Board Wipe Tier List for Commander | Which Board Wipes are the Best?
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- We're ranking the most played board wipes in the format, tier-list style! Which wrath effects will make it to the coveted "S" tier and which ones are stuck in the "Poop" tier? You have to watch to find out!
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Farewell is easily an S tier board wipe. The fact of having the choice of any number of the 4 options is what pushes it there
I love farewell! I think beezy is crazy comparing it to austere command
@@NitpickingNerds EXACTLY! It’s nothing like austere command! Four choices AND exile for the same price! It’s no contest!
YEP.
Each of the four things it hits are relevant, and widely enough relevant that at least one is always going to be nice to have.
And the ability to tailor it to as many as you want is just amazing.
Add to that it sends things to exile, this is an S tier board wipe
@@siobhangraham7280 factor in that it is 6 mana
@@mayonnaiseablaze9745 Yeah I know the cost. That doesn't make it bad - the best board wipe around is 7 CMC.
There's a lot of rocks in EDH that really smooth out mana, and make 6 CMC not a big deal
I personally really like In Garruk's Wake. It's one-sided but still feels fair in low power levels because of the high mana cost, and money-wise it's affordable with my very limited disposable income.
It’s cool in low power
OIC....
I like to cast it for 2 mana with titans nest and giggle as my friends scoop their cards
9 mana is just too much in our opinion. I never play that card personally
Way too much mana
I think Verdict is underrated by you guys because, yes any spell can be countered. But specifically in EDH, board wipes are pretty much the premier target for counterspells, especially for the player in the lead. A board wipe being uncounterable comes up a lot more often because more players would want those kinds of cards countered.
Well a boardwipe can actually benefitor hurt more then 1 player, a targeted removal is against one player, I think that's also a reason why you don't see targeted removal get countered that often. Because not everyone cares.
Supreme Verdict's niche is if the deck with counterspells is somehow running away with creatures, or a control player is out to get you killed. Most of the time when a control player is at the table unless they need one of their creatures for a future combo is more then happy to let a boardwipe resolve instead of countering it.
Highly doubt the deck playing counterspells is going to have a board state thats better than someone else. Maybe Kykar (the bird that makes tokens on spell cast) would counter a board wile, but really, what other popular deck has an abundance of creatures and counterspells
We rated the card at B which I think is fair considering it is pretty standard in that it is 4 mana destroy all creatures:
Missed the mark. Supreme Verdict wins as many games as Cyc Rift because it's uncounterable.
Toxic Deluge, Cyclonic Rift, Blasphemous Act, those will always be the top 3 in Commander
Now to add Vanquish the Hoard to that list, an arguably better B-Act.
@@ReoRayearth27 I think B-Act has more options to be one sided. Teferi's, Heroic intervention, and Akroma's Will stop both of them, but you can play around with stuff like vigor, overwhelming stampede, craterhoof, or similar effects to make it more of a one sided board wipe where as VTH is just destroy.
Just wait untill they print a boardwipe that also lets you tutor for something and gains you 20 life for 3 mana. On instant speed ofcourse.
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Cyclonic, isn't that good, it's more often then not just a win more card.
I really missed Hour of Revelation. A 3 mana destroy all boardwipe seems very good.
Hour of rev is great tbh
It is great especial in control list!
agree!! this card is so insane, cheap, and very underplayed IMO
Imho, the Hour is Strange, because it’s hard to play around it.
Wrath’s are really good, then they are in some way asymmetrical, its not a good idea to waste a turn, solving the board problem. Just to allow your opponents to rebuild first.
For example, Creature-Wrath’s are good, when your board is not that-affected by them (if your commander is prismatic bridge, theros gods, planeswalkers etc), while your opponent board is.
I’d personally run Hour in some heavy-Landfall list’s, simply because it doesn’t harm my mana, while destroying opponents mana rocks and dorks.
But i don’t really see any other place to run it
Hour of Revelation is better than a lot of the board wipes on this list... 3 mana only almost guarantees you're the first one out of the gates or you can plan ahead and respond to it to make it one sided... I think they are trolling a bit with these lists by missing cards on purpose lol.
Living Death, Evacuation, and Great Aurora were a few notable cards missing from this that Id be curious on your rankings. Notably because I play Great Aurora in my lands deck because of a video where you guys talked about it. Also I know you guys loooove living death and so do I, it always overperforms whenever I cast it
Yeah. 100% agree that Living Death and Evacuation should have been on here.
I don't really see The Great Aurora as a board wipe though
Living death is amazing! Being a wincon and a boardwipe
Cleansing nova’s niche is now creature-heavy decks with green and white that don’t rely on many artifacts/enchantments. I’ve got it in my Kyler deck right now and I think that’s it. I’ve probably chosen the second mode half the time there.
Agreed! I play a lot of Selesnya and Bant and I actually think it's very powerful in those decks. Basically any deck I'd put Collector Ouphe in, I'd play Cleansing Nova.
Ngl, that still doesn’t sound super great. You’re already playing Farewell and Austere command?
@@emerson685 Stop the artifact nonsense! Collector Ouphe/Null Rod 2024
@@joe.5103 yes to austere command, no to farewell. I’ve got vanquish the horde in there as the only other wipe. Farewell I just put in Osgir because it has 0 enchantments and I can sac my board before exiling everyone else’s, but not sure I want it anywhere else. The best thing it does is exiling graveyards but I usually want to keep my own graveyard, so I’ll stick to hating graveyards other ways that can pinpoint or just hit opponents
@@mfitkin well I think osgir is a bad place for it as you play a lot of artifacts
As an Avacyn player I love how basically every set adds a white boardwipe
I'm just waiting for a white "unable to be exiled" card to stop all these new exiling boardwipes like indestructible used to help with.
@@Halsfield Teferi’s Protection
@@Halsfield I'll still rift it
I feel like by invitation only is one of those underrated board wipes because of the way it's interpreted. When you cast the card most people try to use that time on the stack to sacrifice their field to help their boardstate afterwards. But that means you don't even need to boardwipe anymore cause your opponents did it for you! Then you can sit back and relax, and watch the table get salty as you choose zero and keep your board.
Never thought about that - this is straight up genius
I have a fondness for Necromantic Selection. It’s very expensive but you can save your best creature (or your opponent’s best creature) and use it to get a head start on rebuilding. Saving a commander that costs four mana (which would actually cost six if it gets CZd) suddenly makes the res effect really useful.
It's such a great card. Wiping the board and stealing your opponent's commander feels so good.
As someone returning to MTG after 25 years... this list made me so happy... I love board wipes.
And I gotta disagree. Meathook Massacre is amazing. It's an average at best boardwipe, but it's an enchantment. You can play it and not kill anything and it will still do a lot.
But it cost a lot - you need to spend like 7-10 mana to board-wipe all.
Say that again, but slowly...its an average...at best...boardwipe...
Its a boardwipe review...
as a boardwipe its not the best, as a blood artist effect, it's pretty good. both together makes it a bit nuts. i'm surprised they didnt put massacre girl on the list. fantastic boardwipe imo
Yes, in Aristocrat style decks where you're sacrificing alot anyways. Which was their point: in decks that can take advantage of everything it offers to the fullest (like Aristocrat decks) it's probably A-S tier. But they're looking at its inclusion as a boardwipe in ANY deck that can run it, which drags it down a bit since there'll be decks that can't use it to the fullest and it becomes a high costed boardwipe, and so they gave it a B (which is still very good, I mean look at the company it's keeping there).
And note they still rated it the best X mana cost boardwipe.
It’s expensive. And, if players can’t stop most would scoop unless player can bounce back.
Planar collapse has been a sleeper hit for me. So good with enchantment synergies, makes your opponents plays really awkward if you can get it down early enough so it doesn't trigger, love it
It's also hilarious with hall
Love planar collapse especially with graveyard retrieval
So, I was watching your Tier list of EDH staples like an hour ago, and I left a comment saying, "we need more tier lists", and my wish was your command. Thank you for reading my future mind when you recorded this segment 🙌 🙏
Meathook is fine because you can tune its power down if you want to keep your stuff alive at that moment or just kill specific things like weak token spam, and even without the wipe for just two mana you are getting an enchantment that functions similarly to other two mana aristocrat pieces like Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat. Still a solid card for the mana cost if you don't care how expensive it is. I think of it less as a boardwipe centric card and more of an aristocrat piece with optional boardwipe capacity when needed or wanted. Plan to get one for my Beledros deck, it would just add to the fun (and because he can turn its power up in a pinch, so it goes well with him).
I think Meathook Massacre is honestly deserving of it's price tag, as it's just as good as toxic deluge if not better in black decks, where producing 40 black mana in a turn is pretty common at higher power level tables. And it has the aristocrat effect stapled on making it even better. If you don't have the life to pay then toxic deluge is a dead card in hand, but meathook will never be a dead card as long as one builds their deck correctly with plenty of mana efficiency. I run meathook in my Meren and every single time I've cast meathook, it's won the game. Every. Single. Time. It's such a good card. It got it's price tag not just because of standard, but because it's an incredibly powerful board wipe that sticks around and provides an extra effect. It's so good. 😆
A little surprised that the list wasn't broken down more. Cards like Duneblast, Doomsday, Blood on the Snow, Hour of Revelation, In Garruk's Wake, etc. I mean you included Fumigate.
Joe is 100% correct about Farewell being miles beyond better than Austere Command. I mean it's not even close. Besides the Exile, what makes it better is it does everything Austere Command can do, except better. Command only hits up to 2 things while Farewell hits up to 4 types and its your choice in combination what to get rid of at the time. You could hit 1 thing or 3 things, or 4 things. The versatility is way beyond better than Command.
A note on Chandra’s ignition, it’s got crazy synergy with lifelink, deathtouch, curiosity effects, aegar the freezing flame, etc…
No love for Descend Upon the Sinful? Exile-board wipe and get a (chunky) body after if you have delirium.
I play All is Dust in my Eldrazi deck. But outside of that I would have a hard time finding a home for it.
I have a colorless deck built around ghirapur that likes all is dust.
It's a boss in tergrid
That is mono red enchantment removal.
It's pretty damn useful in all variants of the Grixis colours. You know, where good mass removal might be hard to find, especially against enchantments.
I play it on omnath locust of mana and kruphix god of horizons. It's great in both
I love resolving Ezuri's Predation while Vigor is out.
This is a win con in my Adrix and Nev, Twincasters deck- makes Ezuri’s Predation even better when you get double the tokens from A/N’s trigger, you can stack the triggers so that only the first half that resolve even have to fight, and then Vigor on top of it?! Please. Follow that up with an End Raze Forerunners and nobody is stopping you
Ezuri' Predation while Terror of the Peaks is out is also glorious
Or Garruk's Packleader. So much draw.
10 months later, just built my aristocrats deck with elas-il lot at the helm, and I can't find a the meathook massacre for under $60CAD and it's been banned in standard for almost as long as this video was made. It's such a good card for my deck but I don't want to pay that much for it when it shouldn't be that much. I also run about 6 board wipes as ways to close the game off my death triggers when I don't have sacrifice outlets.
Farewell is A+ to me- exile gets around indestructible and also has graveyard hate. Super friends? Choose all modes. Enchantments - All modes but enchantments. Creature deck and taxes got you down- choose all modes except creature.
Have won with this card a dozen times already
Farewell is A+/S - in my book.
I use Winds of Abandon, even though it's not that great. Essentially the fact that it exiles everything that's not yours, presumably you use it when you know you can win that turn.
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Meathook's price makes me sad. I'm really hoping that after it rotates out the price crashes so I can finally run it in my budget Teysa deck.
Its 100% tanking after it rotates out of standard, its price rn is because its one of the best black wipes they have atm. Im just gonna wait till then and instant buy.
@@spideysquestionablyusedcha5069 I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm curious how much standard really drives paper prices, since my understanding is standard is dead in paper. Is this being used in other formats maybe?
@@CodeIguana Maybe so yeah, but im not too sure myself. Meathook is a great card, but as they state, not a 50$ card. In commander, black has many better board wipes, so i'd play it for the enchantment effects really, and idk about other formats, given commander is the most popular by far. Its so perplexing.
do you have a decklist on teysa karlov to check out?
It's amazing in modern too, I have a Modern deck that uses a brutal combination of Scute Swarm and Meathook Massacre. I predict that the value will hold
All is dust is great in helping out mono colored decks as well. To deal with stuff they normally cant deal with.
I just don’t understand no one talks about hour of revelation I have had it in a deck for 3 years I have never cast it for 6 I have never
had it in my hand when I could not cast it for 3 it’s literally always 3 white pips destroy all non-land permanents. Mono white and 2 color I would highly recommend it.
hour of revelation is underrated
My favorite boardwipes are the ones you cast from the command zone. child of alara and nevinyrral are crazy good especially with command beacon effects 😈
TERMINUS is my personal favorite in Aminatou, Miracle make it so good at one mana to get rid of everything.
In before Vanquish the Horde S tier!
Edit: To answer Beezy on Farewell, the cards absolutely ridiculous. If you control the board its a tidal wave that just helps you win. Played a game with my pod with one of our members playing Coven Counters and they cast Farewell. Since they had the best board state by far in terms of big beefy creatures they wiped out all artifacts, enchantments and graveyards and just started throwing haymakers left and right and no one in the game could recover. Its a wipe that can easily become your win condition depending on how its played.
Blasphemous act is my favorite board wipe of all time, but I might be biased because I play Ill-Tempered Loner. Wasiest way to make a board wipe into a win-con, and a great deterrent to others at the table.
I'm here looking for good board wipes for nethroi. I get all my 0/0 etb with +1/+1 counters back anyways so why not destroy my stuff to destroy everything
You guys are right about Tragic Arrogance. I've been running it since magic origins, and I think I might've seen two whole other games since then where someone else used it
I have just started watching, but i imagine mutilate being a B =Buildaround wich is the best qualifier for it, cause you need a heavy black or mono black to have it good, regardless im hyped cause i just ordered black cards for a mono black Syr Konrad Edh to tune up a little bit
It is not ot the video
@@masterale10 I also play it in my Vito deck over Damnation. It's really good in mono black as it gets through Indestructible just like Toxic Deluge.
Mutilate is just as good as damnation most of the time (the 'cant be regenerated' doesnt come up too often), I'm also fan of Dead of Winter, I don't see anyone playing it but if youre willing to invest in snowlands, then it is essentially 3 mana destroy all creatures. Dead of winter is under a dollar, though the cost really comes from spending 1$ per snow covered swamp for your deck/ I play syr Konrad aswell, do you have a decklist I could take a look at?
@@pizzapm no, but i've been thinking of uploading my decks to moxfield so, this wknd ima start that, and comment the link over here
Joe:
More versatility puts Damn at an A
Also Joe:
Less versatility puts Farewell at an A
Kidding of course, but I agree with Beezy on this one. Farewell is not THAT much better than AC especially in white. Lots of decks in white care more about getting many little creatures right? I think in any deck like that I’d rather have AC. I think farewell is a great card, but I don’t agree that it is “head and shoulders” above AC unless your meta is heavy on graveyard recursion.
Thank you for the tier list videos! I love the discussion that you guys have and seeing those discussions continue on the discord.
it's just that it's exile from the get go, austere command wont hit the artifacts and enchantments , and never graveyards, IF you want to hit ALL creatures, dodging dies triggers extremely undervalued, not even giving the option to send your commander to the graveyard, extremely underrated, every deck runs Eternal witness right?
I play time wipe and my yorion deck and it’s GREAT there. I want a way to retrigger the ETB anyways so bouncing it to my hand, destroying everything, and eventually replaying it to flicker all of my artifacts and enchantments is awesome
You often stated that card “A” wasn’t quite as good as card “B” so you weren’t playing it. You also want at least 2, and probably 3, board wipes in all your decks, so there is room for all those other cards.
Edit: Not really a Board Wipe but an awesome one sided effect is Whelming Wave in a Sea Creatures deck. Empty board for one turn and everything has to be recast. It’s been a sweeeet card for me.
Hour of Revelation almost always gets cast for 3 mana and pulls a lot of weight, and I never see it get mentioned. I've cast it turn 4 to cripple my opponents setup and I've cast it turn 10 to save my butt, it always performs
As a white player I missed "Winds of Abandon" here - the white version of cyclonic rift which is overseen very often. Not that strong because it's sorcery-speed and you might give a huge amount of resources to your opponents, but in white you should be able to win the game emediatly when you force an empty board. Love that card!
I just noticed that this is the most agreeable both of y’all have been to each other, haha. I enjoyed the concessions and compromises :)
In the same vein as Earthquake, Magmaquake is actually a pretty good boardwipe. It is instant speed, can be one sided if all your creatures fly and kills off planeswakers as a little bonus.
Or win cod with infinite mana but then I realize you might die to
Guys, Winds of Abandon I'm telling you! Solid B card, and you didn't even rate it? Way better than Merciless Eviction.
I personally think its higher than B. That card has served me well in any deck that runs white.
@@randallstanaway7846 I say B because it’s not ideal situationally. When it’s good it’s S, if you have a board state and can take advantage. But if you need a reset and are behind on board you’re probably not helping yourself by ramping everyone else.
I really wish you guys mentioned Winds of Abandon, I feel like it is criminally underrated
What do you guys think of winds of abandon? I think it could be S tier if it didnt ramp your opponents so hard. Still pretty good if you can win on the next turn or so. Or if your opponents only play a few basics.
And did i miss toxic deluge? Pretty spicy in commander when you can easily pay a bunch of life , and then its a 3mana board wipe that cant be stopped by indestructible or protection from black.
I've done such a good job over the last 5 years of not being "that guy" when it comes to content videos. I cannot hold it in here...
Farewell is slam dunk S tier wipe and comparing it to Austere Command (a card that I LOVE!) is INSANITY!
Fun content and enjoyed the video though!
You left, "Last One Standing" off the list. 3 mana board wipe with a slight down side.
It’s so cool
One of the all star boardwipes
I run Merciless Eviction because my playgroup loves to run consistent mass indestructible, making normal board wipes difficult sometimes. Looking at you, Sliver Queen deck
Please change it for farewell, it’s literally better in every single way
@@elipetrou9308 lol. I absolutely will once I have a copy. I didn't open it out of the packs I got. Money's a bit tight at the moment though, so it will be a while before I buy singles again
@@pokemastericon fair enough, good luck
I would like an hour long Amber supercut.
Two big ones you guys missed were sunfall and White Sun's Twilight. Both wipe the board, and then leave you with an advantage.
I appreciate to see Farewell in A tier. it's exceptional.
This was a fun birthday video. Thanks guys 🤘
Toxic Deluge is easily one of my favorite cards in the game because it just feels so good to wipe the board for 3 mana. Blasphemous is obviously amazing and can cost less, but you can control deluge so much better.
As someone who plays mainly vampires (mardu) and zombies (dimir), I also happen to be super partial to meathook massacre. In both of those decks, it just multiplies the damage the opponent is already gonna take.
Yeah I'm losing 10 creatures, but with two of them being aristocrat drains and this, you're losing 30 life and I'm gaining 30. At least.
Tragic Arrogance is a house is so many decks, love it. I'm still pretty high on Austere Command, especially if I'm playing tokens. Good list boys.
Uhmmm. You guys missed some of my favorite wipes. Blood on the Snow, Doomskar, Masacre Girl, Terminus, Jokulhaups, Martial Coup, Kaya’s Wrath, Bontu’s Last Reckoning, Flood of Tears, Black Sun’s Zenith, Life’s Finale, Nevinyrral’s Disk, Oblivion Stone, Mutilate. So so many enough for a whole other video :)
No. Just no on the Jokulhaups.
@@noahcarroll4944 big agree
And Path of Peril
@@Dark-Pikachu1 Eh, I don't feel like Path of Peril is on the same level as Jokulhaups. One is an infuriating card, the other is a mediocre card
I feel like tragic arrogance is best in a meta where your opponent’s decks don’t have high card diversity. At least in my meta all my opponents only have one to two really powerful enchantments and artifacts in their decks. So when I cast this and I have to let them keep one still really good card.
Meat hook massacre has only found a home in one of my decks: The Grismold deck that two nerds told me to build. (It's really fun to play, thank you guys)
This video introduced some board wipes I didn't even know existed. I swear, every time I watch one of your videos I end up having to update my deck lists.
Hi there! I just saw your channel and have been binging all of your content, thank you for sharing all of this information. I am a huge fan!
One of the videos, I just saw was the tier list of tribes. I am wondering if you could do a tier list within those tribes? Like for zombies who would you go with?
Too low on All is Dust, IMO. That's an instant game winner for colorless decks.
Yea but it sucks everywhere else
@@elipetrou9308 tergrid... its devastating in tergrid
@@jaredhuckstep20 true, but again, still very niche
@@elipetrou9308 without a doubt...
@@elipetrou9308 Eh, it's runnable it literally every deck. It's not as niche as you think. At worst, it's a standard board wipe (unless you're facing a colorless deck). And in the right circumstance, it's an instant win. It's really good.
Nice work as always guys....and just in time for me to start brewing my Zangief deck full of wipes (and PWs)
I'm waiting for the video of just the cut footage of amber jumping onto desk and walking in a circle. Talk about top tier content
Ezuri's predation sounds like a fun card to add on my Grumgrully deck since it has some cards like Aether Charge and Warstorm Surge so it kinda turns into a win condition if there are enough creatures. Janky as hell but fun
Oh yeah that is just a wincon I love it!
I completely know the Cleave cost is outrageous but I love Path of Peril's design. I think Cleave Cost of 5 CMC would make it more appealing
I got back into Magic around Kaldheim. It's really interesting to me that Doomskar was talked about as a big deal because of foretell 1WW, but it doesn't even make it on the list.
It was more of a big deal for standart, and 60 card formats,
I personally love playing with Cataclysm. Its such a fun card and goes great in an Orzhov tergrid deck
Spectral Deluge is like the Toxic Deluge for Blue, sort of. Sure you don't pay life, but that's paid off by your Islands instead. Also, instead of killing the creature's like black would do, it's bounces them as Blue would normally do. If you can foretell it early like turn 1 Sol Ring then foretell or turn foretell. Then you've got a really good spell on hand at anytime. This should be a staple in every mono Blue deck.
Damn surprised you didn’t talk about living death. Easy S tier.
ezuris predation is sick, because its green, you can just ramp better and you need to build around it, like etb effects with creatures(garruks uprising e.g.), or giving tokens/creatures deathtouch and so on but in pure comparission its really expansive and "not that good" i play it in my aesi deck and it rocks.
i love your tierlists really improved some decks of mine.
Where would you put Winds of Abandon? I enjoy playing this card even though I think it's B tier.
I feel like Ezuri's Predation may be a bit underrated. That card in conjunction with Golden Sunrise (all creatures gain +1/+1 & Trample) and anything with Proliferate (to put more counters on the creatures that received +1/+1 counters), could potentially be a solid late-game finisher with no real side effects towards the casting player AND massive exponential damage.
The cost keeps it down, also ezuris predation is good when its not used as a board wipe and this is a board wipe tier list lol
Another cool thing about all is dust is that you can get rid of enchantments in colors that struggle with that like mono black or mono red
False prophet is a great creature based wipe. It doesn't fit in any of my white decks but i love how it dies and exiles creatures rather than destroy.
Earthquake effects that miss flyers are wildly good in flying matters decks, like how all is dust is awesome in heavy colorless decks
Favorite play with cyclonic rift was using its 2 mana to bounce my opponents porphyry that’s sneak attack after he committed about 5 cards to the board.
Beezy- “something’s gotta be poop” had me rolling
I want to mention hallowed burial here. In a meta with no tutors this basically exiles all creatures for 5cmc.
I just discovered promise of loyalty and believe it is a very strong board wipe for voltron style builds.
EDIT: I also play necrotic hex in my zombie tribal deck, just because of zombies :)
Four missed boardwipes: hour of revelation, winds of abandon, oblivion stone, and perilous vault.
Hour of revelation: 3 white mana, destroy all nonland permenants.
Winds of abandon: 4 generic and 2 white mana, exile all creatures you don't own.
Oblivion stone: 8 mana, destroy all nonland permenants
Perilous vault: 9 mana, exile all nonland permenants.
Red and black have so much trouble dealing with enchantments for both Nd artifacts with black. Rackdos decks should be running these to blow up / exile them.
Green needs effective board wipes? Oblivion stone, all is dust, ugin, and perilous vault.
Hour of Revelation is just bananas as a panic button that resets the board. And winds of abandon is an asymmetric creature wipe that can also be used as a single target exile for just 2 mana.
Gaze of granite tho
Tier lists are my favorite of your videos.
Chandra's ignition is amazing and i'm glad joe cherries talked it up. I run it in my Kalamax deck, and forking it on your turn insta wins. It's also great outside of that instance
The thing about Earthquake effects is that you can tutor them up with Spellseeker.
beezy's "oh god" at 14:38 kills me
Can't have 'em all in such a list, I understand. But in my Simic deck I really have been appreciating Oversimplify.
It's niche, but Urza's ruinous blast in sisay is quite fun
I enjoyed the video, however I would have liked for the card text to stay on the screen for longer, I tend to listen/watch these videos while doing other things, and I found myself jumping around a lot trying to find what card you guys were talking about at several points in the video, maybe when doing a tier list like this you could keep the card on the screen below the video of you guys so that it doesn't block the tier list, but still allows the listener to reread the card if they want to. just a small suggestion, keep up the good work guys
Just a quick note ive made a light paws decks and vanquish the hoard ends up being one sided 9/10 once light paws is suited up.
Totally off topic but was wondering if you ever thought about posting on the topic about how socially acceptable it is at the table to play with expensive cards. When you put down an expensive card like OG duals or a mana crypt is it flexing on a "rude" level. Does it cause the other players to resent another player?
Did i just missed Fire covenant and Decree? I think wildfire, obliterate and jokulhaups also deserve some love..
Land Destruction is frowned upon, so they're not gonna encourage that. I love Obliterate though.
I agree mostly with the list, but a sore-thumb mistake is definitely Austere Command. Joe is right to be high on Farewell, but it's addled his evaluation of Austere Command, which is still more or less on par with it, maybe a handful of spots lower. It should be in A tier or at least top of B tier, even if youre not in a meta that runs a ton of targets. These last two are less egregious because I get that they are meta dependent. I'm one of the people with an artifact/enchantment-heavy meta, and Cleansing Nova is definitely B tier for me. Ruinous Ultimatum has been bad every time I've drawn it becasue its uncastable if you're running a budget manabase. It would be a solid D for me.
I think tragic arrogance is low financially because it allows your opponents to keep some of their cards which allows them to rebuild faster
1 month old video I know, but it seems like you forgot Planar Collapse. While someone can potentially disenchant it before your next upkeep, it's still a 2 mana creature killing board wipe. It also takes hardly any time at all for there to be 4 creatures in play in commander.
Tragic Arrogance has been a well kept secret of mine for years. I'm never sad to draw it and it's always backbreaking for my opponents. It's always one-sided in my favor in my experience.
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I think you're underrating By invitation only. As soon as your deck can reliably have more creatures on board than the median, it's awesome. In white you often do.
Supreme verdict too. You usually keep counters for protecting your commander and/or your board. So you're waiting for it and oh! You can't counter it! For me it's an easy A. Just good.
Time wipe is poop to me.
Where would you put hour of revelation?
Yesss!! Tier lists are always amazing!
What grade would Winds of Rath get? I know it’s specific to enchantress decks but I think it deserves a shoutout
If you're in mono-White, Ravnica at War can be a great boardwipe as well.
Have you guys made any dedicated videos on aggro commanders? I would appreciate a video specificity building around some aggro commanders, but a theory based one is also cool.
Blasphemous Act is great in a Stuffy Doll deck too.
Usually I agree with Beezy's takes, but Farewell is SSS tier or F tier. SSS if you're on a pillow fort style deck and F tier if you're a creature based deck
All is dust gets around indestructible, hexproof, and shroud. I used to only play colorless artifacts but now i play mono blue but still mostly colorless deck and I love it. Easy A tier assuming its one sided