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Scotty I have a mitsubishi s c x. 2017. Only done 50:000. Miles. Shout i have auto service done? Thanks from abel. From Australia. Keep up the good work. 😉🙂
I am taxi driver for a 100+ car fleet company in a Canadian extreme East coast climate. Our cars idle A LOT. I drive a Rav4 that runs 21 hours a day . We have lots of Corollas and Camrys that literally never shut off, they run 24/7. The Toyotas easily get 300-400,000 Kms or more and still run great, but usually at that point a taxi car has lots of wear in other areas , especially the interiors and frames ,but the engines live on.
They say most engine wear occurs at start up so if they don't shut off this is less of a problem. I have to disagree with Scotty this time because once oil reaches full temperature then water will evaporate not build up and the same with oil dilution from gasoline. I would have thought the bigger issues would be carbon build up and heat soak in plastic and electrical components in summer.
I Have a 85 suburban that I basically live on the road with during summer months. Sometimes for a/c I have to idle for 5 hours some nights. I’m at 344k original engine too. I just pop the hood and let it sit on the latch that way there’s a little more air flow. But I change the oil once a month anyways on it because I run it so much. But yeah no issues at all
I live in MN and it gets to -20+ in the winter at times, and I've had vehicles seize up after not being run or driven for a few days, so when it's extremely cold I've learned it's best to warm up the car up daily, even if you're not driving, to help keep everything from seizing up, especially older vehicles. I drive a 2001 Highlander with over 260000 and I idle it warm often and it's running smooth, I change the oil 5000-6000 miles, never noticed any problems from idling.
I dont care what any it says, warming an engine up on a cold morning will not hurt anything. I change my oil pretty frequently anyway so I'm never worried about bad old oil
1:00 we bought a former rental 2019 Toyota Camry, had it inspected, mechanic said it was fine. I agree, it is a great car. Things to remember, because the rental company isn't keeping the car around long it will have low mileage tires and a cheap battery. The tires and the battery went bad with in the first two years, so expect that as part of the cost.
It's soon gonna have problems that you can't fix, you'll see why the police sell their old dodge chargers are cheap cuz the majority of its lifetime were just idling and they barely do maintenance. Sell it before it gets old and showing issues, double it and give it to the next person
I’ve idled my cars for over 40 years. I’ve never had any problems when idling my cars. Winter or summer. Actually it has helped me a few times by showing me a problem while I’m still at home. I have auto start in 3 vehicles and I will not drive a cold car in winter , it must be warm inside.
I just change my oil every 5k miles and drive it like I drive it. Never think about any of this and never had an issue over it for 40+ years of driving. I sit in stop and go traffic on the interstate nearly everyday. Not much of a choice and I doubt 10000 people are gonna move out of my way because my car is idling.
You are spot-on. Been driving for 55 years, never an issue from extensive idling in all kinds of traffic conditions. Just change the oil regularly and there won't be any problems.
I had to stop listening when he explained the water and vapor from the tailpipe. That is mostly from hot exhaust gases passing through a cold metal exhaust system, it's called condensation. You never see it on a warm day.🤦
Thanks again for the video Scotty. 2010 Honda civic in Minnesota. I start it up, let it warm up as I'm clearing of the snow. Sometimes I put on the bright headlights, to get them warm and clearing them off is a good thing. I use the type of windshield washer fluid that will not freeze, and be able to melt ice. Good to legally drive in about 10 minutes.
I picked up a '86 GMC Rally STX 350V-8 on it's 3rd transmission, Engine - original - burned a quart every 800 miles, past owners missed some changes.... I changed the ATF every 30K, never missed a shift while I had it. I spoke to a transmission guy. He was rebuilding one... He said - back in the '90's... you change you fluid & filter every 30K, your transmission will last for hundreds of thousands of miles, don't, maybe 100K, maybe... I got lucky with a recent rebuild... but the engine was still :-( I finally gave it away for parts... Love your videos... (I drove that van about 3,000 miles a week for about 1 1/2 years, changed the engine oil every week, & trans about every other month... too much driving.
I went out & bought a 2007 4Runner yesterday! Been watching Scott for some months & I was sold on a 4Runner. I had to jump on the opportunity bc it has 132,000 miles. I’m glad I got mine.
They really do install extra fluid coolers and beefed-up cooling systems in general in (many) cop cars. They also have hour meters that they base their maintenance intervals on as opposed to simple odometers. That's due to the heavy idling duty cycle they are exposed to, it really does create a different wear environment.
Not sure about the Subaru comment - I think there were some issues but they’ve been corrected. Plus Subaru has among the most loyal drivers. My partner is one of them. Only issues she’s had on her two foresters is the brakes - they seem to go often and you can only get them from Subaru - no one in Canada has the parts.
Scotty, in between you and Cadogan in Australia you keep my automotive news up to date, thank you very much. As per the 1st topic, I drive an '01 Silverado, bought in '03. I always idle for several min
I have a Subaru Outback 2017 with 196,000 miles with only standard maintenance. My cost per mile is about 1/3 that of my F150 (510,000 miles) which the Subaru replaced. Probably 2/3 of mileage on both was highway. Routinely drive 500 miles a day when working. You need to take another look at Subaru...my transmission on the Subaru is problem free.
I let mine idle at start for like two minutes. It starts off hot, running like 1200 rpm. After idling for a minute or two, it drops to like 600 rpm. I do this every time I start the car.
I changed the trans fluid on my Corolla for the first time at 210k miles and it stopped the 3rd gear grinding. I was on the fence about changing it so late but I’m glad I did
Daughter sat in her car idleing for a couple hours now the engine will start run good for a minute or so then die. Changed the wires/plugs/egr cleanout and got a new map sensor to put in . Any other ideas what it can be? anyone. Good channel Scotty keep up the good work
I idle my 2020 Subaru WRX until the oil temperature starts to read @86 degrees, then drive normally until the car is warmed up. At 78K miles it doesn't burn any oil. I change the oil every 3-3.5K miles.
@@baskooij8500for those of us who drive smaller cars its just 4qts - or about $20 worth of ultra platinum oil. So changing it at 3 instead of 4 is only an extra $20 every 12k miles and you know youve done everything you can. I also get the black purolator (boss i think theyre called?) But only switch them every other change so it kinda makes up for it. Theyre supposedly good for 20k miles so 6-7k should be fine.
@@baskooij8500 I don't think so. It's a small turbo engine, changing the oil more frequently is cheap insurance to make it last. I do my own so my cost is about $40 using Penzoil Ultra Platinum and a good filter.
I have a jeep Wrangler with a 3.6 L penta star I use full synthetic with 1 quart of pure synthetic Lucas treatment and a premium filter. I change it every 3000 miles I have almost 190,000 and it’s still runs great. Change your motor oil more often and you’ll be fine.
I have the same and do the same. Only thing that’s given me trouble is the oil cooler. After I bought it, it lasted about a year before I found a puddle under it. Turned out to be the oil cooler. I did the most dumbest thing I could have done and tried to go as cheap as I could. So I bought a cheap black plastic replacement. About $60 bucks. I had to replace it less than 2 months later. That time I bought an all aluminum one. 6 months and going strong still. Mine is a 2012 Wrangler Sahara edition. ✌️👋
Youre lucky. Those newerjeeps arent made well. And theyre made by fiat...im sure somone replaced the plastic oil cooler in that by now ..a plastic oil cooler..its one of the things that always breaks..becsuse its pladtic and has hot oil run though it...thats an example of the quality..i do have a friend with a 15 grand cherokee, that hasnt had many issues, but most do. Se did have to replace the oil cooler though..but those pentastars are not known for being all that great..
Because of a job change a few years back, my highway vs city miles driven flipped from about 70/30 to 20/80. My oil started telling that story loud & clear, and I went from 5k mile oil changes to 4k [a non turbo engine!]. So yes: city driving and short tripping is definitely harder on your engines oil than road tripping to Yellowstone or whatever.
You stated in previous video that a car with a turbo charger needs to idle when cold to warm up the oil in the turbo before driving. Now we should not idle? Confused
I have been letting my car idle for 2 minutes before starting in the morning for 8 years and I have never had any problems. The engine runs like new. I change the oil every 6500 miles. I think that's the key, not to extend oil changes so long.
Subaru Outback head gaskets stopped being an issue 15 years ago, and according to a study by IC. Cars 22.3% of Outbacks make it to 250,000 miles. The same study said 41% of 4Runners make it to 250k.
Funny, that study missed my friends Subaru that blew a head gasket around 80,000 miles. He did his own study. He concluded it was a piece of crap. I studied something one time. I just forgot what it was.😂
I'd say it's a case by case study. Most cars are made better these days than ever before. How did your friend drive his Subaru? 0-100 at every green light like most suby owners I know or did they actually treat it decently? There is a big difference when it comes down to how you treat your vehicle...
@@jedblaylock8470 My friend is the most conservative driver I know. He bought the car new. His wife, (a bank manager for a large bank), drove it to work and back most of the time. She is even more careful in her driving. They bought it new, and it was serviced by the same dealership. They are both in their late 50’s and they are the only two that drove the car. They maintained the car meticulously. The dealership told them that it was a known problem. They kept it after it was fixed because the trade in value was so low.
Scotty, I have a 2016 Hyundai Tucson 2.0l GDI. I live in Canada so lots of snow. Whenever I’m driving around and my car losses traction, I hear a rapid clacking noise coming from the right side of car, is that just my traction control kicking in or do I need a new CV Axle? It seems lately you’re one of the only mechanics I can truly trust so that’s why I’m asking👍 Car has 68,000 miles on it
Scotty, I enjoy your channel. Keep it going. You mention Subaru using sealant glues instead of gaskets. Toyota does the same thing. I was considering purchasing a Highlander. The deal breaker is timing cover leaks. It's not a matter of if it will leak, but when it starts leaking it is very expensive to fix. The massive cover cannot be removed with the transverse V6 in the vehicle. The engine has to be removed in order to remove and re-seal the timing cover. I purchased a 4RUNNER instead. More capable vehicle, and much easier maintenance for a DIY mechanic.
Glad I saw this video. I went to look at a car 12 years old but only 65,000 miles. The interior was very worn and a strange bracket on dash. So a little bell went off. Someone put more miles on this car without going anywhere. Probably sat there with a running and no air flowing through the radiator making the engine hot and not cooling the trans.
I'm here seeking and loving your expert mechanical recommendations, not your political opinions. Keep up the great professional automotive work. Your, “No One is Telling You the Truth About Hyundai and Kia, So I Have to," is a perfect example of your great work.......thank you for this!!!
I like scotty a lot..ive been working on cars and trucks for 20 years, and i still learn from him...the only thing that i dont agree with , is his toyota views...yea, theyre good...but they have issues too..and my hondas,mazdas, and older fords have lasted just as long as the toyotas ive known of.. ( ive had hondas, mazda and fords with over 300k..my last honda had about 370k when it was rearended and my 5 spd civic SI i have now has a little over 300k .. ive never had a major issue with any of them.. and, newer toyotas have more issues
Scotty freely admits that Toyotas have problems. The thing he goes on about is that they are usually small problems and less wide spread then other auto manufacturers. As for Hondas, Scotty loves almost any Japanese car and Honda is his second favorite brand. Also he often speaks highly of older Fords, just not the newer Fords.
Same here, a good 10 minutes. Even warm weather I set a minute before I go. I think he meant excessive stop and go traffic for like an hour or more commute... like the LA freeway or something.
@@chrishynes6091 Perfectly fine to turn the key and go as long as you go easy on the gas until it warms up. I think it's actually better for the engine than idling to warm it up.
When a vehicle is idling, it's not moving, so the miles per gallon is zero. So the more you idle, the lower the average MPG. Just wait 10-15 seconds for the oil pressure to come up, then pull away and accelerate slowly for the first minute if it's winter. Even longer if it's really cold, like below zero. Once the temperature gauge (if you have one) starts moving, then you're ok.
Many it's different having owned several diesel fishing boats having Idle time allot never had a problem having heard the police chargers are bad motors due to idle time
The water and co2 coming out of your tailpipe is a byproduct of the catalytic converter. Two simple harmless gases that are produced. Interestingly, it’s the water vapour that is the far bigger greenhouse gas
We trade our Ford F-150 and our Explorer every 3-4 years, so we never go over 50k miles on them. That being said, I am meticulous about following all the service intervals. The local ford dealer almost refused to change my transmission fluid at 40k miles, so I took it to my mechanic that work on our older vehicles and had him do it for much less money.
Scotty did die but when he arrived at the Pearly Gates and started waiving his hands all around, Saint Peter sent him back to us, knowing more work still needs done.
Outside of oil longevity and fuel dilution issues the only damage I can think of would be to the camshaft. But that would be like police car idle times which would be very excessive.
I know this, I would without any question allow my engine to idle the whole time I'm sitting at a light or waiting for a train than have that stop/start engaged.
@@ThomasKing1993323 years old and only 140k miles? Are you sure you got that right? 140 k miles is nothing. It may be a lot for the GM/ford/chrysler junk, but not for most other cars.
I have a unicorn. 2000 Ford Windstar SEL with the 3.8 with 227,000 miles, it does not burn a drop of oil, 19.0 mpg. I know the exact history of this vehicle. It has had plugs and coil replaced, but it keeps cruising.
Hey Scotty, I have a 2006 jeep grandcherokee...with 358,000 miles all rusted out but starts and runs great. It is starting to have lifter chatter on a cold start but quiets down after it warms up. Should I switch to synthetic oil, I use high mile oil as of right now. My dad has a shop and he told me do not tare into the straight six and replace anything, it will only cause more problems. He just said keep good oil in it and put a big magnet on the oil pan and drive it till you can't...lol. Do you agree?
I'm in Northwest Alberta, Canada and in the winters when it drops sometimes to as low as -50C, You really have no choice but to idle for a few minutes after you start it up. (Assuming it starts in such cold 😅). I do have one simple question for you though Scotty: any thoughts on the 2024 Toyota Corolla Cross? Considering buying a new one in the near future. I have also considered the Subaru Crosstrek, main concern is I'm a bigger guy (6'2 250) and i often have problems finding cars in my price range I can fit in comfortably.
Hey Scotty! Will idling a car hurt it even if you open it up on the freeway from time to time? Back in the days of carburetors, I was told by my dad and uncle to "open it up" to remove the carbon build up!
I just turned in my work truck something like 5200 hours on the engine. 82k miles and about 3200 idle hours. F150 5.0. burned oil since day one. The last few months I had it after idle sometimes it would blow blue smoke when you took off. Oil changed with light sometimes 1000+ miles over it? I wouldn't have bought it especially from an auction. Many heavy off road miles....mud was caked into the skid plates all around the engine and transmission...all those plates do beyond protecting the bottom is acting like a school or shovel and holding the mud on top of them.
I was told that dodge vehicles are more susceptible to sludge when it idles a lot. I own a magnum and it’s the 2.7l worse to idle for long periods and engine oil changes detrimental at 3k faithfully
Scotty also says that turning off your engine and restarting also hurts it. I guess it is a compromise. If there is a train going by turn it off. If it is only about a minute or two, leave it on.
My car has a turbo. Turbos need warm oil and air. Idling for 1 to 2 minutes helps save the life of the expensive turbo. Bringing engine up to operating temperature will burn out any moisture that might be there.
I used to look forward to listening to most of your videos. You have become like a Fox-Fauxe news actor. Please keep it automobile that you know about.
What should I watch out for when looking at 2014 - 2019 Ford Taurus 🐂 SHO? I'm looking for a little more power than what I'm getting out of my 2013 Kia Optima EX GDI 2.4L. The Kia has 200k+ miles on it and I don't have any issues with.
Is Scotty still alive⁉️ can someone answer this question big fan of the channel watched for years on in one of the reasons i got into doing & sometimes fixing my cars myself & starting youtube
I idle my car for 1-5minutes depending how quickly the engine goes from fast idle to normal idle rpm. My old car automatic transmission hates fast idle from cold starts so I choose to break the law of limited idling time, taking the risk of getting ticket for idling. If I put the transmission in gear during fast idle my car will kickback with loud bam noise at same time and then car starts moving normally. The transmission fluid+filter have been replaced twice in 5 years.
If you idle your car a lot make sure you check your PCV valve and entire PCV system and make sure that you give it the ole “Italian tuneup” a couple times a week after the engine is at normal operating temperature. The water that condensed in the oil will be sucked into the engine via the PCV system and will actually steam clean the carbon from the combustion chamber. Just put 250k miles on a 3mz and there’s very little carbon in the combustion chamber.
I change my oil every 10,000 miles on my corolla and its 14 years old with 160,000 miles and it absolutely has no issues and i certainly dont do mainly highway driving. i do use Valvoline fully synthetic though so maybe if cheap oil is used 5,000 miles is the limit
Well I bought a Kia 2022 brand new the dealership messed the original engine up and they replaced it brand new. That was around 75k. I'm at 175677 right now, and i drive close to 10 k a month in it and I change oil every month, but I believed that I shouldn't or didn't need to replace transmission fluid and so I haven't so I am now worried that the lifetime of my transmission will suffer since I chose not to take care of it the same as the oil, brakes, tires etc.
Because we change oil based on the miles not the hours that engine is running so if you keep your engine idling for a long time and then plus the miles that’s gonna wear out oil way sooner
I have a 2013 F-150 with the 3.7L after I fill up my gas tank and go and start the truck it has a hard time starting but it only does it when I fill up after it doesn't do it anymore till I fill up again been doing it for a couple months
I spent a lot of time idling I’m driving a Nissan rogue I’ve got 120,000 I use synthetic fluid I change my oil every 7000 miles I have the cvt transmission I change the fluid every 30,000 along with both transmission filter yes it has 2 filters
i have a 07 altima at 217k miles i just got the death whine at most how long can i expect this transmission to go till it actually dies? and should i change the transmission oil?
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Have you ever seen a Suzuki CVT go over 300,000 kilometers
Many lease contracts require proper maintenance or they will make you purchase the vehicle/ take it away from you.
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I have a mitsubishi s c x.
2017. Only done 50:000. Miles.
Shout i have auto service done? Thanks from abel. From Australia. Keep up the good work. 😉🙂
I am taxi driver for a 100+ car fleet company in a Canadian extreme East coast climate. Our cars idle A LOT. I drive a Rav4 that runs 21 hours a day . We have lots of Corollas and Camrys that literally never shut off, they run 24/7. The Toyotas easily get 300-400,000 Kms or more and still run great, but usually at that point a taxi car has lots of wear in other areas , especially the interiors and frames ,but the engines live on.
They say most engine wear occurs at start up so if they don't shut off this is less of a problem. I have to disagree with Scotty this time because once oil reaches full temperature then water will evaporate not build up and the same with oil dilution from gasoline. I would have thought the bigger issues would be carbon build up and heat soak in plastic and electrical components in summer.
I Have a 85 suburban that I basically live on the road with during summer months. Sometimes for a/c I have to idle for 5 hours some nights. I’m at 344k original engine too. I just pop the hood and let it sit on the latch that way there’s a little more air flow. But I change the oil once a month anyways on it because I run it so much. But yeah no issues at all
@@zahimiibrahim3602Skotty is perpetuating the misconceptions :)
Taxi driver from Europe here
My 2018 Merc diesel is coming up to 500k kms
Had to replace 3 sesnors, everything else is stock
I idle about 4 hours a day for the past 7 years. Camry 2014 currently at 340k. Just change your oil.
i idle for 10 minutes in the morning it never caused any harm
now we inow who caused global warming
I definitely warm up my turbo boxer
At what millage do you change your oil?
@@mygiguser yea because Space X really cares avout global warming
I live in MN and it gets to -20+ in the winter at times, and I've had vehicles seize up after not being run or driven for a few days, so when it's extremely cold I've learned it's best to warm up the car up daily, even if you're not driving, to help keep everything from seizing up, especially older vehicles.
I drive a 2001 Highlander with over 260000 and I idle it warm often and it's running smooth, I change the oil 5000-6000 miles, never noticed any problems from idling.
I idle my vehicle too.... engine warm up in the mornings.
So far, 240K miles on my 13.5 year old Ford Ranger, is still running.
I do too, at least 10 minutes. Also my car used to be a rental, 6th gen. Ford Taurus 145k. ☮
The repair place always tries to upsale me into getting a oil fluid treatment for my car. Fluid buildup in my oil tank. I always tell them no.
I had a Bronco II for 350,000 miles, kind of like Rocky II. The clear coat on it deteriorated and it looked like hell, but was a fun little truck
I dont care what any it says, warming an engine up on a cold morning will not hurt anything. I change my oil pretty frequently anyway so I'm never worried about bad old oil
1:00 we bought a former rental 2019 Toyota Camry, had it inspected, mechanic said it was fine. I agree, it is a great car. Things to remember, because the rental company isn't keeping the car around long it will have low mileage tires and a cheap battery. The tires and the battery went bad with in the first two years, so expect that as part of the cost.
I’d be afraid of buying a rental, I drive those things like they’re stolen.
@7:46: "Irregardless...." My exwife's dad used to use that word. Thanks for using it, it brought many fond memories of him back. May he rest in peace.
My car equipped with remote start,i start my car ,and let it idle every day.Never have problems
It's soon gonna have problems that you can't fix, you'll see why the police sell their old dodge chargers are cheap cuz the majority of its lifetime were just idling and they barely do maintenance.
Sell it before it gets old and showing issues, double it and give it to the next person
Just change the engine oil on time.
Scotty, you're a real pip. I love how you talk with your hands.
Scotty is a Pentecostal Church Pastor on his day off...
This channel is absolutely the best source of information. Thank you, Scotty.
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I’ve idled my cars for over 40 years. I’ve never had any problems when idling my cars. Winter or summer. Actually it has helped me a few times by showing me a problem while I’m still at home. I have auto start in 3 vehicles and I will not drive a cold car in winter , it must be warm inside.
Scotty is a legend. One of the original OG mechanics on youtube.
I just change my oil every 5k miles and drive it like I drive it. Never think about any of this and never had an issue over it for 40+ years of driving. I sit in stop and go traffic on the interstate nearly everyday. Not much of a choice and I doubt 10000 people are gonna move out of my way because my car is idling.
They might......
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Why officer.... My engine was idle n too much n Scotty would a disapproved!
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You are spot-on. Been driving for 55 years, never an issue from extensive idling in all kinds of traffic conditions. Just change the oil regularly and there won't be any problems.
I had to stop listening when he explained the water and vapor from the tailpipe. That is mostly from hot exhaust gases passing through a cold metal exhaust system, it's called condensation. You never see it on a warm day.🤦
@@rolandhouston3195 Correct.
Doesnt the frame age twice as fast at 70+ compared to 55 mph?
Thanks again for the video Scotty. 2010 Honda civic in Minnesota. I start it up, let it warm up as I'm clearing of the snow. Sometimes I put on the bright headlights, to get them warm and clearing them off is a good thing. I use the type of windshield washer fluid that will not freeze, and be able to melt ice. Good to legally drive in about 10 minutes.
I picked up a '86 GMC Rally STX 350V-8 on it's 3rd transmission, Engine - original - burned a quart every 800 miles, past owners missed some changes.... I changed the ATF every 30K, never missed a shift while I had it. I spoke to a transmission guy. He was rebuilding one... He said - back in the '90's... you change you fluid & filter every 30K, your transmission will last for hundreds of thousands of miles, don't, maybe 100K, maybe... I got lucky with a recent rebuild... but the engine was still :-( I finally gave it away for parts... Love your videos... (I drove that van about 3,000 miles a week for about 1 1/2 years, changed the engine oil every week, & trans about every other month... too much driving.
I went out & bought a 2007 4Runner yesterday! Been watching Scott for some months & I was sold on a 4Runner. I had to jump on the opportunity bc it has 132,000 miles. I’m glad I got mine.
What you end up paying for it? Is it a limited or sr5? V6 or v8?
Cops idle all day while eating donuts and no problems. I idle for about 6 hours a day for the past 12 years with no problems. Going on 370,00 miles
Cop cars are changed pretty regularly depending on where you are
Modern cop cars have special alternators, radiators, fans, stronger engines, etc. They are specially designed to idle for long periods of time.
Lmao cop cars are not that special dude wtf
They really do install extra fluid coolers and beefed-up cooling systems in general in (many) cop cars. They also have hour meters that they base their maintenance intervals on as opposed to simple odometers. That's due to the heavy idling duty cycle they are exposed to, it really does create a different wear environment.
You must live in your car if you let it idle 6 hours a day.
Not sure about the Subaru comment - I think there were some issues but they’ve been corrected. Plus Subaru has among the most loyal drivers. My partner is one of them. Only issues she’s had on her two foresters is the brakes - they seem to go often and you can only get them from Subaru - no one in Canada has the parts.
Scotty, in between you and Cadogan in Australia you keep my automotive news up to date, thank you very much. As per the 1st topic, I drive an '01 Silverado, bought in '03. I always idle for several min
I'm a fan of 'Stralia Cadogan
That's why stop-start is good for engine!
Absolutely correct about New York and California!
I have a Subaru Outback 2017 with 196,000 miles with only standard maintenance. My cost per mile is about 1/3 that of my F150 (510,000 miles) which the Subaru replaced. Probably 2/3 of mileage on both was highway. Routinely drive 500 miles a day when working. You need to take another look at Subaru...my transmission on the Subaru is problem free.
You're one of the few. If you check owner forums and consumer reports. You'll see lots of newer Subarus have the issues he's talking about.
I let mine idle at start for like two minutes. It starts off hot, running like 1200 rpm. After idling for a minute or two, it drops to like 600 rpm. I do this every time I start the car.
30-60 seconds is perfect just to let the oil pump get going and start to pump oil through the engine
Same with me. I think it’s best not to have a rabbit’s foot, when leaving to work or school in the mornings.
That's about what I do. I let it idle down to 800 RPM cold idle and it takes a quarter to half a mile to get to 600 RPM warm idle.
Idle on cold start is the best for longevity of engine
I changed the trans fluid on my Corolla for the first time at 210k miles and it stopped the 3rd gear grinding. I was on the fence about changing it so late but I’m glad I did
Daughter sat in her car idleing for a couple hours now the engine will start run good for a minute or so then die. Changed the wires/plugs/egr cleanout and got a new map sensor to put in . Any other ideas what it can be? anyone. Good channel Scotty keep up the good work
Weak fuel pump mass air flow senor could be a lot of things
I idle my 2020 Subaru WRX until the oil temperature starts to read @86 degrees, then drive normally until the car is warmed up.
At 78K miles it doesn't burn any oil. I change the oil every 3-3.5K miles.
Every 3.5k miles? Damn that's a lot
@@baskooij8500for those of us who drive smaller cars its just 4qts - or about $20 worth of ultra platinum oil. So changing it at 3 instead of 4 is only an extra $20 every 12k miles and you know youve done everything you can.
I also get the black purolator (boss i think theyre called?) But only switch them every other change so it kinda makes up for it. Theyre supposedly good for 20k miles so 6-7k should be fine.
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I don't think so. It's a small turbo engine, changing the oil more frequently is cheap insurance to make it last. I do my own so my cost is about $40 using Penzoil Ultra Platinum and a good filter.
@@groosbro1you use PENZOIL?!?’b
@@groosbro1 ah, I don't have any experience with smaller turbo engines. Makes sense those need more frequent oil changes to last longer.
A few winters in my car with the heater on, no issues idling. Check/change your oil
I have a jeep Wrangler with a 3.6 L penta star I use full synthetic with 1 quart of pure synthetic Lucas treatment and a premium filter. I change it every 3000 miles I have almost 190,000 and it’s still runs great. Change your motor oil more often and you’ll be fine.
I have the same and do the same. Only thing that’s given me trouble is the oil cooler. After I bought it, it lasted about a year before I found a puddle under it. Turned out to be the oil cooler. I did the most dumbest thing I could have done and tried to go as cheap as I could. So I bought a cheap black plastic replacement. About $60 bucks. I had to replace it less than 2 months later. That time I bought an all aluminum one. 6 months and going strong still. Mine is a 2012 Wrangler Sahara edition. ✌️👋
Youre lucky. Those newerjeeps arent made well. And theyre made by fiat...im sure somone replaced the plastic oil cooler in that by now ..a plastic oil cooler..its one of the things that always breaks..becsuse its pladtic and has hot oil run though it...thats an example of the quality..i do have a friend with a 15 grand cherokee, that hasnt had many issues, but most do. Se did have to replace the oil cooler though..but those pentastars are not known for being all that great..
So far so good other than the oil cooler. Of course I’ll probably be replacing the lower intake in the spring.
Because of a job change a few years back, my highway vs city miles driven flipped from about 70/30 to 20/80. My oil started telling that story loud & clear, and I went from 5k mile oil changes to 4k [a non turbo engine!]. So yes: city driving and short tripping is definitely harder on your engines oil than road tripping to Yellowstone or whatever.
You stated in previous video that a car with a turbo charger needs to idle when cold to warm up the oil in the turbo before driving. Now we should not idle? Confused
I have been letting my car idle for 2 minutes before starting in the morning for 8 years and I have never had any problems. The engine runs like new. I change the oil every 6500 miles. I think that's the key, not to extend oil changes so long.
2 or 20?
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8:20 My WAHzoo has had it here in NY. Tax and spend politicians means everything is “free”, except for me.... and it’s obvious as to why.
Subaru Outback head gaskets stopped being an issue 15 years ago, and according to a study by IC. Cars 22.3% of Outbacks make it to 250,000 miles. The same study said 41% of 4Runners make it to 250k.
Funny, that study missed my friends Subaru that blew a head gasket around 80,000 miles. He did his own study. He concluded it was a piece of crap. I studied something one time. I just forgot what it was.😂
I'd say it's a case by case study. Most cars are made better these days than ever before. How did your friend drive his Subaru? 0-100 at every green light like most suby owners I know or did they actually treat it decently? There is a big difference when it comes down to how you treat your vehicle...
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My friend is the most conservative driver I know. He bought the car new. His wife, (a bank manager for a large bank), drove it to work and back most of the time. She is even more careful in her driving. They bought it new, and it was serviced by the same dealership. They are both in their late 50’s and they are the only two that drove the car. They maintained the car meticulously. The dealership told them that it was a known problem. They kept it after it was fixed because the trade in value was so low.
@@jedblaylock8470 new cars are made better than ever before? Where in the world did you get that information that's definitely not true!!
Scotty, I have a 2016 Hyundai Tucson 2.0l GDI. I live in Canada so lots of snow. Whenever I’m driving around and my car losses traction, I hear a rapid clacking noise coming from the right side of car, is that just my traction control kicking in or do I need a new CV Axle?
It seems lately you’re one of the only mechanics I can truly trust so that’s why I’m asking👍 Car has 68,000 miles on it
Scotty, I enjoy your channel. Keep it going.
You mention Subaru using sealant glues instead of gaskets. Toyota does the same thing. I was considering purchasing a Highlander. The deal breaker is timing cover leaks. It's not a matter of if it will leak, but when it starts leaking it is very expensive to fix. The massive cover cannot be removed with the transverse V6 in the vehicle. The engine has to be removed in order to remove and re-seal the timing cover.
I purchased a 4RUNNER instead. More capable vehicle, and much easier maintenance for a DIY mechanic.
Glad I saw this video. I went to look at a car 12 years old but only 65,000 miles. The interior was very worn and a strange bracket on dash. So a little bell went off. Someone put more miles on this car without going anywhere. Probably sat there with a running and no air flowing through the radiator making the engine hot and not cooling the trans.
If it has electric fans, it gets the proper airflow through the radiator to keep stuff cool
The company van i drive for work idles probably 8 to 10 hours a day lol 465000 miles 2011 Toyota sienna still drives good most of the time that is lol
Just do what Scotty says. He is the BEST in this world. ❤❤❤
There’s definitely a reason this guy has 6+ million subs. Wish he was my mechanic.
I'm here seeking and loving your expert mechanical recommendations, not your political opinions. Keep up the great professional automotive work. Your, “No One is Telling You the Truth About Hyundai and Kia, So I Have to," is a perfect example of your great work.......thank you for this!!!
Idling ... fascinating Scotty.
Modern Hemis def grind up the top end idling too much. And they might anyway.
Low oil pressure at idle?
I like scotty a lot..ive been working on cars and trucks for 20 years, and i still learn from him...the only thing that i dont agree with , is his toyota views...yea, theyre good...but they have issues too..and my hondas,mazdas, and older fords have lasted just as long as the toyotas ive known of.. ( ive had hondas, mazda and fords with over 300k..my last honda had about 370k when it was rearended and my 5 spd civic SI i have now has a little over 300k .. ive never had a major issue with any of them.. and, newer toyotas have more issues
Scotty freely admits that Toyotas have problems. The thing he goes on about is that they are usually small problems and less wide spread then other auto manufacturers. As for Hondas, Scotty loves almost any Japanese car and Honda is his second favorite brand. Also he often speaks highly of older Fords, just not the newer Fords.
Our Ford needed 2 engines and 3 trannies. Many other repairs. No Toyota comes close to that.
Toyota is the best because of their consistency. Most years and models are great. And many are legendary.
Scotty, if its 17° degrees outside like this morning, its warming up..
Same here, a good 10 minutes. Even warm weather I set a minute before I go. I think he meant excessive stop and go traffic for like an hour or more commute... like the LA freeway or something.
Absolutely, I've never heard of turning the key and going 😅
@@RoninJones-lh4uh I know 3 people at work that do. Hot or freezing..turns the key and drives off.
Hahaha we were 21 degrees.. but for some weird reason it feels cold wonder why... 😂
@@chrishynes6091 Perfectly fine to turn the key and go as long as you go easy on the gas until it warms up. I think it's actually better for the engine than idling to warm it up.
No idling . . . Don't even start it for that matter . . . Just get a tow truck to drag you around it will make your car last longer.
When a vehicle is idling, it's not moving, so the miles per gallon is zero. So the more you idle, the lower the average MPG. Just wait 10-15 seconds for the oil pressure to come up, then pull away and accelerate slowly for the first minute if it's winter. Even longer if it's really cold, like below zero. Once the temperature gauge (if you have one) starts moving, then you're ok.
My 2008 Corolla that was previously a rental has been a great car
Scotty is not only a mechanic, he is also a consumer lawyer.
Scotty for president
We've ALWAYS warmed up our cars, and we will CONTINUE to warm up our cars
Many it's different having owned several diesel fishing boats having Idle time allot never had a problem having heard the police chargers are bad motors due to idle time
I have a Honda Civic Ex hope I have a good car Scotty need more information about these kind of cars
Good advise about the lawyer especially talking about not paying. Didn’t mention a mechanic’s lien which would necessitate a lawyer.
Adirondack Mountains. are in NEW YORK STATE !
I live here in HADLEY 😀
The water and co2 coming out of your tailpipe is a byproduct of the catalytic converter. Two simple harmless gases that are produced. Interestingly, it’s the water vapour that is the far bigger greenhouse gas
my outback idles everyday for about 10 hours, subaru outback 07... its at 307000k and drives great no oil leaks yet
In the wintertime you need at least 30 seconds of warmup time before you drive off
We trade our Ford F-150 and our Explorer every 3-4 years, so we never go over 50k miles on them. That being said, I am meticulous about following all the service intervals. The local ford dealer almost refused to change my transmission fluid at 40k miles, so I took it to my mechanic that work on our older vehicles and had him do it for much less money.
Idling my Ranger for 24 years. No problem. Change my synthetic oil every two years. No problem.
I idolize my car 24/7. Still runs great.
😂😂😂😂
Scotty, theres a FB post that u died. I'm glad u r still very much alive🎉. Love yr videos and i wish u good health! 👍
Scotty did die but when he arrived at the Pearly Gates and started waiving his hands all around, Saint Peter sent him back to us, knowing more work still needs done.
Outside of oil longevity and fuel dilution issues the only damage I can think of would be to the camshaft.
But that would be like police car idle times which would be very excessive.
I know this, I would without any question allow my engine to idle the whole time I'm sitting at a light or waiting for a train than have that stop/start engaged.
6:38 the odometer died at 182000km and 192000km on my last 2 cars. Around 20 years old the odometer takes a flying leap into the abyss.
My car idles for at least 2 - 3 hours a day. Never had any issues.
The damage isn’t going to happen overnight. It takes years to see the damage.
@@Michael-yi4mcone of my cars is 23 years old and currently has 140k miles on it. Still going strong.
@@ThomasKing19933 Consider yourself lucky... but I've seen cars do 600k miles... doubt your will be able to go as long. Enjoy it while it lasts 😉
@@MrRoko91 Yep, we'll see. Thank you🙃
@@ThomasKing1993323 years old and only 140k miles? Are you sure you got that right? 140 k miles is nothing. It may be a lot for the GM/ford/chrysler junk, but not for most other cars.
I have a unicorn. 2000 Ford Windstar SEL with the 3.8 with 227,000 miles, it does not burn a drop of oil, 19.0 mpg. I know the exact history of this vehicle. It has had plugs and coil replaced, but it keeps cruising.
Thx for the Info on Suburus I was thinking of buying one but now kaybe not.
I don’t understand the Scotty hate… like they say, if u have haters ur doing smthg right oui!? Quirky? yes! Car savant?? yes 2!! 😎🤩
Hey Scotty, I have a 2006 jeep grandcherokee...with 358,000 miles all rusted out but starts and runs great. It is starting to have lifter chatter on a cold start but quiets down after it warms up. Should I switch to synthetic oil, I use high mile oil as of right now. My dad has a shop and he told me do not tare into the straight six and replace anything, it will only cause more problems. He just said keep good oil in it and put a big magnet on the oil pan and drive it till you can't...lol. Do you agree?
Put a quart of Lucas Oil Stabilizer in it, with every oil change.
I'm in Northwest Alberta, Canada and in the winters when it drops sometimes to as low as -50C, You really have no choice but to idle for a few minutes after you start it up. (Assuming it starts in such cold 😅).
I do have one simple question for you though Scotty: any thoughts on the 2024 Toyota Corolla Cross? Considering buying a new one in the near future. I have also considered the Subaru Crosstrek, main concern is I'm a bigger guy (6'2 250) and i often have problems finding cars in my price range I can fit in comfortably.
Scotty, the Tesla plant in Freemont is still active.
Great review Scotty.
Hey Scotty! Will idling a car hurt it even if you open it up on the freeway from time to time? Back in the days of carburetors, I was told by my dad and uncle to "open it up" to remove the carbon build up!
I used my Toyota Corolla in the oil and gas field! I used ac and heaters for hours
I have a Subaru Forester 2017. My CVT works fine. Mileage? 287,000. Your move slick.
2016 outback with cvt, changed tranny at 95k miles. Even though I bought it used in 2019, Subaru extended warranty covered it 100%.
I just turned in my work truck something like 5200 hours on the engine. 82k miles and about 3200 idle hours. F150 5.0. burned oil since day one. The last few months I had it after idle sometimes it would blow blue smoke when you took off. Oil changed with light sometimes 1000+ miles over it? I wouldn't have bought it especially from an auction. Many heavy off road miles....mud was caked into the skid plates all around the engine and transmission...all those plates do beyond protecting the bottom is acting like a school or shovel and holding the mud on top of them.
I was told that dodge vehicles are more susceptible to sludge when it idles a lot. I own a magnum and it’s the 2.7l worse to idle for long periods and engine oil changes detrimental at 3k faithfully
Clarksville, TN!? How do I get in contact with you!?
Scotty also says that turning off your engine and restarting also hurts it. I guess it is a compromise. If there is a train going by turn it off. If it is only about a minute or two, leave it on.
What about coasting in idle? Is it still bad for the engine?
My car has a turbo. Turbos need warm oil and air. Idling for 1 to 2 minutes helps save the life of the expensive turbo. Bringing engine up to operating temperature will burn out any moisture that might be there.
I used to look forward to listening to most of your videos. You have become like a Fox-Fauxe news actor. Please keep it automobile that you know about.
What should I watch out for when looking at 2014 - 2019 Ford Taurus 🐂 SHO? I'm looking for a little more power than what I'm getting out of my 2013 Kia Optima EX GDI 2.4L. The Kia has 200k+ miles on it and I don't have any issues with.
Is Scotty still alive⁉️ can someone answer this question big fan of the channel watched for years on in one of the reasons i got into doing & sometimes fixing my cars myself & starting youtube
Yes he is still alive .
@@johnyoung9874 appreciate it 🙏🏽
@@MWtube_ You are welcome .
Most of that water that comes out of the tailpipe is condensation from hot exaust running through a cold metal exhaust system
A bad ignition coil may result in engine knock?
Scotty you the man!
I idle my car for 1-5minutes depending how quickly the engine goes from fast idle to normal idle rpm. My old car automatic transmission hates fast idle from cold starts so I choose to break the law of limited idling time, taking the risk of getting ticket for idling. If I put the transmission in gear during fast idle my car will kickback with loud bam noise at same time and then car starts moving normally. The transmission fluid+filter have been replaced twice in 5 years.
@Scotty, coming from the cold NE, wouldn't you say that warming up the engine for a little while in winter is not a bad idea? Maybe 10 minutes?
I love idling!!
If you idle your car a lot make sure you check your PCV valve and entire PCV system and make sure that you give it the ole “Italian tuneup” a couple times a week after the engine is at normal operating temperature. The water that condensed in the oil will be sucked into the engine via the PCV system and will actually steam clean the carbon from the combustion chamber. Just put 250k miles on a 3mz and there’s very little carbon in the combustion chamber.
I change my oil every 10,000 miles on my corolla and its 14 years old with 160,000 miles and it absolutely has no issues and i certainly dont do mainly highway driving. i do use Valvoline fully synthetic though so maybe if cheap oil is used 5,000 miles is the limit
Its a Toyota my guy
You cant kill that engine
Scotty Kilmer videos be like.
Last weeks video: idling saves thousands in repairs.
Todays video: idling destroys engines
Well I bought a Kia 2022 brand new the dealership messed the original engine up and they replaced it brand new. That was around 75k. I'm at 175677 right now, and i drive close to 10 k a month in it and I change oil every month, but I believed that I shouldn't or didn't need to replace transmission fluid and so I haven't so I am now worried that the lifetime of my transmission will suffer since I chose not to take care of it the same as the oil, brakes, tires etc.
In another video you said if the car is modern and you put it in park or neutral it's ok.
I have Mazda 3 1.6 354,054 Miles ,you think Soot cleaning will extend the life of the car and will slightly improve fuel consumption?
Because we change oil based on the miles not the hours that engine is running so if you keep your engine idling for a long time and then plus the miles that’s gonna wear out oil way sooner
I have a 2013 F-150 with the 3.7L after I fill up my gas tank and go and start the truck it has a hard time starting but it only does it when I fill up after it doesn't do it anymore till I fill up again been doing it for a couple months
I spent a lot of time idling I’m driving a Nissan rogue I’ve got 120,000 I use synthetic fluid I change my oil every 7000 miles I have the cvt transmission I change the fluid every 30,000 along with both transmission filter yes it has 2 filters
I have a 2019 Kia Sportage. Can I use engine flush before I change the oil
i have a 07 altima at 217k miles i just got the death whine at most how long can i expect this transmission to go till it actually dies? and should i change the transmission oil?
DO NOT CHANGE. CONSULT MECHANIC