The good old Forza Horizon method. Make a car as understeering as possible with upgrades to trick the Power Index, make it turn with ridiculous tuning settings. Meta Tuning in a nutshell 🤓
@@Doughtinator awesome, as always, many blessings and much props, your videos and knowledge make being a beginning at sim driving so much easier to digest. Thanks brother.
I use the Mazda, stop one time with hard tires (just for refuel no tire change) and only reduce power and ad weight. No setup needed. Always on 1 fuel mixture. I make 25 minutes 10 sec. 2.1 millions in 1h15. Always first lapping, the second place...
I use the lm55 vgt for Sardegna and run it fuel map 2 for the first 7 laps then go to fuel map 1 and pit at the end of lap 8 only for fuel and do it in under 25 minutes as does the Tomahawk vgt gr1
@@Doughtinator I have been testing your setup with the mazda, and i'm 1 min faster (low 24 min), with a 1:31:9 fastest lap. But: the car is evil, wants to kill me. I'm doing some more races to see if 1 min is worth the added difficulty. Also, with my setup I don't have to change the fuel nor the tyres. But your setup is faster no doubt
No stop, fuel mix 6 in RH tyres for Gr. 1 cars, 1 stop with Gr. 2 cars, RM tyres, 2 stops with Gr. 3 cars. And frequently switch cars and groups to keep it interesting. Anyone can manage to win with this simple rules 🤷🏻 But fav Gr. 1, Mazda, fav Gr. 2 BMW McLaren F1.
The reason why I subscribed to this TH-cam channel is because of the way he uses the English language in his videos. Maybe hideously understeery is a good term for cars that go quick in a straight line but not very good around a single bend.
Been using the Mazda LM55 and playing around with strategies, fuel mix 6, short shifting and some lift and coast and it will do it on a single tank with hard tyres. I’m quite enjoying trying to get it to run out exactly as I cross the finish line 😂
Really surprised you do not change the front toe angle, I always change it because it helps with front line speed and cornering. A prime example is Daytona road course when it puts you in the wall until you change it and then you've got a chance.
Gonna have to give that pit strategy with the Nissan a try. I use a different method by starting a couple laps lean, might be able to get a better time with your method. The CLK GTR is a fun one as well.
It understeers because you dropped the front end ride height too much and the tyres are hitting the inside of front fenders and is interfering with steering
I get all this grind bit however coming out of the other end of that, I’ve started to come down the ranks of Gr3 cars now so as to give me a challenge in order to win 😇 The Subaru 300 pi$$es the win so I like using the VW beetle, Corvette and the like so that I have to race hard laps 1 to 10 and be in good shape when the Viper and the Toyota take their last pit stops… actual excitement again!!
The DTM is very cool but it nowhere near as fast as the Group C cars or Porsche 919 Hybrid. Plus my hand hurts from holding down the DRS button on my wheel for 25 minutes! Going to install a toggle switch in place of one of my buttons.
Sorry to take the subject away from the tune that I would give a 8.5-9 out of 10, but still fun. #8.5 comes from it not great in all 800pp races. I do really want the Nissan Group C. The time trial it was my fastest time a bit back. Now the subject matter that will take away from video. Do you think we can have them add a few more races none road car races to run the P1 from the 🧡 everywhere on the F1 YT channel. Your Albon guy did look strong and I am not much for F1 but that Q1-3 was something that was incredible to watch. I would like to see more races with less of Country/ies based races. Also the motor swap complaint you had is one of those moments it just seemed lazy. 2 more thing will you be showing your time for the new addition from AM. The P1 I'll add sport soft to have on same tire. I'm interested in see which people like more then the other. Tuning the AM crushes it but "showroom v mostly showroom tune. I hope to see some mods come to the P1 because Cannon Ball is get 1600 crank with rods, turbo swap however the chassis's grip is limited in the 1300 range but no more then 1312 hp. Those rods coming out of any of the McLarens seem to be build for light weight without using a titanium rod set up. I was amazing to see the pistons and rods come out of many of them.
Loved this, thanks Doughinator. The crazy variation (Sauber C9): Doughie's settings, except add Hard tires and a mid range turbo for 987HP. Absolutely mad and shaved a whole minute (!) of my previous race time
I have tested with hard tires and more power. They are crazy fast but harder (more fun!) to drive 👍🏻👍🏻 Well done on going faster. That’s what it’s all about 👍🏻👍🏻
@@Doughtinator finally got a time to try this build today really surprise the car handle it's a bit understeer like u say at tight fast left & right hand corner. I use 787B overall time 23:57 & fastest lap 1:30:842 . Overall it's a great method or glitches to grind for this event definitely . will try all car like in ur video .
Hey dude. I’ve been using the Mazda for quite some time now, and I’m thinking of switching because some of the other cars are in Legend Cars now. Which of these cars are the best, besides the Porsche and the Nissan?
Btw, I’m not trying to say that the 787B is bad, it’s an awesome car (thanks to your tune), but I’m just trying to see if there is another car that is faster than it.
I think the R92CP is my best still. The Pikes Peak Escudo is supposed to be very good but I find it really awkward to drive. I’m still working to improve the tune but it’s defo worth buying it 👍🏻
Are the group c cars broken? If you tune them to 700 pp there reasonably sluggish, I guess at 800 pp they are powerfull. I have started using the appropriate car for these races. Yes it take a bit longer to complete the race in a gr.3 car, but your in the race for 15 laps. After the second lap in the group c cars your in front for the next 13 laps, I was starting to fall asleep by lap 10 cause it gets boring. Grinding hard can burn me out fast on a game. Neo classic, 800pp tune is required to enter those races in a group c car, are they really glitched?
I think they are more suited to 800pp. I do agree about using appropriate cars for the races. I used to do that but it seemed a lot of people were after the absolute fastest and started to go down that route. One of my favourite builds was a Gr3 Ferrari from a long time ago. The glitch element mainly comes from the PP calculation dropping really low compared to its actual on track performance when using the max/min downforce.
@Doughtinator the group c cars are versitile you can bump them up high enough to compete in the gr1 races or as low as 700pp for 24 heurs and the gr4 races. Seems the neo classic races are made for those cars, but they need to be tuned to 800pp. From memory they are challenging races aswell, they are not popular like the big money races. I really hope it isn't a glitch cause it would be game changing if they fix it.
Interesting video as usual😊. I have an unrelated question: why I can't feel kerbs in GT7 while in Gt sport you could feel them clearly? I have a Logitech g923 +ps5. Is it a setup issue or simply a different sw simulation?
Welcome to Gran Turismo 7. Playing through the menu books and doing circuit experience will get you good chunks of money. This video will also help th-cam.com/video/wgAo95T_R3I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Mgh1RUnawXH2l4Dx
Again, pretty sure I use the LM55 Mazda for these. Car does silly good on fuel, and it's out of corner grip is hovering around insane. **Also, you could have a super stable car by dropping downforce to minimum both front/rear, and using "Restrictor" instead of "ECU" to drop the power, but increase the bandwidth of the powerband until it falls into 800PP on RH. Very easy, very stable.
What are your lap times and can you post a ghost so I can chase it with a few of my cars. I didn’t think the LM55 could beat the Porsche 919 Hybrid or Group C cars but I could be wrong.
I find the NSX GT 500 Racecar is great for racing , grinding this race , a great drive for Spa 24 hrs , any pp800 race. I break 1.40 laps at this track with no stupid tuning, good fuel economy
I tried the mazda, nissan, sauber mercedes, Jaguar xjr9 and the 919 (also tried the formula car but I'm terrible). The best group 3 car to me is the Porsche 911 2016. Only goes to the pit 2 times in fuel 6 and wins easily. I make around 27 minutes with the Porsche 911. Until now I didn't find a car that can make the full race without refueling, all cars have to go at least once.
@@Doughtinator same car the nissan, i used soft tyres though and more power, if you keep the front downforce at 500. I have a full race replay of a 22:38 on my channel.
I‘ve got around 330 cars and almost all track experiences in gold. You van do these only once. You need, for example, the Merc CLK and the BMW GTR Gr. 2 alone around 20 Mio. Do the math.
I use the ford racing test car or the pagani with normal set up and soft racing tires and finish in 24 mins. Alot less work than changing all that. The ford test car goes 190 down the straight away. I do use med tires with the pagani.
The good old Forza Horizon method. Make a car as understeering as possible with upgrades to trick the Power Index, make it turn with ridiculous tuning settings. Meta Tuning in a nutshell 🤓
Yeah pretty much. A little bit inside me dies when tuning to a PP. but hey. It’s get the money 🤷🏻♂️🤣
@Doughtinator I just bought the Mazda 787b, with this tune, after update 1.45, is the handling decent? Drivable?
@worthy7834 yes absolutely. I drove it the other day in 1.44. 1.45 is just to correct a bug with something else. 👍🏻
@@Doughtinator awesome, as always, many blessings and much props, your videos and knowledge make being a beginning at sim driving so much easier to digest. Thanks brother.
I use the Mazda, stop one time with hard tires (just for refuel no tire change) and only reduce power and ad weight. No setup needed. Always on 1 fuel mixture. I make 25 minutes 10 sec. 2.1 millions in 1h15. Always first lapping, the second place...
Very good. If you test this tune let me know if it’s faster 👍🏻
@@Doughtinator I will Dough thanks!!!
I use the lm55 vgt for Sardegna and run it fuel map 2 for the first 7 laps then go to fuel map 1 and pit at the end of lap 8 only for fuel and do it in under 25 minutes as does the Tomahawk vgt gr1
@@Doughtinator I have been testing your setup with the mazda, and i'm 1 min faster (low 24 min), with a 1:31:9 fastest lap.
But: the car is evil, wants to kill me. I'm doing some more races to see if 1 min is worth the added difficulty. Also, with my setup I don't have to change the fuel nor the tyres.
But your setup is faster no doubt
@@AlertJester66 that's very much like what I do, except always map 1, pit at 8 for refuel only
This really works, lapped most of the cars using this method
Awesome. They are fast!!
No stop, fuel mix 6 in RH tyres for Gr. 1 cars, 1 stop with Gr. 2 cars, RM tyres, 2 stops with Gr. 3 cars. And frequently switch cars and groups to keep it interesting.
Anyone can manage to win with this simple rules 🤷🏻
But fav Gr. 1, Mazda, fav Gr. 2 BMW McLaren F1.
I usually stop 1 more time for each class. But similar rule 👍🏻
The reason why I subscribed to this TH-cam channel is because of the way he uses the English language in his videos. Maybe hideously understeery is a good term for cars that go quick in a straight line but not very good around a single bend.
Haha. Thanks man 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much, 1:33 with Mazda in first attempt. Eight laps with 3 fuel map and last with 1. Like a missile.
Awesome. Glad you like it man 👍🏻👍🏻
A good car to use for Sardegna and you dont have to wait for it to show in legendary is the Tomahawk vgt gr1 it's a Monster
Yeah I’ve heard it’s a good one. I need to check it out 👍🏻
Le Ferrari, FXX, tuned C8, alfa 4c w Ferrari swap, and half a dozen more are easily capable of lapping the field!
Been using the Mazda LM55 and playing around with strategies, fuel mix 6, short shifting and some lift and coast and it will do it on a single tank with hard tyres. I’m quite enjoying trying to get it to run out exactly as I cross the finish line 😂
Perfect. I hear good things about the LM55 👍🏻
@@DoughtinatorShe's a beautiful beast. I, too, find myself coasting to the finish line now and then.
I use the lm55 vgt for Sardegna and run it fuel map 2 for the first 7 laps then go to fuel map 1 and pit at the end of lap 8 only for fuel
I’ll try it! These kind of videos keep people playing!
Thanks man 👍🏻
Really surprised you do not change the front toe angle, I always change it because it helps with front line speed and cornering. A prime example is Daytona road course when it puts you in the wall until you change it and then you've got a chance.
I’ve never really played with toe angles much. Something I will look into in the future 👍🏻
I bought the suzuki Escudo and its a monster on this track it owns it
Escudo is indeed a beast!
Gonna have to give that pit strategy with the Nissan a try. I use a different method by starting a couple laps lean, might be able to get a better time with your method.
The CLK GTR is a fun one as well.
Yeah I think this strategy works really well. 👍🏻
It understeers because you dropped the front end ride height too much and the tyres are hitting the inside of front fenders and is interfering with steering
I think this is only really a problem in the road cars. The wheels steer ok. Especially at low speed. It’s just high speed understeer.
@@Doughtinator oh ok thought the fender rub was across all cars....
I get all this grind bit however coming out of the other end of that, I’ve started to come down the ranks of Gr3 cars now so as to give me a challenge in order to win 😇 The Subaru 300 pi$$es the win so I like using the VW beetle, Corvette and the like so that I have to race hard laps 1 to 10 and be in good shape when the Viper and the Toyota take their last pit stops… actual excitement again!!
Yeah man. I’m with you on that one. Choosing a similar car and enjoying the race is defo more fun 👍🏻
A racing game should never be grindy.
I agree. And they could keep it fresh each week but they don’t seem to 🤷🏻♂️
Great video💪 love the background track 💙💜
Thanks man. It’s good isn’t it 👍🏻👍🏻
@@Doughtinator most definitely 🤙🏼
i use the rs5 dtm car its insane on fuel and tyres and it has drs
The Audi DTM is good. But I think these are faster 👍🏻
The DTM is very cool but it nowhere near as fast as the Group C cars or Porsche 919 Hybrid.
Plus my hand hurts from holding down the DRS button on my wheel for 25 minutes! Going to install a toggle switch in place of one of my buttons.
@@Doughtinator they definitely are
Sorry to take the subject away from the tune that I would give a 8.5-9 out of 10, but still fun. #8.5 comes from it not great in all 800pp races. I do really want the Nissan Group C. The time trial it was my fastest time a bit back.
Now the subject matter that will take away from video. Do you think we can have them add a few more races none road car races to run the P1 from the 🧡 everywhere on the F1 YT channel. Your Albon guy did look strong and I am not much for F1 but that Q1-3 was something that was incredible to watch. I would like to see more races with less of Country/ies based races. Also the motor swap complaint you had is one of those moments it just seemed lazy.
2 more thing will you be showing your time for the new addition from AM. The P1 I'll add sport soft to have on same tire. I'm interested in see which people like more then the other. Tuning the AM crushes it but "showroom v mostly showroom tune. I hope to see some mods come to the P1 because Cannon Ball is get 1600 crank with rods, turbo swap however the chassis's grip is limited in the 1300 range but no more then 1312 hp. Those rods coming out of any of the McLarens seem to be build for light weight without using a titanium rod set up. I was amazing to see the pistons and rods come out of many of them.
Loved this, thanks Doughinator.
The crazy variation (Sauber C9):
Doughie's settings, except add Hard tires and a mid range turbo for 987HP. Absolutely mad and shaved a whole minute (!) of my previous race time
I have tested with hard tires and more power. They are crazy fast but harder (more fun!) to drive 👍🏻👍🏻
Well done on going faster. That’s what it’s all about 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much! I couldn't believe in my eyes!!! Amazing! Thank you, thank youuuuu so much👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👌💯
Happy to help man 👍🏻👍🏻
Great method definitely will try it thanks sirrr 👍👍
Let us know how you get on 👍🏻👍🏻
@@Doughtinator will do
@@Doughtinator finally got a time to try this build today really surprise the car handle it's a bit understeer like u say at tight fast left & right hand corner. I use 787B overall time 23:57 & fastest lap 1:30:842 . Overall it's a great method or glitches to grind for this event definitely . will try all car like in ur video .
@saifuddin278 very good. Solid race times there 👍🏻👍🏻
@@Doughtinator thanks for the build 👍
Put the game on easy and so many cars can do the job.
Yeah but the faster you can get it done the quicker you’ll earn the credits 👍🏻
Hey dude. I’ve been using the Mazda for quite some time now, and I’m thinking of switching because some of the other cars are in Legend Cars now. Which of these cars are the best, besides the Porsche and the Nissan?
Btw, I’m not trying to say that the 787B is bad, it’s an awesome car (thanks to your tune), but I’m just trying to see if there is another car that is faster than it.
I think the R92CP is my best still. The Pikes Peak Escudo is supposed to be very good but I find it really awkward to drive. I’m still working to improve the tune but it’s defo worth buying it 👍🏻
An open world expansion for online would be dope
That would be a very good update 👍🏻
Are the group c cars broken? If you tune them to 700 pp there reasonably sluggish, I guess at 800 pp they are powerfull. I have started using the appropriate car for these races. Yes it take a bit longer to complete the race in a gr.3 car, but your in the race for 15 laps. After the second lap in the group c cars your in front for the next 13 laps, I was starting to fall asleep by lap 10 cause it gets boring. Grinding hard can burn me out fast on a game. Neo classic, 800pp tune is required to enter those races in a group c car, are they really glitched?
I think they are more suited to 800pp.
I do agree about using appropriate cars for the races. I used to do that but it seemed a lot of people were after the absolute fastest and started to go down that route. One of my favourite builds was a Gr3 Ferrari from a long time ago.
The glitch element mainly comes from the PP calculation dropping really low compared to its actual on track performance when using the max/min downforce.
@Doughtinator the group c cars are versitile you can bump them up high enough to compete in the gr1 races or as low as 700pp for 24 heurs and the gr4 races. Seems the neo classic races are made for those cars, but they need to be tuned to 800pp. From memory they are challenging races aswell, they are not popular like the big money races. I really hope it isn't a glitch cause it would be game changing if they fix it.
Interesting video as usual😊. I have an unrelated question: why I can't feel kerbs in GT7 while in Gt sport you could feel them clearly? I have a Logitech g923 +ps5. Is it a setup issue or simply a different sw simulation?
I feel similar. The kerbs do t really give much feeling. I put that down to the game rather than hardware though 🤷🏻♂️
Cool, I just got the game yesterday after watching these videos ... What is a fast money method for a new player?
Welcome to Gran Turismo 7. Playing through the menu books and doing circuit experience will get you good chunks of money.
This video will also help
th-cam.com/video/wgAo95T_R3I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Mgh1RUnawXH2l4Dx
@@Doughtinator thank you very much !!
Again, pretty sure I use the LM55 Mazda for these. Car does silly good on fuel, and it's out of corner grip is hovering around insane.
**Also, you could have a super stable car by dropping downforce to minimum both front/rear, and using "Restrictor" instead of "ECU" to drop the power, but increase the bandwidth of the powerband until it falls into 800PP on RH. Very easy, very stable.
I really need to test the LM55 👍🏻
What are your lap times and can you post a ghost so I can chase it with a few of my cars. I didn’t think the LM55 could beat the Porsche 919 Hybrid or Group C cars but I could be wrong.
I find the NSX GT 500 Racecar is great for racing , grinding this race , a great drive for Spa 24 hrs , any pp800 race. I break 1.40 laps at this track with no stupid tuning, good fuel economy
@@MrGivmedew With 800pp the 919 sucks. You finish the race in first no problem but you are faster almost 3 minutes with the mazda.
I tried the mazda, nissan, sauber mercedes, Jaguar xjr9 and the 919 (also tried the formula car but I'm terrible). The best group 3 car to me is the Porsche 911 2016. Only goes to the pit 2 times in fuel 6 and wins easily. I make around 27 minutes with the Porsche 911.
Until now I didn't find a car that can make the full race without refueling, all cars have to go at least once.
great video just a shame you didn't show it in action.
These is a full race video linked at the end of this video 👍🏻
My personal best overall time so far is a 22:35
Wow that’s fast!! 👍🏻👍🏻. Which car?
@@Doughtinator same car the nissan, i used soft tyres though and more power, if you keep the front downforce at 500. I have a full race replay of a 22:38 on my channel.
Why do you need more credits? I got 10.000.000 just from a few circuit experiences, some good time trials in GT sport.. what are you buying?
If you’re looking to collect all the cars there are quite a few 20million credit cars in there 😳
I‘ve got around 330 cars and almost all track experiences in gold. You van do these only once.
You need, for example, the Merc CLK and the BMW GTR Gr. 2 alone around 20 Mio. Do the math.
For what reason do you need all cars? There is not even a Trophy about it.
@@GrafAndras To drive them? It’s a driving simulator.
@@GrafAndrasSome people are car lovers, you wouldn't understand.
Like deployed 👍
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Thanks Julian 👍🏻
I use the ford racing test car or the pagani with normal set up and soft racing tires and finish in 24 mins. Alot less work than changing all that. The ford test car goes 190 down the straight away. I do use med tires with the pagani.
how hard is it to take a couple minutes to put a profile in that will be saved and ready for you anytime you want?
Reusable zip ties 🤔
A little harder to re route cables if you’re changing stuff around tho.
@@Doughtinator reusable is in the name, takes a split second to press the tab and unzip
Doubtinator
Sometimes! 🤣
Can I send you a friend request on PSN?
Yeah absolutely 👍🏻👍🏻
How do I find you?
@automus_pryme9372 my PSN ID is RA_Doughtinator