It’s the Courier. Nate (the sole survivor) has pre war military training which allows him to take on most common threats like raiders and ferals. Some of the mutated wildlife and the Super Mutants will give him trouble at first, but as he adapts to the wild wasteland, he learns to hold his own. However he is a newcomer, the Courier has grown up in the wasteland. The courier is a seasoned vet with such an open backstory that they can be anything we imagine.
@@ColaCrit wow half of the perks are just. ordinary skills that the courier can just minmax anyway. wow. also it *is* possible to get 100 in every skill and 10 in every special stat in new vegas but it is EXTREMELY difficult to do so.
I'll say more: i do believe that when House goes to space 100 years after his ending courier becomes new owner of Vegas rulling people who refused to go to space with House
It's clearly John Fallout. He would wipe the floor with all of the protagonists at the same time as soon as he gets his 2000 bottlecaps... War doesn't change or something idk
I get it, The Chosen One is a walking god of death that went toe to toe with Frank Horrigan.... But jfc Sixer is absurdly op by feats alone. I think the Sole Survivor is underrated but Sixer is a different level of insane
The Chosen one is stacked, there's no denying it. He was the one to walk out of a room with Frank Horrigan. But Six? Six is the man who raced death, twice and won.
@@ninethieplays and who fought the other 2 charcter with max special stats of yeh i forgot the couriur fights two of them because of the divide and if u say tenlers are nothing they rip deathclaws apart and he took two shots to the head conirmed by legate lanius in when u speak cheak him
I respect the courier glazers for trying their best to defend fallout's best boy but clearly the lone wanderer, solely because he has a spaceship that can terraform the earth.
8:20 i mean who wouldn't want to have veteran of the bloodiest war in history of mankind as the leader of the faction that is mainly based on idealisation of revolutionary times USA ideas, person who killed 13+ raiders while being armoured with 10mm pistol and then beat the shit out of deathclaw in a span of 20 minutes is a type of person that would make a good leader
@@ninethieplays forgot to add: beat the shit out of a deathclaw while encountering it for the first time in a life. Even a experienced vet would have at least a little accuracy when seeing GIANT RADIOACTIVE FUCKING DINOSAUR guess Nate was so angry that deathclaw was exactly that type of enemy to chill the fuck out a little
I think in this debate it's worth considering the meta aspects of character stats. For example, the Vault Dweller, Lone Wanderer, and Courier all have level limits, and thus also perk limits. Fallout 1 gives a maximum of seven perks from level-ups, New Vegas twenty-five, and Fallout 3 thirty. Whereas the Chosen One, Sole Survivor, and Reclaimer have no level caps, and so can theoretically get every perk in their lists if they continue long enough. SPECIAL and skill point distribution also varies. Maximum in all SPECIAL is easily achievable in 3, 4, and 76, but impossible in the classic games and Vegas, while maximum in all skills is theoretically doable in 2, 3, and Vegas, but impossible in 1. Equipment, lore, and story feats obviously make the bigger difference, but if it were just down to stats alone, I'd definitely give it to the Sole Survivor or Reclaimer.
The reclaimer is just Nate without the trauma. 5-10 years older and multiple Appliatia is just filled with a bunch of Nate’s building stuff and blowing up monsters with exstream prejudice. mostly complete alone as everyone else died in the hellscap they walked into. Hell the only reason why people even came back is because they killed everything that was killing everything to the point of extinction.
Both the courier and the reclaimer become litteral one man armies in there end game. Each of them having weapons of mass destruction and being literal super soldiers, slaying the most fearsome creatures the wastlend had to offer.
@@vanillachungus9546 Thing is it's not something the others haven't done in a similar regard you know? They all basically encountered an army of supermutants and walked them at some point in their story.
I just realised, fallout 3 has snippets of fallout 1’s story: getting kicked out of your vault and water purifier. I know in fallout 1 it’s a water chip but it’s similar. You also convince the leader of a faction to endgame himself like in fallout 1 with the master
It should be noted the Courier fights 3 people with stats comparable to Frank Horrigan (Magnus Gaius, Colonel Royez, and Ulyessus) Who all have back up in either the form of a platoon of soldiers or medical and assistance bots. As well as has access to ARCHEMEDIAS II which gives them infinitely the best chance in the Mojave. Lastly, they're the most likely to have the Highest Total S.P.E.C.I.A.Ls given +1 to all of them from Implants, + Sub-Dermal, + Phoenix, +2 Strength and +2 DT from Reinforced Spine, as well with Brainless (minimum +1 DT) their head can't be crippled. Also have the MKII Stealth Suit that gives +1 AGL and PER for a base increase of +3 Strength, AGL, PER, +1 END, CHR, INT, LCK. For a total of +13 BST, and +7 DT. No Perks. The Courier could have 12 Strength making them Canonically stronger than Frank Horrigan and by a decent margin. Oh and their VATS being the kind that fully stops time while assessing the situation (I know technically it was a gameplay difference but still technically stands) makes them a more effective VATS user than Sole Survivor. Also the Karma Perks from Fallout negate the OP Crit Shotgun of Fallout 3. Negating both of them. They also have access to the AMR which is easily one of the strongest weapons in all of Fallout. Overall, the Courier is easily a walking force of nature, and is likely the strongest protag (A full Intense Training Courier's finial stats could be, 12 STR, 12 PER, 10 END, 10 CHR, 10 INT, 12 AGL, 10 LCK, and +7 (Or more) natural DT, with Remanents Power Armor, that's 44.1, with both Toughness that's a DT of 50.4, which is wild, also with Nerd Rage that could go up to a DT of 66.2 against melee or energy weapons with respective perks it's it goes up to 71.4, also immune to Critical Hits.) Effectively meaning the courier could make Frank Horrigan look like a fucking child. With double the DT, and up to a little more than 3x the damage threshold with just nerd rage if not more with respective perks. Also Remnants armor gives +1 STR, so 13 STR now for a BST of 77 with a DT of 50.4 up to 71.4, and 100 in nearly every skill. Also a perk like Solar Powered makes Strength go up to 15, and nerd rage makes it go up to a stagger 16 total. For a BST of 80. And an HP of 675 without any consumables. Also natural regen.) Also with life giver, he has a total HP of a base being
The courier did a lot before he was shot in the head. He created the divide and traveled hundreds of miles through the wasteland and creatures and environments that want to kill or even eat you that inhabit it to end up where he is. He is known and already has a reputation across America from his actions. Folks avoid him and folks hate him or love him from his past. He already started out as a strong mf before he started at lvl 1 in good springs and Ulysses talks about it and you get a hint in primm about when the other courier knew u and chose to let u take the chip. I think u may find them later and ask questions too but i dont remember.
Courier didn't create the Divide. The idiots who messed with the device with the launch codes that Courier delivered to them were responsible. If anything Courier's pre-Benny reputation is based mostly on what other have done. Sure shooting the messenger is a bad idea as Benny found out the hard way. . .but nothing says the messenger can't take the blame.
Hopefully! I love talking about Fallout so if this takes off and you're all ok with it I'd really like to continue doing a blend of the two! (I'd also love to edit Elden Ring but I don't think that'd be the right direction right now)
I think you left out the fact the Reclaimer is able to swap their perks and points on the fly and legendary perks as well. I got more to say but it’d be too long here.
Hey, when was it confirmed that the reclaimor was genetically engineered to be a super soldier? I haven't played 76 in over 3 years, so I don't remember much on this topic
Certain creature boss fights are canonical and it's stated throughout they'd be impossible to beat without "enhancements" it entirely depends on how much of 76 Bethesda wants to recognise as "canon" so for now all we can do is safely assume they've got the enhancements given they're a key story beat
Sole Survivor is the strongest and everything else is up to you to deal with. He has an army of scientists with infinite teleportation and synthesizers at his side or possibly even a coalition of BoS, Railroad and Minutemen who may have settlements and military outposts throughout the region. If we talk about individual combat in Fallout 4, it indicates that he was not just a soldier but a war veteran, that is, unlike the others, he underwent military training and has basic survival knowledge, and even though things from pre-war to post-war have changed, much of his knowledge, experience and skills can be very useful....
You're right I didn't take mindset in to account when I picked Pioneer over Courier but you're right the Pioneers don't really have the drive whatsoever. Yes they are ungodly powerful. I can easily say they can 1 v every other protagonist together but yeah I don't think they'd have the drive. In all honesty I'd still say Pioneer is batshit powerful but Courier will definitely still cling on based on the fact he's a cyborg near the end.
This list is based on personal bias not facts as Chosen one solos courier. Frank Horrigan would rip courier in half, Chosen one defeated Horrigan. Courier survived benny? Impressive feat, chosen one surviving Horrigan, how many can say that? Horrigan ripped a deathclaw in half. Horrigan is basically a super mutant behemoth in power armour with all his stats maxed out. Courier only defeated men. Again whoever made this doesnt know much about fallout lore or is a fan she/him for new vegas.
Always very ironic when someone calls someone else unknowing of lore when they make a statement that is factually in correct. The Chosen one did not defeat Frank Horrigan, they survived him. In a room full of turrets, Enclave elite soldiers, a mad man and a mutant only one limped out. Chosen one is stacked but they bleed just like any other man. The Courier was shot in the head, got back up, walked through TWO armies and won a war. Lil different.
Six beats the reclaimer stats for stats + feats. The biggest thing Reclaimer fought is the Ultracite Titan and they didn't do that alone, the biggest thing 6 fought was the roboscorpion and they beat it with fists and hacking. I'd say the Scorpion beats the titan in a 1v1, so on a sheer knockouts rule alone 6 wins. Barely, though.
if you're trying to argue forces, fo1 protagonist is the leader of a big tribe. also fought supermutants at their peak while they were razing the wasteland. don't shit on that guy. nobody cares about fallout 76 so i wont talk about that. but courier doesn't have any feat like horrigan, no lanius is nowhere near horrigan. and courier's a footsoldier, not a general, except in yesman/house endings where they have the securitron forces backing him. the tunnelers are fucking nothing, the dead money enemies were a group effort and it was all planned out by a sociopath genius anyway (elijah). and courier NEVER fought the malpais legate either so idk why you even brought him up. yeah sure courier has big mt implants but the chosen one and the fo1 protag both have a bunch of prewar quality brotherhood of steel implants. in a one on one fight chosen one takes it easy. with all companions, it's really split between chosen one and courier. with forces house/yesman courier would take it but i think the fallout 4 guy can be a leader of the brotherhood of steel and minutemen so he'd beat other couriers with all the warriors. the most impressive feat any of them have is chosen one vs horrigan.
@@ninethieplays no it's not. you can ignore the roboscorpion or just turn it off, besides that it's really not that threatening to just fight normally with any of the many anti robot weapons
@@ninethieplays it's still more of a challenge than the roboscorpion. horrigan at his easiest is harder than roboscorpion at its easiest, and horrigan at his hardest is harder than roboscorpion at its hardest. be consistent and don't cherry pick the versions of each fight you want to spin your narrative
it definitely ain't nate "the rake" lmao. if emil just made up some shit about him completely out of the blue for no reason whatsoever than that's more than enough to put that stuff into question if not outright disregard it entirely.
I personally think that 'The sole survivor' should also be penalized a bit more; Because the player doesn't have to choose Nate. And Nora was a Lawyer. A lawyer! What good is a lawyer in a post-apocalyptic world? What is Nora going to do? Go around suing all the creatures? Yeah, penalty points need to be added. But also The Currier has to face New Vegas Deathclaws that can easily one shot him/her. Casidores are nothing compared to those things. YIKES!
Most of the posters shows Nate, in trailers of 4 it was Nate, Nate was face of fallout 4 promo company this is why many assume that HE IS canon SS and Nora is more of "what if".
@@ninethieplays, Exactly. And Nora can still use power armor right out the gate with NO formal military training. How does that make sense? It doesn't.
@@ninethieplays, Yeah, but there's no other official information than 'Nora was a lawyer'. So speculation aside; There's really no way that Nora should have been logically able to use power armor, unless she got the training from the BoS first. Officially. It's one of the largest plot holes that always bothered me with FO4.
Frick fo3, especially after playing fnv. Guns are weak af id rather fight with a toothpick. And i actually thought of switching from "normal" to "easy". Im not joking. All this difficulty , personally makes the game unenjoyable
Member yall, if we’re going by the dlc, Courier is literally has missing/improved organs.
Big MT is canon so the DLC's are included. 6 is stacked
It’s the Courier. Nate (the sole survivor) has pre war military training which allows him to take on most common threats like raiders and ferals. Some of the mutated wildlife and the Super Mutants will give him trouble at first, but as he adapts to the wild wasteland, he learns to hold his own. However he is a newcomer, the Courier has grown up in the wasteland. The courier is a seasoned vet with such an open backstory that they can be anything we imagine.
The Courier is so OP I can imagine him/her replacing Kimball as president of the NCR or succeeding Caesar after he dies
Courier is HIM
ngl fallout 4's protagonist has no level cap so he can have every perk and every special stat
@@ColaCrit wow half of the perks are just. ordinary skills that the courier can just minmax anyway. wow.
also it *is* possible to get 100 in every skill and 10 in every special stat in new vegas but it is EXTREMELY difficult to do so.
I'll say more: i do believe that when House goes to space 100 years after his ending courier becomes new owner of Vegas rulling people who refused to go to space with House
Bro dropped the hardest courier edit and thought we wouldn’t notice
Courier with mods to all other protagonists:allow me to introduce myself
Bro were talking about vanilla not mods
Nate looks like he’s midway through enacting his zero Canadians plan.
It's clearly John Fallout. He would wipe the floor with all of the protagonists at the same time as soon as he gets his 2000 bottlecaps...
War doesn't change or something idk
like 360 no scoping some people
Btw john fallout is the couriers son and successor to new vegas.
One got shot in the head and came back by sheer hate and revenge filled will... i think that is a case over for me.
Naaaah, courier was built different from the stary, shot in a head just gave em little push up
@@alexref6074 2 SHOTS said by lanius that i can see the two wounds from bullets apown your face
after which he says rage gave u that power
The courier at full strength is basically a cyborg.
The Courier is practically a Thunder Warrior at this point
You're good at gathering entertaining footage bro.
Thanks my dude haha
I get it, The Chosen One is a walking god of death that went toe to toe with Frank Horrigan.... But jfc Sixer is absurdly op by feats alone. I think the Sole Survivor is underrated but Sixer is a different level of insane
The Chosen one is stacked, there's no denying it.
He was the one to walk out of a room with Frank Horrigan.
But Six? Six is the man who raced death, twice and won.
@@ninethieplays and who fought the other 2 charcter with max special stats of yeh i forgot the couriur fights two of them because of the divide and if u say tenlers are nothing they rip deathclaws apart and he took two shots to the head conirmed by legate lanius in when u speak cheak him
“Some would argue”
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I respect the courier glazers for trying their best to defend fallout's best boy but clearly the lone wanderer, solely because he has a spaceship that can terraform the earth.
that Spaceship don't work anymore after turning Europe into Glass... again.
8:20 i mean who wouldn't want to have veteran of the bloodiest war in history of mankind as the leader of the faction that is mainly based on idealisation of revolutionary times USA ideas, person who killed 13+ raiders while being armoured with 10mm pistol and then beat the shit out of deathclaw in a span of 20 minutes is a type of person that would make a good leader
Aye very true this
@@ninethieplays forgot to add: beat the shit out of a deathclaw while encountering it for the first time in a life. Even a experienced vet would have at least a little accuracy when seeing GIANT RADIOACTIVE FUCKING DINOSAUR guess Nate was so angry that deathclaw was exactly that type of enemy to chill the fuck out a little
I think in this debate it's worth considering the meta aspects of character stats. For example, the Vault Dweller, Lone Wanderer, and Courier all have level limits, and thus also perk limits. Fallout 1 gives a maximum of seven perks from level-ups, New Vegas twenty-five, and Fallout 3 thirty. Whereas the Chosen One, Sole Survivor, and Reclaimer have no level caps, and so can theoretically get every perk in their lists if they continue long enough. SPECIAL and skill point distribution also varies. Maximum in all SPECIAL is easily achievable in 3, 4, and 76, but impossible in the classic games and Vegas, while maximum in all skills is theoretically doable in 2, 3, and Vegas, but impossible in 1. Equipment, lore, and story feats obviously make the bigger difference, but if it were just down to stats alone, I'd definitely give it to the Sole Survivor or Reclaimer.
The reclaimer is just Nate without the trauma. 5-10 years older and multiple
Appliatia is just filled with a bunch of Nate’s building stuff and blowing up monsters with exstream prejudice. mostly complete alone as everyone else died in the hellscap they walked into. Hell the only reason why people even came back is because they killed everything that was killing everything to the point of extinction.
Both the courier and the reclaimer become litteral one man armies in there end game. Each of them having weapons of mass destruction and being literal super soldiers, slaying the most fearsome creatures the wastlend had to offer.
They become the embodiment of the apocalypse, in a sense
Y’all forgetting that 101 did all the missions the brotherhood couldn’t even send the LYANS pride for, let alone gallows.
And then some
@@ninethieplays does the fact that 101 stormed vault 87 and fought through all the super mutants also help with his rank?
@@vanillachungus9546 Thing is it's not something the others haven't done in a similar regard you know? They all basically encountered an army of supermutants and walked them at some point in their story.
@@ninethieplays I totally agree and thank you for elaborating!
@@vanillachungus9546 All good! Always happy to have a good discussion!
I just realised, fallout 3 has snippets of fallout 1’s story: getting kicked out of your vault and water purifier. I know in fallout 1 it’s a water chip but it’s similar. You also convince the leader of a faction to endgame himself like in fallout 1 with the master
You did not just call Nate a war criminal. I laughed so hard I cried.
Bro is a walking, talking maniac really
Simple answer courier has implants making him half cyborg and able to slow down time
The reclaimer can get special to 50-60+ that's why I think they the most strongest
Courier is still, statistically and feat speaking stronger.
Tbf, the lone wanderer can wipe out the enclave single handedly, and he's only 19 years old
I haven't seen much to back this up tbh but the Lone Wanderer is strong
Liberty Prime sitting in the corner:
Liberty prime + brotherhood of steel help on the background: "ᵃʳᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ᶠᵘᶜᵏⁱⁿᵍ ᵏⁱᵈᵈⁱⁿᵍ ᵐᵉ﹖﹗"
It should be noted the Courier fights 3 people with stats comparable to Frank Horrigan (Magnus Gaius, Colonel Royez, and Ulyessus) Who all have back up in either the form of a platoon of soldiers or medical and assistance bots. As well as has access to ARCHEMEDIAS II which gives them infinitely the best chance in the Mojave. Lastly, they're the most likely to have the Highest Total S.P.E.C.I.A.Ls given +1 to all of them from Implants, + Sub-Dermal, + Phoenix, +2 Strength and +2 DT from Reinforced Spine, as well with Brainless (minimum +1 DT) their head can't be crippled. Also have the MKII Stealth Suit that gives +1 AGL and PER for a base increase of +3 Strength, AGL, PER, +1 END, CHR, INT, LCK. For a total of +13 BST, and +7 DT. No Perks. The Courier could have 12 Strength making them Canonically stronger than Frank Horrigan and by a decent margin.
Oh and their VATS being the kind that fully stops time while assessing the situation (I know technically it was a gameplay difference but still technically stands) makes them a more effective VATS user than Sole Survivor. Also the Karma Perks from Fallout negate the OP Crit Shotgun of Fallout 3. Negating both of them. They also have access to the AMR which is easily one of the strongest weapons in all of Fallout.
Overall, the Courier is easily a walking force of nature, and is likely the strongest protag
(A full Intense Training Courier's finial stats could be, 12 STR, 12 PER, 10 END, 10 CHR, 10 INT, 12 AGL, 10 LCK, and +7 (Or more) natural DT, with Remanents Power Armor, that's 44.1, with both Toughness that's a DT of 50.4, which is wild, also with Nerd Rage that could go up to a DT of 66.2 against melee or energy weapons with respective perks it's it goes up to 71.4, also immune to Critical Hits.) Effectively meaning the courier could make Frank Horrigan look like a fucking child. With double the DT, and up to a little more than 3x the damage threshold with just nerd rage if not more with respective perks. Also Remnants armor gives +1 STR, so 13 STR now for a BST of 77 with a DT of 50.4 up to 71.4, and 100 in nearly every skill. Also a perk like Solar Powered makes Strength go up to 15, and nerd rage makes it go up to a stagger 16 total. For a BST of 80. And an HP of 675 without any consumables. Also natural regen.)
Also with life giver, he has a total HP of a base being
Didn't the Lone Wanderer fought the Enclave like fodder two times? Once after his dad died and the second after his escaping his captivity?
Aye that we played
@@ninethieplays and a third time after surviving an ungodly amount of rads that are enough to tickle a super mutant
@@itsterres If not counting DLC, he is dead. Literally.
But in broken steal he survives because of DOCTORS FROM BOS, not by himself.
The courier did a lot before he was shot in the head. He created the divide and traveled hundreds of miles through the wasteland and creatures and environments that want to kill or even eat you that inhabit it to end up where he is. He is known and already has a reputation across America from his actions. Folks avoid him and folks hate him or love him from his past. He already started out as a strong mf before he started at lvl 1 in good springs and Ulysses talks about it and you get a hint in primm about when the other courier knew u and chose to let u take the chip. I think u may find them later and ask questions too but i dont remember.
Then dies to Cazadors.
@@thatskeletordude5271 hate those bastards
Courier didn't create the Divide. The idiots who messed with the device with the launch codes that Courier delivered to them were responsible. If anything Courier's pre-Benny reputation is based mostly on what other have done. Sure shooting the messenger is a bad idea as Benny found out the hard way. . .but nothing says the messenger can't take the blame.
Blood true mate.
@@thatskeletordude5271 "ᵃᶜᵗᵘᵃˡˡʸ ᵈᵉᵃᵗʰ ᵗᵒ ᶜʰᵃʳᵉᶜᵗᵉʳˢ ᵃⁱⁿᵗ ᶜᵃⁿᵒⁿ"
The Real Fight here is Bewteen The Chosen one and The courier both of them, the other are not in the same league
I don't even think the 76 Reclaimer stands up to the Courier either
Nah the non cannon Lone Courier is S+
I agree on the protagonists i actually played as. Didn't play 3,4 and 76 yet.
Are you going to do these types of videos regularly between edits?
Hopefully! I love talking about Fallout so if this takes off and you're all ok with it I'd really like to continue doing a blend of the two! (I'd also love to edit Elden Ring but I don't think that'd be the right direction right now)
I think you left out the fact the Reclaimer is able to swap their perks and points on the fly and legendary perks as well. I got more to say but it’d be too long here.
We're not going to talk about a gameplay exclusive feature like its canon lol
You could say the same time that the courier has implant GRX which slows down time completely and a holo rifle that bypasses DT
The the lonewanderer is the strongest because he defeated super mutants and enclave
Hey, when was it confirmed that the reclaimor was genetically engineered to be a super soldier? I haven't played 76 in over 3 years, so I don't remember much on this topic
Certain creature boss fights are canonical and it's stated throughout they'd be impossible to beat without "enhancements" it entirely depends on how much of 76 Bethesda wants to recognise as "canon" so for now all we can do is safely assume they've got the enhancements given they're a key story beat
@ninethieplays ah OK, thank you. I thought for a second they added some new backstory to vault 76
Sole Survivor is the strongest and everything else is up to you to deal with. He has an army of scientists with infinite teleportation and synthesizers at his side or possibly even a coalition of BoS, Railroad and Minutemen who may have settlements and military outposts throughout the region. If we talk about individual combat in Fallout 4, it indicates that he was not just a soldier but a war veteran, that is, unlike the others, he underwent military training and has basic survival knowledge, and even though things from pre-war to post-war have changed, much of his knowledge, experience and skills can be very useful....
Canonically the Institute lost
Kellog bit the curve of the table with a bat in 8:16
yup!
Courier.
pov: the chosen one is a cyborg to
I think this is pretty valid
You're right I didn't take mindset in to account when I picked Pioneer over Courier but you're right the Pioneers don't really have the drive whatsoever. Yes they are ungodly powerful. I can easily say they can 1 v every other protagonist together but yeah I don't think they'd have the drive. In all honesty I'd still say Pioneer is batshit powerful but Courier will definitely still cling on based on the fact he's a cyborg near the end.
Also has access to the best tec we've seen thus far in teh wasteland: Big MT
*me surviving a mini nuke to the face because of my sigma male grindset.
This list is based on personal bias not facts as Chosen one solos courier. Frank Horrigan would rip courier in half, Chosen one defeated Horrigan. Courier survived benny? Impressive feat, chosen one surviving Horrigan, how many can say that? Horrigan ripped a deathclaw in half. Horrigan is basically a super mutant behemoth in power armour with all his stats maxed out. Courier only defeated men. Again whoever made this doesnt know much about fallout lore or is a fan she/him for new vegas.
Always very ironic when someone calls someone else unknowing of lore when they make a statement that is factually in correct.
The Chosen one did not defeat Frank Horrigan, they survived him. In a room full of turrets, Enclave elite soldiers, a mad man and a mutant only one limped out.
Chosen one is stacked but they bleed just like any other man.
The Courier was shot in the head, got back up, walked through TWO armies and won a war.
Lil different.
me obviously 💪
True!
Chosen one literally has Batman plot armor.
Bro built different
@@ninethieplays yes is build different and yet with all the help he had, he had only 50% chance of surviving against Frank
The courier is terrifying. He or she is the strongest by FAR
walky boi with a plan
@@ninethieplays my Nate with Day 1 exploits = Captain America, slayer of Canuck demons (25 Strength, 100 Perception)
Good video,very objective!
Thanks! I try!
i stole this comment,
Courier 6: “I am a courier and I have come to deliver death.”
1. Reclaimer
2. Courier Freaking Six
3. Chosen One
4. Vault Dweller
5. Lone Wanderer or Sole Survivor
6. Never played Tactics...
Six beats the reclaimer stats for stats + feats. The biggest thing Reclaimer fought is the Ultracite Titan and they didn't do that alone, the biggest thing 6 fought was the roboscorpion and they beat it with fists and hacking. I'd say the Scorpion beats the titan in a 1v1, so on a sheer knockouts rule alone 6 wins. Barely, though.
if you're trying to argue forces, fo1 protagonist is the leader of a big tribe. also fought supermutants at their peak while they were razing the wasteland. don't shit on that guy. nobody cares about fallout 76 so i wont talk about that. but courier doesn't have any feat like horrigan, no lanius is nowhere near horrigan. and courier's a footsoldier, not a general, except in yesman/house endings where they have the securitron forces backing him. the tunnelers are fucking nothing, the dead money enemies were a group effort and it was all planned out by a sociopath genius anyway (elijah). and courier NEVER fought the malpais legate either so idk why you even brought him up. yeah sure courier has big mt implants but the chosen one and the fo1 protag both have a bunch of prewar quality brotherhood of steel implants. in a one on one fight chosen one takes it easy. with all companions, it's really split between chosen one and courier. with forces house/yesman courier would take it but i think the fallout 4 guy can be a leader of the brotherhood of steel and minutemen so he'd beat other couriers with all the warriors. the most impressive feat any of them have is chosen one vs horrigan.
stopped reading after you said no feats like Horrigan. 6 beat the giant roboscorpion. Thats above Frank.
@@ninethieplays no it's not. you can ignore the roboscorpion or just turn it off, besides that it's really not that threatening to just fight normally with any of the many anti robot weapons
@@resentedkhumbo7479 You can also bring in enclave soldiers and turn Franks turrets against him so thats kind of a moot point tbh.
@@ninethieplays it's still more of a challenge than the roboscorpion. horrigan at his easiest is harder than roboscorpion at its easiest, and horrigan at his hardest is harder than roboscorpion at its hardest. be consistent and don't cherry pick the versions of each fight you want to spin your narrative
"Communism is the very definition of failure."
I have to play New Vegas,
Recommend it
Max Stone
it definitely ain't nate "the rake" lmao. if emil just made up some shit about him completely out of the blue for no reason whatsoever than that's more than enough to put that stuff into question if not outright disregard it entirely.
Lot of folks using Nate the rake cuz he feels more interesting as concept of character, i know, i know this meme is a little brain rot but still.
gigachadv3 solos
Six > Chosen One > Soul Survivor > Vault Dweller > Lone Wanderer
There is no debate and there never was.
I personally think that 'The sole survivor' should also be penalized a bit more; Because the player doesn't have to choose Nate. And Nora was a Lawyer. A lawyer! What good is a lawyer in a post-apocalyptic world? What is Nora going to do? Go around suing all the creatures? Yeah, penalty points need to be added.
But also The Currier has to face New Vegas Deathclaws that can easily one shot him/her. Casidores are nothing compared to those things. YIKES!
Most of the posters shows Nate, in trailers of 4 it was Nate, Nate was face of fallout 4 promo company this is why many assume that HE IS canon SS and Nora is more of "what if".
Feats don't change in game though
@@ninethieplays,
Exactly. And Nora can still use power armor right out the gate with NO formal military training. How does that make sense? It doesn't.
@@buckrodgers1162 Unless it's a bit of background information indicating Nate was/is a prepper.
@@ninethieplays,
Yeah, but there's no other official information than 'Nora was a lawyer'.
So speculation aside; There's really no way that Nora should have been logically able to use power armor, unless she got the training from the BoS first. Officially.
It's one of the largest plot holes that always bothered me with FO4.
Frick fo3, especially after playing fnv. Guns are weak af id rather fight with a toothpick. And i actually thought of switching from "normal" to "easy". Im not joking. All this difficulty , personally makes the game unenjoyable
The courier is top 1 bc he's bissexual, literally does more dmg bc they're bissexual
An insane feat we love to see
not gonna watch the video just gonna say. Courier 6. End of discussion
Chosen one