Well he is a first class SOLDIER. The other 1st class before him were big enemy bosses so, he's probably on that level too. As for Cloud, he isn't really 1st class. But he does get stronger with every tragedy he goes through just as what Sephiroth mentioned in FF7R.
I never really hate genesis. He just really hate shinra and he wants to save himself from degration. Shinra is guilty for his problem and Hollander is the one behind this misery. He even asked Zack to join him against shinra in Banora. If Genesis wasn’t so annoying with those Lovesless crap and actually explain to people, things would have turned a lot easier = =
It was actually stated that Weiss and Nero retrieve Genesis in the original, hence why he appears at the end of Dirdge of Cerberus, but yeah they made it more obvious to identify them, as oppose to the original where they had a standard SOLDIER first class model.
It's interesting that Genesis Did NOT died in Crisis Core, but for some reason idk he doesn't appear in FF7 and only appear in a secret cutscene of Dirge of Cerberus
It is very likely that he will appear in FF7 Rebirth. Weiss and Nero were already introduced in the 7 Remake dlc. Not to mention that this Crisis Core Reunion came out just now, because since the 7 remake, there are traces of time travel, and the Rebirth trailer already starts showing the past, so it is very likely that Genesis will appear again.
@@staullerfair5458 So, Square enix idea with this Remake of 7 is precisely to fit in all these characters that were left out and only appeared through standalone games, like Weiss and Nero, and be fitted in the main game. If I'm not mistaken, they recently said this in an interview. And the supposed time travel that Sephiroth did is increasingly being reinforced by Square enix itself, which will make characters who have already died appear again, as Sephiroth is changing the timeline. So we're certainly going to see all those Crisis core characters back. About Dirge of Cerberus. They said they have no plans for the game. But I believe they will do a remake or something in the future.
When I picked up this game again I was expecting it to get emotional. What I was not expecting was to feel so angry at Sephiroth and so sorry for Genesis. I mean, they're both misguided but with a similar backstory, Genesis was just trying to save his own skin and get back together with his two friends whereas Sephiroth decided he now owns the fucking planet.
I will forever die on the hill that genesis was right hes just a bitch by nature. Shinra screwed all of them over so bad but sephiroth is the one that decided he needed to rule the world meanwhile genesis just wanted his fucking friends back and to not die a miserable rotting death. It's bad enough angeal kills himself and im pretty sure he was 90% of the impulse control between gen and seph. Poor zack is thrown into this madness and expected to take on the mantle of angeal. And despite everything gen isnt a villain by the end of the game the creators even recently said the secret ending in DoC isnt meant to be malicious on gens part proving if he does come back it wont be as an enemy. He got his honor back by the end of crisis core. Gen is one of those characters i love to shit talk but i will fight to defend his character.
Zack is an absolute monster: was capable to defeat Angeal's Monster form been just a rockie, he was able to put a good fight to Sephirot itself, defeated Genesis in both phases, and most importantly, he endured for hours against a entire Army! Man, Zack should be a living God of War by Final Fantasy's standards.
Welp, that explains why Genesis called Weiss his brother in Dirge of Cerberus. HOO-BOY, I have a feeling that Genesis is coming back in the Remake trilogy (mind you, despite the name being FF7 Remake, this is actually a sequel and not a remake)
It supposed to be an cameo in the original and a younger self. They didn't fix anything but instead did it because they added him in intergrade. So it's not a fix. A change instead
Man this Genesis Avatar version is way more easier on the ps4/ps5 then the psp version it took even longer and i remember i was leveled up alot more on the psp i beat this boss at level 35 on ps4.
For anybody not understanding why the ending is different.. This is the new timeline where sephiroth is defeated into Advent Children. So crisis core - Ff7 - Advent Children - Restarted timeline - Crisis core remake - Ff7 remake - FF7 rebirth.
@@WeaponXSigma You are correct, however I only listed the main games/movie of which really need to be followed. I should have placed dirge of Cerberus in there however as it does fill a decent gap of knowledge. Just not many people, only hardcore fans have actually played through dirge while the lessers seem to have played/viewed the others
It's amazing how cloud is knocked out and surrounded by them angles sprit, the derictor of Soilder,zack and genesis clouds dream his goal was too be soilder 1st class and he ended obtaining their sprit within him when your surrounded by it you become it 1st Class solder
Zack is a downgrade, Genesis was also better in OG, but its not a huge problem. Still better than that lackluster OG (referring to the awful combat thanks to these DBM interruptions)
Can someone help me understand the ending? What hapenned to genesis after he was defeated, and why zack left genesis in there, and why did that guy from dirge of cerberus took him away?
Genesis was taken away by Weiss and Nero because Genesis despite being a failed project, still had S cells, and due to having recovered from the degradation, was now viable for harvesting. He was for reasons unknown moved to a secret underground lair and kept in stasis Zack only wanted to save Genesis, and left him there thinking he'd get back up and leave
You don't have to play it, voice sounds fine, Rick Gomez wasn't that good either ya know, replaying the PSP version....they weren't that good haha, but sephiroth still had impact
@@godofsin4604 I’m buying it regardless and the previous voice actor for Zack fair did a phenomenal job compared to the new guy, and that’s not me hating on the new guy he probably did see the scenes he was voice acting and just read from a script cause that’s how he sounds like
@@s.2685 when I was 14 playing this game for the first time he was phenomenal, was he amazing no , even the writing for this isn’t legendary but it was a fun experience nonetheless
Can definitely appreciate previous voice actor more than this new one. Sound monotone now and the old voice actor had more emotion and energy in his voice, at least to me.
Late response, but if you mean the woman Genesis sees in the Lifestream, then that's Minerva. She's the "goddess" LOVELESS speaks about, and in our world she's pretty much a manifestation of the Lifestream made flesh.
Man, this is so cringe. Why did they screw this up by changing voice actors? Holy balls, they suck. Except Angeal's VA, who at least tried to sound like his predecessor.
they changed the battle mechanics now the game too easy because they didnt change enemy battle mechanics lmao. dude just sat there and did nothing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@shinra358 I see well can't remember everything since I haven't played the PSP version since forever. Either will still buy day one and flip it again.
@@HyperLXD only way u can be over leveled is beating all the missions. u really think the user did all those missions that fast? ur level does not determine the new battle system. the new system breaks the game. dodge and block are free now and u can store dmws. storing dmws is what really breaks the game
Genesis is such a weak character. In writing, and his final human form boss fight. It's funny how SE even excluded him (and Angeal) from FFVII Rebirth.
I mean , FF7 Rebirth and Remake takes place after Crisis Core so Angeal would be dead and Genesis should be with Weiss. Genesis still has a chance to shine if they remake Dirge of Cerberus and maybe give it a dlc wrap his story
How is he weak in terms of writing? Dude literally pulled the strings of the entire plotline of Crisis Core and throughout the entire game he was the only one who knew what the hell he was doing.
@@Bornagainvillain want to hear more spoil?? its 100% remaster..no add content..no more story and zack still will die...but i dont care...im still gonna play
Coming from someone who’s played the original. I’m honestly not feeling the remake. With the way gaming is now I can literally cast my phone to the tv. Download the game etc. these devs have no new ideas so they regurgitate old things from our childhood for profit. Naw I’m good.
I think this was more of a remaster to not only test future battle mechanics but also get people reacquainted with Zach since he was brought back for remake.
Zack is so strong he can fight a big last boss alone. In the traditional Final Fantasy RPG’s, big last bosses are fought by the party.
dirge of Cerberus also 1 to 1 fight..
Zack is Final Fantasy!
Well he is a first class SOLDIER. The other 1st class before him were big enemy bosses so, he's probably on that level too.
As for Cloud, he isn't really 1st class. But he does get stronger with every tragedy he goes through just as what Sephiroth mentioned in FF7R.
Noctis fought Ardyn alone too!
Got bodied by infantrymen. He's so strong.
I never really hate genesis. He just really hate shinra and he wants to save himself from degration. Shinra is guilty for his problem and Hollander is the one behind this misery. He even asked Zack to join him against shinra in Banora. If Genesis wasn’t so annoying with those Lovesless crap and actually explain to people, things would have turned a lot easier = =
Genesis = autistic poet
"The planet has become my guardian"
that phrase gives me goosebumps
Was that Weiss 18:08 ? That is a change from the original. I guess that is how they’re connected in the Remake timeline.
It was actually stated that Weiss and Nero retrieve Genesis in the original, hence why he appears at the end of Dirdge of Cerberus, but yeah they made it more obvious to identify them, as oppose to the original where they had a standard SOLDIER first class model.
It's interesting that Genesis Did NOT died in Crisis Core, but for some reason idk he doesn't appear in FF7 and only appear in a secret cutscene of Dirge of Cerberus
Yes
It is very likely that he will appear in FF7 Rebirth. Weiss and Nero were already introduced in the 7 Remake dlc. Not to mention that this Crisis Core Reunion came out just now, because since the 7 remake, there are traces of time travel, and the Rebirth trailer already starts showing the past, so it is very likely that Genesis will appear again.
@@Oliveryagami Correct and very well put but Weiss and Nero who come to get Genesis in the DLC show them but I hope there is also a remake of FF7 DG
@@staullerfair5458 So, Square enix idea with this Remake of 7 is precisely to fit in all these characters that were left out and only appeared through standalone games, like Weiss and Nero, and be fitted in the main game. If I'm not mistaken, they recently said this in an interview. And the supposed time travel that Sephiroth did is increasingly being reinforced by Square enix itself, which will make characters who have already died appear again, as Sephiroth is changing the timeline. So we're certainly going to see all those Crisis core characters back.
About Dirge of Cerberus. They said they have no plans for the game. But I believe they will do a remake or something in the future.
Isn't... That Weiss and Nero in the cutscene, or is it someone else in the Underground?
When I picked up this game again I was expecting it to get emotional. What I was not expecting was to feel so angry at Sephiroth and so sorry for Genesis. I mean, they're both misguided but with a similar backstory, Genesis was just trying to save his own skin and get back together with his two friends whereas Sephiroth decided he now owns the fucking planet.
Genesis was an ashole also. No one owes him anything. Yes Sephiroth is absolutely evil but Genesis isn't innocent
I will forever die on the hill that genesis was right hes just a bitch by nature. Shinra screwed all of them over so bad but sephiroth is the one that decided he needed to rule the world meanwhile genesis just wanted his fucking friends back and to not die a miserable rotting death. It's bad enough angeal kills himself and im pretty sure he was 90% of the impulse control between gen and seph. Poor zack is thrown into this madness and expected to take on the mantle of angeal. And despite everything gen isnt a villain by the end of the game the creators even recently said the secret ending in DoC isnt meant to be malicious on gens part proving if he does come back it wont be as an enemy. He got his honor back by the end of crisis core. Gen is one of those characters i love to shit talk but i will fight to defend his character.
Zack is an absolute monster: was capable to defeat Angeal's Monster form been just a rockie, he was able to put a good fight to Sephirot itself, defeated Genesis in both phases, and most importantly, he endured for hours against a entire Army!
Man, Zack should be a living God of War by Final Fantasy's standards.
Welp, that explains why Genesis called Weiss his brother in Dirge of Cerberus. HOO-BOY, I have a feeling that Genesis is coming back in the Remake trilogy (mind you, despite the name being FF7 Remake, this is actually a sequel and not a remake)
Thus why this game was remade in the first place Genesis is coming back indeed.
Fucking Man's Friendship bro, brought tears to men as well
They fixed Weiss model at the end!
It supposed to be an cameo in the original and a younger self. They didn't fix anything but instead did it because they added him in intergrade. So it's not a fix. A change instead
I need them to release the OST so I can make a comparison between the original and new tracks. I'm loving them so far but I need them ASAP 😤😭
Lemme know brother! I’m loving these new arrangements for the game!
Kinda wished they updated the cinematic scenes, but it's still good.
Now I see how recicled the sword of Genesis in FFXV for the Sword of the Father
Man this Genesis Avatar version is way more easier on the ps4/ps5 then the psp version it took even longer and i remember i was leveled up alot more on the psp i beat this boss at level 35 on ps4.
For anybody not understanding why the ending is different.. This is the new timeline where sephiroth is defeated into Advent Children. So crisis core - Ff7 - Advent Children - Restarted timeline - Crisis core remake - Ff7 remake - FF7 rebirth.
You forgot Dirge of Cerberus which is after Advent Children and before the restarted timeline
@@WeaponXSigma You are correct, however I only listed the main games/movie of which really need to be followed. I should have placed dirge of Cerberus in there however as it does fill a decent gap of knowledge. Just not many people, only hardcore fans have actually played through dirge while the lessers seem to have played/viewed the others
Here? Is it?
@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б Yes and the new trailer for the next game fully confirms it.
why did the timeline got restarted?
10:04 wait, so is those Shinra Troopers are the same one who meet Cloud in Shinra's Base??
Probably not, they're just probably random infantry men who worked with him
What did they do to "Those Who Accept the Protection of the Stars"? The original was PERFECT
It's not the only thing...
Apparently they didn't know you don't fix what's not broken
GUHH "the SOLDIER way" sounds so freaking GOOD!!!!
Unpopular opinion:
Genesis was one of the best characters in Crisis Core.
Also defeated Minerva after used about 30 Phoenix downs
Why wasn't Rick gomez back for Zack ??? The new guy just doesn't cut it no offense
Technically Rick can be back as Zack but they fired the original casts instead
It's amazing how cloud is knocked out and surrounded by them angles sprit, the derictor of Soilder,zack and genesis clouds dream his goal was too be soilder 1st class and he ended obtaining their sprit within him when your surrounded by it you become it 1st Class solder
Clound is one of the best in history too!
Zacks new voice actor is a very jarring adjustment
These voices sound like a bootleg version of the original ones. Still going to play and enjoy this game tho
The price of a better gameplay is steep
Lol just enjoy the game
Y’all acting like y’all cream to peoples voices 💀
@@KuroReisho Dude literally says he's going to play and enjoy the game
You: LoL jUsT pLaY aNd EnJoY tHe GaMe
Zack is a downgrade, Genesis was also better in OG, but its not a huge problem.
Still better than that lackluster OG (referring to the awful combat thanks to these DBM interruptions)
@@Vayne_Solidor It is a problem for those of us who loved old Genesis (I know we are rare, but still I loved his old VA, new one sounds like a homo)
11:38
My preciousssss
genesis: *goddess this goddess that*
zack: oh ya mean some armored winged freak (minerva) i just killed?
bro got rejected by his waifu
also, i hated this boss in the original so much that i cheated my way through it lmao
Did Genesis was voiced by Yuri Lowenthal?
Shaun Conde
Angel May Cry 🤫
Can someone help me understand the ending? What hapenned to genesis after he was defeated, and why zack left genesis in there, and why did that guy from dirge of cerberus took him away?
Genesis was taken away by Weiss and Nero because Genesis despite being a failed project, still had S cells, and due to having recovered from the degradation, was now viable for harvesting. He was for reasons unknown moved to a secret underground lair and kept in stasis
Zack only wanted to save Genesis, and left him there thinking he'd get back up and leave
Who picked up Genesis at the end?
If I remember right it was some dudes from the dirge of cerberus spin off
Weiss with Nero next to him.
Gackt =))
I’m not really a fan of the new voices. Seems so bland compared to the originals. But I’ll still give it a chance.
Hold on.
Did the Angeal clones stay alive until Genesis's dream of sharing a Banora, came true?
That was lazard the genesis copy that watched over cloud when Zack went to confront genesis
2:54 when friend taking all my foods
Hmm, not only character voice change, the music is also rearranged huh?
Genesis tranformation to WEAPON The Guardian of the Earth
All Weapons have a giant red materia on them and is what you target to destroy in FF7...you destroy a giant red materia to defeat Genesis
Rick Gomez all the way
original voice and music as DLC pls
Bro just want their friends back.
im laughing so hard this sounds like a fandub
this sucks so bad
5:11 funnyl 😂 he teleport that big cunk of thing and do air strike 😂 but how you're logically beyonds monster 😅
HAAA! DAAAA! HAAA! DAAAAA! HAAAA! DAAAAH!
Zack sounds.... like a chinese bootleg version of Zack. Somethings off.
They changed the dialogue for Zack when air strike activates, Zack wold say ( I’m trying I’m trying) I hate the new voice for Zack
You don't have to play it, voice sounds fine, Rick Gomez wasn't that good either ya know, replaying the PSP version....they weren't that good haha, but sephiroth still had impact
@@godofsin4604 I’m buying it regardless and the previous voice actor for Zack fair did a phenomenal job compared to the new guy, and that’s not me hating on the new guy he probably did see the scenes he was voice acting and just read from a script cause that’s how he sounds like
"Rick Gomez wasn't that good either" lmao what a joke
@@s.2685 when I was 14 playing this game for the first time he was phenomenal, was he amazing no , even the writing for this isn’t legendary but it was a fun experience nonetheless
Can definitely appreciate previous voice actor more than this new one. Sound monotone now and the old voice actor had more emotion and energy in his voice, at least to me.
I actually really like genesis tbh. But in reunion they ruined his voice imo and they also ruined his theme "black wings unfurled".
They made his voice better IMO. He sounded bored as hell in the old version, whereas here his new VA poured his soul into the role.
I cheesed the *fuck* outta this final boss with Dark Thundaga
this is one freaking depressing story.. All heroes dies in this story
Why is this boss so hard
same dude, buddy is doing massive damage. I have been whaling on him for 15 minutes and he's barley half way down
Ngl, the balthmont king was a harder boss than this one lmao
Nah, that Genesis copy Graber is more annoying 🙄
is this on hard or normal mode
I miss Rick Gomez
And people say that this version has the superior voice cast?!
Caleb is cool and all but he can't deliver these lines properly.
Neither can Tyler tbh
Who is the lady zack sees in the mako...?
Late response, but if you mean the woman Genesis sees in the Lifestream, then that's Minerva.
She's the "goddess" LOVELESS speaks about, and in our world she's pretty much a manifestation of the Lifestream made flesh.
6:35 lol Genesis defeated himself 😂😂😂😂😂
Man, this is so cringe. Why did they screw this up by changing voice actors? Holy balls, they suck. Except Angeal's VA, who at least tried to sound like his predecessor.
Only dis jRPG your MC always anyday solo leveling 🗿
Game looks beautiful but these new voice actors are throwing me off
I cant stand the new voice for zack 💀 the others are either better or good but zacks is so unbearable rick gomez really owned this role
they changed the battle mechanics now the game too easy because they didnt change enemy battle mechanics lmao. dude just sat there and did nothing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Could be playing on easy maybe idk
@@KefkaTheDeathJester nope, enemies moved just like that on psp. No change
@@shinra358 I see well can't remember everything since I haven't played the PSP version since forever. Either will still buy day one and flip it again.
@@shinra358 Nah, the player is also over-leveled
@@HyperLXD only way u can be over leveled is beating all the missions. u really think the user did all those missions that fast? ur level does not determine the new battle system. the new system breaks the game. dodge and block are free now and u can store dmws. storing dmws is what really breaks the game
I’m not a fan of this VA of Zack. The original one from Crisis Core is much better. Just doesn’t sound the same to me.
Angeal life are latulip .
what is this
Man Caleb totally ruined Zack for me.
Original VAs were a lot better 😭
The voice acting in these new FF7 games is a real let down.
Yeah this is so bad… No emotion at all
No battle mode amigo no believe in el grande Caius Cassius believe in thy sword my friend it anoint thy ff7 blessings
Guzendheit
I literally beat Genesis in 1 hit
Fully commend you on pushing through this but that setup was ass bro….
Some things are worth it and playing against this bullshit boss isnt one of those things who came up with this bullshit
Damn censorship!
Zacks va sounds like a really bad fan dub
So is Sephiroth's
4 minutes in and the boss just sits there. Really lack luster for me
The voice acting is terrible. Can’t compare to the original
Zacks VA is awful
Genesis? Peter Gabriels's Genesis or Phil Collins?
Why do they always change voice actors 😭🤮
The game is too easy
Zack voice is so corny
This game is corny
Jetch
I don't like this Zack voice
Genesis is such a weak character. In writing, and his final human form boss fight.
It's funny how SE even excluded him (and Angeal) from FFVII Rebirth.
I mean , FF7 Rebirth and Remake takes place after Crisis Core so Angeal would be dead and Genesis should be with Weiss. Genesis still has a chance to shine if they remake Dirge of Cerberus and maybe give it a dlc wrap his story
@@trifurobert1349 oor he's comin at part 4, amon advent children climax well who knows ?
How is he weak in terms of writing? Dude literally pulled the strings of the entire plotline of Crisis Core and throughout the entire game he was the only one who knew what the hell he was doing.
Bad voice acting
why!!!!!......2 much spoilerrrrrrr
Old game
@@Bornagainvillain want to hear more spoil?? its 100% remaster..no add content..no more story and zack still will die...but i dont care...im still gonna play
@@leord8720 I knew all of this already. It has nothing at all to do with Remake.
And you have no will-power. Cry elsewhere.
Cope
This game is just so bad, what a waste of money
I enjoyed it
Coming from someone who’s played the original. I’m honestly not feeling the remake. With the way gaming is now I can literally cast my phone to the tv. Download the game etc. these devs have no new ideas so they regurgitate old things from our childhood for profit. Naw I’m good.
I think this was more of a remaster to not only test future battle mechanics but also get people reacquainted with Zach since he was brought back for remake.
@@Mcmuffinwaffle I feel you bro but you and I both know they gone milk this shit for next 10yrs
@@writ3r5683 dude. They've already milked it for over 20 years with just FF7. Lol