The Surprisingly Super Interesting Origin of the Arlington National Cemetery

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  • @michaelkeenan2307
    @michaelkeenan2307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    winfield scott: you can't sit out the war
    *robert e lee joins the confederacy*
    winfield scott: not like that!

  • @LouisianaJesse
    @LouisianaJesse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    That Winfield Scott fella was to the point

    • @hashtag415
      @hashtag415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His men called him...
      "Old Fuss-n-feathers.

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      @Louis_Davout 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Genius of the campaign against Mexico.

  • @V.Hansen.
    @V.Hansen. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    That WAS super interesting.

  • @mrmike2119
    @mrmike2119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good presentation, Simon. Thank you.

  • @shogunn2517
    @shogunn2517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My brother is buried in Arlington National Cemetery. I taught a class at Fort Monroe and stood inside of Davis' cell(yes, it's still there). I use to live across the street from Hollywood Cemetery.
    Thank for the video details on my home state.
    (And the one Today I Found Out, I found out well before today lol)

    • @_Abjuranax_
      @_Abjuranax_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My sister-in-law has relatives buried their as well, and has a pass where she could drop my family off on the grounds without having to walk from the visitors parking lot. Also, Jefferson Scott Davis III was my roommate in the Army. He was from Washington State, as the family moved west later on.

    • @lucybronkema6486
      @lucybronkema6486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My grandfather and his wife are buried there. It was so cold and windy the day he was buried.

  • @greghouser2617
    @greghouser2617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I don't know if this is true but a historian once told me that Robert E. Lee was the only person in history who had an opportunity to serve as the military leader on either side in a major war.

    • @12yearssober
      @12yearssober 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Greg Houser
      He definitely would have been chosen to lead the Union army but since Virginia was his state he felt he needed to serve the Confederacy so he resigned from the Union and was chosen to lead the confederacy.

    • @boomznbladez405
      @boomznbladez405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Lincoln approached Lee before anyone else. And it should be noted, Lee didnt reject based on morality or political belief, quite the contrary he thought preserving the union and abolishing slavery was noble... He just could not bare to raise arms against his friends, family and neighbors, all who resided within his home, Virginia.

    • @Claytone-Records
      @Claytone-Records 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fort Lee in Virginia is named for him and is a beautiful army base where I lived for a time.

    • @boomznbladez405
      @boomznbladez405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Also goes without saying. General Lee, along with Stonewall. Is the only one who rebelled who is still respected and revered with full military honors to this day.

    • @bgd73
      @bgd73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      those military roles were of privilege, makes sense to be anywhere. Learning of Lee's family, it is mostly french royal and other government lunatics. not to make fun of it, we are related.

  • @craigbenz4835
    @craigbenz4835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for an honest and accurate accounting of events.

  • @_Abjuranax_
    @_Abjuranax_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Thanks for presenting these videos. FYI: They just made it a Third Degree Felony in Florida for defacing our Monuments and Memorials to our Veterans, regardless of the conflict of which they served.

    • @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas
      @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Felony for property damage....
      Fucking police state.

    • @daerdevvyl4314
      @daerdevvyl4314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Dùbhghlas MacDùbhghlas A police state would be one where the police arrest people for no reason, or for merely criticizing the state, not one where people are arrested and charged for violating others’ rights. And yes, destroying public property is a violation of the rights of all citizens, who own that property.

    • @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas
      @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@daerdevvyl4314 this is a police state.
      a totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens' activities
      Patriot act... enough said.
      That is harsh that is about 5 years in jail for property damage.
      That is the type of punishment you see in Russia.

    • @_Abjuranax_
      @_Abjuranax_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas The cost of restoring those monuments damaged by vandalism is between $2,000 and $200,000 depending on the severity of the damage done, which falls into felony range, and does not include the cost of prosecuting or incarceration of the perpetrators. If you do not feel that it is fair to go to jail for that long for property damage, don't do it and you won't have to worry about it, will you.

    • @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas
      @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@_Abjuranax_ Then fine them for that amount. Take it out of their pay if they cant pay up front. Or have them pick up trash along the roads to pay that debit, public parks, public beaches, etc.
      Having a felony on your record screws employment prospects, housing prospects.... Which they might resort to selling drugs or rob people to support themselves. Limit people prospects the prospects of those crimes become attractive.
      It is some object harmed not a person...
      If military people why not also civil rights people. Just saying those statues most of them was put up form 1910 to 1960 more or less remind the black folk how was really in charge and you better stay your place. And those laws was crafted due things happening to confederate stuff, as the states did things like from cities from removing them if they want. Which in turned pissed off those people and stuff been getting damage in those cities. The states is suppressing cities rights to determine to what they want to have to say what they city keeps as decoration.
      This is authoritarian response that was caused by other authoritarian moves.
      Plus keeping them up gives blacks bit of credence to white power structure within the government when various states are trying protect monuments of people who once kept them down and was put up during time of Jim Crowe laws to remind them of their place still exist today, and people want to protect them. Yeah I would thinking that it was to protect their heros that was involved with the whole being upset over the idea of the US passing anti slavery laws sometime in the future. Like it or not that was the main reasoning on the whole states rights was slavery. States rights is just a southern white PC way of saying slavery so they don't feel bad looking at their heros. Maybe there heros aren't really heros.
      Now the common soldier I have no issue for. Even though the south fired the first shot, an army was marching on their homes. That is something worth honoring. Not the powerful, because they cause this with their to maintain what they thought was the natural order.
      I am Iraq war vet. I the Iraqi military we fought I have nothing but respect for them, because they was defending their homes. During the occupation you had the Shia on Sunni outside of the whole ISIS and other such groups. And I respect those men for doing what they did which was protect their homes. Yeah some other stuff to.

  • @savage1267
    @savage1267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Surprisingly interesting. Thank you.

  • @stevehansen5389
    @stevehansen5389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Lee Custis manor at Arlington was appropriated as a Union hospital. The first interments were Union soldiers who died in the hospital. It became the final resting place for Union soldiers who died from wounds or disease in the Washington area. The original interments were expeditious necessitated by sanitary concerns. Initially it was assumed the remains would be relocated at an opportune time. However, a decision was made to formalize the cemetery and make all interments permanent. The idea was to locate the first graves close to and around the manor, thus making it unsuitable as a post war residence for Lee and his family.

  • @chrisnorton6622
    @chrisnorton6622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    For your deaf and hard of hearing viewers, please check into why the Closed Captioning and/or sub-titles are not working. Thanks for the great content!

    • @mollywhoppedsouls_pvp
      @mollywhoppedsouls_pvp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You were probably too early for it. It takes time after the upload

  • @angelogarcia2189
    @angelogarcia2189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gen. Meigs first born son is buried at Arlington. He died in the valley campaign, 1864.

    • @_Abjuranax_
      @_Abjuranax_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There was a Pvt. Jasper Starling from whom I am directly descended, which served in one of the Trans-Mississippi Brigades of the Confederacy, and a General Starling which attended my Alma Mater Norwich. All gave some, some gave all.

  • @stevenboykin116
    @stevenboykin116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I passed Jeff Davis' boyhood home Rosemont Plantation yesterday on my way to Woodville Ms.

  • @jray5363
    @jray5363 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t believe I’ve never heard any of this before. Truly interesting facts . Thank you!

  • @joansmith3296
    @joansmith3296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great Civil War history today, thanks!

  • @hashtag415
    @hashtag415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    12:44
    Is it just me, or does president Andrew Johnson look a whole lot like Tommy Lee Jones?

    • @erickhart8046
      @erickhart8046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ok now I can't unsee that lol

    • @keithdean9149
      @keithdean9149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kind of... Tommy Lee Jones would be a good pick to play him in a movie.

    • @daerdevvyl4314
      @daerdevvyl4314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #Hashtag I saw it too.

    • @ladykoiwolfe
      @ladykoiwolfe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I suggest a bit of research. It's possible they are related.

    • @hashtag415
      @hashtag415 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ladykoiwolfe
      Easily done. Because one's a famous actor, and the other is a past U.S. vice-president as well as the U.S. president who replaced Lincoln after the assassination, it would appear in either of their biographical references. Oops just looked. They're not related in the slightest. I'm surprised that you didn't think of doing that yourself before leaving such a reply. Had you done so, it would've made you look a whole lot smarter.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    SCOTT: You can't sit out the war.
    LEE: Then let me stand

    • @edwaar4060
      @edwaar4060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen if he wouldn't have done what he felt was right in his heart and soul. That would have been the greatest mistake in his life. It's shame so many of us forget.

    • @blacktainfalcon7097
      @blacktainfalcon7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edwaar4060 and then he fucking lost and is now a laughing stock.

    • @lucasparham5068
      @lucasparham5068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Lee joined the Union army the war would have been a lot shorter and many lives would have been spared. His sense of honor damages the nation he claimed to love and for nothing, since his side still lost.

  • @treehouse318
    @treehouse318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i just listened to this while making dinner- it was good! thank you.

    • @kaitriley1932
      @kaitriley1932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have to ask, was it the dinner or the video you were praising?

    • @treehouse318
      @treehouse318 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaitriley1932 - dinner ended up pretty tasty, but i really enjoyed listening to this video while making it. win-win!
      thank you for asking.😊

  • @mbisson5816
    @mbisson5816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Despite being a "damn yankee" (someone from a Union state who settles in a Southern state) , I have visited Davis' grave twice. I have no fascination for him or any of the other people who led the United States into one of it's most of not the most painful period of American history. However, Hollywood cemetery where he is buried is a fascinating place to walk around and literally read about history on the tombstones. I'd recommend it to anyone who visits Richmond, Virginia. It's also free. Nearby Maymont is also free of walking amongst flowers and a well kept Japanese garden is more to your liking.

  • @EricHeffner
    @EricHeffner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This great story has a connection to me, I looked Into more after listing to this bio. I live In Allegan Michigan I’m sure everyone has heard of this city, we had a resident here by the name of Benjamin Dudley Pritchard , during the civil war he was known as General Benjamin Dudley Pritchard turns out he was the general in command of the Michigan Calvary he made the arrest of Jefferson Davis ,He’s buried on Oak Hill cemetery here in Allegan Michigan and his residence still stands here in the city can’t wait to tell the wife I’m sure she won’t be as excited as I am more than likely not at all

  • @denisgoff251
    @denisgoff251 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lived next door to Beauvoir in Biloxi before hurricane Katrina. Lots of history there. Tomb of the unknown soldier and national cemetery for the Confederacy is their, along with lots period clothing and artifacts. Its more a museum now (and then) and is beautiful to visit. I used to like to roam the grounds and consider all the past history of the area before there was a United States. (Biloxi was settled in 1699)😁

  • @Sigurther
    @Sigurther 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Further demonstrates that history is rarely written in black of white, but rather in uncountable shades of gray.

  • @Burgoyne1777
    @Burgoyne1777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Davis lived in a rooming house, a residence of John Lovell, city directory publisher, in Montreal, post-war. His daughter attended a girls' high school there, which still operates to this day. Until 2 years ago when it was removed by History Erasers or Culture Cancellers, a bronze plaque had been placed on the wall of Hudson Bay Company by the Daughters of the Confederacy in 1954.

    • @mercedesgomez8258
      @mercedesgomez8258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How about History manglers?
      Literally the daughters of confederation have been the reason why the civil war is glorified as southern culture

  • @EricHeffner
    @EricHeffner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This great story has a connection to me, I looked Into more after listing to this bio. I live In Allegan Michigan I’m sure everyone has heard of this city, we had a resident here by the name of Benjamin Dudley Pritchard , during the civil war he was known as General Benjamin Dudley Pritchard turns out he was the general in command of the Michigan Calvary he made the arrest of Jefferson Davis ,

  • @michaelmcchesney6645
    @michaelmcchesney6645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had never realized (or had forgotten) the family connection between George Washington and Robert E. Lee. I did know that after the Civil War Lee became president of Washington College in Lexington, Virginia.The college had fallen on hard times and Lee revitalized it and instituted an honor code similar to West Point's which is still in effect today. It is a single sanction code. Found guilty by a student honor court of lying, cheating, or stealing and you are thrown out. After Lee died, both he and his horse, Traveler, were buried on campus. Lee was interred in the Lee Chapel and his horse just outside of it. The school was renamed Washington and Lee University.
    I attended law school there in the 1990's. They take the honor code seriously. On the undergraduate side, there is a 2 week exam period. Students can take the their exams any time during that period, anywhere on campus. Students are expected to abide by any time restrictions and not refer to notes or books unless allowed. On the law school side, you had to take exams at one of 2 scheduled times, but they were not proctored and you could take the exam in any classroom. The professor would come into the room at the start, hand out the exams, and leave a box for exams to be dropped off. They would come back 3 hours later and collect it.
    The year before I started, a law student was expelled by the honor court for violating the code. Instead of completing an assignment during a break, he hooked up with a girl. He told the professor he had been sick and was granted an extension. But he either confided in/bragged to other students about what really happened and somebody turned him in. I know a number of students at the time thought the punishment was far worse than the crime. I had a classmate who had attended medical school prior to starting law school. But while seeking a summer job he told a potential employer his medical education had gone further then it had. The employer checked and called the school. That didn't go to the honor court, the law school immediately expelled him during Spring finals. I think it was a wonderful school, but if you go there make sure you are nothing but honest while enrolled.

  • @hashtag415
    @hashtag415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    General sir, shall we bury them according to state? "No, mix them up. I've had enough of state's rights." _General Meigs own words._

    • @_Abjuranax_
      @_Abjuranax_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kennesaw Mountain I believe is where he said it.

    • @claraengl9471
      @claraengl9471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe Grant and or Thomas said this after the battle of Lookout mountain in Chattanooga- Orchard Knob

    • @hashtag415
      @hashtag415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      According to Shelby Foote in the Ken Burns documentary "The Civil War", General Meigs made that statement at Arlington when asked about the placement of federal _union_ troop burials at Arlington National Cemetery.

    • @nora22000
      @nora22000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hashtag415 Can't quote Foote; he never made any footnotes or attributed anything to a recognized source. He was an accomplished storyteller, not an historian.

    • @hashtag415
      @hashtag415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nora22000
      That's odd. Britannica.com lists him as an American historian and author.

  • @charlesjenkins7130
    @charlesjenkins7130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been to Hollywood Cemetery. My grandma lived like three blocks away. I haven't been there in almost 20 years though.

  • @davidstewart5811
    @davidstewart5811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way we view our Civil War (talk about your odd expressions, as if any war could ever be "civil" ) seems to be rather unique in world history. Many countries have experienced the horror of civil war, and all saw the same depth of savagery that comes with a brother on brother conflict, especially a war that included religious factors as motivation. As savage as our war was, and recent research indicates we actually suffered in excess of over 960,000 dead and perhaps as many as twice that many wounded (a significant reversal of statistics due to the abysmal medical care available at the time), we seem to embrace the courage and honor of the soldiers of both sides. You would think that if patriotic fervor remained some 150 plus years after the fact, which it does (some of which clearly attaches to the continued delay in evolution of our maturity regarding minority rights and justice for all citizens), nonetheless we have removed the source of the individual soldiers' allegiance and instead concentrated on the more tangible nature of their devotion. An odd condition to be sure. You would think that participation in the "Southern Insurrection" would automatically include branding as being a traitor along with the same being applied to all family members in perpetuity. As an example, the Virginia Military Institute provided many fine, even outstanding officers, to the officer corp of the Confederacy and yet continues as one of the finest military institutes, certainly raking with West Point, Texas A & M University, Annapolis, and the US Air Force Academy.

  • @wendychavez5348
    @wendychavez5348 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My cousin was killed while serving in the Merchant Marines, but in his will he stipulated that he wanted a tree to be planted with his ashes, so he ended up buried with our grandparents in northern New Mexico rather than at Arlington National Cemetery. I am proud of him for considering our Earth even through his death and decomposition, though in doing so he missed out on the honor of being interred in that prestigious place.

  • @helgabluestone2407
    @helgabluestone2407 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ft Monroe is a beautiful place. I'm glad it's been preserved as a park

  • @romeocarter360
    @romeocarter360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great reporting.

  • @jackphillips3512
    @jackphillips3512 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is a beautiful estate and cemetery. I highly recommend you visit it along with nearby Mt. Vernon (Home of George Washington).

  • @abdulhamidozturk
    @abdulhamidozturk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting as always.

  • @romeocarter360
    @romeocarter360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What they dont teach you at school.

    • @apocalypse487
      @apocalypse487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did for me. Went to school in Arlington County, VA.

  • @BrianJosephMorgan
    @BrianJosephMorgan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!

  • @joshuaridgway3230
    @joshuaridgway3230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, I think Lee would have been satisfied that the place was used specifically for a military cemetery. Not happy that his house and his wife’s ancestral home was seized in such a manner, but if it had to happen it’s better than it being sold off and destroyed simply to stick it to him. He devoted nearly all his life to the army after all.
    I think that he’d be proud it would come to be considered a great honor these days for a family to have someone buried in Arlington.

  • @mattelder1971
    @mattelder1971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live near Beauvoir. It isn't NEAR Biloxi, it's right in the middle of the Biloxi beachfront, next door to the Gulf Coast Coliseum.

    • @mattelder1971
      @mattelder1971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, and congratulations on at least somewhat pronouncing the name of the city correctly. Many Americans don't even get it right. The correct way is BILL-ux-E.

  • @BS-nv4ns
    @BS-nv4ns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Simon, fellow early commenters.

  • @gungriffen
    @gungriffen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    With Lee being a Military man of honor and Washington founding this country I figured both would be happy that the property is held in high regard in the US today with a great deal of our greatest heroes buried there.

    • @lemaygaming6952
      @lemaygaming6952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gungriffen And greatest traitors.

    • @HovektheArtist
      @HovektheArtist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lemaygaming6952 just the leg of the great traitor, afterall it left his body before he was a traitor

    • @_Abjuranax_
      @_Abjuranax_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Boot Monument is in Saratoga NY.

    • @HovektheArtist
      @HovektheArtist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Abjuranax_ shoot your right, i forgot his leg was butied where it fell not in arlington

  • @RyuuTenno
    @RyuuTenno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For someone who's British, you sure do go over quite a bit of American stuff. 😂😂

    • @badgerattoadhall
      @badgerattoadhall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Largest market.

    • @TodayIFoundOut
      @TodayIFoundOut  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is an American company :-) -Daven

    • @RyuuTenno
      @RyuuTenno 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TodayIFoundOut that makes sense now

    • @jjdogg0
      @jjdogg0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We win lots of wars

    • @nathanialramirez160
      @nathanialramirez160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *cough* except for Nam *wheeze*

  • @iancornell141
    @iancornell141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should make a video on the SS officer buried at Arlington

    • @LouisianaJesse
      @LouisianaJesse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Say whaaat? A Nazi in Arlington National Cemetery?

    • @Simonsvids
      @Simonsvids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LouisianaJesse That is so weired it should be covered by The History Guy.

    • @themobseat
      @themobseat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Former SS Officer Larry Allan Thorne
      allthatsinteresting.com/larry-thorne

  • @TeslaHaxz
    @TeslaHaxz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Robert E Lee, was such a great guy. If he held all the same opinions and decided to be a general for the union, he would be considered a war hero by all, surely.

    • @MendTheWorld
      @MendTheWorld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was a racist bigot for his entire life, a traitor to his own country, who led a military insurrection aimed at defending the institution of slavery and white privilege that caused the deaths of well more than half a million of America’s finest young men. Where exactly is the “great” part?

    • @TeslaHaxz
      @TeslaHaxz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MendTheWorld stopped reading at "bigot" seems pretty great to me

    • @MendTheWorld
      @MendTheWorld 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tesla Haxz I guess that means you read five words then. I hope you will give greater consideration and respect for this thoughtful essay by retired US Army General Stanley McChrystal on what led him to reach the painful decision to take down the portrait of Robt. E. Lee that had been on his wall for many years. It’s very well written, and worth reading.
      www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/why-i-threw-away-my-portrait-robert-e-lee/573631/

  • @boomznbladez405
    @boomznbladez405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As i said in your gettysburg video... it is nice to see someone from across the pond give such an objective yet respectful look on our History...
    I was born in the South (US) but dont hold much of the beliefs of my family(im not a rascist, i guess you could call me the black sheep of the family), or those who came before me (quite a few ancestors of mine fought for the Confederacy), i still appreciate sincere and respectful attempts to portray my regions history...
    Though i dont support what they stood for, i can almost feel what they felt in my blood, as if im going against the grain...
    Hard to explain the position of a southern white boy who believes in black lives matter, etc.

    • @MendTheWorld
      @MendTheWorld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I very much respect the path you have taken. It’s very difficult to defy the norms of your culture, and in this case your family as well, to stand up for a set of beliefs and principles that transcend tribalism.
      Much of the loyalty that is demanded of present day members of the Republican party is of this kind. Anyone who dares to question or defy the will of the central commissariat, or the Dear Leader, is castigated, vilified, and reviled. It’s happened to any number of Republicans over the past few years, and the rest quake in fear that the same might happen to them some day.
      I hope you have withstood it, as it seems you have, knowing it was the right thing to do.

    • @boomznbladez405
      @boomznbladez405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MendTheWorld indeed. The only correction is that they are "southern democrats" or "blue" democrats. Which are basically hold outs from when Democrats were pro slavery and Republicans were the progressive ones(Lincoln). A lot of southerners never changed to the Republican party when the belief structures of the party seemingly switched sometimes in the 19th century, early 20th.
      But yeah for a large part of my youth it caused me to be very conflicted. I wanted to be accepted and loved by family. Be one of them. So on and so forth... Like i can remember the jokes and talk around the dinner table about "brothers of the darker persuasion" and "undesirables". And as a kid of course i laughed. But it sickens me now... Thankfully the lord, jah, universe, whatever you call it... Put in my path to show me what real family was and what real compassion is, at the hands of those i was taught to fear, hate, and judge.
      And of course now being almost 30, and going through this decades long journey, it is no question in my mind i made the right choice. And its not even difficult to me... Im at least 50 times the person i would have been if had stuck with "the south will rise again" war cry.
      I remember going back home a few years ago. My granddad tried to talk to me and i wanted to talk to him... But i wasnt taking part in the same old ignorance i was raised in... And he said to me "I miss my old grandson, idk how to talk to you anymore".
      Does that hurt. Yeah... But because hes not willing to grow to talk to me :(...
      I love them none the less. Just as i love the south. But you can love those who arnt right and are messed up.

  • @gacharose1738
    @gacharose1738 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My cousin s husband in buried in Arlington cemetery. Worked on DEW line in Alaska. Her son took her to foulis castle this past summer. She was disappointed, they have turned it into a hotel. Home of the Munro s.

  • @ChrisJeffersonJones
    @ChrisJeffersonJones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Constitutional Law - 14th Amendment Section 3
    Probably quite relevant today ...

  • @KrystalPancakes
    @KrystalPancakes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too early for the CC :( I will check back later. Love your content!!

  • @danielschein6845
    @danielschein6845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The story I heard was that Meig's son was killed in action and that his recommendation to turn General Lee's home into a cemetery was an act of grieving rage. He supposedly said that Lee could wake up ever morning and see what he did when he looked out his bedroom window. Anyone know if the story is true?

    • @michaelperry3138
      @michaelperry3138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro the shamrock shakes are out

    • @elfdream2007
      @elfdream2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meigs hated Lee for siding with the south before his son's death.

  • @adamhart1419
    @adamhart1419 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Danville, GA > Washington, GA is about 100 miles
    Washington, GA > Irwinville, GA is about 270 miles (and you have to go back past Danville to get there)
    Given he was travelling with his family he would have probably been in a horse and buggy so travelling about 2-4 mph.
    Seems like the 1st Wisconsin and 4th Michigan cavalries weren't really trying very hard

  • @MrEvanfriend
    @MrEvanfriend 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I drive by Arlington National Cemetery every day on the way to work.

    • @the.anxious.crafter
      @the.anxious.crafter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel sorry for you! D.C. traffic sucks!

    • @MrEvanfriend
      @MrEvanfriend 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@the.anxious.crafter I live and work in Virginia, and get in early before rush hour. I avoid DC at all costs.

    • @the.anxious.crafter
      @the.anxious.crafter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrEvanfriend I had to drive from Virginia to New Jersey and back again last month. I managed to avoid the rush hour going up, but my GPS took me all over D.C. right during rush hour. It was a nightmare!

  • @barrywerdell2614
    @barrywerdell2614 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a firm belief that graveyards and Cemeteries are mostly a large waste of space but Arlington with it's Very Historical past is one of the great exceptions. With this outbreak Simon and I are getting to be old friends.

  • @bla2220
    @bla2220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    What do Robert E. Lee's current descendants think of Arlington

    • @eliscanfield3913
      @eliscanfield3913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Bobby IV probably doesn't mind. He quite publicly disagreed with Trump calling his name sake "great" www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/10/14/trump-called-robert-e-lee-great-general-robert-lee-iv-disagrees/

    • @daerdevvyl4314
      @daerdevvyl4314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Bryan McGucken That’s kind of ridiculous. Calling someone a great general doesn’t mean that the cause they’re fighting for is great. It means that they’re great at being a general. And by all measures Lee was very great at being a general. I’m forced to conclude that his descendant was only saying that because he believed it was expected of him, which doesn’t speak well of Robert Lee IV’s integrity. We are going to eventually be forced to retroactively condemn everybody who lived before 1968 if this keeps up.

    • @gkman815
      @gkman815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bryan McGucken from a military standpoint Robert E Lee was a Great General.

    • @eliscanfield3913
      @eliscanfield3913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not my opinion, it's his grandson's.

    • @jdawg9742
      @jdawg9742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's a great cause for it to be used as it is has been for a cemetary for those who are unknown or too poor otherwise so they are honored after death. Also am glad that Uncle Sam actually paid a decent sum to the family to get it after it being handed back to us.

  • @Nafetitive
    @Nafetitive 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Thirteenth Amendment Abolished slavery, whereas the Emancipation Proclamation did not Free a single Slave, as it only applied to those held in bondage within the Confederate States (who did not recognize Lincoln's authority to do so).

  • @tjwatts1207
    @tjwatts1207 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Simon Whistler - Growing the Stache out dude?

  • @Eclektc
    @Eclektc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The Rise and Fall of The Confederate Government" is an excellent read aside from the racism. The economic and financial points of view on reconstruction are especially enlightening but very offsetting of where our country is today, as well as the elites that made and still run it.

  • @mitchellcorona8
    @mitchellcorona8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Point of order , I am unaware of Jefferson Davis was ever personally responsible for any war crimes.

    • @sschmidtevalue
      @sschmidtevalue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Regarding Davis: Going to war to defend slavery would qualify as a war crime in my judgment.

    • @MendTheWorld
      @MendTheWorld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the excuse that every vile despot throughout history has invoked to claim innocence for the crimes committed by persons under their leadership.

    • @_Abjuranax_
      @_Abjuranax_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He wasn't; In fact he had a sterling reputation before, during, and after the war. The only person convicted for war crimes after the Civil War was Wurz, the Commandant of Andersonville prison. And it retrospect, it was somewhat of a kangaroo court, as Northern prisons where not much better. With the South losing the war and facing food shortages themselves, they certainly were not going to give more food to Federal prisoners than to their own troops. But someone had to take the blame, and it was his neck they stretched.

    • @nora22000
      @nora22000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Abjuranax_ Davis recruited West Point officers for the rebel cause and organized theft of ordnance while still Secretary of War. George Thomas mentioned this.
      Whitewashing their reputations was a confederate talent.

  • @wholeNwon
    @wholeNwon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gen. Meigs' own son was killed in the war. He is not buried at Arlington though Gen. Meigs is. Meigs stayed with Lincoln in the Peterson House until the President died.

  • @Defixio.
    @Defixio. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Southern towns generally have a Robert e Lee and Jeff Davis street.

    • @Louis_Davout
      @Louis_Davout 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And they usually meet at Slavery Square...

  • @JohnSmith-le6md
    @JohnSmith-le6md 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good

  • @andrewgillis3073
    @andrewgillis3073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robert E. Lee was the only West Point cadet to graduate with no demerits.

  • @Nymfaelar
    @Nymfaelar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me: I don't really care about a cemetery
    Simon: The Surprisingly Super Interesting Origin of...
    Me: Alright, I trust you Simon..*click*

  • @isabelleoh-criner6697
    @isabelleoh-criner6697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to know some history behind all the names in my city, Jacksonville, FL. You can take the Arlington expressway all the way to downtown. If you turn on Jeff Davis St, you’ll eventually end up at Stanton College Prep. Oh and you can’t forget about Robert E. Lee high school.

  • @jakejake708
    @jakejake708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Then why does he have a monument in southern Kentucky?

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The last bit about Jefferson Davis is almost word for word exactly the same as the video that specifically described what happened to him, that was uploaded about 3 years ago
    th-cam.com/video/5nHNTQ81QKg/w-d-xo.html

    • @Mirokuofnite
      @Mirokuofnite 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, this channel does recycle content and reupload.

    • @joshuaridgway3230
      @joshuaridgway3230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It might have got taken down for some reason and they felt it was worth it to repost. They did the same thing with Nick Cage’s purchases

  • @MarkEsquivel1229
    @MarkEsquivel1229 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lee's view on slavery are very similar to those of Washington

  • @Heiscoming002
    @Heiscoming002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I have this all messed up....fix it. It’s supposed to be about Robert E. Lee not Arlington!

  • @grendalnewgod
    @grendalnewgod 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jefferson Davis was captured 13 miles from my home.

  • @medusagorgo5146
    @medusagorgo5146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I went there and escorted some fellow veterans on a Honor Flight. We watched the changing of the guard and it was so moving, the only thing that ruined it was the couple who decided that it was a “good “ opportunity to take a selfie with the guards and the tomb in the background, (while the ceremony was happening) while everyone else is being quiet and respectful, they wanted to act like selfish twats.

  • @WeyleaderMry
    @WeyleaderMry 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad once told me about this...

  • @TheJoeSwanon
    @TheJoeSwanon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I cannot believe they did not give this guy a summary execution

  • @Louis_Davout
    @Louis_Davout 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So...
    Did anyone collect the reward for the capture of Jefferson Davis?
    Or did the government find some excuse not to pay?

  • @darkpirate6
    @darkpirate6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact my great grandmas cousin was Jefferson Davis

    • @daerdevvyl4314
      @daerdevvyl4314 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan VanMeter Then you and Davis are first cousins twice removed.

  • @evanjohnson6600
    @evanjohnson6600 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Believe it or not I have a friend that’s related to Jefferson Davis they lived on land that was once apart of his estate here in arkansas until the banks took it from them so they lost almost 200 years worth of family history sad stuff

  • @hopelessent.1700
    @hopelessent.1700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Born in Arlington and it’s an odd fact that we have the cemetery and the Pentagon as the only known things...

    • @glasstuna
      @glasstuna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Born in North Tonawanda and all we have is old wood!

  • @trevorslinkard31
    @trevorslinkard31 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where does winking come from and what does it actually mean?

  • @sebastianduran2022
    @sebastianduran2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For April fools day you should do a whole video in Czech. No captions or anything, just confuse the fuck out of everyone who isn’t Czech

  • @AtomicReverend
    @AtomicReverend 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only question you left unanswered is why was his body moved?

  • @jakeblanton6853
    @jakeblanton6853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To say that a state cannot secede from the country is like saying that once you are married, you are forced to remain married regardless of how physically abusive your spouse eventually becomes. You need to be able to recognize that you made a mistake and end the association with the party in question.

    • @nora22000
      @nora22000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But whose state is it? The 1% that started the war? The slaves who produced the wealth? The poor, landless whites who became the confederate soldiers?
      Nope, no secession is possible. The land itself is part of the Union and the people have only the limited powers of local government.
      This was decided by the Framers of the US Constitution when the loose association of sovereign states didn't work. The confederacy proved it with blood when they couldn't even agree on a flag or cooperate in victory or defeat. Sad.

    • @jakeblanton6853
      @jakeblanton6853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nora22000 -- The North started the war by their election of Lincoln. He then raped the Constitution in his pursuit of his "little war". The Founding Fathers designed us as a loose union of Sovereign States. Lincoln's rape of the Constitution made us into a Union of *subject* states. The capitalization is importing in that statement. By your definition, one you divorce yourself from your abusive spouse, then the spouse gets all the property in the divorce and you are left with nothing.

  • @OkieVet918
    @OkieVet918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot one small detail (not really small), While an incredible piece of history, the Emancipation Proclamation didn't actually free any slaves. The Proclamation was written to only free slaves in the "Southern States" however, slaves in the North (of which they did still exist during the Civil War) also President Lincoln had no Constitutional authority over the Southern States, they had already seceded from the Union and were by all legal rights a distinct and separate country.
    From a strictly legal standpoint, until the end of the war, and Reconstruction, the Emancipation Proclamation was just a PR stunt. It held no legal power until the South surrendered.

    • @josephwebb5663
      @josephwebb5663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael McClister Sr. Well put

    • @josephwebb5663
      @josephwebb5663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael McClister Sr. I think Lincoln was a good man but he was also a bit of a tyrant

  • @ladykoiwolfe
    @ladykoiwolfe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arlington is quite beautiful.
    But since when is it for non military personnel?
    It feels cheapened to bury sports stars...unless they were military men as well.

    • @lucybronkema6486
      @lucybronkema6486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It looks so beautiful on a cold January day

  • @thescoobymike
    @thescoobymike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In all other areas we've progressed except for suicide watch I guess

  • @simonkimberly6956
    @simonkimberly6956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn’t mention br compression in the ad! Its an essential part! You fool!

  • @thesswb4463
    @thesswb4463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shouldnt this be today I found out with a second geographics brand?

  • @noone6812
    @noone6812 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting.

  • @mark_21
    @mark_21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    some of this info about insurrection is suddenly very relevant.

  • @StudleyDuderight
    @StudleyDuderight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do not play War Thunder. The developer is super greedy. They constantly add over-priced vehicles that completely break game balance. The game may be free to play but you will constantly feel pressured to pay your way through the horrible grind. Instead of encouraging people to pay by providing a quality experience Gaijin and Tencent use frustration to "force" payment.

  • @cagedtigersteve
    @cagedtigersteve 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lee was #2....who was #1, Grant?

  • @murrvvmurr
    @murrvvmurr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would say marbled cake, more than melting pop. But national narrative gotta narrate

  • @ZippoX05
    @ZippoX05 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How'd I get here this early?

  • @laztoth3104
    @laztoth3104 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy!!!! The HISTORY.
    Many Thanks "Simon" too all that " Work Together" to learn about the History again RESPECT and GODSPEED too All🙏🙏

  • @tomfinochio3044
    @tomfinochio3044 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hung as a trader?

  • @S71N63R
    @S71N63R 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You say, "merry-land" we say "merril-land"

  • @robertdeen8741
    @robertdeen8741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I seem to recall the north ran out of space to bury their dead. That's when Lincoln said "Bury them in Lee's front yard".
    Is there any truth to that?

    • @commonsense5125
      @commonsense5125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      None it was done on the orders of the commander of the area garrison.

  • @stenbak88
    @stenbak88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprising? I don’t know that’s the word

  • @cuttwice3905
    @cuttwice3905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Montgomery Meigs (the general) is pronounced [Meg's] not [Mee'gz]. Things I learned when I took a class for one of my hobbies.

  • @thedamnyankee1
    @thedamnyankee1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait this inst business blaze!

  • @CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq
    @CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simon just shook the hornets nest.

  • @TheSassygrasshopper
    @TheSassygrasshopper 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When do you sleep simon

  • @quasinfinity
    @quasinfinity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Your pronunciation of Maryland is triggering me so hard. Schwa: "ə" is the most common vowel sound.
    Maryland rhymes with "ferry hand" the exact same way Yorkshire rhymes with "torque fire." That is to say they don't, the difference? SCHWAS!
    Aside but related : you and your accent are sexy as hell. So if you have a 3+ syllable word and you're adding a stress to every syllable, that's not you making it sound sexy and exotic, it's you making it sound sexy and very wrong. And that makes it very confusing, it's like "is that just how Brits pronounce it, or am I just so soothed by his voice that idgaf" which of course leads to "damnit, he's married, I'm gonna write an angry comment about non localized pronunciation!" and then we arrive at well...
    Schwa: ə

    • @Sigurther
      @Sigurther 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure Yorkshire sounds more like 'torque fear'. Kind of like Worcestershire sauce. 'wooh-ster-sheer'
      Live in Maryland for three years and most commonly heard it pronounced mair-ih-lnd', like there wasn't even a vowel in the last syllable.

    • @choqlit
      @choqlit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! Between this and Potomac, I dread every time he covers a story of the Mid-Atlantic

    • @CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq
      @CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of which explains Marylebone.

    • @coleworld4385
      @coleworld4385 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soooo Maryland was named BY THE BRITISH in honor of Queen Mary, I think. But I know it was by the British. Him being British, and due to language changing over time, I’m assuming it was originally closer to his pronunciation. We just got lazy. Like I live in Dayton. If you pronounce the “t”, you’re weird. But most people would bc it’s in there and the guys name was Jonathon Dayton, and when historians pronounce it, they say the “t”. The meaning and pronunciation of words is very vast and very much based on where you are from. There are a ton of words that the British pronounce very different from us... maybe mix some history and reality in with your English lessons....

    • @quasinfinity
      @quasinfinity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coleworld4385 You're right, I should have included more history and reality.
      So for history : Maryland was named after Henriette Marie de France, Queen Consort to Charles I... Not whatever you made up.
      For reality : it was never pronounced "Mary. Land." for the same reason they're not pronounced "Ice. Land." nor "Green. Land." All dialects of English have stressing associated with vowel reduction. There are some dialects which will express or assimilate different sounds, like flapping the r (which is what you do to the t in mountain or Dayton), dropping the d, or maybe not even go full schwa and instead going closer to the i in "sit" or the e in "set." All of which I'd still consider within the realm of one of the English phonologies.
      About the only time you would get a cluster of "tense" vowels is when you're attempting to pronounce a foreign word in a more native way, but as we agree, Maryland is English. Actually, this isn't even the first time Simon has truly butchered a pronunciation in this way. It seems like when he comes across an unfamiliar word he voices every letter like he's reading Cyrillic. Maybe he's a Russian spy? Heh.
      But no, the way he pronounced is not proper British English, nor any other dialect, currently. And if you know of evidence of non-vowel reduction possibly in Middle or Old English, let me know... I admit my academic curiosity with languages is more rooted in the present.

  • @wuestion9473
    @wuestion9473 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP old thumbnail.