealt with someone who could kept him in line for most of his life. This would have grounded him so much more. I think Soldier boy would push Homelander be someone he could been proud of even if he thought his dad was overbearing. Homelander will actually strive to be a hero instead just pretending to be one. Homelander lost his way because there was no one with a firm hand to keep him in check. Even as an adult Homelander really just wanted a father in his life. He at the end of the day is a scared little boy who never learned how truly be a man. I believe both of them would been better for a relationship with each other.
I think past him bought into his cult of personality. The hype. So he acted like an entitled diva. I think the decades of captivity, betrayed and abandoned, gave him a lot of time to think about how fake it all was... And PTSD.
The first time i ended tge entire season 3 i was like 'soldier boy= the goat'
2:49 those women aren’t older than him he hasn’t aged since 1950 he’s like 120 years old. He looks like he’s in his 40s but a 60-year-old woman is half his age.
I think, that soldier boy more than anything, ia a superstar, but in contrast to homelander, and the essay in modern celebrity culture, that shows homelander constant need for approval, and how fast it can go away, soldier boy simply is. Henceforth he has absolutely no need to care for anybody else, and yet, he somewhat does! Even though he had severe daddy issues, he tried to love crimson countess, and was forgotten, imagine how much that would hurt. And i might add that he in fact somehow served his country, in black opp missions, and by being a symbol, and not only vought forgot him, but america, the love of his life, and his workmates, and yet, after all of that, he still kept true to his word. And saw the worst of himself in his son, homelander, giving him the chance to finally be better, holding my breath to see where they will take his journey! Amazing video!
@molom1741 Amazing Comment! 🔥
On point
Lowkey if he ever returns i can see him being the main villain cause hes literally coming after everyone the second hes out, butcher, the rest of the boys, even ryan and homelander
I hated his portrayal in Gen V.
He should have been the fake persona, the All American good guy she would have known, not the real Soldier Boy. It was a huge plot hole.
I always found Soldier Boy to be a crossover between Captain America and Big Boss. Simply having swapped the eyepatch out for a bad attitude 🤩
@87krull 😂🔥
I find it strange that people think SB is this morally ambiguous character when I think he was just a prototype Homelander. Someone made to be an extremely marketable topic. Like HL, he represents what was marketable during his time. Hard work, patriotism, a focus on nuclear family, and abstinence from drugs when he’s the complete opposite. He was born with a golden spoon in his mouth, probably takes enough drugs to put 1000 people in a catatonic state and doesn’t even know what it was like to be in the front lines, likely just buying into the the marketing. Whilst his relationship with Crimson Countess isn’t really explored, it’s clear that his affairs did have an affect on her if Mallory’s flashbacks are accurate in which she is physically annoyed by his advances in Mallory.
But like HL, he does have an inflated ego of himself. In that parody anti-drug ad he’s angered at introducing himself claiming that the world knows who he is. Very similar to S2 where HL claims that even someone from the Middle East and no exposure to America could recognize him. He’s angered when Butcher claims HL took his spot, suggesting he thinks no one could ever achieve the acclaim and status he had. And most notably was the Black Noir incident, where he purposely sabotaged his chance at moving up in the world and violently assaulted him when he attempted to argue and threatened to kill him if Black Noir had ever attempted to rise above being his lackey.
Overall, he’s just a bad person and the fact his team sold him out with the only compensation being they’d never deal with him again really shows that. He serves to reflect of Captain America as Homelander does Superman.
Honelander delves into a Superman who’s treated as a product rather than a person.
Soldier Boy showcases what happens when power is given to a person with horrendous ideals.
His traits aren’t supposed to highlight him a nuanced person. They highlight that even evil people have their own traits and hobbies. Hitler still had things he probably enjoyed doing, but that wouldn’t stop him from being the personification of evil.
I he'd won the fight, he might have joined the Seven.
I'm just imagining poor Ashley having to deal with him...
Ashley survived Homelander, Soldier Boy would be a much easier for her
I think she'd have a waaay easier time with Soldier Boy ! Hell, he may even hit on her a few decades later...
I was 100% rooting against the boys and Homelander in that season final battle
A spinoff with soldier boy, vaught, that weird doctor, stormfront and god knows all the many other unmentioned characters that contributed heavily into the supe creation would be a very cool and entertaining show!
I'd hate to be that guy, but Homelander was solidly winning when it was one on one.
It took three guys with super strength to even hurt him.
He wouldn't kill soldier boy tho. In the end it took almost all the heroes to hold down soldier boy.
If it was a 1v1 match to the death, I'm betting on Homelander.
When it's JUST the two of them Homelander is noticeably winning.
@@JohnnyWolfbloodidk bout that soldier boy can de power homelander
now ryan is more powerful than his father, grandfather and step father
He was depowored in their first fight , because he just nuclear blasted
I don’t think he ever became the antagonist. He was the only one who kept the deal. He was betrayed. His anger at the boys if/when he returns will be justified.
If captain america had an average discord humor and admire sigma edits as the peak of masculinity
i dont understand why they made soldier boy a villain, all he did was swipe away ryan and his whole character dynamic changes, butcher should have realised ryan was fine and focused on homelander, it just seems so unlikely that he would switch so easily, he was so close to killing homelander and just throws it all away. soldier boy gets frozen and we're back to square fucking one. homelander is the villain and needs to be stopped, i dont understand why any of the characters got distracted, soldier boy is powerful and an asshole but hes not going to go out and kill people, its shown that homelander has done irredeemable things and will do more. the final fight was a fun spectacle but ultimately ruined the show a lot for me.
This script sounds like it was generated by chatgpt, the future of youtube is looking bright lol
Even account owner is liking every comment like bot
They should have let Soldier Boy do his thing.
When push comes to shove, he does not want to burn the world to ash because of mommy issues. And that makes him infinitely better than Homelander.
The way things ended, Soldier Boy is the only hero left on the show. They f'ed up by having Billy turn on Soldier Boy after Soldier Boy kept his word with Billy to take out his own son!
I think the reason he is far less evil than he was in the past is because he was tortured for forty years with no hope of escape, realizing he’s not invincible humbled him, even if he’d never, ever, ever, ever, EVER, admit it.
i prefer soldier boy as a character. probably because we’ve been following homelander for multiple seasons. having a new semi antagonist was quite refreshing.
Okay!! Everyone keeps getting this wrong. He doesn't have a taste for older women. He's much older than they are Hell he's probably 50 years older than crimson countess.
He just doesn't age because he was a man when he was experimented on.
he's an asshole but let's be honest the fact that he sticks to his promise says something about him
Dake
@@JasonCan-wp2fu I say uhhhhh she say do u love me i tell her only partly i only love my men and my bed im sorry
and what he did to noir and MM's family.. what does that say about him?
@@thenewclassic8944 that he's a psychopath, forgot to mention
we need this man save the season🙏
He may have attacked his team but it’s not like they where all angels, they where murders and show pony’s for hire as much as he was
The thing I like most about soldier boy is that he's a walking allegory for disempowering the capitalist/ruling class. Given that the radioactive blasts he fires from his chest can neutralize compound v and makes supes normal again.
If Captain America let PTSD get the better of him.
I don't consider Soldier Boy a villain, I would say he is more like an anti hero but a really f*cked up one.
Is he a good person? Hell no but he has a moral compass, he stands to his words and doesn't kill everyone like homelander does just because he can.
He doesn what needs to be done, addresses things as they are and is not afraid of how people will react. Unlike Homelander, he actually seems to care about things and people atleast a little bit.
Soldier Boy was supremely entertaining. An unapologetically insensitive jerk in an era of super sanitized characters. Kripke had some real balls to write a character like this, and it really paid off
Villain?
Bruh he was great.
He is like a more alcholic version of Ultimate Captain America lol
Soldier boy needs his own show.
They just declared that it will be a thing,
I would love to see a Soldier Boy spinoff of some sort.
He is a villain….that ending with Homelander….he ended up deciding to go through with it because he was disgusted with him. He does seem to have morals but having morals won’t make someone an anti-hero, he is about himself and he is abusive. He’s the guy who embraced toxic masculinity and is shocked that others don’t have loyalty to him…somewhat understandable as society told him to be that. You could say he is a sympathetic villain at most
I am glad you understood the message so well.
Most people get taken ahold by the actor’s charisma and ignore what he stands for entirely…
@@kingol4801 yeah being more complex than a one-dimensional cartoon villain doesn’t make a bad guy an anti-hero. They can be understood and related to but they’re still bad.
"toxic masculinity" lol, its a made up word only spoken by little girls.
"Toxic Masculinity" really? Woke for life then I guess 😂
Actually when I debated with people I asked them why is Soldier Boy a villain (considering that Butcher and Kimiko somehow aren't') - NO LIBERAL could have answered me! Because he is not we just have to open our eyes and see that he is even better than many "heroes" in the show
Are these "liberals" in the room with you right now?
@@MouldMadeMind What???
Soldier boy reminds me of Shane from The Walking Dead in that he is a bit of a loose cannon but is not devoid of redeeming qualities ,planting a foot on either side of the line between villain and perhaps tragic anti hero?
Antagonists like this set up a foil to allow other characters to develop while at the same time holds a mirror to the audience to reflect on their own morality- which can be as one dimensional as a reflection if viewed straight or imply extra depth and dimension if viewed from an angle
He's more like an antihero he's done some pretty horrible things but he's not straight up evil he's a very complicated character who toes that moraly Grey line
anti villain- does good things for the wrong reasons
villain- does bad things for bad reasons
hero-does good things for good reasons
anti hero-does bad things for the right reasons
Soldier almost beat Black Noir to death because he tried getting a role for a movie because he wanted to be the only star. Saying that he doesn't care about fame is crazy dude
Stannis mentioned, I’m sold.
Season 1: Homelander
Season 2: Stormfront
Season 3: Soldier Boy
Season 4: ???
Probably Tek-Knight, I think.
@jachymos But Tek Knight is a hero, though. He's just super weird
@@Anunnaki_Gula wasnt he like "if there's a hole, there's a way?"
Neuman I think Then season 5 Ryan and solider boy.
I like soldier boy more bcs he seems more socially adjusted , with homelander you can tell he grew up in a lab and has little charisma
Just have to remember soldier boy is about 100 years old. So you get old man sensibilities without the old body
I'm not a fucking supervillain.
Homelander: person who has been controlled and abused his whole life and finally has enough.
Soldier Boy: person who had too much freedom and abused it, which led to his dawnfall.
I thought Soldier Boy was an okay guy until I saw Black Noir’s flashbacks in that restaurant. But yes, I loved the moral dilemma during that fight.
1. SB isn't a better villain and not a better character, je gets carried by cold lines.
2. SB is definitly also a villain, he is literally descriped as the orginal Homelander!
Imo it's not close. Homelander is the heart of the show and more entertaining to watch.
You're missing the point the point is Billy will bo anything to kill Homlander .... mothers milk will do anything to kill sb so Billy turns on mm ( his brother) to get his ending despite his all super are bad
he is a hero for me and he is the best character for me , and soldier boy is a real man so i hope to see him again
Soldier Boy’s not necessarily a villain. He’s an anti hero or an anti villain. He’s morally questionable yet but he has a moral compass however flawed that moral compass is.
He's not a villain, probably is an anti-hero but definitely not a villain
Homelander: Psychopath villain
Butcher: Anti-hero blinded by revenge
Soldier boy: Rambo with PTSD and superpowers brought back to life
Jensen Ackles made that character. He’s charismatic and really came through for that role. He’s really the only reason why I’d want to watch the show.
guys what's the technique or the effect used on Jensen at 6:59 I'm searching but I cant find anything
He is not villain he is our idol
He is not a better Villain, he is a great Anti-Hero. Like Butcher, just as a separate entity/faction.
he's NOT an anti-hero. have you even watched the show??
@@thenewclassic8944 hAvE yOu EvEn WaTcHeD tHe ShoW?
quick tip: please mix the clips not louder than your voice over. thanks. :)
Also, do you remember what he did to Gunpowder?
Also he tried to kill his son.
Homelander is definitely the lesser of two evils.
He physically abused Gunpowder, Homelander did a rape (likely several considering his character)
Homelander is an actual threat to billions of lives, it would be evil of Soldier Boy to let him live because they're related, him refusing to go back on his word and trying to kill Homelander does not make him evil
If you listen to what Billy said to Gunpowder at the urinal you'll know Soldier Boy did some OTHER kind of abuse as well.
Also, Soldier Boy actually seems way more likely to turn on innocents than Homelander.
Homelander isn't a saint but at least with him you have a chance.
His son is a psychopath
@@Blanke-i3h yeah honestly if my child ever does something like Homelander i would probobly commit a murder-suicide.
Soldier Boy 2024 7:02 😂😂😂
He's doesn't have enough world influence to be a big enough threat as a villain
Both are insane villains, love them two. But I think Homelander is better as a Villain. It has so much juice. All his insecurities hidden under his insane power, the image hi wants to show and how he really is... its just insane, and the actor is too good. For me, Homelander is one of the best villains ever in a TV show. Soldier Boy is a TOP antagonist for a season, but I don't see him better than Homelander.
I wouldn’t say better than Homelander but he’s definitely a good antagonist
You all just completely forget what he did to black noir 🤦♂️
I understood why they let Homelander wonder with butcher, but in real life, Butcher and Soldier would have killed Homelander, and then Butcher and Soldier Boy would have gone on his merry way. I don't believe Soldier Boy would of stuck around much more and caused many issues
Because he's a Real Man🗿
Homelander is Joffrey, Soldier Boy is Ramsay
@WakingTheDemon04 Nice One!🔥
Nice analysis
Really good analysis
Taking a character that was that pathetic in the comic and turning him into literally the coolest meanest baddest mf on planet earth was probably THE BEST decision the show's writing team made, even if they completely bundle s5 this show will still be a milestone just for that
I wish there was something like a prequel episode or a memory sequence where we see him actually interacting with Stormfront aka Liberty, that would've been really something 😂
Homelander is aware that he is mentally broken, and that his evil actions are caused by pleasure or lack of control.
Soldier Boy believes he is a true hero, while he cannot or does not want to understand the fact that he did bad things.
I believe that Soldier Boy is not hated like Homelander, because he simply appeared for a few episodes, while Homelander had dozens of scenes dedicated to him.
It's the way Antony Starr plays Homelander that makes him more dislikeable than Soldier Boy. Jensen Ackles has such a good looking face that I didn't see him as a villain even though he was playing one.
He's not a bad guy
When I grow up, I wanna be like Jensen Ackles 😊
He has his code of conduct, An Anti-villain for me.
SB was fucked up in his own way but he actually felt bad for nuking bunch of people in the market.Something HL completely lacks. Don't know if he was actually as bad as his old teammates said , as he was kinda different when butcher rescued him .
Bring him back! My favorite character thus far. Jensen is handsome, charismatic and hilarious. I can't imagine they'd keep him bottled up in Season 4.
Villain? I honestly cannot see any action soldier boy did as evil, he fulfilled what was asked of him till the very end, he even put hughie in his place which was very much needed, had they never betrayed SB he’d have ended two current problems
I know we wouldn’t have a show if not for The Boys,, But,, let’s be honest Homelander would have killed all of them by now…
Soldier Boy slapping Hughie when he called him out about on his BS. Sums him perfectly he is not a mad psycho with a god Complex like homelander. he doesn't just kill anybody on a whim he Hughie insults to his face and he got pissed off but unlike homelander he doesn't view normal people as inferior.
I believe Soldier Boy is more Human after all he lived almost all his life as a normal human taking V in his 20s a couple of years before he is captured by the Russians.
I really, really like Soldier Boy. But I can’t because of what he did to Noir and his motivations behind it. If they took that out id think he was great!
But that's just how Black Noir remembers it, and Black Noir is a murderer too... so~
He just seems like the comedian but actually evil 🤷🏽♂️
Soldier boy is a bad guy, his goal is revenge all the way through but he's also good in the way that he agrees to fight with the main villain, which could in theory, create an "anti-villain" he is a villain but he does whatever he wants, including good things