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Thanks, been playing since 2004 but recently came back to retail and couldn't believe the "button bloat" on some classes - several spells that ALMOST do the same thing. I'm more than happy to just play the "chill" specs these days.
Another great video! These are supper helpful especially for some who is relatively new to retail WoW, still trying to get a hang of things and wants to have a few different alts for war within
Man I was really hoping to play some Enhancement shaman this season but from everything I've read and now confirmed by you it is super hard! haha and I need it basic
@@peymanshafipour5725it’s the utility that they have compared. Like m+ not much harder But I do a lot of pvp that’s where imo you see the harder class vs the easier classes due to that utility
Thanks buddy! I will be playing BM personally so I fully support that choice and yes, Rogue is in a kinda tricky spot but still very playable if you want to try it :)
Thanks for the advice. I completely agree and regret not doing that in my first two videos. I am working on a healer variation at the moment and I will be taking this advice onboard for that video :)
it just feels like it should be "faster" to me as well.. not rough but more like I always feel like Im waiting on something to press. Does some decent damage in kets though lol
Every person i know thinks ret is easy to play and i agree is not hard, rotation is meh must of the time. But playing ret well? i rarelly see rets using their utility. Ive seen people in high keys not even touching BoP or freedom for example. Saving lay on hands for the entire dungeon. never using SaC. 0 awarness. Of course you will see people comparing Ret to fury or arms. People are just clueless. Specially in M+ good rets can save the day.
Yeah. There are Good and Bad players with every spec. I think the easier spec's do attract newer or less technically proficient players however, thus the lack of insight on when to use utilities correctly etc.
Not using utility is definitely pretty common for all DPS specs though. So many people don't dispel despite it being an enormous bonus to doing so. So it definitely doesn't surprise me that rets having so much utility isn't used when people can't even manage using a singular utility spell lol
@@FunkyToe369 Yep exactly. People thinking dispelling an ally that is about to die because a debuff/mechanic is not a dps increase always makes me laught. Like. If you save them with BoP, Dispell, Lay on Hands, Sac will keep them in the fight, so IT IS a dps increase. You are not "wasting" a global, you are saving a key.
Definitely no. Ret is way much easier right now than Fury, i'm a main fury and thats so freaky easier to play REt include with toolkit , all the addonx like clique, healbot and else allwo you to have mutliple bind to spell mean you need really few button to play ret (as they are friendly/ennemy skill) You're a Range class lost in melee package mean you have 0 difficulty to survive without losing that much damage / 0 frustration . You're a foul if you think that a class with the highest APM and closest range is easier to master than your pal REt ahahah
no way. feral isnt hard anymore. BT generation was dumbed down and is super-easy, the only thing you can really minmax or mess up is using tf properly now. But even then, with bite being the major part of the dps even if you mess up, your dps will still be good.
Yeah. Good and Bad players with every spec. I think the easier spec's do attract newer players however, thus the lack of insight on when to use utilities etc.
@@Saltii well there's that, but there's a huge difference between skill cap and how hard a class is to keyboard roll, and its rather disingenuous to only factor how hard a class is to play but its basic rotation and not overall role, utility and skill cap
You obviously havent played havoc since shadowlands - very movement based now with a lot of little damage windows, and ww will never be s/a because of combo strikes
Yeah havoc is one of the hardest specs to play properly due to inertia/momentum WW is difficult due to chi management via tiger palm and the rotation not being intuitive
Its so sad that rogue is so hard to play tbh, i like rogues, but its rough to play, u gotta have a phd to play it in m+ to do okay dmg, where i can log the warrior and blast with 3 buttons
I think it would be fine if rogue was historically hard to play like enhance, so their playerbase doesn't get alienated. But combat(now outlaw) and assa have been 2 of the easiest specs until SL/DF.
@@k9tirion927 yea true, they were made SIGNIFICANTLY harder to play during that period and their specs are a total mess right now. There has to be some major overhaul and pruning happening. Assassination being a dot spec also just makes it already harder to play in m+ , esp with the way you have to manualy dot everything and track 3 dots+ shiv and Kingsbane, its crazy. Its by far the hardest dot spec to play in the game
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Thanks, been playing since 2004 but recently came back to retail and couldn't believe the "button bloat" on some classes - several spells that ALMOST do the same thing. I'm more than happy to just play the "chill" specs these days.
Another great video! These are supper helpful especially for some who is relatively new to retail WoW, still trying to get a hang of things and wants to have a few different alts for war within
Hey, thanks buddy! I'm glad you have found them useful :)
Looks like a solid list - will help me make a few decisions before TWW goes live - ty!
Thanks mate!
Great video saltii, thanks for putting it together and sharing with us!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Pumping em out saltii, glad to see you back to making vids!
Always!
Great video, I feel like so many other lists get this wrong
Thanks mate!
Thanks Saltii, I normally play ranged but I wanna try some melee this expansion so this will really help!
Glad I could help!
Man I was really hoping to play some Enhancement shaman this season but from everything I've read and now confirmed by you it is super hard! haha and I need it basic
Get hekili
im an enhance main for like 10 years and let me tell you its not hard, harder than other melees maybe but u can easily play it
Yeah you should definitely play what you want to play! It's just probably going to take more practice to play Enhance than say Ret :)
@@peymanshafipour5725it’s the utility that they have compared. Like m+ not much harder
But I do a lot of pvp that’s where imo you see the harder class vs the easier classes due to that utility
@@hyyreN hekili is a crutch and becomes a detriment to progression at a certain point.
Looks good, agree with all of your rankings here. prob still play ranged I reckon this season
Sounds good :)
Rogue looks hard across the board aye. May have to be BM Hunter again this season I am thinking. Good vid
Thanks buddy! I will be playing BM personally so I fully support that choice and yes, Rogue is in a kinda tricky spot but still very playable if you want to try it :)
Love your content!
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it :D
Awesome vid
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it 🙂
Good video! Maybe put the icon of the spec you are currently talking about large somewhere on the screen so its easier to follow. thanks!
Thanks for the advice. I completely agree and regret not doing that in my first two videos. I am working on a healer variation at the moment and I will be taking this advice onboard for that video :)
The label says mistweaver, was like okok somebody finally recognizing our dam.
lol
:D
Great video thanks mate!
My pleasure!
heck yea, i was waiting for this. are you gunna do a tank and healer one too?
Thanks mate, yes I am finishing up a healer version right now :)
ty for the video bro
No worries! Thanks for checking it out mate
Survival felt rough to play on the beta, not sure if they are going to fix it but I hope so!
It sure is fun in prepatch.
Have you played SV before?
it just feels like it should be "faster" to me as well.. not rough but more like I always feel like Im waiting on something to press. Does some decent damage in kets though lol
It's definitely still playable but yes, probably requires a little more practice to master than say Ret :)
So DH is much harder now? When I last played it was face roll! Ill have to check it out. Are you making a best melee DPS list for most dmg?
Yeah a bit harder mate. Yeah I am thinking about it. I am fiinishing up this series with the Healer and Tank versions then I'll see :)
Thanks for saving me from Rogue
No worries!
Every person i know thinks ret is easy to play and i agree is not hard, rotation is meh must of the time. But playing ret well? i rarelly see rets using their utility. Ive seen people in high keys not even touching BoP or freedom for example. Saving lay on hands for the entire dungeon. never using SaC. 0 awarness. Of course you will see people comparing Ret to fury or arms. People are just clueless. Specially in M+ good rets can save the day.
Yeah. There are Good and Bad players with every spec. I think the easier spec's do attract newer or less technically proficient players however, thus the lack of insight on when to use utilities correctly etc.
Completely agree.
Not using utility is definitely pretty common for all DPS specs though. So many people don't dispel despite it being an enormous bonus to doing so.
So it definitely doesn't surprise me that rets having so much utility isn't used when people can't even manage using a singular utility spell lol
@@FunkyToe369 Yep exactly. People thinking dispelling an ally that is about to die because a debuff/mechanic is not a dps increase always makes me laught. Like. If you save them with BoP, Dispell, Lay on Hands, Sac will keep them in the fight, so IT IS a dps increase. You are not "wasting" a global, you are saving a key.
Definitely no. Ret is way much easier right now than Fury, i'm a main fury and thats so freaky easier to play REt include with toolkit , all the addonx like clique, healbot and else allwo you to have mutliple bind to spell mean you need really few button to play ret (as they are friendly/ennemy skill) You're a Range class lost in melee package mean you have 0 difficulty to survive without losing that much damage / 0 frustration . You're a foul if you think that a class with the highest APM and closest range is easier to master than your pal REt ahahah
Great list
Thank you!
Everyone says enhance has too many buttons 😂 I expected this
I ain't gonna lie, I played ele all the way to 70 and tried enhance, yeah nope. I'ma have to level another shaman as enhance 😂😂😂
It's kinda wild. I really don't think new players can handle all the abilities but having said that, it's all just practice
So torn between frost dk and fury
I think both are great choices! I am kinda leaning towards a fury alt personally :)
Feral should be at "d" or at "c" at least)
no way. feral isnt hard anymore. BT generation was dumbed down and is super-easy, the only thing you can really minmax or mess up is using tf properly now. But even then, with bite being the major part of the dps even if you mess up, your dps will still be good.
Hot take but I never found feral to be as hard as it's reputation, might be subjective though.
It definitely felt a lot easier on the beta!
"chill melee class to play" Frost DK section on point
haha you caught that, I was hoping someone would :P
lol
Idk, I see more bad rets then good. Esp with utility
Yeah. Good and Bad players with every spec. I think the easier spec's do attract newer players however, thus the lack of insight on when to use utilities etc.
@@Saltii well there's that, but there's a huge difference between skill cap and how hard a class is to keyboard roll, and its rather disingenuous to only factor how hard a class is to play but its basic rotation and not overall role, utility and skill cap
Disagree with survival it got a lot more streamlined it is at least a B
you forgot about assassination rogue its easier then dks...lol.
You reckon? haha I don't know man. DK's felt substantially easier to me than any rogue spec :P
Lost me at hard havoc.
Havoc is S in terms of easy. Also ww is in between s and a
You obviously havent played havoc since shadowlands - very movement based now with a lot of little damage windows, and ww will never be s/a because of combo strikes
Yeah havoc is one of the hardest specs to play properly due to inertia/momentum
WW is difficult due to chi management via tiger palm and the rotation not being intuitive
Tell me you haven't played on the beta without telling me.
Yeah Havoc has changed a lot mate. If you didn't have a chance to play it on the beta then you will understand once we go live
Bro DH is one of the easiest class to play if not easiest together with ret 😂
Havoc DH has changed a lot mate. If you didn't have a chance to try it on the beta you will see when it goes live
@@Saltii Mate I did, I main it and it is not hard at all, not sure what you guys are on but putting dh where you put it is insanity
Its so sad that rogue is so hard to play tbh, i like rogues, but its rough to play, u gotta have a phd to play it in m+ to do okay dmg, where i can log the warrior and blast with 3 buttons
I think it would be fine if rogue was historically hard to play like enhance, so their playerbase doesn't get alienated.
But combat(now outlaw) and assa have been 2 of the easiest specs until SL/DF.
@@k9tirion927 yea true, they were made SIGNIFICANTLY harder to play during that period and their specs are a total mess right now. There has to be some major overhaul and pruning happening. Assassination being a dot spec also just makes it already harder to play in m+ , esp with the way you have to manualy dot everything and track 3 dots+ shiv and Kingsbane, its crazy. Its by far the hardest dot spec to play in the game
Yeah it's kinda wild on the beta. Rogue just doesn't feel particularly intuitive or accessible sadly :(