Elite AF video. Great detail, the small reel foot is good info for potential consumers to consider. Love that the yoke springs are retained by screws instead of c-clips and that quick access side plate.... the r&d guys must've saw a squidder laying around.
awesome review man. i have to admit, the sound of the spool spinning during casting sounds so satisfying. the performances on the casting is quite impressive too. hope to see some epic fishing action from you haha
My favorite "Guy" for reviews .. I took on your style of honest review and video sharing for my platform... Great video.. Fish on! Tight Lines! ---OFD 🎣
The bolts are designed to be put in the grooves one way. They have a flat spot that allows them to move further outboard. We messed with one at BassPro today after watching this video last night and were able to put it on an 11’ Breakwater. When the counter worker first installed it, we had the same issue you’re experiencing. Took the bolts out and rotated them and it fixed the issue. I don’t know if this was your or anyone else’s issues, but it’s worth noting/looking into.
I have that exact same setup, both rod and reel. I use shrink tubing on the ends of the reel foot and it seems to work just fine. Just enough so that the reel foot fits a little snug and then tighten down. No need for the reel clamp.
Nice reel and a good review. I seriously regret not buying the Squall 15 Casting Special before they rapidly sold out in 2020. The Gen 1 Squall 15 has served me very well for years, and this II CS model is a nice improvement - more line, 5 lb. more drag. I won't make the same mistake twice.
You can get the parts from Penn to change that big knob on the fathom to the dial type and it's two parts. The dial you turn and a screw. And it's basically flush to the side plate.
The review I've been waiting on you to do. I knew they were coming out with the second generation of the squall but also seen some one post on Facebook about the Cs. The reel foot is not an issue for me being I will be getting a new rod to pair this reel with when I get one. Also I just got a abu 7k with the centrifugal brake what would be some mods to get some more distance but still keep the level wind?
Love your channel mate,not having a go at Penn as it least they listened, but amending the issues with their top line reel with the next model down the line seems a bit strange.Obviously in the short term it is cheaper to re tool the squall production line.
Easy solution for the screws. Take a Dremel tool or a small file and file about a 1/16 to 1/8 to the sides. You will not weaken the clamp. It only take a few minutes. Like fishing improvise.
Thank you for this video! I had no idea how the magnet system worked because mine arrived without a user manual. You’d think it would be easy to find one online but no! I must have watched over a dozen videos and this is the first I’ve found that explained it in detail. Much appreciated, now maybe I can avoid the rats nests!
With the fathom cs, for the knob I believe you can rotate the plate so the knob is in a better position, the writing will be upside down but it should works fine
God damn it man I really spent $280 on the fathom and I just wanted something simple for the beach. FML, Carlos you better chill bro finna make me buy all the damn penn reels
Thanx for the review, good to know about the reel foot issues, I have HDX, LDX, and CCP rods. I think I'll pass and stick with my all metal Akios, Avet, and modded Abu reels.
Great channel, super helpful videos, appreciate what you do very much, thank you! Question, what is the inside distance between the screws on the reel foot? I'd like to pick one up, but want to be sure it'll fit on my rod before I do. Rod is an Ocean Master.
The Penn fathom ll casting special. We don't use the reel clamps when fishing with beach casting /surf casting rods. The clamps are normally used on boat rods. Providing your reel seat is wide enough to take the reel foot. You don't need the clamp.
@@BeachBomberFishing hey my longest cast on the fathomll is 138yards (sinker no bait). I’m looking at some of those low profile squalls now. I like mag only brakes and I think the squalls are mag only and the fathom low profiles are dual brakes.
Been waiting for something to replace my sl20sh. The fathom version had terrible cast control placement. I'm not worried about the graphite frame not holding up. Some of the local public fishing boats have been using squalls as rental gear for years. Plus my daiwa sl20sh has held up to school tuna for years.
Great review. Reel seat issue: possibly designed to fit on raw blank. In the Northeast, where most guys fish Van Staal, they use black electric tape, no reel seats or clamps. Lighter weight, more continuous rod flex, and no wobble or play in the rod to reel fit.
@@sentient8146 Do you fish out of Montauk Point, Long Island ? I could be wrong but that is my recollection. The rods had no reel seats. The locals may have used some form of reel clamps, but not that I ever noticed. Just a lot of black electric tape.
Ok you have sold me on getting this for my 10'6 st croix mojo surf for drum and for the smaller sharks I'm sure I will catch as well. How much mono backing do you normally put on your reels?
I wouldn't worry about the grease so much but I normally swap out the bearings. Can't go wrong with boca ceramic bearings! A lot of avid fishermen swear by em
I have a baitcast reel and I was really hammered with birds nest no matter how I set the drag to work on my Bait's weight, and when I tried my Friend's spinning reel it's just so easy to cast and cast so far. So I am planning to buy another rig this time it will be a spinning reel. As for beginners go with the spinning reel or you will be consuming a lot of your time dealing with birdsnest issue.
I just bought my second penn 15cs the spool seems to have more drag then the other. I had everything backed off and it still seems to have to much drag when casting. Do you have any suggestions???
i have the spool tension knob tightened all the way. no play in spool. 4 ounce weight drops and does not nest. mounted on 12 ft penn rod. i can throw 50 to 75 yards max. no birds nest at all. once i loosen the spool tension knob a little i get birds nest when i throw it unless i keep my thumb on the spool. i want to get more distance but it birds nest city. any tips thx
A couple years ago at the Fred Hall show I went to the pin display and spoke with the available staff and expressed my dissatisfaction with one of the models of reels, the sales person or rep was so rude!!! I simply asked her why this model had so many problems? But his answer was, maybe you shouldn’t be so cheap and buy a better model and you won’t be having problems ! So I guess they don’t stand for their less expensive reels only the high dollars. I will never buy another pin reel again. My collection of pins including 30 SW Santa will be replaced by Shimano !
HI there. What diameter rod real seat will fit between the bolts? I'm really interested in this real but this issue could be a deal breaker. I will measure the 10ft Okuma Razor rod I was thinking of using. It has a fuji reel seat which is small. Thanks for the great video. It was very helpful. I think Penn needs to take their blinkers off.
Man, i’m not trying to talk smack but you’re voice and the music in the background reminds of The movie Surfs Up when Tank is showing off his trophies lol
How did you get the grease out of the reel? Does it have to be disassembled to clean the guts? Please demonstrate putting the reel on the rod. Thanks man
Great review man. Question, why does your Squall 2 have white lettering, while all the ones I see at the store and online have gold lettering. I think the white looks pretty darn cool, but can’t find that. Thankyou!
I purchased them both was lucky to order the fathom off Amazon but it was out of stock at the time so I waited like 6 weeks but I’ve used it for quite some time and the fathom has a aluminum construction but both have shielded bearings but tbh just get the squall it’s so lighter and you can change out your bearings when they get old at any reel repair store
@@leonardothelion9091 I settled for the Squall 15 cs. My local tackle shop had one and after 10 minutes of it came along with me. What a difference those magnets make! I can’t go back to normal.
@@otroflores91 I use coasters but I see on the latest Century rods there using a locking sliding seat I think its Fuji. I have seen others that lock when the reel is secured.
@@BeachBomberFishing, thanks man. I dont own any baitcaster or conventional reels because I'm kind if intimidated on the maintenance. It would be nice to see a tutorial of it being done correctly.
Dear Mr Whats is the Best size 15, Squall or Phathon? I notice the modes SD for SDCS is difference, i need to buy with a 100% correct because i will buy on ebay, i live in Brasil and hee Penn does not have official sellers. Thanks!
I purchased both the fathom cs and squall cs to compare them both and I’d say that the fathom does have better bearing and construction design was thinking of returning it to Amazon to buy another squall but idk lol
@@gonzarb93 tbh bro I own both and they both spin fast af for over a minute but the fathom can hold more line capacity and I love the aluminum frame but both are great choices
Hey bro, do you think it’s possible to cast a reel that has no mag at all? I have a squall (no mag) and have been wondering if it’s worth trying at the beach.
@Brandon C, yes but find a good rod to pair with, make sure the rod loads weight well to get the most out of your cast, theyres guys casting old school penn senator 6/0s and 80lb mono almost 130yrds, its all about technique and a good rod, id start of with straight mono, more foregiving if you do birdsnest
Thank you for your reviews Very informative. I'm gutted that they don't make these in left hand wind Here in New Zealand its really hard to interest the shops or importers to obtain LH casting reels I have a factory Penn LH wind Jigmaster 500, but as it has no braking system, its often birds nest city here LOL Keep up the good work and take care Cheers Pete
Beach bomber, I enjoy your surf casting videos and will continue to watch your videos. The reel is not on the penn website, ebay, Amazon, or anywhere I look.. it would be elite af if you could help point us in the right direction. Thanks in advance.
@@zachhurley5286 unfortunately no. I contacted Penn customer service at the time of this post and they informed me that it would be July before they started sending them out. Here its October and I've yet to see one.
Elite AF video. Great detail, the small reel foot is good info for potential consumers to consider. Love that the yoke springs are retained by screws instead of c-clips and that quick access side plate.... the r&d guys must've saw a squidder laying around.
This was helpful big time cause not all of us have penn rods I felt that really help me decide thanks so much for this video.
awesome review man. i have to admit, the sound of the spool spinning during casting sounds so satisfying. the performances on the casting is quite impressive too. hope to see some epic fishing action from you haha
My favorite "Guy" for reviews .. I took on your style of honest review and video sharing for my platform... Great video.. Fish on! Tight Lines! ---OFD 🎣
Thanks for the review, just got mine today, excited to test it out
The bolts are designed to be put in the grooves one way. They have a flat spot that allows them to move further outboard. We messed with one at BassPro today after watching this video last night and were able to put it on an 11’ Breakwater. When the counter worker first installed it, we had the same issue you’re experiencing. Took the bolts out and rotated them and it fixed the issue. I don’t know if this was your or anyone else’s issues, but it’s worth noting/looking into.
I work at BPS, thinking about ordering one to put on my 11’ breakwater
I have that exact same setup, both rod and reel. I use shrink tubing on the ends of the reel foot and it seems to work just fine. Just enough so that the reel foot fits a little snug and then tighten down. No need for the reel clamp.
Proud new member of the Cartel! Fish on!
Great video! Thanks for the really detailed look and your personal thoughts.
Nice reel and a good review. I seriously regret not buying the Squall 15 Casting Special before they rapidly sold out in 2020. The Gen 1 Squall 15 has served me very well for years, and this II CS model is a nice improvement - more line, 5 lb. more drag. I won't make the same mistake twice.
It's on cabelas and bass pro right now buddy
Thank you! Most excellent review. You are a consumate professional narrator and host. Keep up the excellent work. Tops in my book!
I got mine two days ago and its awesome man thank bud
Great to see a new video!! Time for a new budget rod video to replace the ocean master. Can't find them anymore online.
Where you been at bro? Glad your back in the action.Nice review
So glad they have changed the mag position just what we needed I would still like to see a slightly smaller mag nob looks a good reel
You can get the parts from Penn to change that big knob on the fathom to the dial type and it's two parts. The dial you turn and a screw. And it's basically flush to the side plate.
The review I've been waiting on you to do. I knew they were coming out with the second generation of the squall but also seen some one post on Facebook about the Cs. The reel foot is not an issue for me being I will be getting a new rod to pair this reel with when I get one. Also I just got a abu 7k with the centrifugal brake what would be some mods to get some more distance but still keep the level wind?
Thanks for the info! I guess the way to buy this reel is as a rod n reel combo! Might not be a bad deal, I'll have to check it out.
Love your channel mate,not having a go at Penn as it least they listened, but amending the issues with their top line reel with the next model down the line seems a bit strange.Obviously in the short term it is cheaper to re tool the squall production line.
Easy solution for the screws. Take a Dremel tool or a small file and file about a 1/16 to 1/8 to the sides. You will not weaken the clamp. It only take a few minutes. Like fishing improvise.
Thank you for this video! I had no idea how the magnet system worked because mine arrived without a user manual. You’d think it would be easy to find one online but no! I must have watched over a dozen videos and this is the first I’ve found that explained it in detail. Much appreciated, now maybe I can avoid the rats nests!
With the fathom cs, for the knob I believe you can rotate the plate so the knob is in a better position, the writing will be upside down but it should works fine
I just bought 2 of the Fathom 2 casting specials... waiting on them from UK. Is this for real you can rotate the side plate??
Thx for the video, very helpful
Thank you for watching
God damn it man I really spent $280 on the fathom and I just wanted something simple for the beach. FML, Carlos you better chill bro finna make me buy all the damn penn reels
Do it! If you don't like it, you can sell it! You will have fun figuring it out.
Thanx for the review, good to know about the reel foot issues, I have HDX, LDX, and CCP rods. I think I'll pass and stick with my all metal Akios, Avet, and modded Abu reels.
Great channel, super helpful videos, appreciate what you do very much, thank you! Question, what is the inside distance between the screws on the reel foot? I'd like to pick one up, but want to be sure it'll fit on my rod before I do. Rod is an Ocean Master.
Yes bro, that's exactly why they do that!! Shimano has a similar problem. I've been told this by my rod builder.. unfortunately, it is what it is🤙❤️👊
The Penn fathom ll casting special. We don't use the reel clamps when fishing with beach casting /surf casting rods. The clamps are normally used on boat rods. Providing your reel seat is wide enough to take the reel foot. You don't need the clamp.
So wish I could come down from San antonio and get it done but thanks for all these great videos either way
Glad you back bubba. It seems a while since I last seen you.
Been about a month man
@@BeachBomberFishing hey my longest cast on the fathomll is 138yards (sinker no bait). I’m looking at some of those low profile squalls now. I like mag only brakes and I think the squalls are mag only and the fathom low profiles are dual brakes.
@@BoandBeceadventures you tried the low profiles squalls for surf fishing with sinker?
Been waiting for something to replace my sl20sh. The fathom version had terrible cast control placement. I'm not worried about the graphite frame not holding up. Some of the local public fishing boats have been using squalls as rental gear for years. Plus my daiwa sl20sh has held up to school tuna for years.
If the slosh held up, this will hold up too.
When you adjust the mag during the cast are you reducing the magnetic brake I assume?
Excelente Review. Saludos desde Argentina
Great review. Reel seat issue: possibly designed to fit on raw blank. In the Northeast, where most guys fish Van Staal, they use black electric tape, no reel seats or clamps. Lighter weight, more continuous rod flex, and no wobble or play in the rod to reel fit.
i’m in the northeast and I wouldn’t say “most” people in the NE. At least not the googans I fish with.
@@sentient8146 Do you fish out of Montauk Point, Long Island ? I could be wrong but that is my recollection. The rods had no reel seats. The locals may have used some form of reel clamps, but not that I ever noticed. Just a lot of black electric tape.
Good review! These haven't arrived in England yet, but I think I might have to get one of these when they do - I always find penn reels very reliable.
Just got me one and just wondering what kind of modification or oil did you used for better long casting distance
I have level wind version. Now I bought a 11foot berry pole surf rod and no problems putting reel on with clamp
Great Informative video.
So my question is which performs better? Fathom CS or this new squall 2 CS?🤔
I put my fathom on a 12 ft prevail 3 rod and also was a tight fit. Got it on but not without scratching up the reel seat
Prevail 2 I meant.
Ok you have sold me on getting this for my 10'6 st croix mojo surf for drum and for the smaller sharks I'm sure I will catch as well. How much mono backing do you normally put on your reels?
great video man, quick question. when new reels do you clean out the factory grease and use new grease ? what about the ball bearings?
I wouldn't worry about the grease so much but I normally swap out the bearings. Can't go wrong with boca ceramic bearings! A lot of avid fishermen swear by em
@@adamthomas4462 appreciate the advice.
If you let your line and sinker down a little bit more i bet your cast will sling shot further. I like watching your vids. Keep up the good work budz
I have a baitcast reel and I was really hammered with birds nest no matter how I set the drag to work on my Bait's weight, and when I tried my Friend's spinning reel it's just so easy to cast and cast so far. So I am planning to buy another rig this time it will be a spinning reel. As for beginners go with the spinning reel or you will be consuming a lot of your time dealing with birdsnest issue.
Great review happy holidays to you and the fam
Do you tie the braid directly to the reel or what do you do? What kind of knot do you use?
Nice - I have a 12' Penn carbon fiber surf rod so it should fit OK.
Any tutorials on which grease or oil to use to improve distance?
I just bought my second penn 15cs the spool seems to have more drag then the other. I had everything backed off and it still seems to have to much drag when casting. Do you have any suggestions???
Very smoooothhhhhh lol good stuff bro
Have you tried berry pole ?
I heard they work well with conventional reels
What do you think about this reel for tossing surface iron at yellowtail?
i have the spool tension knob tightened all the way. no play in spool. 4 ounce weight drops and does not nest. mounted on 12 ft penn rod. i can throw 50 to 75 yards max. no birds nest at all. once i loosen the spool tension knob a little i get birds nest when i throw it unless i keep my thumb on the spool. i want to get more distance but it birds nest city. any tips thx
The casting special mag and the regular 15sd mag are both identical other than the external knob on the casting special
I have a matching rod-reel from 1990 which has a graphite 10' rod and factory reel. Can I substitute the original reel with this Penn reel?
A couple years ago at the Fred Hall show I went to the pin display and spoke with the available staff and expressed my dissatisfaction with one of the models of reels, the sales person or rep was so rude!!! I simply asked her why this model had so many problems? But his answer was, maybe you shouldn’t be so cheap and buy a better model and you won’t be having problems ! So I guess they don’t stand for their less expensive reels only the high dollars. I will never buy another pin reel again. My collection of pins including 30 SW Santa will be replaced by Shimano !
No way! Man, that is so rude! Tbh, I don't even like penn. I don't buy from them, I barely even want to use pure fishing brands.
HI there. What diameter rod real seat will fit between the bolts? I'm really interested in this real but this issue could be a deal breaker. I will measure the 10ft Okuma Razor rod I was thinking of using. It has a fuji reel seat which is small. Thanks for the great video. It was very helpful. I think Penn needs to take their blinkers off.
24mm and under
Which rod will this fit nicely? Will it even fit a penn rod. Thanks
Man, i’m not trying to talk smack but you’re voice and the music in the background reminds of The movie Surfs Up when Tank is showing off his trophies lol
How did you get the grease out of the reel? Does it have to be disassembled to clean the guts? Please demonstrate putting the reel on the rod. Thanks man
think it will fit an ocean master 12'?
Nice video bro
Great review man. Question, why does your Squall 2 have white lettering, while all the ones I see at the store and online have gold lettering. I think the white looks pretty darn cool, but can’t find that. Thankyou!
Dude you dont need all that screw grind it down and you will be happy. Stay EAF .
question, when setting it up is a leader used on casting reels? Thanks
what do you have your spool tension knob set at play wise.
That easy access makes me think that's going to come apart while I'm using it or in the car on the way kind of scares me
I put min on a Penn Prevail II Rod and the bolts don't rub the Rod but the backplate that goes on the bolts feels bulky tho.
So take the location of the mag knob out of the equation, fathom cs or squall cs?
What rod are you using bro, if you don't mind me asking?
-Thanks
Buy some thinner bolts im shure you could replace the bolts any hardware could possibly help you with that problem .
How do you like the reel so far? I need suggestions between getting the Squall 15 CS or the Fathom 2 15 CS. Also can the bearings be upgraded?
I purchased them both was lucky to order the fathom off Amazon but it was out of stock at the time so I waited like 6 weeks but I’ve used it for quite some time and the fathom has a aluminum construction but both have shielded bearings but tbh just get the squall it’s so lighter and you can change out your bearings when they get old at any reel repair store
@@leonardothelion9091 I settled for the Squall 15 cs. My local tackle shop had one and after 10 minutes of it came along with me. What a difference those magnets make! I can’t go back to normal.
Just got a brand new one… it’s squeaky out the box so I’m trying to get it smooth. Any tips?
Here in the UK those reel clamps stay in the box. We use coasters or a sliding reel seat if the rod is fitted with one.
How do you tie down the the sliding reel seat? I'm thinking it's like a fuji lockplate seat.
@@otroflores91 I use coasters but I see on the latest Century rods there using a locking sliding seat I think its Fuji. I have seen others that lock when the reel is secured.
@@Kestrel626 cool thanks. Didn't know what those reel clamps were called in Europe.
I've been using dfp super clamp on my "deckhand style" rods.
It is smaller than de daiwa20? And Also it will cast similar yo the daiwa20?
I wonder if the squall 1st gen gold rings fit I like them better I just ordered a 25n
Can you try the camo monventional reel and rod from ugly stik? I am thinking about getting it for catfish and surf fishing when i am in alaska
Can you do a video of you cleaning out the grease and adding your own lubricant?
That's a great idea, I sure can.
@@BeachBomberFishing, thanks man. I dont own any baitcaster or conventional reels because I'm kind if intimidated on the maintenance. It would be nice to see a tutorial of it being done correctly.
@@BeachBomberFishing, are you still able to make this happen?
Dear Mr Whats is the Best size 15, Squall or Phathon? I notice the modes SD for SDCS is difference, i need to buy with a 100% correct because i will buy on ebay, i live in Brasil and hee Penn does not have official sellers. Thanks!
I purchased both the fathom cs and squall cs to compare them both and I’d say that the fathom does have better bearing and construction design was thinking of returning it to Amazon to buy another squall but idk lol
This is confirmed? Also wich are the differnece betewen them?
@@gonzarb93 tbh bro I own both and they both spin fast af for over a minute but the fathom can hold more line capacity and I love the aluminum frame but both are great choices
Any advice on making it fit on a okuma longitude?
Is this reel a little smaller than say a daiwa sha 30?I like using 20 sizes reel wanting to know how much bigger it is than 20 sizes.
Can you put a link to where u got the reel from please?
Hey bro, do you think it’s possible to cast a reel that has no mag at all? I have a squall (no mag) and have been wondering if it’s worth trying at the beach.
I have the penn squall level wind 30 and can throw it about 85 yards so yes I would say you can 🤙🏼
8 N bait
@Brandon C, yes but find a good rod to pair with, make sure the rod loads weight well to get the most out of your cast, theyres guys casting old school penn senator 6/0s and 80lb mono almost 130yrds, its all about technique and a good rod, id start of with straight mono, more foregiving if you do birdsnest
For sure! Ive casted one a good ways. Dont burn your thumb up 😂
Ocean masters are made by penn. see if your casting specials fit on there nicely
Are you using a go pro mounted on your chest?
Where you get the reel from?
Thank you for your reviews
Very informative.
I'm gutted that they don't make these in left hand wind
Here in New Zealand its really hard to interest the shops or importers to obtain LH casting reels
I have a factory Penn LH wind Jigmaster 500, but as it has no braking system, its often birds nest city here LOL
Keep up the good work and take care
Cheers
Pete
I don’t know about NZ but here in the states it’s available in a left hand configuration
About time!
Would this reel on a 12 foot Penn rod make a good long beach caster?
Does anybody (Penn) offer that combo?
Penn combos seem to be less expensive.
can you use the click as a winding check without the magnet?
You can, yes
I just bought the 12 size but for some reason mine doesn't have the big mag knob it has a low profile one.
You must've purchased the squall II 15 SD and not the CS.
@@BeachBomberFishing your right but the 12 size
@@cowboyatthebebop you can buy the knob from a reel parts store and replace
What size surf pole you using ?
I was thinking of 11 foot ?
I bought won and only available was level wind
Probably way too late but I would say that sounds good, I use mine on a 10 foot and it works fine so 11's probably better.
where did you get it
And where does one find this reel for sale? Link please
Beach bomber, I enjoy your surf casting videos and will continue to watch your videos. The reel is not on the penn website, ebay, Amazon, or anywhere I look.. it would be elite af if you could help point us in the right direction. Thanks in advance.
Really, damn sold out quick. Check bass pro
No luck, I'll see if my local tackle store can order me one. Hope to see more fishing videos soon. Take care chief!
I got mine off Amazon
Any luck finding one?? Link PLZ!
@@zachhurley5286 unfortunately no. I contacted Penn customer service at the time of this post and they informed me that it would be July before they started sending them out. Here its October and I've yet to see one.
I think Penn made it for 10ft rod. I tried to put the clamp on a Penn 12ft surf rod and it didn't fit either lol
I can't find this reel online anywhere. Any ideas?
What type rod u used?
Question are there any of these in south africa