Hi Paule, nice video. The slight reduction of sharpness on the edges is probably not the speedbooster, it's the lens. Obviously you are using the whole lens and even a bit more as its 0.95 crop so the lens will always be a little soft especially wide open. When not using the speedbooster you are only using the central part of the lens which explains the sharper results. I use this adapter with my C70 and its amazing.
I think that given all of the money in the world, this would be my go-to camera combo. You essentially get an ultra-portable Red full frame camera with autofocus and global shutter and compatibility with 3rd party accessories for under $7K. I hope Red releases a successor to the Komodo so that the Komodo drops a tiny bit more in price so that it's within my range.
Excellent video, you touched on all the important points. I recently got this as well for the Komodo, and I am very happy - more light, wider fov for 4k 60, and IS / auto focus is great. 16-35 F4 lens works great
Excellent review and as I was watching this I was thinking "the 24-70 would be great with this," and then you showed the IS test! Haha. Love it. Thanks for this video
Hi Paule, great review and thanks for doing a detailed review. I'm still waiting for my Canon Speed-Booster ... Products take a while to get to New Zealand 🤪
Great review but there is one mistake. You coomparing corners in speedbooster to cropped wide lens. It's obvious that it has much softer corners than center of the optics. I think corners are not that bad if you compare to other ff camera. This is limitation of the lens itself.
I used the Metabones 0.64 XL for a while and it is also very good. The only issue I had was when the lens was under f2.0 it would cause a really odd soft focus look. Otherwise it was fine.
Hey. So I really like the idea of a 24-70 but I would like to have auto focus as well as in body stabilization as I do music video as a one man team and a lot of handheld work. I can’t for the life of me figure out which lens to pair this speed booster with on the Komodo that fits that criteria and has usable auto focus as well as stabilization. I was aiming towards the Tamron but quickly found out the auto focus doesn’t work with this adapter. I could really use any help at all! Also budget isn’t really an issue for me but I don’t want a cine lens. Thanks again and amazing In depth video!
Thanks mate. So honestly don’t use the Komodo AF for professional work. It is not reliable. For talking heads ok but with movement and different lighting the AF will struggle. If Budget isn’t an issue hire an AC on your jobs ☺️
Hi Paule, thanks for all these videos, good evaluations and your videos are on point with issues that help in making decisions about this equipment. This is more of a general question than related to the focal reducer, although touches on that. I have used an EOS R for a while and am very happy with the image quality. I just purchased the C70 to use as a master shot for interviews in multi cam setups with my EOS R and I feel like the C70 image has more of a flat feel to it and just doesn't have the separation of the subject from the background that I get with my EOS R with the same lens and the sharpness of the image is a bit lacking, so when I switch back and forth between the angles it just has a different feel to it that is a bit disruptive. I know some of this is related to the Super 35 vs full frame sensor but I'm wondering what your thoughts are concerning cutting in footage from the R6 and the C70, do you find the feel is different? And do you feel that the speed booster helps with making the footage more similar looking? Are there settings that you use to help if you use the camera in this way? From the R6 clip you used in this it does look a bit like the same difference. Any insight you had would be appreciated if you can speak from your experience with this. Thanks!
Hi Mate, I’ve used the R before and I think it does a lot of in camera sharpening which can’t be turned off. This is why the c70 or any Cinema camera looks softer since professional film cameras don’t do this. This way you have the flexibility to add sharpness in post to your liking. You can get the same DoF with the speedbooster yes. But hands down the c70 is a much better camera compared to the R/ R6 in terms of image quality and also how “organic” / “filmic” the footage of the c70 looks. The mirrorless cameras always look very digital
@@pauleporterdp Great, thanks for the explanation. After using these cameras I'm kind of used to the look/feel. Haven't really had any experience with the Cine cameras. Good to know. Look forward to your future videos!
Hello! I'm using the Canon Mount Adapter with my Komodo, pairing it with the Canon EF 16-35 Mk III F/2.8.. while zooming in with the lens it decreases exposure. This is super frustrating and I'm trying to figure out why this would be the case on a constant f/2.8 aperture lens. Any info would be helpful thank you!
In your IS test section you said you were using a Tamron 24-70? Was this the Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2? I ask because i would like to get this lens but several people have posted on facebook saying it does not work on komodo?
Great vid! I decided I'm going to build my whole kit one thing at a time based solely on your videos. If you never do a video about tripods, I just won't ever get one but I'll pretend like it's my "aesthetic choice".
Thank you for this informative video! I purchased the Canon focal reducer, partially based on this video, and couldn't be happier. That said, I have to ask you: Does the autofocus work for you on the Komodo with the Tamron 24-70mm F2.8 G2? I have that lens too, but I'm having a hard time controlling it from the Komodo or using it with Autofocus on the Komodo, both with the stock adaptor supplied with the camera and with that Canon focal reducer. For me, both the Tamron lenses (24-70mm + 70-200mm) and the Tokina 11-20mm F2.8, are stuttering when Komodo tries to control them wither through Autofocus or when driving manual focus through the Red Control app. I wonder if you are having the same issue.
Thanks man. Yes exactly it depends on the lens. My tamron AF doesn’t work at all and doesn’t matter with speedbooster or without. My sigma and canon lenses work great but the tamron doesn’t. Not sure what’s the issue but I think it’s the communication with the lens. I don’t have any other lens from another manufacturer to test. But as said canon and sigma works great.
@@pauleporterdp thanks. I spoke with Red today, and there might be good news coming soon via firmware. In the meantime, which lens do you recommend more (in terms of sharpness and overall quality) the Canon RF 24-105mm F4, or the Canon RF 35mm F1.8? Is one of them noticeably sharper?
Definitely the 35mm since it’s a prime. But there is the question do you want best image quality or maximum flexibility. :) Thanks for the info about RED :)
@@pauleporterdp I want a lens that will intercut seemlessly with my Tamron lenses, and those pack a lot of character through imperfect optics but still manage to be very sharp. I'm not sure if the 24-105 (Canon RF version) will be sharp enough to intercut with the Tamron 24-70mm G2 and 70-200mm G2, and the new Tokina 11-20mm. From the samples I saw on TH-cam, it seems sharper than the older EF versions of the Canon L 24-105 F4, but still, kind of soft. On its own I don't mind it, but unsure as for how it will intercut with my other lenses.
I'm wondering what about if you need NDs? you'll take like screw on filters? Cause Matte Box will probably result in reflections that you don't want between the 2 glass elements. It feels like I would go with the Kippertie Revolva for NDs but then, no Focal Reducer... thoughts?
I’m already working on it. I didn’t want making it too early. First of I wanted to shoot some projects and wanted to gather experience with it. But it should be online in February ☺️
Hi Paule, I want to use this with the Irix 45 mm T 1.5 - It's a big and heavy cinema lens, about 1.1 kg or 2.4 lbs, so I'm mainly concerned about the sturdiness of the mounts. I mean both the RF mount on the Komodo itself, then the other two mounts on the speedbooster. What is your take on this?
4.01 - look at the difference in the way the face is rendered on full-frame - much flatter. Thanks for not saying the speed booster makes it full-frame. Nice review thanks.
This is my question. Do we have to buy a ND filter for this as well or can we use the ND that I bought with the EF adapter on the Komodo? I bought the camera with that adapter w ND Or does this stack onto the canon EF adapter?
How are you getting a lesser crop in 4K mode ? A Focal Reducer reduces the focal length of the 50mm x .71 and now the 50mm is like 35.5mm. If you had used the 35.5mm lens you would get the same. Why do you have to use a lens and make it wider with a speed booster where you could just use a wider lens - Unless your goal is to get more light or brighter image !
this focal reducer + a 24-70 f2.8 L EF (and no IS), or a RF 24-70 2.8 IS for a red Komodo (and I'll be likely moving to a canon photo body to use the lens for both photo and video)?
@@pauleporterdp I'm wondering which would be better for me on a red komodo, an EF canon l 24-70 and a focal reducer (the one shown in this video) Or, a RF 24-70 L with IS
Great video Paule! Enjoyed watching your tests. Nice work!
Thanks Griffin really appreciate that. :)
Hi Paule, nice video. The slight reduction of sharpness on the edges is probably not the speedbooster, it's the lens. Obviously you are using the whole lens and even a bit more as its 0.95 crop so the lens will always be a little soft especially wide open. When not using the speedbooster you are only using the central part of the lens which explains the sharper results. I use this adapter with my C70 and its amazing.
Hi Tom, ok thanks for the clearification :)
Where did you guys buy yours from? It’s not in stock yet on B&H or Adorama.
@@lukeshawdp7242 I preordered mine along with the C70 when it was announced
Oh good point!
Hey Tom is the Canon speedbooster better than Metabones?
I think that given all of the money in the world, this would be my go-to camera combo. You essentially get an ultra-portable Red full frame camera with autofocus and global shutter and compatibility with 3rd party accessories for under $7K. I hope Red releases a successor to the Komodo so that the Komodo drops a tiny bit more in price so that it's within my range.
Totally agree and that’s why I love this combo :)
Komodo is nowhere near under $7K, not unless you plan to film with just the camera brain.
Excellent video, you touched on all the important points. I recently got this as well for the Komodo, and I am very happy - more light, wider fov for 4k 60, and IS / auto focus is great. 16-35 F4 lens works great
Thanks for your feedback :) really appreciate that :)
Thank you for creating such an in depth video on this, you answered every question that came to mind!
Thanks John, I’m glad that you liked it
Excellent Review! Very informative and because of your review, I will definitely purchase this with my Komodo!
Hi Troy, thanks for your feedback really appreciate that. Yes I’m using this speedbooster all the time and really love it. :)
Yesss! The video I been waiting for. Thank you for this.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
this video did it for me, I will be purchasing one for my RED Komodo. Thank you! 🙏🏼🔥
Thanks Christopher I’m glad that this was helpful to you ☺️
It softens the image beautifully as well ever so subtle but noticeable
Thanks for watching and your feedback :)
Excellent review and as I was watching this I was thinking "the 24-70 would be great with this," and then you showed the IS test! Haha. Love it. Thanks for this video
Thanks for your feedback. I’m glad that you like it
I was so curious about whether or not the lens IS would work with this adapter on the RED! So happy to hear it does work! Thank you.
You’re welcome thanks for watching :)
Great Review Thank you for These Tests.
You’re welcome and thanks for watching ;)
Hi Paule, great review and thanks for doing a detailed review. I'm still waiting for my Canon Speed-Booster ... Products take a while to get to New Zealand 🤪
Hi Darryl, thanks 🙏 can Imagine that. :)
thank you for the deep test, really helps !
Thank you for watching :)
Very interesting and accurate review. Do you think it’s worth spend those money on a speed booster if I ha only have one EF lens ?
Thank you 😊
I think yes since the Speedbooster offers you more variety.
4 likes, a 14 minute long video. Uploaded 4 minutes ago. You got fans
Seems to be true :)
Great review but there is one mistake. You coomparing corners in speedbooster to cropped wide lens. It's obvious that it has much softer corners than center of the optics. I think corners are not that bad if you compare to other ff camera. This is limitation of the lens itself.
OK thanks for your Feedback :)
Cool! Biggest downside for me is that you can't put a variety ND between the lens and the body any longer..
Yes totally agree but the features are incredible
Really like all your content (and improving my German on you other channel)
Thanks mate, glad that you also watch my German channel :)
@@pauleporterdp Yes, I fell in love with Berlin (where I live) and falling in love with the komodo, would love to combine them
Thanks Paule! Great tests! Is there a way to support the speedbooster, like connect it to the plate you have for example?
Thanks Gordon, yes meanwhile there should be a third party solution for that if I’m not mistaken
Thanks man, great content.
Thanks I appreciate your feedback :)
I used the Metabones 0.64 XL for a while and it is also very good. The only issue I had was when the lens was under f2.0 it would cause a really odd soft focus look. Otherwise it was fine.
Thanks for your feedback. Did you get control over the lens so communication between lens and camera
@@pauleporterdp I only shot with manual focus lenses. Plus my camera didn’t have good autofocus (Z CAM E2)
Is Canon better optically?
Hey. So I really like the idea of a 24-70 but I would like to have auto focus as well as in body stabilization as I do music video as a one man team and a lot of handheld work. I can’t for the life of me figure out which lens to pair this speed booster with on the Komodo that fits that criteria and has usable auto focus as well as stabilization. I was aiming towards the Tamron but quickly found out the auto focus doesn’t work with this adapter. I could really use any help at all! Also budget isn’t really an issue for me but I don’t want a cine lens. Thanks again and amazing In depth video!
Thanks mate. So honestly don’t use the Komodo AF for professional work. It is not reliable. For talking heads ok but with movement and different lighting the AF will struggle.
If Budget isn’t an issue hire an AC on your jobs ☺️
Hi Paule, thanks for all these videos, good evaluations and your videos are on point with issues that help in making decisions about this equipment. This is more of a general question than related to the focal reducer, although touches on that. I have used an EOS R for a while and am very happy with the image quality. I just purchased the C70 to use as a master shot for interviews in multi cam setups with my EOS R and I feel like the C70 image has more of a flat feel to it and just doesn't have the separation of the subject from the background that I get with my EOS R with the same lens and the sharpness of the image is a bit lacking, so when I switch back and forth between the angles it just has a different feel to it that is a bit disruptive. I know some of this is related to the Super 35 vs full frame sensor but I'm wondering what your thoughts are concerning cutting in footage from the R6 and the C70, do you find the feel is different? And do you feel that the speed booster helps with making the footage more similar looking? Are there settings that you use to help if you use the camera in this way? From the R6 clip you used in this it does look a bit like the same difference. Any insight you had would be appreciated if you can speak from your experience with this. Thanks!
Hi Mate, I’ve used the R before and I think it does a lot of in camera sharpening which can’t be turned off. This is why the c70 or any Cinema camera looks softer since professional film cameras don’t do this. This way you have the flexibility to add sharpness in post to your liking. You can get the same DoF with the speedbooster yes. But hands down the c70 is a much better camera compared to the R/ R6 in terms of image quality and also how “organic” / “filmic” the footage of the c70 looks. The mirrorless cameras always look very digital
@@pauleporterdp Great, thanks for the explanation. After using these cameras I'm kind of used to the look/feel. Haven't really had any experience with the Cine cameras. Good to know. Look forward to your future videos!
Are you saying the EOS R looks better than the C70?
Does your 24-70 Tamron work with the Komodo’s Autofocus? Mine performs horribly. Gets stuck hunting constantly. Thanks!
No same story 😅 that’s why I totally switched to Cine lenses
@@pauleporterdp That’s what I was afraid of. Thanks for the response!
Hello! I'm using the Canon Mount Adapter with my Komodo, pairing it with the Canon EF 16-35 Mk III F/2.8.. while zooming in with the lens it decreases exposure. This is super frustrating and I'm trying to figure out why this would be the case on a constant f/2.8 aperture lens. Any info would be helpful thank you!
I see you tested the 16-35 in this video. Did you encounter this problem with the exposure not remaining constant while zooming?
Thanks for your feedback. Yes this is unfortunately a problem of the lens. My ef 24-70 2.8 also is not consistent 2.8
@@pauleporterdp really? I was told that the RF 24-70 did not have this problem. That’s so strange. Thanks for the reply
You’re welcome ☺️
In your IS test section you said you were using a Tamron 24-70? Was this the Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2? I ask because i would like to get this lens but several people have posted on facebook saying it does not work on komodo?
Yes I’m using this lens. AF doesn’t work on Komodo but IS works
@@pauleporterdp thanks
Great vid! I decided I'm going to build my whole kit one thing at a time based solely on your videos. If you never do a video about tripods, I just won't ever get one but I'll pretend like it's my "aesthetic choice".
Thanks man
Thank you very much for the review. Great
Thanks man I’m glad that you liked it
Thanks man, that really helped me Taking a decision.
Thanks for watching, glad that you like it
Can you control the iris/ f stop using the speedbooster? I heard the metabones one can
Sure Works without any issues
Thank you - great review! Does images stabilization on the Tamron work with the metabones rf-ef? Or is it only the auto focus that doesn't work?
I haven’t tried the metabones on the Komodo. So I can’t answer that.
can you use focal reducer with cine lens?
Yes of course. I use it all the time with my Schneider lenses
where do you get the @/canon0.71x focal reducer?
Teltec Germany
Thank you for this informative video! I purchased the Canon focal reducer, partially based on this video, and couldn't be happier.
That said, I have to ask you:
Does the autofocus work for you on the Komodo with the Tamron 24-70mm F2.8 G2?
I have that lens too, but I'm having a hard time controlling it from the Komodo or using it with Autofocus on the Komodo, both with the stock adaptor supplied with the camera and with that Canon focal reducer. For me, both the Tamron lenses (24-70mm + 70-200mm) and the Tokina 11-20mm F2.8, are stuttering when Komodo tries to control them wither through Autofocus or when driving manual focus through the Red Control app. I wonder if you are having the same issue.
Thanks man. Yes exactly it depends on the lens. My tamron AF doesn’t work at all and doesn’t matter with speedbooster or without. My sigma and canon lenses work great but the tamron doesn’t. Not sure what’s the issue but I think it’s the communication with the lens. I don’t have any other lens from another manufacturer to test. But as said canon and sigma works great.
@@pauleporterdp thanks. I spoke with Red today, and there might be good news coming soon via firmware. In the meantime, which lens do you recommend more (in terms of sharpness and overall quality) the Canon RF 24-105mm F4, or the Canon RF 35mm F1.8? Is one of them noticeably sharper?
Definitely the 35mm since it’s a prime.
But there is the question do you want best image quality or maximum flexibility. :)
Thanks for the info about RED :)
@@pauleporterdp I want a lens that will intercut seemlessly with my Tamron lenses, and those pack a lot of character through imperfect optics but still manage to be very sharp. I'm not sure if the 24-105 (Canon RF version) will be sharp enough to intercut with the Tamron 24-70mm G2 and 70-200mm G2, and the new Tokina 11-20mm.
From the samples I saw on TH-cam, it seems sharper than the older EF versions of the Canon L 24-105 F4, but still, kind of soft. On its own I don't mind it, but unsure as for how it will intercut with my other lenses.
Excellent video
Thanks mate really appreciate it :)
I'm wondering what about if you need NDs? you'll take like screw on filters? Cause Matte Box will probably result in reflections that you don't want between the 2 glass elements. It feels like I would go with the Kippertie Revolva for NDs but then, no Focal Reducer... thoughts?
I use the freewell variable nds and they work great. Sure the other solution is better but that’s the only way when using the adapter
Also, when will your Komodo review be out? Curious as to why you chose it over all of the other options!
I’m already working on it. I didn’t want making it too early. First of I wanted to shoot some projects and wanted to gather experience with it. But it should be online in February ☺️
Does it work with prime lenses? I have couple sigma primes.
Yes it does ;)
Hi. Have you tested the focal reducer at wide open f1.4 or wider? Is it still sharp?
Yes I have and yes it is ;)
GREAT VIDEO
NICE JOB
Thanks Nathan
Great video man, so about Sigma Art 18:35 with the adapter?
Thanks mate. The 18-35 doesn’t cover full frame it’s an APSC lens
@@pauleporterdp then I would have a result with a vignette 😣
Exactly
Hi Paule, I want to use this with the Irix 45 mm T 1.5 - It's a big and heavy cinema lens, about 1.1 kg or 2.4 lbs, so I'm mainly concerned about the sturdiness of the mounts. I mean both the RF mount on the Komodo itself, then the other two mounts on the speedbooster. What is your take on this?
Hi Mate. In this Case I would suggest to secure the Booster. Not sure If its so strong
Get lens support and rods my friend, otherwise slowly slowly you'll be damaging the lens mount on Komodo
Does this work with the Sigma 18-35? Or does the lens in front have to be full frame coverage?
No it has no full frame coverage
Hi Paule, the Metabones speed booster is cheaper, so is there a reason to pick the Canon one for the Komodo?
Sure because of the optical quality and it communicates with the lens so everything works as before
@@pauleporterdp Oh I didn't know that. Thanks a lot!
That’s what I explain at the end of the video ;)
@@pauleporterdp Very sorry haha, I did watch the video before when it was first released. I just forgot.
No worries ;)
4.01 - look at the difference in the way the face is rendered on full-frame - much flatter. Thanks for not saying the speed booster makes it full-frame. Nice review thanks.
Thanks for your feedback :)
Great video, thanks :) Do you think this would communicate (AF etc) with the Sigma Art 18-35 and 50-100mm? (On the Red Komodo). Thanks
Yes it does, I have these lenses as well ;)
This is my question. Do we have to buy a ND filter for this as well or can we use the ND that I bought with the EF adapter on the Komodo? I bought the camera with that adapter w ND Or does this stack onto the canon EF adapter?
No in this case you need a screw on filter. Since the Focal reducer is a different product then the ND filter Adapter
@@pauleporterdp Thank you very much! Love your information on your channel. =)
Where is the link to buy one
Just look at b&h ;)
How are you getting a lesser crop in 4K mode ? A Focal Reducer reduces the focal length of the 50mm x .71 and now the 50mm is like 35.5mm. If you had used the 35.5mm lens you would get the same. Why do you have to use a lens and make it wider with a speed booster where you could just use a wider lens - Unless your goal is to get more light or brighter image !
I mostly use Full Frame lenses and it also gives me the full frame look - shallow DoF on wide angle lenses
Can you stack it with the canon variable nd adapter?
No that doesn’t work
Which nato rail did you attach to the top of your outrigger handle at 5:27?
Hi Tyler, it’s a NATO rail from 8sinn it should be 85mm long or some number similar to that.
@@pauleporterdp Thanks so much!
You’re welcome
how do you secure it to the camera cage, and is it even possible to secure it to the cage?
It has a screw hole at the bottom so with some kind of lens support you can secure it
is the OIS working with sigma lens?
I don’t have a Sigma lens with IS but I think it should work
Does it mean it work with sigma prime lense?
this focal reducer + a 24-70 f2.8 L EF (and no IS), or a RF 24-70 2.8 IS for a red Komodo (and I'll be likely moving to a canon photo body to use the lens for both photo and video)?
Sorry but I don’t understand your question?
@@pauleporterdp I'm wondering which would be better for me on a red komodo, an EF canon l 24-70 and a focal reducer (the one shown in this video)
Or, a RF 24-70 L with IS
I’ve never used it with an RF glass but personally I like the wider FOV so I would go for the EF glass
Does it work with any cine zoom?
Yes it does.
Can it be used with EF-RF adapter on R5?
No since the R5 already has a FF sensor it would cause vignetting
@@pauleporterdp So no need to attach the adapter, speedbooster is enough.
@@mordavian No you can’t use a speedbooster on the R5.
Will this work with the Red scarlet w?
The red scarlet has no RF Mount.
Yea I know can an rf mount be put on a red scarlet? Are both cameras super 35?
Yes but it won’t work since you will stack 2 adapters of each other
@@pauleporterdp ok thanks. I’m trying desperately to get ff without paying the 5k upgrade.
just got the idea lol and found your video
Thanks for watching ;)
@@pauleporterdp you're welcome
who in the film world actually cares around a perfectly sharp image though...?
That’s the point ;)
Sorry, but that adapter looks awful.
Thanks for your feedback ;)