Actually I think its the other way, and I'll tell you why: Niko kills Darko because he doesn't know better about revenge yet, and because Roman was ok with it, more or less. But I think Niko would have done for Roman and worked with Dimitri, like Roman asked. Especially since Niko had already taken his revenge on Darko, and now understands it's pointless. He kills Dimitri in the end, not because of revenge, but because Dimitri proves how dangerous he is when he attempts to have Niko killed and Roman is killed instead.
biological family and relatives are not replacable because they came from your flesh and blood by reproductive of natural offspring birth, if your partner dies you can always find another one to replace
That’s very interesting. I thought the Revenge ending was the real ending after playing both endings back in 2008. There was just something about the ending that made me think that was the way the game really ended. GTA V pretty much confirms this with seeing Niko’s Life Invader profile, where we can see Roman has an account as well. Also the way Packie talks about his life back in Liberty City in GTA V, it makes me think Kate died. Basically he was all his mom had left and she probably died between IV and V, so he moved out west after she passed. This was a cool theory Zac. Thanks for putting it forward.
@@IMNTV There's evidence Niko moved to San Andreas sometime after. I'd like to think sometime after 2013, Niko decided to move back to Serbia, bought a house in an upper class area of Belgrade, and spent his mother's last years with her.
It's the real ending cuz in GTA IV "The ballad of gay Tony" someone says "Dimitri has died" something like that i don't remember to good 'cause haven't played for a long time
My therapist: Roman, Mallorie and their child don’t exist with Roman and Mallorie having a photoshopped smile. Roman, Mallorie and their child with Roman and Mallorie having a photoshopped smile:
if you listen to Bulgarin's henchmen's dialog in TBOGT, they will say some about Dimitri being dead and if IV and TBOGT's endings happen at the same time, that would mean Revenge is canon
4 all y'all asking, the Revenge IS THE REAL DEAL. It is noticed in TBOGT that in the final mission, Timur one of Bulgarin's stooges said and I quote: " Now Rascalov is dead, we have sole claim to the junk." Indicating that choosing The Revenge, it is THE TRUE ENDING.
recently played this amazing game again, did both endings, ive noticed with the deal ending right at the end the camera shows us the back of the statue of happiness and is rainning whilst the revenge ending shows us the front of the statue and its sunny. know this isnt clear proof but logically it helps the cause of the revenge ending is the true ending.
The plume of smoke easily tells us that Revenge is canon ending, so for Deal choosers, think again. Niko would not risk the chance of losing his cousin when Dimitri betrayed him. He would go to the Platypus and kill Dimitri, end of. Also, Deal cannot, in any way, become canon, because Timur stated that "Rascalov is dead". So Dimitri was canonically killed before the events of Departure Time. Meanwhile, if Out of Commision and Departure Time happened at the same time, then Party's Over must have taken place the same time as Mr. & Mrs. Bellic. Pegorino kills Kate in the wedding while Bulgarin sends some Russians over to Maisonette 9 to get Luis and Tony killed. Between Mr. & Mrs. Bellic (Revenge) & Party's Over, it was both a difficult time for Niko and Luis. But ZacCoxTV, please change your thumbnail, because it looks frightening to most viewers.
we all do agree that revenge the canon ending, there are still other hints that has never been mention in this video * the men that niko is chasing to the abandoned house in the top of alderney island, in deal ending it would still say it was still the men of pegorino which was told in one of those 2 men dialogue before riding a huxley suv * kate will just toss away niko like a trash abandoning him in the time where he needs someone after roman dies in his wedding indicating that niko lost 2 instead of just one compared to the other ending add: the wedding assassin survives the gta 4 events if the revenge ending is canon
Right as you speak about Roman Bellic, I am literally playing this game all over again while getting to the part where me and Roman are now friends who can hang out and go bowling together
i went with the revenge route and went for dimitri, 1: the way he screwed over niko, 2: i hated dimitri from the start of the game. but when pegorino shot kate i really felt niko's anger and pain, i senced he wanted revenge on him
The revenge ending is the real ending to gta 4 because Kate’s death can be heard on weasel news and also the revenge ending kinda features the ending to the ballad of gay tony in the background and Roman’s death isn’t reported on weasel news
Another piece of evidence was that the Express Car Service depot was repaired by the time GTA: Chinatown Wars took place, which was set in 2009. By then, Roman must have repaired that garage, and it was in service. Additionally, Niko was just an employee of the company, not the owner, so Roman must have still been running things by then. If you go on any GTA community the "Deal" ending is hated and Kate is an especially hated character. I think Rockstar listened to the community and unofficially confirmed Revenge as canon.
All your points put forward about events in GTA IV actually point to the Deal ending being canon. Whether you kill Darko or not, Niko realises that revenge is the option and doesn't make him feel any better. Niko went to LC to escape his past and live a life that wasn't about crime and killing. The idea that he tries to make a real change by opting for the deal, which is what Roman asks him to do so they can move on with life and have the money to do so, this just makes more sense. Not only that, but the Deal ending is also the most fitting for Niko's story. It's a bitter sweet ending. He got revenge for Romans death, but that fact that Roman, his only family in LC is now dead takes away from his apparent victory. Everything about GTA IV has to do with Niko and his quest for revenge. He finds out that revenge doesn't solve his problems, so in the end he opts to put the past behind him, which ultimately gets his cousin killed. And as for the GTA V easter egg with the "Happy Birthday, Roman" post. Easily a memorial post, even if it doesn't have RIP. Also, notice that Mallorie is shown under friends and not family(wouldn't she be family if Roman were alive and married to her?) and that she doesn't have Bellic as her surname.
I agree that the deal ending should be canon. Not only does it fit with the tone of gta 4 better but Dimitri makes for a WAY better final boss than Pegerino
The Fans may not like this but the true ending to GTA 4 is even more depressing. Unlike other games if someone gets the option to die in GTA they either die then or die before the next game. Niko kills Darko and still feels empty. Kate and Roman both die at the wedding. Niko gets his revenge on Dimitri and is left with nothing.
3:28 I love that we’re on the GTA IV topic considering that I went back on this game and started all over again and I’m currently in mission 84👌🏼 6:20 I was just about to mention that lol
Can you imagine if at the beginning of GTA 6, it just starts off with a female protagonist and you play through the first mission nameless but then someone asks her name and she just says "Kate Bellic". Would be a cool way of expanding on GTA 4 's story past Roman and Niko, and confirming that Roman is alive
The explosion is the fire that the helicopter made when Pegorino shoots Niko in the chopper. But anyways, the Revenge Ending is considered the canon ending, even tho i like more the Deal Ending. Sorry if i have bad English, im Spanish and i dont like using the google translator so i have to use my poor skills.
All evidence for Revenge being canon: - In GTA CW (set around 2009), you can find that Express Car Service, which was previously set on fire, has been rebuilt. - In Departure Time, shortly before Luis attacks Funland, Timur will mention say "Now Rascalov is dead, we have sole claim to the junk", and the only way Dimitri would have died that long after the diamonds were lost is if Revenge is picked. - The plane crash being visible behind Niko while Pegorino succumbs to his wounds. This matches up perfectly with the timeline, as Dimitri was already dead. - Tavell's comment on Roman's Taxi Company. This means the company is still active and has been renamed. - Niko's LifeInvader profile, which shows that Roman is still active on LifeInvader.
If Kate was alive why would packie leave to Los Santos?also I think packie mentions his whole family is dead or in prison that also confirms revenge is the real ending.i think he mentions it on the paleto bay heist
Tho not confirmed, I can't imagine the mother living too long after losing 3 of her kids, 2 dead and one in prison. However, if Gerald broke out when the Lost broke in to murder Clay then it's likely Packie was trying to help Gerald get as far away from Liberty City as possible
@@FoxMcFly85 actually that theory can't make any sense because if you think about it packie is seen going to Los Santos immediately at the end of ballad of gay tony, how would packie help Gerald escape if that already happened and hes already on his way to Los Santos
@@SSJ2KENNELS as a person who grew up in an irish family, I can tell you you'd have better luck fighting the sun from rising than convincing an elderly irish woman to leave a house she lived in for X amount of years and raised a family in to move to the heat stroke and skin cancer capital of the world lol. If I had to venture a guess why Packie wouldn't mention Gerald, maybe cuz Gerald was hiding in Mexico and Packie was in LA (Los Santos) making moves to send him money
@@SSJ2KENNELS the end of The Lost and Damned takes place before the end of Ballad of Gay Tony. Tho the stories intersect, TLaD takes place during the first half of GTA 4, while TBoGT during the last half. We see Packie heading to the airport, but we don't have an exact time frame of when it took place. We do know for sure his mom had 2 surviving children: Packie and either Derrick or Francis (I, personally, think Francis). If she didn't immediately die of a broken heart of losing so many kids in such a fast succession, she's still got one kid to lean on, so Packie can just do his thing for a while
You also forgot to say after the revenge ending when Kate dies Kate may call you due to a glitch ask you do you want to hang out which that scares everyone you can hang with Kate or not after that you will not get any calls from Kate Rockstar had explain to that they said if you get a phone call from Kate due to that glitch they said she is still dead if you hang out with her or not doesn’t mean that she’s alive
In GTA Online is the proof that ending C is the real ending then Merryweather would it be available, and also GTA online takes place a little bit before Franklin meet the Michael that's why Lamar still works for Simeon
i know that this is an old video, but also roman sends niko a text mentioning vice city if you take the deal. since roman is alive its very possible that he'll make some sort of an appearance in gta 6
The plume of smoke thing isn't all that convincing if you consider the fact that originally they wanted Niko to continue to be the protagonist in both DLCs, but the actor quit because they screwed him over royally in how much he got paid. He didn't understand just how big the game would be, so he agreed to that contract, but it was still shitty of Rockstar to do that.
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Makes total sense, as Dimitri is already stated to be dead (A Dish Served Cold, I presume) by Russian mobsters at Firefly Island when Luis is looking for Timur in TBOGT; then the final missions in both games take place simultaneously!!
Revenge is definitely canon, because Niko is listed as a "driver" for Bellic Cab Company; if Roman was dead, surely Niko would be the owner, not just a driver for the cab firm? Rockstar's way of telling everyone Revenge is canon without officially stating it, as it is still up to the player in each individual game!!
It makes sense, gta iv roman calls niko bellic telling him mallorie is pregnant, gta v packie mentions niko has probably died, gta vi romans son is niko reborn 😱 (or since it was a girl then its girl version of niko? 😂) EDIT: didnt roman also mention something about taking a flight to vice city at the end of the game (where you have to pick revenge or the money) that niko should pick the money so that they can take a flight to vice city? Kinda starting to make sense now we may or may not be getting a female protagonist maybe in the next gta game?
I think the deal is the real ending because after the conversation with malorie nikko said a line reffering to the game and also the ship is used to start a game is also use to end a game While on the revenge after the conversation to his cousin there is nothing just nikko walking away on the bridge
Pause! The dude said there were in "Firefly Island" in 2:35. That's "Happiness Island" in the background. "Firefly Island" is in southeast Broker. You are in southwest Algonquin. Just correcting you right there.
The real ending to GTA IV is simply don't choose between the deal and the revenge. That way, both Roman and Katie stay alive and Niko starts living the american dream. PLOT TWIST
if rockstar were to try and bring a character from San Andreas to GTA 6 (If It ever happens) it should be like if Kendal And Cesar had a kid and from there create a storyline for him.
damm man this is some serious amazing stuff you researched, i am happy that i went with revenge ending (kate dies), it was sad but i was happy with the ending where roman lives......
That sucks, I honestly vastly preferred the deal ending over revenge. I love Roman but I think that's why I prefer his death, cuz it meant more to Niko and the player, Kate was uninteresting so her death didn't mean much. As for the antagonists, Dimitri was introduced first and was the antagonist throughout the entire game while Pegorino was only made the "main" antagonist at the very end. Although it's the sadder ending, it's the one that makes more sense emotionally.
3:31 The plume of smoke in TBOGT was actually way way behind & across 2 the right of the Staute Of Liberty. When the plane exploded, the plane exploded all the way back 2 the right of the Statue Of Liberty. 3:32 were Niko is standing with the AK he's actually by the Alderney Prison side. This is extremely complicated without an actual map of Liberty City were I can actually show pinpoint accuracy of were the plane exploded & Nikos standing position. Thanks Zac .
Hey man ik were talking about GTA 4 but I got a serious about GTA 3 I really love the game but is the radio music real or just a recording i know chatter box is fake but I’m talking about the music and I thought you got answer.
Rockstar probably wanted to add more detail to the game, so they added a second ending. Kate was probably supposed to die, and Roman was supposed to survive.
The Lost and Damned should have had another ending just like Niko's storyline. There isn't really any room for another ending in The ballad of gay Tony but in the Lost and Damned you could've had the choice to go after Ray Buccino or Billy Grey.
My gta iv revenge ending got Kate killed but she still calls niko after she died on the phone the contact is unknown caller and she asked to go on a date and you can pick her up my gta iv must be broken
*What GTA games have you NOT played? I hope y'all are enjoying these GTA Retro style videos. They are always a blast to make.*
ZacCoxTV I have never played VCS, 2, advance, the London series, advance,tbogt, and tlad.
ZacCoxTV I haven’t played GTA London 1961,GTA London 1969 GTA2 and GTA Chinatown wars
I never played GTA 1, London, 2 And Advance.
OMG.IM SO EARLY TO ZACS VIDEO FINALLY
ROMAN ALIVE IS THE REAL ENDING FOR GTA 4
"So this is what the dream feels like?...This is the victory we longed for."
Why do I see you everywhere??!!
bruh
Bro..wtf? You're on N4S videos, you're on Whatever57010s channel you're on this one too do you have teleporting tech??
Hello again
Midnight Club Still Cancelled Soz your on every video i go to 😭
that thumbnail is the most terrifying thing I've ever seen
You have a good point it's cursed
Same
True
It scarred me for life.
Glad I’m not alone on that
No the true ending is me and Niko go to Vice City to go bowling
Let's go bowling
Roman Bellic hell yeah
Jackson Hutterer bet
Ye
Jansen Via alright
I LOVE THE ENDING WERE ROMAN STAYS ALIVE
I like it too. Its not the same ending when you can’t go bowling anymore.
Devon Curtis i just used Roman as a free taxi
@@WarriorPNG lol same
Yes cousin, that is very good ending cousin
Yeah
I can understand Niko for wanting revenge on Dimitri and not on Darko because Dimitri's betrayal happened a lot more recently
Plus Dimitri didn't care about what he did, he was happy he did it, Darko wasn't.
Niko*
I never got to this mission, but I probably would've killed him, put out of his misery and get my revenge, win-win maybe
InfiniteUltima 15 not according to niko
Actually I think its the other way, and I'll tell you why: Niko kills Darko because he doesn't know better about revenge yet, and because Roman was ok with it, more or less. But I think Niko would have done for Roman and worked with Dimitri, like Roman asked. Especially since Niko had already taken his revenge on Darko, and now understands it's pointless. He kills Dimitri in the end, not because of revenge, but because Dimitri proves how dangerous he is when he attempts to have Niko killed and Roman is killed instead.
1:54 there are many fish in the sea. He'll eventually find another girlfriend.
Edit: But you can't find another person to replace your cousin.
I promised myself I will only commit to one woman. Like Pagan Min.
biological family and relatives are not replacable because they came from your flesh and blood by reproductive of natural offspring birth, if your partner dies you can always find another one to replace
Niko : ok Florian
Bernie (Florian) : It’s Bernie!!!!!!
i read that with Bernies Voice :DDD
Greency McFly 😂
Why did I read this with Bernie Sanders voice 🤣
True ending is Niko going bowling with Roman
That’s very interesting. I thought the Revenge ending was the real ending after playing both endings back in 2008. There was just something about the ending that made me think that was the way the game really ended. GTA V pretty much confirms this with seeing Niko’s Life Invader profile, where we can see Roman has an account as well. Also the way Packie talks about his life back in Liberty City in GTA V, it makes me think Kate died. Basically he was all his mom had left and she probably died between IV and V, so he moved out west after she passed. This was a cool theory Zac. Thanks for putting it forward.
Yeah, Packie's mom died that's why he went to Los Santos. Zac made a whole video on it...
Unless Niko moved too hes the only one left in LC- well he roman and mallorie.
@@IMNTV There's evidence Niko moved to San Andreas sometime after. I'd like to think sometime after 2013, Niko decided to move back to Serbia, bought a house in an upper class area of Belgrade, and spent his mother's last years with her.
Assuming that the Francis brother is killed, since Derrick would most likely OD anyway, this makes total sense.
People’s accounts don’t go away after death
I’m sure the revenge ending is the real ending.
With dimitry dying at happiness island. It was a lot more dramatic and cinematic
Revenge ending is the true ending 🤝💯
It's the real ending cuz in GTA IV "The ballad of gay Tony" someone says "Dimitri has died" something like that i don't remember to good 'cause haven't played for a long time
that smoke on the last mission is insane, thats amazing
My therapist: Roman, Mallorie and their child don’t exist with Roman and Mallorie having a photoshopped smile.
Roman, Mallorie and their child with Roman and Mallorie having a photoshopped smile:
The thumbnail should be a cursed image
Kiko Mo the baby looks deformed or something
Yes its cursed
@@lonelyvariety It's Louise's baby from GTA VCS
if you listen to Bulgarin's henchmen's dialog in TBOGT, they will say some about Dimitri being dead and if IV and TBOGT's endings happen at the same time, that would mean Revenge is canon
@@kaptain_torrent_in the "money" ending he does but if you chose "revenge" you'll kill The old man ( i don't remember the name srry )
@@ricardodaniel2257 Dimitri dies in both of the endings.
@Kaptain Torrent yes but dimitri is already dead by the time Luis boards the plane, meaning he’s chasing pegarino
@@ricardodaniel2257 Jimmy Pegorino
@@alanmawson2187pecorino
Kate dying is the real ending
kate suck, i am glad that kate is dead
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Well she's going to dump you any way
4 all y'all asking, the Revenge IS THE REAL DEAL. It is noticed in TBOGT that in the final mission, Timur one of Bulgarin's stooges said and I quote: " Now Rascalov is dead, we have sole claim to the junk."
Indicating that choosing The Revenge, it is THE TRUE ENDING.
Imagine gta los santos stories we never got that
I knew the revenge ending was the real ending
The clipnail weird AF but the vid lit
Noob President yeah It looks gta 4 hentai lol
thumbnail *
I thought it was Kyrie
recently played this amazing game again, did both endings, ive noticed with the deal ending right at the end the camera shows us the back of the statue of happiness and is rainning whilst the revenge ending shows us the front of the statue and its sunny. know this isnt clear proof but logically it helps the cause of the revenge ending is the true ending.
Yeah thats one of reasons why i always pick revenge
The plume of smoke easily tells us that Revenge is canon ending, so for Deal choosers, think again. Niko would not risk the chance of losing his cousin when Dimitri betrayed him. He would go to the Platypus and kill Dimitri, end of. Also, Deal cannot, in any way, become canon, because Timur stated that "Rascalov is dead". So Dimitri was canonically killed before the events of Departure Time. Meanwhile, if Out of Commision and Departure Time happened at the same time, then Party's Over must have taken place the same time as Mr. & Mrs. Bellic. Pegorino kills Kate in the wedding while Bulgarin sends some Russians over to Maisonette 9 to get Luis and Tony killed. Between Mr. & Mrs. Bellic (Revenge) & Party's Over, it was both a difficult time for Niko and Luis. But ZacCoxTV, please change your thumbnail, because it looks frightening to most viewers.
we all do agree that revenge the canon ending, there are still other hints that has never been mention in this video
* the men that niko is chasing to the abandoned house in the top of alderney island, in deal ending it would still say it was still the men of pegorino which was told in one of those 2 men dialogue before riding a huxley suv
* kate will just toss away niko like a trash abandoning him in the time where he needs someone after roman dies in his wedding indicating that niko lost 2 instead of just one compared to the other ending
add: the wedding assassin survives the gta 4 events if the revenge ending is canon
Right as you speak about Roman Bellic, I am literally playing this game all over again while getting to the part where me and Roman are now friends who can hang out and go bowling together
i went with the revenge route and went for dimitri, 1: the way he screwed over niko, 2: i hated dimitri from the start of the game. but when pegorino shot kate i really felt niko's anger and pain, i senced he wanted revenge on him
The revenge ending is the real ending to gta 4 because Kate’s death can be heard on weasel news and also the revenge ending kinda features the ending to the ballad of gay tony in the background and Roman’s death isn’t reported on weasel news
Another piece of evidence was that the Express Car Service depot was repaired by the time GTA: Chinatown Wars took place, which was set in 2009. By then, Roman must have repaired that garage, and it was in service. Additionally, Niko was just an employee of the company, not the owner, so Roman must have still been running things by then.
If you go on any GTA community the "Deal" ending is hated and Kate is an especially hated character. I think Rockstar listened to the community and unofficially confirmed Revenge as canon.
Who hates Kate? She is the most innocent Character. I like Kate. She is ugly but that's the beauty of Niko and her relationship.
I think the Revenge is the canon GTA IV ending. This means Roman is still alive and is still operating his cab business and Kate is officially dead.
"Revenge Is A Fool's Game" - Arthur Morgan
"Revenge is a luxury we can't afford" -Arthur Morgan
@@roberthardwell3916 yep that is a good quote but that was from Dutch
The foo fighter never revenges
Something that doesn't make sense is why does Niko's LifeInvader say he lives in Broker when the apartment burned down?
Gaming Python probably an error from rockstar or the apartment got rebuild
@@AnimeLuffyFan didn't the insurance pay out and Roman bought a penthouse in Algonquin, why would he still be in broker
JROC G that I don’t know probably an error
@keagan snow but he alredy had 2 places of is own during gta 4 that roman didn't know about , alderney house and playboy x ( possible )
@@rickastley5321 don't forget south bohan
And once GTA 6 comes out, Kate Bellic will actually appear on there. Zac might be telling the future...🤔
It's a Boy.
I like to think that his name would be 'One of the 12 Soldiers who were sold out by Darko Brevic back in Serbia during Yugoslav Wars' Bellic
Another great video Zac love seeing these awesome vids
Yes!! I’ve been waiting for this.
They look creepy
KILLA XXVI That’s how they looked like in the Beta version.
I like how it's playing saint's row 2 music in the background lol
Great content dude ..... your videos nowadays really remind me of 2018 ( the best year of your youtube career )
Zac l have been watching your videos for a few years now and you made me want to go back and play all the older gta games
All your points put forward about events in GTA IV actually point to the Deal ending being canon.
Whether you kill Darko or not, Niko realises that revenge is the option and doesn't make him feel any better.
Niko went to LC to escape his past and live a life that wasn't about crime and killing.
The idea that he tries to make a real change by opting for the deal, which is what Roman asks him to do so they can move on with life and have the money to do so, this just makes more sense.
Not only that, but the Deal ending is also the most fitting for Niko's story.
It's a bitter sweet ending.
He got revenge for Romans death, but that fact that Roman, his only family in LC is now dead takes away from his apparent victory.
Everything about GTA IV has to do with Niko and his quest for revenge.
He finds out that revenge doesn't solve his problems, so in the end he opts to put the past behind him, which ultimately gets his cousin killed.
And as for the GTA V easter egg with the "Happy Birthday, Roman" post.
Easily a memorial post, even if it doesn't have RIP.
Also, notice that Mallorie is shown under friends and not family(wouldn't she be family if Roman were alive and married to her?) and that she doesn't have Bellic as her surname.
I agree that the deal ending should be canon. Not only does it fit with the tone of gta 4 better but Dimitri makes for a WAY better final boss than Pegerino
Niko has a lifeinvader profile in GTA 5 and you can see Roman in it
The Fans may not like this but the true ending to GTA 4 is even more depressing. Unlike other games if someone gets the option to die in GTA they either die then or die before the next game.
Niko kills Darko and still feels empty.
Kate and Roman both die at the wedding.
Niko gets his revenge on Dimitri and is left with nothing.
3:28
I love that we’re on the GTA IV topic considering that I went back on this game and started all over again and I’m currently in mission 84👌🏼
6:20
I was just about to mention that lol
I feel like all the old protagonist of the hd universe are gonna show up in the next one if they’re alive
Can you imagine if at the beginning of GTA 6, it just starts off with a female protagonist and you play through the first mission nameless but then someone asks her name and she just says "Kate Bellic". Would be a cool way of expanding on GTA 4 's story past Roman and Niko, and confirming that Roman is alive
There will never be a female protagonist and If there is I'm not playing gta 6
His daughter isn’t even that old. Maybe Roman should be like Simeon
@@surrk1057 It's a Son
@@jd_-3810 i think it was confirmed that there are 2 main protagonist's in gta 6 and one of them is female
The explosion is the fire that the helicopter made when Pegorino shoots Niko in the chopper. But anyways, the Revenge Ending is considered the canon ending, even tho i like more the Deal Ending. Sorry if i have bad English, im Spanish and i dont like using the google translator so i have to use my poor skills.
That's some great English actually, some very minor errors but we all make those sometimes
@@madc2004 Thank you for your kindness buddy, i appreciate it.
I feel terrible when for Kate dies. But Niko will always have Roman. He's an awesome cousin.
Thank you
@@englishpatriot545
Is that Anti-Irish sentiment?
@@mohdadeeb1829 I just wrote it when my pfp was roman
Thanks for another awesome video. You're my most favorite youtuber.
All evidence for Revenge being canon:
- In GTA CW (set around 2009), you can find that Express Car Service, which was previously set on fire, has been rebuilt.
- In Departure Time, shortly before Luis attacks Funland, Timur will mention say "Now Rascalov is dead, we have sole claim to the junk", and the only way Dimitri would have died that long after the diamonds were lost is if Revenge is picked.
- The plane crash being visible behind Niko while Pegorino succumbs to his wounds. This matches up perfectly with the timeline, as Dimitri was already dead.
- Tavell's comment on Roman's Taxi Company. This means the company is still active and has been renamed.
- Niko's LifeInvader profile, which shows that Roman is still active on LifeInvader.
When Niko kills Pegorino, it wasn't the plane with Bulgarin. It was the lights from the factory chimneys. There was a view of Alderney behind Niko.
Imagine if Roman was a main or side character in gta 6
If Kate was alive why would packie leave to Los Santos?also I think packie mentions his whole family is dead or in prison that also confirms revenge is the real ending.i think he mentions it on the paleto bay heist
Tho not confirmed, I can't imagine the mother living too long after losing 3 of her kids, 2 dead and one in prison. However, if Gerald broke out when the Lost broke in to murder Clay then it's likely Packie was trying to help Gerald get as far away from Liberty City as possible
@@FoxMcFly85 what if packies mom moved to vice city,and yeah that is a good theory but packie doesn't mention Gerald at all
@@FoxMcFly85 actually that theory can't make any sense because if you think about it packie is seen going to Los Santos immediately at the end of ballad of gay tony, how would packie help Gerald escape if that already happened and hes already on his way to Los Santos
@@SSJ2KENNELS as a person who grew up in an irish family, I can tell you you'd have better luck fighting the sun from rising than convincing an elderly irish woman to leave a house she lived in for X amount of years and raised a family in to move to the heat stroke and skin cancer capital of the world lol. If I had to venture a guess why Packie wouldn't mention Gerald, maybe cuz Gerald was hiding in Mexico and Packie was in LA (Los Santos) making moves to send him money
@@SSJ2KENNELS the end of The Lost and Damned takes place before the end of Ballad of Gay Tony. Tho the stories intersect, TLaD takes place during the first half of GTA 4, while TBoGT during the last half. We see Packie heading to the airport, but we don't have an exact time frame of when it took place. We do know for sure his mom had 2 surviving children: Packie and either Derrick or Francis (I, personally, think Francis). If she didn't immediately die of a broken heart of losing so many kids in such a fast succession, she's still got one kid to lean on, so Packie can just do his thing for a while
Zac what mod do you have downloaded? It looks great!
What do you mean none of this vid is a mod
Thanks for explanation
Good eye Zac! I believe we'll see Roman return again soon & the daughter scenario I completely forgot about! Love this channel!
~Q
No one: *protagonist falling into meat shredder*
Protagonist: *literally spawn in hospital*
Protagonist dying in missions:
that plume of smoke coming from alderney could also be the Lost Clubhouse burning down
You also forgot to say after the revenge ending when Kate dies Kate may call you due to a glitch ask you do you want to hang out which that scares everyone you can hang with Kate or not after that you will not get any calls from Kate Rockstar had explain to that they said if you get a phone call from Kate due to that glitch they said she is still dead if you hang out with her or not doesn’t mean that she’s alive
In GTA Online is the proof that ending C is the real ending then Merryweather would it be available, and also GTA online takes place a little bit before Franklin meet the Michael that's why Lamar still works for Simeon
Love your videos zac your one of my favourite you tubers keep up the great work
Roman: Let's go bowling!
Niko: Noooo!
i know that this is an old video, but also roman sends niko a text mentioning vice city if you take the deal. since roman is alive its very possible that he'll make some sort of an appearance in gta 6
zac brilliant investigation thanks for telling me that going bowling with roman is the true ending
Your videos always entertain me.
The plume of smoke thing isn't all that convincing if you consider the fact that originally they wanted Niko to continue to be the protagonist in both DLCs, but the actor quit because they screwed him over royally in how much he got paid. He didn't understand just how big the game would be, so he agreed to that contract, but it was still shitty of Rockstar to do that.
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Thank you for sticking around for so long!
Notification gang since my name is potato. keep it up Zac
GTA 4 deserves a happy ending...
Also btw you can kill louis in gta 4 while in the mission 3 leaf clover but the tbogt still happens
Makes total sense, as Dimitri is already stated to be dead (A Dish Served Cold, I presume) by Russian mobsters at Firefly Island when Luis is looking for Timur in TBOGT; then the final missions in both games take place simultaneously!!
Great video
Just imagine Romans daughter as one of the characters in GTA six🤩🤩🤩
It's a Son ya Idiot
I don't know about anyone else but GTA IV is the best 1 in my opinion
Leroy Abrams I agree
Man i LOVE your intro
I believe revenge ending is canon because in the last mission niko sometimes screams “I would never trust you again” or something like that.
GTA 5
"C" Ending = "C"anon Ending
GTA 4
"R"evenge Ending = "R"eal Ending
And lets not forget in tbogt in the final mission one of the enemys says that dimitri is dead
for the thumbnail, i've replayed gta 4 a few times now and that phot, except for the baby, can actually be found in roman's first apartment
Revenge is definitely canon, because Niko is listed as a "driver" for Bellic Cab Company; if Roman was dead, surely Niko would be the owner, not just a driver for the cab firm? Rockstar's way of telling everyone Revenge is canon without officially stating it, as it is still up to the player in each individual game!!
I kinda liked the deal ending more. It fitted better for rascalov to be the final boss instead of pegorino. Pegorino wasn't really final boss material
the tumbnail is so creepy zac it's 23pm give me a BREAAAAKe lol
It makes sense, gta iv roman calls niko bellic telling him mallorie is pregnant, gta v packie mentions niko has probably died, gta vi romans son is niko reborn 😱 (or since it was a girl then its girl version of niko? 😂)
EDIT: didnt roman also mention something about taking a flight to vice city at the end of the game (where you have to pick revenge or the money) that niko should pick the money so that they can take a flight to vice city? Kinda starting to make sense now we may or may not be getting a female protagonist maybe in the next gta game?
@Kane and Lynch yes
I think the deal is the real ending because after the conversation with malorie nikko said a line reffering to the game and also the ship is used to start a game is also use to end a game
While on the revenge after the conversation to his cousin there is nothing just nikko walking away on the bridge
I think Roman is gonna move to vice city I'm calling it now.if he is a stranger in gta6 I'll be amazed
Man that thumbnail... It's so sad to see Roman with white hair and wrinkles all around the face
i love GTA IV and this gave me hope that their might be a future cameo of roman bellic
F to pay respects to Johnny lost but not forgotten R.I.P
I liked Johnny more than Trevor.
@@onionsilk same
Elijah Bonilla Johnny was my 3rd favorite character
Onion Silk Me too
Elijah Bonilla lol
Pause! The dude said there were in "Firefly Island" in 2:35. That's "Happiness Island" in the background. "Firefly Island" is in southeast Broker. You are in southwest Algonquin. Just correcting you right there.
How is this GTA IV gameplay so colourful? What are the Display settings for this footage?
More SR2 pause theme!
Soz.
The real ending to GTA IV is simply don't choose between the deal and the revenge. That way, both Roman and Katie stay alive and Niko starts living the american dream. PLOT TWIST
A game called Mega Man X5 doesn't have a Canon Ending so you maybe right.
True ending is a good night sleep
I wish they’d a kept the “300” for customization in V
That's a good theory I've been watching you since 2016
if rockstar were to try and bring a character from San Andreas to GTA 6 (If It ever happens) it should be like if Kendal And Cesar had a kid and from there create a storyline for him.
you know what is better than revenge ending? roman getting shot in the leg and not in the chest in deal ending
But with dimitry dying at happiness island was a lot more dramatic and cinematic
Who thinks Darko looks like Niko?
You know that gta online is before gta 5 story mode
damm man this is some serious amazing stuff you researched, i am happy that i went with revenge ending (kate dies), it was sad but i was happy with the ending where roman lives......
That sucks, I honestly vastly preferred the deal ending over revenge. I love Roman but I think that's why I prefer his death, cuz it meant more to Niko and the player, Kate was uninteresting so her death didn't mean much. As for the antagonists, Dimitri was introduced first and was the antagonist throughout the entire game while Pegorino was only made the "main" antagonist at the very end. Although it's the sadder ending, it's the one that makes more sense emotionally.
3:31 The plume of smoke in TBOGT was actually way way behind & across 2 the right of the Staute Of Liberty. When the plane exploded, the plane exploded all the way back 2 the right of the Statue Of Liberty. 3:32 were Niko is standing with the AK he's actually by the Alderney Prison side. This is extremely complicated without an actual map of Liberty City were I can actually show pinpoint accuracy of were the plane exploded & Nikos standing position. Thanks Zac .
Hey man ik were talking about GTA 4 but I got a serious about GTA 3 I really love the game but is the radio music real or just a recording i know chatter box is fake but I’m talking about the music and I thought you got answer.
Rockstar probably wanted to add more detail to the game, so they added a second ending. Kate was probably supposed to die, and Roman was supposed to survive.
The Lost and Damned should have had another ending just like Niko's storyline. There isn't really any room for another ending in The ballad of gay Tony but in the Lost and Damned you could've had the choice to go after Ray Buccino or Billy Grey.
There is. In the Penultimate mission Rocco asked you to Kill Tony but he kills Vince. So it might had 2 choices.
They put more detail in this game than gta v like dude two endings in the same time even before the dlc releases!
My gta iv revenge ending got Kate killed but she still calls niko after she died on the phone the contact is unknown caller and she asked to go on a date and you can pick her up my gta iv must be broken