Another salient point, the Bullet 350 is a core model for the India home market. I think the reason the Classic was released first is twofold. 1: The Classic has its main appeal in the UK and European markets, which RE are specifically targeting with this model, and 2: due to the resistance on the home market of to changes to their iconic Bullet, they needed to prove that the J platform was a good upgrade so that older Indian customers would be more inclined to embrace the changes. Just my humble opinion.
Not sure the drum brakes version will be available in the UK. All the Classic 350 version on the UK web site show disk brakes. I have the Chrome Bronze Classic and love it to bits. I do agree that they seem to have dropped the ball regards a badged Bullet.
Would definitely go for the drum brakes if they were available in the Uk even if the stopping power wasn’t quite as good - drum looks far more “ classic “ and with less maintenance too .
Compared to the last UCE models, where the engine is a stress member, it looks like the chassis cradles the J-series. Also, the rear brake lever goes over the silencer pipe, rather that under, which was a problem on the UCE models, as it was the lowest thing on the bike and scraped on right turns. I guess technology has moved on and OHC is more durable now, but I'm glad I got the last of the pushrod engines on my B5 Bullet 500. The Classic 350 Reborn was well received, so re-badging it as a Bullet is fine. Hope they make a 500 but I don't think the 650 twins should go in a Bullet. It should always be a single.
Don’t think RE will make a 500 OHC motor as it would be divide potential 350 and 650 customers , shame though because I’d like to see the grunt of a 500cc cam motor
You are aware that you are viewing the Indian market versions of All these Royal Enfield's? None of the bike's sold in the UK have those guards on the rear wheel on the left side in the UK? Also all previous Bullets have had square type boxes on the side's, I don't think you'd be able to change them, and if you buy a Bullet, why would you? I'm mostly disappointed that Royal Enfield don't appear to be making an all Chrome Bullet (Mudguards ect), I have owned a 2008 Royal Enfield 350 Bullet, and a later 500 Bullet, I at present own a 650 Interceptor, I'm getting a Hunter 350 as a second bike in about Three weeks, I'm looking forward to it, Cheers Paul Foster
Congratulations on the new Hunter. TES I know this model shows the domestic version of the classic 350. People watch from all over the world so I don’t go into regional differences (too complicated). I believe a saree-guard is a legal requirement if you have a pillion seat in India.
I looked at a black and gold one .Wow the fit and finish was as good as anything and that rear fender is much better at its job.The seat is actually better for all around use.The side covers fit the frame lines with their Triangular shape.
I don't think cast wheels are an option for the stealth classic in the UK. Good improvement on the rear fender on the Bullet. Back of bike and pillion should stay a bit cleaner
Don’t forget the primary market for this machine is India where these will be ridden by men with their significant other on the back, probably with a sari guard with the girl/woman sitting side saddle so that pillion seat makes more sense.
Hi, think the drum rear brakes will prob be home India market not EU, you see that on the India Classic 350 you posted from the India Website, thanks for mentioning all 350 Classics come with 2 seats 😁👍👍👍 Cheers Bruce
Well presented WM! Owning a Marsh Grey(green) that was exactly the same reason I chose the Signals version because I don’t have time to polish the engine covers let alone the front forks🤦♂️ I wonder if a single seat from the Classic will fit the Bullet🤔 the rear guard still provides rear wheel clearance, the side form looks enclosed which I like! I’d say for Europe & UK, drum rear brakes will not be available. Thanks for your input
Holding out in hopes for a 500 classic military green. 350 is ok but, prefer a 500. If was my only bike would get a 650 instead. But, I have several large V Twins and a 500 is still step down in power but, more then a 350. Not sure why they did away with a iconic middle ground setup.
On all these 3D models they show the heel/toe gear shift lever. I thought that previously only the Meteor models had the heel/toe shift, and the Classic variants a toe only shift.
In six years' time, it will be the bullet's 100th anniversary. A good time to launch a brand new Bullet 500? Would make sense then to tweak a Classic to at least have a Bullet in the meantime.
Just a quick note: The drum rear brake is not an option for the UK spec Classic 350 - neither are the alloy wheels. Whether we see these on the new Bullet is doubtful too - they seem to be reserved for the Indian home market?
I was in a RE showroom in northern India ( Punjab) in 2017 having a look around and got talking with the sales guy about the bikes not having disc brakes , he smiled and kinda did a fact spit motion as if to say (disc is crap) we both agreed! Form over function perhaps. 😎
Is the tank different? It looks like pinstripes are the only difference. The drum brake is only for India. No ABS on the drum, only the front. The rear mudguard on your computer render are missing the external braces. The Classic has them and so does the Bullet.
Preferably the blacked out version more practical in this country with the weather being wet most of the time , like the Sand coloured R E . Great vid 👌 👍
I'm not sure the "always had a bullet" stands up as the UK 500 was discontinued in 1961 and the 350 in 1967. I would also say the range toppper would also be considered to be the constellation and the interceptor. I don't see a single 500 on the way back, the only thing that would be possible (emmissions and performance) would be reintroducing the 500 twin by modifying the 650 engine.
My 2022 Halycon Green Classic has disc brakes front and rear. The RE 3D online model is not an accurate representation of the product that RE released.
@@WildlifeMoto with such small output it may make it less viable for motorway work although having a classic I know it’s not very pleasant pinning the accelerator for extended lengths of time anyway! Makes sense to make a tweak increasing torque for indian roads.
If the Bullet & Classic are on the same frame & platform, would their seats be interchangeable then? I know this is the case on the 650 twins. You can put a Continental GT seat & cowl on an Interceptor, and essentially create a cafe racer styled bike that still allows you to sit mostly upright. Is this also the case with the Bullet & Classic 350?
@@WildlifeMoto shame if they don’t it would fit beautifully between my hunter 350 and my interceptor 650. But I do think the 350 engine is an under stressed engine and would make a nice 500, and maybe RE had that in mind from the start, as many of the 125cc bikes here in uk are 135cc or 155cc in Asia and it’s only the ECU that is the difference.
The left side is terrible, nothing is symetrical . Engine case is a terrible shape, looks like a hospital piss pot. Side cases are also an odd shape. Fastners seam to stand out too much . Rear seat line is too v shaped needs flattening out a bit. Its like they thought how many shapes can we fit into this frame.
@@WildlifeMoto Heritage,build quality, reliability, price point, I'm a fan of, aesthetics let's part of it down imo . But don't be sad because 3 out of 4 ain't bad, almost meatloaf..
Very well done video. I've been considering these two models for my feature bike of 2024 on my own channel. Your presentation has gone a long way toward convincing me that the Classic is the bike I need for it. Thanks
Another salient point, the Bullet 350 is a core model for the India home market. I think the reason the Classic was released first is twofold. 1: The Classic has its main appeal in the UK and European markets, which RE are specifically targeting with this model, and 2: due to the resistance on the home market of to changes to their iconic Bullet, they needed to prove that the J platform was a good upgrade so that older Indian customers would be more inclined to embrace the changes. Just my humble opinion.
I have ordered a 350 Bullet and hope to pick it up this weekend...Christmas comes early!
Congratulations. Enjoy
Ordered last week❤
Love the grey Millitary blacked out look , very stylish and it does stand out , bit of a head turner 😀 👍
Not sure the drum brakes version will be available in the UK. All the Classic 350 version on the UK web site show disk brakes. I have the Chrome Bronze Classic and love it to bits. I do agree that they seem to have dropped the ball regards a badged Bullet.
Would definitely go for the drum brakes if they were available in the Uk even if the stopping power wasn’t quite as good - drum looks far more “ classic “ and with less maintenance too .
Drum front and rear would suit me perfect.
Compared to the last UCE models, where the engine is a stress member, it looks like the chassis cradles the J-series. Also, the rear brake lever goes over the silencer pipe, rather that under, which was a problem on the UCE models, as it was the lowest thing on the bike and scraped on right turns. I guess technology has moved on and OHC is more durable now, but I'm glad I got the last of the pushrod engines on my B5 Bullet 500. The Classic 350 Reborn was well received, so re-badging it as a Bullet is fine. Hope they make a 500 but I don't think the 650 twins should go in a Bullet. It should always be a single.
The bottom rails are NOT frame. They are simply a place to mount the footpegs. The Hunter has the same frame but no rails thanks to the rearset pegs.
Don’t think RE will make a 500 OHC motor as it would be divide potential 350 and 650 customers , shame though because I’d like to see the grunt of a 500cc cam motor
You are aware that you are viewing the Indian market versions of All these Royal Enfield's?
None of the bike's sold in the UK have those guards on the rear wheel on the left side in the UK?
Also all previous Bullets have had square type boxes on the side's,
I don't think you'd be able to change them, and if you buy a Bullet, why would you?
I'm mostly disappointed that Royal Enfield don't appear to be making an all Chrome Bullet (Mudguards ect),
I have owned a 2008 Royal Enfield 350 Bullet, and a later 500 Bullet,
I at present own a 650 Interceptor,
I'm getting a Hunter 350 as a second bike in about Three weeks,
I'm looking forward to it,
Cheers Paul Foster
Congratulations on the new Hunter. TES I know this model shows the domestic version of the classic 350. People watch from all over the world so I don’t go into regional differences (too complicated). I believe a saree-guard is a legal requirement if you have a pillion seat in India.
Looking at some Indian websites, the handlebars on the new Bullet are higher than on the Classic.
But which better plz halp me bcz i purchase so please tell me bullet 350 is good ya classic 350? Please answer sir
I looked at a black and gold one .Wow the fit and finish was as good as anything and that rear fender is much better at its job.The seat is actually better for all around use.The side covers fit the frame lines with their Triangular shape.
I don't think cast wheels are an option for the stealth classic in the UK. Good improvement on the rear fender on the Bullet. Back of bike and pillion should stay a bit cleaner
Drumbrakes are only for India 🇮🇳 as a cheaper option. Not available in Europe.
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So the base models(red, black,) & med models (maroon & black) are priced same?
Thanks for the insight!
I own a signals model. Desert Sand. Love it! None of the signals have the headlight hood. Weird. I fitted my own.
Yes, you would think that the Signals should have the peak on the headlight !
urgent request RE - bring on the air cooled 500 please
Never gonna happen
Don’t forget the primary market for this machine is India where these will be ridden by men with their significant other on the back, probably with a sari guard with the girl/woman sitting side saddle so that pillion seat makes more sense.
Hi, think the drum rear brakes will prob be home India market not EU, you see that on the India Classic 350 you posted from the India Website, thanks for mentioning all 350 Classics come with 2 seats 😁👍👍👍
Cheers Bruce
Well presented WM! Owning a Marsh Grey(green) that was exactly the same reason I chose the Signals version because I don’t have time to polish the engine covers let alone the front forks🤦♂️ I wonder if a single seat from the Classic will fit the Bullet🤔 the rear guard still provides rear wheel clearance, the side form looks enclosed which I like! I’d say for Europe & UK, drum rear brakes will not be available. Thanks for your input
I agree. It's curious that these very small differences justify such a launch.
Holding out in hopes for a 500 classic military green. 350 is ok but, prefer a 500. If was my only bike would get a 650 instead. But, I have several large V Twins and a 500 is still step down in power but, more then a 350. Not sure why they did away with a iconic middle ground setup.
Bottom line, this thing will perform exactly like the classic🤷🏻♂️
Yep. Exactly.
On all these 3D models they show the heel/toe gear shift lever. I thought that previously only the Meteor models had the heel/toe shift, and the Classic variants a toe only shift.
In six years' time, it will be the bullet's 100th anniversary. A good time to launch a brand new Bullet 500? Would make sense then to tweak a Classic to at least have a Bullet in the meantime.
Just a quick note: The drum rear brake is not an option for the UK spec Classic 350 - neither are the alloy wheels. Whether we see these on the new Bullet is doubtful too - they seem to be reserved for the Indian home market?
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I was in a RE showroom in northern India ( Punjab) in 2017 having a look around and got talking with the sales guy about the bikes not having disc brakes , he smiled and kinda did a fact spit motion as if to say (disc is crap) we both agreed! Form over function perhaps. 😎
Is the tank different? It looks like pinstripes are the only difference.
The drum brake is only for India. No ABS on the drum, only the front.
The rear mudguard on your computer render are missing the external braces. The Classic has them and so does the Bullet.
Still prefer the classic ! .....as for the silver crankcases , don't be lazy , polish them 😂
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Why make work for yourself 😜
@@kevindarkstar Only do mine 1 or 2 times a year ! Need something over winter to keep yourself occupied !
@@themoog3889 Mmm that's a point
Just last month arrived in USA, I'm very soon going to buy Bullet 350 black with golden lines. It was my dream to ride the bullet❤
Preferably the blacked out version more practical in this country with the weather being wet most of the time , like the Sand coloured R E . Great vid 👌 👍
No drum brakes for blighty...
At least here in Germany there is no Classic 350 with alloy wheels
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Doch, die kannst du als Zubehör kaufen.
You can swap the dual seat out for the low ride solo.
I think NOT, do you have further informations ?
I now own a Bullet 350 after previously owning a Classic and I think you’re right.@@remarkableflooty7476
Give us bullet 500cc , think it will hit the global market.
If only…
I bought the gunmetal grey because of the alloy wheels. Didn't want a catastrophic blow out on tube tyres spoiling my weekend. Love it.
I'm not sure the "always had a bullet" stands up as the UK 500 was discontinued in 1961 and the 350 in 1967. I would also say the range toppper would also be considered to be the constellation and the interceptor. I don't see a single 500 on the way back, the only thing that would be possible (emmissions and performance) would be reintroducing the 500 twin by modifying the 650 engine.
The bars and tank appears to be lifted from the Meteor.
One thing to consider is that the rear shocks are easily adjusted on the Bullet whereas the stays are in the way on the Classic.
My 2022 Halycon Green Classic has disc brakes front and rear. The RE 3D online model is not an accurate representation of the product that RE released.
There are two versions of the green bike. One with dual channel ABS for Europe and the Drum set up which I believe is available in India.
Good job Mate!
Hopefully the speedometer works.
Have I got this wrong or is the power output slightly down, torque slightly up compared to the classic?
It might be slightly different on paper, but I doubt it will be noticeable when riding.
@@WildlifeMoto with such small output it may make it less viable for motorway work although having a classic I know it’s not very pleasant pinning the accelerator for extended lengths of time anyway! Makes sense to make a tweak increasing torque for indian roads.
If the Bullet & Classic are on the same frame & platform, would their seats be interchangeable then?
I know this is the case on the 650 twins. You can put a Continental GT seat & cowl on an Interceptor, and essentially create a cafe racer styled bike that still allows you to sit mostly upright.
Is this also the case with the Bullet & Classic 350?
Possibly, but the rear mudguard is slightly different. Not sure.
It is a missed opportunity to not have a 500 for the Western market.
It's probably due to regulation.
Roda presa! Não anda nada,uma 350 que não passa de 120 km só serve para comprar pão e ir na farmácia. Em 74 minha honda 360cc, chegava a 160km
I would like the RE 350 Classic with the Alloy wheels...
you can buy them as accessory
If RE give us a air cooled 500 bullet here in the uk 🇬🇧 and Europe I would buy one straight away 👍
Yep, me to. Doubt it’s happening though.
@@WildlifeMoto shame if they don’t it would fit beautifully between my hunter 350 and my interceptor 650. But I do think the 350 engine is an under stressed engine and would make a nice 500, and maybe RE had that in mind from the start, as many of the 125cc bikes here in uk are 135cc or 155cc in Asia and it’s only the ECU that is the difference.
Apparently the J series motor's air cooling won't support the extra heat shedding required by 500cc (certainly not in the home market)@@hairybiker68
Me to
The left side is terrible, nothing is symetrical . Engine case is a terrible shape, looks like a hospital piss pot. Side cases are also an odd shape. Fastners seam to stand out too much . Rear seat line is too v shaped needs flattening out a bit. Its like they thought how many shapes can we fit into this frame.
Not a fan then?
@@WildlifeMoto Heritage,build quality, reliability, price point, I'm a fan of, aesthetics let's part of it down imo . But don't be sad because 3 out of 4 ain't bad, almost meatloaf..
His name says it all !🤪
Very well done video. I've been considering these two models for my feature bike of 2024 on my own channel. Your presentation has gone a long way toward convincing me that the Classic is the bike I need for it. Thanks