I mean, there are no games yet. And you can only talk about “what impact either Tatum/Brown/Luka/Kyrie have on the game” so many times when there’s a 2 hour show to fill 5 days a week
It actually isn't though lol the narrative is actually that lebron gets carried by whomever he plays with. Dwade, Ray Allen, Kyrie, and now AD have all either saved Lebron's legacy or carried him at this point according to the media. 😅 Lol that's insane. One shot always matters more than the whole game when it comes to LeBron. Nobody is confused about Dwade being a dawg 🤷🏾♀️
Exactly. He comes up with all the topics. It's crazy how he picks everything that lebron talks about on his show to come on this hsow to talk about it 😂😂😂. He be watching that show like crazy😂😂😂
@@dariusgumbs7143 SAS be hating on Bron so bad cuz Bron dont show him love like other NBA players do. SAS swears he got sooooo much stain in the NBA, yet the face of it dont F wit him lol
Lebron wasn't a winner when he went to Miami without Miami lebron isn't the same.player in Cleveland. Yall say it's hating like what, he jus speaking facts lmao
@@crudogang4652 He wasn’t a winner because the best second option the Cavs got him was Mo Willams. Who won with Mo Willams as their second option again?
@datsapaddlin nd also it doesn't mean that lebron is less of a player of anything. He is still arguably the best of all time but at the same time I'm not gonna sit here nd act like he had it all together throughout his whole career, he got help frm vets and there's nothing wrong with that at all lol.
Cus they got injured naturally. Dray getting suspended was artificially done. Dray shoulda been gone during the okc series but the NBA didnt want to treat them bc they was up 3-1
@@goodcompanyman the bs yall manage to come up with to defend the warriors blowing a 3-1 lead is crazy. Dray still played games 6 and 7. Bron dropped 40 with and without dray playing lmao. The Warriors had two games at home and lost. Pls be quiet.
@@goodcompanyman Love ain’t play in game 3 with all the Warriors players playing. That was their chance to go up 3-0 and seal the series but they fumbled. Draymond got too many techs and that’s why he got suspended. His antics came back to hurt the team just like this regular season.
@@hoeelanderyeah cus Bogut got hurt in game 5. Maybe if dray is there, that play doesnt happen. Adams got kicked in the nuts multiple times much harder during that wcf but the NBA didnt do anything because okc was up 3-1 Lebron instigated and dray tapped bron and that resulted in suspension. There is no way you think they couldve won that series after watching how the first 4 games played out. Props to bron for taking advantage of the situation. But NBA rigged that for sure for suspending Green which was a build up from the WCF.
@@datsapaddlinthe interaction between bron and green in that game 4 was mild at best and the game was over. Dray’s kicks on adams were flagrant 2 type acts by even then standard. Bron and cavs did their job taking advantage of the situation but i am sure if OKC was down 1-3, they wouldve gotten dray suspended. But NBA didnt do any
Tbh I think Shannon probably would've somewhat agreed with Stephen A. Even Shannon said LeBron probably would dominate the league but he also said the reason he's in the GOAT conversation is because he went to Miami and "learned how to win" Shannon said that himself
So glad Windy mentioned that Kyrie and Love were hurt during Golden States 1st Championship. Because Stephen A always mention Draymond being suspended during the 2nd Finals and it being a Stimulus package but he never mentions how the Warriors got a Stimulus package with both Kyrie and Love being out pretty much the entire 1st Finals between the Cavs and the Warriors.
Not all narratives by the media. Lebron has credited D-Wade for making him better, whether its being accountable or taking the lead, he showed him the way. He has said he needed him. You can google. Steph saving KD or KD saving the Warriors are narratives.
SAS just stating what happened that is not hating that’s like he said it’s a fact I agree with that take he was mentally a mess after the decision and needed Dwade both on and off court to help him learn what takes to win
Nonsense. In the 1st year in Miami LeBron deferred to Wade and they didn't win! Then they gave LeBron they keys and made him the main man the next year and they won. How exactly did Wade "show LeBron how to win"? When Wade was the leader they didn't win. LeBron's teams in Cleveland the 1st go around were trash. He'd have won in Cleveland if he had the Heat roster Wade had.
It’s not nonsense. Wade was always the better player throughout their career. A champion before Lebron got there. Big game performer like no other at that time. Lebron never looked better playing alongside someone. The amount of alley oops Wade hit him with was insane. Wade is a dawg like Kobe when he’s ready to go. Lebrons never been like that. Lebron didn’t go on a 27 game win streak with anyone else after DWade. Playoff Wade makes Lebron seem average. If Lebron didn’t choke so bad in 2011, DWades performance would of joined his 2006 championship as another amazing performance and finals MVP. They didn’t win because they gave the keys to Lebron. They won because DWade understood that if he turns into beast mode Lebron is useless. So he adjusted to playing off the ball to help Lebron feel like how he felt in Cleveland. Miami would of actually won more chips if Lebron was the one playing off the ball instead.
So LeBron compliments Kyrie, and the discussion becomes LeBron’s losses and who taught him how to win? Sure. Okay ESPN. Jordan played 15 years. He must have 15 rings, right? 🤔
Steven A is dead wrong on this one...even prior to Wade people seem to forget that lebron took a Cavs team without a second star to the finals.....he was still very young then...what lebron needed was help and NOT someone to show him how to win
@@joykenn9772 You could say the same thing to the Heat when Shaq left 😂. Why Wade ain’t show those guys how to win and get a chip if it was that simple?
This is what I'm talking about. Steven, a smith a big time hater Ray Allen, by the way, did not win that game. It was only a tie after he made the shot. The Spurs actually got the last chance to make the game winning shot. The game went to overtime against the heat. By the way, in game, 6 LeBron James score 16 straight points in the fourth quarter.
@@keefriff99I don’t know how no one has caught on yet. Especially if you look at what he says on his little podcast. Skip bayless atleast keeps his hate basketball related.
remember when Lebron first came to Miami and was going around asking all the greats how to win a championship because he didn’t know how? 😂 People seem to forget that.
SAS saying 2016 lebron and cavs got lucky cause draymond missed game 5 and iggy and bogut facing injuries game 6, yet 2015 it was just lebron and cavs alone without kyrie or love in the finals 😂😂
The Cavs won multiple games without Kyrie and Love while the Warriors couldn’t win one without Bogut as well. They won game 3 with no Love in 2016 Also. The Warriors was also up in the 4th of game 7 so it’s not like they had no chance to win. They just made too many mistakes down the stretch and lost. Steph and Klay stunk up the joint.
@@anointed860 As soon as Shaq left the Heat couldn’t make a deep run. People act like he ain’t command a double team on the Heat where the whole front court was focused on him
@@anointed860 he said win brother. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. Loves Allen Iverson calls him a winner and a one of the best little guys ever. But lebron wasn’t a winner until he went to Miami. Stop it please. He didn’t need anyone to teach him anything, he needed better players. That’s what Miami was committed to.
LeBron was definitely happiest in Miami BUT let’s not say he didn’t know how to win. He just didn’t have a team that could compete and win and the cavaliers didn’t want to compete and win. In Miami, LeBron actually had a team that could compete and a front office and staff that wanted to compete and win at all costs.
@@oskheathen7606 I agree, but I really think Bron is looking at Kyrie now and saying “nobody would beat them” if they were playing together currently.. SAS just created this whole debate from thin air.. Bron might even say his favorite was Wade but him and Kyrie had the most potential and still do now.
Stimulus package in 2016… if anybody got a stimulus package it was the Golden State Warriors in 2015 with Kyrie and Kevin love being hurt… Draymond being suspended for one game and they were up 3-1 is all on him! Stop the nonsense! They had 2 chances to close out with the full squad and couldn’t!
Lebron just needed someone else to be all star level consistent on the Cavs in the playoffs and he woulda eventually won a championship. He left because they ain’t ever have that. Wade needed help too around then. Same as Bosh. That’s why they joined up.
@@datsapaddlin Wade was winning just like Lebron ? What are you talking about lol. After 2006 it was all downhill for the Heat, got swept in the first round during the title defense run, missed the playoffs after that, and got bounced every first round until Lebron joined.
Yes Wade and Bosh were superstar franchise players carrying mediocre teams they all needed some help and a solid No2 but for all 3 team up was crazy and weakest move in NBA history other then KD/GSW
Just some fun facts for those of the belief Lebron only won because of "super teams": Jordan never won a championship without a teammate who was either All NBA or All Defense Lebron won the 2016 Finals without a teammate who was either All NBA or All Defense Jordan won 5 of 6 Finals with a teammate who was both All NBA & All Defense Lebron won 1 Finals with a teammate who was both All NBA & All Defense (AD 2020)- the only season he had a teammate who made both (aside from this year 2024 at age 39).
That's a lot of cherry picking of specific accolades just to make a big deal out of Jordan having Scottie Pippen on his team. So you're trying to say LeBron had no help in 2016 and claim that LeBron had more help in 2020 than he did in Miami? So Kyrie didn't make the all star team in 2016. Did you know that Pippen didn't make the all star team in 1991 or 1998? So that means Jordan won two finals (1991 and 1998) without an all star teammate. Jordan also won two finals without homecourt advantage (1993 and 1998), a feat LeBron achieved once (2016). You probably didn't know either that statistically, Jordan actually carried slightly more of the load for his team than LeBron did even in 2018, and yet Jordan managed to cinch the title whereas LeBron got swept. And before you say that the 2018 Warriors were so much better than the 1998 Jazz, consider that the 2018 Warriors nearly lost to James Harden's Rockets whereas the Jazz mopped up Shaq and Kobe. In fact, the 1998 Jazz had a higher net rating than the 2018 Warriors. The 2018 Warriors were not the all time great team that the 2017 Warriors were. They were much worse defensively. But because LeBron got swept, people pretend that they were impossible to beat. The fact is, Miami was definitely a superteam, like it or not. And both Cleveland redux and the 2020 Lakers were built to be superteams as well. They just didn't achieve the same results as the Miami superteam.
It is not a belief. Lebron only won because he created his own superteam every time. It’s a shame for him he makes some teammates worse. Kevin Love from the 2016 team was an mvp candidate before joining Lebron. Kyrie is a first ballot hall of famer from that team. Don’t try to manipulate history to suit your narrative.
Well, since you brought up Kyrie & Pippen- lets compare... Kyrie: All NBA 2nd team x1, All NBA 3rd team x2 Pippen: All NBA 1st team x3, All NBA 2nd team x2, All NBA 3rd team x2, All NBA Defense 1st team x8, All NBA Defense 2nd team x2 All NBA is by far a better metric in evaluating a player's impact over All Star. In regard to Finals opponents between MJ & LBJ.. MJ: Magic, Worthy, Divac/ Clyde/ Barkley (Kevin Johnson)/ Payton (Kemp)/Malone & Stockton, Malone & Stockton LBJ: Timmy, Parker, Manu/Dirk, Kidd (old)/KD, Westbrook, Harden/Timmy, Parker, Manu, Kawhi/ Timmy, Parker, Manu, Kawhi/Steph, Klay, Dray, (Iggy 50/50)/ Steph, Klay, Dray, (Iggy 50/50)/ Steph, Dray, Klay, KD/ Steph, Dray, Klay, KD/Butler Lebron played 31 HOFers over his 10 Finals. MJ played 10 HOFers in 6 Finals. Guys in ( ) are not in HOF but should be mentioned not included in count. Facts > Feelings
@@leonyses2887 See my response to the other guy first, but Kevin Love was the best player/focal point for a terrible Minnesota team that never even made the playoffs. Being the best player on a non-playoff team doesnt make you a superstar. Kevin Love also averaged 8 & 6 in the 2016 Finals. He is a #3 option on a championship team. Nothing more.
LeBron’s winning % was better than Wades before joining the Heat, with much weaker rosters… but somehow Wade needed to teach him how to win. ESPN and their narratives man 😂😂😂
I’m one of the biggest Bron supporters, but I have to be objective. He didn’t have championship DNA nor mentality, he learned that with the Heat and D Wade. That is FACT.
@@RandomCitizen014what are you talking about? His best teammate was mo williams.. come one man no one wanted to play in Cleveland ohio. Also management were content with just competing and not spending money. That also why the stoudemire deal fell through. What did you mean teach him how to win lmao such a weak narrative
Anthony Davis was the best. The reason why most would disagree is narrative. Kyrie, for as skilled and talented as he is, is not in same stratosphere as Davis in terms of impact. It's not even close. Wade was awesome and played a role in LeBron's growth as a winner, but Heat Culture was more important. Also, Wade and Kyrie had great power forwards supporting them in Bosh and Love. I get why people would disagree, but if you were to build a perfect running mate for LeBron, it would be Davis.
Anthony Davis is better overall but definitely not offensively, kyrie is a better scorer, better 3pt shooter, midrange shooter, better passer, better playmaker and processing speed. After 2020 Ad’s shooting and midrange shooting fell off a clip statistically under league average efficiency.
Ray Allen did not bail him out stop it, lebron dropped 16 in that 4th quarter and hit the first three. This is the first Superstar that everyone expects for him to do literally everything or he got saved. Aint no way this boy talking about the Graymond suspension like Golden state didn’t have three chances to close things out and Lebron dropped back to back 40 point games. Stop it Stephen A.
How did Allen not bail out the Heat in that situation? If it doesn’t drop, the series is over & the Spurs are champs. Lebron lead a great charge to get them back in the game - but he also had some sloppy turnovers in the last few minutes & brick the shot that Bosh rebounded to get to Wade.
Yes Dwade helped lebron learn to win. But let’s not act like any of those cavs teams had a chance if bron not there. Wade showed bron how to win but lets it act like he was playing with a championship caliber team before 2011.
I think Bron played his best basketball wit Kyrie. Everything Bron wants in a running mate is what Kyrie is. But Wade helped make Bron into the player he is today
He only helped him win two more championships after that but I guess that don’t matter 😂. People talk about 2011 like that ain’t help Lebron in the long run because he was his best self after that. He did fail but he responded with greatness to that failure and was .500 in the finals after that.
@@Royalwar0305 Forreal, Lebron averaged 18 7 & 7. If Wade was as good as everyone claims he was in 2011, he could win with Bosh & Lebron averaging what he did.
Those who are defending Lebron here never watched how 2010-2011. The bro showboated with his Decision at Akron, then promised 7+ rings, disrespected the coach and organization, and pulled Ben Simmons in the Finals and told the fans to go back to your real world. It was his lowest moment. Now he overcame all that with the help of Wade and Heat He had different aura coming out of Miami. Stephen A is correct
I didn’t know Miami was only successful because Wade was there. I thought Jimmy Butler and Spoelstra and the Miami Heat culture are still doing great things.
People understand he played bad in the finals but then he went back to back after that so he did help bring championships to the Heat regardless. You would think he never won there and was the MVP of the league and in the finals twice on the Heat the way people talk about him. He got humbled and then changed his approach and won.
If we're talking strictly about on-court production, then Kyrie was LeBron's greatest teammate. But if we're taking into account everything both on and off the court, then SAS is right. Dwyane Wade was pivotal in turning LeBron James from just a great regular season player into a perennial champion. The main reason why Kyrie's stats with LeBron were better than Wade's was because Wade's health started to decline from 2011 to 2014. Let's not forget Wade was already a former Finals MVP when LeBron got there, so he taught the man how to lead a team to the championship. Kudos to Kyrie for getting back to the Finals for the first time since leaving Cleveland, but we all know he's second on the Mavericks pecking order behind Luka.
Wade was a champ, winner and leader before Lebron ever became one and showed Lebron how to become one. He was for sure his best running mate. Kyrie most skilled however, of all time.
@@Commenting800 because Mavs were a way better team and Lebron choked and didnt hold up his end of the deal. They should have won game 2 whem Wade had 36 pts , up 15, 7 min to go in 4th and team decided to go to lebron rest of the way to get his stats up n that led to losing the game. Lebrons 8 point game in the finals didnt help neither did his 4 straight 4th qtrs with 2 pts or less. Lebron has the biggest drop in nba history in scoring from regular season to finals. Hope your question was answered.
@@Reaper13-hi3yo retard, despite those averages, he still averaged 2 points in the 4th qtrs of 4 straight games in the finals and had an 8 point total game in one of them. You just proved you are the casual 😂😂😂😂😂
Man the hate is gonna get the best of you one day because Wade was just on a better team, he didn’t teach LBJ how to win he took a bad Cleveland team to the ECF, that’s winning because if you put Wade on that same team that team probably would’ve won one series and lost in 5 games in the second series, you’re hating on a man who is worth a billion dollars and lives life the right way, contributing to his community, took care of his boys, speaks out for social justice, a family man and have never been in trouble off the court even though he came in the league at a very young age and while hater like yourself just waiting for some bad news about him to surface. He what a role model look like but hater like yourself can’t see it because you’re probably just a miserable individual and don’t have any true friends so you have to live your life on TH-cam to feel better about yourself. What a sad individual, you probably don’t even know why you’re a hater but I’m guessing that you’re not athletic and couldn’t play any sports try pickle ball you might be good at it 😀
Stephen A makes me think he lowkey got something against LeBron. He Always got something negative to throw in no matter what he says about him and it's like he be waiting to talk trash about him cause once he starts he can't stop. Saying the same things over and over. Even Molly had to say something. Hater.
Dwyane Wade averaged 20.6 points, 5.1 rebounds and 4.5 assists in 285 games with LeBron James in his career. LeBron James has averaged 26.4 points, 7.2 rebounds and 6.5 assists in 151 games for the Heat at home in his career.
No one averaged 30 in any playoff series playing with lebron but dwade. Dwade was better than lebron in 2010-2011, he outplayed all playoffs and finals. Dwade sacrificed his touches cuz lebron isn’t good playing off the ball my boy throw context in there
@@mcastro02Lebron was the 3rd best player on the team & 5th best player on the floor overall. I think what he means is if the Heat don’t choke that series, Wade was a lock for Finals MVP.
Shoot in that case if it wasn’t for Shaq D Wade wouldn’t have a Chip and if wasn’t for Phil Jackson Shaq and Kobe wouldn’t have Rings…. I can keep going 😂
From a mental standpoint yes Shaq did help along with Gary Payton. Shaq was upset because Dallas defense was too good for him with the trapping n doubling so he leaned on dwade and he thrived after running the offense through him after game 2. It was Payton who convinced Shaq to differ as well ! Which led them to winning 4 straight
@@JCDenton. MJ INCELS MAD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 MJ 1-9 without Scottie. Cant even get pass the first round with out Scottie pippen. MJ groupies are delusional 😂. Pippen almost made to the ecf. Jordan can't even get in the playoffs without him. 😂 COPE LEBRON GOAT 😂🤡
Wade & Bosh are both hall of famers & all 3 formed when they were age 25-28. Jordan was 33 Pip 31 & Dennis 35. Jordan never had that luxury. Lebron did.
Folks don't seem to realize that Pippen almost went to the Finals, without Jordan. Michael Jordan never won a ring without Scottie Pippen. All his 6 championships came alongside Pippen who was the team's second star.
@@dbutta2496 No SAS is not speaking facts, he speaks on emotion because of his nostalgia & bias. BTW- LBJ has more MVP's, Finals MVPs, better & more efficient stats than Kobe. Hold them facts boy
I love D Wade as he is/was my favorite player growing up. But people gotta stop with this “He Didn’t know how to win narrative” that Heat TEAM slaps tf outta any Cavs team Lebron had previous. He made it to the finals and lost cause he had no one to lean on. NO ONE WINS BY THEMSELVES.
No one wins alone. Jordan didn’t win until he had help. Kobe didn’t win until he had help. The list goes on and on. Go look at those cavs teams LeBron had before he left to try to get a team that could actually compete. You’ll realize you’re wrong.
@@quis3232 I don’t think anyone taught either how to win. A great player needs the right team and coaching staff to win a championship. You can’t win by yourself no matter how great you are.
And Stephen A wonders why players get at him the way they do. I’m so tired of hearing this dam “stimulus package” with Draymond. Draymond hit 7 threes in game 7. That suspension was warranted given what Draymond was doing those playoffs.
He RAN to D Wade to learn how to win. It’s the 2nd weakest move behind KD running to GSW. Running is running and facts are facts no matter how much you like him.
The Cavs were better than the Heat in 2010. He just needed some help to win a championship. Wade was losing too around then. It’s not like Lebron had Pat Riley running the show behind the scenes either in Cleveland.
Lbj didn't say kyrie was his best running mate. He just saying he miss playing with kyrie. However, don't get it twisted, dwade is lbjs greatest running mate period. Not even for debate.
Lebron was 4 wins away from a championship without Riley, Wade and Spoelstra but didn't know how to win... There's a difference between not knowing how to win and just not winning.
He must be getting old he’s arguing two different points. It’s Kyrie how you gone tell Bron he’s wrong. Also Wade is older and has the luxury of being surrounded by vets and a better organization unlike what LeBron has in Cleveland not to mention the off court stuff that was going on at the time.
Stephen A is a bigger lebron Hater than skip has ever been. Skip never got this angry or emotional when talking about lebron. Max needs to come back only person that ever challenged this 🤡
Even though this wasn’t the intial question, anybody who disagrees with Stephen A’s take here just simply does not understand basketball. The version of Lebron that allowed him to win with Kyrie does not happen without D Wade facts.
Going to the Finals and getting swept on 35% shooting & 22ppg is not the definition of being a winner. While I don’t believe Wade taught Bron to win, he helped him tremendously.
This is to Stephen A Smith 1. When warriors won first title Kyrie was injured 2. Second ring Kd. Was there they won 3. Third Ring Chris Paul gotten injured from the from the play in the Houston vs golden state series There’s some luck everywhere in nba championships it’s part of the game.
Ain't no way we are discussing this on finals week 😭
I mean, there are no games yet. And you can only talk about “what impact either Tatum/Brown/Luka/Kyrie have on the game” so many times when there’s a 2 hour show to fill 5 days a week
You knew it was Coming
Can pretty much expect Lakers and Lebron whenever Windhorst is on… the man is basically employed to cover Lebron
That’s what happens when you top 2 ever to touch a basketball my boy
It’s relevant
this wasint the question doe … nobody asked who’s his best teammate , lebron was simply saying he misses playing with Kyrie
Duh but if u dont notice that and this debate goes hand in hand with
You need to watch the whole vid. The question literally was who is his best running mate.
@@robertsmoot2187 stephen a formed that question during his rant after the initial video of lebron praising kyrie … go rewatch it
They just use whatever Lebron says for debate talk because people love to debate whatever he says
It's Lebron bro. You know they have to talk about SOMETHING. They need LEBRON. This is nothing new.
Stephen used Lebron praising Kyrie to spend a segment trashing him. Lebron didn't put Kyrie and D Wade in competition, Stephen A did lol
Yeah he won championships with both of them so I’m sure he misses playing on the same team as both. Stephen A made it more than what it was.
Yep. They love to bash that man
All smith do is trash players he’ll retire soon cause nobody will care
1. Dwyane Wade
2. Kyrie Irving
3. Anthony Davis
4. Chris Bosh
5. Kevin Love
That’s his best teammates.
Kyrie #1
Steven A is right on this. Wade has been Brons best teammate.
Ad should be at the bottom. Bubble title vs injured heat team. Healthy miami beats them😊
AD #1
Jr Smith number 1. 😂
The d wade disrespect is crazy, nobody remembers how amazing he was way before Bron went to Miami smh
Everyone forgets because he took a backseat and was injured the last two years with him. And of course the lebron narrative is he carries everyone
It actually isn't though lol the narrative is actually that lebron gets carried by whomever he plays with. Dwade, Ray Allen, Kyrie, and now AD have all either saved Lebron's legacy or carried him at this point according to the media. 😅 Lol that's insane. One shot always matters more than the whole game when it comes to LeBron. Nobody is confused about Dwade being a dawg 🤷🏾♀️
@@creshondasmith4448 I’ve never heard that
@@Manz03frescothen you must live under a rock
@@lorddj9910 you don’t watch the nba media clearly must me the euro league. Lmk who’s the next best thing in Europe
Down 3-1 but the warriors had 6 & 7 and to win 1, with a game 7 at home. There was no stimulus package given
Dawg he was just complimenting Kyrie why this had to be a topic 😭😭😭
SAS at his finest creating random debates 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️… this is what JJ be talking about bruh 😂😂😂
Exactly. He comes up with all the topics. It's crazy how he picks everything that lebron talks about on his show to come on this hsow to talk about it 😂😂😂. He be watching that show like crazy😂😂😂
@@-_Bee facts! And he gone talk about it again on his podcast! Just gone be loud and wrong talking to himself lol
Literally just watched Jamal Murray hit 2 game winners in the first rd and NOBODY says he bailed Jokic out
no matter what Topic is it...the way Stephen A Smith find away to diminish lebron accomplishment is amazing.
Amazing!! Ninja always does this
He sucks off MJ wit his arms tied behind his back so he ll do anything to protect his boo's throne from Bron
He want LeBron to talk to him just as bad Skip wants Bron to respond to him 😂…. It ain’t happening
Cope b
@@dariusgumbs7143 SAS be hating on Bron so bad cuz Bron dont show him love like other NBA players do. SAS swears he got sooooo much stain in the NBA, yet the face of it dont F wit him lol
Stephen a is turning into skip bayless
Even worse. Skip doesn’t do it with this much anger in his voice.
Really is
Lebron wasn't a winner when he went to Miami without Miami lebron isn't the same.player in Cleveland. Yall say it's hating like what, he jus speaking facts lmao
@@crudogang4652 He wasn’t a winner because the best second option the Cavs got him was Mo Willams. Who won with Mo Willams as their second option again?
@datsapaddlin nd also it doesn't mean that lebron is less of a player of anything. He is still arguably the best of all time but at the same time I'm not gonna sit here nd act like he had it all together throughout his whole career, he got help frm vets and there's nothing wrong with that at all lol.
Lebron could be tying his shoe it would be headlines lmfao
“On a scale of 1-10, how does this affect LeBron’s legacy?” Undisputed question
And I can’t stand it smh 🤦🏾♂️
This dude keeps mentioning the “Stimulus package” & Iguodala/Bogut getting injured but doesn’t mention Kyrie and Love were injured in 2015.
Cus they got injured naturally. Dray getting suspended was artificially done.
Dray shoulda been gone during the okc series but the NBA didnt want to treat them bc they was up 3-1
@@goodcompanyman the bs yall manage to come up with to defend the warriors blowing a 3-1 lead is crazy. Dray still played games 6 and 7. Bron dropped 40 with and without dray playing lmao. The Warriors had two games at home and lost. Pls be quiet.
@@goodcompanyman Love ain’t play in game 3 with all the Warriors players playing. That was their chance to go up 3-0 and seal the series but they fumbled. Draymond got too many techs and that’s why he got suspended. His antics came back to hurt the team just like this regular season.
@@hoeelanderyeah cus Bogut got hurt in game 5. Maybe if dray is there, that play doesnt happen. Adams got kicked in the nuts multiple times much harder during that wcf but the NBA didnt do anything because okc was up 3-1
Lebron instigated and dray tapped bron and that resulted in suspension. There is no way you think they couldve won that series after watching how the first 4 games played out.
Props to bron for taking advantage of the situation. But NBA rigged that for sure for suspending Green which was a build up from the WCF.
@@datsapaddlinthe interaction between bron and green in that game 4 was mild at best and the game was over. Dray’s kicks on adams were flagrant 2 type acts by even then standard.
Bron and cavs did their job taking advantage of the situation but i am sure if OKC was down 1-3, they wouldve gotten dray suspended. But NBA didnt do any
Where's Shannon when we need him??😂
Yeah we needed him to balance out the lebron hate from SAS lol.
Why he's he said the same thing Stephen A says😅 😊 dang y'all some Lebum nut riders😂
Monday & Tuesday
Tbh I think Shannon probably would've somewhat agreed with Stephen A. Even Shannon said LeBron probably would dominate the league but he also said the reason he's in the GOAT conversation is because he went to Miami and "learned how to win" Shannon said that himself
SAS wouldn’t say this in front of Shannon 😂
Lebron's best teammate of all time is his wife Savannah. Bless the James Family.
True but lame answer
The man said Kyrie is the most gifted player, not the best teammate!! What in the hell SaS talking bout 😂😂
Asking wend horse “you want a cookie?” Is nasty work😂😂
He wanted one too 😂
“wend horse” is crazy work
That’s what brought me here 😂 (the comments)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Stephen A never miss an opportunity to make things more about bron
People really forget Lebron played the first finals back at Cleveland without Kyrie & Love
And he was amazing in the first 3 games . Had a 2-1 lead with game 4 at home in Cleveland then had a shitty game & was outplayed by Timofy Mozgov.
Kyrie got hurt 1st Game 4th Quarter smh, dammnit Bron should have 5 rings at least
Nobody gets more praise for losing titles than lebron 😑
@@WalkingWallet only because he joined a big 3 in a bad conference after having already joined a big 3 in that same conference few yrs earlier
No1 doesn't are u 20?
So glad Windy mentioned that Kyrie and Love were hurt during Golden States 1st Championship. Because Stephen A always mention Draymond being suspended during the 2nd Finals and it being a Stimulus package but he never mentions how the Warriors got a Stimulus package with both Kyrie and Love being out pretty much the entire 1st Finals between the Cavs and the Warriors.
Yawn trolll
The media narratives
LeBron go to Miami
Dwade taught him how to win
KD go to gsw
He saved Steph , Draymond and klay legacies
Facts! Facts are Wade was amazing, but the Heat struggled after that chip, it was a mutual partnership
It's not a Media narratives it's a fact he you taught how to win it's ok to say it come on
Steph taught kd how to ride coattails cuz KD ain't won yet
D Wade taught bron how to win
Word! You never hear any of these idiots say "Steph taught KD how to win". Glad I'm not the only one who sees this.
Not all narratives by the media. Lebron has credited D-Wade for making him better, whether its being accountable or taking the lead, he showed him the way. He has said he needed him. You can google. Steph saving KD or KD saving the Warriors are narratives.
in what part Lebron said Irving was his best running mate? Wade is not even playing--SAS forcing the conversation that didn't exist.
That Monica smoke got SAS scrambling, turned a topic on LBJ showing Kyrie love into hating lmao
Lebron getting a haircut is gonna be a FT topic
LeBron's farts would make headlines in ESPN ngl
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SAS forever trying to take shots at Lebron for no reason
Exactly bro he a clown
He’s salty bron started the podcast with jj and not him . Ironically jj hasn’t been on first take since the podcast started
@@denisfitzgerald8647 🤣 🤣
This wasn’t even the question lol
SAS just stating what happened that is not hating that’s like he said it’s a fact I agree with that take he was mentally a mess after the decision and needed Dwade both on and off court to help him learn what takes to win
Nonsense. In the 1st year in Miami LeBron deferred to Wade and they didn't win! Then they gave LeBron they keys and made him the main man the next year and they won. How exactly did Wade "show LeBron how to win"? When Wade was the leader they didn't win. LeBron's teams in Cleveland the 1st go around were trash. He'd have won in Cleveland if he had the Heat roster Wade had.
People too simpleminded to comprehend such a simple concept 😂
It’s not nonsense. Wade was always the better player throughout their career. A champion before Lebron got there. Big game performer like no other at that time. Lebron never looked better playing alongside someone. The amount of alley oops Wade hit him with was insane. Wade is a dawg like Kobe when he’s ready to go. Lebrons never been like that. Lebron didn’t go on a 27 game win streak with anyone else after DWade. Playoff Wade makes Lebron seem average. If Lebron didn’t choke so bad in 2011, DWades performance would of joined his 2006 championship as another amazing performance and finals MVP. They didn’t win because they gave the keys to Lebron. They won because DWade understood that if he turns into beast mode Lebron is useless. So he adjusted to playing off the ball to help Lebron feel like how he felt in Cleveland. Miami would of actually won more chips if Lebron was the one playing off the ball instead.
This ranks top in the list of Stephen A nonsense talk. LeBron didn't know how to win until Wade? Common dude!
So LeBron compliments Kyrie, and the discussion becomes LeBron’s losses and who taught him how to win? Sure. Okay ESPN.
Jordan played 15 years. He must have 15 rings, right? 🤔
Where mj comes from ?
Why is it when Stephen A is wrong he starts yelling and everyone just backs down. His comments literally made no sense
Yea fr.. he annoyed me on this fr lol smh
Steven A is dead wrong on this one...even prior to Wade people seem to forget that lebron took a Cavs team without a second star to the finals.....he was still very young then...what lebron needed was help and NOT someone to show him how to win
Oh really? So what happened in 2009 and 2010??😂😂
@@joykenn9772 You could say the same thing to the Heat when Shaq left 😂. Why Wade ain’t show those guys how to win and get a chip if it was that simple?
Ray Allen bailed him out? People are acting like he wasn't the best player on the court in game 6 that 4th quarter
This is why I don’t watch espn anymore 🤦🏾♂️
This is what I'm talking about. Steven, a smith a big time hater Ray Allen, by the way, did not win that game. It was only a tie after he made the shot. The Spurs actually got the last chance to make the game winning shot. The game went to overtime against the heat. By the way, in game, 6 LeBron James score 16 straight points in the fourth quarter.
Stephen hates Lebron more than Skip does. Stephen is just more subtle about it.
SAS: You're wrong and here's why
FACTS!
I've been saying that for a while now. SAS is unwatchable...his success has turned him into an insufferable egomaniac.
@@keefriff99I don’t know how no one has caught on yet. Especially if you look at what he says on his little podcast. Skip bayless atleast keeps his hate basketball related.
remember when Lebron first came to Miami and was going around asking all the greats how to win a championship because he didn’t know how? 😂 People seem to forget that.
At 4:33 "I understand your point. Not bad....if you thought it out properly" hahahaha Mad Dog is a savage
They fr discussing this during the finals and he ain’t in it
SAS saying 2016 lebron and cavs got lucky cause draymond missed game 5 and iggy and bogut facing injuries game 6, yet 2015 it was just lebron and cavs alone without kyrie or love in the finals 😂😂
The Cavs won multiple games without Kyrie and Love while the Warriors couldn’t win one without Bogut as well. They won game 3 with no Love in 2016 Also. The Warriors was also up in the 4th of game 7 so it’s not like they had no chance to win. They just made too many mistakes down the stretch and lost. Steph and Klay stunk up the joint.
Lebron said his the MOST GIFTED TEAMMATE HE HAD
3:46 LMFAOOOO WENDY GLAZING 😂😂😂😂😂
But Stephen A. Isn't a Jordan 🍆 eater? Stay hatin fool
If LeBron wins another ring with JJ as coach, SAS will lose the rest of the hair on his head overnight.
😂😂😂😂
IF IF IF...IF Lebron wins the next 3 rings, he'll be the GOAT. Blah blah blah. Lol always iFs with Lebron until he gets eliminated from the playoffs.
He won't with JJ REDDICK, that's for sure
@@youtuber_00786 bro calm down, you act like the outcomes are scripted lol then will use that as an excuse if lebron wins like gtfoh
and we cant predict the future we're just asumming you're acting like u can predict the future
How is this a debate? Kyrie is nasty but he’s no Dwade, this whole comment section has short term memory lol
"you want a cookie? Are you kidding me?" 😂
“ naw he got a trophy “ 💀
Before Lebron went to Miami, he had been to the Finals more recently than they had... They were getting bounced in the first round...
Didn’t know how to win but get to the finals at 22 with that roster you sound crazy
And still.took a L he said win a championship did.he no
@@anointed860Learn some English first before you learn how to hate
@@anointed860 As soon as Shaq left the Heat couldn’t make a deep run. People act like he ain’t command a double team on the Heat where the whole front court was focused on him
@@anointed860 he said win brother. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. Loves Allen Iverson calls him a winner and a one of the best little guys ever.
But lebron wasn’t a winner until he went to Miami. Stop it please. He didn’t need anyone to teach him anything, he needed better players. That’s what Miami was committed to.
LeBron was definitely happiest in Miami BUT let’s not say he didn’t know how to win. He just didn’t have a team that could compete and win and the cavaliers didn’t want to compete and win. In Miami, LeBron actually had a team that could compete and a front office and staff that wanted to compete and win at all costs.
Stephen a Smith hate to be wrong. You’re wrong bro is Kyrie.
Facts
And how? Last time I checked, he hadn't won before Dwyane Wade.
D wade in his prime and 8n 2011 was way better than kyrie
You just don’t know how good Wade was. Wade > Kyrie
@@oskheathen7606 I agree, but I really think Bron is looking at Kyrie now and saying “nobody would beat them” if they were playing together currently.. SAS just created this whole debate from thin air.. Bron might even say his favorite was Wade but him and Kyrie had the most potential and still do now.
Stimulus package in 2016… if anybody got a stimulus package it was the Golden State Warriors in 2015 with Kyrie and Kevin love being hurt… Draymond being suspended for one game and they were up 3-1 is all on him! Stop the nonsense! They had 2 chances to close out with the full squad and couldn’t!
Lebron just needed someone else to be all star level consistent on the Cavs in the playoffs and he woulda eventually won a championship. He left because they ain’t ever have that. Wade needed help too around then. Same as Bosh. That’s why they joined up.
Lies
@@dbutta2496 no it’s not Wade wasn’t winning just like Lebron at the time in 2010
@@datsapaddlin Wade was winning just like Lebron ? What are you talking about lol. After 2006 it was all downhill for the Heat, got swept in the first round during the title defense run, missed the playoffs after that, and got bounced every first round until Lebron joined.
@@perotal Typo I meant wasn’t winning 😂
Yes Wade and Bosh were superstar franchise players carrying mediocre teams they all needed some help and a solid No2 but for all 3 team up was crazy and weakest move in NBA history other then KD/GSW
DWade that first two years before his knees went out they were flying it was so fun to watch
Just some fun facts for those of the belief Lebron only won because of "super teams":
Jordan never won a championship without a teammate who was either All NBA or All Defense
Lebron won the 2016 Finals without a teammate who was either All NBA or All Defense
Jordan won 5 of 6 Finals with a teammate who was both All NBA & All Defense
Lebron won 1 Finals with a teammate who was both All NBA & All Defense (AD 2020)- the only season he had a teammate who made both (aside from this year 2024 at age 39).
That's a lot of cherry picking of specific accolades just to make a big deal out of Jordan having Scottie Pippen on his team. So you're trying to say LeBron had no help in 2016 and claim that LeBron had more help in 2020 than he did in Miami?
So Kyrie didn't make the all star team in 2016. Did you know that Pippen didn't make the all star team in 1991 or 1998? So that means Jordan won two finals (1991 and 1998) without an all star teammate. Jordan also won two finals without homecourt advantage (1993 and 1998), a feat LeBron achieved once (2016). You probably didn't know either that statistically, Jordan actually carried slightly more of the load for his team than LeBron did even in 2018, and yet Jordan managed to cinch the title whereas LeBron got swept.
And before you say that the 2018 Warriors were so much better than the 1998 Jazz, consider that the 2018 Warriors nearly lost to James Harden's Rockets whereas the Jazz mopped up Shaq and Kobe. In fact, the 1998 Jazz had a higher net rating than the 2018 Warriors. The 2018 Warriors were not the all time great team that the 2017 Warriors were. They were much worse defensively. But because LeBron got swept, people pretend that they were impossible to beat.
The fact is, Miami was definitely a superteam, like it or not. And both Cleveland redux and the 2020 Lakers were built to be superteams as well. They just didn't achieve the same results as the Miami superteam.
It is not a belief. Lebron only won because he created his own superteam every time. It’s a shame for him he makes some teammates worse. Kevin Love from the 2016 team was an mvp candidate before joining Lebron. Kyrie is a first ballot hall of famer from that team. Don’t try to manipulate history to suit your narrative.
@@megavolt67oh look, someone who actually knows basketball in the comments section. You’re an anomaly.
Well, since you brought up Kyrie & Pippen- lets compare...
Kyrie: All NBA 2nd team x1, All NBA 3rd team x2 Pippen: All NBA 1st team x3, All NBA 2nd team x2, All NBA 3rd team x2, All NBA Defense 1st team x8, All NBA Defense 2nd team x2
All NBA is by far a better metric in evaluating a player's impact over All Star.
In regard to Finals opponents between MJ & LBJ..
MJ: Magic, Worthy, Divac/ Clyde/ Barkley (Kevin Johnson)/ Payton (Kemp)/Malone & Stockton, Malone & Stockton
LBJ: Timmy, Parker, Manu/Dirk, Kidd (old)/KD, Westbrook, Harden/Timmy, Parker, Manu, Kawhi/ Timmy, Parker, Manu, Kawhi/Steph, Klay, Dray, (Iggy 50/50)/ Steph, Klay, Dray, (Iggy 50/50)/ Steph, Dray, Klay, KD/ Steph, Dray, Klay, KD/Butler
Lebron played 31 HOFers over his 10 Finals. MJ played 10 HOFers in 6 Finals. Guys in ( ) are not in HOF but should be mentioned not included in count.
Facts > Feelings
@@leonyses2887 See my response to the other guy first, but Kevin Love was the best player/focal point for a terrible Minnesota team that never even made the playoffs. Being the best player on a non-playoff team doesnt make you a superstar.
Kevin Love also averaged 8 & 6 in the 2016 Finals. He is a #3 option on a championship team. Nothing more.
Wade won well before teaming up with Lebron. People forget what his game.
LeBron’s winning % was better than Wades before joining the Heat, with much weaker rosters… but somehow Wade needed to teach him how to win. ESPN and their narratives man 😂😂😂
Yeah I get Wade won before but he was getting first rounded in 2010. That run was over and he needed help as well at that point.
I’m one of the biggest Bron supporters, but I have to be objective. He didn’t have championship DNA nor mentality, he learned that with the Heat and D Wade. That is FACT.
@@RandomCitizen014what are you talking about? His best teammate was mo williams.. come one man no one wanted to play in Cleveland ohio. Also management were content with just competing and not spending money. That also why the stoudemire deal fell through. What did you mean teach him how to win lmao such a weak narrative
@@RandomCitizen014 Fact
@@earvinm6429thank you they don’t take all that til consideration you know how to win if you make the finals at 22
Lmaooo @4:32 Doggy mad funny 😂
Anthony Davis was the best. The reason why most would disagree is narrative. Kyrie, for as skilled and talented as he is, is not in same stratosphere as Davis in terms of impact. It's not even close. Wade was awesome and played a role in LeBron's growth as a winner, but Heat Culture was more important. Also, Wade and Kyrie had great power forwards supporting them in Bosh and Love. I get why people would disagree, but if you were to build a perfect running mate for LeBron, it would be Davis.
Nobody has handpicked his stars like Lebron. Of course he had perfect running mates
@@vulcanraven9701 Well, Davis was his best selection.
@@IxcaC That is correct
Anthony Davis is better overall but definitely not offensively, kyrie is a better scorer, better 3pt shooter, midrange shooter, better passer, better playmaker and processing speed. After 2020 Ad’s shooting and midrange shooting fell off a clip statistically under league average efficiency.
Ray Allen did not bail him out stop it, lebron dropped 16 in that 4th quarter and hit the first three. This is the first Superstar that everyone expects for him to do literally everything or he got saved. Aint no way this boy talking about the Graymond suspension like Golden state didn’t have three chances to close things out and Lebron dropped back to back 40 point games. Stop it Stephen A.
How did Allen not bail out the Heat in that situation? If it doesn’t drop, the series is over & the Spurs are champs. Lebron lead a great charge to get them back in the game - but he also had some sloppy turnovers in the last few minutes & brick the shot that Bosh rebounded to get to Wade.
Yes Dwade helped lebron learn to win. But let’s not act like any of those cavs teams had a chance if bron not there. Wade showed bron how to win but lets it act like he was playing with a championship caliber team before 2011.
LeBron just needed more talent
he melted down in 2011. he would be the goat in my eyes if he didn't choke and gag
Wade and Pat showed him how’s it’s done plus he needed to form a big 3 to win
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Yeah right. LeBron was having more success than the Heat
@@dparks2856 literally
I think Bron played his best basketball wit Kyrie. Everything Bron wants in a running mate is what Kyrie is. But Wade helped make Bron into the player he is today
SAS just loud and wrong again😂😂😂
Stephen A was on 🔥 🔥 this whole segment! 😂 killing both of em!
I hope this is Sarcasm lol
Stephen A Smith is the number one attack dog of the overrated jordan
Cope b. Don’t watch
SAS is the definition of a Jordashian. He's pathetic, like all the 90's fan boys who yearn for the "old days" like Uncle Rico
Jordan overrated………..😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Pass what you smokin
@@Reaper13-hi3yobro, Bron just not like that. 😂
@@chefrabbi2120 Jordan played JV teams compared to Lebron. MJ is entirely overrated.
U hear skip Smith 😂😅
The Ship with Cleveland was the best one imo
This is some of the worst LeBron hate I've ever heard in my life. So many misrepresentations and revisionist history it's sad
Yep. Man not even in the playoffs and they pulled this clip of him complimenting kyrie just to hate on him.
bron went to a nba finals in 2007 without d wade..
And took a L wade won when he went
@@anointed860 look at da team he took cmon lil bra
@@anointed860Look at the team they went against and played for. Y’all say the dumbest things 😂 and be so arrogant thinking you’re right
and got swept
@@davidgindi1192 stop talking if you don’t kno basketball he faced 3HOF’s with his 2nd best player is mo williams be fr
He really told Windhorst you want a cookie 😂😂😂
Dwade gave LeBron his last final prime year. Bron absolutely wasted it. Unforgivable.
Meh… if he was soo good then he should won and got the FMVP
He only helped him win two more championships after that but I guess that don’t matter 😂. People talk about 2011 like that ain’t help Lebron in the long run because he was his best self after that. He did fail but he responded with greatness to that failure and was .500 in the finals after that.
@@Royalwar0305 Forreal, Lebron averaged 18 7 & 7. If Wade was as good as everyone claims he was in 2011, he could win with Bosh & Lebron averaging what he did.
Ong
Anything to make Kyrie look bad. ESPN AND SAS are so disgusting
Those who are defending Lebron here never watched how 2010-2011. The bro showboated with his Decision at Akron, then promised 7+ rings, disrespected the coach and organization, and pulled Ben Simmons in the Finals and told the fans to go back to your real world. It was his lowest moment. Now he overcame all that with the help of Wade and Heat
He had different aura coming out of Miami. Stephen A is correct
He chocked, we get it. He's human bruh, he bounced back just fine
I didn’t know Miami was only successful because Wade was there. I thought Jimmy Butler and Spoelstra and the Miami Heat culture are still doing great things.
So what he had ONE bad finals! He's been to 10.
People understand he played bad in the finals but then he went back to back after that so he did help bring championships to the Heat regardless. You would think he never won there and was the MVP of the league and in the finals twice on the Heat the way people talk about him. He got humbled and then changed his approach and won.
If we're talking strictly about on-court production, then Kyrie was LeBron's greatest teammate. But if we're taking into account everything both on and off the court, then SAS is right. Dwyane Wade was pivotal in turning LeBron James from just a great regular season player into a perennial champion. The main reason why Kyrie's stats with LeBron were better than Wade's was because Wade's health started to decline from 2011 to 2014. Let's not forget Wade was already a former Finals MVP when LeBron got there, so he taught the man how to lead a team to the championship. Kudos to Kyrie for getting back to the Finals for the first time since leaving Cleveland, but we all know he's second on the Mavericks pecking order behind Luka.
Wade was a champ, winner and leader before Lebron ever became one and showed Lebron how to become one. He was for sure his best running mate. Kyrie most skilled however, of all time.
Since he was all that why didn't he lead LeBron to title in 2011!?
@@Commenting800 because Mavs were a way better team and Lebron choked and didnt hold up his end of the deal. They should have won game 2 whem Wade had 36 pts , up 15, 7 min to go in 4th and team decided to go to lebron rest of the way to get his stats up n that led to losing the game. Lebrons 8 point game in the finals didnt help neither did his 4 straight 4th qtrs with 2 pts or less. Lebron has the biggest drop in nba history in scoring from regular season to finals. Hope your question was answered.
@@MrVaju. Lebron averaged 18 pts 7 ast & 7 rebs. If you are going to make up casual drivel, atleast be accurate with averages.
@@Reaper13-hi3yo retard, despite those averages, he still averaged 2 points in the 4th qtrs of 4 straight games in the finals and had an 8 point total game in one of them. You just proved you are the casual 😂😂😂😂😂
Man the hate is gonna get the best of you one day because Wade was just on a better team, he didn’t teach LBJ how to win he took a bad Cleveland team to the ECF, that’s winning because if you put Wade on that same team that team probably would’ve won one series and lost in 5 games in the second series, you’re hating on a man who is worth a billion dollars and lives life the right way, contributing to his community, took care of his boys, speaks out for social justice, a family man and have never been in trouble off the court even though he came in the league at a very young age and while hater like yourself just waiting for some bad news about him to surface. He what a role model look like but hater like yourself can’t see it because you’re probably just a miserable individual and don’t have any true friends so you have to live your life on TH-cam to feel better about yourself. What a sad individual, you probably don’t even know why you’re a hater but I’m guessing that you’re not athletic and couldn’t play any sports try pickle ball you might be good at it 😀
Stephen A makes me think he lowkey got something against LeBron. He Always got something negative to throw in no matter what he says about him and it's like he be waiting to talk trash about him cause once he starts he can't stop. Saying the same things over and over. Even Molly had to say something. Hater.
Dwyane Wade averaged 20.6 points, 5.1 rebounds and 4.5 assists in 285 games with LeBron James in his career.
LeBron James has averaged 26.4 points, 7.2 rebounds and 6.5 assists in 151 games for the Heat at home in his career.
Wat Kyrie average with lebron
No one averaged 30 in any playoff series playing with lebron but dwade. Dwade was better than lebron in 2010-2011, he outplayed all playoffs and finals. Dwade sacrificed his touches cuz lebron isn’t good playing off the ball my boy throw context in there
@Manz03fresco not even Wade thinks that--the better player is the one that wins finals MVP.
@@mcastro02 that made no sense so I’m gonna let you soak in your own stupidity rn
@@mcastro02Lebron was the 3rd best player on the team & 5th best player on the floor overall. I think what he means is if the Heat don’t choke that series, Wade was a lock for Finals MVP.
Can they please fire Molly.
Shoot in that case if it wasn’t for Shaq D Wade wouldn’t have a Chip and if wasn’t for Phil Jackson Shaq and Kobe wouldn’t have Rings…. I can keep going 😂
Shaq was on the bench when that series ended. Wade CARRIED!
From a mental standpoint yes Shaq did help along with Gary Payton. Shaq was upset because Dallas defense was too good for him with the trapping n doubling so he leaned on dwade and he thrived after running the offense through him after game 2. It was Payton who convinced Shaq to differ as well ! Which led them to winning 4 straight
SAS is the personification of if you're loud enough... you're right smh 🙄
I remember lebron fans said kyrie couldn’t couldn’t get back to the finals without him 😂
KYRIE HAS LUKA AND A BETTER SUPPORT CAST😅😅😅. C'mon it common sense
Lebron had AD, Wade and Kyrie for all his. @coreythomas3633
I remember Kyrie fans saying the Cavs couldn't get back to the Finals without him. They did...with George Hill as his replacement.
@@JCDenton. MJ INCELS MAD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 MJ 1-9 without Scottie. Cant even get pass the first round with out Scottie pippen. MJ groupies are delusional 😂. Pippen almost made to the ecf. Jordan can't even get in the playoffs without him. 😂 COPE LEBRON GOAT 😂🤡
@@JCDenton. Again kyrie has a better support and better team. That why he in the finals. 😂
Stephen A hates Bron. His tone speaks volumes fr
Mj would’ve left the Bulls if they didn’t have 2 top 75 players in their prime on the team, a luxury Lebron never had
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Besides Pippen, what other top 75 player he play with while playing with Pip? Rodman was 35 & not in his prime when the Spurs traded him.
Can you give a more casual take
Wade & Bosh are both hall of famers & all 3 formed when they were age 25-28. Jordan was 33 Pip 31 & Dennis 35. Jordan never had that luxury. Lebron did.
Folks don't seem to realize that Pippen almost went to the Finals, without Jordan. Michael Jordan never won a ring without Scottie Pippen. All his 6 championships came alongside Pippen who was the team's second star.
Stephen A loves making these Bron takes when Shannon isn’t there
Stephen A uses any chance he can get to try and slight Lebron.
He speaking facts
@@dbutta2496 naw it's just weird...he's become just a black Skip Bayless
@@SGriTa913 he's really not you just ignorant and can't accept facts
He is a hater
@@dbutta2496 No SAS is not speaking facts, he speaks on emotion because of his nostalgia & bias.
BTW- LBJ has more MVP's, Finals MVPs, better & more efficient stats than Kobe. Hold them facts boy
I love D Wade as he is/was my favorite player growing up. But people gotta stop with this “He Didn’t know how to win narrative” that Heat TEAM slaps tf outta any Cavs team Lebron had previous. He made it to the finals and lost cause he had no one to lean on. NO ONE WINS BY THEMSELVES.
No, he learned he can’t win without a superteam. Big difference 😂😅💀
No one wins alone. Jordan didn’t win until he had help. Kobe didn’t win until he had help. The list goes on and on. Go look at those cavs teams LeBron had before he left to try to get a team that could actually compete. You’ll realize you’re wrong.
SAS is the person who thinks his opinion is the ONLY CORRECT one
No Lebron taught Dwade how to win since the Heat stunk without him
@BronGotGame How did Bron teach Wade how to win when Wade had already won a chip with Miami before Bron got there?
@@quis3232 Because Wade only won cuz of Shaq and never sniffed winning without Bron after 06
@@quis3232 I don’t think anyone taught either how to win. A great player needs the right team and coaching staff to win a championship. You can’t win by yourself no matter how great you are.
Exactly
Wade was a champion, Bron was not
And Stephen A wonders why players get at him the way they do. I’m so tired of hearing this dam “stimulus package” with Draymond. Draymond hit 7 threes in game 7. That suspension was warranted given what Draymond was doing those playoffs.
He RAN to D Wade to learn how to win. It’s the 2nd weakest move behind KD running to GSW. Running is running and facts are facts no matter how much you like him.
No way your comparing Lebron joining a washed Dwade to KD joining the prime warriors
What are u even talking about teaming up with ur Bestfriend and teaming up with the best team of all time isn’t the same
The Cavs were better than the Heat in 2010. He just needed some help to win a championship. Wade was losing too around then. It’s not like Lebron had Pat Riley running the show behind the scenes either in Cleveland.
No it wasnt heat was trash before he got there kd went to the greatest team assembled literally stop it
@@datsapaddlin so he needed help like everyone that had one a title it’s just Lebron fans think he didn’t all himself
Lbj didn't say kyrie was his best running mate. He just saying he miss playing with kyrie.
However, don't get it twisted, dwade is lbjs greatest running mate period. Not even for debate.
Lebron was 4 wins away from a championship without Riley, Wade and Spoelstra but didn't know how to win... There's a difference between not knowing how to win and just not winning.
No one describes Bigshot Bob or Derek Fisher's game winning shots as "bailing out" Shaq or Kobe. But they do for Lebron. smh
Good point
He must be getting old he’s arguing two different points. It’s Kyrie how you gone tell Bron he’s wrong. Also Wade is older and has the luxury of being surrounded by vets and a better organization unlike what LeBron has in Cleveland not to mention the off court stuff that was going on at the time.
Stephen A is a bigger lebron Hater than skip has ever been. Skip never got this angry or emotional when talking about lebron. Max needs to come back only person that ever challenged this 🤡
I remember this exact segment after the 2016 finals.
Even though this wasn’t the intial question, anybody who disagrees with Stephen A’s take here just simply does not understand basketball. The version of Lebron that allowed him to win with Kyrie does not happen without D Wade facts.
Thank you stephen!!
I am not sure Wade taught Bron how to win. Bron was in the finals in 07.
I think he means championship, but for the Haters, he needs to clear it up better but SAS like creating his own narrative
Going to the Finals and getting swept on 35% shooting & 22ppg is not the definition of being a winner. While I don’t believe Wade taught Bron to win, he helped him tremendously.
Oh bron and JJ new pod dropped lol im like why is this a topic 😂😂
You can feel the hate on stephen a smith when he said lebron is at home right now 😂😂
This is to Stephen A Smith
1. When warriors won first title Kyrie was injured
2. Second ring Kd. Was there they won
3. Third Ring Chris Paul gotten injured from the from the play in the Houston vs golden state series
There’s some luck everywhere in nba championships it’s part of the game.
SAS turned into Skip Bayless!🤣