Yeah I was found to buy one summer 2021 when it was supposed to come out. Glad in didn't wait and got a GTI. Sitting at 380-390 hp running low 12's on street tires.
@@YAsM-bk5kz there is some truth in your words, I notice my car empty fuel tank runs faster than full. I can feel it but full fuel tank is like 50 kg difference.
In the first two standing races Sam's reaction was slower than the GTI's driver. Sam's reaction for the second race was even slower than the first race, and you can see the result at the finish line. And in most of the angles shown the dig/start was cut out (except for the first angle of race 1 & 2). Each tenth of a second delay is a whole car length difference. Someone mentioned in the first race launch control wasn't even activated (no bouncing of the rev limiter).
@@jillthompson6110 he just needs someone with a good reaction time. The kona n is pretty close to the elantra n in performance, the kona just has a little more weight. I've seen multiple elantra n vs gti videos, and the en usually wins by car lengths. Idk how he manages to perform so badly and give us these skewed results lol but i really don't see the kona struggling here with a good driver
@@vroomgc - yeah very odd... maybe it has to do with aerodynamics. IDK. They both look like fun anyways. I would choose GTI or Elantra N just for the manual transmission. Can't wait for the GR Corolla. Have a great Monday!
This race makes zero sense, if you watch the Elantra vs GTI race it was no contest, then you watch this and the Kona cant keep up. Yet all evidience out on the web shows there is very little difference between the Kona and Elantra. And the gti is also rated slower over the 1/4 than the Kona. So there is a real mess to this outcome and especially as compared to the Elantras race. You can look at other youtube content to see what I'm talking about.
Definitely, and they never mention which traction control settings are used. I have a mk8 GTI and you can use ESC off or ESC sport for launch control, the latter limiting how much wheelspin which is better on lower grip pavement. The explanation for not using manual mode was completely evasive and incorrect as this would take shift/downshifts out of the equation and most dual clutches auto-upshift which would simplify things. I think this could be a good channel if they would rationalize their procedures instead of half-assing it.
Just by looking at the kona and the Elantra you can tell HUGE differences that would affect performance. Aerodynamics and ride height play a role just like horsepower and weight.
I watched the first drag race again and I'm pretty sure the tc was off which explains why the gti spun it's tires and then bogged, definitely not the fastest way to launch.
Could have made a cup of tea in the time it takes him to realise the race has started before he gets the car moving. If you are going to race cars at least do it with someone who can drive behind the wheel
@@roboticvenom1935 I’ve owned several GTI’s. Great car but that new infotainment is an absolute disaster. The Kona N is so much funner, way better exhaust notes, more raw and more adjustable to drive than any GTI and that’s what I look for in the hot hatch I drive.
Apparently they are still trying to find a train long enough to fit between the Golf R and Elantra on the dig race but as of yet no train in the world exists.
A nice thing about roll racing a DCT N, push the NGS button before staring the roll race. It will drop you to the optimum gear for your current speed, plus you get an extra 10hp as a bonus 😊
@@lexman8678I saw a test where it improved the 0-60 time by half a second so this is one of those cases where the marketing says 10hp but the reality is a bit better.
The weight isn't THAT much more, engine/trans are the same and tires are basically 1 size smaller but different make. I would still like to know the mileage on the KN because I've already seen KN vids of it running mid to low 13's.
I have seen a kona n outrun a 7.5 r and this result is the opposite of a dozen other videos I have seen. Man, there is something wrong with that kona n because this is not normal. Those kona n's consistantly put down 270-288 whp on the dyno's. For the people saying weight, it's only 30 pounds heavier then the elentra and aerodynamics don't affect much at these speeds. Where are the cracks and pops from the exhaust while your racing? One more thing, you say power to weight favors the gti but your wrong, do the math.
And 30 pounds difference between two cars aint making one stinkin difference. 30 pound difference is barely gonna make a difference on 2 people racing bicycles let alone two cars cracking out 280+ horsepower. Come on now.
so the elantra N gave this car bus lengths but the kona N isn't even close? I'm confused lol I know weight and aero are important but that much of a difference? in such a short race? something is off....I need to see the Elantra N vs the Kona N... i really doubt removing 50lbs and lowering the kona and replacing the tires would let it gap the gti as badly as the Elantra N did
Yeah something is definitely off with this, there is no way aerodynamics and weight make this much of a huge difference. I've raced GTis on the street in my Kona and pull on the top end so idk what was up with this ?
@@irockz9723 yea either that Elantra was tuned or something is wrong with that Kona N 50lbs and aero doesn’t even matter much cause the gti was pulling from the start we talking about the same engine same turbo and hearing the bs that it’s a suv is why it lost is stupid… even if u watch the videos of the Kona N vs Elantra N on that Korean TH-camr channel they were pretty much even on the straight
If anything the video of the Elentra N vs GTI makes no sense. Because this is actually the second race of the Kona N vs the GTI. And even on the other channel the GTI was pulling on the Kona N. The Elentra N races on this channel honestly make no sense. A type R on a roll beats a N. There is over 8 videos of Mk7 R vs type R and they are head to head on a roll, while the N puts 5 busses on the mk7 golf R?.
simply a bad driver in a good car. vs an experienced driver in the other...fools test...try testing with same driver on a timed 3run course in both cars...kona will win. weight to hp ratio is better in kona N. simply put. VW drivers will cry tonight as a cheaper car and in my opinion a better looking car overall wins. N performance for life! except when it comes to honda type R or any JDM
Race both the Elantra and Kona N. 40lbs difference, same engine and transmission. Should be close ... not according to the last videos I've seen on your channel.
Haha love these Hyundai fanboys , when elentra N wins they trash talk VW, when GTI wins against Kona N there goes the excuses like tires, aerodynamics and etc😅😅😅. So childish
I mean the Kona and the Elantra N's are different so yes that's stuff makes a difference. GTI definitely wins this one no question but the Elantra walked the GTI so it does go to show that variables DO make a difference.
I am not getting this video. Doesn't do justice to the Kona N. Take a look at the Elantra N vs MK8 Golf GTI. Doesn't make any sense ... Something is wrong here :(
To be honest with the kona n he lost the races already at the start because of his bad reaction time. I dont know if he could‘ve win but it would be way more close..
Well that's what I said on that last video but when the Golf R destroyed the Elantra N with the Owner driving the Golf R but the Hyundai mob tried to tell me I'm wrong even though I have a stock Golf R waiting for anyone with a Hyundai N to show me that I'll lose to them from a dig 😉 😀 😜
@@davidbarlow372 That's easy the reason is simply because Sam is not a good drag racer and for those cars to have such close horsepower do you really believe that with the Hyundai Elantra N spinning and the Golf R having that launch he was going to get caught. 😀 yeah right some was was obviously sand bagging look at the RPM in the Golf R barely get to redline from Second to third 🙄 or third to fourth. Like I said let the owners do three digs the Golf R will take all three with ease.
They didnt show the dash on the kona n. I have one and that car is way rowdier than they were showing. He didnt have it in n mode. Which changes the dash.
@@SamCarLegion currently own a KN and had an MK6 GTI (not implying it’s = to this new generation) but fairly familiar with both. The response off the line and lack of throttle was very apparent. Still appreciate this video and your channel! 🫡
The Kona was was very quiet, comma wasn't even in end mode because the exhaust was hardly audible? Also I am curious as to how many miles were on the Kona?
Lol the excuses. Go look at actual track times and dragy/vbox numbers. The Kona doesn’t impress as much as the Elantra does. Still impressive and quick, but it’s not going to trap 105 like the Gti
@@klasseact6663 All good and your point on how many miles were on that Kona is a point. I have watched many youtube races of the kona and elantra N's and they are pretty close in 0-60 and 1/4 times and thats why this race is another questionable one.
What happened to the Golf R? That would be a much better match up. I also would not have said the Golf R lost 🤔 yes it did in a roll but on a dig it clearly won by a few busses 🚌!
@@davidgriggs3967 I know it’s a GTI I guess I may have spoken to soon. I clearly overestimated the Kona N in this video. The Kona N seems to pretty quick but it certainly didn’t match up to the new GTI which only proves my point I highly doubt the Elantra N has a chance against the new Golf R!
I have a Kona N. Its so much fun to drive. 90 degree turns at 60 miles an hour is insane. Plus having the factory pops is always fun. Chose the Kona N over the GTI cuz of fun factor and that god aweful gti interior. Hate all the Haptic buttons.
But if you get a Kona N, they aren't without their issues. Mine is currently down because cylinder 1 injector went bad and it has less than 2000 miles on it. There are some issues others are having with it too, but im sure the GTI isn't without its problems
The 3rd gen EA888 (and gearbox) on my mk7 GTI has been bullet proof over the last 6.5 years of continuous daily abuse, only had to change the water pump under warranty due to a coolant leak which is pretty much the only common problem with mk7 GTIs, so I imagine the 4th iteration of the engine to be quite reliable given that it’s basically the same thing but with even stronger internals, I guess coolant leaks may be the main concern judging by the previous gen (which they claimed to have fixed, but we have to wait and see).
@@MrTARIQSs Sadly the MK8 has an issue with the radiator not being sealed properly and the shifter (for 6MT) popping off. I'm sure the next year model of the MK8 will be much more solid.
By the way I have the Kona and what happened here is because the heavy wheels Hyundai put on it, I did put after market wheels for winter and I was shocked when I saw change in car performance with it and for sure will beat the GTI with it
Nah the first roll he just wasn’t ready and didn’t really know what to expect but the second go around he was ready in that golf! I happen to be a huge fan of Hyundai too. I’m actually thinking about trading the Type R in.
MK8Golf R, golf Clubsport will both be faster than all of the Ns. It’s also kind of unfair to compare a baseline GTI to the top preformance cars of Hyundai. Clubsport and R should be compared. And no not the R that was on a platform from 10 years ago that doesn’t count either lol
The octane learning in the Kona holds it back if it’s not drivin right or doesn’t get ran on 91 or better it cuts power, I’ve been running higher octane in mine and it’s helped
@@Maljey thanks for that, is this a new thing? I don’t normally see things like this in normal traffic where I am. 🤔 It has like a matchbox car look to it.
@@SamCarLegion TH-cam ate my comment, I confirmed the Kona has the 20 second overboost and it looks to shave a good amount of 0-60 times. Would be cool to see some testing on that
I don´t know why the KONA loses nearly all those races here - On German dynos the KONA N kicks out a engine power of 305-309 hp !!! And with the DCT it should never lose a race with a Golf GTI !!!
this is odd. in the race with the mk8 gti vs the Elentra N the Elentra N destroyed the gti. but the gti was not shifting well after the launch, it bogged down every race. in this race when the GTI launched it did not bog at all. so something changed in the gti between that race and this one. i say that because i cant believe the GTI won this but got multi bus gapped with he elentra n
@@SamCarLegionlook in the mirror and you’ll see the idiot guy you’re to old for this give it up and hire somebody who actually knows what they’re doing, and has the slightest clue about the car they’re racing🤣🤣
Actually in automatic mode you have no clue whats happening and very little control in a rolling race situation. Simply select 2'nd gear for both cars and race from 50km/h. Not sure what could be easier than that.
The issue is sam, Different cars are tuned differently for their automatic mode. So for instance, an ELENTRA N will easily make more TQ and boost on automatic mode compared to a GTI. When you use manual mode you get to use the maximum power and TQ of the car in the right gear. The issue is people mess up yes, but it's much more of a fair race that way
I don’t like either brand, but you’ve got to let more experienced owners drive these cars to get their true potential. I know I know it’s all just for fun, but some of these viewers are taking this way to seriously
@@ronnymb67 yeah that’s what I’m on. Are people really having issues on these? Other than wearing down super fast they have been great. Edit: mine are Scorpion Zeros. It’s possible these are a different variation that isn’t as good?
Solid matchup. 5.1 seconds is the best 0-60 time I've seen for both cars. The GTi owner in this video is more familiar with his car, so I think that gave him the edge during the launch. Sam doesn't know the best rpm to set the launch control to in the Kona because he hasn't driven it a lot. That's the only difference I can think of. Was fun to watch. Thank you!
@@SamCarLegion I'm confused. You stated you have new tarmac. The rpm's in the Kona N can be set to whatever you'd like. Are you telling me that you drove the car enough to know the best launch settings based on the traction conditions? Not sure why that is rubbish. Both cars are great, but little nuances like that will tilt the scale just enough to provide the results they did.
@@flyin18t I have driven the Kona N around the track, I have done probably 12-15 launches, I drove in California around the track we did, many launch control tests, I have done a bunch of drags with it. The day we did these videos, we do test runs, to see how the cars run before we hit record. So please stop talking bs.
@@SamCarLegion Thank you for clarifying. That info is very helpful to the viewer that may not be aware of it. Maybe mention this in the videos. Not sure why you're so hostile. Also not sure how I could have phrased my comment differently to not set you off. Thank you again for a solid video.
The Kona still has the power to weight ratio advantage. I notice the Kona driver's reaction time is no better than the Golf's driver which can spell the difference. Also, the gear ratios, including the final one, can also influence the result. A 0.32 vs 0.31 drag coefficient is not significant enough to influence at 100 mph or so.
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Watch the Kona N fans become the Golf GTI sore fans 😂
next time you should drive both cars, one dig and one roll each.
@@bearpaw9150 next time you shouldn’t cry in the live chat 😂
@@F80mthree umm no one's crying maroon, just stating facts.
@@bearpaw9150 - LOL @ maroon
Sir what's the point of racing a car with 245 hp to 276 hp you know damn well if It was the clubsport there with 300 hp you will get smoked.
The Kona N shouldn’t even be possible in times like these. But thank God Hyundai went through with it.
Yeah I was found to buy one summer 2021 when it was supposed to come out. Glad in didn't wait and got a GTI. Sitting at 380-390 hp running low 12's on street tires.
Sam losing 3 of the 4 races, not surprised 😏 if he was in the GTi the Kona would have won most of the races haha
He’s really slow to react
Add to this the driver's weight.
@@YAsM-bk5kz 20-30 kg between derivers make no difference
@@oleglog6927
It makes brtother. ... Gtr nesmo is less weight than the standard Gtr 30kg and the difference is 200,000 dollars and makes 30hp extra.
@@YAsM-bk5kz there is some truth in your words, I notice my car empty fuel tank runs faster than full. I can feel it but full fuel tank is like 50 kg difference.
In the first two standing races Sam's reaction was slower than the GTI's driver. Sam's reaction for the second race was even slower than the first race, and you can see the result at the finish line. And in most of the angles shown the dig/start was cut out (except for the first angle of race 1 & 2). Each tenth of a second delay is a whole car length difference. Someone mentioned in the first race launch control wasn't even activated (no bouncing of the rev limiter).
Yep, noticed that with his Elantra N video too.
he gets the best cars for comparison, but he can't drive lol he needs another driver
@@jessizzle5575 His problem is he talks too much and his attention is always on the other car that's racing him. He needs to focus on his own driving.
@@jillthompson6110 he just needs someone with a good reaction time. The kona n is pretty close to the elantra n in performance, the kona just has a little more weight. I've seen multiple elantra n vs gti videos, and the en usually wins by car lengths. Idk how he manages to perform so badly and give us these skewed results lol but i really don't see the kona struggling here with a good driver
Enjoy the channel but it is kind of frustrating to see such unequal starts from a dig.
I’d bet money the Kona wasn’t on fuel learn. So probably only 15-16 pounds of boost
Yes exactly. It's a big difference!
What does that mean?
@@nikolawandler939914-15 psi of boost not learn and 18-19 psi of boost when learned it make a little difference
@@cedricbourgoin1406 the car can learn? can you please explain it?
@@shitdie-w7othe dyno showed its a 30 whp difference.
Woohoo, thank you for showing more Kona N drag races!
First run launch control was not active on the Kona N, you didn’t hear it bouncing the limiter like the second run
still failed
If only the Kona N was AWD it would be the perfect winter car for me.
Same
If it was AWD I guess it would be a Golf R competitor. FWIW I think the GTI may squeak a win. Will be interesting nonetheless.
Yup they missed the mark. AWD would've sold a LOT of Konas
@@MikeKonkle Wrong this race is not how they are rated. The Kona is rated and proven by many other videos on youtube to be faster than the gti
@@vroomgc - yeah very odd... maybe it has to do with aerodynamics. IDK. They both look like fun anyways. I would choose GTI or Elantra N just for the manual transmission. Can't wait for the GR Corolla. Have a great Monday!
The Kona N would decimate a GTI on racetrack. Check out the Car & Driver Lightning Lap results. The Kona is very quick.
This race makes zero sense, if you watch the Elantra vs GTI race it was no contest, then you watch this and the Kona cant keep up. Yet all evidience out on the web shows there is very little difference between the Kona and Elantra. And the gti is also rated slower over the 1/4 than the Kona. So there is a real mess to this outcome and especially as compared to the Elantras race. You can look at other youtube content to see what I'm talking about.
Definitely, and they never mention which traction control settings are used. I have a mk8 GTI and you can use ESC off or ESC sport for launch control, the latter limiting how much wheelspin which is better on lower grip pavement. The explanation for not using manual mode was completely evasive and incorrect as this would take shift/downshifts out of the equation and most dual clutches auto-upshift which would simplify things. I think this could be a good channel if they would rationalize their procedures instead of half-assing it.
Same goes for mk7.5 golf r losing to Elantra n, makes no sense, I’m actually wonder if that EN was tuned.
Just by looking at the kona and the Elantra you can tell HUGE differences that would affect performance. Aerodynamics and ride height play a role just like horsepower and weight.
@@keving5286 Yeah, if you look at quarter mile times for both they're not even close, roll races should be close though.
I watched the first drag race again and I'm pretty sure the tc was off which explains why the gti spun it's tires and then bogged, definitely not the fastest way to launch.
Could have made a cup of tea in the time it takes him to realise the race has started before he gets the car moving. If you are going to race cars at least do it with someone who can drive behind the wheel
lol just wrong Driving on Kona N here ... i own a Kona N myself and i blowed away already some GTI's ...
Sam cant launch that Kona N for his life!!!!
The Kona is my favorite little SUV it’s so cute ☺️
Own one it’s fantastic.
@@drumflip1253 it's a worse gti
@@roboticvenom1935 I’ve owned several GTI’s. Great car but that new infotainment is an absolute disaster. The Kona N is so much funner, way better exhaust notes, more raw and more adjustable to drive than any GTI and that’s what I look for in the hot hatch I drive.
@@roboticvenom1935 wayyyyyyyy better warranty then a GTI tho lol
Apparently VW paid you 10M to show this race after the MK7 R got spanked
Wrong, it was 12 million
@@SamCarLegion using that dieselgate money dang
Apparently they are still trying to find a train long enough to fit between the Golf R and Elantra on the dig race but as of yet no train in the world exists.
@@Buck3366 I'm a VW fan but I can appreciate a good joke when it comes along. I have an IS38 GLI and I pity the EN that wants to play on the highway.
MK8 Golf R will destroy the Elantra 😂😂
Kona N looks like fun, but dealers want $5k over sticker in the US for them. Ridiculous!
I got mine at MSRP in Ontario Canada
@@vroomgc this isn’t common at all, but good for you.
I fought the dealer… they brought it down to 2500 but included ceramic coating and extended warranty. Bought in california too
A nice thing about roll racing a DCT N, push the NGS button before staring the roll race. It will drop you to the optimum gear for your current speed, plus you get an extra 10hp as a bonus 😊
Stop making up excuses lol 10 hp what a joke lol
@@lexman8678 lol. I am not making excuses at all. I am just stating a fact on how the dct in an N car can be operated. 🤷🏻♂️
@@lexman8678I saw a test where it improved the 0-60 time by half a second so this is one of those cases where the marketing says 10hp but the reality is a bit better.
@@lexman8678 just read what he's saying and be educated, you'll be alright🤔
@@S8ER 0-60 is fully dependent on the launch.
On the track, the Kona N beat the GTI by 5 seconds! Check car and driver. That is what the car was built for.
That guy can't drive
This is interesting! Elantra took out the GTI no sweat but the Kona N seems to be a totally different story.
No way, Captain Obvious!
The weight isn't THAT much more, engine/trans are the same and tires are basically 1 size smaller but different make. I would still like to know the mileage on the KN because I've already seen KN vids of it running mid to low 13's.
@@ytsux9259 lol he thought he did something 😂
Nope it comes down to something smells wrong ;)
Dang u guys are harsh. Went ahead and fixed it.
You should be swapping drivers to eliminate driver variance
As a Kona N owner, I refuse to believe what I saw. Lol!
GTI is put together better no doubt, much better aftermarket support as well
My gut tells me this was not handled correctly. They need to start switching cars for the second run.
Same here. Is it just me or does anyone else that owns a Kona feel this Kona was slow compared to ours lol 🤷🏻♂️
@@ericr954ya they probably ran it in eco mode lol
So the Elantra N can beat a mk7 golf R but the kona N cant beat a mk8 gti 🤔
Really? Did they do that race?
Video please!
@@drewthrower4509yes on this channel
@@lukemothugyes on this channel
Pound by pound can't compete with German engineering
I have seen a kona n outrun a 7.5 r and this result is the opposite of a dozen other videos I have seen. Man, there is something wrong with that kona n because this is not normal. Those kona n's consistantly put down 270-288 whp on the dyno's. For the people saying weight, it's only 30 pounds heavier then the elentra and aerodynamics don't affect much at these speeds. Where are the cracks and pops from the exhaust while your racing? One more thing, you say power to weight favors the gti but your wrong, do the math.
And 30 pounds difference between two cars aint making one stinkin difference. 30 pound difference is barely gonna make a difference on 2 people racing bicycles let alone two cars cracking out 280+ horsepower. Come on now.
dude golf R's are generally faster.. this channel featured a SLOW golf r against the elantra N and a SLOW kona N vs this GTI.. both results are off
probably on low octane fuel so its probably 15psi boost instead of the peak 20psi
so the elantra N gave this car bus lengths but the kona N isn't even close? I'm confused lol I know weight and aero are important but that much of a difference? in such a short race? something is off....I need to see the Elantra N vs the Kona N... i really doubt removing 50lbs and lowering the kona and replacing the tires would let it gap the gti as badly as the Elantra N did
Yeah something is definitely off with this, there is no way aerodynamics and weight make this much of a huge difference. I've raced GTis on the street in my Kona and pull on the top end so idk what was up with this ?
@@irockz9723 yea either that Elantra was tuned or something is wrong with that Kona N 50lbs and aero doesn’t even matter much cause the gti was pulling from the start we talking about the same engine same turbo and hearing the bs that it’s a suv is why it lost is stupid… even if u watch the videos of the Kona N vs Elantra N on that Korean TH-camr channel they were pretty much even on the straight
@@DriverJ-N The Elantra was tuned.
If anything the video of the Elentra N vs GTI makes no sense. Because this is actually the second race of the Kona N vs the GTI. And even on the other channel the GTI was pulling on the Kona N. The Elentra N races on this channel honestly make no sense. A type R on a roll beats a N. There is over 8 videos of Mk7 R vs type R and they are head to head on a roll, while the N puts 5 busses on the mk7 golf R?.
I can already tell you that the kona N was not on N mode based on the exhasut sound and no pops and bangs alone
Pretty slow reaction by the Kona driver. The race between these two vehicles is decided by the driver due to their being so closely matched.
simply a bad driver in a good car. vs an experienced driver in the other...fools test...try testing with same driver on a timed 3run course in both cars...kona will win. weight to hp ratio is better in kona N. simply put. VW drivers will cry tonight as a cheaper car and in my opinion a better looking car overall wins. N performance for life! except when it comes to honda type R or any JDM
Race both the Elantra and Kona N. 40lbs difference, same engine and transmission. Should be close ... not according to the last videos I've seen on your channel.
the elantra as more power look at the gti video
@@elmosiboire9037 it's the same exact drivetrain
@@jagerking7020 You are right, but why is the Kona N much slower?
@@elmosiboire9037 They both have the same engine and bhp???
@@rickyb232 not the same psi weight and torque
Haha love these Hyundai fanboys , when elentra N wins they trash talk VW, when GTI wins against Kona N there goes the excuses like tires, aerodynamics and etc😅😅😅. So childish
I mean the Kona and the Elantra N's are different so yes that's stuff makes a difference. GTI definitely wins this one no question but the Elantra walked the GTI so it does go to show that variables DO make a difference.
Agreed, they are insufferable
In the end it's still a junk Korean car that sounds like a tin can when you close the door.
I agree, where were these fanboys in the 90s/2000s fanboying over Hyundais? 😂
Extremely edgy community. They wanna be taken seriously. Lol
In other words just buy the elantra N my dudes
Nope, the difference between the Kona and Elantra is very very little. Aside from Sams video which are questionable, go look it up
@@vroomgc suuper questionable 😂
@@vroomgc trippin, theres a significant difference between elantra and that suv thing kona smh
100% questionable, especially the EN vs golf r video, literally every video outside of sam’s speaks otherwise. Anyone wonder why?
@@keving5286 were just haters I guess. The under-powered fwd beats the faster awd car. It only makes sense!
Hyundai/Kia launch control is pretty notorious for having a delay and not building boost. There's a reason all the fastest Stingers don't use it.
sad to see it get pulled on the roll race though..
@@roboticvenom1935 Aero really takes it's toll on SUVs...
I am not getting this video. Doesn't do justice to the Kona N. Take a look at the Elantra N vs MK8 Golf GTI. Doesn't make any sense ... Something is wrong here :(
Only reason the Kona lost the drag races were due to your reaction times 🤣🤣
When WE launched those cars always KONA WIN the race. You are doing something wrong...
Dude driving the Kona has the slowest reaction I’ve ever seen lol dude can’t film and race he’s not like that dude from car wow
To be honest with the kona n he lost the races already at the start because of his bad reaction time. I dont know if he could‘ve win but it would be way more close..
reaction time is a full second " this is heavier that's why" absolute nonce driving the kona.
Gti jumped the start or you were slow…. It’s not because it’s heavy…. 4:20 & 5:30
The man was sleeping 😴
need to learn how to drive it lil better cuz the kona should be way closer if not win
EN vs KN please and thanks Sam. With a good launch on both.
They’re both good cars. Can’t go wrong with either one.
Just bought mine last week. 2k over but included ceramic coating, and 10 year 100k warranty
Exactly.
Not surprised at all. Whoever drove the Kona sucks. Bad.
I like that this channel drag races everything they can get their hands on lol.
(N Grin Shift), over boost). 👍🏼😉
💪🏻😎
He doesn't know how to launch the Kona N
Why ruin the results in the intro?
Driver mod needed. Put Matt from #CarWow in the Kona, it changed everything.
The golf R will do this to the Elentra N
Well that's what I said on that last video but when the Golf R destroyed the Elantra N with the Owner driving the Golf R but the Hyundai mob tried to tell me I'm wrong even though I have a stock Golf R waiting for anyone with a Hyundai N to show me that I'll lose to them from a dig 😉 😀 😜
@@nascarnord2278 lol what happened in the first race....you seem to have left that out......no Excuses now
@@davidbarlow372 That's easy the reason is simply because Sam is not a good drag racer and for those cars to have such close horsepower do you really believe that with the Hyundai Elantra N spinning and the Golf R having that launch he was going to get caught. 😀 yeah right some was was obviously sand bagging look at the RPM in the Golf R barely get to redline from Second to third 🙄 or third to fourth. Like I said let the owners do three digs the Golf R will take all three with ease.
@@nascarnord2278 Thats what the R is about. I have an S3 I will welcome any N as well.
The race EN vs Golf R actually the Elantra N won. Just check the video.
It’s a Hyundai .. that’s why .. 🤣🤪
They didnt show the dash on the kona n. I have one and that car is way rowdier than they were showing. He didnt have it in n mode. Which changes the dash.
Launch control with handbrake on 😅
Sam needs a lesson in properly using the launch control ☠️
You need a lesson on drag racing. Did you just expect the Kona N to win? That shows your ignorance about cars and racing. Cheers
@@SamCarLegion currently own a KN and had an MK6 GTI (not implying it’s = to this new generation) but fairly familiar with both. The response off the line and lack of throttle was very apparent. Still appreciate this video and your channel! 🫡
This race was a joke.
Like my life
Spot the gtr and bmw's in the back, a race between them is coming?
actually shocked... how is the elantra N so much faster against the GTI lol.
Aerodynamics and weight
even more so, the R
Some say Elantra has slightly bigger turbo, and different tune, more aggressive. Also weight and aero play a big part.
@@pokest225 elantraN and konaN use the same turbocharger.When tested in Korea, the performance of the two vehicles was almost the same up to 200km/h.
@@Corner_rascal manual or dct?
Elantra dct seems a lot faster than manual.
Watching this test elantra looks a lot faster than kona.
I guess everything is logical as for race between an SUV and Hatchback...🤷♀️
but they're the essentially the same space wise..
I've never considered Kona N to be a SUV. It definitely favors a traditional hatchback > SUV.
For N, do you fill premium gas with high Octane number? N has different PS with different fuel.
The Kona was was very quiet, comma wasn't even in end mode because the exhaust was hardly audible? Also I am curious as to how many miles were on the Kona?
Exactly, this race was not how the cars compare so something was not right
Lol the excuses. Go look at actual track times and dragy/vbox numbers. The Kona doesn’t impress as much as the Elantra does. Still impressive and quick, but it’s not going to trap 105 like the Gti
@@PapiAndrey Nobody is making excuses as there are Kona's on TH-cam trapping at a 105 miles an hour plus.
Sorry about my talk to txt message but I'm sure most got the point🤔😋
@@klasseact6663 All good and your point on how many miles were on that Kona is a point. I have watched many youtube races of the kona and elantra N's and they are pretty close in 0-60 and 1/4 times and thats why this race is another questionable one.
What happened to the Golf R? That would be a much better match up. I also would not have said the Golf R lost 🤔 yes it did in a roll but on a dig it clearly won by a few busses 🚌!
How would that be a better match up , R is awd ?
Ps the VW in video is a gti btw
@@davidgriggs3967 I know it’s a GTI I guess I may have spoken to soon. I clearly overestimated the Kona N in this video. The Kona N seems to pretty quick but it certainly didn’t match up to the new GTI which only proves my point I highly doubt the Elantra N has a chance against the new Golf R!
@@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 didnt do so bad.
I love watching you race, Sam! You get So excited! Just like I do when I race someone!!!
And very slow to react 😂😂
I'm about to buy/lease, and these are the EXACT two cars I'm considering - perfect matchup!
I have a Kona N. Its so much fun to drive. 90 degree turns at 60 miles an hour is insane. Plus having the factory pops is always fun. Chose the Kona N over the GTI cuz of fun factor and that god aweful gti interior. Hate all the Haptic buttons.
But if you get a Kona N, they aren't without their issues. Mine is currently down because cylinder 1 injector went bad and it has less than 2000 miles on it. There are some issues others are having with it too, but im sure the GTI isn't without its problems
The 3rd gen EA888 (and gearbox) on my mk7 GTI has been bullet proof over the last 6.5 years of continuous daily abuse, only had to change the water pump under warranty due to a coolant leak which is pretty much the only common problem with mk7 GTIs, so I imagine the 4th iteration of the engine to be quite reliable given that it’s basically the same thing but with even stronger internals, I guess coolant leaks may be the main concern judging by the previous gen (which they claimed to have fixed, but we have to wait and see).
@@MrTARIQSs Sadly the MK8 has an issue with the radiator not being sealed properly and the shifter (for 6MT) popping off. I'm sure the next year model of the MK8 will be much more solid.
man why you always lose
By the way I have the Kona and what happened here is because the heavy wheels Hyundai put on it, I did put after market wheels for winter and I was shocked when I saw change in car performance with it and for sure will beat the GTI with it
Follow-up question... Did you time these runs? Would be interesting to know the gaps. Thank you!
Unfortunately GPS dragy doesn’t work there
@@SamCarLegion Got it. Thank you again.
Just a heads up in case I haven't posted it here. It's possible the ECU detuned the Kona depending how it was driven and when it was refueled.
No..No...No...Monicaaaaaa.....😂😅
Nah the first roll he just wasn’t ready and didn’t really know what to expect but the second go around he was ready in that golf! I happen to be a huge fan of Hyundai too. I’m actually thinking about trading the Type R in.
MK8Golf R, golf Clubsport will both be faster than all of the Ns. It’s also kind of unfair to compare a baseline GTI to the top preformance cars of Hyundai. Clubsport and R should be compared. And no not the R that was on a platform from 10 years ago that doesn’t count either lol
@@ruthlessruth846 agreed
The octane learning in the Kona holds it back if it’s not drivin right or doesn’t get ran on 91 or better it cuts power, I’ve been running higher octane in mine and it’s helped
He’s not driving the car right I own one he didn’t even have launch on and his reaction is slow, I’ve kept up with scat packs cars got more then this
This guy already has a reputation for not being able to drive lol. The car he is driving will always lose lol.
Learn to drive
That Kona looks too much like a CRV for me. It’s not really a car and not really an SUV. What is it?
It's really just a slightly taller hot hatch.
@@Maljey thanks for that, is this a new thing? I don’t normally see things like this in normal traffic where I am. 🤔 It has like a matchbox car look to it.
Sam do you know if the N mode has an overboost option on it? I read something about an over boost mode on at least one of the N line cars.
It has an N grin button
@@SamCarLegion TH-cam ate my comment, I confirmed the Kona has the 20 second overboost and it looks to shave a good amount of 0-60 times. Would be cool to see some testing on that
I don´t know why the KONA loses nearly all those races here - On German dynos the KONA N kicks out a engine power of 305-309 hp !!!
And with the DCT it should never lose a race with a Golf GTI !!!
this is odd. in the race with the mk8 gti vs the Elentra N the Elentra N destroyed the gti. but the gti was not shifting well after the launch, it bogged down every race. in this race when the GTI launched it did not bog at all. so something changed in the gti between that race and this one. i say that because i cant believe the GTI won this but got multi bus gapped with he elentra n
Does this guy know how bad his reaction time is?
Only an idiot would think the N had a chance, but then again, we need idiots
@@SamCarLegionlook in the mirror and you’ll see the idiot guy you’re to old for this give it up and hire somebody who actually knows what they’re doing, and has the slightest clue about the car they’re racing🤣🤣
Y’all shouldn’t do reviews on sports cars
Y’all are 100% qualified to drive a family van doe.
Learn how to do a legit comparison
I am glad you liked your own comment 🤣
@@SamCarLegion thanks
@@stef4862 why did you remove your like? 🫤. It’s nice to see you love yourself even online.
@@SamCarLegion lol what my like is clearly their
But you foot on the clutch at the right moments is not 🤣
@@stef4862 didn’t know that automatics had a clutch pedal. I guess I learned something new
Kona N has nowhere as slippery a shape as GTI and therefore suffers at higher speeds where aerodynamic becomes crucial.
The N hands down.
Are you sure? I won't spoil it for you.
Nah…
Kona smokes it
I think Sam doesn’t like Hyundai and Kia lol I hope he drive other brands if Hyundai vs.
Actually in automatic mode you have no clue whats happening and very little control in a rolling race situation. Simply select 2'nd gear for both cars and race from 50km/h. Not sure what could be easier than that.
The issue is sam, Different cars are tuned differently for their automatic mode. So for instance, an ELENTRA N will easily make more TQ and boost on automatic mode compared to a GTI. When you use manual mode you get to use the maximum power and TQ of the car in the right gear. The issue is people mess up yes, but it's much more of a fair race that way
sam is not a car person. hes a boomer reviewing new cars with technologies beyond his grasp
Sam...get yourself a LG cup of coffee from Tim Horton's before all races🙏🛎💡
Technically the Kona has .08hp/lb where the GTI has .07hp/lb. Sooo typical Germans lying about their horsepower 🤣
Just like the koreans with the elantra🤭🤭
@@cartesan definitely! That thing moves!
I don’t like either brand, but you’ve got to let more experienced owners drive these cars to get their true potential. I know I know it’s all just for fun, but some of these viewers are taking this way to seriously
I have another excuse for the Kona N, the tires 😂
P zero vs the ps4s on the Elantra N.
Legit...
I had P Zero All-Seasons on my car. Swapped them for the PS4S in the first month.
I run P Zeros on my DDHC and I can do 0-60 in 3.4 on them. I wouldn’t exactly consider P Zeros to be a weak point.
@@S8ER
Sorry I should have been clear. P Zero All-Seasons which the Kona also comes on.
@@ronnymb67 yeah that’s what I’m on. Are people really having issues on these? Other than wearing down super fast they have been great.
Edit: mine are Scorpion Zeros. It’s possible these are a different variation that isn’t as good?
@@S8ER
Definitely different. The Scorpion is an suv tire so I'm probably safe in assuming that you're driving some type of hot rod SUV at 3.4 seconds.
CAR on TH-cam did the same test and the Kona N won
Solid matchup. 5.1 seconds is the best 0-60 time I've seen for both cars. The GTi owner in this video is more familiar with his car, so I think that gave him the edge during the launch. Sam doesn't know the best rpm to set the launch control to in the Kona because he hasn't driven it a lot. That's the only difference I can think of. Was fun to watch. Thank you!
What a load of rubbish
@@SamCarLegion I'm confused. You stated you have new tarmac. The rpm's in the Kona N can be set to whatever you'd like. Are you telling me that you drove the car enough to know the best launch settings based on the traction conditions? Not sure why that is rubbish. Both cars are great, but little nuances like that will tilt the scale just enough to provide the results they did.
@@flyin18t I have driven the Kona N around the track, I have done probably 12-15 launches, I drove in California around the track we did, many launch control tests, I have done a bunch of drags with it. The day we did these videos, we do test runs, to see how the cars run before we hit record. So please stop talking bs.
@@SamCarLegion Thank you for clarifying. That info is very helpful to the viewer that may not be aware of it. Maybe mention this in the videos. Not sure why you're so hostile. Also not sure how I could have phrased my comment differently to not set you off. Thank you again for a solid video.
@@flyin18t I am sorry I came off a bit rude, but it sounded like you were questioning my abilities. Thanks for the feedback
No way the gti is stock
Bone stock. Gti is equal or a bit faster than KONA N. German legendary car baby, KONA is cute but just a Korean knockoff of a German car.
Love you videos ,joy to watch them
It’s a shame, you can’t compare a Volkswagen whit a Hyundai
Korean car doesn’t hold a candle to a gti gti is solid Korean car is a tin can
Fastback is way faster; its on GTI CS Level 👍
Launch control in the GTI seemed much better in this video than the one vs the Elantra N. What traction mode were you using?
The Kona still has the power to weight ratio advantage. I notice the Kona driver's reaction time is no better than the Golf's driver which can spell the difference. Also, the gear ratios, including the final one, can also influence the result. A 0.32 vs 0.31 drag coefficient is not significant enough to influence at 100 mph or so.
Mk8 mqb platform will always be superior.
That Kona was on cheap gas, it would have gapped if it was on 93.
awsome video... horrible driving. not saying i could do any better tho
Interesting race ..Sam...Let's the Ford Mach E vs Tesla model Y soon. That would be a great match up!
Kona N vs Accord 2.0T would be interesting.
already done. KN smoked it.
@@gionieves2646 It had lightweight wheels and I think it was tuned )))
@@Eugen-E not tuned. Only difference was the tires. Was probably octane learned 91-93 Octane 18 PSI instead of 15 not octane learned.