Does Stephen A. have reason to believe in the Suns? ➡️ NO! WHY?! 🗣️ | First Take
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- Does Stephen A. have reason to believe in the Suns? ➡️ NO! WHY?! 🗣️ | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Shannon Sharpe and Tim Legler talk through the state of the Dallas Mavericks, along with their confidence level in the Phoenix Suns.
0:00 76ers over Mavericks
3:11 Believe in the Suns?
6:39 Concerns about Phoenix
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Man Shannon was the only reason I watched Undisputed
I literally thought the same, it’s CRAZY how he carried that show
Hella true, me the same
It’s a tough watch now. I don’t even bother checking clips out anymore lol
I enjoy it tbh
Legler shooting his shot for Club Shay Shay 11:23 🤣
Bro was THIRSTING FRFR💀
He aint said nothing but a word to Shannon rubbing them hands when he brought up that vsop lmaoooo
I think it will work. Legs always brings it.
Agree with Legler - The Suns have fantastic players, but the lack of flow/ chemistry along with the injuries are preventing them from going forward.
Vogel needs to start Roy'ce Oneil, with Nurk, KD, Book & Beal but Vogel is a idiot
@@billwill6754facts the suns took the lead last night next thing I know Beal is on bench and the lineup that was out there was doodoo outside of Durant it was awful
Vogel refuses to matchup with the right combination of players, especially with that defenseless 3 guard starting lineup.
lol this like the first time in years KD played the most games out of any star on his team lemme not jinks em
Has lol😂
I love the 2 never married men giving relationship advice 😂😂
😂😂😂
i think someone who has avoided the dread of being stuck in miserable marriage has the most rights to explain how to be happy in relationships.
@@T1Earnwhat about someone in a good marriage
You wont be hearing from them. @@100ovrbatmanbron7
Do you have to be married to give relationship advice? Married advice yes!! Most definitely! Relationship? No! This went way over to the left bc we extreme on everything!!
Expecting a team with a Luke/Kyrie backcourt to play defense is crazy😂
KD doesn't have that "extra" thing SAS was looking for because on his 2 rings, they were always the TOP DOG with huge gap.
That extra thing only pop out when the competition is almost equal in talent or when in dire situation.
Yep. KD is a great player but he’d likely have 0 rings had he never joined GS. That’s just fact. He CANNOT handle physicality. Lou Dort had him shook. It’s ALWAYS been like that. In GS, the mastery of Curry and Klays movement along with Draymond IQ, allowed KD to operate with minimal bodies on him. Throw a double his way and he’s shook.
Couldn’t have said it any better my brother.. you’re spot on..
@@haywood0457Lou dort had him shook? Kd was doubled on the catch. Teammates were not taking advantage of it. You don’t know ball at all. Kd been getting doubled his entire career.
@@brendanbloom3366 lol. PHX had 21 TWENTY ONE turnovers. KD 6-15 5 turnovers. Lou and the doubles had him shook. Like I said, he cannot handle physicality. That includes multiple bodies thrown at him. He makes hurried decisions and he’s not a great passer.
@@haywood0457 kd is a top 15 player in the history of the nba my guy. I love how you think YOU…. You can rewrite history. That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Shannon face at 3:26 is hilarious he can’t believe how fast Stephen A changes his mind💀😂
His entire tirade was hilarious.
Wasn't there a heavyweight match between the Wolves and the Clippers last night? Cover it.
And Celtics vs Warriors. They are so selective these days
@@WrdtoMuva They cover that one.
@@WrdtoMuva they did cover warriors and Celtics...
@@onidtubesthey only talk about the Clippers when they Lose
@@WrdtoMuva Warriors aren't heavy weights.
Legs dropped "Da Mic"!
I had been thinking about the lack of point guard play with Phoenix.
Nothing seems to be easy for the Suns in my opinion.
This is what it is
I wish SAS would apologize for saying Kevin Durant was EVER the best player on the planet!
True he never was
@@terrycools6731 bruh was saying he was the best for yearssssss even when he got swept by the Celtics now he switched up
@@CoolTy23 Because he was one 3 pointer away from ending the champs by himself in 2021 after an achilles tear. The Celtics series was bad coaching and everyone with a brain who isnt a KD hater could've saw that.
@@smoothsavage2870 bad coaching? The Cs locked tf out of durant. He faced the same coverages curry faced in 19 against the raptors and crumbled like a stack of cards
@@smoothsavage2870 don’t be suprised when the Suns get smacked in the playoffs this years & he requests ANOTHER trade
Yall couldnt said more about okc but thank you legs for at least mentioning the OKC
The suns could've used tyus Jones
They needed tyus cause book ain't it at all
🎯
Kd would be Carmelo if he never joined gsw
You can’t just assume things like that.
Nahhhh man lmaooo KD has MVPs scoring titles, all NBA selections. more counting stats than melo and KD has actually made the finals with OKC. Plus KD is hands down the better player
KD won a league MVP and more scoring titles and made it to a Finals.. Melo didn't achieve KD status while he was a Member of OKC so this is stupid
@jvtopflight796 my response to that argument is when did Melo play with another mvp in his prime? His prime year on the Knicks were wasted because he didn't have another teammate. And they were in the same conference as the heatles. KD on okc had Westbrook and Harden. On GSW he had steph curry. Melo for the most part had to do it on his own.
@@drmarkmadarang Excuses.. KD won MVP the year Russ was injured.. Russ won a MVP after KD left.. So KD did not play with another MVP to reach his 1st Finals.. You are confused on timelines and development.. KD was the MVP of OKC..
It’s funny how one day the Suns are the team to beat they lose and they’re the worst team in the league lol. The West is tough and the team to still beat is Denver. As a Suns fan I’m worried about how they keep losing to teams that’s under 500. Losing to OKC that’s the number 1 seed without Book is not concerning to me. OKC is good.
I was durant biggest critic about going to GS. But i also said hey youre already there might as well just stay and rack up rings
Been down on my Suns all yr long. Never healthy & it irks me because I knew this would happen (Beal). KD is all world, but he doesn’t will his team to victories w/o Book. Been in a slump
Asking if KD learned something from GSW is ridiculous, homie literally went there so he could be a role player in a already championship team.. only thing he learned was try to stack teams with league MVPs
Sad but true smh
That role player was by far their best player. He didn’t learn about stacking teams from gs he learned that watching Lebron do it.
@@brendanbloom3366 they best player was the one that was getting double steamed that every coach said they were more worried about in Steph
@@cw1229 It doesn't matter what the coaches said. the reality is that GSW choked and embarrassed themselves by losing in the finals after going 79-9 and blowing a 3-1 lead to the cavs. Bron has them shook and they ran to KD for help and he out played Bron and everyone else on the floor including curry. That's the reason he won finals MVP both times
@@cw1229the only coach that said that was Ty Lue. If you watched all of their playoff games you would know that.
I’m going to need some of this cognac they talking about
I'm a KD fan, but it seems as though he just out there, he don't have that drive anymore. This era of LeBron, Paul, Durant is coming to an end.
You got cats like SAG, Joker, Wemby, Tatum, Giannis, Embid.....the league should focus on those guys.
have you not been watching the suns. The coach is awful.
LEBRON NOT DONE
@@AA_lcfcthis guys an idiot. He don’t watch games. Kd plays hard every night and unselfish. He got doubled in the catch all night and his teammates don’t cut and than the coach blew the game by resting kd 7 minutes if the 4th and than benching Beal and nurk for drew and Lee.
he get superstars on his team like beal, book or harden, kyrie. instead of just getting a traditional team, which is usually better imo
@@coreythomas3633 Bron is getting his points But his scoring isn't translating Into the Lakers winning. Bron is done as a player that can carry a team to the finals
Tim “vsop” Legler over here…. Next he’s gonna request Prodigy/Mobb Deep verses 😂😂😂
Kd’s my guy but he was just clowning talkin bout “leadership, leadership” but he throws his head back every time the teams down or makes a bad play.
Suns are literally the mavs without the depth 😂😂
Who’s your Mavs third scorer that can drop 30 at any moment? 🤦♂️🤡
If prime Nash was playing with these guys, that'd be an orchestrator that would set a nice table.
If Dallas can up their intensity in defending the perimeter than they going to be a tough out in the playoffs but their ceiling is a Conference Finals appearance.
All I know is when LBJ was 35 he was in championship contention. Kd isnt 1/5 the player of Lebron
You mean when he was extremely lazy on defense and AD was the best player in his team?
Healthy Suns still a team you don't want to face in the playoffs. Kd and Book have already proven what they can do when its time to shine
And what is that😂🤷♀️😂 the time to shine is in the playoffs to a championship 🤦♂️ not regular season games
Talent wise, this year’s Suns team is an upgrade from the year before. However, their lack of chemistry, like Legs said, is gonna come back to haunt them.
Either they’re getting knocked out by the Nuggets again, or a team like those top teams.
@@tmc31390very good assessment but I think it’s mostly from the health. If they played together I think they would of been ok chemistry wise
You guys don’t play defense, compared to the first four teams in the West and add Boston. Phx is as frightening as a box of kittens.
@@alex4863 i am not a suns fan btw, i am just speaking from a neutral perspective
Bro i love when legs in the lineup 😤
10:05 that was a direct message to the media and fans. DEAL With IT!!!!
I REALLY wanna see the Suns win it all so KD can shut the haters up. But this team is cooked. And Frank Vogel needs to go. The reason he won in 2020 was because he had 3 bigs that he could pack the paint with to make his defense great. He doesnt have that with this roster, so his system just doesnt work for this team.
And they can say what they want about Monty Williams, but he was the one who knocked Vogel out of the playoffs in 2021. The Suns really thought they were doing something by hiring Vogel.
@@tmc31390 Idk what they were thinking with that hire. Especially since the personnel doesnt match his gameplan/schemes.
Outside of Allen, Gordan, and Jursef with some effort. Phx is like Dallas from a defensive perspective they just don’t clamp down.
Naming some of their worst defenders. Do you even watch this team? Kd bol bol O’Neal and okogie are there positive defenders.
Let’s face it Beal and book have both not been available it’s just sad KD get stuck with these type of team mates
He's always done this same thing. He chose to go to Brooklyn and team up with Kyrie the most inconsiderate and fickle player in the league. Then he was in support of the nets training for another shaky star harden and looked at how all that fell apart man . He's gonna spend his last couple of productive seasons as a star on a team thats never healthy
Much better without Molly and sas flirting 🤦🏻♂️
At this point in kd career just get him to the post season they gonna be fine
There is a personal issue with SAS and Perk going at KD about leadership. Its a reason why no one else agrees with them on this issue. They are dealing with a multitude of injuries and they have no point guard to establish a proper flow of the offense. Book is playing out of place because he's a shooting guard. Leadership is the least of their issues.
KDs biggest issue is he's not a leader and he's proven that with the bad moves he's made. It's like he can't make a decision for himself and let's people sway his thoughts.
Still riding with the Sun’s they’ll get right watch 😤🏆
Facts
SAS fresh out of JCPenney
History will always knock Kevin Durant for leaving the Warriors. He left because he couldn't take people teasing him about joining a 73 win team. He'd have 5 rings by now, but will end his career with 2.
Nah i would have lakers beating them in 2020 warriors didn’t have a dominant center and still don’t
KD is a great player but he’d likely have 0 rings had he never joined GS. That’s just fact. He CANNOT handle physicality. Lou Dort had him shook. It’s ALWAYS been like that. In GS, the mastery of Curry and Klays movement along with Draymond IQ, allowed KD to operate with minimal bodies on him. Throw a double his way and he’s shook.
@@haywood0457he just rather move the ball instead of making something out of nothing with the double but he’s old bro lol
@@haywood0457 I agree with you. But coming off two championships, and would've had a third if not for the injury, I think KD was feeling himself way too much. Remember, the media was calling him the best player in the NBA. Then he went from making one bad decision right into another one when he joined Kyrie who, by then, had shown himself to be selfish, self-centered, and unreliable. Had he won 5 he "might" have been in the GOAT discussion?
@@cane2486 Bruh, you've got your pimpin wrong. The Lakers did win in 2020. Remember, that's the year they won the "Mickey Mouse" trophy...when there were no fans, no home court advantage, and half the league's players didn't go to Disneyland because they were afraid of contracting Covid.
For someone who will constantly remind you of his high Basketball acumen...SAS does a lot of backtracking
Can we hold the Luka talk for MVP please .....
Tbf hes playing well Jason Kidd can't coach
Spoken like someone with no idea about basketball at all just a social media sports watcher
@@redz8274spoken like a deadweight of society.
Not when they keep losing.
The whole Dallas team (including luka) have zero defense down the stretch. Luka gets blown by or screened and gives up a ton of points.
Suns in a nutshell- 3 talented guys surrounded mostly by 3rd string players
I thought Book running point was their brilliant master plan😂
Gaffey? C’mon Stephen A😂 Put some respect on Daniel Gafford
coach needs to play gafford and lively more
It’s weird, between KD, Beal, Book, and Nurkic, the Suns have plenty of difference-making players. But for some reason it feels like they’re always underperforming
Bol Bol for the starting 5
the team is trash. You should prioritise good complimentary team building over stacking stars. none of the players compliment each other and they have no size or defense. there is a reason why they were a better team with chris paul and mikal bridges.
More of Legs please. . . More 🏀 analysis instead of the usual entertainment.
Markeif Morris 2 Dallas should bring some Defensive tenacity
Chemistry is the biggest issue I know I ain’t no where these guys, but when I played ball. Our team was horrible everyone was out of sync, but towards the end of the season everyone adjusted and finally seen what the team was fully capable of. I’m afraid time is just about out for the suns they need to all be on the floor for atleast 15-20 games. To atleast scrape by in the playoffs depending how fast they learn.
I want to c a Mavs-Celtics matchup idc whose home court fully healthy 👀
I didn't know these "men" were on the Suns' roster to know about KD's leadership with the team this year
Always wondered the hype of the mavs like did they not look who they beat and who the teams were missing ? Like my god I wonder how some of these guys have jobs
What about Nick Nurse being an ok Coach?
As a suns fan it’s actually over. I could cry. I just wish we could win. This town needs it
lol just relax playoffs SAS would be d*ck riding again n those young teams (wolves n okc) not going no where🤷🏾♂️
ESPN deserves an award for having shows that talk about sports of which most members never played. They manage to find topics to discuss which have 0 impact on the actual sport.
Don’t most people not play basketball professionally. It’s not like most people’s discussion has any impact.
KD is a great scorer. Nothing more. Not a good defender, not a good leader, not a good athlete. Wake up!
I love First Take when Molly is absent
YO FACTZ!!!!!!!
😂😂😂
And she’s off all week thank God!!
I'd rather molly than follar store Jada picket but this show doesn't need a host
4:43 for what it’s worth mans tore his Achilles. I think it’s insane to think he can do what he once did
A lot of tough shots! Shannon was right and all of y’all bashed him! Shame on yall
Sometimes I wonder why I watch this
No mention of book is crazy kd gets the benefit of the doubt of being the best player just cause of his name this team will go as Devin booker goes suns have two superstars
Kd is by far the best player on the suns and it’s not just cuz of his name it’s cuz of his game. Book is amazing as well.
Not trying to hate on Jason Kidd but Rick Carlisle is a top tier coach. Look at what he's doing in Indiana. Cuban shouldn't have fired him.
Then on the flip side people will talk about the Lakers beating Bucks without LeBron last night and say never count them out... It's one game. Basketball has this happen all the time.
Shannon has never been high on KD since he thwarted Lebron’s title hopes in the late 2010s lol
They need Davis and Embiid to complete the All-Glass-Team
If kds on your team of course you have a chance is crazy we got so called fans who forget what he does 💀
no disrespect but KD has always been a great player but I just never saw him as great like Kobe LeBron or even Steph but he's good I just never understood the hype especially since he joined and left GSW now if he had won in OKC I would have said yes he's great but I don't see it
See Christina know how to be a cohost not like Molly she needs to be on first take permanent
🦵!!!! More LEGS!
2:28 pause
Watching Luka makes me really appreciate Rockets Harden, Harden was doing everything Luka is doing now and more with even better stats and worst players and yet he was always pulling out 60 wins and heading to the playoffs. Luka is a middle class man’s James Harden.
I would aim for the play in if I were the suns. They can take okc or the wolves in the first round
PHX fan here i been saying dbook wasn’t a PG i got chewed out by everyone now look at what’s going on no rhythm in the offense it’s your turn my turn between the big 3
ESPN only talk about the Mavs when they’re doing badly.
Phoenix should still try to move Bradley Beal even if they somehow pull off a finals win. Beal should be satisfied with a ring and can go back to being the man on his own team and then Phoenix can move him for an ACTUAL point guard and try to upgrade from Nurkic too
Brooklyn nets all over again lmaoo
Nets were going to likely win the championship if not for injuries
But they didn't @@brendanbloom3366
@@brendanbloom3366 this is real life not "likely world". KDs biggest mistake was joining Kyrie who's known as the most innocent player not on the court but with the moves he makes off the court.
SAS acting like KD didn't lose to the NBA champions in 2 of his 3 playoff losses
The TRUE question is who does he need to hold accountable???? Because the answer is the Coach & GM, tell the GM they need a PG. Tell the owner the coach isn’t working out. Do this & watch the results. Stop just telling him an action with no direction
I thought Brooklyn was gonna be the biggest what if (kyrie,KD, harden)but nawl it's this phoenix if they don't ever play together.
The sad part of the Suns was they could have just kept Cam Payne, while he’s not the best PG he still can give direction. The suns have no direction
true but they will need more than that anyway, I get your point though
@@kaysheye7784 don’t disagree, they went from a team that “could” make it to the finals to one that most likely will be bounced in a play in game. So just an average PG isn’t going to fix the problems they created
@@scotturich the irony in all of this is that keeping CP3 wouldn't have been such a bad idea even if he's only paying 15-20 minutes a night because he's washed. Issue is that he, too, is often injured just like Beal
Sas criticize Lebron more for not being in the dunk contest then kd under performing without gsw.
They need pj Tucker
Everyone but Mavs fans can see the backcourt doesn't play defense
Shay Shay called KD a female
SA hates the mavericks
Besides the warriors all of kd teams been injured
Do people actually think the Mavs are gonna do anything in the playoffs?
I don’t! I think they will make the playoffs and lose in the 1st round 😀👍
if kd take is the goat they should win the title every year
All we been hearing for the last five years is Durant not playing enough with his teammates due to injury. Seems like he's picking the wrong teams. One thing for sure is Durant doesn't want the role of leader. He's content with what he has already accomplished.
And that will be his downfall…
The Suns remind me of wheel of fortune. When it stops who will be out next game
makes me think about LBJ godly numbers that lead 2 looses
If KD really wants another chip, ask for a trade to Minnesota. KD for KAT and whatever else to make it work. He could win with that team , but not with Pheonix.
🗣️WHO THIS FOR??? LAKERS AN THE SUNS 😢😢😢😢😢
Sun's front office is fine. Frank Vogel is a good coach. But players display no leadership nor do they seek one while looking at one another for consideration.
PHO will make moves in FA & Draft but, will not trade KD; that's a Disaster, just need 1/ 2 players to help KD more in the Paint.😮
Kd playing outta position is the biggest thing especially if you don’t have a small squad like if him and Paul George was the same you could start him at the 4 but there 3 is trash Beal was in and out the lineup they need bigs Drummond would’ve helped get a power forward and keep Kd book and Beal with 60 games then talk to me
Soon as the suns win a couple of games then sas going to flip again thats all he do he big a player up then tear them down at the same time
SUNs IS NOT WINNING NO CHIP WITHOUT A GOOD STARTING POINT GUARD & PHYSICAL BIG MAN
Suns are just never healthy. All these games you see of them when one of the stars is injured does NOT represent how they’re supposed to be seen. They don’t have the point guards to make up for when one of them are out. Every other top team in the West has had all their starters playing for a significant period of time, except Suns. That’s the ONLY reason they’re not a higher seed, and everyone knows it. They’ve played 23 games together.
Dallas might as well used that pick to get Dorian Finney smith back that’s who they need not gafford
Simple, J Kidd stop used the 2 centers they added..!
Durant lost me when he got swept by a team who curry defeated to get 4 ring.. that caused durant to destroy his career smh