Please let us know if you pilots have more info from the devs. We lost 3 carriers on the same strategy/bug (although we also used it to our own benefit) after we killed most of their fleet, the dictor kept bubbling us and we couldn’t do anything to extract the carriers
maybe once or twice but doubtful a cap could do it over and over , eventually you will spawn too far away to make it back to the gate before being tackled, ship is just not agile enough
@@tahiniii are you sure about this? I feel like I often spawn over over 10km from nihilist gates and have to approach to under 5km to be able to jump (similar to normal gates). Or maybe I haven't paid close enough attention and I'm incorrect.
i've received a copy paste of this message from netease a year and half back for some rediculous bug during a kill. This is generic response from them.
on the insurance, it costs MORE to insure a cap, then it does to make a NEW ONE! the hull cost is way over what you pay on the market. dreadfull bullshit from support.
First off I agree that it’s an issue that needs corrected. That being said, I think there is a bit of a language gap here. It’s not a “bug”, it’s an exploit of the current game mechanics. I’ve noticed with this game they take stuff very literal. When u say bug, they expect missing or malfunctioning code, when they don’t find it they say piss off. Secondarily, there is a staggering lack of checks before things get pushed out to the live server. It feels like most updates have been followed with corrections or (true) bugs (like local or chat or missing models). However they are completely unwilling to ever admit to a mistake. So, sorry about the ships but I have a feeling this is a new norm for gameplay
So you've got video? Then it's just a question of posting a link to that video (possible somewhere in the official discord? Embarrassing, therefore effective) or at least a still shot stating that 'ship is invulnerable' to support. In other words, in a way that's impossible to ignore/deny.
The invulnerability is 30 seconds every time you activate the first gate in unknown hidden rift , you can't shoot anyone during this time but activate all no combat mods
@@trevor6876 Well yeah, people got punished for the gate guns, however for this they are not punishing anyone or refunding any ships. This is more a mishap on their part, than a deliberate attempt to exploit the game - I suppose thats the key difference. You give anty dictor pilot a gate, he will jump through to stay alive.
The only issue here is that customer service does not understand game mechanics. This is nothing new and a game mechanic that has existed from the start of NDS. Sorry for your lack of understanding of game mechanics, now you know.
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I didnt knew that lictors could drop bubbles when they are invulnerable after jumping out of an NDS.
Great video, I agree pretty disturbing knowing how long those INVULNERABLE dictors were able to hold those high value assets.
Still here! Thanks for the video, hope to see more soon, cheers
Please let us know if you pilots have more info from the devs. We lost 3 carriers on the same strategy/bug (although we also used it to our own benefit) after we killed most of their fleet, the dictor kept bubbling us and we couldn’t do anything to extract the carriers
Devs will change the mechanic, they confirmed it to me - but will not reimburse any losses from the past
Hindsight is 20:20 but the carriers could of just abused gate mechanics I'm the same way to never take damage.
maybe once or twice but doubtful a cap could do it over and over , eventually you will spawn too far away to make it back to the gate before being tackled, ship is just not agile enough
@@balancelol no, you always spawn in range of the gate to jump back, 100% of the time
@@tahiniii are you sure about this? I feel like I often spawn over over 10km from nihilist gates and have to approach to under 5km to be able to jump (similar to normal gates). Or maybe I haven't paid close enough attention and I'm incorrect.
@@redstorm64 thats in the second gate, but the first gate puts you 0km away
i've received a copy paste of this message from netease a year and half back for some rediculous bug during a kill. This is generic response from them.
on the insurance, it costs MORE to insure a cap, then it does to make a NEW ONE! the hull cost is way over what you pay on the market.
dreadfull bullshit from support.
CCC doesn't review killmail very well IMO.
First off I agree that it’s an issue that needs corrected. That being said, I think there is a bit of a language gap here. It’s not a “bug”, it’s an exploit of the current game mechanics. I’ve noticed with this game they take stuff very literal. When u say bug, they expect missing or malfunctioning code, when they don’t find it they say piss off.
Secondarily, there is a staggering lack of checks before things get pushed out to the live server. It feels like most updates have been followed with corrections or (true) bugs (like local or chat or missing models). However they are completely unwilling to ever admit to a mistake. So, sorry about the ships but I have a feeling this is a new norm for gameplay
Yea its exploid remember when guys destroyed lowsec tama turrets with bugs and they also got banned
BOT5 glad to abuse the bug.
So you've got video? Then it's just a question of posting a link to that video (possible somewhere in the official discord? Embarrassing, therefore effective) or at least a still shot stating that 'ship is invulnerable' to support. In other words, in a way that's impossible to ignore/deny.
We need something like Smart Bomb to deal with the small ship-_-
The invulnerability is 30 seconds every time you activate the first gate in unknown hidden rift , you can't shoot anyone during this time but activate all no combat mods
The devs have told me this will be changed. So netease is aware 👍🏽
Would hope so, its an exploit. You should feel noble abusing it. Pretty sure folks got banned for exploiting gate guns.
@@trevor6876 yes but this isn’t an exploit, just a dumb mechanic they added. 👍🏽
@@tahiniii lol sounds just like the gate gun abusers. Im sure its functioning as intended being invulnerable while making pvp actions.
@@trevor6876 Well yeah, people got punished for the gate guns, however for this they are not punishing anyone or refunding any ships. This is more a mishap on their part, than a deliberate attempt to exploit the game - I suppose thats the key difference. You give anty dictor pilot a gate, he will jump through to stay alive.
@@tahiniii except he shouldn't be able to if hes weapons hot. let alone be invulnerable
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its exploiting a bug and that is a banable offence. those pilots should be banned. just need the dev to see it that way and say its a bug.
It's not a bug, it's a feature
You look really tired on the video, i hope everything is okay in your life.
Its his normal face.
The only issue here is that customer service does not understand game mechanics. This is nothing new and a game mechanic that has existed from the start of NDS. Sorry for your lack of understanding of game mechanics, now you know.
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2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
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Behold, he cometh with clouds; *and every eye shall see him,* and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
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Revelation 1:8 (Jesus speaking)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, *the Almighty.*
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Romans 10:9
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Acts 4:12
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