@robez0256 nah it was black flash(death) it tried to kill wally but killed Linda then wally was depressed it cam back he fought it by racing to very start of time where death doesn't exist and brought back linda
@@d.g.t.l6292I’m pretty sure it’s specifically death for speedsters, who have overstepped in someway. In Wally’s case, I believe he took too much power from the speedforce
@@drake7836 Well yeah, but since it applies to wally in this vid/conversation, and we wouldn't really be talking about anyone else, especially ones who are not speedsters, it really is the concept of death for wally so I thought anyone replying would pertain to that anyway
But it’s not a concept. The death he’s talking about is black flash, which is basically a zombified version of zoom but either way, it’s a tangible object, not a concept.
Didn't Barry do that too? And also saved like 500k Koreans in a few seconds or something, from a nuclear bomb ? Running like million times the speed of light (which has no sense at all at light speed everything is instantaneous...)
theres a comic i think its rebirth and its from the negative speedforce barry got some sort of connection and bullets shatter if they get close to him its really werid cause most of the time its red but in this comic it was black
The thing about Wally that i like is his connection to the speed force is higher than any speedster ever. But the reason I love Barry even more is because later in life he literally became the speed force. And died early on. My theory on it would be that if barry didnt die and hoaned in more of his speed he would be like Wally. Wally is simply a prodigy. P.S every feat Wally has done Barry has also done accept turning his lightning white. Both amazing character tho 😊
Barry has actually turned his lightning white when he fought the reverse flash during the new 52 era I believe after the future flash storyline and Barry figured out the reverse flash can slow down time but Barry can speed up time around him which allowed him to defeat reverse flash pretty easily and his lightning turned white
Pretty sure there is no mention in rebirth of his time being trapped in the speedforce making him faster. He was already the fastest before they got rid of him in New 52
@MasterTemplar781Not true. When Wally first started as the flash Barry was dead and it remained that way for 20 years. Almost everything people love about the flash including the speeforce was created during Wallys time as the flash. The most popular and beloved flash run by Mark Waid feature Wally as the flash and even now the main flash books once again stars Wally West as the premier flash.
dude, by tapping into the speed force ( an omnipresent that literally the definition of moving, kinetic energy itself ) allowed to run faster than TSOL and even allowed to time travel and many thing.
Barry being the speed force was a stupid retcon created so they can glaze him when they brought him back(against the wishes of the entire comic and cartoon community). It broke litterally all canon for nearly 30 years and was quickly retconned.
Wally was always faster than Barry prior to his return. Wally just had mental blocks where he subconsciously made sure he never outran Barry’s top speeds because he felt like he could never live up to Barry or The Flash mantle. Him outrunning the concept of Death was before he got trapped inside the Speed Force and he even beat instant teleportation.
no..he didn't created the speed force, speed force is a cosmic forces, one of the 7 cosmic forces that push the time and space forward, and Barry is not the first speedster who can tapped into the speed force, it was Max Mercury, the zen master of speed aka Wally West mentor and in one of the issues of the Flash, Grodd said that he know Barry is the Flash and the reason why he's fast, he understand the speed force scientifically, but when he saw Wally, he said that the other Flash (Wally take Barry's position as Central City's Flash due to Barry lost his power) is different, he understand the speed force spiritually, so basically Barry understand the power source by logic but Wally understand it by heart since he was mentored by Max Mercury, and Wally is always faster than Barry
@@purple_guy910 In Geoff Johns's Flash: Rebirth yes, it was said that Barry created speedforce when the accident happened, but then it was countermanded in the New 52's that speedforce always exist long before Barry got struck by lightning, and in the 2016 comic, it was revealed that speedforce is one of the 7 cosmic forces
Wally West is the fastest because his lightning color is white which indicates he is faster than light and the white color is the purest color that have connection with the speed force. With his white lightning he combines all the other colors in one to make him the fastest ever. I rest my case
@@splashboi898the lightning colors actually mean nothing the speed force did that to differentiate between speedsters old and new. Because look at the xs speedster her lightning color is purple and it never changes because it is unique to her character. But it doesn’t mean that she is not getting faster.
It would be mad cool if in CW Flash wally progressively got stronger and stronger after savatar and saved everything at the end by running with a new enchanced force of speed instead of flash mediating
When I first watched the Flash, when it was coming out, the first season ended with Barry running into the black hole. And so, I thought that season 2 would be about Barry meeting another speedster in the portals and trying to catch him, eventually revealing the speedster to be Wally West. This was because of murmurings regarding Rebirth Wally, the comics, and also the death of Wally in Young Justice. I firmly believed they would do a reveal in the CW show that Wally has been trapped for decades in the speedforce. Unfortunately it never happened.
In young justice wally is much slover than barry and imapct, he cant understand their superspeed talming and in the end he dies because he was not fast enogh?
no the speedforce didn't make his lightning white his suit did he made his suit out of speedforce energy and it let him change what color is lightning was he chose white so him and barry are differentiated
He’s only portrayed as slower as Kid Flash, which has been the case in every canon. As kid flash he was still a novice. After he became The Flash, he’s always been the fastest. It’s like how Dick Grayson as Robin is lesser than Batman, but is always shown to be a better hero when he becomes Nightwing.
Wally west has been the flash since 1986 lmao. He was The Flash for 23 years until Barry was revived in 2009. And then Wally returned as A flash in 2016 with Rebirth, and became the main flash again in 2021.
@@Lasharkus wow that's it Wally West can speed steal and steal his and everybody else's speeds Wally West can literally outrun the the very essence of the speed force itself making him outerversal Quicksilver gets put in a body bag Wally West can outrun freaking teleportation Wally West outrun very concept of death itself when Quicksilver has speed Feats of him out running Concepts then we can talk until then Quicksilver is just at best a faster than light fodder
He outran black flash(death) before he got trapped in the speed force
Black racer pretty sure
@robez0256 nah it was black flash(death) it tried to kill wally but killed Linda then wally was depressed it cam back he fought it by racing to very start of time where death doesn't exist and brought back linda
(Jjk refernce?)where you go I go
@@pigster1813I think it's a reference to "black racer"
@@ScrappySC69420ur onto nothing bro?what the-💀💀
Outrunning Superman isnt really a feat. All of those races with Flash and superman were all for charity and was barely a real competition
If Superman was running but if he was not holdover by back when he flies he is faster than flash
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You know it’s ridiculous when he’s outrunning CONCEPTS
Well black flash is death loll
@@d.g.t.l6292I’m pretty sure it’s specifically death for speedsters, who have overstepped in someway. In Wally’s case, I believe he took too much power from the speedforce
@@drake7836 Well yeah, but since it applies to wally in this vid/conversation, and we wouldn't really be talking about anyone else, especially ones who are not speedsters, it really is the concept of death for wally so I thought anyone replying would pertain to that anyway
me running from responsibility
But it’s not a concept. The death he’s talking about is black flash, which is basically a zombified version of zoom but either way, it’s a tangible object, not a concept.
Wally West's greatest feats was being faster than instant teleportation
But he needed the speed of everyone in the earth and the other guy i forgot the name but he is still the fastest tho
Didn't Barry do that too? And also saved like 500k Koreans in a few seconds or something, from a nuclear bomb ? Running like million times the speed of light (which has no sense at all at light speed everything is instantaneous...)
@@TsuKuSsLight is not instantaneous.
No that was Barry allen
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i find it hilarious how somany people use photos of Bart as Kid Flash when speaking on Wallys early years
Not even real bart, isn't that guy "bar tor" .
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Not even Bart Allen, that’s Bar Torr the Future Terr*rist.😂
It is funny since he isn’t even ginger, it’s so easy to see that it’s not wally
Wally: OH shit I gotta go
Why??!!
Wally: Death is just around the corner
That's true. He's officially the fastest man alive
Is there a black lightning 👴🏻
Yea, it is held by Meena Dhawan in the flash, it is artificial speed
theres a comic i think its rebirth and its from the negative speedforce barry got some sort of connection and bullets shatter if they get close to him its really werid cause most of the time its red but in this comic it was black
that’s not even funny it has literally nothing to do with the video
@@AcademicJaedon white - black
@@AcademicJaedon it was
The thing about Wally that i like is his connection to the speed force is higher than any speedster ever. But the reason I love Barry even more is because later in life he literally became the speed force. And died early on.
My theory on it would be that if barry didnt die and hoaned in more of his speed he would be like Wally. Wally is simply a prodigy. P.S every feat Wally has done Barry has also done accept turning his lightning white. Both amazing character tho 😊
Barry has actually turned his lightning white when he fought the reverse flash during the new 52 era I believe after the future flash storyline and Barry figured out the reverse flash can slow down time but Barry can speed up time around him which allowed him to defeat reverse flash pretty easily and his lightning turned white
Pretty sure there is no mention in rebirth of his time being trapped in the speedforce making him faster. He was already the fastest before they got rid of him in New 52
Meanwhile young justice:
Slowest and had a painless death because of speed tornado
Fr this is so wrong we all know its the camera man
Truth.
Writer who saw everything before cameraman capture it: whatever makes you sleep at night
Speedrunner Mario is the only one faster than him he’s literally 4 parallel universes ahead of him Wally ain’t got nothing on him.
Death: your time has come
Wally: runs
Cameraman laughing in the corner
Cameraman dosen't exist in Comics assclown
Actually the fastest man alive is Buried Alien
In Marvel
Hey, that's my dad when he said he went to get the milk! 🥛
The camera man: you sure about that
Just imagine if a speedster stays in the speedforce for 100years
It's because being trapped in yhe speed force for so long allowed him to understand it on a spiritual level. To an extent no other speedster has.
Not even robins staff level
Can't stop the A Train
Outrunning death is wild
Imagine being called the fastest man alive just so you get beaten by a 1Meter height hedgehog
I wouldn't really say that 👀
Especially when wally keeps breaking his limits with relative ease
@darrydarry same with archie sonic bro. Both have crazy feats but I still think archie sonic wins
bro if Barry Allen never died in the comics he would of been faster
Its obviously the flash is the fastest.
Im intently not clarifying witch one.
i think its the flash
@@blockheadthealt No its the flash
It has the be the flash
Wally west is the flash
@MasterTemplar781Not true. When Wally first started as the flash Barry was dead and it remained that way for 20 years. Almost everything people love about the flash including the speeforce was created during Wallys time as the flash. The most popular and beloved flash run by Mark Waid feature Wally as the flash and even now the main flash books once again stars Wally West as the premier flash.
Didnt need that to outrun Superman 😂
Ah yes, fuck physics and just run faster than light
dude, by tapping into the speed force ( an omnipresent that literally the definition of moving, kinetic energy itself ) allowed to run faster than TSOL and even allowed to time travel and many thing.
Young justice better start taking notes
I had to look back this is truly America😅
Barry himself is the speed force and Wally has the greatest bond with the speed force
Barry being the speed force was a stupid retcon created so they can glaze him when they brought him back(against the wishes of the entire comic and cartoon community). It broke litterally all canon for nearly 30 years and was quickly retconned.
Bart randomly showing up...
flash has rainbow lighting
maybe barry when he ran so fasthe traveled to marvel and got amnesia .
Wally was always faster than Barry prior to his return. Wally just had mental blocks where he subconsciously made sure he never outran Barry’s top speeds because he felt like he could never live up to Barry or The Flash mantle. Him outrunning the concept of Death was before he got trapped inside the Speed Force and he even beat instant teleportation.
Well Wally doesn’t have his mental blocks anymore currently in the comics but Barry still does
wally accomplishing those feats really means that his weakness is the writers
*dies from a bullet during titans comic
What? Flash didn’t saved Wally, he’s just remembered about Wally who was trapped in the Speedforce while the whole universe forgot about him.
And that saved Wally, who was about to fade away because no one remembered it. It was only when Barry grabbed his hand that Wally became real again
Get him pass Iron Staff level 😭🙏
Why does Barry Allen not have the strongest connection to speed force tho? Didn’t he create it ?
no..he didn't created the speed force, speed force is a cosmic forces, one of the 7 cosmic forces that push the time and space forward, and Barry is not the first speedster who can tapped into the speed force, it was Max Mercury, the zen master of speed aka Wally West mentor
and in one of the issues of the Flash, Grodd said that he know Barry is the Flash and the reason why he's fast, he understand the speed force scientifically, but when he saw Wally, he said that the other Flash (Wally take Barry's position as Central City's Flash due to Barry lost his power) is different, he understand the speed force spiritually, so basically Barry understand the power source by logic but Wally understand it by heart since he was mentored by Max Mercury, and Wally is always faster than Barry
@@fadhelfarras1175 oh that makes sense then, thank you really never got a chance to get into comics so it’s totally something new for me
@@flamearcher8167you are a Chad
@@fadhelfarras1175barry created the speed force when the accident happened it has already been stated
@@purple_guy910 In Geoff Johns's Flash: Rebirth yes, it was said that Barry created speedforce when the accident happened, but then it was countermanded in the New 52's that speedforce always exist long before Barry got struck by lightning, and in the 2016 comic, it was revealed that speedforce is one of the 7 cosmic forces
Sonic has joins he chat💀
And he can also use the hardest power to use of the speed force and that's creating stuff from pure energy
He got trapped from 2011 to 2016. That's not a decade. That's five years.
Wally is so fast he can complete a decade in half the time!
archie sonic enters
Also Barry looks at the speed force from a scientific perspective however wally looks it at it from a spiritual one which is why he's so much faster
Superman Fan who just can't deal with the fact that The Flash is faster than Superman: *You listen here you little sh..👀*
Mentions wally, but shows Bart kid flash twice
I can’t stand when people act like it’s a surprise when flash outruns Superman. It’s not even a competition
This Kid flash is Bart Allen
As Victoriafire Thawne my husband, Professor Zoom is the one true speedster
speed of light: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Speed of light is a joke at this point
Camera man:nope he is not I am the fastest man alive
There's so much about this clip that's just weak information, and your editor grabbed New 52's Bar Torr Kid Flash pics, not young Wally. LMAO
cameraman: 🗿
Imagine using photos of another character when trying to explain one character
Godspeed
they forgot cameraman
The caremaman:
Wally obviously
oh held wally west!!!!
Wally West is the fastest because his lightning color is white which indicates he is faster than light and the white color is the purest color that have connection with the speed force. With his white lightning he combines all the other colors in one to make him the fastest ever. I rest my case
Wally is the fastest but not because of lightning. His current lightning color is orange/yellow
@@splashboi898the lightning colors actually mean nothing the speed force did that to differentiate between speedsters old and new. Because look at the xs speedster her lightning color is purple and it never changes because it is unique to her character. But it doesn’t mean that she is not getting faster.
@@kavarishettlesworth5929 that's literally what I said
We could get this in young Justice 👀. Wally is gone for a few years already . He could be in the Speed force
Barry Allen hands down
Nope barry is slow to wally
Wally plays with Barry.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Barry runs so fast he actually became a being of pure energy. Lightning turned blue and everything
In the flash show on Netflix it’s barry
It was not during the darkseid war, it was during Geoff Johns rebirth reboot
Wow, circled the globe 7 times in a second 👏
Superman flew around the entire universe in a second!
It would be mad cool if in CW Flash wally progressively got stronger and stronger after savatar and saved everything at the end by running with a new enchanced force of speed instead of flash mediating
When I first watched the Flash, when it was coming out, the first season ended with Barry running into the black hole. And so, I thought that season 2 would be about Barry meeting another speedster in the portals and trying to catch him, eventually revealing the speedster to be Wally West. This was because of murmurings regarding Rebirth Wally, the comics, and also the death of Wally in Young Justice. I firmly believed they would do a reveal in the CW show that Wally has been trapped for decades in the speedforce. Unfortunately it never happened.
Well to be fair the centre MK in Milton Keynes is pretty good
Camera man left the chat
Hope they continued young justice
For me is Dr.Manhattan
Fastest man in all multiverse unless the writers wants otherwise as usual
So what you’re saying is, young justice wally has hope he’s an alive!?
Yeah Wally West is the fastest flash However Barry said "I will always catch you".
for the very lastt time
Arci sonic stomps no deff
Neither of those pictures of Kid Flash are of Wally
Godspeed 😳
Young justice can bring him back with this one
Wally west can survive black hole
I hate how slow they made him in young justice
Fastest speedster in the universe? I must say made in heaven. Having infinite speed.
Wally west solos the verse
Wally solos honestly
"Speedster"
these jojo fans 🤦
Wally solos mih
It was me Barry.
Young justice would be great for bringing wally back
In young justice wally is much slover than barry and imapct, he cant understand their superspeed talming and in the end he dies because he was not fast enogh?
I was looking for someone who would say this 😊
no the speedforce didn't make his lightning white his suit did he made his suit out of speedforce energy and it let him change what color is lightning was he chose white so him and barry are differentiated
I m pretty sure u mixed up alot of his-tory
Wolfgang Schreiber with her briah is faster from shinza bansho
Isn’t he one of the slower characters in certain canons
He’s only portrayed as slower as Kid Flash, which has been the case in every canon. As kid flash he was still a novice. After he became The Flash, he’s always been the fastest.
It’s like how Dick Grayson as Robin is lesser than Batman, but is always shown to be a better hero when he becomes Nightwing.
Barry allen is always the og flash
Comics... wally
Movies... Barry
Winner... Batman
He’s not the fastest speedster. Actually, Lucifer is the fastest speedster in the universe, he is considered like a speedster
Then why is he the slowest in Young Justice? God willing, there is a season 5, Wally comes back and he and Artemis live happily ever after.
Look it up it literally says the flash is the fastest 😂
Wally west is the flash
Wally west has been the flash since 1986 lmao. He was The Flash for 23 years until Barry was revived in 2009. And then Wally returned as A flash in 2016 with Rebirth, and became the main flash again in 2021.
Barry Allen is already faster than Superman saying that Wally West did it is like saying oh wow he can beat somebody else's record
he couldnt outrun death. death caught up, but died because he was outside the end of the universe and death cant exist without the existence of life
The Quickster could easily clap
hell no
@@darthhorizon1735 hell ya
@@Lasharkusname one feat he has that is better than wall west
@@darthhorizon1735 out ran the fastest man around duh
@@Lasharkus wow that's it Wally West can speed steal and steal his and everybody else's speeds Wally West can literally outrun the the very essence of the speed force itself making him outerversal Quicksilver gets put in a body bag Wally West can outrun freaking teleportation Wally West outrun very concept of death itself when Quicksilver has speed Feats of him out running Concepts then we can talk until then Quicksilver is just at best a faster than light fodder
Bro that Kid Flash is Barr Torr, not Wally