This is an overall great way to reveal tanks not basing them on 1 type of rating but 3 base on how they are design. This creates more accurate rating for people who really wants to know which tanks to buy. But I think you could add 1 more rating, (Friendliness to new players / Skill Rating)
Ive always loved how thoughtful you are about ranking tanks. Most content creators only rank things based on competitiveness, but as someone who’s played this game for near 11 years now, I love novel and fun tanks.
The Kunze Panzer is just a crazy tank for me for some reason. I 3 marked it in 100 games and have an absurdly high wn8 on it. I would not even consider myself as an exceptional player but somehow that tank just works for me
i love the kunze to spot for the heavys as it gets in position fast wile getting ready to shoot the light in the siege mode whit great cammo, if you kill the light you control the map,great spotter and sneaky cammo
The ae phase is like a conqueror if not better, i just got it yesterday and i think its amazing, you can pen almost anything with those precious heat rounds
I already bought the two Soviets (HT +TD), and used the remaining tokens to buy Bonds. My slight regret is that these tanks do not have an increased credit income which I was unaware of, but the trade-off is an unimited Premium Repair Kit saving 20,000cr per game.
I love the 777 II. I’m a bang average 50% WR player and I can achieve a 60+% WR in the tank. It’s just very well rounded for most maps and scenarios and none of its statistics are bad enough to hold it back in any way.
Same here! Love that tank, especially on maps like Overlord. Sure, it may be a little generic, but I would argue that its the higher end of those kinds of tanks.
I LOVE my Obj. 777 II! It was my very first reward tank I got from the Battle Pass tokens. I instantly fell in love with the thing. People were bad-mouthing it whenever I took it into battle, and I end up doing decent in just about every match I use it. This thing's armor can really troll people, and the gun is pretty darn good. For example, one of my favorite maps to use it on is Overlord. Whenever I go to the beach, I always go to the side and flank around the hill. The narrow dip in the sand dune there on either corner provides almost complete protection of the lower plate and angles my turret enough to where most shells are auto-bounce. In a good matchup on a map like that, it is a beast.
First year I made real effort w/ the BattlePass and I went with Phase1, Char Futur, and then the 777. Looking forward to running them when I get up to that tier, Char seems like it'll be fun with a fully trained crew. Thanks for the videos
I have a lot of fun in the Cobra, 777 II, and the Kunze. I use the AE Phase often (I like the infinite repairs), and the Char is my sweaty tank. I'm not getting the expensive German, K-91, or the Chinese heavy. I do not regret getting the Lorraine I just struggle with it often.
Modify the Lorraine 50t to be fast as it can and use it to support your mediums and light tanks. I’ve found this usually works out well for me. Just a thought. Have a good day!
@@1stJohn_3_16 I think I have done that. I'm at work so I cannot check. I think I put on Bounty Turbo and Very Stabs and Rotation so I can fire and maneuver.
I already have AE and char, so I guess I'll go Cobra, Kunze, k-91, which is what I already was going for, but it's good to have confirmation to my gut feeling.
My ratings: Competitiveness S tier - Cobra and Char A tier - Phase, K91 (the closest you can get to my beloved old 263 at higher tiers nowadays, arguably should be B tier for most players) B tier - 777, Kunze Rest not worth placing Fun S tier - Cobra A tier - Char, K91 B tier - Phase, Kunze, 777 Rest again not worth placing Novelty S tier - Cobra, Char A tier - K91, Kpz, Kunze Rest are not novel at all and you can find similar tanks to play Overall just take Cobra and Char first, maybe Phase if you prefer hull down heavy playstyle, K91 if you are an old 263 enjoyer or Kunze if you want a more challenging to play leo pta. 777 might also be a good choice for beginners. Rest are not really debatable, avoid
I love the kunze. Its one of my favorite tanks in the game and i don't find it clunky at all. Also the 777 is very underated and pretty much fool proof
I got all those tanks. Best ones for me personally are the Char Futur 4, the Kunze Panzer, the KPZ 3 Pr.07HK, the Lorraine 50 t and the Cobra. In that order. Of all the battle pass reward tanks, those, in my opinion, are the most fun to play. And something QB here didn’t mention was just how freakishly fast the Lorraine is. Mediocre tip: don’t play it like a heavy. Play it like a weird medium. I min/maxed it to be as absolutely fast as it can possibly be. And it hilarious watching mediums struggle to keep up. Medium locations are the best positions for this tank. The only thing heavy about it is it’s weight. Don’t be afraid to ram things with it. But hey, to each their own! If you like the look of any of these tanks, regardless of Quickybaby’s ratings or my thoughts, get them! Have fun in whatever way you see fit. Like I said, I’ve got all of them. The ones I listed are just the most fun for me. But they’re all good and fun in their own rights. Alrighty, that’s my two bits. Have some fun out on the battlefield! Pick one of these novelties up before it’s too late! Stay safe out there, y’all!
I have to choose between the KPz or the BZ....thanks to this comparison I now know what to choose! ;-) By the way: the K91-PT can turn very very quickly....I find it fun to play!
Indeed, and the two tanks he said he rather play is a good reason for him for sure, but the problem with that statement is that the majority of the players probably don't have those two tanks. Plus the AE only cost 9 tokens, it's very worth it.
Yes, I do agree with these assessments. (just want to say, that I was always on the 777 over Phase wagon, since it's more "mindless", but I remember everyone comparing the gun depressions and saying that the AE is superior. So yeah, the Phase is more potential, but for an average player the 777 just delivers without any map knowledge or whatnot.) Also, I find that I play the Kunze much more than the Leo PTA, even though the latter is clearly better. The reason being the Kunze is just much more rewarding to play, because of the annoying siege mechanic. It requires constant micromanagement between every shot so each successful hit feels like a big achievement.
I just found this video after getting the char first and the cobra second. I feel like I must be as good as QB if I was able to make that choice by myself but my win rate says differently.
QB you might want to revisit your tank review of the KPZ which rated it as ‘very good’ and ‘very fun’. People reading that review only would be sadly misled.
AE phase 1 is my best tier 9 heavy. I consistently get 3-4k in it. I play it like my jadgtiger, with turbo, rammer, and durability device. Only tanks I have that are fun enough to casually get two marks.
I got the project 07 HK. Really love the mechanics of it and it's fun to me. Do I recommend it over most stuff like the char futur 4? eh probably not. It's a good vehicle if you want some that's just very different gameplay wise. Especially if you like the swedish tds since a lot of knowledge from those carries over (it's not a german swedish td but it has a good carryover of skills)
I have tried so so hard with the Kpz 3 Pr 07 and it is just the biggest handicap, it is so difficult to be effective - there are only 2 maps where it has a near chance of doing well.
The Char has like a 10 second reload shorter of the cobra but 4 seconds in between shots plus it has no gun depression over the front of the vehicle so I think from my experience of playing them both the Cobra is far more competitive
It would be nice if WG updated the AE Phase 1 with the M-III-Y track mechanic. It's referenced in the tanks description; Especially after WG had upped the price on the tank by three tokens.
QB making Video about which token tanks to buy while i can't even access the damn store in-game to spend my token our the BP point. Thanks WG you even broke the 1 feature that can make you money :D
The value/economic consideration should be factored in by players wishing to get these tanks as well. You can literally get the AE, Obj 777 and K-91 for the same tokens as the BZ.
Say what you say, but I quite like the KPz 3 Projekt 07 HK and do not regret buying it. I don't find the siege mode clunky as I don't switch between the modes when I'm sniping, and being able to use vents and gun rammer, instead of having to use turbo on one of those slots gives it more flexibility over the Swedish TDs. I am aware that it has some flaws (the price being a massive obvious one), but imo it's still a fun tank. I still have 9 tokens left, and the only cheaper tank on the list I'm still missing is the Object 777, which I'm probably going to buy. Only annoying thing is because of WarGaming's stupid changes with the recruits taking up barracks slots I have no room anymore for the extra crew.
Thank you. I have been sitting for awhile now wondering what I should do. Already had Char and Cobra so I picked up three others. K-91-PT 277 II and Kunze Panzer
Hello, if i see it correctly you can only earn a max of 6 tokens in this battlepass right? So if i just startet with WOT again and i never participated in one battlepass before, i will not be able to buy one of these?
Having the kunze panzer at B in competitiveness is criminal in my opinion, i always do great in this thing and set a new damage record on my account with it
What a solid watch. Great job on the rating system. I drive the Kunze Panzer and The AE and also own but haven't driven the Char, and the Cobra. All four tanks are loaded with battle pass crews and crew booked to five perks. I bought the German TD, but I don't plan on driving it to be honest and I'm glad to see this video that confirms my ideas on it. I just take bonds now for points and use it for equipment on my favorite tanks. Those other tanks don't feel like my playstyle. The Char and Cobra might not be either to be honest.
Great video, my tanks i kept are AE,Char, Knuze & Cobra. The rest i'm not interested in. I have bought the others but sold them for credits, i can buy them back with credits if i want later but i don't think i will. Not that good.The Token to Bond ratio is pure crap i think.
Yeah no the K-91 PT with regards to its competitiveness is way better than just C tier. The fact that it is sneaky, has good mobility with the potential of going hulldown as well, makes this tank very versatile. You can snipe with it, or go support the medium flank, and when it is top tier it is also nice for brawling. If you are a good player, this tank should be A class.
i think the k91 pt deserves a higher rank. its really mobile and agile and can use it to get into really agressive hulldown positions and just farm the enemies. this tank has great potential when played right but you just have to play out his strengths and get agressive. i think its everything ther 268/4 needs. reliable hitting gun, good agility and not a giant weakspot. also 315 pen is completely fine and better than many other tanks. you have to look at it as a turretless medium not a td
Tanks from BP that I own: 1. AE Phase 1 - great heavy, one of the best tier 9 tanks but you have to like hulldown gameplay; I don't know why QB rated it so low 2. Char Futur - funny tank with great gun but a bad autolader - intraclip is 4 seconds; almost no armor so you should know what you're doing - not for beginners 3. Kunze - over-complicated brother of leo pta, if you already have it you can skip kunze; some people play it without siege mode at all 4. K91PT - total mistake, avoid. Works in 1 out of 10 games; also very low ammo capacity 5. Cobra - I must agree with QB: it's either great troll or mood destroyer, nothing in between; tier 9's FV4005, also it eats credits like crazy IMHO get AE and Char, then Cobra
Boy you are not giving the phase 1 the respect it deserves. Most people dont own the concept and most dont own the caiftain. Its a quiet competitive t9 heavy with good mobility and awsome heat pen, it just works
QB...you compare AE with Chifetain Proto which is premium tank and you need to buy it, and with Concept 1B which is bond tank (and not tech tree!!) which you can`t get it anymore. I think your comparison is wrong regarding AE. K-91 P is good as Char. And Cobra is S class tank. First you need to learn how to play it, but when you know what to do with it, then its easy to do 3K+ damage. You just need some practise with Cobra.
False! It is not “straight up worse” by any means! It is not as good, to be sure! But it is still a very strong fighter on a ridge line. Though QB’s positioning of it is definitely skewed. Have a good day, friend!
yes, you are right, this currently is the last BP season for this year. No new tanks. This is because, as usually, from December onwards the Holiday Ops special starts.
I just saved up for the KPz 3. Bought it. Because I have all the 9 token tanks, and didnt feel Cobra and the rest were any good. I guess I fell for the novelty factor of it. I dont actively dislike it. It is however somewhat underwhelming. I've had some decent battles in it. Have the best camo you can on it.
I don't enjoy the Cobra, but I don't have the field mods yet. Sure, dealing 2k dmg so quickly is fun, but it also ruins the fun for the enemy tank. It's disgusting and I won't play it very much. I should have gone for the BZ-58-2. For me, the list goes like this: char > phase > k-91 > bz > 777 > (tanks I'm never going to play)
Are you gonna do a vidoe about steel hunter, I would love to hear what your strategies are, also sorry if you said it in the video I didn't watch it yet
I don't think that many people are actually leaving the side mode for better reload on the Kunze. Most of them I see in battle, even the good ones, are just playing it like a Leopard 1 and dropping the siege mode when changing positions. Around 2500 dpm with around 0.25 dispersion and 1.6sec aim time is still quite decent in the siege mode, at least to me.
I bought the Cobra because i already had a lot of the other tanks. Now i'm on my way to go take out a credit loan to play it. 😁 I feel like this thing is going to hand me a receipt at the end of every battle, but should be fun.
Argh, I was saving for the Cobra, and got to 22 tokens and now there are no more to obtain before they get wiped! Guess I'll have to get the Char (which I already have on my NA account) and the 777. I really hate this wiping of the tokens, it's totally unfair.
yup, I agree. char and cobra are the best. I played AE phase till I got the concept, both are good, but concept is superior. 777 is great if you need to do blocking missions. K91 PT - i dont see a single reason to play this instead of the regular K91, miles better. Kunze is good to take out once a month for fun, thats it. The rest is not even worth mentioning.
I have them all and while the Char is my favorite, I was surprised to find I have the most fun in the K-91 PT. One of the last ones I got reluctantly and dear God is it so fun. I never snipe with it. I drive crazy and aggressive. Facehug and hulldown and opponents panic. It's so fast with a turbo and the DPM is really nice. Sporting an almost 60% winrate with it so far
Cobra is only a must-have if you are a p2w player with a premium account. Otherwise the Cobra will basically be an Anti-Premium tank with regards to its credit income for all f2p players.
I feel the same but you can only spend them one at a time, a slow and laborious process as I have 42 of them, I think I'll wait until WG auto-spends them for me.
Well, QB. I gotta say im totally disagree with anything you said on the competitive side of your rating. BZ is extremely terrible to play with, it would got a D tier at best. I already felt that I will not agree with you when you didnt put char in the S tier. Why not? If you play it like a single shooter you can disassemble everyone! Lorraine would get E tier at best. Kampfpanzer is awesome but you need to understand how to play it and that siege mode is absolutely unusable. If you will pick your engagements and use HE properly, you will rip most of your enemies - Id drop it in A category. Kunze would go to A category also because you need to understand that its a med/light conglomerate. Avoiding siege mode and boosting its spotting capability will give some great results. Cobra should be S tier in that category but its also the case of knowing and exploiting that tanks strenghts. AE Phase not in S tier? Its one of the best tier 9 heavies in any category. But if you choose not to spam gold than maybe A tier. Also - AE would eat your chieftain 9 out of 10 times. 777 would go to B because it works in some scenarios but crafting the position is not easy. K91PT is a small brother of 268v4, why its not at least a B tier in your rating. I will never understand it. Its a second video that spins me so hard, that im considering making a YT channel to debunk your misinformation! Remember your vid titled 'How to get betterin Wot' ?? Your conclusion was 'just play better'. Cmon. You can do better QB. Just do better.
Might be worth approaching this as a Free-to-Play or casual player who doesn't have access to things like a Chieftain or Concept-1B which may make the AE Phase 1 much more attractive.
Suggestion, Would it be possible to do a video about gun caliber versus tank armor? Your tank reviews often touch on this (great Job). Maybe a more in-depth explanation would be useful to help players improve. Thank you.
It's not that difficult. If a plate is 30mm for example it can be overmatched by a 91mm gun and bigger. If a plate is 50mm it can get overmatched by a 151mm gun and bigger. It's always 3x the base armor thickness +1mm on top basically. If you have a 40mm plate for example your rule of thumb can be that most russian heavys t7+ can overmatch you because they usually have 122mm guns or bigger. Oh and only AP and APCR shells can overmatch.
Apart from the x3 rule, there's not much to say. The other part that old and/or sweaty players get to leverage against newer players is experience and dedication, meaning you actually put effort in and memorized each tank's armor capability, to be able to take advantage of the overmatch mechanic. That's all there is to it. To take it further, once you know armor values, you add to that gun calibers, pen values and visual recognition of each gun's model ( if the tank shooting at you has a choice in guns ). It's an extremely large subject and can only really be taught by trial and error and dedicating yourself to the game. No amount of youtube tutorials can help you connect all those numbers together, but experience will.
Thanks, QB! I’ll have my 9th token tonight, if all goes well, and have been on the fence between the AE Phase 1 and the Char Futur 4. Since I play mediums more often, I’ll probably end up get the CF4.
BZ needed rockets, and the Phase should have had that spare track mechanic... I do like the Futuur and Cobra, however, grinding the battlepass for the other tanks doesn't seem to make sense for me. (And Futuur was originally a prize from Frontline!) I think WG needs to seriously rethink the battlepass tokens, because, as it stands, there's very little reason to grind for them.
I have to disagree with KPz 3 Pr. 07 ranking. I applaud other tanks reviews and placement in the ranking, but I think not enough has been said about newcomer KPz. I had really bad experience with this TD when started playing - I was asking myself "wtf is this tank, is there anything good about it?". Siege mode is awfull, you need to switch stances every now and then to get the best out of it. But then revelation has come... I started using HE ammo mostly (has 120 penetration - similar to Cobra) in normal mode, which left me with 5.59 reload time and possible dmg of 250/300 to 550 dmg (where standard/premium rounds offer circa 350). This changed my opinion about Kpz 07 and changed my gameplay. It's ramming power is another plus - Leopards, Grille type tanks are being shred to pieces... Not the best tank, requires some skill to handle, but rewarding sometimes (5.59 second reload :-) ). I would say B C A B
just finish this years battle pass and have 24 tokens, but the top tanks cost 28 token... how you suppose to get these tanks why you cant make enough tokens to buy them, also game wont let me buy the 3D styles for the points i got
I love Char and Cobra, AE is okay, Kunze and K91PT are weird and awkward and frustrating, 777 is okay but boring and the rest vehicles I don't have and I'm not planning to purchase
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This is an overall great way to reveal tanks not basing them on 1 type of rating but 3 base on how they are design. This creates more accurate rating for people who really wants to know which tanks to buy. But I think you could add 1 more rating, (Friendliness to new players / Skill Rating)
I went with the AE Phase 1 and Char Futur 4, I like both of them quite a bit.
yeah in my opinion they are the most solid two tanks overall.
same
Yeah, I'd say anybody who doesn't already have those should prioritize them.
haha same m8, even though i have concept 1b i still use ae phase sometimes it just feels nice
Same, good tanks
Ive always loved how thoughtful you are about ranking tanks. Most content creators only rank things based on competitiveness, but as someone who’s played this game for near 11 years now, I love novel and fun tanks.
The Kunze Panzer is just a crazy tank for me for some reason. I 3 marked it in 100 games and have an absurdly high wn8 on it. I would not even consider myself as an exceptional player but somehow that tank just works for me
It’s bc of how shit ppl play it 😂
i love the kunze to spot for the heavys as it gets in position fast wile getting ready to shoot the light in the siege mode whit great cammo, if you kill the light you control the map,great spotter and sneaky cammo
I think qb is a little wrong about the ae phase 1. That tank is quite good imo. Mainly because of the premium rounds are epic
+1....for whatever reason, i can't manage to make the Char work that good for me but i do quite well in the AE....and i love auto-loaders
The ae phase is like a conqueror if not better, i just got it yesterday and i think its amazing, you can pen almost anything with those precious heat rounds
Yeah I think his point was it's not bad but there are better,
Let's not forget, if you get into the right postion, you can bounce so many shots..
the obj is so underrated tho
great sidescraper, great mobility, great armour, mid gun handling and the *same premium rounds as ae*
I already bought the two Soviets (HT +TD), and used the remaining tokens to buy Bonds.
My slight regret is that these tanks do not have an increased credit income which I was unaware of, but the trade-off is an unimited Premium Repair Kit saving 20,000cr per game.
i never use prem repair/med kits anyways though. if they came with unilimited food that would be absolutetly amazing though
Do any of the battle pass have the improved credits ?I didn't know about that m8
I love the 777 II. I’m a bang average 50% WR player and I can achieve a 60+% WR in the tank. It’s just very well rounded for most maps and scenarios and none of its statistics are bad enough to hold it back in any way.
Same here! Love that tank, especially on maps like Overlord. Sure, it may be a little generic, but I would argue that its the higher end of those kinds of tanks.
I LOVE my Obj. 777 II! It was my very first reward tank I got from the Battle Pass tokens. I instantly fell in love with the thing. People were bad-mouthing it whenever I took it into battle, and I end up doing decent in just about every match I use it. This thing's armor can really troll people, and the gun is pretty darn good. For example, one of my favorite maps to use it on is Overlord. Whenever I go to the beach, I always go to the side and flank around the hill. The narrow dip in the sand dune there on either corner provides almost complete protection of the lower plate and angles my turret enough to where most shells are auto-bounce. In a good matchup on a map like that, it is a beast.
First year I made real effort w/ the BattlePass and I went with Phase1, Char Futur, and then the 777. Looking forward to running them when I get up to that tier, Char seems like it'll be fun with a fully trained crew. Thanks for the videos
I have a lot of fun in the Cobra, 777 II, and the Kunze. I use the AE Phase often (I like the infinite repairs), and the Char is my sweaty tank.
I'm not getting the expensive German, K-91, or the Chinese heavy. I do not regret getting the Lorraine I just struggle with it often.
Modify the Lorraine 50t to be fast as it can and use it to support your mediums and light tanks. I’ve found this usually works out well for me.
Just a thought. Have a good day!
K-91 isn't bad, plus it only costs 9 tokens
@@agbrenv honestly, it isn’t a bad TD. It was also my first BP reward tank.
@@agbrenv I'm sure it's ok but I already have the K2 and IS-3A. And the Ktts. I'd never play the K 91
@@1stJohn_3_16 I think I have done that. I'm at work so I cannot check. I think I put on Bounty Turbo and Very Stabs and Rotation so I can fire and maneuver.
The BZ 58 2 surprised me in a good way. Yes, hull armor isnt there, but the gun is so reliable for that kind of alpha damage.
AE phase and char futur should be both in A tier and Cobra should be in a special place called RNG
No RNG, just pure carnage, the tank is suprisingly consistent if you have good equips and right mindset.
@@duhdurden4672 yes, i think QB just didnt want a bunch of people seeing this video and getting cobra because... that would be terrible for the game.
@@Immortal_BP true
@@Immortal_BP screw the game, Cobra duels are fun
I already have AE and char, so I guess I'll go Cobra, Kunze, k-91, which is what I already was going for, but it's good to have confirmation to my gut feeling.
The OBJ 777 II on my 1st game was great
The tank is an underdog because it was barely use and it really could brawl
My ratings:
Competitiveness
S tier - Cobra and Char
A tier - Phase, K91 (the closest you can get to my beloved old 263 at higher tiers nowadays, arguably should be B tier for most players)
B tier - 777, Kunze
Rest not worth placing
Fun
S tier - Cobra
A tier - Char, K91
B tier - Phase, Kunze, 777
Rest again not worth placing
Novelty
S tier - Cobra, Char
A tier - K91, Kpz, Kunze
Rest are not novel at all and you can find similar tanks to play
Overall just take Cobra and Char first, maybe Phase if you prefer hull down heavy playstyle, K91 if you are an old 263 enjoyer or Kunze if you want a more challenging to play leo pta. 777 might also be a good choice for beginners. Rest are not really debatable, avoid
I love the kunze. Its one of my favorite tanks in the game and i don't find it clunky at all. Also the 777 is very underated and pretty much fool proof
I got all those tanks. Best ones for me personally are the Char Futur 4, the Kunze Panzer, the KPZ 3 Pr.07HK, the Lorraine 50 t and the Cobra. In that order.
Of all the battle pass reward tanks, those, in my opinion, are the most fun to play. And something QB here didn’t mention was just how freakishly fast the Lorraine is. Mediocre tip: don’t play it like a heavy. Play it like a weird medium. I min/maxed it to be as absolutely fast as it can possibly be. And it hilarious watching mediums struggle to keep up. Medium locations are the best positions for this tank. The only thing heavy about it is it’s weight. Don’t be afraid to ram things with it.
But hey, to each their own! If you like the look of any of these tanks, regardless of Quickybaby’s ratings or my thoughts, get them! Have fun in whatever way you see fit. Like I said, I’ve got all of them. The ones I listed are just the most fun for me. But they’re all good and fun in their own rights.
Alrighty, that’s my two bits. Have some fun out on the battlefield! Pick one of these novelties up before it’s too late! Stay safe out there, y’all!
I have to choose between the KPz or the BZ....thanks to this comparison I now know what to choose! ;-) By the way: the K91-PT can turn very very quickly....I find it fun to play!
I chose the AE Phase 1 and the Char. As much as I would like to have more tanks as a F2P I think the equipment will be better for me in the long run.
I feel like you criminally underrated the Phase 1. I still enjoyed the video lol
Indeed, and the two tanks he said he rather play is a good reason for him for sure, but the problem with that statement is that the majority of the players probably don't have those two tanks. Plus the AE only cost 9 tokens, it's very worth it.
Yes, I do agree with these assessments. (just want to say, that I was always on the 777 over Phase wagon, since it's more "mindless", but I remember everyone comparing the gun depressions and saying that the AE is superior. So yeah, the Phase is more potential, but for an average player the 777 just delivers without any map knowledge or whatnot.)
Also, I find that I play the Kunze much more than the Leo PTA, even though the latter is clearly better. The reason being the Kunze is just much more rewarding to play, because of the annoying siege mechanic. It requires constant micromanagement between every shot so each successful hit feels like a big achievement.
I just found this video after getting the char first and the cobra second. I feel like I must be as good as QB if I was able to make that choice by myself but my win rate says differently.
QB you might want to revisit your tank review of the KPZ which rated it as ‘very good’ and ‘very fun’. People reading that review only would be sadly misled.
AE phase 1 is my best tier 9 heavy. I consistently get 3-4k in it. I play it like my jadgtiger, with turbo, rammer, and durability device. Only tanks I have that are fun enough to casually get two marks.
I got the project 07 HK. Really love the mechanics of it and it's fun to me. Do I recommend it over most stuff like the char futur 4? eh probably not. It's a good vehicle if you want some that's just very different gameplay wise. Especially if you like the swedish tds since a lot of knowledge from those carries over (it's not a german swedish td but it has a good carryover of skills)
IDK where we differ on the KPz 3 but its my second highest average damage at tier 9, well into 60%s win rate and i great for some missions.
For me its the same and i had block 5 k in One game all tier 9. i love this tank
This video will save me so much time digging through the old videos of when this battle pass started. Thanks, QB!
Bought the Char, enjoying it so far.
I have tried so so hard with the Kpz 3 Pr 07 and it is just the biggest handicap, it is so difficult to be effective - there are only 2 maps where it has a near chance of doing well.
The cobra is a tank you could do 5k damage in or 600damage, just depends on what side of the 15-1 ruffle stomp you are on
13:41 "straight in the C-section" good one, good one hahaha !
The Char has like a 10 second reload shorter of the cobra but 4 seconds in between shots plus it has no gun depression over the front of the vehicle so I think from my experience of playing them both the Cobra is far more competitive
It would be nice if WG updated the AE Phase 1 with the M-III-Y track mechanic. It's referenced in the tanks description; Especially after WG had upped the price on the tank by three tokens.
Being in that decision situation currently, this has been superbly helpful QB. Thanks
For some weird reason the BZ is one of my best performing tanks at tier 9. I just keep clapping out big dmg/assist most games I play
Love my AE Phase 1
Speaking or rating tanks, I think its time to update the prem ranking list and the tier 10 ranking list. Love your videos QB.
QB making Video about which token tanks to buy while i can't even access the damn store in-game to spend my token our the BP point. Thanks WG you even broke the 1 feature that can make you money :D
love this video idea! and would also like to see this for other groups of tanks in future if possible. maybe for t10 heavies/meds for example!
Quickly Baby, I watched your review of the KPZ03 you made 5 months ago and based on your review wasted 20+ tokens on it, thanks for that.
To help you save time and not waste 30 mins of ur life: Get cobra if u can, if not either AE or char are a great choice, all other tanks are garbage.
The first I got is the Char Futur. And KPz is the only rewards tanks that I don't have. I'll wait it to get more cheaper.
The value/economic consideration should be factored in by players wishing to get these tanks as well. You can literally get the AE, Obj 777 and K-91 for the same tokens as the BZ.
None of these tanks make extra credits. Their economy is based solely on what consumables and equipment the player is willing to spend on them.
I'm not sure what that has to do with my comment, but thanks for replying.@@1stJohn_3_16
Say what you say, but I quite like the KPz 3 Projekt 07 HK and do not regret buying it. I don't find the siege mode clunky as I don't switch between the modes when I'm sniping, and being able to use vents and gun rammer, instead of having to use turbo on one of those slots gives it more flexibility over the Swedish TDs. I am aware that it has some flaws (the price being a massive obvious one), but imo it's still a fun tank.
I still have 9 tokens left, and the only cheaper tank on the list I'm still missing is the Object 777, which I'm probably going to buy. Only annoying thing is because of WarGaming's stupid changes with the recruits taking up barracks slots I have no room anymore for the extra crew.
Thank you. I have been sitting for awhile now wondering what I should do. Already had Char and Cobra so I picked up three others. K-91-PT 277 II and Kunze Panzer
Hello,
if i see it correctly you can only earn a max of 6 tokens in this battlepass right? So if i just startet with WOT again and i never participated in one battlepass before, i will not be able to buy one of these?
The Char also has almost 1500m/s shell velocity like the Leo PTA.
Having the kunze panzer at B in competitiveness is criminal in my opinion, i always do great in this thing and set a new damage record on my account with it
What a solid watch. Great job on the rating system. I drive the Kunze Panzer and The AE and also own but haven't driven the Char, and the Cobra. All four tanks are loaded with battle pass crews and crew booked to five perks. I bought the German TD, but I don't plan on driving it to be honest and I'm glad to see this video that confirms my ideas on it. I just take bonds now for points and use it for equipment on my favorite tanks. Those other tanks don't feel like my playstyle. The Char and Cobra might not be either to be honest.
Great video, my tanks i kept are AE,Char, Knuze & Cobra. The rest i'm not interested in. I have bought the others but sold them for credits, i can buy them back with credits if i want later but i don't think i will. Not that good.The Token to Bond ratio is pure crap i think.
i dont need to think what i buy, i have all ^^
Better to convert all tokens to bonds and then collect it for bounty equipment
I also have all! All are fun!
Yeah no the K-91 PT with regards to its competitiveness is way better than just C tier. The fact that it is sneaky, has good mobility with the potential of going hulldown as well, makes this tank very versatile. You can snipe with it, or go support the medium flank, and when it is top tier it is also nice for brawling. If you are a good player, this tank should be A class.
i think the k91 pt deserves a higher rank. its really mobile and agile and can use it to get into really agressive hulldown positions and just farm the enemies. this tank has great potential when played right but you just have to play out his strengths and get agressive. i think its everything ther 268/4 needs. reliable hitting gun, good agility and not a giant weakspot. also 315 pen is completely fine and better than many other tanks. you have to look at it as a turretless medium not a td
Hey qb, when we gonna get that kolobanovs medal game ??
Tanks from BP that I own:
1. AE Phase 1 - great heavy, one of the best tier 9 tanks but you have to like hulldown gameplay; I don't know why QB rated it so low
2. Char Futur - funny tank with great gun but a bad autolader - intraclip is 4 seconds; almost no armor so you should know what you're doing - not for beginners
3. Kunze - over-complicated brother of leo pta, if you already have it you can skip kunze; some people play it without siege mode at all
4. K91PT - total mistake, avoid. Works in 1 out of 10 games; also very low ammo capacity
5. Cobra - I must agree with QB: it's either great troll or mood destroyer, nothing in between; tier 9's FV4005, also it eats credits like crazy
IMHO get AE and Char, then Cobra
I think QB forgot about the novel ability of the 777II to go through windows!
Boy you are not giving the phase 1 the respect it deserves. Most people dont own the concept and most dont own the caiftain.
Its a quiet competitive t9 heavy with good mobility and awsome heat pen, it just works
QB...you compare AE with Chifetain Proto which is premium tank and you need to buy it, and with Concept 1B which is bond tank (and not tech tree!!) which you can`t get it anymore. I think your comparison is wrong regarding AE. K-91 P is good as Char. And Cobra is S class tank. First you need to learn how to play it, but when you know what to do with it, then its easy to do 3K+ damage. You just need some practise with Cobra.
how is the BZ-58-2 above the phase 1 its just straight up worse
False! It is not “straight up worse” by any means! It is not as good, to be sure! But it is still a very strong fighter on a ridge line. Though QB’s positioning of it is definitely skewed.
Have a good day, friend!
Thank you QB for this vid! I have really wondered about which tank to pick and this really helped! Thank you❤️
Thx for the tips, Nice way too see your way too judge the tanks. 😊
is there an editing mistake at 1:19? I really can't figure out what QB is trying to say.
so there are no more new token vehicles coming in before the new year, on a new BP?...is the current BP the last one til end of the year?
yes, you are right, this currently is the last BP season for this year. No new tanks. This is because, as usually, from December onwards the Holiday Ops special starts.
That is correct! There won’t be another battle pass until next year.
Just bummed they took away the improved equipment for tokens. I've already got the token tanks I wanted.
The kpz3 is a bit of a nightmare to use and for me personally I don’t really connect with it and play it very little
Yup, the only ones in my garage are the Char, the Cobra and the K91PT... Gj!
I just saved up for the KPz 3. Bought it. Because I have all the 9 token tanks, and didnt feel Cobra and the rest were any good. I guess I fell for the novelty factor of it. I dont actively dislike it. It is however somewhat underwhelming. I've had some decent battles in it. Have the best camo you can on it.
You can buy bond equipment woth tokens too.
I don't enjoy the Cobra, but I don't have the field mods yet. Sure, dealing 2k dmg so quickly is fun, but it also ruins the fun for the enemy tank. It's disgusting and I won't play it very much. I should have gone for the BZ-58-2. For me, the list goes like this:
char > phase > k-91 > bz > 777 > (tanks I'm never going to play)
Are you gonna do a vidoe about steel hunter, I would love to hear what your strategies are, also sorry if you said it in the video I didn't watch it yet
Played exactly 50 games in the KPZ 3 Projekt 07 HK, didn't enjoy it at all. Ended up selling it to buy the Jagdtiger, don't regret it at all.
Managed to get KPz 07, Char futur, and AE Phase 1 ❤️
I don't think that many people are actually leaving the side mode for better reload on the Kunze. Most of them I see in battle, even the good ones, are just playing it like a Leopard 1 and dropping the siege mode when changing positions. Around 2500 dpm with around 0.25 dispersion and 1.6sec aim time is still quite decent in the siege mode, at least to me.
I kinda hate that WoT is at the stage that a Tier 9 having 520 alpha is just 'high enough' to trade shots :(
I bought the Cobra because i already had a lot of the other tanks. Now i'm on my way to go take out a credit loan to play it. 😁 I feel like this thing is going to hand me a receipt at the end of every battle, but should be fun.
Argh, I was saving for the Cobra, and got to 22 tokens and now there are no more to obtain before they get wiped! Guess I'll have to get the Char (which I already have on my NA account) and the 777. I really hate this wiping of the tokens, it's totally unfair.
yup, I agree. char and cobra are the best. I played AE phase till I got the concept, both are good, but concept is superior. 777 is great if you need to do blocking missions. K91 PT - i dont see a single reason to play this instead of the regular K91, miles better. Kunze is good to take out once a month for fun, thats it. The rest is not even worth mentioning.
I think the Cobra, Char and AE Phase are the only "must haves" you really need. The rest is just "Schmuck am Nachthemd" as we would say in Germany :D
I have them all and while the Char is my favorite, I was surprised to find I have the most fun in the K-91 PT. One of the last ones I got reluctantly and dear God is it so fun. I never snipe with it. I drive crazy and aggressive. Facehug and hulldown and opponents panic. It's so fast with a turbo and the DPM is really nice. Sporting an almost 60% winrate with it so far
Cobra is only a must-have if you are a p2w player with a premium account. Otherwise the Cobra will basically be an Anti-Premium tank with regards to its credit income for all f2p players.
@@robinkhn2547 Reward tank*
I dont see any reason to waste tokens for any of those tanks cause they dont count as premiums. I rather buy bonds.
I feel the same but you can only spend them one at a time, a slow and laborious process as I have 42 of them, I think I'll wait until WG auto-spends them for me.
Well, QB. I gotta say im totally disagree with anything you said on the competitive side of your rating. BZ is extremely terrible to play with, it would got a D tier at best. I already felt that I will not agree with you when you didnt put char in the S tier. Why not? If you play it like a single shooter you can disassemble everyone! Lorraine would get E tier at best. Kampfpanzer is awesome but you need to understand how to play it and that siege mode is absolutely unusable. If you will pick your engagements and use HE properly, you will rip most of your enemies - Id drop it in A category. Kunze would go to A category also because you need to understand that its a med/light conglomerate. Avoiding siege mode and boosting its spotting capability will give some great results. Cobra should be S tier in that category but its also the case of knowing and exploiting that tanks strenghts. AE Phase not in S tier? Its one of the best tier 9 heavies in any category. But if you choose not to spam gold than maybe A tier. Also - AE would eat your chieftain 9 out of 10 times. 777 would go to B because it works in some scenarios but crafting the position is not easy. K91PT is a small brother of 268v4, why its not at least a B tier in your rating. I will never understand it. Its a second video that spins me so hard, that im considering making a YT channel to debunk your misinformation! Remember your vid titled 'How to get betterin Wot' ?? Your conclusion was 'just play better'. Cmon. You can do better QB. Just do better.
Might be worth approaching this as a Free-to-Play or casual player who doesn't have access to things like a Chieftain or Concept-1B which may make the AE Phase 1 much more attractive.
The Concept 1B was actually quite easy to get as a f2p player. Biggest hurdle would be the 20k bonds, but apart from that, is quite easy to get.
Sorry, should have focused on casual not f2p. Forgot it was in the ranked shop.
I dont think people who not own a AE Phase1, although it has been in battelpass for 5 years , own a Chief Proto or even a Concept 1B
"I'm dropping the Kunze Panzer straight in the C section" really caught me off guard 😂
Suggestion, Would it be possible to do a video about gun caliber versus tank armor? Your tank reviews often touch on this (great Job). Maybe a more in-depth explanation would be useful to help players improve. Thank you.
It's not that difficult. If a plate is 30mm for example it can be overmatched by a 91mm gun and bigger. If a plate is 50mm it can get overmatched by a 151mm gun and bigger. It's always 3x the base armor thickness +1mm on top basically. If you have a 40mm plate for example your rule of thumb can be that most russian heavys t7+ can overmatch you because they usually have 122mm guns or bigger. Oh and only AP and APCR shells can overmatch.
Apart from the x3 rule, there's not much to say. The other part that old and/or sweaty players get to leverage against newer players is experience and dedication, meaning you actually put effort in and memorized each tank's armor capability, to be able to take advantage of the overmatch mechanic. That's all there is to it.
To take it further, once you know armor values, you add to that gun calibers, pen values and visual recognition of each gun's model ( if the tank shooting at you has a choice in guns ).
It's an extremely large subject and can only really be taught by trial and error and dedicating yourself to the game. No amount of youtube tutorials can help you connect all those numbers together, but experience will.
Thank you, that helps. also for taking the time to help@@justmgm
Thank you so much. this is helpful. Damn you for pointing out I have to think :) @@cmft9358
Very helpful, thank you so much for the explanation and taking the time to help.@@cmft9358
I got 17 tocen and want to buy cobra, is 13th battle pass before 2024?
Good thing I was already planning on the Char!
Really useful - I have the CObra, CHar, AE, K91 already . . Was going Kunze but thinking 777 now….
Gosh QB, I have enough for the char OR the cobra. Geez!!!! What a tough pick for me this year
I guess I'll convert my tokens to bonds and pay into the m60 account. Don't really want any of those beyond what I already have. (AE, CF, Cobra..)
Thanks, QB! I’ll have my 9th token tonight, if all goes well, and have been on the fence between the AE Phase 1 and the Char Futur 4. Since I play mediums more often, I’ll probably end up get the CF4.
i have both and you will have a great time in both, altough i like the ae phase a touch more
I love my phase🤗. Both are good. If I can today I get the cf4
8:15 did Quacky just say that the Concept 1B is in the American Tech Tree??? Umm, isn't it a Ranked Reward tank??
7:54 You are a bit wrong with regards to this take, you must remember, some of us are F2P and tokens are free, AE is
BZ needed rockets, and the Phase should have had that spare track mechanic... I do like the Futuur and Cobra, however, grinding the battlepass for the other tanks doesn't seem to make sense for me. (And Futuur was originally a prize from Frontline!) I think WG needs to seriously rethink the battlepass tokens, because, as it stands, there's very little reason to grind for them.
I have to disagree with KPz 3 Pr. 07 ranking. I applaud other tanks reviews and placement in the ranking, but I think not enough has been said about newcomer KPz. I had really bad experience with this TD when started playing - I was asking myself "wtf is this tank, is there anything good about it?". Siege mode is awfull, you need to switch stances every now and then to get the best out of it. But then revelation has come... I started using HE ammo mostly (has 120 penetration - similar to Cobra) in normal mode, which left me with 5.59 reload time and possible dmg of 250/300 to 550 dmg (where standard/premium rounds offer circa 350). This changed my opinion about Kpz 07 and changed my gameplay. It's ramming power is another plus - Leopards, Grille type tanks are being shred to pieces... Not the best tank, requires some skill to handle, but rewarding sometimes (5.59 second reload :-) ). I would say B C A B
bec its technically in the game in some way, wt e100 has better clip damage then cobra
just finish this years battle pass and have 24 tokens, but the top tanks cost 28 token... how you suppose to get these tanks why you cant make enough tokens to buy them, also game wont let me buy the 3D styles for the points i got
I love Char and Cobra, AE is okay, Kunze and K91PT are weird and awkward and frustrating, 777 is okay but boring and the rest vehicles I don't have and I'm not planning to purchase
I feel that AE Phase I should be S, good gun handling, solid turret, OK speed
Will there be anotger battle pass before 2024?