I've been shooting traditional DA/SA firearms for 25 years. This is my platform. I have one as a duty weapon. This is an EXCELLENT training video for those willing to master the trigger on a formidable weapon.
Great video I run a P226 and P229 both in 357 Sig This is pretty much spot on what I learned a Sig Sauer’s Academy I started with an old P220 in 45 ACP and I would do these drills twice a week for apx 30 minutes each I really appreciate the time you are taking to share your knowledge
Thanks for watching and commenting. I too spent many, many days in classes at the Sig Academy over the years (spend a few dollars as well!). I was the odd guy who shot my Glocks or M&P striker fired guns in most of the advanced pistol classes. The pro shop deals encouraged me to buy a couple of 226 9mm Legion Pistols, that I like very much.
Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC I have a model 22 glock that I am very very fond of The one thing you can always say about a Glock is that it will work. There is nothing wrong with Glock My first class at Sig Sauer a young woman was carrying a smaller Glock in 9mm She was very good to say the least A couple people made some comments in regards to her carrying a Glock at a Sig class But the instructor was very quick To remind everyone that it’s not what you carry It’s the fact that you can use what you carry. Again thanks for the great video
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Went from a glock to my sig. Took some time as you stated, practiced as you stated and now this is my competition gun. Love it, on target!. Great vid, thank you!
Great video ! Have had my 226 for about 2 months now. I recently installed the SRT kit to match the action of my M11-A1, I tell everyone how great the single action and short reset is on both guns. I am now motivated to master the double action, decocked, which is how either gun is kept ready on the nightstand. Thank you again for a great video.
Thanks for the pointers in this video. Just picked up my first DA/SA (SIG P226)! The shooting exercises you show here should help me improve my trigger control.
Excellent video. I meant to post a comment sooner, but after about 100-150 rounds, I was able to put 2 bullets in 1 hole with my 226/9mm doing this exercise at 7 yards...multiple times.
I just purchased my first gun and it happens to be the P226. Thank you for you video. I found it very insightful and will review the video again just before I go out to the range for a session. I was having some trouble understanding what you called "rolling the trigger", then you demonstrated it for the last time at the end of the video where you weren't firing from the other side. From this view, I was able to see what you were doing because your trigger finger was no longer blocking the view. Thank you for that.
+thedrj2009 Well, the 226 is my special pistol because she's been with me since Aug 1996. I say the 320 is now my favorite because it weighs less, trigger is fantastic and it feels great in the hand. I never compared both pistols until a few weeks back and I was shocked at the weight difference between the two. I have a 320 carry and 320 subcompact. I carry the 320 SC because it prints less but both are excellent guns. Triggers are very consistent between 320 Carry and Subcompact. My coworker recently purchased a full size 320 and that trigger is very consistent to my own pistols. Sorry about the soapbox, but I haven't fired an American made 226 so I can't speak on that pistol. Do you own a 226? Follow me on IG @ Sigtard. I will post more pics in the next few days. Just need to find the right setting for each gun.
firing mine in DA only for a few hundred rounds really improved my handling the Sig DA-SA transition. I believe bottom line is repetetions. Good video and thanks for sharing.
I have a Sig P226 Navy (Mk25) that is by far my favorite of all my pistols. Excellent handgun. Yes, training with it in the beginning like this video shows is absolutely necessary, but easy to get the hang of and once you do you don’t want to switch back to other platforms. 👍
PS - I can routinely hit my 8” steel target at 50 yards in both DA and SA with my 226. I swear its the gun, because I can’t really do that with any of my other pistols.
I hear you. They are outstanding pistols. I happen to upgrade to the Sigg legion 226 single action only and added the double action/single action version as well. If you like the standard 226 the single action only version would blow your mind! I appreciate you watching and commenting and hope you will subscribe.
Been shooting a "few" sigs.....cant say it any better! Spend 2-3 mags per practice session decocking and firing, then align, reset and fire. This is especially comforting to those who carry ANY DA / SA semi auto pistols or revolvers. Ive found it to be a valuable tool to teach those "afraid" to carry a semi auto without a safety, one in the chamber. For some it's a mental block regarding an accidental discharge. The Sig, Beretta and Walther etc, its the security of requiring a very deliberate first shot with the follow up coming with ease and confidence. Pro shooters want the same pull / break every time. We're not all in that category. Actually, I prefer the sig option, especially when equipped with the Short Reset Triggers and over 10,000 round 100% reliability (personal experience) . When its all said and done, be comfortable with what you carry. If it's a range firearm or BASIC home defense, this may not be the best option for you. If you struggle with the "LEAVE ONE IN THE CHAMBER", consider the DA / SA Sig or consider a Double Action / Single action revolver.
This video is perfect, I just bought a police trade in German 226 and while I have a CZ 75 I really want to train with the SIG to master the different trigger pulls, I also have an M&P too.
Thanks so much for an informative video! I just purchased a sig p229 Legion, haven’t even fired it yet. Will do in a couple days. Always wondered how the DA/SA trigger felt. I carry a Glock 23 for edc, so the sig will be a little different. Now I have a good idea what to look for. Can’t wait to get acquainted with it! Thanks again, well explained. 👍🏻
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Very good video. I just started shooting a DA/SA pistol about 10 months ago and love it as my EDC. I've got a short reach trigger along with a trigger bar and springs I've installed. Smoooth as a baby's bottom.
Thank you for this video. I am in a police academy right now and the Sig P226 is the handgun that we use in our agency. We have been qualifying with our handguns and I found the double action trigger was very difficult for me. After I get past the first shot I am fine, but that first shot has been hard for me. Thank you for the video, it really helped me a lot!
Glad to hear it helped. The best drills to master the trigger are single shot presentations from holster or ready position. After the D/A shot prep the trigger with reset, but don't fire. Then, decock the trigger and repeat. Do this 25 times or more per session. Next work a two shot drill from holster or a ready position. Finally do lots of dry practice with just the DA trigger. DA triggers are tough but can be mastered with lots of practice. Good luck.
SMOOTH PULL...straight towards your heart, eye on front post. Sounds like you have the rest figured out! Thank God your Academy has equipped you with the best.
I'm buying that for my landlord. I still dig Glock but Sig is better. The grip is stellar. It's like switching from a Chevy to a GMC ...lol... I was giving up on dating until I met a chick that outshoots a lot if people around her. I wanna go out with her but she's kinda Glenn Close in a creepy sort of way. Yours is one inch shorter than that 226. I'm curious how that will perform.
Very well done, after you've gotten comfortable with the follow up shot, I would've liked to see a series of double shots following the initial double action shot. I happen to have a P226 with the STR and I'm working on mastering the trigger. Thanks for sharing.
great lesson sir,Massad Ayoob gives similar advice in learning the trigger on a double action revolver, rolling the long trigger pull back,thank you,I look forward to the next video.
Thanks for the video. I have been a Glock guy for 10 years. I recently bought a 92fs and the quality and feel of the firearm converted me to preferring a da/sa trigger. On the hunt now to add a sig p226 to my collection. The gun shop by me has a used sheriffs trade in for $600. It appears to be in great shape. Think I may pick it up
I personally am a striker fired pistol guy. However, I own the Sig Legion 9mm in SAO and DA. Both are very nice. I find most police trades are good values!
Great video. I went target shooting yesterday and was getting frustrated shooting my 226. My grouping with my Springfield xdm was pretty good but my aim with my sig was all over. I couldn't get consistent or decent grouping
Sir, thank you for watching and commenting. I’m not sure how best to provide advice other than to ask you a few questions. When shooting either pistol that you mentioned, are you at a relatively short distance such as 3 yards? Starting at a short distance like this will allow you to determine the issue is. Once you can put all shots in essentially the same hole then you would step back to 4 yards, 5 yards, 7 yards, 10 yards. This simple step back process allows most people to quickly fix trigger management issues. If the issue is transitioning from double action to single action, spending a great deal of time working the double action trigger only will help this. Over the years of practice and teaching, I’ve discovered most accuracy issues or grouping issues are really about trigger management and proper site alignment. Most people press the trigger too quickly while anticipating to recoil. Ideally the trigger press happens so incredibly slowly that when the trigger breaks and engages the seer the round firing is actually a surprise. When I demonstrate this to students by slowly pressing the palm of their hand they begin to understand how incredibly slowly and smoothly and pressing the trigger. Once a student understands the trigger management part of the press they can speed up that process. Dry practice without ammunition is also a great way to develop a smooth press. I hope this helps. Thanks again for watching I hope you will subscribe to the channel.
I have been watching your videos for some time always enjoy watching yours are not only entertaining but also educative and informative thank you very much and happy new year
Rex, thanks for commenting and watching. The DeCocker is managed with either the dominant or nondominant thumb. After firing the shots, the trigger finger goes straight along the frame of the gun. Using the dominant or nondominant thumb, the operator presses the decocking mechanism downward. This will safely drop the hammer. It is essential to keep your trigger finger away from the trigger and outside of the trigger guard during this process. I hope you were subscribe to the channel.
Wish, thanks for the advice! I hope to own a P226 one day, but I do own an HK P30 which utilizes the same DA to SA transition, so this training will be valuable for that pistol as well. Keep up the great videos!
another good training vid i do spend a lot of time working double action pull..i have 2 ruger p series guns..love the guns just have to work on the double action....have had these a long time ,,but still work on double action draw and pull....need that first shot on target... thanks
That trigger looks smooth and consistent through the whole pull. I have a DASA that stacks and gets really heavy towards the end of the pull, always end up pulling down shooting low. Hopefully it will break in.
love the 226 DAK! Probably getting another police surplus DA/SA 226 (I love the P220 and SP2022, the first sigs I owned, more of an H&K LEM guy but that's one reason I took to the DAK, I Think), finding the trade-ins in .40 for the price the yare...so worth it, buy a 9mm barrel for both and have two P226's in two trigger systems and 2 calibers between both for under $900.
Thanks Chris, appreciate the feedback. I am offering a basic defensive pistol class on february 15th. This class is appropriate for people with basic to intermediate skills. Details are on my website. Also I do a ton of one-on-one instruction.
Thank for the good video all I shoot is double action to single action guns I'm trying to be good with them I however got a striker fired gun and can't seem to get use to it
Thanks for commenting. Yes, this works and was taught to me be a former DevGru operator. Since the 226 was his primary sidearm for most of his 20 years in service, his skills were amazing, and this technique helped me a hundreds of others, I'd say it works. Hope you'll subscribe.
Another good training aid is to use a snap cap and use a teacup hold, dry fire until your sight picture does not move while pressing the trigger. Works with any type of handgun.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC it is a little known practice tool that has been forgotten about. it is not a be all solution, but it is still useful with the other drills you mentioned. I'm surprised it is not brought up much now considering how useful it is.
Probably the third or fourth time, I've seen this video. Always room for re-learning and correction if needed. Always practice DA trigger pull, as it's essential prior to SA mode. Sig P226 is an excellent gun, the sights seems tricky at certain distance. When I first shot my P226, seems zeroed at 7ft distance. What's the correct zeroed distance? Sometimes I feel it needs to be zeroed at between 21-40 feet max. Minimize error when it comes to self-defense handgun set-up.
I seriously need this kind of practice with my 226. With single stage I’m able to shoot super tight groups but the double action pull always throws my first shot low
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I just bought a P226 and I'm waiting for my 10 day background check to be over then I can pick it up. Unfortunately, living in California means that we are very restricted pertaining to firearms. I bought the CA version and it has a LCI and mag disconnect. People tell me I should have bought a used non roster version but it's already too late. Regardless, the 226 is an awesome pistol and I look forward to using it. I guess if I really don't like the CA version I can always sell it and pick up a used non roster one.
Removing the mag disconnect is about a five minute job. I took out the one in my CA P226 MK the first time I cleaned it. Dry practice is a PITA with a mag disconnect. Removing the LCI will just create a narrow space for carbon to collect.
Well done sir, I shoot the 226 fairly well, the 227 is kicking my butt. I'm going to practice that double action, thanks...I did install short reset triggers on both and are very comfortable with them, thanks again.
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I have a P226 and 2 P229 Sigs. I absolutely love the da/sa configuration and no one does it better than Sig.
Great vid. Been around guns most all my life. Got my 1st Sig a week ago, P226 Combat....Love it! Not sure why I waited so long. Very informative vid, Thank you! Just 1 ?... Do you ever get the "are you related to Boyd Codington" ? 😀
Sigs have been around for years and many other with a DA/SA trigger. I think many got it about now and frankly don’t care since most have striker fired guns now.
I shoot low and left too. I watched a video and said I was pushing the trigger pull instead of pulling straight back. when Im conscious of that I put them dead on and when I forget I catch myself doing it every now and then.
Great video! I shoot uspsa with a cz75 and this will be a big help. Do you think you could do a video on how to develop the ability to shoot accurately with both eyes open? I haven't found a good one and I cannot do it! Thanks again, keep up the good work.
Looks like I've come across an older but very applicable video. My only concern is at the end of the video when you commented the grouping was tight, but not on target, but good for a double-action trigger. So, I've not shot a double-action trigger, but I'm considering a Sig P220R DAK. I consider myself still a beginner (probably shot less than 500 rounds total in my life), so maybe I've not developed the muscle memory for a "standard" trigger that would affect my accuracy using a DAK trigger. I'd really appreciate your feedback because I don't want to buy a pistol and not shoot it accurately (2nd most important characteristic behind reliability). Lastly, will my shooting a DAK trigger affect my accuracy when shooting a non-double action trigger? I have 3 other pistols that are "standard": S&W SW.380, Taurus PT-58S, Beretta 92S (European model used by the Italian LE). Thanks again for a VERY well thought through and executed lesson.
Thanks for watching. Here is another video you might enjoy. th-cam.com/video/oBKjYVho9Hk/w-d-xo.html Personally, I think the DA/SA pistols require total dedication to that platform. They are good. However, for newer shooters they can be frustrating. Looking back at hundreds of students I've worked with we've seen that most people have much better success with striker fired guns. Same trigger press on every shot. I find most people learn faster, gain confidence and proficiency faster with striker fired guns. I've reviewed a bunch of striker fired guns. I'd also encourage you to take some classes. Ideally they'd be shooting classes focused on shooting not powerpoint lectures. If you're interested in training with my company, you can always host us to teach a class at your club. I'd suggest looking at several different brands of striker fired guns. Try to shoot them before buying. Get the one that has the best ergonomics for you. Good luck
This is good info - I found no issue shooting my Mk25 doing controlled pairs very quickly. I think it has been because of carrying a DA revolver for the past 2yrs - that and I use to own a DAK P229. But I think for a 1911 shooter or a plastic shooter who has no experience with a traditional DA/SA pistol - they might have some apprehension with it. Back in the late 90s as plastic was taking over I remember a retired DSS Agent who was assisting in my NRA safety course telling me striker fired guns will be the norm soon. He had carried a S&W 357mag originally and said when he transitioned to a SIG it was the best thing to have a DA/SA system to get quicker follow up shots "as well as more bullets". I remember he thought the DA/SA would become extinct in 10yrs because of the Glock. Well they are still around but not as popular...Thanks for the vid.
If you grew up on the DA/SA transition you're likely a rock star on the platform. Like any action, its a matter of training. regrettably most people who shoot and own the DA/SA pistol don't practice shooting the gun much in DA mode. Most chamber a round and shoot SA only. One reason I like striker fired guns is the consistency of trigger press from first to last shot. However the DA/SA platform is very good and has plenty of value. Thanks for watching...
Im an idiot. I did this exact drill with my Beretta after I got it, and I shoot nice tight centered groups with it now. After getting my P229, I shot very low and to the left. I didn't even think to do this drill.
I liked the video, but I did a thumps down to get your attention. My question is on the sig 226, can I cock the hammer for the first shot in single action mode? I am trying to decide if I should buy a sig saurer exposed hammer model or a striker fired hammerless model like the p365? Also can you talk about safety issues hammer vs hammerless for concealed carry.
I try to answer all comments and questions. As far as rating the video a thumbs down that's your choice. I have a video on my channel that addresses the differences between striker, single action and double action pistols. th-cam.com/video/Tzns-P-Abt0/w-d-xo.html An exposed hammer isn't an issue or relevant in my opinion unless you feel the hammer will snag from concealment. (Not an issue to me). I believe you're confusing the hammer with the "action". The action refers to how the trigger functions with the hammer. with a single action trigger the trigger simple drops a "cocked" hammer. With the double action, the trigger both cocke and drops the hammer. With striker fired the trigger releases the striker. As far as safety... That is a matter of training. Some believe a double action (DA) trigger is "safer" because of the long and heavy first trigger pull ... as the trigger cocks and drops the hammer. However than means two different trigger pull weights. 1st double action, and then after the first shot the gun is in single action because the slide has cycles and the hammer is cocked for the 2nd shot. I prefer Single Action Only (SAO) or striker fired guns because the trigger is consistent. I have videos comparing the Sig Legion SAO and the same gun in DA/SA. Bottom line, regardless of the gun you pick. get formal training especially safety training. Good luck
I've watched several of your videos , was wondering what your preference is over glock and sig pistol, I've never fired a sig, there is a used 40 cal sig at local shop that I saw yesterday just curious of your professional opinion. Wonder if there's a big difference in performance not that I'm trained nor a great shot just thought it looked well built and has a good feel in hand, they're asking 595 for it it's double action but don't recall decocker on it. Thank you Kevin
No sure I understand. Yes I can press through the DA fire a round and transition toSA faster...yes I've done this on a timer. The fact is this transition is harder to master than a SAO or striker fired action. But with training it can be mastered.
Just little recommendation to you. When you see that you are hitting the target slightly left (6:43), shoot slightly right then!! Is that so tricky?? :)
+Morris Zachrisson Thanks for the feedback. I am shooting for "groups". Hitting the center as in bullseye shooting is not what I am trying to do. Yes, I can certainly adjust my point of aim to compensate. Again, I do appreciate your suggestion. All the best and stay safe.
Pullin your shots low L requires neither Kentucky windage nor sight adjustment, but shooting off the pad of the index finger as opposed to the first knuckle. Other than that great training tip for da/sa, I'm gonna try this with my dak sig!!!!
@TheNomdeguerre : Do you go around analyzing every comment on youtube? If Morris was being clueless, let him be. That's what the Guns, Gear instructor did. It's equally irritating to see other people butt in to stuff that's none of their business.
Hey bro, I have a Sigma in 40S&W but its basically the same as a 9mm.If you want to PM me I'd be glad to go over it with you. Even though they are inexpensive they are very fine guns. The hate for the triggers is a simple 20 min. fix anyone can do at no cost. Also bro if you find a video review on a Glock 19 It is 99% the same gun. That's why S&W stopped making them. They were sued for patent infringement and had to pay Glock for each one sold. Now they have the SD9VE model which is very close to the Sigma but Glock gets nothing from these sales. Peace brother. If you have a Sigma and train with it you will love it. I shoot IDPA with mine and I carry a Sig M11 for my EDC. Oh and being I have a P series Sig (M11 is a military designation for a P228) I did like this video as Im working on my trigger control and transition from DA to SA right now myself...
A question about your shooting glasses....are they prescription "reading" glasses or needed for distance? I need glasses for reading, but not for any distance vision. And, of course, the front sight is at "reading distance", so is completely out-of-focus with normal shooting glasses. I realize I'm not the only "old guy" with this issue, but would appreciate your feedback. I've basically given up on using anything but standard shooting glasses, so I no longer have tight groups, though all hits are in the center of a target. BTW: Nice video.
I wear corrective lenses. They are called "progressive" lenses... These allow different correction at different levels within the lens. Similar to tri-focals. Many shooters with eye challenges get special corrective lenses made so they can overcome the aging of the eyes. If I were you I'd go find an eye doctor who is a shooter and spend some money to get a good pair of corrective lenses for shooting.
Guns and Gear & On Target Training, LLC I used progressive lenses for years while shooting, but having to constantly move the head to adjust for the progressions was a royal pain in the rear end. Since I don't need any correction for distance, the only issue is having the front sight in focus. I've even tried stick-on lenses placed in the upper half of the right-side lens. This worked reasonably well, but I finally bailed-out on those and have stayed with standard shooting glasses and a slightly blurred front sight. However, I have shot with "readers" and they actually worked pretty well......I just look over the top to see the target at distance after I've finished shooting. Anyway.....thanks for your response.
Baron, if there is no round chambered in the barrel then of course you have to actuate the slide which will strip around from the magazine and insert it into the chamber. As you do that that will put the gun into single action. The 226 is designed so that there is a DeCocking mechanism allowing you to take the pistol from single action into double action. This is much safer than manually trying to lower the hammer under stress. If around is chambered and the gun is in double action the first shot will be a long heavy double action trigger pole followed by single action after that. I hope this helps.
The da/sa guns have definitely fallen out of favor in recent years (especially with guys under 30 years old like myself) but you absolutely can become incredibly accurate with them if you're willing to put in the time to train and practice with it. I carry a custom CZ 75 PCR and I shoot it way better than my M&P 9c and my g26. Really, anyone can become proficient with a double action trigger - it just takes repetition. I personally put anywhere from 800-1200 rounds through my CZ every month because I'm able to spend a little bit of time at the indoor range about once a week. If you're just looking for a gun to throw into a drawer and forget about it until you need it, depending on who you are, I might not suggest going da/sa but for every day carry, you really shouldn't dismiss them as an option because some of them are truly phenomenal guns.
Agree the DA/SA guns are great. Just takes training and discipline to master it. As an instructor the majority of people who come to training shoot striker fired guns. However, maybe 5% of the people who come shoot DA/SA. Of these there is occasionally someone like you who is really dialed in but the other half can't make a precision shot from holster at 5 yards because they don;t have the trigger management skills through the DA trigger.
Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC The need for solid trigger control is always present but it's even more needed when shooting DA. Anything that requires fine control and focus under pressure can be learned given the right amount of commitment to fundamentals and practice. Love the videos, man. Keep em coming.
I just got a Walther P99c AS for EDC and it's a DA/SA striker fire with a very short reset. Nice video for practice learning that trigger. Unfortunately ranges around here don't allow holster draw for liability reasons, so I'll have to work that in dry practice. Suggestions for range?
SA means Single Action. The trigger performers 1 (one) action and that is to release the hammer. Because this gun is a semi-automatic, the hammer gets cocked as the slide reciprocates during the firing sequence.
That is exactly what should happen. However, to master the technique most folks have to go slower and learn this process first. Once that is done the trigger should be resent in recoil! Freat point and thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the reply. Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? In my experience, it's a poor trigger PRESS aka trigger control that can cause shots to miss and not the reset. Can trigger reset ever influence where the bullet goes? I don't think so because the bullet will be out of the barrel before even the fastest human on the planet could react to it. So a good press on any pistol is the key. All that said, why then even introduce pinning the trigger? Once you start to go fast in something like a bill drill can a shooter perceive exactly where they reset to? Probably not. For instance on a Glock, there is no way you're going to be able to shoot fast and hear or feel the reset after each shot. But now you have to learn to overcome the instinct to pin the trigger. Anyway, food for thought and am really curious to hear your thoughts. There have been some good discussion on pistol forum about this topic as well and I am always very appreciative of what instructors think about the topic. Thanks for reading!
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC Thanks for the reply. Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? In my experience, it's a poor trigger PRESS aka trigger control that can cause shots to miss and not the reset. Can trigger reset ever influence where the bullet goes? I don't think so because the bullet will be out of the barrel before even the fastest human on the planet could react to it. So a good press on any pistol is the key. All that said, why then even introduce pinning the trigger? Once you start to go fast in something like a bill drill can a shooter perceive exactly where they reset to? Probably not. For instance on a Glock, there is no way you're going to be able to shoot fast and hear or feel the reset after each shot. But now you have to learn to overcome the instinct to pin the trigger. Anyway, food for thought and am really curious to hear your thoughts. There have been some good discussion on pistol forum about this topic as well and I am always very appreciative of what instructors think about the topic. Thanks for reading!
Right on. I’ve done this for my Sigg pistols and find it to be a huge improvement. Thanks for watching and commenting. I hope you will subscribe to the channel.
Depends on the specific gun...And how the gun fits your hands. The grip frame with affect finger placement on the trigger based on the size of someones hands. The old grips on the P226 were a struggle for me. The new E2 grips make all the difference. I prefer striker fired guns... Glocks and SW M&Ps specifically as that is where I have spent my training time. But the specific handgun brand or action type is largely irrelevant, hits on target count!
I've been shooting traditional DA/SA firearms for 25 years. This is my platform. I have one as a duty weapon. This is an EXCELLENT training video for those willing to master the trigger on a formidable weapon.
Great video I run a P226 and P229 both in 357 Sig
This is pretty much spot on what I learned a Sig Sauer’s Academy
I started with an old P220 in 45 ACP and I would do these drills twice a week for apx 30 minutes each
I really appreciate the time you are taking to share your knowledge
Thanks for watching and commenting. I too spent many, many days in classes at the Sig Academy over the years (spend a few dollars as well!). I was the odd guy who shot my Glocks or M&P striker fired guns in most of the advanced pistol classes. The pro shop deals encouraged me to buy a couple of 226 9mm Legion Pistols, that I like very much.
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I have a model 22 glock that I am very very fond of
The one thing you can always say about a Glock is that it will work.
There is nothing wrong with Glock
My first class at Sig Sauer a young woman was carrying a smaller Glock in 9mm
She was very good to say the least
A couple people made some comments in regards to her carrying a Glock at a Sig class
But the instructor was very quick
To remind everyone that it’s not what you carry
It’s the fact that you can use what you carry.
Again thanks for the great video
Having a 226 i never did this, nice to learn a new trigger shooting!
Thanks a lot!!!
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Went from a glock to my sig. Took some time as you stated, practiced as you stated and now this is my competition gun. Love it, on target!. Great vid, thank you!
+Gary Carnevale Nice to hear. The sig is one nice handgun
Thanks as
Always ..informative vid
Great video ! Have had my 226 for about 2 months now. I recently installed the SRT kit to match the action of my M11-A1, I tell everyone how great the single action and short reset is on both guns. I am now motivated to master the double action, decocked, which is how either gun is kept ready on the nightstand. Thank you again for a great video.
This is truly a great video. It helped with my P226 AND P229 DA/SA. Thank you so much.
Tomasso Campisi Thanks for watching and commenting. Gld to hear these tips are helping. All the best and stay safe.
Really??? This guy SUCKS!!!!!! From five yards he should be able hit inside the circle every fucking time!
@@markarament6776 put up a video doing better.
Thanks for the pointers in this video. Just picked up my first DA/SA (SIG P226)! The shooting exercises you show here should help me improve my trigger control.
Excellent video. I meant to post a comment sooner, but after about 100-150 rounds, I was able to put 2 bullets in 1 hole with my 226/9mm doing this exercise at 7 yards...multiple times.
Ragin' Rog Well done sir!
I just purchased my first gun and it happens to be the P226. Thank you for you video. I found it very insightful and will review the video again just before I go out to the range for a session. I was having some trouble understanding what you called "rolling the trigger", then you demonstrated it for the last time at the end of the video where you weren't firing from the other side. From this view, I was able to see what you were doing because your trigger finger was no longer blocking the view. Thank you for that.
Rolling the trigger... smooth press consistent all the way through.
Purchased a Sig P226 back in Aug 1996 and its always been my favorite. The new 320 is slowing replacing my 226. Great review.
+thedrj2009 Well, the 226 is my special pistol because she's been with me since Aug 1996. I say the 320 is now my favorite because it weighs less, trigger is fantastic and it feels great in the hand. I never compared both pistols until a few weeks back and I was shocked at the weight difference between the two. I have a 320 carry and 320 subcompact. I carry the 320 SC because it prints less but both are excellent guns. Triggers are very consistent between 320 Carry and Subcompact. My coworker recently purchased a full size 320 and that trigger is very consistent to my own pistols. Sorry about the soapbox, but I haven't fired an American made 226 so I can't speak on that pistol. Do you own a 226? Follow me on IG @ Sigtard. I will post more pics in the next few days. Just need to find the right setting for each gun.
Thanks for the great tip. I run sig sp2022 and most of my dry fire practice is working the DA. I'll be doing the DA/SA drill next time at the range.
firing mine in DA only for a few hundred rounds really improved my handling the Sig DA-SA transition. I believe bottom line is repetetions.
Good video and thanks for sharing.
I have a Sig P226 Navy (Mk25) that is by far my favorite of all my pistols. Excellent handgun. Yes, training with it in the beginning like this video shows is absolutely necessary, but easy to get the hang of and once you do you don’t want to switch back to other platforms. 👍
PS - I can routinely hit my 8” steel target at 50 yards in both DA and SA with my 226. I swear its the gun, because I can’t really do that with any of my other pistols.
I hear you. They are outstanding pistols. I happen to upgrade to the Sigg legion 226 single action only and added the double action/single action version as well. If you like the standard 226 the single action only version would blow your mind!
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Been shooting a "few" sigs.....cant say it any better! Spend 2-3 mags per practice session decocking and firing, then align, reset and fire. This is especially comforting to those who carry ANY DA / SA semi auto pistols or revolvers. Ive found it to be a valuable tool to teach those "afraid" to carry a semi auto without a safety, one in the chamber. For some it's a mental block regarding an accidental discharge. The Sig, Beretta and Walther etc, its the security of requiring a very deliberate first shot with the follow up coming with ease and confidence. Pro shooters want the same pull / break every time. We're not all in that category. Actually, I prefer the sig option, especially when equipped with the Short Reset Triggers and over 10,000 round 100% reliability (personal experience) . When its all said and done, be comfortable with what you carry. If it's a range firearm or BASIC home defense, this may not be the best option for you. If you struggle with the "LEAVE ONE IN THE CHAMBER", consider the DA / SA Sig or consider a Double Action / Single action revolver.
This video is perfect, I just bought a police trade in German 226 and while I have a CZ 75 I really want to train with the SIG to master the different trigger pulls, I also have an M&P too.
Thanks so much for an informative video! I just purchased a sig p229 Legion, haven’t even fired it yet. Will do in a couple days. Always wondered how the DA/SA trigger felt. I carry a Glock 23 for edc, so the sig will be a little different. Now I have a good idea what to look for. Can’t wait to get acquainted with it! Thanks again, well explained. 👍🏻
Very informative video..I practice this every time I take my P239 or P225 to the range.
Kyle, thanks so much for coming.
Best 2.2.6 DA/SA control pair to double tap tutorial ever
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Very good video. I just started shooting a DA/SA pistol about 10 months ago and love it as my EDC. I've got a short reach trigger along with a trigger bar and springs I've installed. Smoooth as a baby's bottom.
Sweet... they're nice pistols
Appreciate it I am working on my 226 now . I am just starting to run the double shot drills.
Good work!
Thank you for this video. I am in a police academy right now and the Sig P226 is the handgun that we use in our agency. We have been qualifying with our handguns and I found the double action trigger was very difficult for me. After I get past the first shot I am fine, but that first shot has been hard for me. Thank you for the video, it really helped me a lot!
Glad to hear it helped. The best drills to master the trigger are single shot presentations from holster or ready position. After the D/A shot prep the trigger with reset, but don't fire. Then, decock the trigger and repeat. Do this 25 times or more per session. Next work a two shot drill from holster or a ready position. Finally do lots of dry practice with just the DA trigger. DA triggers are tough but can be mastered with lots of practice. Good luck.
I'm going to try this with my SP2022 9mm or the big boy, my P227 45
SMOOTH PULL...straight towards your heart, eye on front post. Sounds like you have the rest figured out! Thank God your Academy has equipped you with the best.
funny, shot my p226 ldc yesterday. absolutly no problems with it. had fine groups. love this gun!!!
Nice vid - I have the P226 in .40, and that double action pull has always frustrated me. I will try these exercises you mention.
Thanx
Thank you I am going from shooting a Glock for years to my first sig p 229 it's so different from the Glock so now I'll practice practice practice
Good to hear. This might help as well. th-cam.com/video/b-qQ83pGd_o/w-d-xo.html
I'm buying that for my landlord. I still dig Glock but Sig is better. The grip is stellar. It's like switching from a Chevy to a GMC ...lol... I was giving up on dating until I met a chick that outshoots a lot if people around her. I wanna go out with her but she's kinda Glenn Close in a creepy sort of way. Yours is one inch shorter than that 226. I'm curious how that will perform.
Great pistols! P-226, P-227, and P-229 with SRT kits and standard triggers.
Appreciate the advice. Just ordered a p226 and will practice this trigger mgmt.
Very well done, after you've gotten comfortable with the follow up shot, I would've liked to see a series of double shots following the initial double action shot. I happen to have a P226 with the STR and I'm working on mastering the trigger. Thanks for sharing.
Great video! I own a Glock and I just won a SIG P226 M25 Navy in a raffle. This is the video I have been looking for before I go to the range. Thanks.
great lesson sir,Massad Ayoob gives similar advice in learning the trigger on a double action revolver, rolling the long trigger pull back,thank you,I look forward to the next video.
Thanks for the video. I have been a Glock guy for 10 years. I recently bought a 92fs and the quality and feel of the firearm converted me to preferring a da/sa trigger. On the hunt now to add a sig p226 to my collection. The gun shop by me has a used sheriffs trade in for $600. It appears to be in great shape. Think I may pick it up
I personally am a striker fired pistol guy. However, I own the Sig Legion 9mm in SAO and DA. Both are very nice. I find most police trades are good values!
Great video. I went target shooting yesterday and was getting frustrated shooting my 226. My grouping with my Springfield xdm was pretty good but my aim with my sig was all over. I couldn't get consistent or decent grouping
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I’m not sure how best to provide advice other than to ask you a few questions. When shooting either pistol that you mentioned, are you at a relatively short distance such as 3 yards? Starting at a short distance like this will allow you to determine the issue is. Once you can put all shots in essentially the same hole then you would step back to 4 yards, 5 yards, 7 yards, 10 yards. This simple step back process allows most people to quickly fix trigger management issues.
If the issue is transitioning from double action to single action, spending a great deal of time working the double action trigger only will help this.
Over the years of practice and teaching, I’ve discovered most accuracy issues or grouping issues are really about trigger management and proper site alignment. Most people press the trigger too quickly while anticipating to recoil. Ideally the trigger press happens so incredibly slowly that when the trigger breaks and engages the seer the round firing is actually a surprise. When I demonstrate this to students by slowly pressing the palm of their hand they begin to understand how incredibly slowly and smoothly and pressing the trigger. Once a student understands the trigger management part of the press they can speed up that process.
Dry practice without ammunition is also a great way to develop a smooth press.
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Very good presentation I wish you would have also shown the left side of the pistol and how you use the decocker
Rex, thanks for commenting and watching.
The DeCocker is managed with either the dominant or nondominant thumb. After firing the shots, the trigger finger goes straight along the frame of the gun. Using the dominant or nondominant thumb, the operator presses the decocking mechanism downward. This will safely drop the hammer. It is essential to keep your trigger finger away from the trigger and outside of the trigger guard during this process.
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Wish, thanks for the advice! I hope to own a P226 one day, but I do own an HK P30 which utilizes the same DA to SA transition, so this training will be valuable for that pistol as well. Keep up the great videos!
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another good training vid i do spend a lot of time working double action pull..i have 2 ruger p series guns..love the guns just have to work on the double action....have had these a long time ,,but still work on double action draw and pull....need that first shot on target... thanks
This is an exercise I will bring to the range with me next time thank you so much
Kevin Tole Thanks, Kevin. It does make a difference if you're running this type of platform. You practice this you'll quickly mater the trigger.
Great advice. Ty. Just bought a 229 legion dasa can't wait to let her rip
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That trigger looks smooth and consistent through the whole pull. I have a DASA that stacks and gets really heavy towards the end of the pull, always end up pulling down shooting low. Hopefully it will break in.
Great video. Solid presentation and on point.
Much appreciated!
one of my favorites, my husband prefers them in DA/SA or an HK LEM trigger but he's enjoying it.
my bad, thought this was the DAK for a second, lol
Thanks!
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Thank you, Wish. I love your videos and teaching style. Keep it up, man!
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love the 226 DAK! Probably getting another police surplus DA/SA 226 (I love the P220 and SP2022, the first sigs I owned, more of an H&K LEM guy but that's one reason I took to the DAK, I Think), finding the trade-ins in .40 for the price the yare...so worth it, buy a 9mm barrel for both and have two P226's in two trigger systems and 2 calibers between both for under $900.
My buddy owns this gun and I fired it at the rang and found it to be pretty damn accurate.
This was a very helpful video, thanks for posting. Found your training website and will be coming to see you in person!
Thanks Chris, appreciate the feedback. I am offering a basic defensive pistol class on february 15th. This class is appropriate for people with basic to intermediate skills. Details are on my website. Also I do a ton of one-on-one instruction.
Great job explaining. Good teaching aid.
Many thanks!
Thank for the good video all I shoot is double action to single action guns I'm trying to be good with them I however got a striker fired gun and can't seem to get use to it
Great video! Gives me ideas on exercises to work on.
Seems very useful and will try it next range day
Thanks for commenting. Yes, this works and was taught to me be a former DevGru operator. Since the 226 was his primary sidearm for most of his 20 years in service, his skills were amazing, and this technique helped me a hundreds of others, I'd say it works.
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Another good training aid is to use a snap cap and use a teacup hold, dry fire until your sight picture does not move while pressing the trigger. Works with any type of handgun.
Great suggestion. Other than the "tea cup hold"... IMHO better to use a good grip or practice one handed.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC it is a little known practice tool that has been forgotten about. it is not a be all solution, but it is still useful with the other drills you mentioned. I'm surprised it is not brought up much now considering how useful it is.
Probably the third or fourth time, I've seen this video. Always room for re-learning and correction if needed. Always practice DA trigger pull, as it's essential prior to SA mode. Sig P226 is an excellent gun, the sights seems tricky at certain distance. When I first shot my P226, seems zeroed at 7ft distance. What's the correct zeroed distance? Sometimes I feel it needs to be zeroed at between 21-40 feet max. Minimize error when it comes to self-defense handgun set-up.
Good video while you were freezing to make it for us. The drills were very interesting.
Thanks for commenting and watching. These drill will really help anyone running a DA/SA semi-auto. All the best and stay safe.
I own a 220 love it its a beast
+drew55974 Great gun Sig 220!
Thanks for posting. Great sidearm
You bet
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I seriously need this kind of practice with my 226. With single stage I’m able to shoot super tight groups but the double action pull always throws my first shot low
Dry practice... it helps.
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Great video your instruction was very helpful and informative. I just subscribed to your channel. I am thinking about buying a P226.
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I just bought a P226 and I'm waiting for my 10 day background check to be over then I can pick it up. Unfortunately, living in California means that we are very restricted pertaining to firearms. I bought the CA version and it has a LCI and mag disconnect. People tell me I should have bought a used non roster version but it's already too late. Regardless, the 226 is an awesome pistol and I look forward to using it. I guess if I really don't like the CA version I can always sell it and pick up a used non roster one.
Removing the mag disconnect is about a five minute job. I took out the one in my CA P226 MK the first time I cleaned it. Dry practice is a PITA with a mag disconnect. Removing the LCI will just create a narrow space for carbon to collect.
Well done sir, I shoot the 226 fairly well, the 227 is kicking my butt. I'm going to practice that double action, thanks...I did install short reset triggers on both and are very comfortable with them, thanks again.
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I have a P226 and 2 P229 Sigs. I absolutely love the da/sa configuration and no one does it better than Sig.
CZ does it better. Sold my P226 MK25 and M11A1 and bought a CZ75 and a Custom CZ75 SP01 Shadow, simply a very fine piece.
I'm going to try this with my smaller midsize sp2022 9mm
Great vid. Been around guns most all my life. Got my 1st Sig a week ago, P226 Combat....Love it! Not sure why I waited so long. Very informative vid, Thank you! Just 1 ?... Do you ever get the "are you related to Boyd Codington" ? 😀
good tips most ppl just shoot single action i have been shooting pure double action and i shoot pretty good on it i run a p229 elite
Excellent to hear! Thanks for watching... hope you will share this video with others who might be interested.
Sigs have been around for years and many other with a DA/SA trigger. I think many got it about now and frankly don’t care since most have striker fired guns now.
I shoot low and left too. I watched a video and said I was pushing the trigger pull instead of pulling straight back. when Im conscious of that I put them dead on and when I forget I catch myself doing it every now and then.
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Great video! I shoot uspsa with a cz75 and this will be a big help. Do you think you could do a video on how to develop the ability to shoot accurately with both eyes open? I haven't found a good one and I cannot do it! Thanks again, keep up the good work.
Let me see what we can do with that. Basically it's a training issue getting you to focus on your front sight.
Looks like I've come across an older but very applicable video. My only concern is at the end of the video when you commented the grouping was tight, but not on target, but good for a double-action trigger. So, I've not shot a double-action trigger, but I'm considering a Sig P220R DAK. I consider myself still a beginner (probably shot less than 500 rounds total in my life), so maybe I've not developed the muscle memory for a "standard" trigger that would affect my accuracy using a DAK trigger. I'd really appreciate your feedback because I don't want to buy a pistol and not shoot it accurately (2nd most important characteristic behind reliability). Lastly, will my shooting a DAK trigger affect my accuracy when shooting a non-double action trigger? I have 3 other pistols that are "standard": S&W SW.380, Taurus PT-58S, Beretta 92S (European model used by the Italian LE). Thanks again for a VERY well thought through and executed lesson.
Thanks for watching. Here is another video you might enjoy. th-cam.com/video/oBKjYVho9Hk/w-d-xo.html
Personally, I think the DA/SA pistols require total dedication to that platform. They are good. However, for newer shooters they can be frustrating. Looking back at hundreds of students I've worked with we've seen that most people have much better success with striker fired guns. Same trigger press on every shot. I find most people learn faster, gain confidence and proficiency faster with striker fired guns. I've reviewed a bunch of striker fired guns. I'd also encourage you to take some classes. Ideally they'd be shooting classes focused on shooting not powerpoint lectures.
If you're interested in training with my company, you can always host us to teach a class at your club.
I'd suggest looking at several different brands of striker fired guns. Try to shoot them before buying. Get the one that has the best ergonomics for you. Good luck
This is good info - I found no issue shooting my Mk25 doing controlled pairs very quickly. I think it has been because of carrying a DA revolver for the past 2yrs - that and I use to own a DAK P229. But I think for a 1911 shooter or a plastic shooter who has no experience with a traditional DA/SA pistol - they might have some apprehension with it.
Back in the late 90s as plastic was taking over I remember a retired DSS Agent who was assisting in my NRA safety course telling me striker fired guns will be the norm soon. He had carried a S&W 357mag originally and said when he transitioned to a SIG it was the best thing to have a DA/SA system to get quicker follow up shots "as well as more bullets". I remember he thought the DA/SA would become extinct in 10yrs because of the Glock. Well they are still around but not as popular...Thanks for the vid.
If you grew up on the DA/SA transition you're likely a rock star on the platform. Like any action, its a matter of training. regrettably most people who shoot and own the DA/SA pistol don't practice shooting the gun much in DA mode. Most chamber a round and shoot SA only. One reason I like striker fired guns is the consistency of trigger press from first to last shot. However the DA/SA platform is very good and has plenty of value. Thanks for watching...
Thanks! Great video!
Im an idiot. I did this exact drill with my Beretta after I got it, and I shoot nice tight centered groups with it now. After getting my P229, I shot very low and to the left. I didn't even think to do this drill.
I liked the video, but I did a thumps down to get your attention. My question is on the sig 226, can I cock the hammer for the first shot in single action mode? I am trying to decide if I should buy a sig saurer exposed hammer model or a striker fired hammerless model like the p365? Also can you talk about safety issues hammer vs hammerless for concealed carry.
I try to answer all comments and questions. As far as rating the video a thumbs down that's your choice. I have a video on my channel that addresses the differences between striker, single action and double action pistols. th-cam.com/video/Tzns-P-Abt0/w-d-xo.html
An exposed hammer isn't an issue or relevant in my opinion unless you feel the hammer will snag from concealment. (Not an issue to me).
I believe you're confusing the hammer with the "action". The action refers to how the trigger functions with the hammer. with a single action trigger the trigger simple drops a "cocked" hammer. With the double action, the trigger both cocke and drops the hammer. With striker fired the trigger releases the striker.
As far as safety... That is a matter of training. Some believe a double action (DA) trigger is "safer" because of the long and heavy first trigger pull ... as the trigger cocks and drops the hammer. However than means two different trigger pull weights. 1st double action, and then after the first shot the gun is in single action because the slide has cycles and the hammer is cocked for the 2nd shot. I prefer Single Action Only (SAO) or striker fired guns because the trigger is consistent. I have videos comparing the Sig Legion SAO and the same gun in DA/SA.
Bottom line, regardless of the gun you pick. get formal training especially safety training. Good luck
I've watched several of your videos , was wondering what your preference is over glock and sig pistol, I've never fired a sig, there is a used 40 cal sig at local shop that I saw yesterday just curious of your professional opinion. Wonder if there's a big difference in performance not that I'm trained nor a great shot just thought it looked well built and has a good feel in hand, they're asking 595 for it it's double action but don't recall decocker on it.
Thank you
Kevin
That's great, but can you do it at speed with the minimal pressure of a timer and movement?
No sure I understand. Yes I can press through the DA fire a round and transition toSA faster...yes I've done this on a timer. The fact is this transition is harder to master than a SAO or striker fired action. But with training it can be mastered.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC How do you manage it? I usually flub the SA as if it were the DA. Cannot get past this.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Love my P226 DAK!
Great video 👍🏽
Thank you sir!
Just little recommendation to you. When you see that you are hitting the target slightly left (6:43), shoot slightly right then!! Is that so tricky?? :)
+Morris Zachrisson Thanks for the feedback. I am shooting for "groups". Hitting the center as in bullseye shooting is not what I am trying to do. Yes, I can certainly adjust my point of aim to compensate. Again, I do appreciate your suggestion. All the best and stay safe.
Pullin your shots low L requires neither Kentucky windage nor sight adjustment, but shooting off the pad of the index finger as opposed to the first knuckle. Other than that great training tip for da/sa, I'm gonna try this with my dak sig!!!!
@TheNomdeguerre : Do you go around analyzing every comment on youtube? If Morris was being clueless, let him be. That's what the Guns, Gear instructor did. It's equally irritating to see other people butt in to stuff that's none of their business.
Can you do a shooting review on the smith and wesson sigma SW9VE??? Thanks!(:
I don't know anyone who owns one. If I find one I will certainly review.
Hey bro, I have a Sigma in 40S&W but its basically the same as a 9mm.If you want to PM me I'd be glad to go over it with you. Even though they are inexpensive they are very fine guns. The hate for the triggers is a simple 20 min. fix anyone can do at no cost. Also bro if you find a video review on a Glock 19 It is 99% the same gun. That's why S&W stopped making them. They were sued for patent infringement and had to pay Glock for each one sold. Now they have the SD9VE model which is very close to the Sigma but Glock gets nothing from these sales. Peace brother. If you have a Sigma and train with it you will love it. I shoot IDPA with mine and I carry a Sig M11 for my EDC. Oh and being I have a P series Sig (M11 is a military designation for a P228) I did like this video as Im working on my trigger control and transition from DA to SA right now myself...
Such common sense but GREAT advice.
Thanks for watching
A question about your shooting glasses....are they prescription "reading" glasses or needed for distance? I need glasses for reading, but not for any distance vision. And, of course, the front sight is at "reading distance", so is completely out-of-focus with normal shooting glasses. I realize I'm not the only "old guy" with this issue, but would appreciate your feedback. I've basically given up on using anything but standard shooting glasses, so I no longer have tight groups, though all hits are in the center of a target. BTW: Nice video.
I wear corrective lenses. They are called "progressive" lenses... These allow different correction at different levels within the lens. Similar to tri-focals. Many shooters with eye challenges get special corrective lenses made so they can overcome the aging of the eyes. If I were you I'd go find an eye doctor who is a shooter and spend some money to get a good pair of corrective lenses for shooting.
Guns and Gear & On Target Training, LLC I used progressive lenses for years while shooting, but having to constantly move the head to adjust for the progressions was a royal pain in the rear end. Since I don't need any correction for distance, the only issue is having the front sight in focus. I've even tried stick-on lenses placed in the upper half of the right-side lens. This worked reasonably well, but I finally bailed-out on those and have stayed with standard shooting glasses and a slightly blurred front sight. However, I have shot with "readers" and they actually worked pretty well......I just look over the top to see the target at distance after I've finished shooting. Anyway.....thanks for your response.
Sig P229 Rockz!!
IMHO the DA on my 226 LDC is a bit too stiff.
I'd like to know how to lighten it up a bit
It's a lot more efficient to reset during recoil. That way once you pick up your front sight again you're ready to fire.
+Scsu74 100% right on! What we're doing here is showing folks the basic concept and doing it deliberately. Thanks for commenting and watching
+Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC ah gotcha! Great videos, very clear descriptions. Take care.
How to dry fire train with a P226 Mk1?
Exactly as described
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Can the 226 be shot rapidly from SA, or is it just a matter of feeling out (practicing) the trigger before it resets into DA?
SA trigger still resents. But yes a SA trigger is faster than a DAO.
I prefer DA/SA pistols and SIG is the best! H&K DA/SA a close second. If have both.
Do you have to cock back the slide to fire the first round then other rounds go as I apply pressure to the trigger?
Baron, if there is no round chambered in the barrel then of course you have to actuate the slide which will strip around from the magazine and insert it into the chamber. As you do that that will put the gun into single action. The 226 is designed so that there is a DeCocking mechanism allowing you to take the pistol from single action into double action. This is much safer than manually trying to lower the hammer under stress. If around is chambered and the gun is in double action the first shot will be a long heavy double action trigger pole followed by single action after that. I hope this helps.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC thanks I appreciate the help
The da/sa guns have definitely fallen out of favor in recent years (especially with guys under 30 years old like myself) but you absolutely can become incredibly accurate with them if you're willing to put in the time to train and practice with it. I carry a custom CZ 75 PCR and I shoot it way better than my M&P 9c and my g26.
Really, anyone can become proficient with a double action trigger - it just takes repetition. I personally put anywhere from 800-1200 rounds through my CZ every month because I'm able to spend a little bit of time at the indoor range about once a week. If you're just looking for a gun to throw into a drawer and forget about it until you need it, depending on who you are, I might not suggest going da/sa but for every day carry, you really shouldn't dismiss them as an option because some of them are truly phenomenal guns.
Agree the DA/SA guns are great. Just takes training and discipline to master it. As an instructor the majority of people who come to training shoot striker fired guns. However, maybe 5% of the people who come shoot DA/SA. Of these there is occasionally someone like you who is really dialed in but the other half can't make a precision shot from holster at 5 yards because they don;t have the trigger management skills through the DA trigger.
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The need for solid trigger control is always present but it's even more needed when shooting DA. Anything that requires fine control and focus under pressure can be learned given the right amount of commitment to fundamentals and practice.
Love the videos, man. Keep em coming.
I just got a Walther P99c AS for EDC and it's a DA/SA striker fire with a very short reset. Nice video for practice learning that trigger. Unfortunately ranges around here don't allow holster draw for liability reasons, so I'll have to work that in dry practice. Suggestions for range?
Yeah, everyone is striker gung ho and I’m not a big fan of striker pistols. I have a S&W Shield and its a love hate.
How do you shoot without blinking?
by the way
I just bought a sig p226 mk25 and will pick up today
Very nice gun! You will enjoy it... Thanks for watching and commenting. I doi appreciate your feedback.
Sir..does it mean ..wit SA only ..u hav to hammer it again n again to shoot a round!??.. old cowboy style!! Jus curious..
SA means Single Action. The trigger performers 1 (one) action and that is to release the hammer. Because this gun is a semi-automatic, the hammer gets cocked as the slide reciprocates during the firing sequence.
LOL.... That second shot surprised him.
Out of curiosity why don't you start off with resetting the trigger in recoil?
That is exactly what should happen. However, to master the technique most folks have to go slower and learn this process first. Once that is done the trigger should be resent in recoil! Freat point and thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the reply. Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? In my experience, it's a poor trigger PRESS aka trigger control that can cause shots to miss and not the reset. Can trigger reset ever influence where the bullet goes? I don't think so because the bullet will be out of the barrel before even the fastest human on the planet could react to it. So a good press on any pistol is the key.
All that said, why then even introduce pinning the trigger? Once you start to go fast in something like a bill drill can a shooter perceive exactly where they reset to? Probably not. For instance on a Glock, there is no way you're going to be able to shoot fast and hear or feel the reset after each shot. But now you have to learn to overcome the instinct to pin the trigger.
Anyway, food for thought and am really curious to hear your thoughts. There have been some good discussion on pistol forum about this topic as well and I am always very appreciative of what instructors think about the topic. Thanks for reading!
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC Thanks for the reply. Can I play devil's advocate for a moment? In my experience, it's a poor trigger PRESS aka trigger control that can cause shots to miss and not the reset. Can trigger reset ever influence where the bullet goes? I don't think so because the bullet will be out of the barrel before even the fastest human on the planet could react to it. So a good press on any pistol is the key.
All that said, why then even introduce pinning the trigger? Once you start to go fast in something like a bill drill can a shooter perceive exactly where they reset to? Probably not. For instance on a Glock, there is no way you're going to be able to shoot fast and hear or feel the reset after each shot. But now you have to learn to overcome the instinct to pin the trigger.
Anyway, food for thought and am really curious to hear your thoughts. There have been some good discussion on pistol forum about this topic as well and I am always very appreciative of what instructors think about the topic. Thanks for reading!
Got it. Thanks
Love that 226. It's just sexy
I put a Short Reset Trigger on my West German Sig P226 and I love it!
Right on. I’ve done this for my Sigg pistols and find it to be a huge improvement.
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did not shorten the DA did it.
Do u prefer the da on a hk or sig better. Great vid
Depends on the specific gun...And how the gun fits your hands. The grip frame with affect finger placement on the trigger based on the size of someones hands. The old grips on the P226 were a struggle for me. The new E2 grips make all the difference. I prefer striker fired guns... Glocks and SW M&Ps specifically as that is where I have spent my training time. But the specific handgun brand or action type is largely irrelevant, hits on target count!