This is why you lose to slow defense
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 INTRO
2:38 DISCORD
3:24 OMEN HAVEN ASCENDENT 3
27:07 NOTES
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Hi, Hooj! I have been wondering, what if you'll play against team who make you info starved and you don't have agents to fight for space or gather info efficiently. Does this mean you lose defense with no chance or there is a way I miss to counter this without proper pick?
If you face a team that plays perfect valorant and you have a suboptimal comp you will lose.
Fortunately absolutely no one plays perfect valorant in soloQ, even in high Radiant.
Figure out what they're doing wrong and try to play against that. There's no one thing I can suggest without seeing a VOD, every team will make different mistakes.
@ Woohoojin. Insightful response because you can't flow chart valorant. What can you do if you're team wont stop deathball running at round start? Play with them and bait the trades; try to lurk; try to force enemy attention elsewhere with util/sound so enemy can't rotate for free; try to coordinate a util play on the deathball?
yoru tp to spawn and ace every round hood luck
@@bloodcraver9183 dude you just said "you can't flow chart valorant" and asked hooj to flowchart valorant
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hooj somehow always has different advice for every single player, not only that but he often PREDICTS what advice he needs to give after just a few rounds lmao
This man is insane we need to contain the potassium wisdom before he becomes too powerful
One time I smoked like this and whole team started to scream and rage why I smoke like this. When I explained to them they still didn't understand and were tilted...
This happens a lot. People don't realize that smokes don't always have to be closest to the enemy in every situation. If anything, it's predictable and opponents just walk past your CT or heaven smoke because they know you're not holding it. With entryway smokes, opponents have to carefully cross or lose space.
Awesome video, I'm also an asc 3 omen main and I thought this video was very insightful to me. There were abunch of point that I hadn't considered, I'm liking these higher elo vods. 👍
I've started watching your videos lately and boy it's a treat, I'm dia3 trying to get better and I can see some mistakes that I keep doing and you pointing it out in other people's VODs.
Thank you for your videos woohoojin
The only channel where I don't skip the intro, damn it's good!
Day 116 of thanking and appreciating Woohoojin for his educational and informative valorant content.
aww thanks gang
Appreciate the support bro.
Great video, really enjoyed the attacking half. I am peak Ascendant 2 right now and really want to get Immortal, that's my goal. I started watching you a few days ago and I feel like I am learning so much. Hope I can translate it into my games!
Have you made it to Immortal?
Yo woohoojin, the coachings great and stuff but the highlight of the vid for me is that make punk phantom rad buddy combo, that is CLEAN
This is exactly the answer I've been looking for.
I always struggle with passive defensive team that love the wait game. My usual answer for those team is usually late lurk and trying to get a pick which is obviously a problem since oftentimes I'll be the last one standing while my mates just got done it out of nowhere in like 1 second flat.
Still being a Brim main I still have my doubts on wasting a smoke as decoy...
Because of your videos I got from iron 2 to silver 2 in just a week after watching your vids
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i just want to say that within 3 days of watching your videos/implementing your training methods I saw major improvements nearly instantly in aim and decision making and am continuing to improve these further (currently struggling in silver 3) so thank you...
This is gonna help so much
The discord ad alone made me sub and join your discord. Amazing content 😂
I've literally gotten leaps and bounds better in the 2 days since i found your channel, and I was already immortal. Blown away at the quality of this
Ive only countered passive defense in the way you just taught it a handful of times and didn't understand what I was doing right, so Im glad someone finally put it into words for me. I remember a game I was playing with 4 of my friends and we were down by decent amount of rounds. I told everyone else to just play default, get info, and we'll hit a site depending on how the enemy reacts. The enemy team played incredibly passive because they had no recon, and theyre only method of getting info was standing out on long and holding it. All it took was a few uses of misdirection, my team making their way to site without giving themselves away, and we had every round in the bag. The more momentum we gained, the easier the gunfights became, and before long, we had the entire match. Very helpful tip that I'll pass along to my friends!
thanks talking banana for showing that luigi video thing, i am now totally radiant by afk-ing all my games
if you put the a main smoke on the stairs you got a small space to still see as attacker but it stops behind the box for defense; so it looks like its a normal smoke but you dont have to push the smoke yourself
Your old spice parody ad made me cackle, thanks for making great educational content!
the shameless free vod review plug was funny, kudos to you for making it
one of my favourite smokes on this map if ik they dont have sentinel util on b is an omen smoke on the entrance that allows u to smoke on either side, forcing them to either hold in the smoke or hold both sides of it
Love your content Hooj. Been meaning to ask this for a while now but what do you think is the best way to improve if I only have 2hrs of actual valorant playtime per week? I’m focusing on my studies right now but don’t want to be known as the rusty one.
"Thats when you need to incorporate *half a second pause* teammates" most true statement ever
i learned so much from you banana EVEN AS A DUELIST MAIN!!
THANK YOU hooj I feel like my defense is weaker and as a result I lose matches
Mister bonana your videos have helped me to start actually UNDERSTANDING the game, T H A N K Y O U I WAS SO LOST
Thanks for the vid Hooj! Just did a comback from 3-9 and won abuseing this. The enemy just kept pushing the smokes after wasting all initiator util and gave us free kills.
When using the info denial smoke on A long and C as demonstrated in the video, what do you do if you get a pick from them pushing? Since you don’t have any smokes do you wait till your smokes are back up and then push, or do you just explode on site? Also what if you don’t get the pick, do you ideally still push site or wait for smokes? (I know you can’t predict everything that will happen, but in a general sense what are you hoping to accomplish)
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So this is how i've been getting rolled by teams on defense
Thanks for the omen tips fellow banana man
ty for your videos
I took a break from val climbing and watching val content for a while after hitting immortal... but now that mlg woohoojin is on the start of these videos I must come back..
Enemy omen picking the team up onto his back to secure the third round for them with an clutch ace, while also getting his first 5 kills of the game
you're truly a genius
7:00 wait that omen sprayed during the TP to throw off Fade wtf that tech is insane.
The Luigi reference LMAO I always love whenever and wherever that comes up :)
I'm a new-ish viewer Wooj but I see what everyone's talking about! I hope to get out of gold eventually; will be watching you more religiously now ;)
hooj is literally a proud dad
Very cool now I can tell my smoke player where to smoke
Latest intro to vid is fire ngl
I have come for the video, but now leave for the VOD to absorb ALL THE INFO IN THE WORLD
I swear to god this guy is the smartest valorant coach I ve seen
Bro when I started watching your videos I was silver 1 and now I'm ascendant 3 close to immortal thank you so much
i'm also pushing to immortal thanks to hooj
then i will uninstall and enjoy life
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I was hard stuck gold for like 4 straight acts before I started watching the banana. After a 6-month break from ranked it took me a month to hit plat and I've won 10 of my last 11 games. Where/how to plant, gunfight hygiene, the concept of refragging, when to look at minimap etc. are probably second nature to diamond+ but I understood none of these correctly. My execution of these concepts is still lacking but at least I'm improving on them. Honestly, anyone who's "hard-stuck" can learn from this channel. Working on my pre-rounding/comms so I can submit a VOD for review.
Mean while my teammate: if you smoke A long once more, I'll throw
God I always have to tell my teammates to go 2 short. We got screwed so many times over this. I'm glad I heared it from Woohoojin and its not only my opinion :D
Almost gonna hit asc,let me go live and hit in stream❤😂
Would you be able to time stamp when the intro bits pls
E.g. if the intro shows 17:30 mins part can u highlight that in the timestamps
What is the song playing at the end of the discord ad?
Yes very good information for a reyna main
Can we get some astra vod review ❤
where could i find the spreedsheet with the pro agent players?
As an omen one trick I gotta study this guy lol
you're not wrong about needing to com the split on A attack. Sometimes i have to remind people 3 times per half.
Does Hooj have a recommend paid coach list? Like coaches he thinks would be worth paying for?
classic coach W vid 😎
Love my big daddy hooj. Fav part of this video- "you peice of shit your Reyna os calling a fake before you" lol
12:20 as an omen main that would probably explain why haven is my best map......
I FINALLY UNDERSTAND HOW TO PUSH A SITE AND THE PURPOSE OF AGENTS AND SMOKES (im plat 1)
How to win attack against the ennemi defenders that don't pick/don't push + have no agents that can gather infos or take space effectively or no flashes etc etc (when i had reyna on breeze and got carried by chamber viper sage) ---> ask controller to put space taking smokes : they either push it to see whats up, or they still do nothing and we can contact explode a site and fight 5 vs 2 or 3. With omen etc, put smokes on the entry choke point or something similar, with viper put orbs and wall to cross (those on lotus) and on breeze i guess put the a wall during preround and then the orb mid (tout ça dans l'intro, + de 19:31 à 25:30
especially in defense, if you win with normal valorant plays, don't change a thing their is no need to do weird or crazy new move or agression whatsoever 9:49 to 11:35
In attack, the defenders were stacking the site they were hitting. But kept pushing because omen blinded 2. Have to follow the call and the flash, it's very advantageous (easy 2 kills). But most importantly, if you rotate they will know and reset and you will have less spells to hit the new site
Common Wooohoojin W
i have a really bad understanding of movemant and peeking. watched all the peaking videos. I know if u hug the wall with ur back u slice the pie. if u infront of the choke point you ferrari peak. but i feel like i am ether peaking into multiple people or my movement is very shit and i am getting 1tap when i am trying to slow peak . where do i use which method. how can i avoid to get 1taped? and how to i train my aim strafing, i need way to long to place my crosshair on the enemys head. iam peak d2 after watching the vids im stuck g3 xD
I think these 'risky aggression against econ' rounds are trying to farm mmr via k/d. I am tempted by the idea quite often.
how does this guy have TP and Smoke on the same bind
I’m hardstuck bronze 2 and after watching a few vids I made it to silver. The asc starts somehow work down here lol
At this point ive seen so many ppl use “loose” incorrectly that “lose” looks weird in the title lmao
someone tell woohoojin i said "hey"
O woohoojin is a Alpharad enjoyer W
So is crouch shooting still bad? Like has the gunfight hygiene situation changed?
Because in High elo, people tend to shoot for heads and crouching throws off their crosshair. Although, crouching is only applicable during mid distance fights. Usually, high ranks do burst shots, strafe, then crouch.
Yesss a controller vod, I love this as a controller main.
never knew hooj was a jacked black dude
hooj saying that it's not supposed to replicate the high elo strats and me working my ass off trying to understand the shit out of it to do it in my platinum games XD
yeah tell my plat/diamond teammates smokes that take space is good for team. Most of the time you get called names for "blocking vision" or they die pushing it... and then you get called names.
if i was the omen that game, their jett would have gotten at least 3 and lived
or my team just runs it down b and throws the game ;)
please stop giving me free information, it's too expensive and my brain is overflowing with knowledge.
I want to do the free vod review, but I play too many types of agents and I can't really decide on one class of agents to stick to...
U just gotta pick man, try one for most of one season and see if it fits your playstyle. Where do you want to be when hitting a site? First, second, third or later? Do you wanna hold flank more often?
@Dorian Burger I want to do both. And I do both on controller and sentinel. But sometimes I just wanna run stuff down as duelist so I go Reyna/Phoenix. Or my team has no flashes, so I go Skye...
What I play really is dependent on how I feel that day, and what my teammates pick.
@@Prezzix try to narrow it down. One character thats super aggressive and one thats rather passive. Stop caring about team comp, its not that important.
@@dorianburger3300 I have lost too many games to my team comp being bad, and won too many to the enemies being bad to not care about it. And I am not going to pick one character to be aggressive on and another to be passive. I pick characters based on the util they bring, what maps they work really well on, whether we have a flash agent or not. I can not just lock in an agent, and be like welp I guess we probably lose, when I see 3 other duelists with sage. Not unless I am on my alt account, playing alone. (I play with an insta lock jett player.)
@@Prezzix then dont be suprised that you wont rank up efficiently. Its that simple
I don’t know how to defend teams that rush and Util dump on offence. My team and I just get overwhelmed and die fast. Try to play retake but so hard. S1
4 months old vid so idk if Hooj still responses, but in case anyone saw this, could you explain why Hooj places the A long smoke over the box instead of aligning with it?
Sheesh
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I'm on a gaming chair!!!!
0:35 this screws my teams mental so hard i am scared to throw it lol even if i k its good lol
Question: at 2:08 why does the game say Omen assisted the kill on Jett?
My guess is that the game understands that util is placed and used to assist players on your team through comms. If this is true how does that work for situations where a smoke is thrown but not necessarily to 'assist' a kill of the enemy and instead used to deny info or reduce the priority to peak angles?
If someone dies shortly after walking out of a smoke omen gets the assist. Or if they’re inside it too probably. I think this works for most smoke agents. there’s probably just a timer that runs and if they die within X seconds afterward it counts.
If you watch the minimap jett pushes out of the smoke and runs into 4 gamers ready to fire
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bro hooj are you really trying to bring back mlg lmaooo i respect the commitment but i think you are the only one whos trying to bring it back
Mlg?
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@@dorianburger3300 lmao wut we’re the same age, nvm lol
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This guy is say plat as a noob .. me watching as a silver player 😂
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bro i remember watching skillcapped and proguides thinking my aim was the problem but you finally got me to realize that my brain is so small. thanks mr banana