I read on how Milly Alcock who got the part to play this new princess/queen is a struggling actor living in her moms attic, and how she was in such disbelief that she was picked. She said she was waiting every day for them to change their mind and until she was there and filming she thought she'd be fired. Made me root for her a lot, and I think it plays well with her part as Rhaenyra is also having to undertake this big thing she wasn't ready for.
@@nickrubin7312 I am honestly a bit sad about this. She is absolutely killing that role and I am going to be sad that she only has a few episodes of screen time at best. I kind of wish they kept the kid actors for the entire first season. The young Alicent actress is also doing a great job.
This is basically the lot of 90 percent of the actors/actresses that go to Hollywood. You only hear about the success stories, not the ones who never get picked.
She was great in Upright, playing opposite of Tim Minchin, which can't be easy, especially if you’re that young. If you like her in this, maybe check out Upright, even if it’s a very different genre, it’s a great mini series.
Daemon Targaryen aka the Rogue Prince was my favorite character from the book, and WOW !!! Matt Smith really hit it out of the park with his portrayal of the character. I knew Matt would do well base on what I saw in the trailers, but lord his acting of the character has been perfection in my eyes.
@@Glenn036 That's awesome !! Now I'm just wondering how difficult it must've been for him to write fire & blood when we all know Gildayne was bias asf against Daemon 💯😂
Targaryens are not immune to fire. Nor is Daenerys an exception. They´re resistant to heat, like when Dany takes the bath in GOT ep 1 and the maid says it´s scolding hot. D&D fucked it up (somehow) and made Dany outright immune to fire when it was only a one time thing involving death magic.
It was a one time thing in the books. They didn't fuck up they decided to change it in the show. It wasn't them misunderstanding anything it was a choice. You can disagree with that choice but it's not factually wrong.
@@anotherhappylanding4746 Almost the whole damn family during the Tragedy of Summerhall, a few generations later. Also being fireproof would make the traditional Targaryen cremation problematic!
Technically, in jousting, it is not illegal to strike the horse of the opponent, but it is seen as deeply dishonorable. In case you couldn't tell however, Daemon Targaryan does not care if others view him as dishonorable.
It's not just that he doesn't care. He could have just gone for the horse's head and made it look more like an accident, would have easier and safer too. The way he did it, I think he wanted lord Hightower to see it was on purpose.
@@Lightning_Lance Oh absolutely. The two men detest each other and Daemon does it specifically to hurt and embarrass Otto Hightower. But that is my point. He doesn't care if it is viewed as a dishonorable act, so long as it has the intended effect on Otto.
I’ve been pregnant 4 times. 2 were C-sections 1 was EXTREMELY horrific The birth scene was easier for me to watch than Sansa being råped. Especially since that never happened to HER in the book, it happened to Jane Poole. D&D did things for shock value, this birth scene was carefully crafted and the midwives in this scene are actual Midwives that were there to consult on the scene and to make it all the more real. I appreciate and applaud Miguel and Ryan and everyone involved in this episode. Great reaction guys. ❤️
But this also shows the more realistic and original way of the world, where nature rules with survival of the fittest, compared to our world today, where that pretty much doesn’t exist anymore. In nature, if the man cannot make a woman pregnant, his genes are good enough to be passed along to future generations, and if a woman cannot give birth, she wasn’t strong enough, and therefore the child wasn’t strong enough. But an ingenius as the human body is, it makes no sense to me, why girls can get pregnant at such a young age, if the body isn’t at all ready for it. One of the few mistakes/weird things about human evolution. But anyway, they should’ve either knocked her out, and killed her right before they did the C section. I don’t know how this would affect the baby, how long it can survive after the mother is dead, but yeah, I can’t see why the mother had to be fully awake during it. And not saying we should go back to survival of the fittest, just saying that not passing the best genes along will prevent humanity from staying strong and evolving against future threats, either biological, militant, or mentally.
Henry I, King of England, was the youngest child of William the Conqueror. He (Henry) inherited the throne and the Duchy of Normandy from his older brother around 1100. Henry had one surviving legitimate child, Mathilde (also known as Maud), the widow of the Emperor (also named) Henry. She was just 14 when she was crowned Empress in Rome. Upon completing the coronations, she stayed in Italy to mind the Empire's Italian holdings while her husband, Emperor Henry, returned to Germany to provide the same service to the rest of the Empire. Unsurprisingly, neither Henry fathered a child upon her. Following Emperor Henry's death, King Henry called his daughter (now 23) to court in Normandy. Mathilde, now known as Empress Mathilde, was presented to King Henry's court and vassals as King Henry's successor. Everyone was required to provide oaths to accept and support Mathilde in her succession to the throne. The swearing of the oaths was less than popular among the nobility. Big Surprise! In order to strengthen Normandy's position to the south against France, Empress Mathilde was married off to Geoffrey, Comte d'Anjou. Upon King Henry's death in 1135, Mathilde's cousin Stephen, count of Blois (directly east of Anjou and south of Normandy), traveled to England and assumed the throne. A couple years later, Mathilde and her half brother Robert (born on the wrong side of the blanket) invaded England to take the throne that was promised her. This was the start of what would later be called "The Anarchies" that saw England torn to shreds by years of a dynastic struggle between two cousins, Empress Mathilde and King Stephen. Naturally, the situation led to various nobles trying enlarge their respective holdings, etc. When Stephen finally shuffled off this mortal coil around 1150, he was succeeded by Mathilde's eldest (unsurprisingly) named Henry. Normandy was held by Geoffrey of Anjou, Stephen had agreed to depriving his own son of his expected inheritance, and everyone was very confused because Stephen's wife and Queen was also named Mathilde. Really, I know you guys joke about having to keep track of all the names you encounter in WOT and GOT/House of Dragons... but try to keep the Henries and Mathildes straight in this little story is enough for me. Henry II (son of Empress Mathilde and Geoffrey of Anjou) has been described as one of the greatest kings in England's history. He was the first Angevin, aka Plantagenet, king and his direct descendants would hold the English for nearly 350 years, until the defeat of Richard III at the Bosworth Field at the hands of Henry (what else?) Tudor. Wonder where GRRM came up with the idea of a King trying to foist a daughter as his heir upon a pack of reluctant vassals? I think a reaction/analysis video on Mondays would be a good idea. However, do we not have a date for next Monday for Book Club? - sj
Claroos is right, there's no way the mother could live when the baby's in breach It was either let them both die, or try to extract the baby. There's no way to save the mother
@@abbyanderson2463 Not really, the mother and child is still linked. Too many drugs and it'll kill the child, hence why they said they already gave her the maximum they could.
@Arosa That doesn't really equate, pro-choice here but at that moment there's no argument that the baby is a baby. He's literally being delivered. But it's a moot point because now we have caesareans. To have it because a it could potentially endanger the mother's life would be like saying a woman should just be neutered just in case. To your point though science and medical progress, including caesareans was always impeded because the super religious types said that to meddle with birth was a sin. Many women died because they didn't allow research into it. I've always said that what would solve pretty much all of the abortion debate would be to further the scientific process of out of womb birth. Woman doesn't want to keep the child but the father does? Remove the fetus, put it in a tube birthing chamber. There. Done. Woman is afraid of how it's going to affect her body? Put it in a tube birthing chamber. Done. We'd be discussing "her" choice a lot less then, because whether a woman is ready for a child would receive the same response as when a man isn't ready for a child but he's forced to pay regardless if they just researched how to remove a fetus and incubate it in a chamber and not the woman. But that whole technology, although we can definitely do it with what we have nowadays, is again impeded by the religious folks saying it's "gods domain". God's choice would leave most of our population half blind, but we have glasses. Science is progress.
I genuinely don't understand why people think he chose the baby over his wife like there was any way she could survive with a dead baby inside of her 🤦🏽♀️
I appreciated your emphasis on the birth scene in your discussion. And I noticed that when they first began the birth scene you said this is where the real battle is. I think that was such an important aspect of this first episode. Queen Aemma tells Rhaenyra that the birthing bed is a woman’s battlefield in the scene they had between the two of them. And the back-and-forth between the joust and the birthing scene was contrasting the two scenarios which both had such violent results in this instance, and reinforced what the queen had told her daughter. I also really liked how you appreciated the use of the prophecy in connecting the story with Game of Thrones. I agree that they are doing it in a classy manner.
You mentioned about dragon extinction, actually this is the era where the house is at the height of its power, where dragons flew around. And this show is all about why dragons became extinct.
The maester says you can save the baby or loose them both. If they give her enough milk of the poppy to kill the baby, how are they gonna get the baby out without killing her. They had already said that they could get the baby out cause it was sideways. I think our modern sensibilities makes us think that they have that option to save either one.
i got so emotional during that last scene. the way they said about how Aegon foresaw the long night and he called it a song of ice (Jon) and fire (Daenerys). they were azor ahai from the beginning. a spit on D&D's face. also rhaenyra's nomination... the way i imagined Dany's 🥺
@@Nihilanth It wasn't. GRRM literally called the fandom toxic after the ending. And Miguel and Condal are co showrunners, they both matter and they both respect D&D.
I had doubts before the release but after watching the premiere, I'm totally hyped for more. This show has so much potential with the direct support from GRRM himself.
Thw Rogue Prince is my second favourite character during this time with the Queen Who Never Was taking the first spot. Really hyped to see her on screen ...
I've seen a read going round regarding the dream which I like: It's not about the show, that diverged from the plan. It's about the books where that's absolutely still on the cards. HotD low-key not styling itself as a game of thrones prequel, it's an ASOIAF prequel
Jon and Dany were the song of ice and fire. They united their armies against the night king which led to Arya killing him with the same dagger that carries the prophecy. Even though the prophecy wasn’t passed down to Aegon (Jon) and Daenerys they still fulfilled it.
@@IndigotheSirens it literally says that a targeryen must be seated on he iron Throne and that they must unite the seven kingdoms but they only had the northern army, unsullied and dothraki
To clarify the rules of jousting are defined by those holding the joust, and targeting the steed is rarely considered off limits, Daemon doing so in a way that did not just kill the horse is actually more merciful than just targeting its throat. Also an additional stage of combat on foot was not uncommon.
They stated during the scene that they had given the wife a large portion of Milk of the Poppy already and giving her any more drugs would put the babies life at risk. Even in modern times, you cannot knock the woman out without causing severe risk to both lives, or they would do this regularly. The Maester is also stating that the "choice" is either 1. The baby might survive or 2. The wife and baby both die. She was "breaching", the baby was turned sideways. Women can and do die from that even today, and also lose the child in the process. The wife was almost certainly going to die regardless.
Breech is when the baby is coming out feet first not head first. They say he could “leave it to the gods“ which means just let her labor and see what happens. He should have ya know.. maybe ASK his wife what SHE wants to do. But he doesn’t. He’s selfish. Because he’s king. Because he’s a man and needs a male heir. So he makes a decision without asking her and it will haunt him and slowly eat away at him for the rest of his life. It wasn’t HIS choice to make.
@@Persephone_Personified Sadly, as King, it was Viserys' choice to make; and he chose as a king and not as Aemma's loving husband, because he wanted a male heir and needed a male heir to put between the realm and his brother Daemon (who would not have made a good king).
min 28:55 No, haha It was either save the baby or loose them both. So the mother was going to die anyway as the baby was stuck... so the only way out for the baby is cutting the mother open and if you cut her, then she dies guaranteed. If you dont do anything, they both die haha.
28:22 . they said that Queen Aemma will die either way, either you save the child and let the mother die or either they both die. The mother could never be saved
It's important to remember that other than highborn houses, life expectancy in medieval times and GoT sort of things was short. So while it's only been 172 years, that's many generations. So much quicker for things such as the ice king, dragons and etc to fall into legend or myth.
That gets overestimated, the average was so low mainly from infant mortality. Survive to adulthood and the average person could expect a similar lifetime as we do. Still somewhat less, but they didn't drop dead at thirty.
@@harsh_1910 A generation just means a new bunch of children has grown up enough to start having their own children... That's 160 years or so for eight generations.
@@Ashwulf you do realize that everyone was dead right every single one except aemon and the youngest generation, so if they weren't then your point would be more valid
Hey I know I'm late to comment on this video. I just watched it this weekend. I just wanted to say the labor scene is the most relatable thing I have ever seen on television. My wife had complications at the end of her labor resulting in both her and my son ending up in the ICU. They are both well now but It was the scariest moment of my life. Luckily the staff was amazing and had everything under control. But holy shit did that give me PTSD moments. Hospitals are amazing nowadays.
@ nona Grey I guess you meant Summerhall, not Harrenhal. At Summerhall many Targaryens have died during a huge fire. In addition, many of them have died from dragon fire.
For me, it feels like the dream being passed exclusively to the heir, and possibly getting lost because of later succession crisis, is the cause for so many of the events in ASOIAF/GOT. The Targaryens eventually losing their dragons over the centuries feeds into Rhaenyra's point about them being just like everyone else without them. They lost their real power, messy successions lost the prophecy, and perhaps Rhaegar discovering it again, but not fully understanding it, led him to do something as stupid as taking Lyanna Stark, igniting a war. Maybe dragon dreams about this prophecy drove Aerys mad.
Aerys might have been predisposed to mental instability; but what tipped him over the edge was being kidnapped by a rebellious house and being held captive by them for months and subjected to close confinement and torture (rescued by Ser Barristan Selmy). After that, he grew obviously paranoid and crazy.
The book this was based on had many issues with births and various Targaryen children. It’s a different take on the world. I think they tried to show the difficulties in trying to get heirs, more so than GOT stories. The fact that the senseless tournament fighting was happening at the same time and that people were more shocked with the birth scene really tells you they hit the mark.
Yes there will be a timejump forward. Olivia Cook plays adult Alicent and Emma d'Arcy plays adult Rhaenyra. Also, the mother would most probably die either way. The choice was either mother and baby both die, or they could try to save the baby and hope the mother doesn't bleed out (but she most definitely would).
I love that he's equating cersei to this ancient magical threat to humanity lmao like, the night king and homegirl cersei are on the same level jfjdhf anyway, aegon's dream is canon (aka from Martin himself), but the part about it being passed on to each heir is show only
Gotta say to you guys, theres a million and one GOT reaction channels and u both are in my top 2! Thank you for knowing what you're talking about, and not boring the hell out of me! Gonna be an amazing season!!!!
She was already maxed on how much milk of the poppy they could give her without killing her or the baby think of medival times and they didnt have anesthesia
16:31 “game of thrones never went that far” umm sorry 😭?? Because last time i checked, the Red Wedding is still the most traumatic scene i had ever watch on TV
In jousting, a rider who has been knocked off their horse is allowed to invoke hand to hand combat. But there is a risk, either they yield, or die. So it could be literally a fight to the death. Many chose death over yielding to their opponent.
For me Shireen's death in GOT is the hardest/worst thing in the series. I have watched this birth scene many times and although it is tough, I can watch it. I've only watched Shireen's death once and won't watch it again. The prophecy was about a danger coming from the north and was obviously referring to the white walkers (not Cersei). It's more than likely that the Mad King knew about it and so did Rhaegar, but both died during Robert's Rebellion. Khaleesi never knew of any prophecy, Arya killed the Knight King, not a Targaryen. And Cersei was sitting on the Iron Throne when the white walkers were defeated. The prophecy was not accurate at all. Although Jon and Daenerys played a role, a Targaryen did not fulfill the prophecy.
Totally agree with loving every season of GoT even the final season because the worse season of GoT is better than most shows best season! HoTD is just continuing the tradition of greatness 👏👏
I hope they explain how Sam started a book with the same name at the end of season 8. The wise choice is to forget about that season altogether or use the money from this show to redo that season a few years from now.
The handed down info about ASOIF was lost to time. Dany did know anything about this prophecy! She didn't believe in White walkers...she had to be convinced by John. She was never the heir...she didnt have a chance to learn. Visereys may have known... her brother...but I doubt it. It was a clever way to tie it together...I'm betting it's a GRRM gem!
the only thing that makes me doubt it coming from GRRM just a little bit is that I always assumed it was called "SONG of Ice and Fire" because Raegar played music and he came up with that.
In my opinion the dream was about JON I mean he was the leader who warned everyone about the night king and his army, so he was the mind behind everything, a real targaryen, literally Aegon. A son(g) of ice and fire.
Thanks for a great reaction video, and I liked the outro best. I think so far your attitude going into HotD was the most positive, or at least the most open/least biased I've seen, which made for a better experience to me. I'm looking forward to both Episode 2 and your reaction.
I'd like your definition of spoilers for this show. Even if you haven't read Fire and Blood a lot of the information in this series is pretty common knowledge if you have read through Dance with Dragons. They even had an animated short almost 10 years ago from the show where Viserys tells this entire story as bonus content. But all the same I don't want to ruin anything you may have forgotten or not paid attention to
The plural of Westerosi is Westerosi Targaryens are heat resistant, not fireproof - unless they are in the midst of performing some powerful magic, like Dany when she hatched her dragons. All other instances were fabrications of the original show, while this show seems to veer much closer to the source material. Several Targaryens have died by fire. In fact, it's kind of a theme. Blood and Fire.
OK I kind of love that the guy I don’t know your name so I apologize had tears in his eyes at the funeral. I was a little surprised that you didn’t however got to give props to your man for having emotions that was kind of nice to see.
Viserys was told by the maester that he could save the baby or the baby and Aemma would both die. In Fire and Blood, this is what happened to Queen Alyssa, the daughter-in-law of Aegon the Conqueror. After his son, her husband King Aenys died and after they dealt with Maegor the Cruel, Alyssa remarried Rogar Baratheon. She’d had five kids with her King, Rhaena, Aegon, Viserys, Jaehaerys and Alyssane but ended up pregnant by Rogar in her forties. She had a son, Boremund then ended up pregnant again. The maester at Storm’s End told Jaehaerys and Alyssane the exact same thing this maester did, and Rogar told the maester to save the baby. Jocelyn was born weak, but she did survive…and is the mother of Princess Rhaenys, the granddaughter who was passed over at the very beginning. Jocelyn married Jaehaerys’ son, Aemon, and Rhaenys was their only child. That is why she called the Baratheon guy “cousin”, because he IS her cousin.
I'm sorry if i'm being too forward or weird in a sense but she is GORGEOUS i just have to say it. I can't stop looking at her she looks like a superhero and she reminds me a lot of jean grey. Ps. I'm gay but i really needed to appreciate her beauty.
I think Dany doesn’t know the prophecy. Aerys would’ve only told Rhaegar (as the heir), who then dies, and Viserys is not with Aerys in Kings Landing so there’s no chance for him to learn it before the king is killed by Jaime. Also the dagger King Viserys has on his belt looks familiar 😉
..and to think there were some people complaining that there wouldn't be as much violence/sex as GoT. That birth scene was brutal. One hell of a first episode lol
Okay follow me on this, Aegon had a vision of the winter coming via a dream prophecy as the king said, so Aegon didn’t just conquer he viewed his actions as being for the greater good. Assuming that Daenerys was also aware of this maybe her villain arc was also from her perspective as being for the greater good to save mankind. That detail was not in the book either it was something the author revealed to the cast as being an untold part of the story. This kind of changes how I see season 8 and makes me understand it a little better.
Very great reaction and analysis, and yes, as we get further into the season, I would like to see another video with further analysis and commentary about themes and characters, and I'd like to see more comparisons between this series and the original.
HBO don't use post credits as Marvel. But after every new episode of an original series they show scenes of the next episode. Only in the release not in the reruns. That's why is important to watch in the release.
I got into the books because of the show, in fact I was a straight HBO fan boy back in the Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood days. I used to tell people HBO wasn't television it was an experience.. which was a commercial they had, but I agreed whole heartily and wanted to do my part to spread the message... as well as that HBO had made Sundays sacred for me... I mean, really I'd argue all the great television we get today is because of HBO, they were the first to do shortened seasons with much more quality put into them as apposed to like 30 episode seasons with "TV production" quality. We forget how television used to be because everyone has copied HBO's format for television, who were doing it for decades before anyone else was and I would still argue do it better than anyone else. Well, maybe that's no longer fair to say since they haven't had the best show on television since season 7 of GOT.. what I will say is while their ceiling might not be higher than everyone else's anymore, I'd still argue their floor definitely still is... They're still the one network I assume anything they make will be of at least a certain quality, even if a different network has a show or two better than anything HBO currently has. Anyway, sorry for the long set up but hopefully that conveys how big an HBO fan I was long before and during GOT, which I still consider the first six or seven seasons to be the best television ever! That's saying something since Ive always had HBO and seen everything they've done, like The Sopranos.. and including The Wire... which I never thought a show would equal! I had never heard of the books until the show, and began reading A Clash of Kings (second book) following the first season since waiting a year to find out if Arya and Sansa we're going to be okay following Ned's beheading felt way to long to bear! Anyway, that's how much I loved the show, which everything in the show came from the books up until the still not written Winds of Winter. The best seasons of the show by far are the ones written by Martin, but more than that the books are just so much richer than the show is. And as I said, the first seven seasons were my favorite television show ever, certainly the first six.. but books filled with as much great shit as the song of ice and fire books are you just can't include it all into a television show... I get his style of writing being hard to follow, that's true, but as you get a bit more accustomed to it I promise the books are so much richer, and that as great as the show is the books are even greater!
Exactly right Claroos! The night king IS the real danger. Cersei is not. That’s the entire point of the books. I mean Cersei isn’t even close to maegor the cruel or the mad king… so her rule isn’t even that bad. But the story is about how all these lords are focusing on the wrong thing (the iron throne) while literal ice zombies could literally kill them all. And the prophecy WASNT fulfilled because of the order of events, which is why season 8 just doesn’t even exist. It’s not a thing. It makes no sense… never mind all the other prophecy’s and arcs that were unfulfilled.
I have a few thoughts based on this episode. I haven't read *Fire and Blood* yet, but I'm aware of a fair amount of the history going into this from reading the main series. 1. I highly suspect that the tourney listings are bits of foreshadowing toward how the Dance of the Dragons will play out. We have certain houses jousting against each other, and other characters "offering their favor" (aka forming alliances). I suspect that if we compare each joust to future conflicts that some of them at least will line up with actual conflicts. It felt very Ari Aster of them to display a microcosm of the larger conflict and secretly reveal the fates and alliances of most characters right off the bat. 2. Super tinfoil theory: someone is poisoning the king. Most of the kings that sat on the Iron Throne ended up cutting themselves on it, and GRRM uses this as a method to show whether or not a ruler is worthy of sitting on it. The Mad King ended up being called "King Scab" because he got cut so much. King Viserys gets nicked by it during the episode, which kind of suggests that he's slightly unfit for rule too. However, the twist here is that he seems to have a festering wound that can't be healed, and he blames it on the throne cutting him. That immediately caught my attention. What if someone is "treating" the throne with a poison or a disease, knowing full well that the king keeps getting jabbed by it and that no one but the king has a rightful reason to ever touch it? Wouldn't that be the perfect means of royal assassination? Death by a thousand paper cuts, and people will only suspect the wine or the food. We saw Prince Daemon sitting on it early in the episode, which would give him opportunity, but poison is out of character for the butchery he displayed later on. He could be an easy patsy, though. We also have Grand Maester Mellos, who has access to various diseases and poisons (including Grayscale, which causes the same pus as that of the wound). There's even a handsome Dornish knight named Ser Criston Cole, and what did the Dornish resort to time and again on Game of Thrones? Poison. Obviously, this is all super tinfoil right now since there's only been a few scant clues, and we'll see where things lead in the next few episodes, but I found it interesting that when King Viserys greets Rhaenyra in the crypts before naming her his heir, he says that "the Iron Throne is the most dangerous seat in the realm." This sort of scripting may well be very prophetic (like the clues for Jon's parentage) if we rewatch this episode later on with keener eyes. 3. The death of an Arryn (in this case, Aemma) seems to be the impetus for yet another civil war. How fitting. 4. The dagger that King Viserys gifts to Rhaenyra in the crypts is the same dagger that Arya uses to kill the Night King at the end of Game of Thrones. Although it's not passed down in the traditional way after Joffrey has it used in the attempted murder of Bran, it still manages to get into the hands of the person that truly needed it. At least the show version... lol!
An important thing about Daemon's character is that he is a psychopath. Literally. He doesn't care what people think of him, he doesn't care about anyone but himself and his own power. He manipulates, deceives, and anything else he needs to do. The whole scene with the mutilations was him getting known criminals, and then carrying out brutal sentences. Because he wanted to show he was strong, to his brother's weakness. At the Joust, he hates Otto Hightower, so he cheats to unhorse the Hightower rider, then asks Alicent for her favour, so she either rejects the Prince, or he gets to humiliate Hightower ever further.
Daemon in the books ISNT a psychopath BUT he wants people to think he is. He loves his brother more than he wanted the Iron Throne. Or else he'd go full Maegor and kill Viserys long ago
Where they really/confirmed criminals? To me, it just looked like they went wild and grabbed whoever was on their way that night and gave them labels and punishments to those labels.
@@arosa_mg Well, I suppose it depends on if you believe what Daemon said about the state of Kings Landing. They definitely were grabbing specific people, as no-one in the main courtyard was grabbed when they left, and those were some specific crimes being named. But I can easily see it being as you said, but we do know Kings Landing is more than a bit of a boiling mess of crime and poverty at times.
@@archmaester6594 yeah I also feel that way. He can kill his brother if he really wanted the throne but even Matt Smith said Daemon seemed like didn't want the throne that much, he described Daemon as agent of chaos , doesn't feel like full psychopath, also in his opinion Daemon's actually more a family oriented guy (maybe based on the adaptation script he got to act).
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They're not cousins, he is Rhaenyra's uncle.
Even worse
@@visionentertainment8006 They are the Targs, if you have a problem with that, watch a Disney show.
Yes, but they're also 1st Cousins Once-Removed (the parents of Viserys and Daemon were siblings to each other).
That's not better lol
@@supernovaskies5044 eh, they gotta keep bloodlines pure to control dragons
I read on how Milly Alcock who got the part to play this new princess/queen is a struggling actor living in her moms attic, and how she was in such disbelief that she was picked. She said she was waiting every day for them to change their mind and until she was there and filming she thought she'd be fired. Made me root for her a lot, and I think it plays well with her part as Rhaenyra is also having to undertake this big thing she wasn't ready for.
Spoilers the show basically a civil war Rhaenyra and Alicent who becomes the king’s second wife for her first to the king’s successor when he died.
Also spoilers, Milly Alcock only plays young Rhaenyra
@@nickrubin7312 I am honestly a bit sad about this. She is absolutely killing that role and I am going to be sad that she only has a few episodes of screen time at best. I kind of wish they kept the kid actors for the entire first season. The young Alicent actress is also doing a great job.
This is basically the lot of 90 percent of the actors/actresses that go to Hollywood. You only hear about the success stories, not the ones who never get picked.
She was great in Upright, playing opposite of Tim Minchin, which can't be easy, especially if you’re that young. If you like her in this, maybe check out Upright, even if it’s a very different genre, it’s a great mini series.
Daemon Targaryen aka the Rogue Prince was my favorite character from the book, and WOW !!! Matt Smith really hit it out of the park with his portrayal of the character. I knew Matt would do well base on what I saw in the trailers, but lord his acting of the character has been perfection in my eyes.
It's also George R.R. Martin favorite.
@@Glenn036 That's awesome !! Now I'm just wondering how difficult it must've been for him to write fire & blood when we all know Gildayne was bias asf against Daemon 💯😂
Really hoping he'll be the best character in the show too
Cool take. I was thinking that the Targaryen that "needed to be on the throne" was John, but you're right, it was both of them.
when ı read the book in the begining ı hated him after that ı keep read book and he become my fav character in the entire universe
Targaryens are not immune to fire. Nor is Daenerys an exception. They´re resistant to heat, like when Dany takes the bath in GOT ep 1 and the maid says it´s scolding hot. D&D fucked it up (somehow) and made Dany outright immune to fire when it was only a one time thing involving death magic.
It was a one time thing in the books. They didn't fuck up they decided to change it in the show. It wasn't them misunderstanding anything it was a choice. You can disagree with that choice but it's not factually wrong.
Yeah I was about to say plenty of targaryens have burned to death
Wasn’t she also engulfed by fire in Mereen, when Drogon comes to her rescue in the fighting pit, and her hair is burnt off yet again?
@@MA90211 I interpreted it as more being singed but not directly burned.
@@anotherhappylanding4746 Almost the whole damn family during the Tragedy of Summerhall, a few generations later.
Also being fireproof would make the traditional Targaryen cremation problematic!
Technically, in jousting, it is not illegal to strike the horse of the opponent, but it is seen as deeply dishonorable. In case you couldn't tell however, Daemon Targaryan does not care if others view him as dishonorable.
It's not just that he doesn't care. He could have just gone for the horse's head and made it look more like an accident, would have easier and safer too. The way he did it, I think he wanted lord Hightower to see it was on purpose.
@@Lightning_Lance Oh absolutely. The two men detest each other and Daemon does it specifically to hurt and embarrass Otto Hightower. But that is my point. He doesn't care if it is viewed as a dishonorable act, so long as it has the intended effect on Otto.
I look at it as the early days of Jousting.... sort of like how The UFC looks a lot different from the early days
When she said, “I love GOT. All 7 season of it” 🤣🤣🤣 what a roast 🔥🔥🔥
"All 5 seasons" would have been even roastier.
@@Vampagan what do you mean? season 6 was one of the bests!
@@PurpleAstronut I loved all eight seasons. But after season 5, they went their own way from George's template.
@@Vampagan it should be more like "all four seasons"
@@harsh_1910 Oh yeah? How abt 4 episodes?😂😂😂
I’ve been pregnant 4 times.
2 were C-sections
1 was EXTREMELY horrific
The birth scene was easier for me to watch than Sansa being råped. Especially since that never happened to HER in the book, it happened to Jane Poole. D&D did things for shock value, this birth scene was carefully crafted and the midwives in this scene are actual Midwives that were there to consult on the scene and to make it all the more real. I appreciate and applaud Miguel and Ryan and everyone involved in this episode.
Great reaction guys. ❤️
But this also shows the more realistic and original way of the world, where nature rules with survival of the fittest, compared to our world today, where that pretty much doesn’t exist anymore. In nature, if the man cannot make a woman pregnant, his genes are good enough to be passed along to future generations, and if a woman cannot give birth, she wasn’t strong enough, and therefore the child wasn’t strong enough. But an ingenius as the human body is, it makes no sense to me, why girls can get pregnant at such a young age, if the body isn’t at all ready for it. One of the few mistakes/weird things about human evolution. But anyway, they should’ve either knocked her out, and killed her right before they did the C section. I don’t know how this would affect the baby, how long it can survive after the mother is dead, but yeah, I can’t see why the mother had to be fully awake during it. And not saying we should go back to survival of the fittest, just saying that not passing the best genes along will prevent humanity from staying strong and evolving against future threats, either biological, militant, or mentally.
10:56 her facial expression seeing Daemon in his dragon armor is the best!!!!! Is basically how every fan thought as well!!!!!!
Henry I, King of England, was the youngest child of William the Conqueror. He (Henry) inherited the throne and the Duchy of Normandy from his older brother around 1100. Henry had one surviving legitimate child, Mathilde (also known as Maud), the widow of the Emperor (also named) Henry. She was just 14 when she was crowned Empress in Rome. Upon completing the coronations, she stayed in Italy to mind the Empire's Italian holdings while her husband, Emperor Henry, returned to Germany to provide the same service to the rest of the Empire. Unsurprisingly, neither Henry fathered a child upon her. Following Emperor Henry's death, King Henry called his daughter (now 23) to court in Normandy.
Mathilde, now known as Empress Mathilde, was presented to King Henry's court and vassals as King Henry's successor. Everyone was required to provide oaths to accept and support Mathilde in her succession to the throne. The swearing of the oaths was less than popular among the nobility. Big Surprise! In order to strengthen Normandy's position to the south against France, Empress Mathilde was married off to Geoffrey, Comte d'Anjou. Upon King Henry's death in 1135, Mathilde's cousin Stephen, count of Blois (directly east of Anjou and south of Normandy), traveled to England and assumed the throne. A couple years later, Mathilde and her half brother Robert (born on the wrong side of the blanket) invaded England to take the throne that was promised her. This was the start of what would later be called "The Anarchies" that saw England torn to shreds by years of a dynastic struggle between two cousins, Empress Mathilde and King Stephen. Naturally, the situation led to various nobles trying enlarge their respective holdings, etc. When Stephen finally shuffled off this mortal coil around 1150, he was succeeded by Mathilde's eldest (unsurprisingly) named Henry. Normandy was held by Geoffrey of Anjou, Stephen had agreed to depriving his own son of his expected inheritance, and everyone was very confused because Stephen's wife and Queen was also named Mathilde. Really, I know you guys joke about having to keep track of all the names you encounter in WOT and GOT/House of Dragons... but try to keep the Henries and Mathildes straight in this little story is enough for me. Henry II (son of Empress Mathilde and Geoffrey of Anjou) has been described as one of the greatest kings in England's history. He was the first Angevin, aka Plantagenet, king and his direct descendants would hold the English for nearly 350 years, until the defeat of Richard III at the Bosworth Field at the hands of Henry (what else?) Tudor.
Wonder where GRRM came up with the idea of a King trying to foist a daughter as his heir upon a pack of reluctant vassals?
I think a reaction/analysis video on Mondays would be a good idea. However, do we not have a date for next Monday for Book Club?
- sj
Claroos is right, there's no way the mother could live when the baby's in breach
It was either let them both die, or try to extract the baby.
There's no way to save the mother
true but they could’ve at least knocked her out, or given her milk of the poppy
@@abbyanderson2463 Not really, the mother and child is still linked. Too many drugs and it'll kill the child, hence why they said they already gave her the maximum they could.
@@abbyanderson2463 The maester had said the had already given the Queen as much milk of the poppy as they dared for the baby's health.
There is no way to save the mother. The baby, even dead, is still in the womb and needs to come out somehow. That is why abortion is health care.
@Arosa That doesn't really equate, pro-choice here but at that moment there's no argument that the baby is a baby. He's literally being delivered. But it's a moot point because now we have caesareans. To have it because a it could potentially endanger the mother's life would be like saying a woman should just be neutered just in case.
To your point though science and medical progress, including caesareans was always impeded because the super religious types said that to meddle with birth was a sin. Many women died because they didn't allow research into it.
I've always said that what would solve pretty much all of the abortion debate would be to further the scientific process of out of womb birth. Woman doesn't want to keep the child but the father does? Remove the fetus, put it in a tube birthing chamber. There. Done. Woman is afraid of how it's going to affect her body? Put it in a tube birthing chamber. Done. We'd be discussing "her" choice a lot less then, because whether a woman is ready for a child would receive the same response as when a man isn't ready for a child but he's forced to pay regardless if they just researched how to remove a fetus and incubate it in a chamber and not the woman.
But that whole technology, although we can definitely do it with what we have nowadays, is again impeded by the religious folks saying it's "gods domain".
God's choice would leave most of our population half blind, but we have glasses. Science is progress.
How could “sacrifice one or lose both” be taken any other way? Back then, there wasn’t really any way they could kill the baby and save Aemma
I genuinely don't understand why people think he chose the baby over his wife like there was any way she could survive with a dead baby inside of her 🤦🏽♀️
@@joly457 torture to your close one or anyone to that extent is NEVER worth it, not to save anyones life but thats just me
I appreciated your emphasis on the birth scene in your discussion. And I noticed that when they first began the birth scene you said this is where the real battle is. I think that was such an important aspect of this first episode. Queen Aemma tells Rhaenyra that the birthing bed is a woman’s battlefield in the scene they had between the two of them. And the back-and-forth between the joust and the birthing scene was contrasting the two scenarios which both had such violent results in this instance, and reinforced what the queen had told her daughter. I also really liked how you appreciated the use of the prophecy in connecting the story with Game of Thrones. I agree that they are doing it in a classy manner.
Claroos, bless you for comforting your husband during this trying time.
She can always be counted on for a good arm pat when I cry
You mentioned about dragon extinction, actually this is the era where the house is at the height of its power, where dragons flew around. And this show is all about why dragons became extinct.
The maester says you can save the baby or loose them both. If they give her enough milk of the poppy to kill the baby, how are they gonna get the baby out without killing her. They had already said that they could get the baby out cause it was sideways. I think our modern sensibilities makes us think that they have that option to save either one.
i got so emotional during that last scene. the way they said about how Aegon foresaw the long night and he called it a song of ice (Jon) and fire (Daenerys). they were azor ahai from the beginning. a spit on D&D's face. also rhaenyra's nomination... the way i imagined Dany's 🥺
Yep, many emotional scenes. Love it.
That line hit so hard! I can’t wait for more Rhaenyra!
It wasnt to spit on D&D face lol. Miguel who is a showrunner defends the last season actually.
@@ianvera4299 It was. George is involved in the show and he was the one who told them about the prophecy. also, Ryan is the only one that matters
@@Nihilanth It wasn't. GRRM literally called the fandom toxic after the ending. And Miguel and Condal are co showrunners, they both matter and they both respect D&D.
I had doubts before the release but after watching the premiere, I'm totally hyped for more. This show has so much potential with the direct support from GRRM himself.
Too bad it takes his attention away from finishing the damn WINDS OF WINTER! WE WANT THE DAMN BOOK GEORGE! IT'S BEEN 11 YEARS!
Thw Rogue Prince is my second favourite character during this time with the Queen Who Never Was taking the first spot.
Really hyped to see her on screen
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Rhaenys is a badass
Clarus, Lysa wasnt born a Vale woman, she was a Tully from the Riverlands first, but good catch. ^^
She’s salty that she got this wrong hahaha
@@NerdyNightly haha she should not worry! Your knowledge of Westeros, both of you, is undeniable! 😉
I've seen a read going round regarding the dream which I like: It's not about the show, that diverged from the plan. It's about the books where that's absolutely still on the cards. HotD low-key not styling itself as a game of thrones prequel, it's an ASOIAF prequel
Jon and Dany were the song of ice and fire. They united their armies against the night king which led to Arya killing him with the same dagger that carries the prophecy. Even though the prophecy wasn’t passed down to Aegon (Jon) and Daenerys they still fulfilled it.
@@IndigotheSirens it literally says that a targeryen must be seated on he iron Throne and that they must unite the seven kingdoms but they only had the northern army, unsullied and dothraki
To clarify the rules of jousting are defined by those holding the joust, and targeting the steed is rarely considered off limits, Daemon doing so in a way that did not just kill the horse is actually more merciful than just targeting its throat. Also an additional stage of combat on foot was not uncommon.
They stated during the scene that they had given the wife a large portion of Milk of the Poppy already and giving her any more drugs would put the babies life at risk. Even in modern times, you cannot knock the woman out without causing severe risk to both lives, or they would do this regularly. The Maester is also stating that the "choice" is either 1. The baby might survive or 2. The wife and baby both die. She was "breaching", the baby was turned sideways. Women can and do die from that even today, and also lose the child in the process. The wife was almost certainly going to die regardless.
Breech is when the baby is coming out feet first not head first.
They say he could “leave it to the gods“ which means just let her labor and see what happens.
He should have ya know.. maybe ASK his wife what SHE wants to do. But he doesn’t. He’s selfish. Because he’s king. Because he’s a man and needs a male heir. So he makes a decision without asking her and it will haunt him and slowly eat away at him for the rest of his life.
It wasn’t HIS choice to make.
@@Persephone_Personified Sadly, as King, it was Viserys' choice to make; and he chose as a king and not as Aemma's loving husband, because he wanted a male heir and needed a male heir to put between the realm and his brother Daemon (who would not have made a good king).
min 28:55 No, haha It was either save the baby or loose them both. So the mother was going to die anyway as the baby was stuck... so the only way out for the baby is cutting the mother open and if you cut her, then she dies guaranteed. If you dont do anything, they both die haha.
28:22 . they said that Queen Aemma will die either way, either you save the child and let the mother die or either they both die. The mother could never be saved
That's what I understood too
They still could have made the scene a lot shorter and less graphic. Way too much for my liking, dont even see shit like this in horror movies lol.
It's important to remember that other than highborn houses, life expectancy in medieval times and GoT sort of things was short. So while it's only been 172 years, that's many generations. So much quicker for things such as the ice king, dragons and etc to fall into legend or myth.
That gets overestimated, the average was so low mainly from infant mortality. Survive to adulthood and the average person could expect a similar lifetime as we do. Still somewhat less, but they didn't drop dead at thirty.
@@Ashwulf well they're 8 generations apart and it's only been 172 years that's not like our times
@@harsh_1910 A generation just means a new bunch of children has grown up enough to start having their own children...
That's 160 years or so for eight generations.
@@Ashwulf you do realize that everyone was dead right every single one except aemon and the youngest generation, so if they weren't then your point would be more valid
@@harsh_1910 Your point being? People can be killed before their natural lifespan is over you know. As happened to the Targaryens...
Whoever did the casting for this needs a raise.
GRRM and Ryan Condel did some of the casting. Maybe we’ll see the casting staff in the intro next week
Hey I know I'm late to comment on this video. I just watched it this weekend. I just wanted to say the labor scene is the most relatable thing I have ever seen on television. My wife had complications at the end of her labor resulting in both her and my son ending up in the ICU. They are both well now but It was the scariest moment of my life. Luckily the staff was amazing and had everything under control. But holy shit did that give me PTSD moments. Hospitals are amazing nowadays.
Targaryens are not immune to fire. Dani was a special case. Most of the Targaryen's died out because of a huge fire at Harrenhal
@@Hurricane_Manners targs didn't burn at harrenhall, it was harren the black and house hoare targs were the one who burned them
@ nona Grey
I guess you meant Summerhall, not Harrenhal. At Summerhall many Targaryens have died during a huge fire. In addition, many of them have died from dragon fire.
Also Daenerys in the books is NOT immune to fire... drogon gave her a burn when she was taming him
@@nirnerein1 Yes
Summerhall*
"I had a crazy dream last night.
I NAMED IT THE SONG OF ICE AND FIRE.
Yep, I name my dreams."
"There's gonna be some articles written tomorrow."
Indeed.
For me, it feels like the dream being passed exclusively to the heir, and possibly getting lost because of later succession crisis, is the cause for so many of the events in ASOIAF/GOT. The Targaryens eventually losing their dragons over the centuries feeds into Rhaenyra's point about them being just like everyone else without them.
They lost their real power, messy successions lost the prophecy, and perhaps Rhaegar discovering it again, but not fully understanding it, led him to do something as stupid as taking Lyanna Stark, igniting a war.
Maybe dragon dreams about this prophecy drove Aerys mad.
It also helps explain Rhaenyra's actions and decisions going forward, and how they aren't made purely out of ego or selfishness
Aerys might have been predisposed to mental instability; but what tipped him over the edge was being kidnapped by a rebellious house and being held captive by them for months and subjected to close confinement and torture (rescued by Ser Barristan Selmy). After that, he grew obviously paranoid and crazy.
The book this was based on had many issues with births and various Targaryen children. It’s a different take on the world. I think they tried to show the difficulties in trying to get heirs, more so than GOT stories. The fact that the senseless tournament fighting was happening at the same time and that people were more shocked with the birth scene really tells you they hit the mark.
Yes there will be a timejump forward. Olivia Cook plays adult Alicent and Emma d'Arcy plays adult Rhaenyra.
Also, the mother would most probably die either way. The choice was either mother and baby both die, or they could try to save the baby and hope the mother doesn't bleed out (but she most definitely would).
I love that he's equating cersei to this ancient magical threat to humanity lmao like, the night king and homegirl cersei are on the same level jfjdhf anyway, aegon's dream is canon (aka from Martin himself), but the part about it being passed on to each heir is show only
Gotta say to you guys, theres a million and one GOT reaction channels and u both are in my top 2! Thank you for knowing what you're talking about, and not boring the hell out of me! Gonna be an amazing season!!!!
When I saw this episode in full, I remember the Maester telling Viserys that Queen Aemma would die no matter what they did; they could not save her.
This was an episode of television
True
Sure tf was!
Love the touch of the King putting his hand on the dagger... or I should say THE dagger Arya uses for the prophecy he is talking of.
I see those tears nerdy- good man. That’s the correct response, tears are absolutely the correct response. Good man
Hahaha I'm just a big ol softy at the end of the day
She was already maxed on how much milk of the poppy they could give her without killing her or the baby think of medival times and they didnt have anesthesia
16:31 “game of thrones never went that far” umm sorry 😭?? Because last time i checked, the Red Wedding is still the most traumatic scene i had ever watch on TV
The girl in video was literally predicting everything which did happen lol
How can you say they (Rhaenyra and Daemon) are cousins when she called him uncle in the very same scene. Pay some attention lol
I would totally tune in for a Monday livestream recap :)
In jousting, a rider who has been knocked off their horse is allowed to invoke hand to hand combat. But there is a risk, either they yield, or die. So it could be literally a fight to the death. Many chose death over yielding to their opponent.
Daemon Targaryen.
For some he was a _hero_
For other...the darkest of villains.
For me Shireen's death in GOT is the hardest/worst thing in the series. I have watched this birth scene many times and although it is tough, I can watch it. I've only watched Shireen's death once and won't watch it again. The prophecy was about a danger coming from the north and was obviously referring to the white walkers (not Cersei). It's more than likely that the Mad King knew about it and so did Rhaegar, but both died during Robert's Rebellion. Khaleesi never knew of any prophecy, Arya killed the Knight King, not a Targaryen. And Cersei was sitting on the Iron Throne when the white walkers were defeated. The prophecy was not accurate at all. Although Jon and Daenerys played a role, a Targaryen did not fulfill the prophecy.
*_Season 2 has been officially renewed. We are not prepared for what's to come_*
The Maester said we can save the child or lose both.
You guys definitely need to do full reactions for your Patreon
Totally agree with loving every season of GoT even the final season because the worse season of GoT is better than most shows best season! HoTD is just continuing the tradition of greatness 👏👏
Reading my mind, aren't you? :))
This 100%, even Game Of Thrones worst moments would be the highlight of 90% of other shows
@@NerdyNightly I sincerely hope that WoT is in the 10% of this statement! 😉🤣
9:29 Lisa Arryn is actually a Tully, she's not really from the Vale, she's from Riverrun
This episode was fantastic!!! I'm so excited for next week!!! this is a great start for the series!!!!
HBO owns our Sundays yet again!
I also accepted the 8th season. I was upset about it but I accepted it. I still watched the series several times. This was a great first episode.
9:32 Lisa Arryn is Hoster Tully's daughter. She's from the Riverlands.
I hope they explain how Sam started a book with the same name at the end of season 8. The wise choice is to forget about that season altogether or use the money from this show to redo that season a few years from now.
21:42 omg! tears in your eyes.
I feel it ☺
The handed down info about ASOIF was lost to time. Dany did know anything about this prophecy! She didn't believe in White walkers...she had to be convinced by John. She was never the heir...she didnt have a chance to learn. Visereys may have known... her brother...but I doubt it. It was a clever way to tie it together...I'm betting it's a GRRM gem!
the only thing that makes me doubt it coming from GRRM just a little bit is that I always assumed it was called "SONG of Ice and Fire" because Raegar played music and he came up with that.
This was the best pilot episode of a show I have seen, maybe since the Boys s1? Def better than anything on Disney+
Ok omg girl that outfit is amazing!
Fantastic Episode‼️👑🔥 THE KING IS BACK
Cool fact episode 2 will introduce the show intro 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Interesting, I can't wait to see the intro then!!!
In my opinion the dream was about JON I mean he was the leader who warned everyone about the night king and his army, so he was the mind behind everything, a real targaryen, literally Aegon. A son(g) of ice and fire.
No the ice there means white walkers . It's about Dany
@@angelyuqi6709 I strongly disagree 😂
6:25 When people remembered why Game of Thrones was so shocking when it was released!!!!!
Thanks for a great reaction video, and I liked the outro best. I think so far your attitude going into HotD was the most positive, or at least the most open/least biased I've seen, which made for a better experience to me. I'm looking forward to both Episode 2 and your reaction.
I’m willing to give everything a chance, if I don’t like it I’ll be honest, but I’ll always wait until I see it!
Uncle and Niece actually
So funny that you talked about blood lines before you saw the second episode 😂 the new intro is the blood lines….
I'd like your definition of spoilers for this show. Even if you haven't read Fire and Blood a lot of the information in this series is pretty common knowledge if you have read through Dance with Dragons. They even had an animated short almost 10 years ago from the show where Viserys tells this entire story as bonus content. But all the same I don't want to ruin anything you may have forgotten or not paid attention to
Best to assume anything not revealed in this show itself is a spoiler.
@@TheJordanK Yeah- they've seen GoT and at least Nerdy has read it as well, so I'm not going to use that strict a definition. I just can't.
@@samanthaa.6055 then use spoiler tags. You can still post your comment if you just say
SPOILER
blablabla
Since I have already subscribed and stuck through the outro what should I do? If I could subscribe more than once I would, but sadly I can not.
Once is the perfect amount!
The plural of Westerosi is Westerosi
Targaryens are heat resistant, not fireproof - unless they are in the midst of performing some powerful magic, like Dany when she hatched her dragons. All other instances were fabrications of the original show, while this show seems to veer much closer to the source material. Several Targaryens have died by fire. In fact, it's kind of a theme. Blood and Fire.
Matt Smith is fucking perfect as Daemon.
Yeah he was. I was a bit worried about it. But he did a really good job thought it was a character that was I don’t know, a bit out of his usual type
OK I kind of love that the guy I don’t know your name so I apologize had tears in his eyes at the funeral. I was a little surprised that you didn’t however got to give props to your man for having emotions that was kind of nice to see.
Lysa Aryan was from Riverlands she married into The Vale
Viserys was told by the maester that he could save the baby or the baby and Aemma would both die. In Fire and Blood, this is what happened to Queen Alyssa, the daughter-in-law of Aegon the Conqueror. After his son, her husband King Aenys died and after they dealt with Maegor the Cruel, Alyssa remarried Rogar Baratheon. She’d had five kids with her King, Rhaena, Aegon, Viserys, Jaehaerys and Alyssane but ended up pregnant by Rogar in her forties. She had a son, Boremund then ended up pregnant again. The maester at Storm’s End told Jaehaerys and Alyssane the exact same thing this maester did, and Rogar told the maester to save the baby. Jocelyn was born weak, but she did survive…and is the mother of Princess Rhaenys, the granddaughter who was passed over at the very beginning. Jocelyn married Jaehaerys’ son, Aemon, and Rhaenys was their only child. That is why she called the Baratheon guy “cousin”, because he IS her cousin.
I'm sorry if i'm being too forward or weird in a sense but she is GORGEOUS i just have to say it. I can't stop looking at her she looks like a superhero and she reminds me a lot of jean grey.
Ps. I'm gay but i really needed to appreciate her beauty.
I think Dany doesn’t know the prophecy. Aerys would’ve only told Rhaegar (as the heir), who then dies, and Viserys is not with Aerys in Kings Landing so there’s no chance for him to learn it before the king is killed by Jaime.
Also the dagger King Viserys has on his belt looks familiar 😉
They do say if your scared of public speaking picture everyone naked lol
..and to think there were some people complaining that there wouldn't be as much violence/sex as GoT. That birth scene was brutal. One hell of a first episode lol
this show made me so happy, but sad at the same time knowing the ending of game of thrones...
Yall are awesome. Subscribed
Okay follow me on this, Aegon had a vision of the winter coming via a dream prophecy as the king said, so Aegon didn’t just conquer he viewed his actions as being for the greater good. Assuming that Daenerys was also aware of this maybe her villain arc was also from her perspective as being for the greater good to save mankind. That detail was not in the book either it was something the author revealed to the cast as being an untold part of the story. This kind of changes how I see season 8 and makes me understand it a little better.
yes there is a jump forward
Knew it!
Very great reaction and analysis, and yes, as we get further into the season, I would like to see another video with further analysis and commentary about themes and characters, and I'd like to see more comparisons between this series and the original.
HBO don't use post credits as Marvel. But after every new episode of an original series they show scenes of the next episode. Only in the release not in the reruns. That's why is important to watch in the release.
If you could show her a dragon you could win her but you could also win the whole web.
True! I’d be so famous!
I got into the books because of the show, in fact I was a straight HBO fan boy back in the Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood days. I used to tell people HBO wasn't television it was an experience.. which was a commercial they had, but I agreed whole heartily and wanted to do my part to spread the message... as well as that HBO had made Sundays sacred for me... I mean, really I'd argue all the great television we get today is because of HBO, they were the first to do shortened seasons with much more quality put into them as apposed to like 30 episode seasons with "TV production" quality. We forget how television used to be because everyone has copied HBO's format for television, who were doing it for decades before anyone else was and I would still argue do it better than anyone else. Well, maybe that's no longer fair to say since they haven't had the best show on television since season 7 of GOT.. what I will say is while their ceiling might not be higher than everyone else's anymore, I'd still argue their floor definitely still is... They're still the one network I assume anything they make will be of at least a certain quality, even if a different network has a show or two better than anything HBO currently has. Anyway, sorry for the long set up but hopefully that conveys how big an HBO fan I was long before and during GOT, which I still consider the first six or seven seasons to be the best television ever! That's saying something since Ive always had HBO and seen everything they've done, like The Sopranos.. and including The Wire... which I never thought a show would equal! I had never heard of the books until the show, and began reading A Clash of Kings (second book) following the first season since waiting a year to find out if Arya and Sansa we're going to be okay following Ned's beheading felt way to long to bear! Anyway, that's how much I loved the show, which everything in the show came from the books up until the still not written Winds of Winter. The best seasons of the show by far are the ones written by Martin, but more than that the books are just so much richer than the show is. And as I said, the first seven seasons were my favorite television show ever, certainly the first six.. but books filled with as much great shit as the song of ice and fire books are you just can't include it all into a television show... I get his style of writing being hard to follow, that's true, but as you get a bit more accustomed to it I promise the books are so much richer, and that as great as the show is the books are even greater!
Promise me, Rhaenyra. PROMISE ME 😢😭🤧
HEARTBREAKING
There was no possible way the mother could have survived. Think about it
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Love the all 7 seasons beautiful sarcasm
Exactly right Claroos! The night king IS the real danger. Cersei is not. That’s the entire point of the books. I mean Cersei isn’t even close to maegor the cruel or the mad king… so her rule isn’t even that bad. But the story is about how all these lords are focusing on the wrong thing (the iron throne) while literal ice zombies could literally kill them all. And the prophecy WASNT fulfilled because of the order of events, which is why season 8 just doesn’t even exist. It’s not a thing. It makes no sense… never mind all the other prophecy’s and arcs that were unfulfilled.
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Dany saved everyone from the horror of Cersei's rule by burning 90% of them to ash. 🤔😦
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I loooove when you reference wheel of time in your other videos. It’s correct.
It weaves its way into the conversation 😂
I have a few thoughts based on this episode. I haven't read *Fire and Blood* yet, but I'm aware of a fair amount of the history going into this from reading the main series.
1. I highly suspect that the tourney listings are bits of foreshadowing toward how the Dance of the Dragons will play out. We have certain houses jousting against each other, and other characters "offering their favor" (aka forming alliances). I suspect that if we compare each joust to future conflicts that some of them at least will line up with actual conflicts. It felt very Ari Aster of them to display a microcosm of the larger conflict and secretly reveal the fates and alliances of most characters right off the bat.
2. Super tinfoil theory: someone is poisoning the king. Most of the kings that sat on the Iron Throne ended up cutting themselves on it, and GRRM uses this as a method to show whether or not a ruler is worthy of sitting on it. The Mad King ended up being called "King Scab" because he got cut so much. King Viserys gets nicked by it during the episode, which kind of suggests that he's slightly unfit for rule too. However, the twist here is that he seems to have a festering wound that can't be healed, and he blames it on the throne cutting him. That immediately caught my attention. What if someone is "treating" the throne with a poison or a disease, knowing full well that the king keeps getting jabbed by it and that no one but the king has a rightful reason to ever touch it? Wouldn't that be the perfect means of royal assassination? Death by a thousand paper cuts, and people will only suspect the wine or the food. We saw Prince Daemon sitting on it early in the episode, which would give him opportunity, but poison is out of character for the butchery he displayed later on. He could be an easy patsy, though. We also have Grand Maester Mellos, who has access to various diseases and poisons (including Grayscale, which causes the same pus as that of the wound). There's even a handsome Dornish knight named Ser Criston Cole, and what did the Dornish resort to time and again on Game of Thrones? Poison. Obviously, this is all super tinfoil right now since there's only been a few scant clues, and we'll see where things lead in the next few episodes, but I found it interesting that when King Viserys greets Rhaenyra in the crypts before naming her his heir, he says that "the Iron Throne is the most dangerous seat in the realm." This sort of scripting may well be very prophetic (like the clues for Jon's parentage) if we rewatch this episode later on with keener eyes.
3. The death of an Arryn (in this case, Aemma) seems to be the impetus for yet another civil war. How fitting.
4. The dagger that King Viserys gifts to Rhaenyra in the crypts is the same dagger that Arya uses to kill the Night King at the end of Game of Thrones. Although it's not passed down in the traditional way after Joffrey has it used in the attempted murder of Bran, it still manages to get into the hands of the person that truly needed it. At least the show version... lol!
I like this!! I really want it to pan out :)
They are not cousin. He is her uncle
I didn’t know that till later when Viserys said they were brothers, they look really far apart in age
@@NerdyNightly Daemon and Rhaenyra have 16 years gap. Maybe he was born when viserys still pre teen?
@@novitabasaria7282 Apparently Vyserys is only 28 at this point in the book so I have no clue
Present day: the unborn has more rights than the mother...wtf.
An important thing about Daemon's character is that he is a psychopath. Literally. He doesn't care what people think of him, he doesn't care about anyone but himself and his own power. He manipulates, deceives, and anything else he needs to do. The whole scene with the mutilations was him getting known criminals, and then carrying out brutal sentences. Because he wanted to show he was strong, to his brother's weakness. At the Joust, he hates Otto Hightower, so he cheats to unhorse the Hightower rider, then asks Alicent for her favour, so she either rejects the Prince, or he gets to humiliate Hightower ever further.
Daemon in the books ISNT a psychopath BUT he wants people to think he is. He loves his brother more than he wanted the Iron Throne. Or else he'd go full Maegor and kill Viserys long ago
Where they really/confirmed criminals? To me, it just looked like they went wild and grabbed whoever was on their way that night and gave them labels and punishments to those labels.
@@arosa_mg Well, I suppose it depends on if you believe what Daemon said about the state of Kings Landing. They definitely were grabbing specific people, as no-one in the main courtyard was grabbed when they left, and those were some specific crimes being named. But I can easily see it being as you said, but we do know Kings Landing is more than a bit of a boiling mess of crime and poverty at times.
@@archmaester6594 True, I haven't read Fire and Blood, only know my ASOIAF lore. I suppose it'll depend on how Daemon is portrayed going forward.
@@archmaester6594 yeah I also feel that way. He can kill his brother if he really wanted the throne but even Matt Smith said Daemon seemed like didn't want the throne that much, he described Daemon as agent of chaos , doesn't feel like full psychopath, also in his opinion Daemon's actually more a family oriented guy (maybe based on the adaptation script he got to act).