The TRUTH about Baam's Identity | Tower of God - Théorie

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  • @OK25000
    @OK25000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Ayo i just finished watching your vids and now you drop this. The ToG community is in a desperate need of more creators with an unbiased and in-depth knowledge of the series. Thank you. Hoping for more recent story discussion.

  • @Remorsefulz
    @Remorsefulz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Dude, I've been binge watching your content for a while now and just wanted to say thank you so much for making these videos, and i can't wait to support you till the end.

  • @OK25000
    @OK25000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    If this is true, than ToG starts to feel more like a greek tragedy like Oedipus, more than a shonen fantasy

    • @dreamybullthugshaker
      @dreamybullthugshaker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Funny how you mentioned Oedipus

    • @LeonEdwardsGoat
      @LeonEdwardsGoat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ToG is more like game of thrones then a shonen fantasy anyways so that fits

  • @Poppyrae
    @Poppyrae 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Please continue making theories I love the detail and time you took on this theory.
    I’m not the biggest fan of bam is jahads son but you did a fantastic job explaining and making a compelling argument. I love your videos I’m so happy I found your channel and I truly hope it grows. At the moment you may be my favorite tog theorist

  • @mayh3m3d
    @mayh3m3d 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    I'll be honest, I haven't been the biggest fan of the BaZa theory, but this video shook me. It's the best explanation I've seen of the theory and it makes Garam's line about how Bam knowing the full truth would ruin him and make him hate her. It makes Gustang's line about Bam's father being the worst person he's ever met make more sense. It does feel like mental gymnastics to theorize why Gustang hates V so much when the most obvious explanation makes the most sense. Also, how you tied it in with Hockney's painting blew my mind. I think there's more to add to this, specifically on the Rachel front with the more recent stuff but I'll refrain. Great video as always! I'm looking forward to your future content. On a side note, I wonder what Bam's real name is if it was just Luslec who gave him that name and not Arlen?

    • @nikolabucabuca
      @nikolabucabuca 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what if V. did somthing similar to baam when they first got in oposition to jahad.....what if V. was idioticly good like baam an forgive jahad after first big fight[[like baam didnt kill white an let other clone take body even if he know hoaqin is alive]]......what if this type of idiocy was V. best an worst quality as a person.....cose for good humble peoppple this would be somthing saint like behevior,,,but for someone dark an cuning like po bidau gustang this would be disquasting[[he call weak people bugs even rachel who he think is iregular so it isnt just name for regulars]],,even to mezino urek he say wtf you doing you are a whale in fishtank why are you going an hangout to bugs an expect something from tham[[bugs]] ,they are usles existance.........so we see how gustang hate ''good'' behevior of strong an powerfull people to point when baam said lets give soul an save people of 43floor he said they dont wont to be saved,they arent like me urek or you boy.....

    • @Console-l0gger
      @Console-l0gger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what on Rachel front?

    • @nassr8742
      @nassr8742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Console-l0ggeridk but arlen did call him a monster

  • @Gwizz1337
    @Gwizz1337 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    I believe that Baam is a true anomaly to the tower. Truly 1 of a kind, and absolutely unique given the circumstances leading to what can be seen as his "re-entry" into the tower. IYKYK

    • @ryanmdommisse
      @ryanmdommisse 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m homosexual I po

    • @darksaint0124
      @darksaint0124 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My belief for years now is that he was born inside the Tower as an Irregular.

    • @jassom1270
      @jassom1270 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@darksaint0124bam was born inside the tower, killed by Jahad, then taken outside the tower and resurrected by an outer god and hidden inside do the cave

    • @aweecastillo69
      @aweecastillo69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bam can be V. From the latest chapter

    • @isaiahmukasa9052
      @isaiahmukasa9052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He can't be because everything in the TUS was planned from the beginning, an anomaly can't exist in a universe that was already written and set by Gods

  • @wavy_soup
    @wavy_soup 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This theory shocked me, it's so well done and it makes me even more hyped for the future of tower of god
    Also, your videos are amazing! Keep up the good work, I share your channel every chance I get

  • @Red.mRk3r
    @Red.mRk3r 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Thank you so much for a theory video I can’t wait to see more.
    Honestly prior to watch your video I really didn't think much of the BaZa theory. But the way you explain the BaZa theory dose make sense. (tho I’m still not 100%convinced ) It does fill in some of the gaps like Gustang saying Baams father was the worst man he’s met and a lot regarding the floor of death.
    And in regards to Baam living inside the walls of the tower and Rachel living on the “ fake floor of death” make so much sense. Like if Rachel was really from the outside why dose has she never seen the stars why dose she act like she doesn’t know anything about anything why dose she talk about the tower like it’s a fairy tale.
    And Arlen calling Baam a monster make sense too since Baam is not her child but the outside god. When Garam was tell Baam about Arlens pocket she said that chid when referring to Arlens baby, cuz it’s technically not Baam. That child is dead Baam is just the outside god( or a fragment of them) using the body of Arlens dead child. So of course Arlen once she finds out would be upset and calling it a monster ( kinda like Yuras brother on the hidden floor when the big breeder took over his body).
    Anyways that’s all for now. I might add more if I remember to :)

  • @olivergacu295
    @olivergacu295 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I ve heard of baza theory on discord so much, but never read it or had interest in it but damn this explanation shook me! Great job brother keep digging, and be successful

  • @aymericschneider628
    @aymericschneider628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Super idée de doubler en anglais, nos amis anglophones vont se régaler et j'espère que tu finiras par avoir les subs que tu mérite 👌

  • @iwasbutchered
    @iwasbutchered 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve only watched 1/2 of this so far but you’re already the best TOG creator. Finally, someone worthy of this great work.

  • @otothex1
    @otothex1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Bam's horns are also intresting, wagnan and endorsi both have physical horns, and bam gets shinsu horns or whatever as his powers manifest. Very intresting. Is that Zahards powers awakening within Bam?
    I also wonder if the sun has any relation to Bam being able to break spells. Its not a stretch saying that the administrators contracts are spells using shinsu. So that would mean Bam has the power to break contracts, i.e. the immortality contract of Arlene.
    Whoever thought this all up is cooking

    • @Unfazed-hn8yf
      @Unfazed-hn8yf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The horn are in no way connected to Zahard at all, the horns are from the red and blue thryssa’s power

    • @otothex1
      @otothex1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Unfazed-hn8yf that kinda depends on how zahard got his horns then doesn't it we dont know if its just a physical trait of zahard or maybe related to some powers of administrators

    • @Unfazed-hn8yf
      @Unfazed-hn8yf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@otothex1 true but we do see that his horns resemble his demon that he obtained from traversing the tower so it’s the same as bam’s but there different demons

  • @TriadicSilver
    @TriadicSilver 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Maybe Arlene had an actual relationship with Jahad but when she found out she was pregnant. She knew jahad would unalive the baby so she left him and agreed to have a relationship with V as a way to save her child by tricking Jahad.

    • @MrBigBasket
      @MrBigBasket 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jahad was jealous of V for being with Arlene so this makes no sense😭

    • @LeonEdwardsGoat
      @LeonEdwardsGoat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MrBigBasketaccording to garam who heard the story from anne who found out about it from arlenes pocket. An ideal broken telephone situation you got there, also arlene coudlve just lied because of her anti zahard agenda

    • @late8138
      @late8138 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im sorry but saying unalive is so corny

  • @LazyBoy215
    @LazyBoy215 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Banger video as always brother

  • @mrbubbles6468
    @mrbubbles6468 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What gives it away to me as not being the fake princes is in S2 Ch0 it says the Prince will return. Implying the Prince isn’t a random person in the tower but rathet someone that has not been around for some time
    And Baam so far is the only character that we know to have actually returned

    • @nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn3888n
      @nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn3888n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be an absolute troll but what If she just meant Prince - you know the purple haired arrogant boy that in the end protected miseng in the hell train and got killed by White .She ist a bored high ranker princess speaking to a close somewhat Personal sister with Yuri.Could be just an insane prank.

  • @weverton3002
    @weverton3002 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your channel was everything I needed about tower of god

  • @yung_richi3190
    @yung_richi3190 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really just binged these vids from the beginning needed it desperately to remember what happened in ToG amazing content bros keep it up

  • @Not____Applicable
    @Not____Applicable 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You know, I actually thought this entire time Baam did look like V it’s just that he only looks like him when he had long hair and SIU showed us the back of V in that one quick flashback of the original climbers of the tower of Icarus supposedly having an admiration of what looked like to be V. Having had that same back view of Baam with the same length of long hair in season 2, it made complete sense that he was Vs son but I just realized we have only ever seen the back of V the entire story. That fact alone could very well be bait setting up for a twist later on that Baam is indeed Jahads son. This video has now made me rethink all the events of season 2 lol. Very good theory.

  • @LarryBudd
    @LarryBudd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    V has been shown and hes definetly baams dad

    • @vibxsz6306
      @vibxsz6306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      After last chapter I think baam is v

    • @mrbubbles6468
      @mrbubbles6468 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@vibxsz6306then Rachel would be Arlean. Everything being a loop makes far too much sense…

    • @Console-l0gger
      @Console-l0gger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      why? because they both have long hair? V has different color of eyes and his hair is much darker that bam's, if anything Bam only looks alike his mother so we can't conclude anything from that, also V is literally somehow sealed in bam which makes you think that he did not outright kill himself, theory is too good to be untrue but siu is a troll so I don't expect anything from him to either deny or reinforce this soon

    • @Console-l0gger
      @Console-l0gger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mrbubbles6468 Rachel is Icarus, not the prince of Jahad but the puppet from the story, not literally but she embodies it's goals

    • @wilmaso
      @wilmaso 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Console-l0ggerrachel is Bamm

  • @dennisprado6346
    @dennisprado6346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    😂 damn this theory is good, I watched this bc I needed something to watch while eating pizza, I do not regret it

  • @darkin1484
    @darkin1484 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    well done. youve done a great deal of thinking and ur theories have solid base. Very nice and great job.

  • @finn8858
    @finn8858 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This theory made sense until the latest chapter lmao (ch.638)

    • @LeonEdwardsGoat
      @LeonEdwardsGoat หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Still could be tho, Zahard trapping himself doesnt really matter.

  • @mugiwara5324
    @mugiwara5324 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    but what if, arlene first said bam was a monster and afterwards she said that he was the savior? but then again, the devouring part doesn’t fit with my idea right?

    • @fakerweldi7879
      @fakerweldi7879 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *Spoiler Alert*
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      If you read the last chapter, you will have discovered that she was speaking about "V" who resides inside Bam, which leads us to a dark discovery. "V" is either the savior that she was talking about, or he is the "monster," which might explain how "V" died.

  • @miken1c337
    @miken1c337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    We need some updated theory videos after these recent chapters

    • @MiragedesReves
      @MiragedesReves 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He said on live twitch that he is waiting for the end of the current arc to make a big video on it, as a lot of new information arrives in each chapter this could risk invalidating the analyses without waiting. There is also a gap of about 20 chapters between those in English and those in French (he reads in French)

  • @ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795
    @ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Maybe you should change the channel name and cover art to help with views. When I found this channel, about a month back, I was like, “wait… is this a tower of god TH-cam channel???”

    • @WatWoWen
      @WatWoWen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This will not be a tower of god youtube channel, even if for now there's only ToG videos

    • @malldropemoff
      @malldropemoff 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WatWoWenu should put anime’s u talk about in yo banner so people know who talk about it some times

  • @MrEvans1
    @MrEvans1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well, we know there are many towers, and many gods/ Axises outside.
    Maybe Jahad was sent by a faction to try and conquer this tower and failed so he blocked the path after hearing the prophecy about baam who was fated to become the god of this tower.
    We have also seen powers fueled by souls. What if in order to become an axis the tower gets sacrificed with all living things in it?

    • @MrEvans1
      @MrEvans1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would be a reason for certain factions to "resist" climbing the tower, maybe is the main reason the administrators allowed jahad to make that deal and basically change how climbing the tower works.

  • @carledouard5428
    @carledouard5428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What if it’s for the prince’s to acquire the 13 months series. Jahad made it that they need each other to unlock the gates anyway but what if it’s for the princess to be strong enough to look for the prince of jahad and work together for the prince to wield all since the princess can’t.

  • @mighty7579
    @mighty7579 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just caught up with TOG these videos helped me appreciate the story and helped me with concepts that went over my head great content.

  • @azureraven4389
    @azureraven4389 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Something very Dark bieng is inside Baam that's for shore, now we can theory's further because the newest chapter.
    It's gonna be truly Rachel's destiny to lead Baam all this way,and she know who or what is Baam It's getting really interesting.

  • @MrEvans1
    @MrEvans1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    29:26 the flaw of this theory is that you cant be an irregular if you were born in the tower, you need to be an "outsider".
    Also how can he open the door and "enter the tower" if he was on the 43th floor😂

    • @deusex17kkfkdklsl19
      @deusex17kkfkdklsl19 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He said rachel was but you had road from 43th floor to the cave and the cave is well between outside and inside the tower .

  • @curtisgoldthorpe6656
    @curtisgoldthorpe6656 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey man, Amazing video you have become my new go to ToG lore master. please keep up the goodwork :)

  • @darakkriess1030
    @darakkriess1030 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Not gonna lie but from the latest chapters, it’s kinda looking like V is the father 😂 bam looks just like him especially when he has long hair. Plus bro we see he’s selfless just like bam

    • @Zarene.
      @Zarene. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bam with short kinda also looked like Zahard without yellow hair,eyes or fangs and Zahard was also a selfless person before he changed

    • @darakkriess1030
      @darakkriess1030 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Zarene. that’s just what you want to believe for the jahad agenda but the devil is in the details especially knowing that part of V is inside bam

    • @Zarene.
      @Zarene. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @darakkriess1030 it's been stated/confirmed multiple times that Zahard was once a good person a Shonen like type, and Siu himself said that Bam is very similar to Zahard past self,V being inside bam doesn't mean anything and he seems to have turned evil too no different from other Great warriors as Gustang said he was the worse person he ever met and written in his book that "all 13 of us are sinners

    • @Zarene.
      @Zarene. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @darakkriess1030 we aren't even sure if Bam is even really, Arlen son,as Garam told him on fod that Arlen child is dead even if Bam was standing in front of her when saying that,implying that only the body is those of Arlen late son not what is in it

    • @darakkriess1030
      @darakkriess1030 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zarene. sorry but there’s more proof V is the daddy, ya’ll gotta bring more to this jahad theory than that

  • @calvinwilson3617
    @calvinwilson3617 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For those not aware, Baam in korean means "Night", in the japanese dub he is actually called Yoru (also night)

  • @ilucasz
    @ilucasz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    43:18 My take is that Jyu Viole Grace died when Zahard killed him, but 25th was born when the Outside God revived the body. Like they are two separate beings and Bam is the one we see growing and evolving both as a person but as a warrior too.

  • @nebulaaaaaa.
    @nebulaaaaaa. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The goat❤ j'aime trop ton travail

  • @cynicalmandate
    @cynicalmandate 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Is the Tower a Deception? And is Jahad really evil or did he lock away something that was dangerous? So dangerous that he would be ruthless in preventing it from being opened?
    I'm beginning to wonder...

  • @jax6501
    @jax6501 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this video is 6 months old but i have to say your theory was very well explained & completely plausible. I always wondered of Rachel went to kill Bam to steal his "destiny". Your theory makes way more sense, she definitely wanted to use him to open the tower.

  • @Serajiman
    @Serajiman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have a theory that Rachel is the 'Prince' of Jahad. The quote from Jaina Repellista saying "It's time for them to appear" - I don't think it's meant as the plural form of then, but a tactic by SIU to mystify the gender of the true Prince. Rachel has the same hair and eye colour as Jahad, received (for some reason) advance help from Headon upon entering the tower, and seems to be amassing broader great family support behind the scenes.

    • @Yummynomnom123
      @Yummynomnom123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Im pretty sure Rachel and the other blonde hair kid are jhads "children" He gave rachel his ability to control events in the tower with his will and he gave Wangnan his immortality. and determination. That's how he was able to have children. That's why they say them. Also i haven't finished the vid, due to not wanting to get spoiled. I read the story once a year from the beginning and yes season 2 is called return of the prince and who is introduced in the first chapter, who is now on the rise ascending the tower unlike before where he was stuck (hiding from an outsiders point of view), yes the prince has returned and he ascending. To me its obvious but there may be things i'm missing. Also Bam couldn't take the truth maybe due to having to possibly kill his friend, because I don't think jihad is even at the top of the tower anymore, he never shows up anywhere. I think he died or split himself with creating those two his descendants inheriting his wish to climb the tower. He probably couldn't climb it for some reason. Both Wangnan and Rachel sole purpose and goal is to climb the tower Jihads' will.

    • @MrEvans1
      @MrEvans1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Yummynomnom123 wasnt karaka. Wagnan's brother?

    • @Yummynomnom123
      @Yummynomnom123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrEvans1 I saw a few sources that say he is and isnt. I'm a bit confused, but this might also be the reason he hides his face, his connection to jihad

  • @rexchance5598
    @rexchance5598 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When reading ToG for the first time I was wondering if Baam accidentally killed Rachel's parents as a baby and was banished into the cave afterwards for being too dangerous to live among the other people of whatever place they were growing up in. If Arlene's death is really a core motivation for Rachel's rejection of Baam's companionship, that would make me a little bit happy just for proving my teenage self partially correct.

  • @Hasssan-q8v
    @Hasssan-q8v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job and good theory,
    Can't wait for your next one ❤

  • @jetstream5801
    @jetstream5801 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is crazy I never noticed that Rachel is carrying a knife when she visits in the cave…

  • @totallycisgender
    @totallycisgender 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Using this video to motivate myself to start reading tower of god again 💔 why does it have to be so long 😭

  • @Bradbarry226
    @Bradbarry226 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A GOAT was found this day

  • @davidjohnson129
    @davidjohnson129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A few times you said baam than you said bam and my OCD was killing me 😂😂😂 Love your videos though! Amazing break down!

  • @rodrigosa1162
    @rodrigosa1162 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    keep the good work, i love your videos

  • @Kunalghosh-i6c
    @Kunalghosh-i6c 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You just combined two different theories and made them one theory. There are some reason's bam is not jahad's son
    1) gustang said to bam your father was the worst person I have ever meet. But jahad is alive why would he use 'was' if he is not dead
    2) siu in a blog post said bam and Rachel are link to the mysteries outside the tower and prince of jahad is a character who is linked with the mysteries inside the tower
    3) and the person talking to gustang in the radio asked who is the real prince of jahad. Because he and gustang both doesn't know who the real prince is so that's why gustang didn't help wangnan. Because he doesn't knew he is the prince

  • @sgc1505
    @sgc1505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this theory so well done. Only thing I would say is that if he was jahads son surely he’d be physically stronger. Like a princess of jahad

  • @jorgenafagervik
    @jorgenafagervik 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video! It’s my favorite fiction story for a reason, and I’m glad someone’s going in depth about all the different topics this story has to offer! Now let’s just hope that SIU’s health stays intact😅

    • @WatWoWen
      @WatWoWen  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! I hope he'll stay in good form too

  • @salah-4197
    @salah-4197 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the theory is very well put together but it still does not explain the huge door baam opens in the begging of the story if the cave is inside the tower walls, unless that door is like a tunnel to the very first floor or just a visual representation but not a physical door anyway this point does not really make much sense to me

    • @WatWoWen
      @WatWoWen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In this theory, the cave is considered to be outside the Tower, even if it's not really outside technically. The whole theory is based on the fact that you can be considered outside the Tower without actually leaving it, as if there were an invisible limit beyond which the Tower's laws no longer apply.

  • @kenshin391
    @kenshin391 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm confused why wouldn't Jahad want to continue through the tower if he was already the strongest unless Enryu or Phantaminum are on the next floor and he knew that?

  • @deusex17kkfkdklsl19
    @deusex17kkfkdklsl19 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video is very crazy and deep down in the dark side and depth of tog thanks for this video

  • @AliMekkaoui-b3u
    @AliMekkaoui-b3u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If you have read the last chapters you'd see that V is looking exactly as Bam when he was young especially when Bam had long hair they're very similar the only difference between them are the golden eyes that I think Bam got them from his mother Arlene Grace

    • @thieroyattabary3124
      @thieroyattabary3124 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That don't prouf anything because their only ressemblance is their haircut all other trait are from her mother. And if we talk about personnality he is clearly not lile baam in contrary of jahad who is always stated to look lile him in personnality

  • @willymartinez2882
    @willymartinez2882 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video keep the content 😃 i know maybe it's to much work but it would be cool if You do a Review like you did with the nest with the other arcs of tog hell train, workshop battle etc

    • @WatWoWen
      @WatWoWen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think I'll do it one day, but it'll be a long time from now because I think it would be more interesting to analyze the previous arcs once we've learned some big revelations, because we'll realize that some elements of the previous arcs had a double meaning, we'll be able to note the foreshadowing, we'll have a better overall view, etc. So yes, if I do any analysis of the previous arcs, it will be when we've progressed much further in the plot.

  • @josegar30
    @josegar30 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been years since last I read this (train arc). Thank you for the summary

  • @jonathonpolk3592
    @jonathonpolk3592 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Many of these theories are possible if you assume that some of the narrators are unreliable, or that Zahard could be lying. So it's entirely possible that Jahad could have biological kids.
    But if Jahad did have bio children, I don't think it would be Baam. Rather, I think it would be Rachel. That's why she took the ring from Wangnan and acted like she had a right to it. That's why she is also powerless like Wangnan. That's why she resembles Jahad. That's why she has an antagonistic relationship with Baam and speaks with mixed feelings about Arlen. I wouldn't be surprised if Rachel was Jahad and Arlen's kid that was born after Jahad killed Baam, which would make Rachel and Baam half siblings.

  • @Grux_ASG
    @Grux_ASG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ill be bingeing your videos your doing gods work

  • @a_maxed_out_handle_of_30_chars
    @a_maxed_out_handle_of_30_chars 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the video is too small :(
    was hooked from the start, can't wait to see what things will change with recent events and thank you :)

  • @mrbubbles6468
    @mrbubbles6468 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Has anyone ever mentioned that in the cave, underneath the Jahad symbol, their is a crucifix?

  • @MrEnryu-bt3nk
    @MrEnryu-bt3nk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow this blew up congrats!! Keep the contents this amazing ❤

  • @TheLastCrow5150
    @TheLastCrow5150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And then there's Phantaminum who's an Axis... I get a feeling he's used as SIU's persona in the story since they literally play the same role.
    The amount of Bible references is insane. TOG parallels the Bible everywhere.
    There's a lot to the puzzle. Like Rachel; how does she fit in?

  • @hectorornelas8306
    @hectorornelas8306 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad I found your channel we need more TOG content.. the only thing I don’t understand with the theory is if they were on the 43rd floor how did he end up in the bottom floor when he entered? Maybe I’m just not understanding

    • @WatWoWen
      @WatWoWen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Because it's where you start the ascension when you open the door of the tower yourself and that they wasn't in the 43 floor technically but outside the tower, in Baam's cave

  • @TheSunGodNika93
    @TheSunGodNika93 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a few complaints but this was solid theory crafting 👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿

  • @hey608
    @hey608 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I think Jahad could have killed Bam because a vision from the future.
    1. Bam kill him.
    2. Bam kill the love of his life Arlene.
    3. The dead of all FH who are his friends (since Bam enter the tower they have mentioned he is the key of the star of the war between the FH and end of them.
    4. The destruction of the tower.
    5. He saw the monster that Arlene was talking about it.

    • @vincenthammons-kd9du
      @vincenthammons-kd9du 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zahard never had a shot with Arlene its pretty simple he is just a simp who can't get over being rejected

    • @LeonEdwardsGoat
      @LeonEdwardsGoat หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@vincenthammons-kd9duAnd why do you think thats true? Garam herself said the story she told Bam wasnt the truth lmao

  • @Serene0910
    @Serene0910 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I always laughed at the theory of bam being jahad's son but this video shook me, now I can't see anything but that possibility , you should've also covered the question scene of who's bam and it saying "he's not the promised one" tog lore is so wide and mysterious that it's always open to do many possible theories

    • @vincenthammons-kd9du
      @vincenthammons-kd9du 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hes clearly not his son since jahad has blond hair

    • @h0zumi
      @h0zumi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@vincenthammons-kd9du Arlene has brown hair

    • @prince_1018
      @prince_1018 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@h0zumiSiu kill theory of bam is Zahad son in chapter 630, go and read it

    • @prince_1018
      @prince_1018 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@h0zumibam is exactly like V with the hair and eyes color of Arlene

  • @ShadyEli
    @ShadyEli 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    bam and v look alike in the most recent chapters

    • @Unfazed-hn8yf
      @Unfazed-hn8yf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably because their father and son…
      Shhhhhh

    • @ShadyEli
      @ShadyEli 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Unfazed-hn8yf i’m responding to the video where… they claim they’re not father and son 🤯

    • @Unfazed-hn8yf
      @Unfazed-hn8yf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ShadyEli …
      Still tho too much

  • @kizanovas
    @kizanovas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13 min into the vid but the theory of V not being Bams dad becomes interesting and questionable especially after Endiku tried to take over Bams body only to find v inside of Bams ''inner world''. (Edit: a resemblance Bam has to V is his face shape and when Bam was jue viole grace during the workshop battle ect he had identical hair to V's in the recent chapters where we actually see V's face and hair fully.)

  • @MastaNeko
    @MastaNeko 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7 months later and it's been revealed that Bam is indeed V's son.

    • @MastaNeko
      @MastaNeko 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ah man. The reveals in the last couple chapters about Bam being V's son and what happened to V is INSANE!!!

  • @oliverprain7613
    @oliverprain7613 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please sir. I come to you cap in hand. We need more lore vids!!!!

  • @jimenez2403
    @jimenez2403 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have a theory that rachel is a true princess of jahad and resents bam for being a love child as opposed to seeing her own life as a mistake.

    • @malldropemoff
      @malldropemoff 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      is this shit still on going ?

    • @MrEvans1
      @MrEvans1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The whole point of rachel is that she is a total average person.

  • @Thugiz
    @Thugiz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the captain/boss mentioned when talking about bam that he was from a noble bloodline and who else on the tower has a noble blood yep...

  • @victorohiovbeunu2730
    @victorohiovbeunu2730 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Turns out bam might be V fam going off latest chapters

  • @Poppyrae
    @Poppyrae 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please make another theory video after you read through ch 635. Since it’s not in fast pass English yet I won’t spoil but wild stuff is happening

  • @Star_Imp
    @Star_Imp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this was an amazing theory :D

  • @prince_1018
    @prince_1018 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Chapter 630 and 631 literally confirm 80% to 90% that bam is V son, btw you literally said that Bam didn't resembles V after you read chapter 630 and 631 then you regret saying it, Bam is just like copy of V with different hair and eyes colour.

    • @warrenramsammy726
      @warrenramsammy726 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same hair and eye color

    • @prince_1018
      @prince_1018 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@warrenramsammy726 V hair colour is black and eyes colour are blue and Bam hair colour is brown black and eyes colour are golden, he got his eyes and hairs colour from his mother

  • @leafdragoon8551
    @leafdragoon8551 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally I think the person on the radio is actually Headon since Macseth using a radio because he's old-fashioned doesn't make sense when he is the head of the Workshop that creates advanced technology. Also the person on the radio refers to the Workshop as if they themself aren't part of it.

    • @mickaelberte5144
      @mickaelberte5144 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not all scientific love new technology like einstein was hating new technology even if helped to create them same was pascal and many other . Sometimes these guys love old reliable techno over new techno
      Add the guy on radio said to gustang ( something similar i gave you the key to make this event ) masceth would'nt let headon or gustang make a workshop event without him knowing it .

  • @devon9292
    @devon9292 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the biggest hole here is why didn't urek try to escape on the 43rd floor after the admin was killed

    • @isaiahmukasa9052
      @isaiahmukasa9052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pretty interesting 🤔

  • @MpanzuELWik
    @MpanzuELWik 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GG mec je me souviens que je t'avais dit à l'époque que tu devais faire tes vids en anglais. Sérieusement t'as dû travailler dure sur ton aglais, bravo. Je te presenterais bien à Nya D. Hemmingz. Il organise des meetings entre des TOGs videastes. Ça swrait cool de te voir interagir avec eux.

    • @myone191000
      @myone191000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just so you know c'est une ia qui parle avec la voix de Lilian

  • @gamerse7en560
    @gamerse7en560 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that long arc for S2 was the Hell Train Arc dang that ones long but so good

  • @vichvong7272
    @vichvong7272 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i felt so dumb 47 min ago cuz of how much detail i’ve over look

  • @davidberdugo1456
    @davidberdugo1456 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, on why Zahad doesn't want to keep on climbing the tower... if we see the tower as a quest world for heroes, and the 13 adventurers that first climbed the tower, were champions that had access to a world to conquer it and having great power in it from the begging, this story structuring is very familiar and widely used in manga. Now, thinking about the basics of that kind of story, probably when they reach the top of the tower, the quest will be over, and they will go back to their world, in which they have no power, whereas if they stay in the tower, they are god-like beings. It's likely that Zahad is aware of that fact, and he just doesn't want to quit to the power he has there, nor his immortality. Now, this is rather a simplistic way of seeing it, but it might work as a baseline, even if at the end it's ultimately packed in a more complex way. Thoughts?

  • @donk8961
    @donk8961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The red elves and the dwarves are "blessed by the tower", perhaps predating the adventurers & jahad. Those children's stories could be arlen's retelling of events geared towards kids

  • @AsuraHearts
    @AsuraHearts 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The current chapter of tower of god going crazy rn

  • @xgerra16
    @xgerra16 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The more Seasons of the anime will come the more lore-hungry people there will be. Remember this is the lowest your channel and Tower of God community will be! It’s only up from here!

    • @Vex5858
      @Vex5858 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts

  • @the25thnight80
    @the25thnight80 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wow my mind is kinda blown

  • @astralnaught9431
    @astralnaught9431 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forget to mention Rachel says the tower chose her not bam he’s not supposed to be there that the gate opened for her, but it seems like bam opened the door for her

  • @brendanfields3691
    @brendanfields3691 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe she calls him the 25th baam becoise he's the 25th version to be revived don't even think it makes sense lol but a cool idea

  • @VitanovaFR
    @VitanovaFR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Je sais pas si tu te rends compte à quel point il y a un désert de contenu intéressant ToG à part votre bande .. j'ai binge ton contenu et maintenant j'ai plus rien a regarder lol alors je me refais les vids en anglais. Merci et bon weekend de pacques

  • @TheLastCrow5150
    @TheLastCrow5150 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The amount of bible references is uncanny!
    Yet again, numerous stories use the Bible as a reference.
    TOG probably has the most bible references of any series I've read.

  • @Daniel-Adanri
    @Daniel-Adanri 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Plot twits jahad saw a monster (god) who could destroy the tower.

  • @EliasZamora
    @EliasZamora 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jahad is the fake king (said by Enryu) and Baam a real prince, so I guess there is no real son/father connection here.

  • @leandroleao3938
    @leandroleao3938 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think that sometimes "tower of god" could actually be the tower that would create a god, taking into account that the king of artificial creation said that she itself cannot create a god, so the tower could be nothing more than one of several experiments to create a god, and the irregulars are technically the only really real humans, not created by the king of artificial creation, and the headon is like an administrator so that the test proceeds in the correct way, and so with the one who arrives at the at the end of the tower, you can have everything you want, as you have become a god and can do anything, both creating and destroying the entire universe, something a bit like the tale of Ragnarok

    • @leandroleao3938
      @leandroleao3938 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and so enryu could be one of those responsible for taking care of the project, for example, it would explain the difference in time inside and outside the tower, and phantaminun could have entered the tower to see this candidate for god, coming across zahard and seeing that he was not big deal, since the real protagonist of the story is Baam. The outside world seems to be one of constant struggle with unimaginable powers, and sometimes the dream of someone very powerful is to test the limits of the powers they possess, which could lead to the complete destruction and recreation of the universe, something that we can refer to ourselves with all these weapons of mass destruction that we created.

  • @amrovine4029
    @amrovine4029 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    First off i want to say that I really love your content but i don't think this theory makes sense narratively speaking, i mean the core of course that bam is Zahard's son but i agree with alot of the surrounding details, like the second half of the theory which is really interesting, and the fact that V did not just kill himself
    The reason i disagree is because i believe the prince of Zahard is wangnan and the other Zahard look alikes, wangnan looks like Zahard, he seems to be immortal and he was referred to as "the seed of the king" on the hell train, and the fact that Wangnan has a ring with the Zahard symbol on it, also there's another very strong piece of evidence that suggests that wangnan, karaka & "the boss" are the prince of Zahard in the most recent Korean chapters but i don't want to spoil
    I think the basis of this theory about Garam's & Gustang's conversations with baam are very weak, there's a ton of possibilities as to why Gustang would refer to 'v' as the worst or about garam not telling baam the full story, i personally don't see any piece of evidence here
    Also how come baam is way weaker physically than endorsi who is only strong physically because she has some of Zahard's blood in her
    There's also the name that was given to baam by F.U.G. (Jue Viole Grace) which I'm theorising is his real name which means he was named after his father and as we all know 'V' is just an affectionate name given by arlene

    • @chinarvartak4738
      @chinarvartak4738 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well... His theory is just that... A theory...
      Also I agree with you...
      There are a few fundamental holes in this theory...

    • @deusex17kkfkdklsl19
      @deusex17kkfkdklsl19 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For baam being weak physically is just maybe he inherited much of his mother than his dad , can add outside god modified the whole body of baam is very possible

    • @amrovine4029
      @amrovine4029 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chinarvartak4738 well yeah, we're allowed to disagree with theories right? He himself said this at the end

    • @amrovine4029
      @amrovine4029 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deusex17kkfkdklsl19 I don't think so

    • @chinarvartak4738
      @chinarvartak4738 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amrovine4029 yeah we are allowed to...

  • @ilucasz
    @ilucasz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:00 That aged like milk bro... Never believe SIU's silhouettes, remember Yama, Urek and Traumerei's. They're not close to what they really look like. V now is basically Bam but Himbo.

  • @late8138
    @late8138 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats the song used from 9:33 onwards, its amazing😮
    edit: I was blind and didnt see the name on screen, I wonder if this uses the same vocal samples as kevin penkin does in the tower or god OST, it sounds identical.

  • @Agetroh
    @Agetroh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:57 that was just a copy of Jahad though and doesn’t mean that the current Jahad doesn’t know of Baam’s existence…

  • @God_Onefruit306
    @God_Onefruit306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think it a prince but it may not be a human and when jahad killed him he probably fused that prince with baam or jahad blood was in Baam that probably help in his revival

    • @God_Onefruit306
      @God_Onefruit306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jahad blood was to strong but what if baam was revived with that blood or fused with that blood

    • @God_Onefruit306
      @God_Onefruit306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It could be like a 2 souls in one body if baam was revived with his blood

    • @God_Onefruit306
      @God_Onefruit306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or jahad force his blood in v or something like that

    • @God_Onefruit306
      @God_Onefruit306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      V could be jahad, what I mean is like v could be like a part jahad like a clone

  • @Celestial-rn4vm
    @Celestial-rn4vm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm new to the Tower of God community, so I'm not sure if this is widely known, but it seems quite evident to me. Bam was born on the 25th night, the same night as Jesus Christ, who is believed to be the Son of God and possesses some of His power. This leads me to believe that Bam is being paralleled with Jesus.
    Moreover, Jesus Christ was born in either a stable or a cave, depending on the version of the story. His parents, Joseph and Mary, traveled to Bethlehem for a census while Mary was pregnant. They stayed in either a cave or a stable in Bethlehem. However, it's important to note that Joseph is not Jesus' biological father; Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, making Mary a virgin mother.
    So we have a cave and a child who is connected to God.
    Whether the author intended Zahard to be the father of Bam, who referred to as a god by tower inhabitants, or an actual God being his father, is open to debate. Both interpretations could fit. If Bam is indeed the son of a god and not of V, it could make sense for Zahard to want to kill him, as Bam would be considered the offspring of a deity.
    In a more vague sense, a wise man found Jesus guided by stars, seeking the newborn king, who is Jesus. Stars played a significant role in this narrative. This could suggest a parallel between Bam and Zahard, as Zahard is the king of the tower.
    Interestingly, there is a Rachel mentioned in Bethlehem, the exact same place where Jesus was born, but she is the wife of a man named Jacob. These two are the parents of Joseph, who is the father of Jesus. Additionally, Joseph was one of the twelve children who represented the twelve tribes of Israel, exactly where the tower of Babel is located. This might be a reference to the twelve warriors from Tower of God.
    The Tower of Babel is a familiar story. Located in Israel, the same land where Jesus was born and where his ancestor King David ruled, it is said to have been built to reach heaven after a great flood. However, God intervened by causing people to speak different languages, halting the construction of the tower. This aspect of the story resonates with the concept in Tower of God where a device is needed to understand each other, and the climb up the tower eventually becomes impossible, much like the Tower of Babel's halted construction.
    Although I'm not entirely sure about the story's themes, it strongly appears that Tower of God draws inspiration from Israel and the Tower of Babel.

    • @chad63
      @chad63 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, well creators tend to copy existing famous stories from the real world and oda is especially notorious for this. i kind of hate this because originality is questioned. they are just copying different existing stories and meshing them up together and saying its original lol

    • @mickaelberte5144
      @mickaelberte5144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chad63inspiration do not mean copy

    • @chad63
      @chad63 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mickaelberte5144 inspiration is the less pirating meaning of copy lol

    • @MrEvans1
      @MrEvans1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jahad is the emperor , but compared to the bible he wasnt murdering all babies😅

    • @chad63
      @chad63 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MrEvans1​guess what?

  • @miguelmorais6414
    @miguelmorais6414 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lovely theory

  • @legendaryrelish7815
    @legendaryrelish7815 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if Rachel is Arlen reborn and that’s why bam keeps chasing her

  • @BlueNish12
    @BlueNish12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A question. Do you think rechal is a guide for bam.