What an amazing concept on how to use a paramotor. Your demonstration videos are great Chris, please keep them coming to share your experience. Seeing an expert from a students perspective can be so helpful.
A good example of using the zero in soaring. I've noticed that it's currently the only concept with which I have a good feeling near the terrain. Because of the good agility.
“This harness flies good. It flies as good as any pod harness.” That is exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you! We know it’s a bad paramotor because Miro said so. What’s so cool is that it seems like a good paraglider!
If your feet go too much upward when hitting full throttle in a way it is getting uncomfortable, you should shorten the side straps. that way you will be more ballanced and the engine will only push forward and less upward. the trade off is that your risers are closer to your chest. once you have found the right setting it is a real joy even on full throttle.
My initial thought is that electric motor would have been a better choice for these quick blips to the ridge. And if the prop could lock in a vertical position and the cage fold back into a vertical stabilizer like configuration, drag would be greatly reduced. One lever, just like flaps on a plane.
If 20 to 30min powered fligh is enough for you the electric will definitely work for you. But this Zero excells on XC flights with thermal conditions. Something regular PPGs rather avoid and regular PGs seek. And instead of bombing out in the planes on a XC fligh you simply restart the engine to get to the next lift. It's a game changer. You learn faster get more air time and that's fun.
@@JohnHansknechtIt's got a 6 liter / 1.6 gallon tank and the only reason why Chris ran out of fuel was because he started with an almost empty tank. I fly a Zero too. Have three vids on TH-cam so far...the tank is big.
It's a very cool idea - but it screams for an electric version. Or, at the very least, an e-start version. I am curious as to how much fuel it holds - it didn't seem like there was even a liter in that thing.
Thanks for the comment. Zero holds 6l of fuel 2.5 hours of fuel approx. Amazing! The reason I ran out was that I went for a big adventure the day before and then didn't check the fuel at all. I knew I was going to run out. I have gone down the electric rabbit hole a bit and I didn't love it, I did a trip with a pile of batteries, some heavy chargers, and some generators and found that I was doing a lot of charging and not much flying. It was a pain moving batteries and chargers in and out of a hotel. I also had some scary experiences, swollen batteries and saw one runaway motor.
I don't know what the atom is like, but the pull starters are prone to failure on the mosters. Seems like a bad idea to have to pull start every time you want power. And leaving a 2 stroke idling or even just at low rpm isn't great. An electric motor would be heaps better, just for the lack of maintenance and reliability and not having to start and kill an engine. If there are good thermals about, you shouldn't need much run time at all. Also in general, it seems like people who are into freeflight and XC flying don't really like the whole 2 stroke thing
@@MrTL3wis Obviously it isn't as good, but you wouldn't need much for this if you're actually planning on staying up without power. I do both paramotoring and free flight, and if the intention was just to get height to catch thermals, I would far prefer a short run time with none of the additional drama that a 2 stroke introduces
It's very easy to start midair. You just prime it by squeezing the pump two three times and then one pull will bring her up. I had to land on one of my first flights because I had forgotten about this feature. Part of the learning curve.
I’m a free flight pilot and have been interested in PPG just so I can get flights after work near home, but am not as interested in PPG as I am PG, but now that this is out, this is exactly what I want for my local after work flying that I want to be able to do. So, how much are they?? I think I saw something around the 8,500 euro mark somewhere, but how much in usd to buy here? I’m in California btw.
@@SuperFlyParaglidingSchool yea, so that’s like $10k😳 or somewhere around there. Seems steep, but such an amazing concept. Have you seen the one in German with the ducted fan? That one looks really cool.
Hey Chris, nice review! Hope you will have plenty of great airtime with the Scout Zero! How much gas did you take? The tank holds over 1.3 gallons but it looked like you just put three drops in 😅 you get over 2h of engine fligh time with full tank. The Atom 80 ain't thirsty.
For sure - I put a little note in the description but I went for a nice long adventure the day before and didn't add gas or check gas. No doubt 2 hours + of gas is amazing.
I would see no reason why this could not be locked in the upright position, and would do well for a lighter person as myself (130 lbs.). Not much range, but nice for recreational purposes. Could be super for many PPG schools for training purposes!
Thanks for the comment - two things that have come to light/deserve clarification. One is that Miro the designer watched my video and says I need to tighten up the shoulder straps. Also, reminding me that he describes this in his TH-cam videos. Also - there’s 2 1/2 hours of fuel available and that should be plenty.
Note: the reason that I ran out of gas was because I flew the motor the day before, and had a big adventure. I didn’t check the gas level and I just sent it with the remaining gas knowing that I would run out quite soon. It really does hold a lot of gas - enough to go fly for a good long while. I got far more than 30 minutes out of it. Sorry that I didn't keep exact track of the fuel burn. Fuel capacity is 6l. Should be more than 2 hours.
@@SuperFlyParaglidingSchool thats better then i was thinking, I haven’t flown the Adam 80 but both my motors are the 185 moster‘s they burn about a little over a gallon per hour.
The DREAMER in you is contagious! Love your delight in new gear! And "small" new experiences. That's the life.
What an amazing concept on how to use a paramotor. Your demonstration videos are great Chris, please keep them coming to share your experience. Seeing an expert from a students perspective can be so helpful.
Fantastic!!!
I always appreciate your motivation, experience, and most excellent instruction and insights.
Thanks to you and the team 🪂
A good example of using the zero in soaring. I've noticed that it's currently the only concept with which I have a good feeling near the terrain. Because of the good agility.
Looks pretty sweet! The technology is getting closer and closer to me getting a motor...I want to see you sunset soaring Lone peak!
“This harness flies good. It flies as good as any pod harness.” That is exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you! We know it’s a bad paramotor because Miro said so. What’s so cool is that it seems like a good paraglider!
If your feet go too much upward when hitting full throttle in a way it is getting uncomfortable, you should shorten the side straps. that way you will be more ballanced and the engine will only push forward and less upward. the trade off is that your risers are closer to your chest. once you have found the right setting it is a real joy even on full throttle.
Good stuff Chris! I can see you had an awesome time on it. Best, Rob ^^
Awesome demo flight
My initial thought is that electric motor would have been a better choice for these quick blips to the ridge. And if the prop could lock in a vertical position and the cage fold back into a vertical stabilizer like configuration, drag would be greatly reduced. One lever, just like flaps on a plane.
If 20 to 30min powered fligh is enough for you the electric will definitely work for you. But this Zero excells on XC flights with thermal conditions. Something regular PPGs rather avoid and regular PGs seek. And instead of bombing out in the planes on a XC fligh you simply restart the engine to get to the next lift. It's a game changer. You learn faster get more air time and that's fun.
@haukeplambeck this zero carries very little fuel unless I'm mistaken.
@@JohnHansknechtIt's got a 6 liter / 1.6 gallon tank and the only reason why Chris ran out of fuel was because he started with an almost empty tank. I fly a Zero too. Have three vids on TH-cam so far...the tank is big.
What a SWEEEET new toy and informative/entertaining vid of it -nice! Have fun at Lone Peak and the Bird! Maybe extra gas aboard jaja
It's a very cool idea - but it screams for an electric version. Or, at the very least, an e-start version. I am curious as to how much fuel it holds - it didn't seem like there was even a liter in that thing.
Thanks for the comment. Zero holds 6l of fuel 2.5 hours of fuel approx. Amazing! The reason I ran out was that I went for a big adventure the day before and then didn't check the fuel at all. I knew I was going to run out. I have gone down the electric rabbit hole a bit and I didn't love it, I did a trip with a pile of batteries, some heavy chargers, and some generators and found that I was doing a lot of charging and not much flying. It was a pain moving batteries and chargers in and out of a hotel. I also had some scary experiences, swollen batteries and saw one runaway motor.
Very cool Chris
I don't know what the atom is like, but the pull starters are prone to failure on the mosters. Seems like a bad idea to have to pull start every time you want power. And leaving a 2 stroke idling or even just at low rpm isn't great. An electric motor would be heaps better, just for the lack of maintenance and reliability and not having to start and kill an engine. If there are good thermals about, you shouldn't need much run time at all. Also in general, it seems like people who are into freeflight and XC flying don't really like the whole 2 stroke thing
Energy density. How many electric airplanes do you see?
@@MrTL3wis Obviously it isn't as good, but you wouldn't need much for this if you're actually planning on staying up without power. I do both paramotoring and free flight, and if the intention was just to get height to catch thermals, I would far prefer a short run time with none of the additional drama that a 2 stroke introduces
Scout Zero + EFI is going to be a gamechanger...no pull starts midair
It's very easy to start midair. You just prime it by squeezing the pump two three times and then one pull will bring her up. I had to land on one of my first flights because I had forgotten about this feature. Part of the learning curve.
@@haukeplambeck No doubt. Just thinking of the future with the announcement of Vittorazi's EFI motor. :)
Do you get this setup with an electric too? Now this I'll be something...
I’m a free flight pilot and have been interested in PPG just so I can get flights after work near home, but am not as interested in PPG as I am PG, but now that this is out, this is exactly what I want for my local after work flying that I want to be able to do. So, how much are they?? I think I saw something around the 8,500 euro mark somewhere, but how much in usd to buy here? I’m in California btw.
Did some checking - $9150 shipped to your door. Amazing.
@@SuperFlyParaglidingSchool yea, so that’s like $10k😳 or somewhere around there. Seems steep, but such an amazing concept. Have you seen the one in German with the ducted fan? That one looks really cool.
If you're into PG you will love this. It's much lighter than a PPG no spares and you get 100% free fligh felling. I have one and I love it.
Santa the legend, enjoyed your coaching 15 years ago.
Hey Chris, nice review! Hope you will have plenty of great airtime with the Scout Zero!
How much gas did you take? The tank holds over 1.3 gallons but it looked like you just put three drops in 😅 you get over 2h of engine fligh time with full tank. The Atom 80 ain't thirsty.
For sure - I put a little note in the description but I went for a nice long adventure the day before and didn't add gas or check gas. No doubt 2 hours + of gas is amazing.
Stoke!!😊👍
Awesome!
Nice!
So I can fly my paramotor from Point of the mountain if it’s electric?
I would see no reason why this could not be locked in the upright position, and would do well for a lighter person as myself (130 lbs.). Not much range, but nice for recreational purposes. Could be super for many PPG schools for training purposes!
Thanks for the comment - two things that have come to light/deserve clarification. One is that Miro the designer watched my video and says I need to tighten up the shoulder straps. Also, reminding me that he describes this in his TH-cam videos. Also - there’s 2 1/2 hours of fuel available and that should be plenty.
Nice! Chris how far was that mountain, I thought Scout Zero had enough fuel for about two hours.
Stock gas-bladder is abut 30 minutes.
Note: the reason that I ran out of gas was because I flew the motor the day before, and had a big adventure. I didn’t check the gas level and I just sent it with the remaining gas knowing that I would run out quite soon. It really does hold a lot of gas - enough to go fly for a good long while. I got far more than 30 minutes out of it. Sorry that I didn't keep exact track of the fuel burn. Fuel capacity is 6l. Should be more than 2 hours.
@@SuperFlyParaglidingSchool thats better then i was thinking, I haven’t flown the Adam 80 but both my motors are the 185 moster‘s they burn about a little over a gallon per hour.
Where is the fuel tank!?
Cost as much as 3 paragliders ... thats a big no no for me. Other then that I love the idea.
Auronomi ?
Serious question because I honestly don't know the answer. Does this fall under FAR 103?
Yes
Yes. Far 103 basically means under 254 lbs and under 5 gallons of fuel, so this is definitely there