Hard to believe that these were $10,000 less than a C2. Especially when you see the prices that these are getting on the open market. Whoever bought one of these new, made a great investment if they still have it. And it's way more fun than any stock certificate.
I know what you mean. This was one of the last Porsche’s that actually cost less money for removing things like power steering, A/C, rear seats and whatever other components they could strip to save weight. It wasn’t long after this car that they figured out people would actually pay more money to have less and it’s become normal practice now.
Yeah, these days the cars that have "added lightness" by having heavy and expensive bits of equipment left out, actually cost you MORE from the manufacturer!
This was before Porsche figured out people would pay less for stripped out models(aka the current and past couple gens of the GT3 911 and GT3 RS). Also did a quick search for this car on Hemmings, they're asking about $95k to 135k for the 1993 RS America 911. Adjusted for inflation, the MSRP of 54k is about 100k in today's dollars. You made your $$$$ buying this car back in the 2000's during the recession before Porsches skyrocketed in value. If you owned this car since new, you lost a shit ton of $$$$$ because you have to pay for maintence and insurance for the past 26 years, a simple S&P 500 market tracking fund would have made a good investment back in 1993, cars are not good investments IMO.
Now look at Porsche...double the price of a GT3 for a Speedster, or twice the cost of a Boxster S for a Boxster Spyder. The 90s and early 00s was the era of Porsche that made me love Porsche, when they were built for enthusiasts instead of rich posers with deep pockets. Now with VW ownership, Porsche is locked into excessive brand tax being charged to fools buying status to impress the neighbors. Screw the neighbors. Impress the driver, and the long-term owner!
@@nickwilczynski3684 It was kinda a thing. Lamborghini offered the SV version of the Diablo at a lower price than the normal one. What car makers now do is replace everything with lighter things, instead of removing the unnecessary.
Hard to believe today but Porsche was struggling to move 911s back in the early 90’s and created this cheaper model to get rid of some units. These were dirt cheap in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. The low production and RS badge has benefited this model greatly. It’s a wonderful car, but a regular C2 from the same era is a nicer car, more comfortable, just as fast and 1/3 the price. After driving several I went with a 3.2 Carrera luckily 10 years ago when prices were reasonable. Both great cars, some give way more bang for your buck though.
I don't really mind the fact that 911's had to go water cooled. I get it. What I hate about modern 911's is how much they've grown in all directions. They looked absolutely stunning when they were smaller in the air cooled days. Now, not so much.
I am amazed it was cheaper. Usually the RS versions of a car today cost a lot more. And you can tell it was the early 1990s as A/C was optional today its pretty much standard even in performance models. At least those sold in the USDM.
The nylon pull tabs are hilarious. Sorry, 80lbs weight savings to essentially get a shell? Why are they offering metallic paint? Could save a few oz of weight there probably... and just get rid of the shell altogether...rain protection is for non-enthusiasts. Meanwhile, that driver could have just lost the 80lbs, felt better, and had door handles.
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo Yeah...I guess it's the dishonest advertising I hate..they didn't do that stuff for weight savings, they did it so that people could get into a Porsche at a price point more within their reach, and that's totally cool actually, but they probably had a bigger profit margin on the America too. For years sportbike manufacturers have been riding the "weight savings" meme, when all I see is stuff that gets flimsier and flimsier while the prices go through the roof. It's really not weight savings, it's folks in boardrooms trying every year to reach just a little further into the consumer's wallet. Less for more. But I digress.
@Roger Dodger Depends where the vehicle is operated. Try Texas where you can routinely drive 30 miles to your destination and only take three turns. Acceleration is all that matters.
@Roger Dodger That was a rather special case though, the GMC Syclone was a limited production, turbocharged, AWD beast. Normal pickup body/chassis with a monster engine and very special drivetrain. There have been faster factory pickups since then(1998 Ford Lightining, 2005 Dodge SRT Ram, 2007 Tundra with the dealer installed supercharger), but I'd bet a Syclone would take them off the line with its AWD.
@Roger Dodger Depends on your perspective, some people are all about 1/4 mile times and mod their cars accordingly. Personally I think that featured Porsche would be an absolute riot to drive, light weight, manual steering, no sound insulation, great flat six noises, they don't build cars that light and raw now days.
better how? let me guess more hp hah these are fine tuned lightweight handling cars that give u a feeling not found in crap today good luck developing taste....
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Hard to believe that these were $10,000 less than a C2. Especially when you see the prices that these are getting on the open market. Whoever bought one of these new, made a great investment if they still have it. And it's way more fun than any stock certificate.
I know what you mean. This was one of the last Porsche’s that actually cost less money for removing things like power steering, A/C, rear seats and whatever other components they could strip to save weight. It wasn’t long after this car that they figured out people would actually pay more money to have less and it’s become normal practice now.
Yeah, these days the cars that have "added lightness" by having heavy and expensive bits of equipment left out, actually cost you MORE from the manufacturer!
This was before Porsche figured out people would pay less for stripped out models(aka the current and past couple gens of the GT3 911 and GT3 RS).
Also did a quick search for this car on Hemmings, they're asking about $95k to 135k for the 1993 RS America 911. Adjusted for inflation, the MSRP of 54k is about 100k in today's dollars. You made your $$$$ buying this car back in the 2000's during the recession before Porsches skyrocketed in value. If you owned this car since new, you lost a shit ton of $$$$$ because you have to pay for maintence and insurance for the past 26 years, a simple S&P 500 market tracking fund would have made a good investment back in 1993, cars are not good investments IMO.
Now look at Porsche...double the price of a GT3 for a Speedster, or twice the cost of a Boxster S for a Boxster Spyder. The 90s and early 00s was the era of Porsche that made me love Porsche, when they were built for enthusiasts instead of rich posers with deep pockets. Now with VW ownership, Porsche is locked into excessive brand tax being charged to fools buying status to impress the neighbors. Screw the neighbors. Impress the driver, and the long-term owner!
@@Trendyflute i do have to say that the new Porsche' look amazing!
That Brian Redman clip is priceless 👌
Beautiful and nice this Porsche 911
0:42 John: Think of it as the ULTRA-SLIM-FAST of Porsches! LOL
Take out door handles for weight savings, but keep the sunroof. Makes sense..
@jason9022 On the inside there are cloth straps.
You miss the part where it said optional? Some people are losers who want that shit even in track based cars
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These days, slim-fast 911s are far more expensive than the normal ones!
It's interesting that for once, a lightweight special version of a sports car costs less than a standard version. Usually, they cost more.
and it was cheaper!!! now they charge you more for less features!
That is a very narrow way of looking at it.
I think sales were suffering at the time and they had to do what they had to do... no one just drops prices to be nice
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Indeed, you’re also paying for Carbon Fibre parts, which are bollocksly expensive (unless you’re BMW), as well as some engine mods.
@@nickwilczynski3684 It was kinda a thing. Lamborghini offered the SV version of the Diablo at a lower price than the normal one.
What car makers now do is replace everything with lighter things, instead of removing the unnecessary.
I've had the pleasure of driving one of these they're really fun cars for sure
I love old Porsche
This is such an awesome Porsche.
Mitsubishi Diamante please!
Can't wait to read your comment when Diamante finally does appear
Ben Davis yess😂
@@bendavis9733 Have you guys ever done a Cordia or Tredia? There's none left, I need to see proof of their existence
@@RallyLancer95 tredia for sure. Maybe cordia
They are a mediocre shitbox, also known as the magna. For some reason they are mostly driven by fob immigrants.
Amazing. These kinds of reactions from a production car are being lost in the name of laziness.
A perfect 911.
I love the description in these videos 😂😂😂
People are sleeping on this model. It’s a dream to drive.
I wish they made a corvette like this. I like the stripped down versions.
I need a time machine!
Yes, preferably to go back to before Ferdinand Porsche was conceived.....
Hard to believe today but Porsche was struggling to move 911s back in the early 90’s and created this cheaper model to get rid of some units. These were dirt cheap in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. The low production and RS badge has benefited this model greatly. It’s a wonderful car, but a regular C2 from the same era is a nicer car, more comfortable, just as fast and 1/3 the price. After driving several I went with a 3.2 Carrera luckily 10 years ago when prices were reasonable. Both great cars, some give way more bang for your buck though.
Great car!!
I don't really mind the fact that 911's had to go water cooled. I get it. What I hate about modern 911's is how much they've grown in all directions. They looked absolutely stunning when they were smaller in the air cooled days. Now, not so much.
I am amazed it was cheaper. Usually the RS versions of a car today cost a lot more. And you can tell it was the early 1990s as A/C was optional today its pretty much standard even in performance models. At least those sold in the USDM.
Didn't you guys already upload this? I remember watching this review
Yeah, I think it's a repeat (I remember that IMSA guy)
Whoops, sorry guys.
@@bendavis9733 yea, just checked, you guys uploaded it about 4 years ago (it was 15 seconds longer then though)
Yep, I watch all these retro videos (as they're awesome) and I definitely recall seeing this review before.
Now worth really big money
we pity da foo who traded this in for a 996
God I wish I would’ve bought one of these when I could! Now they are stupid expensive...😍
Wow. This is the first time i've seen a car with less options (for racing purposes) actually be priced less
Naturally aspirated ❤️
Didn't Chrysler use the same "America" name for stripped down Neons lol?
it started with the omni/horizon in the '80's
@@gxdjoeybaby07 I remember that, too. I actually had a 1988 Dodge Aries America 2-door with a factory option 3 spd ON THE FLOOR manual transmission.
Porsche carreira é o maior arraso sensacional que clássico 👍😁😁
This is a re-upload
who's here after the rogan podcast?
高画質！
Stone Age technology wasn't that long ago, LoL!
Post the 1st generation Toyota Tundra
Squirmin Herman the one eyed German whys that?
They can't post rust
billy heaton These “Retro Reviews” we’re filmed back in the day. I’m sure the have a clip from 2000.
The nylon pull tabs are hilarious. Sorry, 80lbs weight savings to essentially get a shell? Why are they offering metallic paint? Could save a few oz of weight there probably... and just get rid of the shell altogether...rain protection is for non-enthusiasts. Meanwhile, that driver could have just lost the 80lbs, felt better, and had door handles.
Even worse this particular car had the optional sunroof and cassette player................
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo Yeah...I guess it's the dishonest advertising I hate..they didn't do that stuff for weight savings, they did it so that people could get into a Porsche at a price point more within their reach, and that's totally cool actually, but they probably had a bigger profit margin on the America too. For years sportbike manufacturers have been riding the "weight savings" meme, when all I see is stuff that gets flimsier and flimsier while the prices go through the roof. It's really not weight savings, it's folks in boardrooms trying every year to reach just a little further into the consumer's wallet. Less for more. But I digress.
Decent for its time. Back then, nobody would believe an Accord V6 manual will match it on the quarter mile 20 years later.
@Roger Dodger Depends where the vehicle is operated. Try Texas where you can routinely drive 30 miles to your destination and only take three turns. Acceleration is all that matters.
@Roger Dodger That was a rather special case though, the GMC Syclone was a limited production, turbocharged, AWD beast. Normal pickup body/chassis with a monster engine and very special drivetrain. There have been faster factory pickups since then(1998 Ford Lightining, 2005 Dodge SRT Ram, 2007 Tundra with the dealer installed supercharger), but I'd bet a Syclone would take them off the line with its AWD.
@Roger Dodger Depends on your perspective, some people are all about 1/4 mile times and mod their cars accordingly.
Personally I think that featured Porsche would be an absolute riot to drive, light weight, manual steering, no sound insulation, great flat six noises, they don't build cars that light and raw now days.
Did I hear a english accent,
That is one ugly steering wheel.
my car is better this is bad
better how? let me guess more hp hah these are fine tuned lightweight handling cars that give u a feeling not found in crap today good luck developing taste....