Silky Katanaboy 500 the Bucksaw Killer
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Here is a look at the Silky Katanaboy 500mm with XL teeth. I have been told time and time again in the comments of my videos that I should get a folding buck saw, well I have one I never have much cared for it, they don't like to cut straight and they are very limited on the size of wood that can be cut. For the same size and weight the Silky Katanaboy is a far superior saw and I look forward to using for my firewood processing and trail building this winter.
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Very good review, My Katanaboy 500 was delivered a week ago and found it a must collecting firewood on my dog walks. Just one thought, I could not get my head around the locking screw, so I cut it off and hey presto there is no need for it.
If you can not get the log into a cantilever position, always start the cut from the bottom. Always think about which side will open up and which side will pinch closed.
Best video editing and use of multiple video angles I have seen for outdoor tools. Great commentary.
Brave man taking on such a beast of a log with the camera rolling. That up cut was ridiculous. Gonna get the 650 I think. Thanks for that.
I have one I carry in my ATV primarily for clearing trails without a chainsaw. They are amazing saws.
Who would think that a video of a man cutting a 13" log with a Japanese hand saw would be so interesting!
Man, I found this saw on Amazon for $112, took a screen shot of price, read and watched reviews on and off throughout day then that afternoon price jumped to $196.....damn!!!!!!....tks for the review btw
Take a look at the Silky Bigboy its a bit smaller but quite honestly I find this saw a little too big and cumbersome and I much prefer the size of my Silky Bigboy.
Jason
That's enough to make me want a Katanaboy for bigger logs. I have a Gomboy for my basic camp kit, and for processing smaller firewood or cleaning up young tree growth on my property, it's hard to beat. Even for those who like their bucksaws, it's definitely worth keeping a Silky in the toolkit.
This does replace a buck saw and it far more useful. The fold down size and case makes it way more portable. I used to carry a large buck saw in my truck but since getting this saw I haven't used a buck saw. This saw cuts way faster and is far easier to use than a buck saw
Survival Russian is the man. Great review here. By far one if my favorite saws.
Nice, impressive... Looks like it chews through with no problem!!! Look forward to an update video in the future...
Todd
+Central Oregon Survival Network It definitely does I will be interested to see how the blade holds up over the winter.
Jason
Great video. You sold me on the saw. Think it would be a good addition to my pack. Definitely a good choice for building a permanent shelter someplace.
+Squatch In The Woods Bushcraft I am glad you liked the video, it wasn't my intention to sell you on it as much as I wanted show people there is another option out there, that in my opinion works better. Thanks for nice comment.
Jason
I was thinking the same thing... have a workable cabin in no time!
That really chews through the wood. Pretty amazing atb John
+Turtle Bushcraft It really does, it can be a little difficult to use if the wood is not supper stable, I have found the Silky Bigboy a little easier to use and you still can cut some pretty big rounds with it.
Jason
What a beast of a tool. I am sure we will see more of it in the future. Well done bud, John.
+CommonSenseOutdoors Absolutely, John this saw is going to play a big part in my future winter videos, thanks for watching.
Jason
Tacking some big logs with that hand saw. Nice product, good job!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
LOL. I could see the check in the big log and kept saying "just a little further". Great looking saw! I'm always looking around for tougher and faster when it comes to saws. The Bahco peg tooth blade cuts our eastern hardwood great, but really it's just a flimsy little steel ribbon. The bigger Corona fixed blades are tough as nails but not quite the cutters that the Bahco peg tooth is, and aren't very packable. Now that Katana Boy seems to have it all, or at least as close as you can get to it. This video has really got me thinking about dropping over a hundred on a dang saw I might use ten times a year. LOL. My wife is gonna be thrilled.
+briargoatkilla Lol, well I am sorry if I cause some marital strife, but I think you would really like this saw for your deer camp chores. The blade seems to be fairly stiffs and I didn't have problems with it wanting to bend on me when I would bind it. I only cut dead wood in this video which it did great at but I tried it on some live Willow I have here at the house and it went through it like butter. The saw is expensive but I figure most of us are willing to dump over hundred on a good knife so why not for a good quality saw.
Jason
Wedges for the larger dia. logs! Awesome saw!
I have the bigboy silky and i love mine. I use it alot out there in the bush. I have cut alot of wood with it thus far. Thanks for the show and i would love to have one of these as well. Good video thanks.Take man.
+Kullcraven Bushcraft I may have to get a bigboy as well for day trips and light hikes, I am really looking forward to using the Katanaboy on some winter camps this year.
Jason
Beast of a saw!
at 9:57 I was like B-B-BEAR!
I cannot believe you cut that damn tree. holy cow.
Omg that was a huge log impressive great video.
+mize survival School That was a big log and I was happy to get it cut out of my trail but I wouldn't want cut stuff like that all the time but its nice to know it can be done.
Jason
You sold me on getting one of them babies!
Awesome saw I just got a 650 and i love it.
Awesome piece of gear man!
+Windham Woodcraft Thanks I am pretty happy with it so far, can't wait to use it on some winter camps.
Jason
Beast mode! looking forward to testing that bad boy out.
Atb Sean.
+SeanSquatch PNW Its pretty awesome, I will definitely give you a run with it at the Desert Camp and we can also use it at your camp when I get over there.
Jason
I've had the Silky Sugoi 14.5 inch fixed blade for nearly a year and have used it mainly with hard-wood and often. It has a lightweight scabbard that comes with it... found it at a Forestry supply while it was marked down a bit. My dad used it with me prepping a game field and he said it is a good saw. Let the tool do it's work, be safe.
+Restore all things Hoping to see a good Elk hunt video soon, enjoyed your stand prep.
Duncan
+imsuckingwind I bought a recommended file from Treestuff.com, should keep it sharp for the foreseen usage.
Buy one of these and throw out all your home exercise equip. :-) Will b clearing trail with these in Wind River range in July for Big Sandy Lodge.
That thing looks pretty awesome! all you need now is a really small ax :)
Appreciate the demonstration. I think Japanese hand saws are probably the best to be had. I'm going to find a couple of items to sell so I can purchase one. I have a couple for woodworking (would like more) and one for tree pruning. Great saws. Thanks. Be safe.
+radicaljoe This is my first Silky and I have to say I am pretty impressed I may look into getting one the smaller models for light hikes.
Jason
Holy shit, im getting one!
That's awesome you found that at wall Mart wish they still sold them lol
I found it on Walmart online not in the stores you might check and see if they are still available.
Jason
Useful tool whenever chain saw breakdown, we have secondary back up tool when urgently needed.
It's a must have!!!👍
I just got a Silky Bigboy 2000 with a 14" blade for $50-, and I'm very impressed with it. Not quite the Katanaboy, but badass none the less!
+matt4270 Nice, I might eventually consider the Bigboy as supplementary saw to this one for lighter pack ins and day trips.
Jason
Great vid! Undercut should be done first. How was the undercut / was it really hard with the ergonomics of the saw?
Nice. ! Thanks for the info !
Your Welcome
Jason
Great video Jason. I am very interested in getting a quality and dependable saw. Your video makes me definitely want to consider getting one of the Silky Saws that you are showing. They are obviously expensive and I would imagine that the replacement blade would be very expensive too, but, I am thinking that if you love the outdoors it is worth it. You need quality gear out there if you want to do it right. Thanks for sharing this video (my fellow Oregonian.) Enjoy the outdoors! -Terry
+campfire52 I think you hit the nail right on the head, if you spend a enough time outdoors you get tired of messing around with gear that doesn't function the way you want and your willing to spend the extra to get gear that does.
Jason
That sure is one big folding hand saw...It really went through the wood rather easy...Good work out for the arms also...
+Heith Gagnon It is big, but that was why I went I chose because I wanted to be able to process larger pieces of wood when winter camping.
Jason
Say Heah, I really want a Silky Katana 500. But I recently got A Agawa Canyon 21 Boreal Saw its very similar to the Bob Drustrude Bow Saw where there's no nuts and bolts to loose. But I think the Agawa Canyon 21 Boreal Saw is better. It's stronger. I got it because for its compact size compared to the Silky Katana 500 it's a great saw to even build with I also got the Crazy Horse Scabbard. I have the All Purpose Blade on. But a extra Aggressive saw blade in the Scabbard. The saw exchange is easy peasy nice and easy.,,. p
So how has it held up? Thinking of buying today. :) Happy new year!
That was a bad ass saw :)
Take care, Joachim
+SwedishOutdoor Thanks it does seem to work well.
Jason
Agree, that was impressive!
when you close the silky, you should close to the first lock, then from th back side put your thumb and forefinger on th pivot point and press th lock down with th palm off your hand, that way your fingers can never be in the way of th blade at th final close
Nice, gonna buy one soon as I can find a good price
Watched Survival Russia, Canadian Prepper and I bought one, sold it to my brother and bought the 650...It seems to cut faster if you change the angle of the cut once in a while and maybe jump back and forth across the log...The 650 I got on eBay from Japan for $209, free shipping.
+lizzoid I have to opportunity to use the 500 a lot and I think its about as big as I would want to go for myself, even it can be a somewhat of challenge to use unless the log is very stable allowing you to step back and really take advantage of the full throw of the blade. I have really found the Bigboy to be my preferred saw most of the time.
Jason
+Primal Outdoors Just received the Bigboy and look forward to using it.
I will stick with the bucksaw. I can pack alot of extra blades that weigh practically nothing. Most bucksaw blades are 10-18 bucks. With most Silky's the blade costs as much as the saw. Now dont get me wrong, its a pretty cool saw.
Fair enough Ken, use what works for you. The saw is cool but I have found I like the smaller Silky Bigboy even better and its quite a bit cheaper.
Jason
Say Heah, Defenetly something to consider for the future, Right now I use the
Bigboy2000. And for what I need it's plenty, I also have the Carona 10" Curved Blade and my Power Teeth Wooden Fiskar. That I like also. But seriously Thanx for sharing, That with my new Ochsenkopf Axe with the 2.7lbs head and 27.5+" heft, I could build a cabin for my permanent shelter in the bush. heh heh heh
I also have a Bigboy with medium teeth and to be honest I prefer it over the Katanaboy for most purposes. Thanks for watching.
Jason
Thank You for the reply
Nice saw
+Pontus Andersson Thanks
Good demo. Just got mine in recently after watching Lars' vid on Survival Russia as well lol. Looking forward to testing it as soon as the deep freeze abates a little. Wonder if using a couple of chainsaw wedges or bracing underneath with smaller logs on either side of the cut would eliminate the kerf bind? Impressive tool!
+Canesser I am not sure worth a try though.
Jason
Or, if you have an axe with you also, use that as a makeshift wedge.
I carry a Silky GomBoy, KatanaBoy 500 and an Estwing 16" Camper's axe in my Jeep, so I have an axe to use as a wedge if needed.
-- BR
I live in Costa Rica...and would love to have one of these..............
put 2 small logs that fit under it then cut it so it will not pinch like that
I opened it up at the hardware store the other day. The blade pricked my index finger and I was gushing blood. The thing is awesome!!!
@@John-ih7gpbeen there. Done that. Got a scar too!
Yes the katana is bigger than a normal sized 16-24 inch bucksaw. But the saw does get whippy at the handle, and at the end during vigorous sawing. A bucksaw blade is firm in the framework and in its cut. If you want to cut TIMBER, log cabin logs, or stumps, then yes the katana is a good item. Canadian Prepper also used the saw, and you can see all the mentions I detail about the saw.
It all depends on what you want to do with a saw, green/dry wood, big/small wood, construction, bushing, prepping, housework, etc. If you want a katana in a camping situation, then you are making a base camp, or a hunting/tree stand, etc. For us (ultra)lights, we only need to cut 4 inch diameter (which is huge for any hiker, camper, fisherman, hunter, bushie, preppie, bug out, hidey hole event).
If you use a small foldable blade (3-4 inch saw range), and have a breakdown metal or wooden bow or bucksaw (12-14 inch saw range) , then you could do all light and medium size-work. Otherwise, take a katana in the trunk when you get to where you want your base camp (18-24 inch saw range) large size-work.
Still, personally impressed with this product, if I had the above situations.
+John Lord I can''t say I totally agree with you, the Katanaboy I felt was very firm and I did not notice the whippy action you talk about, plus I have used bucksaws and feel for the most part there handles have a tendency to shift in the hand and they don't like to cut straight. If your an ultra light summer hiker then I would agree something like the Bahco Lander is really all you need, but for winter camps in my area at least, a Bahco or comparable size saw definitely would not be my first choice as I am trying to get wood that will burn longer (6 to 8 inch rounds) and since we don't have hardwood I have to use pine or fir and 4 inch and smaller size pieces burn too quickly. As for packability the size and weight of the Katanaboy is comparable to my folding Bucksaw and it eliminates the need for smaller folding saw so in the end your actually cutting pack weight down. I definitely appreciate your thoughts on this matter but I have personally used axes, bucksaws, bow saws, small folding saws and tomahawks for winter wood processing and outside of using a chainsaw I feel the Katanaboy leaves them all in the dust when it comes to cutting firewood to manageable lengths keeping in mind I am after 6 inch and larger size rounds. If you have hardwood and a stack of 4 inch pieces of wood will keep you burning a nice fire through the night with out having to re-feed it every hour then I can see where the Katanboy may be overkill but even at that I would choose one of the smaller Silky folding saws over a bucksaw. I hope you don't find my response argumentative it is just my thoughts based on my experience with the different tools in my area, I really do appreciate your comment.
Jason
I saw this on Survival Russia s channel too. Then I got so excited I had a accident and it was messy to clean up.
+schlaznger I can see that happening its a pretty bad as saw, lol
Greta video, great saw. I think it would have sliced all the way through if you would have wedged it when it started to bind to open it back up.
+Human Hand Design It is great saw, wedging it would have been a good idea to try, thanks for watching.
Jason
Thought on this one 4 years later?
Does it still do the work?
Very very very good . How much the price of the saw please
I just can't imagine a folding bucksaw like the Sven or Bob Dustrude sawing through that big of a tree.
+Brandon Tran I can't either this saw is awesome and in my opinion much more versatile than bow or buck saw, thanks for watching.
Jason
good vid. I appreciate the honesty on how it worked. Thinking I need to get me one!
This proves a great point Jason.
I have to laugh at all the idiots who go hiring an actual tree-cutting contractor to lop some branches off their tree in the front garden. 2 vehicles, 3 or 4 men, chainsaws haha!, a mulching machine - it's an effin lark!! Waste, waste, waste.
As my Dad said once upon at time:
"You'd think they were going to cut down the rainforest!!"
Well done for this vid, your lack of laziness and stupidity to do so much manually, and your interest in all things natural.
Cheers Bud :)
Thank you, I don't mind doing things manually, plus a chainsaw, gas, and bar oil is a lot to carry into the backcountry, lol.
Jason
Yep. I think the Silky in a weight/performance ratio in terms of hiking into the scrub far outperforms a small chainsaw. Oh, g'day from Australia.
Jason, I'm looking at the Silky line of saws, and since it's been awhile that you've had with the Bigboy and the Katanaboy are you still hooked on these? I like to camp like you and often walking in, yet I like to have a good cooking fire. Suggestion please. I'll keep watching, Jeffrey
Yes, though if I had to do it all over again I think I would just get the Bigboy, the Katana boy is great but unless what your cutting is secured and you can use both hands it can be a little difficult to use, the Bigboy can still cut good size pieces of wood and be handled with one hand. I also recommend the medium tooth blade as it seems to work well on seasoned and green wood.
Jason
Jason, Thanks for your insight. I was also thinking that the Katanaboy did seem a little too big, and as you have shown in some other video's, the non-bushcraft chainsaw works fine for those times when you need to process some big stuff...quickly. LOL. I'll enjoy your next adventure.
That thing looks like it works awesome. Do you know the weight on it? Is it something that would be practical to pack in or is it more of something you would use out of the vehicle? it almost seems like if you packed that saw you could potentially do without an axe.
+Coyote Works I honestly haven't weighed it, mainly because I could tell by holding that it would be no problem to pack. I actually picked up a Cold Steele Pipe Hawk and between the two of those items I think I will have my wood processing handled in fairly lightweight setup.
Jason
I have the Silky Big Boy, which has a blade about twice as long as the Bahco Laplander, but that katanaboy looks like it can do some serioux cutting.
Primal Outdoors Oaf size and weight. A complete white elephant.
Good, I subscribed
Thank You
Jason
Primal Outdoors
I'm trying to decide on 650 or 500.
What do you think?
The 650 really is huge. depends on what you need it for. Camping? Get the 500.
Looks like a great saw. How does the weight compare to a buck saw?
+Gary Cloud I don't know I haven't weighed my bucksaw or the Katanaboy but I would say they are very comparable. If I remember when I get home I will weigh them but I feel the difference is going to be insignificant.
Jason
I was hoping for a follow up video on this one. How did it fare a year on, or two?
It is still a good working saw, but I found I liked the smaller Silky Big Boy better, its lighter and easier to use one handed.
Jason
Again, silky is nice for clearing trails, short term bushcraft camp. Sven saw 21 inch is way better for bug out bag, day pack, long term survival for a small cabin, debris shelter, cutting bone, etc. They are completely two different saws, for two very different purposes.
We all have our own opinions and I say use what works best for you, but I will use my Silky all day every day and twice on Sunday over the Sven saw.
Jason
@@PrimalOutdoors I agree completely. It looks like an awesome camping saw for sure. I'll be getting one for sure.
Good!
What kind of boots are you wearing?
love this thing so much
though i use my Gomboy far more, simply due to form factor, the katana is so effective it is almost comical. Have blown some friends and strangers minds haha
just for reference paid 120 for mine from home depot ~4 years ago (2016)
Do they sell a pole for this blade?
That's a frikkin tree!
Amazing!! This saw could be something i need but how to do when its dull? I use a bowsaw and the blade are very cheap to buy when its time to switch it out. Thanks for a very nice video Jason.
+magnus andersson Yes I am curious how long the blade will last, I plan to use it quite heavily throughout the winter so we will see how she holds up.
Jason
10:04 you better watch out the a cute wild dog behind you
How many hours do you get from a blade before sharpening, and how would one sharpen that blade ?
I have no way telling how many hours you can get out of a blade there are far too many factors involved, at this time I do not know if you can sharpen it, at this point I have not needed to sharpen or replace the blade.
Jason
where did you get that body vest
Its a product I make called the ecs www.primal-outdoors.com
Jason
wow that is one big folder! Have to say very impressed by its cutting ability and can see how it is an excellent carry if you are needing to process large logs. a.t.b. vee
+Wildsoul62 Thanks Vee, this thing is large but I feel it is comparable to carrying a 21 inch bucksaw into the woods and know I could do a lot more with the Katanaboy than I could with bucksaw. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Jason
what is that ...a tactical ribz you are wearing? I have a katanaboy as well...love it!
ok...chest rig ecs....
+highonimmi I have been super happy with my Katanaboy I also have since picked a bigboy as well.
Jason
+Primal Outdoors I have a bigboy2000...I dig that baby....my bro seems to have adopted my katanaboy....he always does that.
Manual saws are good for precision joinery, not for heavy duty work. Just use a 300usd italian or jap made chainsaw like oleomac, stiga, dolmar, echo etc.. Good value for the price and easy to maintain
all true, but this thing is lighter and doesn't need fuel and packs down to a very slim package and doesn't make nearly as much noise which is perfect for going thru the woods when you're trying to hide from socialist dictators
Nate with Canadian pepper shows him good price free shipping to us
Still like it?👍🏼❤️🇺🇸
I do, but I bought a Silky Big Boy and I find I prefer its size over the bigger Katanaboy.
Jason
What chest rig is that ??
It is the Essential Carry System designed and sold by me, you can find more information on it here. th-cam.com/video/pGXGciNSKlk/w-d-xo.html
Jason
I love Silky saws, including that one, but it is not a bucksaw killer. You can't always make something better by making it bigger, and that's the case with the 500. It is a good saw, but it is not as good as a full size bucksaw.
+James Ritchie I respect your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more. I would love to see you do a video and show me cutting 13 inch log that is laying close to the ground like the one I show in this video, I am not saying bucksaws can't cut wood good, I have a bucksaw with Bahco dry wood blade and it cuts awesome not as good as the Silky in my opinion but the big problem is I can't cut large wood because of the handle, in fact the handle is always in the way, have you ever tried to trim a tree with tons of branches with a bucksaw. So can a bucksaw cut wood absolutely but the handle makes it clumsy and cumbersome and the Silky's are just far more versatile in my opinion.
Jason
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That's a cool saw, but my $20 Irwin pull saw is just as sharp, just as fast, much thinner kerf(less physical material being cut, and can fit just about anywhere with the blade detached. It doesn't have the reach that this one has, and blades won't last nearly as long, but I can buy 10 before I hit the price of this saw.
Interesting I may have to check one of those out and see how it does, I actually find that I prefer the Silky Big Boy over this saw.
Jason
I have to turn the volume down everytime an ad plays because I have to max it for this video.
I have the Silky Pocketboy 130 and I feel inadequate
This saw would be excellent for cutting heavy leg bones on a Moose Hunt.
I am sure it would work, but you might be better off with the BigBoy with a medium tooth blade. Thanks for watching.
Jason
You know Japanese saw well. Japanese saws "draw". I can tell by grinding sound.
LIKOS
At this thing's current price a homemade aluminum buck saw is still a great option...
Philippe Clemens Langemeyer I agree. This thing is impractical, massive and doesn't do anything q good Bucking saw couldn't do for a quarter of the weight and price.
Nothing except cutting larger wood in half the time for a 1/4th the effort. My time and effort is worth a little more.
I enjoy camping. Cutting wood with inefficient equipment is not fun.
Richard Lamoreaux So do I and a 20 inch axe and a 21 inch bow saw have never left me unfed, cold overnight or without hot drinks. You stick to your logging and I will stick to my tools. That way we are both happy. Thanks for demonstrating some good techniques and plenty of outdoor enthusiasm. Pleased to see you enjoying the great outdoors.
Сколько стоит?
I went camping and got a hernia.
Walmart are you kidding me you walked into a Walmart and got one? or is it online
Most likely online.
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I’ll never carry a saw that big. Hell right away people will be carrying chainsaws
You haven't cut many big logs have you.
Why does every person on youtube not use the saw right? lol... Every single person only uses half the blade.
Why not just buy a freakin chain saw?