Q&A 30: ACRs, Besas, and Czechoslovakia

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    Another month, another Q&A!
    00:24 - Why did the British adopted the Besa?
    03:51 - Reproduction French WW1 uniforms
    (www.doursoux.com)
    04:54 - Could the Magpul Masada/ACR worked as a replacement AR upper?
    08:02 - Why are auto-ejecting magazines not popular?
    11:03 - What smaller countries have impressive small arms development?
    13:50 - En-bloc clips - pros? Cons? History?
    18:21 - Smaller/faster cartridges in future handguns?
    20:14 - How is group size measured?
    24:03 - Guns with added ballast just to control recoil?
    26:04 - Guns that fire open-bolt in full auto and closed-bolt on semi
    29:17 - Future of the SIG 550 series in the US?
    31:51 - Will there be an ebook version of Chassepot to FAMAS?
    33:31 - Would the Dreyse have been good in the US Civil War?
    34:19 - Memorably surprising auction prices
    36:10 - How did I hurt myself on an EM2?
    37:25 - Most advanced arms that could have been made ca. 1900?
    40:06 - Thoughts on the Daewoo K2
    41:29 - French trials of the Madsen LMG
    42:01 - Lefty-friendly rifles and pistols
    43:26 - British 4.85mm
    (The Last Enfield: amzn.to/2wdvv0f)
    44:55 - Lunch at Rock Island Auction Co
    46:27 - What weapon for fighting Franco in 1936?
    49:12 - What are the most interesting firearm locking and operating systems?
    49:50 - What "Forgotten Weapon" do I want to see back in production?
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  • @Snadzies
    @Snadzies 5 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    At 1.6 mill you had better have documentation that Samuel Colt used the revolver to massage his prostate.

    • @coaxill4059
      @coaxill4059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Maybe that's why he was so grumpy after the invention of the Dragoon.

    • @niallhiggins2342
      @niallhiggins2342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I read this comment before I got there and had so many questions

    • @mcintoshpc
      @mcintoshpc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Just come on down to the colt museum you can see the prototype that he did it with ;)

    • @Pleksilasi
      @Pleksilasi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mcintoshpc What? Seriously?

    • @Colonel_Bat_Guano
      @Colonel_Bat_Guano ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Pleksilasi12 bucks to take a sniff

  • @dbmail545
    @dbmail545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    "Load a Mosin from stripper clips you will hate life" So true. I have always believed that the magazine release on the Mosin was to remedy rim-lock.

    • @bubba200874426
      @bubba200874426 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rimmed cartridges in box magazines are pain. Loading .30 carbine mags from stripper clips is not super great anyway. I really wouldn't want to put them together.

    • @rednecksniper4715
      @rednecksniper4715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Loading the clips correctly is the remedy to rim lock

    • @kurtvanduran7725
      @kurtvanduran7725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I occasionally find my mosin magazine wont feeding after loading a stripper clip, I find that when that happens toss a loose round in the chamber and fire it and that usually knocks loose whatever was causing the problem and it usually feeds fine after... strange but so it is

    • @moronoftheoxyvarietys489
      @moronoftheoxyvarietys489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not using a Mosin is a remedy to rim lock.

  • @coldwarrior7812
    @coldwarrior7812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My Dad carried a 1928 or 1921 Thomson in WWII and loved it. Told me it fired from closed bolt in semi and open bolt in auto. He hated the newer models that didn't do that and fought to keep his "old" gun. Finally lost his original during Battle of Bulge but found another by March so he still had one when he entered Germany proper. Said it was surprisingly accurate in semi.

  • @DeadlyPlatypus
    @DeadlyPlatypus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Ian: some of the concepts you're discussing for accuracy are CEP (Circular Error Probable) or the individual components which are REP (Range Error Probable) and DEP (Deflection Error Probable).
    We use these primarily for measuring the accuracy of air dropped munitions in the military, but they can be adapted to rifle accuracy.
    It's too complicated to discuss in the comments (they're statistical distributions), but would make an interesting addendum to this video.

    • @bubba200874426
      @bubba200874426 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm picturing it as a standard deviation graph. After you get a certain point from the center, anything outside can be considered an aberration(usually to 90-95% confidence) That would be your expected cone of fire. That takes a large sample size to arrive at, however.

    • @DeadlyPlatypus
      @DeadlyPlatypus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bubba200874426 That's basically what it is. We use confines that require either 50% or 90% of all weapons to fall within the CEP (at least, predictively). Everything outside of (essentially) 3 std deviations is considered a "gross error." We still calculate and express it in weapons' accuracy data, but generally as its own catergory (much like throwing out "fliers" at the rifle range).
      i.e. - "unless you miss wildly (gross error), 50% or 90% (depending on your preference) of your shots will land within __inches of the aimpoint (in any direction)"
      REP and DEP can be MORE useful as you look at range error (or, if applied to rifle ballistics: vertical deflection) and deflection error (or, if applied to rifle ballistics: horizontal deflection) as separate data points, which can help you determine WHY you aren't always hitting the point of aim (especially if there's a trend in error value in one plain compared to the other; think Ballistic Coeffecient affecting wind drift more than bullet "drop").

    • @FIREBRAND38
      @FIREBRAND38 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually he's referring to measuring groups using the *Mean Radius* . The CEP is actually defined as the radius of the circle about the mean point of impact (MPI) of the group which contains 50% of the shots fired. This circle has a radius of 1.1774σ or standard deviations. A circle with a radius of 3 std would actually contain approximately 99% of the shots fired when you do the math.
      But Ian was only talking about measuring groups, not using those measurements to calculate hit probability.

  • @UlmontWeathers
    @UlmontWeathers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Parts interchangeability between tanks and planes isn't a thing unless you're the USA and you're putting Stearman engines in Shermans.

    • @spartan8705
      @spartan8705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Or Britain, and shoving a supercharger-less Merlin in your Cromwell/Challenger/Comet/Centurion

    • @wer2young2die
      @wer2young2die ปีที่แล้ว +3

      or USSR, putting attack helicopter engine into T-80 tanks

    • @samuelferrell9257
      @samuelferrell9257 ปีที่แล้ว

      USA in WW2 : put a ma'deuce on it!

  • @Wabbitsw
    @Wabbitsw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just pointing out how awesome it is that you add time stamps for each question.

  • @yop_cholo
    @yop_cholo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Haha, I knew the last question would bring the FAMAS to the table, it had to.
    Believe me Ian, a lot of French shooters would love to get their hands on a FAMAS valorisé...

  • @MilsurpMikeChannel
    @MilsurpMikeChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    On the enbloc clips... It depends on which ones you talk about. I learned about this while researching the Berthier. The Austro-Hungarian clips were well built but cost prohibitive. The clips for the Gew88 were absolute junk but cheap (perhaps a big reason for the development of stripper clips). Berthier came up with a clip using spring steel that could be made in a single operation with a workbench press (this was later applied to Garand Clips) which made them strong and very cheap.

  • @markyoung2981
    @markyoung2981 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always a very interesting and informative session, thank you for your time posting these presentations.

  • @LisaKeskitalo
    @LisaKeskitalo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I have a Mauser C 96. I saw a crazy configuration of 8 of them being used as an anti aircraft gun in a WW1 plane.

    • @andrewwaterman9240
      @andrewwaterman9240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've seen that photo. If they were Schnellfeuers, which didn't enter production until 1932, that would mean 160 rounds in about 1-1/3 seconds, and then God knows how long to reload. If conventional C96's, you'd be limited to 10 salvoes of 8 rounds each, and even longer to reload. An interesting but impractical idea which was unsuccessful.

    • @LisaKeskitalo
      @LisaKeskitalo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Davien McCarty, I paid $1,599 for it and I bought it 4 months ago. Sorry but it’s not for sale. My C96 is probably my favorite gun I have. I’m actually a women. I’m a history professor and a PhD. I have always been fascinated with military technology. Ever since I was 18 I have been collecting military surplus firearms. My C 96 is number 25 in my collection of antique firearms.

    • @brasstard7.627
      @brasstard7.627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Look up the ppsh41 being used as a aircraft gun. They bolted dozens together in ww2 on the bottom of an airplane

    • @LisaKeskitalo
      @LisaKeskitalo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brasstard 7.62, that doesn’t surprise me at all. The US tried mounting Thompson SMG’s on aircraft wings as well. I believe that was one of John Thompson’s attempts at selling the Tommy Gun after WW1 ended and he couldn’t get any customers.

    • @LisaKeskitalo
      @LisaKeskitalo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Andrew Waterman, the Austria Hungarian Air Force had a rig with 10 C96 pistols with 10 to 25 round magazines. So you had between 100 and 250 rounds before you had to reload the 10 C96’s. This rig was made between 1915 and 1916. My C96 is my 25th military surplus firearm. I’m a female history professor with a PhD. Being into history I have always been fascinated with military technology. I started collecting milsurp firearms when I was 18. My first was a Mauser K98k.

  • @triggerfingerstudios
    @triggerfingerstudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Hey Ian, I've got a Daewoo DR-200 i could supply for a video or mud test. (And a lefty friendly Walther P5!) Drop me a note

    • @BennyLlama39
      @BennyLlama39 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Didn't Daewoo make electronics back in the day?

    • @EB-xl6db
      @EB-xl6db 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@BennyLlama39 still do

    • @nindger4270
      @nindger4270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@BennyLlama39 yes, but Daewoo was a conglomerate that had heavy industry and defence divisions as well. These kinds of companies operating in several different industries instead of specializing in one single field were very common in many countries for a long time, Japan being another one. A good example is Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi is not a company, it's a brand name under which about 200 companies operate.

    • @triggerfingerstudios
      @triggerfingerstudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BennyLlama39 Still do!

    • @paulshayter1113
      @paulshayter1113 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Robin Schuhmacher, Kawasaki is another company like that. Really known as a motorcycle company, Kawasaki could shut down it's motorcycle division and it probably wouldn't even be a blip in the company's bottom line.

  • @SolidSioux1987
    @SolidSioux1987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Coffee, breakfast and Forgotten Weapons, awesome way to start the day!

  • @chrisloUSA
    @chrisloUSA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These q and A's always make my drive home from work enjoyable and quick.

  • @sambaggins2798
    @sambaggins2798 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Special operations is now getting a new SIG upper with an integral surge suppressor. I’m retired now but the guys still on teams like em.

  • @FIREBRAND38
    @FIREBRAND38 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ian, you're thinking of measuring groups using Mean Radius which is one of the most useful. Actually the most common measurement used is Extreme Spread which is simply the difference between the centers of the two farthest shots which is simple to measure and understand but leaves out a lot of useful data.

  • @williamflowers9435
    @williamflowers9435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chassepot to Famas is worth every penny and you should be extremely proud of the finished product. I hope many more books are coming!!!

  • @deeptha1975
    @deeptha1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Johnson M1941 (which slightly predates the FG42) and M1944 LMGs also had the closed bolt - semi / open bolt auto feature

  • @CAPNMAC82
    @CAPNMAC82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Probably the only modern "machining" thing we can point to would be in digital heat controls for tempering and heat cycling metals. Not having to judge color by eyeball.

  • @forestcampbell8962
    @forestcampbell8962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice! I was just wondering yesterday when the next Q&A would go up.

  • @topdog4578
    @topdog4578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FN HAMR, is another one that fires open bolt and closed bolt.. ( Heat Adaptive Modular Rifle ). It's built on the scar platform..

    • @farmerbrown84
      @farmerbrown84 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I knew FN made one - I couldn't think of it...

  • @trebizond790
    @trebizond790 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That beginning was a little Troy McClure :p Little drink, then surprised by camera - 'Oh, hi, glad you could stop by. . . '

  • @cokoladkacz347
    @cokoladkacz347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just love his way to explain any problem he was given in question :O !!!!

  • @aaronrushton1
    @aaronrushton1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    39:48 Ian’s slip of the tongue got me imagining a giant mp38 on a tripod served by a crew

  • @charlesadams1721
    @charlesadams1721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree completely with you concerning your book and the production of an ebook. On a significant level, the concept of the author(s) intellectual property that had to be produced “by the sweat of your brow” and time and effort is a significant factor.
    As someone had used reference and technical books in various disciplines, what I’ve really wanted since Personal computers have been available is a searchable index on the computer on a easy to use program. Especially with a large book, to have the ability to search for a term or possibly a phrase and be informed via the program be what page numbers to access would really save time. (Remember, this was my idea developed bay in ancient times, like the late 1970’s and early 1980’s using computers like Data General minis, HP’s version of their technical personal computers and handhelds, and the later with IBM ‘s PC’’s)
    So when you mentioned the research adjuncts to your book made me you think you have a somewhat similar idea for a product.
    Hope all continues to be successful.

  • @necrophagus9
    @necrophagus9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice calamityware cup! My wife loves that stuff, I've purchased a lot of it. Great video as always.

  • @sailingmaster
    @sailingmaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't think it would be crazy to think at some point there won't be any more print copies of Chassepot to FAMAS and not enough incentive to print more. At that point, an ebook version would be prudent and still sell.

  • @johnmorgan1629
    @johnmorgan1629 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I believe, Matt Carricker was in the auction room when the Dragoon went up. No it wasn't him, that wouldn't have been a don't tell Mere, that would have been keep Mere away from me!

    • @TheWhoamaters
      @TheWhoamaters 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He sent Creepy Cooter and Lt. Dan instead

  • @TheOnlyNate115
    @TheOnlyNate115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not sure if its truely relavent to the channel bit there are 4 old german ww1 era "war ships" up for sale on ebay and i instantly thought theyd be a perfect addition on this channel as one of your great light hearted style videos

  • @MrPier101
    @MrPier101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    As for forgotten weapons I'd like to see in new production, number one on my list is the EM-2.
    Good rifle killed by politics.

    • @justinlance5239
      @justinlance5239 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me to as I always thought 280british was a awesome cartridge.

  • @diestormlie
    @diestormlie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    My understanding on the BESA was that here simply wasn't thought to be the time to convert it to metric and .303 before a war broke out. So they just carted the factory to England, set it up, and got to work.

    • @gunner678
      @gunner678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More or less actually.

    • @madseavets
      @madseavets 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gunner678 Convert it to metric? Don't you mean convert it FROM metric?

  • @gunner678
    @gunner678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BESA: We simply needed every bit of kit we had available so, the BESA stayed in service right through and it was a good gun. The Aussies of course used the vickers water cooled in their Sentinel cruiser tank.

  • @junichiroyamashita
    @junichiroyamashita 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know for sure,the forgotten weapon that i want is the volley rifle,but there are A LOT of good designs ideas in all the weapons we saw,something that would utilise them or make them viable would certainly have my money.

  • @konnigkratz
    @konnigkratz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To add on to the answer given about the BESA, it's the same answer for why the Sten was 9mm - if you are fighting a war and are initially losing/on the backfoot, it makes sense to make use of captured ammunition. Given the Italians in North Africa were generous enough to gift us brits with tanks, MG's, AA guns, spaghetti, etc free of charge (turn to camera: we shot them or captured it).

  • @trentongoering5060
    @trentongoering5060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant wait to get home from work and relax and watch this!

  • @ANonymous-bh1un
    @ANonymous-bh1un 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You no longer want the Burgess folding shotgun back in production?

  • @MrJ3
    @MrJ3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Completely reasonable to keep the book as a physical book. Big fan of that decision.

    • @cdawson198600
      @cdawson198600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr. J yes, I agree nothing beats a physical book or any other media.... it’s scary when books are becoming nostalgic and everything is going digital, one wrong move and poof an entire library gone.

  • @Kaboomf
    @Kaboomf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    On automatically dropping magazines: Ian is absolutely right in saying militaries don’t want magazines to drop uncontrollably. I’m a former Norwegian infantryman; our training really stressed the importance of retaining empty mags. Summertime the shooting range was a muddy swamp, wintertime it was several feet of powdery snow. Anything you dropped would immediately disappear, and you were only issued five rifle magazines. Loose one, and you had to pay for a replacement. Wartime magazine loss would have been even worse, as that adds to the resupply problem.

  • @stevenschumacher5566
    @stevenschumacher5566 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me, the most interesting "Forgotten Weapons" are those that might not have been very successful, but important lessons were learned from it for future designs. Regaurding the last question, I think the M-1 Garand is a perfect example. It's a well made gun, interesting, but one could never be successful making new ones for the price point of available used ones on the market.

  • @matthewspencer5086
    @matthewspencer5086 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The British Army was still adopting new loadings of 7.92x57mm ammuntion for the Besa gun in 1967ish, so I think there must have been more than a couple of thousand of them! (Wikipedia says more than 39,000 of the 7.92mm version and more than 3,000 of the 15mm version. The former number sounds about right to me, but I had thought that only about 800 armoured cars were made that mounted the 15mm. It is possible that some were mounted in pillboxes: I know that some naval .5" Vickers guns were. No point, really, having a pillbox that couldn't hurt a light tank or half-track.)
    The 15mm Besa was MUCH more powerful than the .50" BMG, and in those vehicles that carried it, it was really used as a belt-fed anti-tank rifle more than a machine gun, because even bolted to an armoured car it was difficult to control in automatic fire. (It was too big, really, to be a secondary weapon in a tank, so it was a primary weapon in some types of armoured car.) 15mm Besa rounds would penetrate 30mm of steel armour at a couple of hundred yards, which would have caused problems for the sorts of tank that the Germans might have been able to transport to invasion beaches in Southern England in 1940-1941. As a boy I did own a 15mm Besa round, but at that age was too ignorant to realise what it was, only that it was bigger than the puny .50" BMG and .5" Vickers rounds owned by schoolfriends.

    • @euroweasel1088
      @euroweasel1088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 15mm Besa was also used as the main gun of the Light tank Mk VIC. They saw quite a lot of service in North Africa in 1940 and 1941. The 15mm Besa was certainly more powerful than the .50" machine guns, but less powerful than the Soviet 14.5mm. In practice it proved to be marginal against Panzer II already in France. In NA it worked well against the Italian L3/35 (a.k.a. CV-35) tankettes, but nearly useless against the Italian medium tanks once they appeared there.

    • @madseavets
      @madseavets 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matthew Spencer
      There was also the Vickers Mk VIC light tank, but only about 130 of those were built. Pz III and IV had max 30mm armour in 1940..

    • @matthewspencer5086
      @matthewspencer5086 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madseavets Could the Germans realistically have landed PZ IV from the improvised landing craft they had in 1940-1941? I am remembering books about "Operation Sealion" which suggested that only their older, lighter tanks could have been landed at the time without a dock and a crane. At that time, dealing with what could actually be landed on an invasion beach was the only thing that mattered. The landing craft was not like the ones the allies used in 1944: it was a sort of barge with a wooden ramp to get the tank over the bows. Air Vice Marshall Park, who had taken part in the Gallipoli landings in WW1, reassured army commanders in his sector that a German Invasion would fail in 72 hours and politely asked them not to blow up his airfields at the first sign of a landing!

    • @madseavets
      @madseavets 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewspencer5086 They had submersible Panzer III and IV but they had problems landing them. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101II-MW-5674-45%2C_%C3%9Cbungen_mit_Panzer_III_f%C3%BCr_Unternehmen_Seel%C3%B6we.jpg
      The landing barges/ships weren't very sophisticated. Whatever thay landed could have been handled by 2 pdrs or 3 inch AA guns (which were being replaced by 3.7 inch and were more mobile) or any artillery piece.

  • @uallas5va
    @uallas5va 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You answered my question in the 42 min range. It was the placement of your jacket's pocket that led me to ask. Still enjoying the video.

  • @Hibernicus1968
    @Hibernicus1968 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the Burgess folding pump shotgun as desirable for reproduction. I'd certainly love to get one, and there aren't a lot of originals out there.

    • @michaelmacdonald334
      @michaelmacdonald334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He gave me heart palpitations when he said that they were also chambered in 45/70.
      Mmmmmmm 45/70.....

  • @ilmt
    @ilmt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder why you wouldn't at least mention again the ZH29 on the question which gun to pick when going into Spanish civil war. Especially, since you did talk about it earlier as being one of the first good ones, and it was available in 1936. (Yeah it did stick to my mind more since I'm Czech ;) )

  • @fatmanbravo6
    @fatmanbravo6 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What you said about eBooks was surprisingly moving.

  • @RealCadde
    @RealCadde 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The G3's charging handle is well known for taking a good portion of your skin off your hand if you slip while managing to get some part of your hand into the groove.
    And the G3 is also quite painful and damaging to thumbs you stick into the magazine well to check the chamber for rounds when you unload the weapon. Technically, you are supposed to stick your thumb through the well (so no mag is there) AND then your finger through the ejector port to really feel for a round in the chamber.
    I had a really hard time warranting sticking a finger in through that port in the field...

  • @KingusDingus
    @KingusDingus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Can someone remind me what that gun in the thumbnail is? I cannot remember it to save my life... Help would be appreciated.

    • @MongooseTacticool
      @MongooseTacticool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      BRNO

    • @MongooseTacticool
      @MongooseTacticool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      BRNO 7.5. MAC has a good video about it.

    • @jeeBisOkay
      @jeeBisOkay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The FK BRNO FP

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The FK BRNO Field Gun is a small caliber, high velocity Czech handgun that has a ballast weight in the front to attenuate recoil, so it covers at least three subjects brought up in this Q&A.

    • @camgumby1
      @camgumby1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glock 17

  • @samobispo1527
    @samobispo1527 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! But the advertisement with the single woman declining an invitation to go dancing in order to stay home, drink wine out of a dispenser box, eat, and watch TV, is hilarious. The only thing missing was several pet cats and a phone call from her mother asking when she was going to give mom some grandkids.

  • @CheshireTomcat68
    @CheshireTomcat68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Are you going to print a cheaper soft-cover version of your book?

  • @londonjolly9174
    @londonjolly9174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That's funny, most of the things I like about the ACR are in the lower (stock design, ambi controls, single piece fcg, magpul styling). I think that rifle, in it's Masada guise for 1500 msrp, would've been quite succesful. Oh well, I'm still hoping someone makes FMG-9s and PDRs.

    • @beargillium2369
      @beargillium2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So take the 1.4m approximately guns they already have and do a quick $1500 "upgrade" and it's only gonna cost us 2.1billion dollars 😂

  • @JDTN1985
    @JDTN1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In regards to lefty friendly pistols, if the mag release is not reversible make sure to shoot and handle the gun while wearing whatever gloves you might use throughout the year. Like Ian I got use to having the mag release on the left side of the gun but had to switch it the right side on my m&p since the extra padding from gloves would cause me to put just enough pressure on it to release the mag while shooting. Wouldn't happen every time, but still often enough that I had to change it.

  • @tafino
    @tafino 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Ian, I just saw your video. Nice, but WHY ARENT YOU USING A COASTER???
    -Love, Mom (Gun Mary?)

  • @marzcapone9939
    @marzcapone9939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A Forgotten Weapon I wish was reproduced is the H&K P7, even a modernization would be great.

    • @TheSuburban15
      @TheSuburban15 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A P7-M13 with magazines that don't cost a couple hundred dollars (in "good" used condition), would be great.

  • @vaclavholek4497
    @vaclavholek4497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    46:38 - Ian, why not a ZH-29? It's not the best semi-auto, but it was available in 1936, it's good enough, and it shoots standard 7.92x57mm.

  • @mfree80286
    @mfree80286 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So... we need to ship a large amount of CZ-75 pistols to the Finnish arms industry. (ref: 11:03)

    • @petrcivela9413
      @petrcivela9413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      CZ-75 can't get any better 😄

    • @Balvanix
      @Balvanix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@petrcivela9413 It can, it is called cz 75- shadow :-D

  • @willwallacetree
    @willwallacetree 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That mug needs a little saucer and a waffer thin biscuit with it, but otherwise entirely excellent as usual!

  • @jeffthebaptist3602
    @jeffthebaptist3602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Measuring group size: The issue is that there are multiple ways to do it. The US Army has a Test Operations Procedure (TOP) for Small Arms that includes accuracy and dispersion. There may also be an International TOP. Honestly, I think the methodology most of the gun mags use where they shoot 3 5-10 round groups at a relevant range comes from an old NRA guidance document. And that methodology is used because it is easy, not because it is good.
    The real issue is that using group size as a statistical measure is awful. It's a measurement of the extreme spread of the distribution which means it essentially just uses the two worst shots. If you want something better you could use mean radius. Even better would be to use the standard deviation of the round since the random weapon dispersion from most guns is normally distributed.

    • @FIREBRAND38
      @FIREBRAND38 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent comment!

  • @weaponizedemoticon1131
    @weaponizedemoticon1131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ian, would you please explain your cup some time? It looks interesting.

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      calamityware.com/products/calamityware-mug-1-things-could-be-worse

  • @ScoobieDoobieDoob
    @ScoobieDoobieDoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why pick the Winchester Model 1907 over the Remington Model 8? The Model 8 was chambered in .25 Remington (6.54x52mm) which is similar to .223 in ballistics and almost an intermediate round, but it was also chambered in much larger rounds if that's what you wanted. They also made high capacity magazines for it you could buy out of police catalogues, and a place in Mt. Clemens, Michigan could customize it to make the magazines removable. Collectors say that their work was of extremely high quality. So, you could essentially have a semi-auto rifle with a 15 round magazine, that had comparable ballistics to a modern .223. I honestly would probably pick that over anything until the Garand or STG-44, and depending on how it'd do in the field; I'd maybe pick it over a Garand and other full powered rifles.

  • @skywalker2133
    @skywalker2133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, Sig 550 is even here in switzerland expensiv. Exept if you keep your servicerifel.

  • @2009Berghof
    @2009Berghof 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only Brit BESA that I've seen in the USA is the one in the J.M. Davis Museum in Oklahoma. I tried to find a transferable one to buy for my British MKIV armored car-no luck. I did buy a parts kit and assembled a dummy for display only. It is one of the very least likely souvenir machine guns that any returning GI would bring back. It is one big heavy hunk of steel. The barrel alone is quite hefty and this is probably why they worked so well. Are you old enough to remember when all the BMG fans were converting to 8mm Mauser. At Knob Creek Paragon was selling cases of 8mm to the Browning fans. I recognized the wood cases. The ammo was WWII British BESA ammo in cardboard boxes. I am uncertain but I think the BESA will fit in that heavy Czech ZB53 tripod and tank mounting as used in the Czech 38 tank.

  • @TheSuburban15
    @TheSuburban15 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ". . . more powerful powders. . . "
    Power is determined mostly by burn rate, and somewhat by powder formulation. There is a pretty wide variety of burn rates and formulations available already. The trick to it, is not having a peak pressure that exceeds the maximum pressure that the shell case, chamber, and locking system can safely contain.
    It might be kinda interesting to see what a Smith & Wesson X-Frame could do with a high velocity small-bore cartridge.

  • @oloflarsson407
    @oloflarsson407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Ian might have forgotten the Suomi KP/-31 as the ideal personal firearm for the Spanish civil war. ISTR Ian and Karl lauding the Suomi and the Beretta M38 as the best SMG´s of the war at InRange.

  • @norwegianwiking
    @norwegianwiking 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we need a video on the BESA or the Vz. 37

  • @KaoVamp
    @KaoVamp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the ZH 29 as a gun to take into the Spanish Civil War. It would have been available and it fires what would have been a commonly available cartridge at the time. Being magazine fed it also feels like one of the most modern guns available in that period. Are there issues with it I forgot about? I admit it's been a while since I've seen your videos on it.

  • @huntercompton9650
    @huntercompton9650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Didn't the Johnson LMG shoot closed bolt semi and open bolt full auto?

  • @ditto1958
    @ditto1958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Mike’s Militaria is a good source for military uniforms. He also has a good YT channel called Mike B.

  • @brucebaxter6923
    @brucebaxter6923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i think the empty magazine thing is trying to say it drops out when the last round is chambered not locks open when the last round is fired

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      nirfz
      Well, that is the only reasonable place to use a pistol.
      Even if you are being paid to carry one, your employer really doesn’t want you to be shooting it.

  • @0000Sierra117
    @0000Sierra117 ปีที่แล้ว

    A reproduction STG in .300 blackout would be pretty fun and have easily loadable or purchasable ammo while keeping the "vibe" of 8mm kurz in my humble opinion

  • @Lindeman08
    @Lindeman08 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    11:03 Damn Ian. I really thought you would mention Sweden.

    • @Janduin45
      @Janduin45 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I kinda thought so aswell. :/

  • @DSlyde
    @DSlyde 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Doesn't the Johnson LMG do the full open, semi closed thing?

  • @armchairgman6568
    @armchairgman6568 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Howdy from the Quad Cities! Keep up the good work.

  • @chrisspencer6502
    @chrisspencer6502 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow thanks for dropping it early.

  • @aerofd
    @aerofd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always interesting and informative. Thanks.

  • @thescatologistcopromancer3936
    @thescatologistcopromancer3936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Calamityware

  • @tafino
    @tafino 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You just replaced my TED Talk for my ride to work today. Much more relevant info too :D

  • @cyruspalmer98
    @cyruspalmer98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Easier way to measure center to center is outside to inside

  • @rickey5353
    @rickey5353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2: 23 : And he spaketh to the masses while sipping from the cup of knowledge.

  • @theana86ar
    @theana86ar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    To be honest, i would rather have the ebook version, so that it won't get all oiled up at work, and also have some nice piece of french firearm knowledge with me where ever i go... and on piracy, what prevents somebody just to scan the book?

    • @mrb692
      @mrb692 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s a lot more work to scan a several hundred page book one page at a time than it is to crack the drm on an electronic copy or otherwise make a copy of it.

  • @thechilledonion9313
    @thechilledonion9313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is that a Christmas yucca ?
    More seriously, about the sig 550, even in switzerland the Sig 550-1 (semi-auto from factory) and the PE-90 (stg-90 modified in semi-auto when you've finished your military duty) are legally not the same. You need a regular permit for the first one and a special permit for the second because their lowers are slightly different.
    So, if you want to get a real 550 instead of a 556 without all the US forms and checks, get a sig 550-2 semi-auto rifle (the "-2" means optimized for regular NATO 5.56 rounds).

    • @williamhedrick7983
      @williamhedrick7983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like he said, you can now get SG550-2 in pistol form now but very limited supply and 90 day wait from SAN.

  • @scottm9605
    @scottm9605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh calamity ware. Good stuff.

  • @pdittrich
    @pdittrich 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Sport Systeme Dittrich is still producing Sturmgewehrs. And FG42s. And MP38s (you have a video on that one). And Volkssturm rifles because lol why not. Their website unfortunately states new pricing "will" be introduced in January 2019 and the catalog will be updated "shortly". Maybe. Some time. Best I recall, the prices for any of those were in the 3-5k range. Understandable considering they must be practically hand-building the rifles, but still thats a boatload of money.

  • @cymond
    @cymond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think he SHOULD release his books as ebooks, but wait a while after the paper copies sell out. Why? For the sake of preservation of information, and because there's no more money to be made after it's sold out, so there's nothing left to lose, either. (He discuss why second printings are a bad idea in a different Q&A)

  • @pdittrich
    @pdittrich 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    re: auto-ejection of the magazine, you don't need that, you won't loose any time from it. I was actually asked by a guy on my local range whether my AR15 DID in fact automatically drop the mag. It does not, he just didn't see my finger move to the mag catch.

  • @Uncommoner
    @Uncommoner 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like most statistical measures, i imagine the method of measuring group size depends on the story you're trying to tell. An infantryman or army concerned with hitting centre mass is happy with smallest circle, as long as the target is in that circle one round from a group will likely hit. A sniper whose life may depend on one shot, one kill accuracy will want as precise a statistical measure as possible, and thus use mean from centre and std deviation.

    • @FIREBRAND38
      @FIREBRAND38 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would think that but most folks can't understand any of it.

  • @guypierson5754
    @guypierson5754 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Necro comment cause never watched this at the time; when he got to the Spanish war gun question I was chanting Maquina Maquina then he finally said “a sub machine gun” and I was like yeeeeeeah! Cause at the time that would protect you but also give you social standing with the left. Being someone with a machine gun meant you were somebody important enough to have it so you must be worth following.

  • @henry06x
    @henry06x 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve often wondered what would be wrong with running your mag release on the “lefty” side as a righty. After purchasing a pistol that had the release on both sides I found myself using my index finger to release my mag far more often then my thumb. I swapped my M&P around and really liked releasing with my index finger more. Didn’t have to twist the pistol in my hand or anything. Ended up going back to std simply because I didn’t want to be use to it and then have to think about releasing the mag when i shot someone else’s pistol or my little single stack carry pistol that’s not reversible. In my mind it still would make more sense that way. That’s one thing everyone loves about the AR-15 platform and want every rifle to have.

  • @Isaaclichtenstein
    @Isaaclichtenstein 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for answering my question about guns in the Spanish Civil War! No Pasaran! ~Isaac

  • @mattsgrungy
    @mattsgrungy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Re: automatic mag ejection - I think one of the other things that Ian didn't cover that is another factor is that adding any feature like that probably adds weight to the weapon. As Ian noted there is no real military advantage and weight is a serious consideration for most militaries, especially for a sidearm that is (in most cases) not even the soldier's main weapon.
    It's just a side consideration on top of what Ian said but I just thought it was worth adding to the conversation.

    • @BatCaveOz
      @BatCaveOz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any added weight would be insignificant.

    • @mattsgrungy
      @mattsgrungy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BatCaveOz Yeah you're probably right TBH

  • @theana86ar
    @theana86ar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What happedened to the burgess folding shotgun? I recall you wishing it to be in modern production, and to be honest would get one meself...

  • @edi9892
    @edi9892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please make a video on felt weapon recoil. I still struggle to understand how the operation system impacts it.
    E.g.: G3 has more recoil than the FAL due to more mass moving, but MG42, Barret and things like AK101 and Vector rely on mass moving to reduce felt recoil.

    • @Throwback_
      @Throwback_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Total novice btw, but I believe guns like the ak101 rely on a separate counter weight that, while the bolt mechanism is moving, the counterweight does an equal and opposite movement to counter act the jolt of the bolt backwards. If I had to guess, in guns that don’t have this counterweight system (most) you only feel the bolt slam backwards, giving a rise to the barrel in addition to the explosive component

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Throwback_ I'm no expert, but I think that you're right.
      Guns create recoil from accelerating the projectile, blast, and mechanical movements within the gun.
      From what I understand, a locked bolt system should have the lowest recoil. The more mass is moved, the worse it gets, though it can soften the felt recoil as it extends the recoil so that it doesn't feel as sharp.
      I also understand that the FK and the Vector use additional recoil to get the barrel down, similar to how gas can be used in muzzle breaks and gas ports to reduce felt recoil. This seems to apply for many mass delayed systems, but I don't get why it applies for the Barret and not the G3.
      Now, the thing I really don't understand is how it works on a physical level with AK101: Yes, it balances out the recoil of the bolt slamming back, but you accelerate a mass forward in addition to the bullet, thus the recoil should get bigger. Regardless.

  • @thezaret639
    @thezaret639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i would love to try and shoot a G11

  • @redram5150
    @redram5150 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Come to learn, stay for the luscious locks

  • @TehNoobiness
    @TehNoobiness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my question is, what's that pistol in the thumbnail? it looks slick as hell

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the FK BRNO Field Gun. Shoots a proprietary round, the FK 7.5 mm which is basically necked down from a 10mm case. It's essentially a PCC in handgun form and the price tag is what'd you expect for the engineering needed to create a carbine in handgun form.

  • @michaelhorning6014
    @michaelhorning6014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jim's Ribs in Rock Island. Order the Bony Box

  • @stephenrichards2715
    @stephenrichards2715 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your next forgotten weapon could be the GWACS lower they are over 3 months behind on there gen3 release and have been radio silent for months.

  • @claytonmachine12
    @claytonmachine12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ian, the U.S. Army is starting to adopt 6.8 in limited use (SF and I think some Ranger units) with plans to do a full adoption.

    • @claytonmachine12
      @claytonmachine12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I should specify, while the Army has already announced adoption of the round, they have yet to actually develop the rifle.....................Yeah. So they're still working out the contracts for that part. Remember, if it makes sense, its not the Army.

  • @525halo
    @525halo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    with how firearms are designed today, is it possible to see the return of open bolt semi auto rifles/pistols/parts kits ect?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. ATF considers open bolt guns to be easily converted into machine guns by default.

  • @ringowunderlich2241
    @ringowunderlich2241 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question 49:50 : The Schwarzlose Model 1898 perhaps?

  • @jonbeck5945
    @jonbeck5945 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ian, when you get ahold of one, will you do a video on the Beretta PM12S and the Walther MPL? I don’t think I’ve seen videos on either of these from you and would love to hear your take on the history and what you think of actually shooting them.

    • @williestyle35
      @williestyle35 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He has done the MP 12 and the MPL in videos already.

  • @sammybarnes9511
    @sammybarnes9511 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally agree on the sturmgewehr 44.

  • @woesiohans
    @woesiohans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you're in the Quad Cities (Rock Island), you gotta go to Whitey's!