Complete History of the Honda Civic Type R - from EK9 to FK8 - With Surprise Drag Race!
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- The Honda Civic Type R is Japan's most famous Hot Hatch, and it's been around for over 20 years. We take a look back at every generation and every single car made of the Civic Type R, from the original EK9 of the 90s, to today's Nurburgring-beating FK8.
Paul and Tiff get to grips with Vtec, as well as Honda's rather difficult model naming system. Which would you have? All this and rounded off with a Honda Civic Type R drag race, with a very surprising outcome!
The legendary EP3? A JDM FD2? Or something else entirely? Let us know in the comments below!
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Which one would you get? Answers below!
Have to be the original 97 version. As you said, simple but good looking car.
Fk2
I sheard it on Twitter i hope you gett more subs
Any pre 2008 as long as it's in championship white
Honda Civic CRX SiR.
The Fk8 is clearly the most capable of them all.
But EK9 typeR and the FD2 typerR
Are the clear choice of a petrolhead.
Good choice
I would take the ep3 sorry
FN2 is the best looking though
EP3 is underestimated
Ek9..
I have to say you have mixed the big budget of TV from top gear and fifth gear with a lower budget intimacy of TH-cam like car throttle very well.
Thank you very much
Finally! FD2, you're no longer forgotten!
Best Type-R for me!
We couldn't leave out the FD2! 😉
And most common
@@ziqrsx common in Asia not Europe or the states.
@@ziqrsx they only made around 12.000 or 13.000 cars. That's really rare
@@MrGembelo nah here in malaysia you see it everyday
I have owned and driven a FD2 Type R for 11 years now. Loving every bit of it! Such a joy to drive, day in day out.
👍good work
Do you still own it?
I Absolutely love this, usually when an automotive channel do a Civic Type-R history video they always leave the FD2 out of it, but you guys got it done right. 👍
We couldn't leave out the JDM cars! Glad you appreciated it. 😃
That's because the fd2r is jdm exclusive. Most people in the states or Europe don't even know of its existence
@@xLeidenFrost It doesn't matter, in the UK there's plenty of examples that were imported into the country, so sourcing one shouldn't be hard.
@@deet4895 it obviously isn't enough. if it were, you would see fd2rs everywhere like the fd1/fd4s.
@@deet4895 even if what you said is true, you cant deny the fact that at least 70% of the people in the states, canada, whole of europe don't even know what the fd2r even is. Even in the uk, half of the people don't know the car they're seeing is fd2r.
EK9 is my favorite looking car of all time. So understated and simple, clean, and classic.
😍😍😍😍
What a great episode! I don't know how I missed it the first time around. Thanks TH-cam algorithm. I am a proud owner of a 2019 FK8 and that car is a permanent addition to the collection. The car drive's like a dream. The only problem I have with it is that I am always driving all the gas out of it because I just find reasons to drive it more when I should be going home. There is a reason why these cars have appreciated in value. My car is worth more money now than when I bought it! You can't say that about too many cars from the last few years. Keep up the great work.
Actually you can say that about a surprising number of cars and trucks from the last few years thanks to the pandemic and the shortage of microchips that cars depend on wreaking havoc with the production of new cars.
EP3 for me. Blend of modern tech with the charm of old. Tiff knows the score.
FD2 The Best
😍😍😍
Agreed
Agree
It’s only available in Asia I think I see it every day
Fs
The FD2 is the pinnacle of Civics. The Fk2 and Fk8 are undoubtedly brilliant, but the FD2 is the last of the real R's.
For people that like their Vtec at the top end, the FD2 seems to be the car of choice! 😉
@@lovecarsTV absolutely 👍
Ek9..
@@FacePalmReality 💛💕💕👌🏻
That EK is still a classic! B16B!
That it is, prices are starting to go up now too! 👍
FD2R
*fd2
@@Keepo777 its actually FD2R lol
Ash K FD2 is FD2R..you dont call FK8 as FK8R..
@@Keepo777 Thats because theres no base model FK8.. Whereas there is a a base model FD2..
Ash K there is a base model fk8
EK9
V-TEC kicks in
BWWAAAAAAAAAA
*shingo intensifies*
I’m partial to the EK9 myself but after seeing a few of the new FK8s rip around a track and autocross course, you can’t deny the tech and design that enables it to nearly defy physics. Quite a machine that new one.
Progress. Once you get used to it’s aggressive styling 👍
Tiff in a EK9! Thought id never see the day! Awesome! Reminds me if the old dc2 review he did. Wish he drove that ek9 more.
We had 7 cars to feature so sadly couldn't spend too long in each one, but he really did enjoy the EK! 👍
I had a brand new 2002 EP3 in black, with dealer fit options air con and spots. I think on later EP3’s the air con was a factory fit. 95000 miles covered sold it in 2007 zero problems and its still alive and on the road according to the MOT web site a brilliant fun car!
Fond memories! That's some impressive mileage done in 5 years too! 😳
EK9 FOREVER ! None can ever compare to that for me. The rawest vehicle.
EK9. None others have that feeling behind the wheel
Nothing beats the EK9. That was the one that started it all imo and looks the best. I just love semi-traditional Japanese styling
The DC2 and NSX-R came before that. I'd argue they're more important especially the DC2 as it could've been quite easy for Honda to make the NSX-R and just leave it at that but instead they took a normal car like the Integra and made it into something really special!
@@B__L to me, the nsx is in a different league compared to those two. There's something about the EK9 looks which I don't know what, but I just love. I'd personally go for the Ek any day. Just my opinion though
I like the fd2
@@Caspercab okay
To me FD2 is the last Civic Type-R with NA engine & the last Type-R JDM..while its successors doesn't produce VTEC sound as loud as it used to be due to turbo..one word ford fd2 , ICONIC
FD2 all the way!
Lots agree with you
FD2 ftw
The FD2 is mine and I’m super happy with the positive comments on her!!
Matt Stevenson brilliant car! 😎
FD2 rr
Ep3 for me all day long taking absolutely everything into account
Good choice
Why so?
AeroPrixma because the k20 engine is an absolute peach! Also I think it handles the best out of the first three and cost wise they’re the by far the cheapest, 2.5k buys you a decent one, ek9 is double or treble
@@emmadeeba2038 Yeah you are absolutely right mate. Wish they had the type r ep3 in the us. We got the trash k20a3 with no real vtec and only 160hp :/
fn2s are so underrated. IMO they are the best looking of the lot, most liveable, spacious and comfortable and interior looks very modern with a head unit, very practical, cheap n/a raw k series power which easily can push big numbers with a supercharger or turbo kit, amazing car glad that Clarksons review made the prices so cheap. One of the last true n/a powered type rs
Fn2 Is still my favourite ! Amazing design !
Ek9 will always be my favorite
The sound of that FD2 is just.... I'm speechless.
😐 it is beautiful
I love how ridiculous the fk8 is , and the capabilities of this car are amazing , everything you get for well under what you might expect to pay for that kind of performance is just a no brainer to me.
Brilliant car
The NA ones might not be that quick but the smoothness of the K series engine from idle all the way up to the red line is really magnificent. Really linear build up and engaging power curve.That little boost when vtec kicks in makes it a little more fun. They feel like proper sports car engines compare to some of the hot hatches which use a 2 liter turbo shared across the company. Just the fact that Honda made such high revving engine roadworthy and so reliable wins me any day.
They certainly are fun to push through the rev range. No coincidence that Ariel used the same engines for their Atom and Nomad!
The 2 litre turbo stils revs high! You dont see 7k RPM anywhere else
If u guys came here for the sounds, here 7:01
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Very good video. Enjoyed it. The race at the end was pretty funny.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
Finally, a video that included the FD2
Delivered!! Hope you like it ?
EK9 chassis with FD2 engine FTW
I can just sit here and listen to Tiff speak all day long! Paul you are one lucky man getting to work with Timothy Needell
As for my fav type R? FD2 Mugen rr ... thank you for including FD2 in your type R line up, it is usually absent from all the main stream type R discussions, mainly because of its Japanese underpinnings!
Glad you like it
Lovecars loved it 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Honda started off as a motorcycle company before they venture into car business. VTEC originated from race bike engines. All race bikes have tonnes of horsepower, revs very high but generates little torque , which is also the same characteristics of VTEC car engines.
Though some older Civics are not real Type R, I think they are of significant importance in the history of type R. The oldest "Type-R related Civic" must be the JDM CRX (EF8) , under 1 tonne, JDM spec B16A engine makes 170HP , its a pocket rocket. With its chassis weighing under 1 tonne and it sits low because those days there were no such rule to carmakers as "pedestrian safety compliance" .It flies ; 0-100km/h in 7.2 sec .
Knowledge 🤯
A thorough and well put together video, was not expecting that.
Really enjoyed it.
Thank you for the kind words hope you like our other videos as much
This is such a cool idea... I would love to see more like this, cars like Golf GTi's, Megane RS or even M5's
Good idea 💡
Currently I own a FD2R and it is so amazing car with stiff chassis and rock solid suspension setup. Thank god you featured FD2 in the Type R history although the FD2R is not stock.
and i came here because my idol Mr Tiff. great video and hope to see more.
You deserve lots of more followers!
I have to say that regarding original youtube "car shows", this is by far the best one! Hope you keep making more content like this. Cheers!
Really appreciate your great comments 👍
Fd2 is my 1st car. Bought it in 2010 still use it until now
i have driven most of those cars, they are all brilliant, but i would choose the FK8 every day, which i did as i own one lol. The styling doesnt put me off at all, i like that its different from all other cars. Its not trying to pretend something its not. Even for every day driving the FK8 is the best option. The FK2 is too stiff and the older cars are hard to find without them needing alot of TLC to be as good as they were again. Also the FD2 was never sold in Europe nor the US, so good luck trying to find one.. The FN2 is a much underappreciated car. Its far better than people give it credit for.
I’m in the same boat. I love the fk8 the most and I own one, I would love to one day find a FD2 type R unfortunately like you said it’s going to be super hard to find one.
have an fn2 and fallen in love with vtech. when the vtech noise ramps up it always puts a smile on my face. still have my nissan z32, but the power is not very manageable, with these hondas its all about fun...
😍😍😍
EK9 JDM ftw!
Superb review, over the moon you got the fd2!!! Ek9 also is an absolute dream! Honda just know what to do!!
EK9 the rawest Type R driven...
EP3 all the way!!! Although I also like the performance and the looks on the FK2, but I became an EP3 owner because of its lift-off over-steer, it's unexpectedly fun! :D
Really fun to drive 👍
Such an amazing video! Every civic type r is amazing in its own way!
Thanks and yes completely agree
I don't understand why people think the fk8 is ugly, it's beautiful, its kinda like the fk2 was inspired by the fn2 and the fk8 was inspired by the fd2
Well it's all subjective, the FK8 design definetly seems to divide opinion! 🤔
because before fk2, that's all of high rpm vtec and we all love the speed and the sound of it,as all type r were a simple power machine, simple device, just like this.
I like the fk8
@Fat Buddha And the fk8 looks like a dream
This has to be the best overall comparison of Civic Type R's I've seen on TH-cam. Tiff's commentary was funny and insightful as always. Never heard of the Paul guy, but he seems like a cool smart dude, too. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this channel in the future. Keep up the great content!
Thanks very much for the kind words Sean, we're glad to have you watching!
I'd take the FD2 any day. Thanks for making this video. I love it!
You're very welcome, thanks for watching! 👍
I've got an EK9 RX model, Like the one in the video. Had it nearly 2 years now in standard form and I drive it everyday. I love every second of it.
Good work, enjoy
great to see Tiff Needell back in action🔥
Japan kept the best one for themselves, I love all civics, but the fd2RR was my favorite
As a new owner of a 2019 FK8, you know where I stand:) Then again the OG Type R from the 90's is so beautiful but we never got them here in the states!
Congratulations on the new car! You're right on the EK9 though, they're special cars. 👍
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL! I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY SINGLE UPLOAD!
We're glad you're enjoying the videos! Thanks for watching! 😄
OMG, the FK2 is so gorgeous.
I will choose Honda Civic Type R FD2...the last NA
It seems to be a popular choice!
Design lg sporty... bnding FK8...
For me, it's got to be the fd2.
Nice
Another cracking video. I've only got the 2.2 diesel civic but I love it.
Absolutely nailed this edit guys!!
Thanks very much Mr Barnett! 😉
Put Tiff in a built K24 EK with 300whp and he will go bananas!
The Honda numbering relates to the chassis/engine type.
EK9 didn't get enough credit, it's handling is better than the EP3. Also couldn't they source a stock FD2?!
FD2s are pretty rare in the UK, so we were very grateful to have the one featured!
My personal favourite is absolutely the FK2 it's also my 4th dream cars 😍
I love Tiff videos! Good history too. Thanks guys!
You're very welcome, thanks for watching! 😊
I have a FK8 that's 2 months old.What a great machine, wonderful handling and at 3000 rpm it just keeps pulling. Take it around a corner,sticks to the road. Great daily driver. I also love the styling, not just silver and square. This is from a 61 yr old, who said it is only for the younger driver :)
Great work
amazing !!!!! enjoy it !!!!
@@SWISSTHEDJ Thanks mate :)
Great video guys. The Honda Civic Track formula actually began with the EF9 SIR and then morphed into the EG6 SIR which I owned. EG6 had a B16A engine with118kw standard from a 1.6ltr four with LSD and sway bars. The EG6 top civic track car then morphed into the EK SIR but the top track civic of this model belonged to the EK9 which had a B16B engine 136kw standard from a 1.6ltr four with lsd and sway bars again. But the actual first Type R, Championship white, red Honda/type R badges, white wheels, red seats, and titanium gear knob started with the NSX-R in 1992. Your welcome!
🤯 nice knowledge 👍
Love Paul and tiff they're chemistry is so cool, new top gear needs these guys!
Thanks that’s very kind
Insane drag racing lol, love the content guy keep it coming
Glad you're enjoying it, thanks for watching!
I brought a new EP3 and I loved it , 43,000 miles of pleasure .
EK9 is the best Civic
Great choice
By far the true typeR
Totally agree!!
Truly JDM
you are so right.
The forgotten gem... FD2 🔥 great video & you can never go wrong with the EK9 but for me FD2 ❤️
The FD2 seems to be the people's choice if the comments are anything to go by. Thanks for watching!
I have an ep3 just like the one you drove. The funny part is that I am in Spain so I'm driving the wrong side here(you can imagine the looks I get) . I bought it for half of what they sell over here with the left hand wheel. It's such a fun and reliable car. I drive it on mountain roads with the more modern 2.0 liter turbo cars and ,if my hands and courage allow it ,I can mostly keep up with them. Wonderful machine, I don't plan to sell it anytime soon.
It’s a keeper 👌
FD2R is my forte.
Though the FK8 is tempting as well.
Apparently the police in my country is testing one FK8 for future highspeed chase unit replacement. Currently the highspeed chase unit are equipped with Evo X
That's a pretty cool Police car! They might have trouble finding space for the stickers though - the bodywork is a bit busy! 😉
@@lovecarsTV they got police sticker on it already. Check out Malaysia Police Type R, it looks great!
Cop cars ? BS they are getting these for FUN !!
EK9 is my dream car
What a nice video. Hoping to see more of these in future !
Thanks and yes hopefully you will 👍
Soo much effort in these vid i love it 😩
Glad you are enjoying them 👏👏
I am absolutely in love with my FK8
Nice, they're incredibly capable cars!
oh yeah.... i'm a proud owner of a 2018 type R
Love tiff!! 😂Had a ep3 And fn2. Found the fn2 far better daily driver 👌
Absolutely epic guys, loved this and I think I would take either the EK9 or EP3 👌🏻
Thanks and I think you would be happy with either 👍
This was very entertaining guys(: & informative👍🏻 coming from U.S
Think I want an FN2 to be honest, it has to be a daily driver so I feel like that's the best compromise between everyday usability and having the crazy high-revving engine etc. Especially if I could afford a later one with a diff...
Had mine tuned with 4 switchable maps pop n bang get gt model you can switch between the maps
The EK9 is the only Civic Type-R you will ever want or need.
Great video guys, really fun.
Thanks and we really enjoyed making this one ☝️
i go for 1st and the 4th ..! fun and style! you guys are great! thanks !
Brilliant thanks
I've got the fn2 in red. I LOVE getting that vetec working. 😆 Awesome video bud.
Thanks Big Dave 👍
Ep3 without doubt the best Type R built in my opinion
Good choice!
Still missing my ep3. Thanks for the video
hey Tiff Needell!! The Type R is a truly special car, can't wait to race mine all over the place (Hillclimbs, track days, time attack)
I own an ep3 and I love it, though I'd love to own the ek9 too! Wouldn't replace though, I'd want both...
Same era, but each unique in its own right!
It's a shame they didn't include the "SiR" series from the EF9 and EG6 shape.
For me it would have to be the EK9!
I think we would have needed a bigger runway! 😉
I love tiff, true gentleman... the end was brilliant and made me smile so a 👍🏼 from me
Haha thanks for your kind comments
Maybe it's the chemdawg I just smoked but I thoroughly enjoyed your banter. Great video. You guys are fun to watch. So relaxing and peaceful too.
I agred with tiff...I'd have the ep3.
The ek9, a Honda Civic I’ve always wanted ever since I saw it, and what’s the song around the start?
love the video brilliant stuff ,all look great ,I used to have an ep3 and loved it a wonderful car ,gear change,screaming vtec ,it sounded gd as well at high revs ,brilliant car ,a year ago I bought an fk2 as I love the styling
Great choice
Glad you’re back good vid
Thanks very much Michael, glad you're watching!
I have an fn2 and I love it, although I'd love to take him that fd2.
💕
Well done getting all these cars together and good video
The looks of the ek9
With the styling of the fk2
With the gear lever position and shift from a EP3
With the high revving VTEC and sound from a EP3
With the performance of the fk8
Weighing as much as the ek9
And also being front wheel drive would make the perfect Civic Type R
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
That guy's smile is priceless!
love this !! keep it going!! FK8 2018 🤯🙌