I don't think this guy understands what a sports car is. He sounds like he just wants a car that looks like sports car with none of the power, and all the luxuries in a luxury car
Owned a 2019 GTI (RE w/DSG), 2019 Cooper JCW (mt), 2018 Focus ST (mt), 2017 Focus RS, Edge ST (w/PP), Nismo Juke RS AWD, and currently 2023 Kona N... Hyundai N cars are easily the best bang for your buck! They have nice styling, performance, features, and warranty!
I've driven my Kona N for nearly 5k miles almost exclusively in N mode, customized with the lowest suspension setting and I get 22+ MPG. I'm not sure how you could possibly get 18.8 MPG unless your car is broken. As for interior quality. Didn't you sit in the car before you bought it?
I believe something may be wrong with your DCT. My EN does not hold 1st gear that long in any mode. Even in N mode it should shift between 2-3k. Take it in for the recall.
I’ve had mine for 300 miles. Coming from an Acura RL it’s definitely a rough ride. But all that said, I love driving it. Can’t wait for the motor or break in. Mine is a 2023, no recall on it yet. My only gripe is the hatch feels like I’ll break it when I close it. Beside that, I am happy so far. Thanks for the video!
Side note. Drove both the Kona N and Standard Kona's. Lane keep is a driving "Assist" That doesn't mean you can willy nilly take your hands off the wheel for extended periods of time. Idk what this guy is saying by "I can drive 30 minuets at a time without touching the wheel" Maybe this has been patched but if you go for more than 10 seconds without touching the wheel your car will stop "Lane keep" and you and your boys will go flying off the road ina ditch. Be careful, don't rely on technology to drive your ass around. Be attentive, keep both hands on the wheel at all times, really aint that hard. Kinda sad how many people think their car will safely drive them around LOL.
@@Mittis_bot The Kona N does NOT prompt you to grab the wheel every 10 seconds. It has in the past left me alone for almost 30 minutes without telling me to grab the wheel.
I'm going down to 18s with a thick PS4S tire. With fortune auto coilovers. I wish we got radar cruise control. Cooled seats Heated wheel Camera button Parking sensor and button And HUD. I would have gladly paid another 5 to 8k for all that.
@@ChannelMaster720 the n line is slow tho. the N is fast, and the N is the only reason to buy a kona. they could have made a beast if they added awd, a sunroof, and the other missing features from the interior.
MY 2022 N-line DCT works perfectly. Go figure. Of course I also paid $40,000 Cdn for the AWD with the Tech package. The 'N' is for those specific people, it is NOT a family sedan, as the OP says. LOL So far, the only issue is the turbo pressure randomly won't happen. (6 x in two years) Otherwise, love the lane follow, HDA and Adaptive Cruise, the cushy interior, the firm ride, 130 mph easily achieved, Smart Mode is awesome, stereo and LED lighting is amazing, etc........ 🙂 AND, I can have lots of fun, and still get 30mpg. Yes, I am an old fart @68, but have owned my share of hot rods, and Camaro Z28, Trans Am, Chevelle SS, Mustang, Cougar, etc........ Oh yeah, did I mention the traction action on slippery roads with the AWD? First off the line.
Mine doesn’t hold gears like yours so maybe you should get it checked. The missing features and colors are strange as well, but i think the interior and suspension are fine. I drive my 60 year old parents around it and they never complain about the ride quality.
All I'm saying is I think they could've make it softer. The sway bars prevent rolling so they would've been fine. Otherwise I love the car. My car is part of the transmission recall so whenever Hyundai gives me a call we'll get it sorted out.
Funny how most of the missing features you mentioned are addressed and included in the 2023 model. We get a Heads Up Display, we get Heated Steering Wheel, still no cooled seats, and we get Smart Cruise Control
The models are different per region. The USA models don’t get these features. Canada and other countries did. In the USA all Kona N models are exactly the same. The only thing that could be different is if you optioned for a custom sunroof.
@@lifeofmike556 that's a shame, I would have assumed Canada and the US would have the same model as they tend to be the same for the North American market. I'm considering picking up a 2023 though, I appreciate your comments on the car regardless.
In Canada we do get a lot of the features that he doesnt. I'm surprised actually. I do have HUD and a heated steering wheel and those other drive modes he mentioned. I agree the interior is cheaper but the plastic doesn't bother me at all because its easier to clean, like he said. Totally agree the ride is way too stiff !!
I have a 2020 Veloster N w/6MT and the performance package. It is my amusement park ride on wheels. I have no negatives with my manual transmission N. The firm ride? I have driven sporty cars my whole life and I do not mind my VN. I usually drive it in Sport Mode. That's me. Anyway...love my VN and it has been completely flawless in over two years of childish driving.
Mine does not hold gear like that, only in N mode or ngs does it hold 1st gear like you describe. I would get it checked or try a reset. Mine shifts to second at around 2.1k in normal or eco in 1st depending how hard you stomp on it of course* gas mileage i avg 26 mpg with mixed city driving and hour long N mode drives sometimes.
I also agree with you guy’s on the holding the gears. I have an Elantra N DCT so maybe that’s the difference but highly doubt that. In Eco,normal, and sport it does not hold first or any gear overly long.
Surprisingly I haven't heard any recall of kona N and i30 N here in Australia even in UK and Europe...they used exactly same engine and gear box globally. Anyway I just cancelled my order because I think it will happen here in Australia soon.
@@leevo007lv James do you think that other brands never have recall ? Toyota, VW, Ford, or whatever ? Never ? And btw the current American recall applies to a given period only. Not every car, and especially not to the cars will be produced in the future.
Yeahh..my KN don't be holding no high rpms on 1st gear, that don't sound good. You have personal nitpicks about the cluster, interior. I agree the whole " we didn't receive all the modes and features that other countries got " it is what it is. What we got was a base KN. Lame af forsure. But the suspension sounds like another personal thing. Normal and sport is fine to me. N is bouncy forsure but you can change that if you make a custom N profile. I'm happy with my KN, just hit 7000mi. I'd say just get that high rpm on 1st checked out!
Something is definitely wrong with your trans. My KN shifts out of 1st very quickly in all modes. Also, if gas mileage is a big concern of yours... don't buy performance models. Same goes for the suspension, it's rough and they should have one level that is softer than the lowest setting, but if you've ever driven a Civic R or a Focus RS, or even a GTI... this is performance model stiffness.
My car mostly stays in Custom 1, where I set engine all the way up but transmission in the middle. My shifts happen at reasonable RPM's unless I enter N mode, where it generally holds them a bit longer. Another transmission setting I changed was turning off N Power Shift but not sure if that stays constant, I just find the gear changes too brutal with that mode on under strong acceleration. I drive fairly conservatively most of the time, not sure if the DCT has any degree of 'learning' that might also contribute to the reasonable RPM shifts. Also, depending on how fast/far I press the pedal given X speed, the gears are held longer or shorter. The missing convenience features are a MAJOR pain to me, on top of the song and dance octane learning for full boost. No radar cruz also means forward collision avoidance doesn't use sensor fusion(camera + radar), making it less robust. The wireless charged pad really needed an A/C duct to keep the phone cool, really bad design. No smart key support for iOS. Suspension is missing a true comfort mode but I disagree about not needing a stiff setting given the ground clearance.
I hope you see this sir but the Kona n recently had a recall for the transmission and I’m pretty positive that’s why yours is hanging the revs please check asap
My 2022 Kona: no GPS (Grrrrr.....), no electric seat positioning (Grrrr.....( no heated steering wheel (Grrrrr). If I had realized these features were NOT included, I woud have passed on it. (Grrr.....am stuck with this thing)......
You're not really stuck with it. Just put it on Facebook marketplace or a website where people buy cars with existing loans. You just transfer the payments to another person
That transmission issue is not the norm. Mine doesn't do that at all. There is a recall out about the Oil pump and transmission. Get your car in asap. I like the rest of the list though. You are bang on about the suspension, it's way to much. Seems to be the reason most Kona N owners are dropping to 18's. My MPG is 26 to 30, 18 is not normal. Just want to add I hate the Pirelli's they suck. Switching to Michelin or Conti's performance A/S as soon as the PZeros are toast.
I just ordered the Michelin pilot sport 4 all seasons. They'll be a much better ride undoubtedly! As for the transmission taking forever to shift from first gear (sometimes) and crunching a lot into first we'll see what happens down the road.
@@lifeofmike556 Those the ones I want to order as well. But I need to pay off my X-Ice Tires first. I would seriously at least look your VIN# up for the recall. Please don't delay on getting this fix done so they can't nail you for an overrevving ECU error. My car is going in on Nov 5 for my tires and to get my recalls looked up and checked. As a person that went through 1 Kia Sportage engine, I become very anxious over these things.
@@2Hale45 Im calling Hyundai tomorrow when they open to check on the vin of my vehicle. I did get a letter in the mail Friday about a recall... Doesn't make sense because there's no fix for it yet. I'll call anyways just to say I did.
@@lifeofmike556 I just looked it up and on autoblog the fix is a possibly a brand new transmission, and updated transmission unit software. The fix was released a day or two ago. My dealer didn't know anything about it on Friday. I am also in Canada, so... not even sure how it affects me. The Red Kona N is fire by the way.
@@lifeofmike556 You don’t think there is a remedy right now. Not until December? I called and wanted to punch the advisor in the face through the phone! They are extremely rude!
Mine does not hold the rpm’s like that it shifts normally and gets 24-26 mpg’s in the city, the ride is a little harsh but it grips the road especially around corners
the transmission tune and new sensor brings it to 20-21 but now they found it doesnt cut power in time and you still need a new trans. its being recalled again next month so drive easy
No matter what mode you set it in, when you shut off and restart engine , it defaults back to normal. Hyundai should fix that so it stays in the mode you set it in, until you change it, no matter how many times you shut it off and restart ....yes, all season tires are the way to go. 🧐🤔🤗
Agreed after having my KN for 5000 km I replaced the tires with Continental Extreme Contacts. It did help with overall traction in different weather and a smoother ride too.
Agree with your thoughts on the suspension. Test drove a Kona N and it was incredibly harsh. Want this car to work for me but unless Hyundai softens the ride in normal (not likely) I won't be a buyer. For reference, I've owned WRXs since '02 and a '91 NSX both seem to handle okay without hammering my spine.
@@vroomgc Not that it matters. I recently bought a GR Corolla. It certainly has firm ride but nothing to the level of the Kona N. In all fairness the car was likely in N mode when I drove it.
@@stevethomas760 I own a Kona N for about 10 months now and had a Golf R before that, the KN is much harsher in normal mode than the R was in Race mode. So ya its a hard ride. How do you like the GR ? They are pretty pricey but seem like a neat looking car. I dont know how much interior room they have ?
@@vroomgc If the KN would have been offered with a manual I would have bought one. A lot of bang for the buck. My GR doesn't have any of the available packages (performance/tech/weather). Would have liked to have the performance package but okay without the other two. MSRP + $1300 dealer ad ons (40K). A small car, size of my '05 WRX hatch. It's a fun car to drive and it has the things I really wanted, decent power/manual trans.
Mine runs really high rpms at highway speeds, even in eco mode. The fuel economy is so bad yet I read many instances online when I was shopping this car that they often exceeded mpg highway ratings. My highway mpgs don’t even get the city rating and it’s really annoying. I think something is wrong with my dct too.
@@themack11 Those were my thoughts exactly. With cruise set to 80 and no impactful elevation change, it averages 19-20mpg on the highway. Frustrating. I want to take it to a dealer but I’m currently studying abroad in Europe so I won’t be able to until I get back this summer. :/
Hi @lifeofmike223 I cannot agree with the criticism of the blue design of the ECO mode. About 70% of the earth is water. Water is blue. That's why the earth is called the blue planet. Some manufacturers have models with alleged fuel-saving technologies. They also often target the colour blue in the name ("Blue Motion", "BlueTec", "Blue Efficiency" ...).
I got 2022 Elantra n. You definitely have something wrong maybe like what everyone else said it’s the recall My car shift fine doesn’t hang in the rpm. My city mpg mixed is 28 and 34 mpg on hwy I have 12k miles and no problem So far and I beat the hell out my car but I always wait till oil temp is 160 before I do anything
Sounds like you bought the car without knowing anything about it. Good perfect performance car with the wrong owner IMO. Too many complaints lmao to each his own I guess. You should consider passing on the car to a different owner that will appreciates it for what it is. The coding and how the transmission works is perfect. I absolutely love my Kona N.
You make a great argument for having a manual option. Save the manuals! I would never own a car that I couldn't control the gear selection! I can't believe Hyundai dropped the ball on this one.
Haven't you noticed that you can put it in 'manual' mode? Not quite the same as the Ferrari gearboxes, but if you put the gear lever to the left (from Drive), then you get to control what gear you're in. You can't miss a gear, and it might stop you from changing at too low or too high revs (it does this in the Renault and the Alfa - our Kona arrives next month).
Dropped the ball 🤣 DCTs are an automated manual. They shift faster than any human can, eliminate user-error, are stout gearboxes, and give the driver more control over the transmission than a simple manual - Manual mode (mentioned above) is an option on these cars. DCTs can reduce 0-60 times by up to if not more than 1-sec... proving that banging through gears on your manual tranny does not make you faster.
No it should kick off and on If u use ac and defrost it makes ac compressor kick on and makes fans come on more often but they should cycle on and off as temperature is
Hyundai really makes no sense with their trim levels. The EV in U.S. gets both heated/cooled seats and heated steering wheel but again, omission being folding side mirrors and no HUD, which is kind of gimmicky in the end anyway.
You can customize how loud you want the maximum volume. The Harmon Kardon is amazing. And it gets insanely loud. Sucks you didn’t actually check out your cars options it comes with.
@@cindysue5474 There’s a lot you can do. Only problem with the sound system is it can’t hit low bass notes. But it’s top of the line. Not the best. But one of the best. Fender Audio is better and one of the more rare options in vehicles. But I believe Bose is the best in the industry at the moment.
@@jrizzyjoe - What? My Kona's Harmon-Kardon effortlessly blasts out bass notes, down to at least 50 Hz, possibly 30 Hz. Really excellent. Check your parametric EQ setup.
Sorry to say but this is why hot-hatches are not so popular in America. You want a comfy hot-hatch car with high mpg ! It's an oxymoron, no such car exists. I drive my Kona almost always in N mode, the Normal mode is for warming up the oil to 90°C. I don't care the mpg (l/100km) at all, and I rev it, I drive it in 2nd gear in the city (about 3...4000rpm at least). In the 3rd gear, it would run about 80 kmh (50 mph), that is too much in the city I'd lose my licence very quickly. Your other complaints are absolutely righteous, why don't you get adaptive cruise in America ? Why no ventillated seats and other things you mentioned. Why no heated rear seats and no HUD. It's so unbelievable and inexplicable and silly, I think Putin hacked the American Hyundai. It's still a very good car though.
@@Kyumilli It starts in "Normal" mode always, that is the default. It doesn't remember the latest mode, you have to select an other mode if you want. It's ok, warming up the car in N mode is not ideal, and you need to think of neighbours also, when you start the car in morning. N mode is loud an you wake them up.
@@Kyumilli There might be a liability/legal reason they don't allow the car to default to the last customer selected setting. It appears to be the case that the exhaust is too loud to be legal in some locations. Having it default to normal on power cycle might be Hyundai's way of offering a louder exhaust while passing regulations. You can turn the car on in any mode you want by first hitting the start button without your foot on the brake and selecting the mode before hitting the power button again while pressing the brake.
You must research B4 you purchase. No surprise that way. 40k out the door. There are some very nice cars out there for that money. Bottom line Kia/ Hyundai might not be a good choice. They do not have a good reputation for a reason. The resale is in the toilet. Get rid of it now, you might get some of you money back while the market is still upside down. If you wait it won't be worth anything.
I somewhat disagree. I did my research for over 2 years on the Kona N. The brand definitely came a long way I think it's significantly better than it used to be. I knew the general manager at this dealership so I got an unheard of discount. The salesman I bought it from was a full time college student and didn't care about the money but the experience. So I can definitely sell this car for a profit and it's already half paid off in 6 months. I have BMW X3-M on my list if I can find one used. But im very happy with my Kona N so far. Anyone can find 5 things to complain about with any car. I actually wanted an RC-F but then gas got expensive. Wanted an X3-M but the chip shortage made them expensive. We'll see what happens in a few years.
I agree these cars are holding there value quite well! I’ve seen Veloster N’s selling for 35k with over 16k miles on them. That and these cars are quite rare I’ve still yet to see a Kona N in the wild!
Have to disagree with your idea that Hyundai doesn't have a good reputation. I did some intense, lengthy research on multiple subcompact SUVs and Hyundai was ALWAYS listed in the Top 5, usually at No. 2 or 3. I also spoke to Hyundai owners before I bought my 2023 Kona N and heard nothing but positive things. As for the US not getting some features, yeah that kind of sucks but, it's still got a ton of other great features and honestly, the cluster display colors is a personal preference thing I suspect many ppl aren't as concerned about. Definitely not something to "hate" about the car, imho. Still, good review though. Thanks for sharing.
No I definitely wouldn't compare it to a lesser brand such as Audi that ranks significantly less in reliability and dependability. It's a great car for being in the low $30's. People like me buy these cars because we're still growing in life and don't wanna spoil ourselves at 24 with Porsche 911s and Mercedes. I rather buy something in budget that I can afford to own and maintain with pocket change.
@@lifeofmike556 it’s a Hyundai what do u expect never had any issue with my Audi I will never drive a Korean car growing in life get a Honda or a Toyota never Hyundai or Kia.
Only a child would spend most of the video going on complaining about cosmetic things yet glosses over the transmission issue, which as a owner of the DCT Veloster turbo I can tell you the DCT is garbage and when I got my Veloster N I made sure to go back to the 6 speed Manual.
Is the veloster N a big upgrade in power compared to the veloster turbo? What I mean is if you can feel the difference? I really want to get one because I like hatchbacks more than sedans. Probably the only thing I would miss is the power sunroof on the veloster turbo.
@@hakualex yes. I drive it in N mode custom all the time and you can feel the get up and go. The power isn’t the only thing. The steering is on point and can handle twisty roads really well. The turbo every time I get in and drive feels like a boat.
“buys a performance car” hates the gas mileage…
I don't think this guy understands what a sports car is.
He sounds like he just wants a car that looks like sports car with none of the power, and all the luxuries in a luxury car
Owned a 2019 GTI (RE w/DSG), 2019 Cooper JCW (mt), 2018 Focus ST (mt), 2017 Focus RS, Edge ST (w/PP), Nismo Juke RS AWD, and currently 2023 Kona N... Hyundai N cars are easily the best bang for your buck! They have nice styling, performance, features, and warranty!
No Mazda 3 MPS.... You missed out
I've driven my Kona N for nearly 5k miles almost exclusively in N mode, customized with the lowest suspension setting and I get 22+ MPG. I'm not sure how you could possibly get 18.8 MPG unless your car is broken. As for interior quality. Didn't you sit in the car before you bought it?
I pride myself to always roll in N mode.. If I get more than 12 mpg, i'm driving it wrong.
I believe something may be wrong with your DCT. My EN does not hold 1st gear that long in any mode. Even in N mode it should shift between 2-3k. Take it in for the recall.
Mine does
My DCT is fine also.
My DCT doesn’t do that either.
Agreed. My N shifts normally in all modes.
23k miles on my KN, no issues with holding gears, definitely seems faulty on his car.
Wow I haven’t seen a car interor that’s not plastic 😂
The thing I hate most about the Kona N is the dealer markup. Otherwise I'd have one.
My dealer wanted to add 5k..making the.price 41k..better options in that price point
Have your vin checked for new transmission recall!! Best of luck!!
I’ve had mine for 300 miles. Coming from an Acura RL it’s definitely a rough ride. But all that said, I love driving it. Can’t wait for the motor or break in. Mine is a 2023, no recall on it yet. My only gripe is the hatch feels like I’ll break it when I close it. Beside that, I am happy so far. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching Matthew
Redline that thing dude, you know damn well test drivers did, and it also seals the rings nicely :)
Side note. Drove both the Kona N and Standard Kona's. Lane keep is a driving "Assist" That doesn't mean you can willy nilly take your hands off the wheel for extended periods of time. Idk what this guy is saying by "I can drive 30 minuets at a time without touching the wheel" Maybe this has been patched but if you go for more than 10 seconds without touching the wheel your car will stop "Lane keep" and you and your boys will go flying off the road ina ditch. Be careful, don't rely on technology to drive your ass around. Be attentive, keep both hands on the wheel at all times, really aint that hard. Kinda sad how many people think their car will safely drive them around LOL.
If you don’t know what you’re talking about don’t comment anything at all.
@@lifeofmike556 If you don't know what you are talking about, don't put it online telling everyone something completely incorrect... Imgine that...
You are extremely misleading, have fun with your 500 subs.@@lifeofmike556
@@Mittis_bot The Kona N does NOT prompt you to grab the wheel every 10 seconds. It has in the past left me alone for almost 30 minutes without telling me to grab the wheel.
@@lifeofmike556 the 2024 Kona tells me to put my hands on the wheel after about 15-30 seconds
Apparently there is a recall for the DCTs, so take urs to the dealer to get it checked
I'm going down to 18s with a thick PS4S tire. With fortune auto coilovers.
I wish we got radar cruise control.
Cooled seats
Heated wheel
Camera button
Parking sensor and button
And HUD.
I would have gladly paid another 5 to 8k for all that.
You might have considered the Kona N-Line "Technology" version, instead of the N???
I dunno...
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How did the tire change work out and the coilovers ? Is the ride much easier ?
I have all of that in my kona n premium my interior is alot better than the one in the video
@@ChannelMaster720 the n line is slow tho. the N is fast, and the N is the only reason to buy a kona. they could have made a beast if they added awd, a sunroof, and the other missing features from the interior.
The Australian premium spec has all of those features.
MY 2022 N-line DCT works perfectly. Go figure. Of course I also paid $40,000 Cdn for the AWD with the Tech package. The 'N' is for those specific people, it is NOT a family sedan, as the OP says. LOL So far, the only issue is the turbo pressure randomly won't happen. (6 x in two years) Otherwise, love the lane follow, HDA and Adaptive Cruise, the cushy interior, the firm ride, 130 mph easily achieved, Smart Mode is awesome, stereo and LED lighting is amazing, etc........ 🙂 AND, I can have lots of fun, and still get 30mpg. Yes, I am an old fart @68, but have owned my share of hot rods, and Camaro Z28, Trans Am, Chevelle SS, Mustang, Cougar, etc........ Oh yeah, did I mention the traction action on slippery roads with the AWD? First off the line.
Lol the deer is a pretty accurate description of the suspension
Do you have the same issues with the Sonata N?
Mine doesn’t hold gears like yours so maybe you should get it checked. The missing features and colors are strange as well, but i think the interior and suspension are fine. I drive my 60 year old parents around it and they never complain about the ride quality.
All I'm saying is I think they could've make it softer. The sway bars prevent rolling so they would've been fine. Otherwise I love the car. My car is part of the transmission recall so whenever Hyundai gives me a call we'll get it sorted out.
Funny how most of the missing features you mentioned are addressed and included in the 2023 model. We get a Heads Up Display, we get Heated Steering Wheel, still no cooled seats, and we get Smart Cruise Control
The models are different per region. The USA models don’t get these features. Canada and other countries did. In the USA all Kona N models are exactly the same. The only thing that could be different is if you optioned for a custom sunroof.
@@lifeofmike556 that's a shame, I would have assumed Canada and the US would have the same model as they tend to be the same for the North American market. I'm considering picking up a 2023 though, I appreciate your comments on the car regardless.
In Canada we do get a lot of the features that he doesnt. I'm surprised actually. I do have HUD and a heated steering wheel and those other drive modes he mentioned. I agree the interior is cheaper but the plastic doesn't bother me at all because its easier to clean, like he said. Totally agree the ride is way too stiff !!
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I have a 2020 Veloster N w/6MT and the performance package. It is my amusement park ride on wheels. I have no negatives with my manual transmission N. The firm ride? I have driven sporty cars my whole life and I do not mind my VN. I usually drive it in Sport Mode. That's me. Anyway...love my VN and it has been completely flawless in over two years of childish driving.
Just wait until you drive a 21 N the suspension is a lot more stiff
you should try driving a type r civic.. the velostar N feels dangerous at highspeeds the civic wants to goooo
@@pppcorn I’ve owned both the non performance and performance Veloster N and haven’t had any problems when going above 160 or tracking the cars.
Mine does not hold gear like that, only in N mode or ngs does it hold 1st gear like you describe. I would get it checked or try a reset. Mine shifts to second at around 2.1k in normal or eco in 1st depending how hard you stomp on it of course* gas mileage i avg 26 mpg with mixed city driving and hour long N mode drives sometimes.
In N mode it hold the gear longer than other mode but shouldn't be that long, I think you should get your car check..
I agree, in ECO mode it switches up very quickly from any gear to the higher one. It's revving in N and Sport mode only.
I also agree with you guy’s on the holding the gears. I have an Elantra N DCT so maybe that’s the difference but highly doubt that. In Eco,normal, and sport it does not hold first or any gear overly long.
Surprisingly I haven't heard any recall of kona N and i30 N here in Australia even in UK and Europe...they used exactly same engine and gear box globally.
Anyway I just cancelled my order because I think it will happen here in Australia soon.
@@leevo007lv James do you think that other brands never have recall ? Toyota, VW, Ford, or whatever ? Never ? And btw the current American recall applies to a given period only. Not every car, and especially not to the cars will be produced in the future.
Yeahh..my KN don't be holding no high rpms on 1st gear, that don't sound good. You have personal nitpicks about the cluster, interior. I agree the whole " we didn't receive all the modes and features that other countries got " it is what it is. What we got was a base KN. Lame af forsure. But the suspension sounds like another personal thing. Normal and sport is fine to me. N is bouncy forsure but you can change that if you make a custom N profile. I'm happy with my KN, just hit 7000mi. I'd say just get that high rpm on 1st checked out!
Something is definitely wrong with your trans. My KN shifts out of 1st very quickly in all modes.
Also, if gas mileage is a big concern of yours... don't buy performance models. Same goes for the suspension, it's rough and they should have one level that is softer than the lowest setting, but if you've ever driven a Civic R or a Focus RS, or even a GTI... this is performance model stiffness.
My car mostly stays in Custom 1, where I set engine all the way up but transmission in the middle. My shifts happen at reasonable RPM's unless I enter N mode, where it generally holds them a bit longer. Another transmission setting I changed was turning off N Power Shift but not sure if that stays constant, I just find the gear changes too brutal with that mode on under strong acceleration. I drive fairly conservatively most of the time, not sure if the DCT has any degree of 'learning' that might also contribute to the reasonable RPM shifts. Also, depending on how fast/far I press the pedal given X speed, the gears are held longer or shorter.
The missing convenience features are a MAJOR pain to me, on top of the song and dance octane learning for full boost. No radar cruz also means forward collision avoidance doesn't use sensor fusion(camera + radar), making it less robust. The wireless charged pad really needed an A/C duct to keep the phone cool, really bad design. No smart key support for iOS. Suspension is missing a true comfort mode but I disagree about not needing a stiff setting given the ground clearance.
‘I wanna look at the road. It’s a sports car. It needs HUD!’
‘The gauges need to draw me in to stare at them longer’ 😅
I have a Veloster N DCT and my trans shifts up super early in eco mode. Something is wrong with your transmission for sure. I get mid 30s mpg in eco.
Sounds like you have the transmission recall
Its a dct transmission its not the only one that does that go drive other dct transmission and you will experience jerking clunking aall over
I hope you see this sir but the Kona n recently had a recall for the transmission and I’m pretty positive that’s why yours is hanging the revs please check asap
My 2022 Kona: no GPS (Grrrrr.....), no electric seat positioning (Grrrr.....( no heated steering wheel (Grrrrr). If I had realized these features were NOT included, I woud have passed on it. (Grrr.....am stuck with this thing)......
You're not really stuck with it. Just put it on Facebook marketplace or a website where people buy cars with existing loans. You just transfer the payments to another person
No GPS or electric seat positioning? You mean NAV and power seats? Mine definitely has navigation and a power drivers seat...
That transmission issue is not the norm. Mine doesn't do that at all. There is a recall out about the Oil pump and transmission. Get your car in asap.
I like the rest of the list though. You are bang on about the suspension, it's way to much. Seems to be the reason most Kona N owners are dropping to 18's. My MPG is 26 to 30, 18 is not normal.
Just want to add I hate the Pirelli's they suck. Switching to Michelin or Conti's performance A/S as soon as the PZeros are toast.
I just ordered the Michelin pilot sport 4 all seasons. They'll be a much better ride undoubtedly! As for the transmission taking forever to shift from first gear (sometimes) and crunching a lot into first we'll see what happens down the road.
@@lifeofmike556 Those the ones I want to order as well. But I need to pay off my X-Ice Tires first. I would seriously at least look your VIN# up for the recall. Please don't delay on getting this fix done so they can't nail you for an overrevving ECU error. My car is going in on Nov 5 for my tires and to get my recalls looked up and checked.
As a person that went through 1 Kia Sportage engine, I become very anxious over these things.
@@2Hale45 Im calling Hyundai tomorrow when they open to check on the vin of my vehicle. I did get a letter in the mail Friday about a recall... Doesn't make sense because there's no fix for it yet. I'll call anyways just to say I did.
@@lifeofmike556 I just looked it up and on autoblog the fix is a possibly a brand new transmission, and updated transmission unit software. The fix was released a day or two ago. My dealer didn't know anything about it on Friday. I am also in Canada, so... not even sure how it affects me. The Red Kona N is fire by the way.
@@lifeofmike556 You don’t think there is a remedy right now. Not until December? I called and wanted to punch the advisor in the face through the phone! They are extremely rude!
Agreed. The suspension sucks!
Mine does not hold the rpm’s like that it shifts normally and gets 24-26 mpg’s in the city, the ride is a little harsh but it grips the road especially around corners
In normal mode,what speed until you get the 8th gear?
@@leevo007lv not until highway speeds
did you get the replacement transmission yet
Must be nice. Mine gets 20-21 on the highway… rpms hold way too high for highway cruising speeds. About 2400 in Eco mode at 80mph
the transmission tune and new sensor brings it to 20-21 but now they found it doesnt cut power in time and you still need a new trans. its being recalled again next month so drive easy
No matter what mode you set it in, when you shut off and restart engine , it defaults back to normal.
Hyundai should fix that so it stays in the mode you set it in, until you change it, no matter how many times you shut it off and restart ....yes, all season tires are the way to go. 🧐🤔🤗
Agreed after having my KN for 5000 km I replaced the tires with Continental Extreme Contacts. It did help with overall traction in different weather and a smoother ride too.
Agree with your thoughts on the suspension. Test drove a Kona N and it was incredibly harsh. Want this car to work for me but unless Hyundai softens the ride in normal (not likely) I won't be a buyer. For reference, I've owned WRXs since '02 and a '91 NSX both seem to handle okay without hammering my spine.
The ride is harsher than it needs to be, I agree, and it could use a bit more sound dampening for the sake of an extra 30-40 lbs
@@vroomgc Not that it matters. I recently bought a GR Corolla. It certainly has firm ride but nothing to the level of the Kona N. In all fairness the car was likely in N mode when I drove it.
@@stevethomas760 I own a Kona N for about 10 months now and had a Golf R before that, the KN is much harsher in normal mode than the R was in Race mode. So ya its a hard ride. How do you like the GR ? They are pretty pricey but seem like a neat looking car. I dont know how much interior room they have ?
@@vroomgc If the KN would have been offered with a manual I would have bought one. A lot of bang for the buck. My GR doesn't have any of the available packages (performance/tech/weather). Would have liked to have the performance package but okay without the other two. MSRP + $1300 dealer ad ons (40K). A small car, size of my '05 WRX hatch. It's a fun car to drive and it has the things I really wanted, decent power/manual trans.
Mine runs really high rpms at highway speeds, even in eco mode. The fuel economy is so bad yet I read many instances online when I was shopping this car that they often exceeded mpg highway ratings. My highway mpgs don’t even get the city rating and it’s really annoying. I think something is wrong with my dct too.
To clarify, about 2400rpms at 75-80mph.
@@barrettbritt Seems slightly elevated. Like an even 2000rpms at 80mph seems like the sweet spot
@@themack11 Those were my thoughts exactly. With cruise set to 80 and no impactful elevation change, it averages 19-20mpg on the highway. Frustrating. I want to take it to a dealer but I’m currently studying abroad in Europe so I won’t be able to until I get back this summer. :/
U need take it in I bet it needs reprogrammed or it may have recall The guy made video had get a reprogrammed and it’s fine now
Hi @lifeofmike223
I cannot agree with the criticism of the blue design of the ECO mode.
About 70% of the earth is water. Water is blue.
That's why the earth is called the blue planet.
Some manufacturers have models with alleged fuel-saving technologies.
They also often target the colour blue in the name ("Blue Motion", "BlueTec", "Blue Efficiency" ...).
Can't forget the horn doesn't work. Don't want you to go & rear end someone
I got 2022 Elantra n. You definitely have something wrong maybe like what everyone else said it’s the recall My car shift fine doesn’t hang in the rpm. My city mpg mixed is 28 and 34 mpg on hwy I have 12k miles and no problem So far and I beat the hell out my car but I always wait till oil temp is 160 before I do anything
the replacement transmission in the elantra and kona does not shift as nice
Sounds like you bought the car without knowing anything about it. Good perfect performance car with the wrong owner IMO. Too many complaints lmao to each his own I guess. You should consider passing on the car to a different owner that will appreciates it for what it is. The coding and how the transmission works is perfect.
I absolutely love my Kona N.
Yea, mine doesn’t hold gears like that. It switches very quickly in eco and normal
Same
Car is beside normal mode and a snowflake is beside the snow mode. You don’t see that?
I think yours has problems, mine does not hold rpm and i get up to 34.5 MPG.
You make a great argument for having a manual option. Save the manuals! I would never own a car that I couldn't control the gear selection! I can't believe Hyundai dropped the ball on this one.
Haven't you noticed that you can put it in 'manual' mode? Not quite the same as the Ferrari gearboxes, but if you put the gear lever to the left (from Drive), then you get to control what gear you're in. You can't miss a gear, and it might stop you from changing at too low or too high revs (it does this in the Renault and the Alfa - our Kona arrives next month).
Dropped the ball 🤣
DCTs are an automated manual. They shift faster than any human can, eliminate user-error, are stout gearboxes, and give the driver more control over the transmission than a simple manual - Manual mode (mentioned above) is an option on these cars. DCTs can reduce 0-60 times by up to if not more than 1-sec... proving that banging through gears on your manual tranny does not make you faster.
I hope you contacted manufacturer about transmission!? They totally ignore us ..look at dodgers nitro!
So the cheaper n line gets leather interior and the more expensive n gets cloth seats. Why?
The N does not get cloth seats. They are a mix of leather and suede. It’s so you don’t slide around in the seat when you’re on the track.
Have question my Kona N radiator fan never turns off is this normal
No it should kick off and on If u use ac and defrost it makes ac compressor kick on and makes fans come on more often but they should cycle on and off as temperature is
@@shotgunz1248 thank you for information
The HUD is on the N Premium
In the USA the Kona N only comes in one trim with no options. The Kona in the USA does not get a HUD or Sunroof
@@lifeofmike556 I thought the HUD was a gimmick but after using it for a while, I wouldn't buy a car without it
This car should have had analog gauges! The weird rectangle black hole you look into isn't very pretty.
Never even looked at the plastics once in my N it’s a drivers car and it’s cheap in comparison ….
My 2019 gti base model paid 30,000$ and it has heated seats blinds spot monitor already and if you tune stage 1 it’s faster than Kona N.
My Kona N has a recall. There is no remedy right now. Their service sucks! After the recall, I may find a new car.
Me as well. Im in the same boat as you.
Lol 4 months 16xxx miles here
US version sounds terrible. Australia got all the good stuff. Nothing like a heated steering wheel on a 40c day
Actually Canada got the heated steering wheel too and the HUD and the various drive modes he mentioned. Not cooled seats tho.
Hyundai really makes no sense with their trim levels. The EV in U.S. gets both heated/cooled seats and heated steering wheel but again, omission being folding side mirrors and no HUD, which is kind of gimmicky in the end anyway.
The sound system sucks the rear subwoofer should of had an amp.
I’ve owned the Kona n radio did suck. Low volume. I now own the Veloster N, radio sounds way better.
You can customize how loud you want the maximum volume. The Harmon Kardon is amazing. And it gets insanely loud. Sucks you didn’t actually check out your cars options it comes with.
@@jrizzyjoe All I did was check the bass tremble and speaker postion Ill look that up.
@@cindysue5474 There’s a lot you can do. Only problem with the sound system is it can’t hit low bass notes. But it’s top of the line. Not the best. But one of the best. Fender Audio is better and one of the more rare options in vehicles. But I believe Bose is the best in the industry at the moment.
@@jrizzyjoe - What? My Kona's Harmon-Kardon effortlessly blasts out bass notes, down to at least 50 Hz, possibly 30 Hz. Really excellent. Check your parametric EQ setup.
My N does not have that issue with the tranny you might have a rotten apple on your hands, My N in Eco on the Highway gets up to 33 mpgs.
It’s currently in the shop getting worked on. Been there for 2 weeks. It’s a lemon
Should have got the electric one 😊
So it could blow up..... 1d10t
My 2018 kona does the same 😂 1:18
Just shift on your own
How do I do that?
@@lifeofmike556 paddles behind the wheel 🤷♂️😉
Or with the gear leaver (push it to the left)
Are people paying sticker on these ?
Some are but I didn’t. I got mine for MSRP out the door. $37 and some change
@@lifeofmike556 out the doors means everything. Tax ,tag,,doc fees ect.
Got mine for 31k with 4k miles
Sorry to say but this is why hot-hatches are not so popular in America. You want a comfy hot-hatch car with high mpg ! It's an oxymoron, no such car exists. I drive my Kona almost always in N mode, the Normal mode is for warming up the oil to 90°C. I don't care the mpg (l/100km) at all, and I rev it, I drive it in 2nd gear in the city (about 3...4000rpm at least). In the 3rd gear, it would run about 80 kmh (50 mph), that is too much in the city I'd lose my licence very quickly. Your other complaints are absolutely righteous, why don't you get adaptive cruise in America ? Why no ventillated seats and other things you mentioned. Why no heated rear seats and no HUD. It's so unbelievable and inexplicable and silly, I think Putin hacked the American Hyundai. It's still a very good car though.
when you turn off your car in N mode and start up again does it stay in N mode or go to like Eco or normal by default?
@@Kyumilli It starts in "Normal" mode always, that is the default. It doesn't remember the latest mode, you have to select an other mode if you want. It's ok, warming up the car in N mode is not ideal, and you need to think of neighbours also, when you start the car in morning. N mode is loud an you wake them up.
@@telelaci2 ah fair makes sense haha thanks
@@Kyumilli There might be a liability/legal reason they don't allow the car to default to the last customer selected setting. It appears to be the case that the exhaust is too loud to be legal in some locations. Having it default to normal on power cycle might be Hyundai's way of offering a louder exhaust while passing regulations. You can turn the car on in any mode you want by first hitting the start button without your foot on the brake and selecting the mode before hitting the power button again while pressing the brake.
it's not an oxymoron. You have cars like Megane RS Sport or Golf R. They just need to come up with a more sophisticated setup at Hyundai.
One of the worst reviews ever. Guy buys a performance car and wants a soft suspension!!! Crazy!!!!
Who said I was reviewing the car lol
I bet it’s down hill
You must research B4 you purchase. No surprise that way. 40k out the door. There are some very nice cars out there for that money. Bottom line Kia/ Hyundai might not be a good choice. They do not have a good reputation for a reason. The resale is in the toilet. Get rid of it now, you might get some of you money back while the market is still upside down. If you wait it won't be worth anything.
I somewhat disagree. I did my research for over 2 years on the Kona N. The brand definitely came a long way I think it's significantly better than it used to be. I knew the general manager at this dealership so I got an unheard of discount. The salesman I bought it from was a full time college student and didn't care about the money but the experience. So I can definitely sell this car for a profit and it's already half paid off in 6 months. I have BMW X3-M on my list if I can find one used. But im very happy with my Kona N so far. Anyone can find 5 things to complain about with any car. I actually wanted an RC-F but then gas got expensive. Wanted an X3-M but the chip shortage made them expensive. We'll see what happens in a few years.
I agree these cars are holding there value quite well! I’ve seen Veloster N’s selling for 35k with over 16k miles on them. That and these cars are quite rare I’ve still yet to see a Kona N in the wild!
Have to disagree with your idea that Hyundai doesn't have a good reputation. I did some intense, lengthy research on multiple subcompact SUVs and Hyundai was ALWAYS listed in the Top 5, usually at No. 2 or 3.
I also spoke to Hyundai owners before I bought my 2023 Kona N and heard nothing but positive things.
As for the US not getting some features, yeah that kind of sucks but, it's still got a ton of other great features and honestly, the cluster display colors is a personal preference thing I suspect many ppl aren't as concerned about. Definitely not something to "hate" about the car, imho.
Still, good review though. Thanks for sharing.
Bad transmission.
It’s a Hyundai what you think it is an Audi lol
No I definitely wouldn't compare it to a lesser brand such as Audi that ranks significantly less in reliability and dependability. It's a great car for being in the low $30's. People like me buy these cars because we're still growing in life and don't wanna spoil ourselves at 24 with Porsche 911s and Mercedes. I rather buy something in budget that I can afford to own and maintain with pocket change.
@@lifeofmike556 it’s a Hyundai what do u expect never had any issue with my Audi I will never drive a Korean car growing in life get a Honda or a Toyota never Hyundai or Kia.
@@Anonymous-mu5bl I don't care about the problems as it's covered under warranty anyway.
@@lifeofmike556 well my Audi to
Hey, you opted for the performance instead of nice interiors for similar price: Mazda CX-50, Honda
Quit bitchin and drive
What do you drive?
mine doesn’t do this. your transmission is fucked
Only a child would spend most of the video going on complaining about cosmetic things yet glosses over the transmission issue, which as a owner of the DCT Veloster turbo I can tell you the DCT is garbage and when I got my Veloster N I made sure to go back to the 6 speed Manual.
Is the veloster N a big upgrade in power compared to the veloster turbo? What I mean is if you can feel the difference?
I really want to get one because I like hatchbacks more than sedans. Probably the only thing I would miss is the power sunroof on the veloster turbo.
@@hakualex yes. I drive it in N mode custom all the time and you can feel the get up and go. The power isn’t the only thing. The steering is on point and can handle twisty roads really well. The turbo every time I get in and drive feels like a boat.
Yet another great reason why its great to NOT be american
Sounds like you have the transmission recall