@@ЕвгенийВоробьев-т7с yeah but either the 1st person part is really unimportant, and done very poorly, or the commander role is super unintuitive and super complex and unfun
@@jryde421 only thing they screwing up rn is the Xbox DayZ servers but at the same time not enough ppl to complain about them for bohemia to change anything
Game mechanics issues and budget. If you have an FPS RTS game packed into one, it's literally the equivalent of making two games at the same time which is very expensive to make.
I've said for years that I can't believe no one has capitalized on this genre. Renegade multiplayer was so fun for its time. I can't wait to see where thisgame goes
The big companies typically don't like to jump into smaller genres, until they see someone else reach huge success with it. Kinda like battle royale's pre Pubg and Fortnite.
From memory I would say some tried it just never catched on. Back in the day I played Rise and Fall civilization at war, which was a fun RTS/TPS with heroes set during the antiquity, the game was fun but never became cult and had mixed review.
There's some feeling about these older style of games that's hard to put your finger on, like they're more grounded and real. Lots of modern games feel sort of hazy and unfocused. Glad it's still possible to recreate that feeling with modern projects
@@ARStudios2000basically, games before were done by artists. Nowadays, they are done by suits and focus groups and with predatory monitizations at the forefront.
@@TheBalls2thewalls couldn’t have said it better myself. Of course, some of the blame falls on consumers as well. Look at modern cinema, a movie like Blade Runner 2049 didn’t fare nearly as well as it should have because modern audiences crave Michael Bay explosions and sexed up women. But of course, that could also be an overgeneralization on moviegoers. Blade Runner is a bit of a strange film, even when already acknowledging its slower pace. However, the point remains that there is not as much of an appreciation today for a well thought out plot or gameplay that isn’t in your face with filler QTE’s and other gimmicks.
100% right. older games had CHARISMA. newer games feel "dead". BF2042 is a perfect example. there's 0 emotion in that game. it's just ... empty an dead. I had more fun playing a DEMO of TUROK back in the 90's than the full 2042 game. as this man said, game devs used to have artistic freedom. these days it's all about generating sh*tty content and cashing big bucks for it. everything else is unimportant to them.
I dunno if anyone remembers, but years ago there was a game being developed called "Tiberium" which was supposed to be exactly this, RTS FPS game set in the C&Q universe if memory serves, but later got cancelled much to my dismay as a kid. This game brings about that memory so vividly from what I'm seeing so far, and honestly makes me hope that such a genre makes a revival in this new age of gaming.
I still have the Game Informer Magazine, with that title as the cover. I remember it just never getting more attention, then like 3 years after it was canceled, me finding that out and being dissapointed.
There was a remake of renegade called Renegade X, but i dont remember if its still up and running these days. It was rly good when i played it back in 2013 or so
Theres this game series called executive assault which is exactly this genre and I think is criminally underrated. It is a bit rough around the edges but has truly given me and my friends so many good memories.
Well, my experience with Natural Selection has taught me that directly controlled human is scary for both the commander and the enemy. If the player is good, they think on their feet and have god tier "micro" skills while still accomplishing the task assigned. Alternatively, they can just sort of go fuck off and do what they want, often to the detriment of the team.
@@harrysarso Sure, but you have to assume this; if everyone goes in doubting the commander, then they just do what they want, whether or not the commander is good. This typically leads to a situation where the team will most likely lose since they aren't working together on objectives. There are exceptions to every situation of course, but commanders typically have a lot more information about the overall state of the game and therefor are better equipped to tell the grunts what they should be working on. It is for precisely this reason that in the real military, if you are given a lawful order you are expected to carry it out and disregarding the order can lead to a reduction in rank at best and even field execution at worst.
"G'dday lads. You're the cheap expendable scouts we're sending haphazardly throughout the entire map with no regard for your safety in order to find some sheep" "Say wha?"
Tried it the other day. It's obviously super unfinished but VERY promising. A great addition to the game would be the ability to switch between RTS and FPS mode whenever you want during single-player so you can experience both modes in one game.
Played it just now, It's honestly so fun to handle vehicles and bugs, terrain is a non-issue for bugs and watching a wave of them just straight up crawl all over huge tanks and buildings gave me such star trooper vibes than any other game. If they keep cooking this game in about a year i'd say it'd be as fun as playing star craft no lie.
It reminds me of a game called Battlezone, in late 90s, it was ahead of its time :) - would like to see more of this, especially the RTS part, looks great overall.
This looks like such a cool idea, now imagine one team controlling the bugs and the other controlling the humans, with like 128 players like its squad.
That’s how the game is going to be. Not that many people but the bugs will be a playable faction along with 2 human factions that are all fighting at once.
@@jayburn100 is squad an RTS with bugs and in the future on an alien planet? No it isn't it obviously wouldnt be like squad, it would be like an FPS RTS game with a lot of players.
Man C&C Renegade and Natural Selection were legendary. They were so underrated as a LAN party game because you really needed a lot of like minded players to play them well but when you have those moments, boy they were unbeatable in sheer fun and playability.
There's a super obscure game called "Battlezone" where they tried to make an FPS and RTS combo! I hope the whole thing takes off! It's a forgotten but very fun genre!
I have been waiting like 20 years for something like this. The first RTS i played as a young kid was mech commander and I've been looking for something to scratch that itch. Thank you Jack!
@@Bmuelr check out battlezone 2 my friend. It's an older game that's been remastered. But it's an fps/rts. In fact this game looks heavily inspired by battlezone
18 years ago when i was choosing between engineering and computer game design, I had an idea for a RTS/FPS mashup which is remarkably similar to this. Amazing to see after all these years this game has popped up. Can't wait to play it!
I also had a similar idea inspired by playing Command & Conquer Generals Zero Hour. So cool ti see this idea out here like this. Same with ARMA III and Men of War 2 and the mods that came along with it.
I have loved this genre since Battle Zone in the 90s. I have always wanted one that took place in space on carriers and battleships. Some players act as the bridge crew, with the captain controlling the overall battle strategy, and other players acting as infantry doing boarding actions or landing on planet surfaces and others piloting fighters and bombers. I imagined that all the units would be AI controlled, but players could queue up basically to play a fighter or a soldier and would then drop in to control one in an active game as they were available. So sometimes your units would be player controlled, and if they died, they'd take control of another unit nearby. I always thought it would be cool. Like Star Wars clone wars vibes with these ships showing up to planets and just fighting over the surface as well as duking it out in space. Having to deal with resupplying and reinforcing units on the ground while also doing space battles at the same time.
The eerie vibes that the almost empty desert gives compliments the large rush of enemies so well it’s like a movie scene and I’m all for it hopefully this game makes a splash
Seeing this game reminds me of the best FPS RTS games I remember called Battlezone and Battlezon2. Those were amazing for this unique genre that didn't have a good sizeable fanbase to keep it alive
Ita about damn time genre gets some much needed attention and a revival! This looks like it'd be a blast to play! We need more Starship Troopersesqe type games too 😂
The game looks really fun with replayability. This is the combination I was hoping for with a new Halo Wars. Being able to control ground and air units while being able to switch to commander or having a buddy play the role
if halo wars 3 becomes this, i would be in love forever... they have anounced they want to make halo wars 3 but have nothing more done about the whole ordeal so maybe they could take inspiration and make this type of game, who knows
Natural Selection was such a hidden gem and Im very happy they have produced a similar title in the modern age, thanks for shining a light on this Jack!
It surprised me how deep I had to go in the comments to see a single mention of Natural Selection which was the last king of this genre, that was such a sick game.
The only issue I think there is with this genre is a lot of people will want to be a commander and not many will want to be boots on the ground. Otherwise, I think it is an amazing-looking game! I wish there were more games like this as I do think it is a golden opportunity for a big dev to make huge.
BF2142 had the same problem. Or worse, you join a game with a crap commander. It’s going to be even worse here where the commander really needs some rts creds to do a good job
Reminds me of "Savage: The Battle for Newerth" which was basically a mix of RTS and First Person "Shooter" (it was mostly melee). But that concept with a SciFi Shooter theme ala Starship Troopers sounds like an absolute blast and looked great!
Savage was a great game and took the fight&command aspect of Battlezone to its perfection. Still remember the time i spent on Savage with friends, we had a couple of guys who were great commanders and the whole teching up to get better weapons before the beast faction players demolished us in melee was a rush
FPS+RTS is such an amazing mix. Natural Selection is one of the best games I have ever played. I miss it every day. Really glad to learn about this game, it's definitely looking unique. I hope the development advances well and it gets popular!
@@Bajtjr Yeah, NS2 is easily the best example of this game idea... but it's really hard to get right, since skill/experience makes an INSANE difference in how strong a team is... you could have a team of cracked troops, but a horrible commander can throw that away. And vise versa as well...
This would be a very cool team-building game to simulate the importance of logistics. You have the frontliners playing as their own characters and protecting the bases and extraction of resources. Then you have the guys on RTS-mode providing everything the frontliners need. The RTS players need the frontliners and vice versa to properly fight.
I have been HUNGRY for this kind of game! I loved (2005) Star Wars Battlefront 2's galactic conquest as an idea, and always wanted it to be expanded on!
One of my all time favorites of this genre was the Counter Strike mod "Empires" It was amazing. Later on the game Planetside used a similar formula, but Empires was so cool because it felt realisitc in its design, not necessarily futuristic like the Planetside series.
The most impressive thing about this title is that for the first time first persone and commander are actually made both really well instead of just picking one of the two to focus on and going along
Dude, Jack. This game looks phenomenal. Very impressed with the developer, the ideas he/they have for a game like this. I'm just a bit older than you and I was a huge fan and still am of command and conquer national selection and if you ever played Dystopia on steam that's another one that really gained my attention around the same time of natural selection. Thank You so much for finding such great titles of up and coming games.
I put hundreds of hours into both. Dystopia was great, a 'Tron' like feel to it. FPS while two were in a 'matrix' jacked in per say hacking to help. Fun times 👌
There's an Indie game being developed which has a very similar feel! I had to double check it wasn't the same game haha It's called Outpost: Infinity siege developed by a group called Team Ranger. Very cool RTS cross FPS Mech shooter vs aliens! It's looking like it's going to be reaaal cool!! The whole genre just brings back Battlezone vibes!
Ive said this for years, why cant a developer make a RTS and have real people on the ground. Such a cool idea and literally only a few games have ever attempted it. Thanks for showing this Jack
This looks AWESOME! - I used to play a bit of Command & Conquer: Tiberium Wars and Halo Wars back in the day... but allowing players to join and play in first person takes it to another level. I didn't even know about C&C Renegade or Natural Selection. I'd definitely play this game. I'm sure with a bit of polish like a more interesting and varied terrain and better looking building destruction, this game would really do well.
@Arais_Demlant bro I'm glad you mentioned battlezone, can't believe he left that one out. Glad I'm not the only one that noticed the battlezone similarities
OK this definitely brings me back to the Battlezone 2 days, CnC Renegade etc. Still some underground scenes modding Battlezone 2 alongside the Renegade X project today. I hope this gains traction. It would be immense to see some more physics based destruction in something like this. This genre is underrated for the possibilities.
Yes, many years ago I played some strategy game made by Microsoft where you could also control units. I already found Steam and bought Silica thanks to you..
I'd love to see more Natural Selection type games. Being able to play as an alien or something other than just typical humans is a lot of fun especially when you throw in multiplayer.
I've been obsessed with this genre since playing a demo of Urban Assault as a kid. There have been some decent attempts to make a game like this (parts of it look a LOT like Renegade X) but this is one of the most polished and I almost can't believe it's just one guy. I'm a little iffy on the setting but I might pick this up just for how unique it is.
Reminds of a game called Battlezone 2 (came out in 1999 I think I remember correctly and I just about got it running on my Pentium 233MMX...) and did a lot of what this seems to be doing- well worth checking out! This game looks promising for sure- nice catch Jack 👍
I used to play Savage for a bit back in the late 00s and I remember thinking the FPS RTS concept was pretty cool. Nice to see something new coming out.
I'm so glad this style of game is coming back. Natural selection was legendary, and it's a shame its popularity waned, but hopefully, this will be the revival that the series needs
A game like this can be an interesting comepetitive game if theres more meat to it. Think of it like Starcraft where you have to get resources to build up your base and army. The commander can build up the base while the other players are the army guys. The army guys go out to find resources to build up the base from scratch like blueprints for weapons, tanks, new buildings, etc. While at the same time finding resources along the way and killing enemies. The opposing team can do the same thing, but they're the crabs and building up a hive cluster base. The game can end with either team destroy each other's base and then switch sides after the match ends.
Wow I remember RTS games like Empire Earth, Warcraft II & Age of Empires really pulling me into gaming back in the day. This looks like a ton of satisfying gameplay.. I kinda hope they release this on consoles
YESSSSSS, we need this, I'm glad people like this dev exist, because a lot of the stuff that was done before is underrated and with new technology can be amazing
I remember my first time playing Savage and it was amazing! Would love to see this genre come back in full. Savage and it's sequal and Natural Selection and it's sequal are all I can really think of that had this sort of gameplay. I know there's been others (dirty bomb I think?) that took bits of the hybrid genre but not taking it to full RTS.
Savage! I was dating a girl whose brother managed one of those nerdy card shops in the mall (and it had computers for rent). They bought a ton of copies of Savage at release... and literally no one ever played them. I bought one of them shortly thereafter for $5. It was a neat game.
Command and conquer renegade pc multiplayer demo was my first big multiplayer online game i got into. So many memories just playing that 1 desert map. There was a hack some people were using where the engineer guy with the repair beam would 1 shot you/vehicles/buildings if he touched you with the beam
Similar concept to Battlezone (2 for me specifically) back in the day. That one, you built the base and such from a first person perspective which has a nice charm (until you built an uplink) That was an outstanding game, but, games that straddle two genres together can struggle (commercially) because people who are hardcore into one, often don't like the other. I hope this fares well!
This game should have huge potential to be great, especially if they allow mod support on the Steam Workshop. EDIT: The 40K Mods could be epic with a game built from the ground up with this type of gameplay in mind!!
One of my favorite games as a kid was Sanctum 2. It's a FPS Tower Defense game by the same studio that made Goat Simulator (but like, it's not a meme game like Goat Sim is XD). Great game, shame nobody plays it anymore. This video reminded me of it
I've been waiting for this kind of games for a really really long time, it seems extremely fascinating to me as a genre, I hope many more like this will be created
FINALLY I used to play a game that was FPS and RTS tower defense but I havnt been able to find it in forever. This fills the gap, and it looks SO good.
Im just so happy people are coming back to Natural Selection 2 because of it The game is still very much alive and its so fun hearing ppl talk about it and start playing it again Please come play with us
I dreamed for years for somebody to make star craft like game, where You can control individual units like in shooters. I believe one of battlefield games had this concept, where one player was a general, and he was giving orders to squads etc. But imagine how cool it would be, to relieve StarCraft missions as a hydralisk or a mamoth 😅
Might I recommend Executive Assault 2 as well? Its a pretty damn impressive RTS/FPS combo as well - although it focuses mainly on spaceship combat. It does have ground combat as well though within the bases and stations themselves.
Reminds me of that game where you could just build sandbag walls right up to the enemy base and block their harvester thingies in. They just stopped there and looked at the sandbags while you teched up and built a massive army and destroyed them hehehe. Might have been Command & Conquer, something like that anyway. Looks really cool though.
It's a classic RTS game, but you can actually play as one of the characters... that's a dream-come-true.
Bannerlord with Aliens and Soldiers ❤
The dream actually had come true a long time ago and has been around quite a while :D
It looks like the game "Eximius: Seize The Frontline"
@@ЕвгенийВоробьев-т7с yeah but either the 1st person part is really unimportant, and done very poorly, or the commander role is super unintuitive and super complex and unfun
lmao dream come true. I was playing games like this when I was 12
Please god don’t let the greedy marketers get their hands on this, it looks amazing as is
Anti-creativity marketers would turn it into JUST a shooter. A gutted eSport with none of the unique design.
It's headed by bohemia they a good company trust them
It's by bohemian interactive you can relax.
@@jryde421 only thing they screwing up rn is the Xbox DayZ servers but at the same time not enough ppl to complain about them for bohemia to change anything
They won't, trust me.
Yes! These RTS FPS have been the most memorable fun times in gaming. It's crazy that we haven't had one in so long.
Game mechanics issues and budget.
If you have an FPS RTS game packed into one, it's literally the equivalent of making two games at the same time which is very expensive to make.
@@ryneagheilim9782 I wouldn't say expensive but hard to do matchmaking but it's doable
I played a lot of Battlezone 2. Not the best game I played but certain very memorable
There was one back in 2021 called Eximius: Seize the Frontline
BF2 did it with commander mode.
@@ryneagheilim9782
I've said for years that I can't believe no one has capitalized on this genre. Renegade multiplayer was so fun for its time. I can't wait to see where thisgame goes
The big companies typically don't like to jump into smaller genres, until they see someone else reach huge success with it. Kinda like battle royale's pre Pubg and Fortnite.
@@piranhaplantX or Factorio. After it, so many games from same genre, but some 3d. And Factorio is also Czech game
From memory I would say some tried it just never catched on. Back in the day I played Rise and Fall civilization at war, which was a fun RTS/TPS with heroes set during the antiquity, the game was fun but never became cult and had mixed review.
@@piranhaplantX Pioneering the future seems more productive than copying the past tbh
Consoles can't play them (well) and MOBA started to dominate that niche on PC. It's a shame.
This actually looks like a blast
in game
@@unityman3133 what a weird guy, get a life kid
Stop lying
This concept is f****** awesome
@@im_cursed_huh9926 stop lying
There's some feeling about these older style of games that's hard to put your finger on, like they're more grounded and real. Lots of modern games feel sort of hazy and unfocused. Glad it's still possible to recreate that feeling with modern projects
How would you describe the feeling of the older games to the modern ones?
I cannot put in to words but I exactly know what you talking about
@@ARStudios2000basically, games before were done by artists. Nowadays, they are done by suits and focus groups and with predatory monitizations at the forefront.
@@TheBalls2thewalls couldn’t have said it better myself.
Of course, some of the blame falls on consumers as well.
Look at modern cinema, a movie like Blade Runner 2049 didn’t fare nearly as well as it should have because modern audiences crave Michael Bay explosions and sexed up women.
But of course, that could also be an overgeneralization on moviegoers.
Blade Runner is a bit of a strange film, even when already acknowledging its slower pace.
However, the point remains that there is not as much of an appreciation today for a well thought out plot or gameplay that isn’t in your face with filler QTE’s and other gimmicks.
100% right. older games had CHARISMA. newer games feel "dead". BF2042 is a perfect example. there's 0 emotion in that game. it's just ... empty an dead. I had more fun playing a DEMO of TUROK back in the 90's than the full 2042 game. as this man said, game devs used to have artistic freedom. these days it's all about generating sh*tty content and cashing big bucks for it. everything else is unimportant to them.
Thanks for showing us this game. Its from a small Czech studio. So this is definitely gonna help them!
It's from the people that made Day-Z and Arma I thought?
@@Taznar Bohemia Interactive are just the ones publishing/funding it
Probably will flop but cool
@@stresssquared whats with the negativity, i think its going to be a hit!
@@codexstudios Ah, that makes sense.
I dunno if anyone remembers, but years ago there was a game being developed called "Tiberium" which was supposed to be exactly this, RTS FPS game set in the C&Q universe if memory serves, but later got cancelled much to my dismay as a kid. This game brings about that memory so vividly from what I'm seeing so far, and honestly makes me hope that such a genre makes a revival in this new age of gaming.
I still have the Game Informer Magazine, with that title as the cover. I remember it just never getting more attention, then like 3 years after it was canceled, me finding that out and being dissapointed.
You mean TotemArts' Firestorm?
It's not cancelled but because of some drama with one of it's former members it's been slower.
There was a remake of renegade called Renegade X, but i dont remember if its still up and running these days. It was rly good when i played it back in 2013 or so
I was probably playing Savage: Battle for Newerth, a RTS FPS in a Turok style setting.
There's also "Nuclear Dawn," but it didn't get cancelled and was very fun to play (maybe still is, I didn't play it for years)
Theres this game series called executive assault which is exactly this genre and I think is criminally underrated. It is a bit rough around the edges but has truly given me and my friends so many good memories.
You know, from a RTS perspective the unit that is directly controlled by a human is a pretty scary thing.
Well, my experience with Natural Selection has taught me that directly controlled human is scary for both the commander and the enemy. If the player is good, they think on their feet and have god tier "micro" skills while still accomplishing the task assigned. Alternatively, they can just sort of go fuck off and do what they want, often to the detriment of the team.
@@Kefroth1 this assumes the commander is any good
@@harrysarso Sure, but you have to assume this; if everyone goes in doubting the commander, then they just do what they want, whether or not the commander is good. This typically leads to a situation where the team will most likely lose since they aren't working together on objectives. There are exceptions to every situation of course, but commanders typically have a lot more information about the overall state of the game and therefor are better equipped to tell the grunts what they should be working on. It is for precisely this reason that in the real military, if you are given a lawful order you are expected to carry it out and disregarding the order can lead to a reduction in rank at best and even field execution at worst.
"G'dday lads. You're the cheap expendable scouts we're sending haphazardly throughout the entire map with no regard for your safety in order to find some sheep"
"Say wha?"
@@harrysarso good player can also carry the team if commander isn't so good.
Shooters and RTS, two genres that I love and that mix incredibly well. Hope to get my hands on it soon, and best wishes for the dev/devs
Check С&C Renegade multiplayer. Exactly that mix
You definitely should check Renegade X my friend.
Don't forget -> Natural Selection 2 -> it is a good Game too
There is also "Battlezone" from 1998
@@kroee It certainly deserves a mention
Tried it the other day. It's obviously super unfinished but VERY promising. A great addition to the game would be the ability to switch between RTS and FPS mode whenever you want during single-player so you can experience both modes in one game.
Played it just now, It's honestly so fun to handle vehicles and bugs, terrain is a non-issue for bugs and watching a wave of them just straight up crawl all over huge tanks and buildings gave me such star trooper vibes than any other game. If they keep cooking this game in about a year i'd say it'd be as fun as playing star craft no lie.
I love that the starship troopers type theme is popping up more. I'd love to find something like this for VR.
Guardians Frontline
@@nivan3967 Thank you!
Yeah Starship Troopers is getting as popular these days as totalitarianism. I wonder if theres a connection. Would you like to know more?
Look up natural selection 2
@@qwopiretyuYes.
It reminds me of a game called Battlezone, in late 90s, it was ahead of its time :) - would like to see more of this, especially the RTS part, looks great overall.
I can't believe I found a Battlezone comment so damn far.
Battlezone was fun.
battlezoneII still one of my favorites.
It's on steam as far as I remember, for free
Eeey I played that too
This looks like such a cool idea, now imagine one team controlling the bugs and the other controlling the humans, with like 128 players like its squad.
Natural Selection would like a word
@@PeachDragon_ natural selection TWO was such a tragedy
That’s how the game is going to be. Not that many people but the bugs will be a playable faction along with 2 human factions that are all fighting at once.
thats just squad with different skins... so no.
@@jayburn100 is squad an RTS with bugs and in the future on an alien planet? No it isn't it obviously wouldnt be like squad, it would be like an FPS RTS game with a lot of players.
Man C&C Renegade and Natural Selection were legendary. They were so underrated as a LAN party game because you really needed a lot of like minded players to play them well but when you have those moments, boy they were unbeatable in sheer fun and playability.
I miss renegade sooo much. The maps were so cool too.
I miss NS soo much!!!
NS had your heart beating non stop for the entire match.
@@sirshinra IIRC, there's a fan made clone. Renegade X.
@@orangedream267 yes and Earthbreakers coming out soon
There's a super obscure game called "Battlezone" where they tried to make an FPS and RTS combo! I hope the whole thing takes off! It's a forgotten but very fun genre!
I have been waiting like 20 years for something like this. The first RTS i played as a young kid was mech commander and I've been looking for something to scratch that itch. Thank you Jack!
There's a MechCommander mod for MechWarrior 5 !
@@matteparent2468 What?!? Tell me more please 🙏
@@Bmuelr check out battlezone 2 my friend. It's an older game that's been remastered. But it's an fps/rts. In fact this game looks heavily inspired by battlezone
Mech Commander is nothing like this?
Theres been numerous mods/games of this genre over the last 20+ years though.
18 years ago when i was choosing between engineering and computer game design, I had an idea for a RTS/FPS mashup which is remarkably similar to this. Amazing to see after all these years this game has popped up. Can't wait to play it!
Some things are better staying dead.
I was into games like this myself, I sunk so many hours into the Battlezone games
I also had a similar idea inspired by playing Command & Conquer Generals Zero Hour. So cool ti see this idea out here like this. Same with ARMA III and Men of War 2 and the mods that came along with it.
@Paul J Yep and I ended up in accountancy! I went from creativity, to part creativity to complete robot :)
@@twilightcitystudios did you ever play Command and Conquer Renegade ?
I have loved this genre since Battle Zone in the 90s.
I have always wanted one that took place in space on carriers and battleships. Some players act as the bridge crew, with the captain controlling the overall battle strategy, and other players acting as infantry doing boarding actions or landing on planet surfaces and others piloting fighters and bombers. I imagined that all the units would be AI controlled, but players could queue up basically to play a fighter or a soldier and would then drop in to control one in an active game as they were available. So sometimes your units would be player controlled, and if they died, they'd take control of another unit nearby.
I always thought it would be cool. Like Star Wars clone wars vibes with these ships showing up to planets and just fighting over the surface as well as duking it out in space. Having to deal with resupplying and reinforcing units on the ground while also doing space battles at the same time.
The eerie vibes that the almost empty desert gives compliments the large rush of enemies so well it’s like a movie scene and I’m all for it hopefully this game makes a splash
Seeing this game reminds me of the best FPS RTS games I remember called Battlezone and Battlezon2. Those were amazing for this unique genre that didn't have a good sizeable fanbase to keep it alive
I couldn’t agree more. 👍
Man I'm so glad to see people remembering Battlezone in 2023
You can play Warshift against enemy AI. No fan base needed.
Ita about damn time genre gets some much needed attention and a revival! This looks like it'd be a blast to play! We need more Starship Troopersesqe type games too 😂
The game looks really fun with replayability. This is the combination I was hoping for with a new Halo Wars. Being able to control ground and air units while being able to switch to commander or having a buddy play the role
Same was dreaming for halo wars 2 to be this
if halo wars 3 becomes this, i would be in love forever... they have anounced they want to make halo wars 3 but have nothing more done about the whole ordeal so maybe they could take inspiration and make this type of game, who knows
Natural Selection was such a hidden gem and Im very happy they have produced a similar title in the modern age, thanks for shining a light on this Jack!
It surprised me how deep I had to go in the comments to see a single mention of Natural Selection which was the last king of this genre, that was such a sick game.
Where are all the Natural Selection and Natural Selection 2 fans at?
@@maximumtaco2298 They're all busy being either dads or cave dwellers playing and gatekeeping NS2. Or both.
NS was so good, felt like a first person StarCraft
People still play ns2 consistently I play about everyday
The only issue I think there is with this genre is a lot of people will want to be a commander and not many will want to be boots on the ground. Otherwise, I think it is an amazing-looking game! I wish there were more games like this as I do think it is a golden opportunity for a big dev to make huge.
Hum the actual problem of this kind of game is usually to find a commander, most of the times nobody wants the responsability.
@@virgill2452 agree, NS2 also had a lack of commanders.
Oh I'm reverse. I love the fps stuff.
BF2142 had the same problem. Or worse, you join a game with a crap commander. It’s going to be even worse here where the commander really needs some rts creds to do a good job
No, this is perfect. You, an RTS player, get the game, then convince your call of duty friends to play with you
Reminds me of "Savage: The Battle for Newerth" which was basically a mix of RTS and First Person "Shooter" (it was mostly melee).
But that concept with a SciFi Shooter theme ala Starship Troopers sounds like an absolute blast and looked great!
Savage was a great game and took the fight&command aspect of Battlezone to its perfection. Still remember the time i spent on Savage with friends, we had a couple of guys who were great commanders and the whole teching up to get better weapons before the beast faction players demolished us in melee was a rush
Savage was amazing! Immediately came to mind
savage, empires mod for source were all fun but idk if still active
Savage style lives on!
Savage was my first thought as well.
FPS+RTS is such an amazing mix. Natural Selection is one of the best games I have ever played. I miss it every day. Really glad to learn about this game, it's definitely looking unique. I hope the development advances well and it gets popular!
Natural selection 2 is still playable iirc, but no more active development.
@@Zilican how can u play it? Is there a player base?
Jacks commentary is the perfect balance of dryness, cluelessness, all knowingness, passion, and curiosity.. Its brilliant keep it up my guy
I'm all for the RTS revival
RTS evolved
Something like Battlezone would be great!
I just started playing Stranded Alien Dawn
@@Jim-Stick I LOVED battlezone when I was a kid, such a great game.
Definitely! With this rts fps game and other upcoming projects like Homeworld 3, the genre is being pushed again
I wish Natural Selection 2 was still populated. It was so unique and fun to play with a group of friends.
I think it is still populated. At least there are some games at weekends
That was such an underrated game
i bought it yesterday and theres still full servers
This game Was so unique, great memories
This. Natural Selection 2 was absolutely one of the coolest and most unique games I’ve ever played. Unfortunately it’s audience is a bit niche.
This genre i can’t believe it actually died out a little. It was so good.
minecraft made a new game with this genre a minth ago, i am so happy it is comming back
Never played a game like this. Looks fun!
because it's hard to implement but if it does I hope it goes I love this type of game play.
Natural selection 2 was the best game like this in my opinion but it had kind of a rough start
@@Bajtjr Yeah, NS2 is easily the best example of this game idea... but it's really hard to get right, since skill/experience makes an INSANE difference in how strong a team is... you could have a team of cracked troops, but a horrible commander can throw that away. And vise versa as well...
I’ve been watching this game closely and I’m glad to see it getting more publicity.
This would be a very cool team-building game to simulate the importance of logistics. You have the frontliners playing as their own characters and protecting the bases and extraction of resources. Then you have the guys on RTS-mode providing everything the frontliners need.
The RTS players need the frontliners and vice versa to properly fight.
Fucking FPS FOXHOLE???
Essentially Battlefield 2142 commander mode
Foxhole, but with fps and warthunder elements
I just saw this on the Steam page today, looks super interesting and I might buy it after this video!
Super excited for this game, even for early access it’s showing a lot of potential, would love to see more as the updates roll out
Love the game from what i see. The industry needed a good Coop like this for a long time. I really wish this will become a populair thing!
I have been HUNGRY for this kind of game! I loved (2005) Star Wars Battlefront 2's galactic conquest as an idea, and always wanted it to be expanded on!
Super impressive from a technical standpoint hope this does well
Been wanting this genre to come back! Savage was really fun at LANs back in the day.
Savage 2 was the bomb
What nursing home do you live in?
@@mouthpiece200 in your momma's bedroom
@@mouthpiece200 haha only 36 man
One of my all time favorites of this genre was the Counter Strike mod "Empires" It was amazing. Later on the game Planetside used a similar formula, but Empires was so cool because it felt realisitc in its design, not necessarily futuristic like the Planetside series.
The most impressive thing about this title is that for the first time first persone and commander are actually made both really well instead of just picking one of the two to focus on and going along
Dude, Jack. This game looks phenomenal.
Very impressed with the developer, the ideas he/they have for a game like this. I'm just a bit older than you and I was a huge fan and still am of command and conquer national selection and if you ever played Dystopia on steam that's another one that really gained my attention around the same time of natural selection. Thank You so much for finding such great titles of up and coming games.
I had so much fun playing Natural Selection when I was younger.
Dystopia was so good.
I put hundreds of hours into both.
Dystopia was great, a 'Tron' like feel to it. FPS while two were in a 'matrix' jacked in per say hacking to help. Fun times 👌
@@Vhexen I didn't play Dystopia as much, but man the gameplay in that is super unique. Haven't played a game like it since.
There's an Indie game being developed which has a very similar feel! I had to double check it wasn't the same game haha
It's called Outpost: Infinity siege developed by a group called Team Ranger. Very cool RTS cross FPS Mech shooter vs aliens! It's looking like it's going to be reaaal cool!!
The whole genre just brings back Battlezone vibes!
Ive said this for years, why cant a developer make a RTS and have real people on the ground. Such a cool idea and literally only a few games have ever attempted it. Thanks for showing this Jack
They've been making them for years but they always stay quite niche and die out eventually like NS1 and NS2
Reminds me of Urban Assault. Futuristic RTS - FPS hybrid that I played every weekend. Glad to see this video pop up in my home page
Definitely going to pick this up sometime. I love gun vs bug games, especially when you combine RTS and FPS elements.
This looks AWESOME! - I used to play a bit of Command & Conquer: Tiberium Wars and Halo Wars back in the day... but allowing players to join and play in first person takes it to another level. I didn't even know about C&C Renegade or Natural Selection. I'd definitely play this game. I'm sure with a bit of polish like a more interesting and varied terrain and better looking building destruction, this game would really do well.
I'd always hoped Halo would make a game like that. Feels like a perfect match for them.
renegade, natural selection, Savage and Savage II, and technically battlefield 2 would fit
This game looks to be heavily, and I mean heavily inspired by Battlezone 2.
@Arais_Demlant bro I'm glad you mentioned battlezone, can't believe he left that one out. Glad I'm not the only one that noticed the battlezone similarities
Natural Selection 1 is up to this very day the best multiplayer game for me. I am really waiting for new good games in this genre for ages
OK this definitely brings me back to the Battlezone 2 days, CnC Renegade etc. Still some underground scenes modding Battlezone 2 alongside the Renegade X project today. I hope this gains traction. It would be immense to see some more physics based destruction in something like this. This genre is underrated for the possibilities.
This takes 'fun with friends' to a whole new level lmao great video Jack
Yes, many years ago I played some strategy game made by Microsoft where you could also control units. I already found Steam and bought Silica thanks to you..
This game looks so cool, love the FPS/RTS mixture
It’s looks really cool. There is another game like this that is in development it’s called: outpost infinity siege.
This game reminds me so heavily of Battlezone 2
I'd love to see more Natural Selection type games. Being able to play as an alien or something other than just typical humans is a lot of fun especially when you throw in multiplayer.
You can play as aliens, humans vs aliens, vide versa and Human v human v alien.
I've been obsessed with this genre since playing a demo of Urban Assault as a kid. There have been some decent attempts to make a game like this (parts of it look a LOT like Renegade X) but this is one of the most polished and I almost can't believe it's just one guy. I'm a little iffy on the setting but I might pick this up just for how unique it is.
Same. Urban Assault was so good
@@Loll0saurus Amazing game. I spent the better part of a week getting it running (somehow) on my laptop.
For the love of god please let this not be a flop, there used to be a game like this that I played back in the day and it was epic.
Battleswarm: field of honor
Savage: Battle for Newerth
If you want a SP game that's FPS RTS, Warshift.
Ever since I bought halo wars thinking it was an fps I always wondered why games like this did not exist. Amazing
You can check the Wargasm game, i suppouse that was the first game that connects RTS and FPS. It was produced in 1998!
I've always wanted this exact type of game. An rts where you could zoom in and control an individual unit
Reminds of a game called Battlezone 2 (came out in 1999 I think I remember correctly and I just about got it running on my Pentium 233MMX...) and did a lot of what this seems to be doing- well worth checking out!
This game looks promising for sure- nice catch Jack 👍
All of the Battlezone references take me way back!
I used to play Savage for a bit back in the late 00s and I remember thinking the FPS RTS concept was pretty cool. Nice to see something new coming out.
The genre was so forgotten that it's amazing to see a game like this gaining prominence again.
I'm so glad this style of game is coming back. Natural selection was legendary, and it's a shame its popularity waned, but hopefully, this will be the revival that the series needs
A game like this can be an interesting comepetitive game if theres more meat to it.
Think of it like Starcraft where you have to get resources to build up your base and army. The commander can build up the base while the other players are the army guys. The army guys go out to find resources to build up the base from scratch like blueprints for weapons, tanks, new buildings, etc.
While at the same time finding resources along the way and killing enemies. The opposing team can do the same thing, but they're the crabs and building up a hive cluster base. The game can end with either team destroy each other's base and then switch sides after the match ends.
Throw in a turn-based campaign map and this would be exactly the combo that I dreamed about as a kid
Not for me thanks.
Wow I remember RTS games like Empire Earth, Warcraft II & Age of Empires really pulling me into gaming back in the day. This looks like a ton of satisfying gameplay.. I kinda hope they release this on consoles
Age of empires got a console port recently, it's super good!
@@Steven-rn1oo Isn't it only on Xbox & PC? I own a PS5 so I won't be able to play
Empire Earth was amazing. EE2 fully modded out was basically the ultimate historical RTS simulator
When i hear "Bohemia Inc", i'm saying goodbye to optimization and quality :(
can't wait to get my crisp 20 FPS once a battle starts
YESSSSSS, we need this, I'm glad people like this dev exist, because a lot of the stuff that was done before is underrated and with new technology can be amazing
I remember my first time playing Savage and it was amazing! Would love to see this genre come back in full. Savage and it's sequal and Natural Selection and it's sequal are all I can really think of that had this sort of gameplay. I know there's been others (dirty bomb I think?) that took bits of the hybrid genre but not taking it to full RTS.
Savage and Savage 2. Those were the days... then i transitioned to HoN by the same company
Savage! I was dating a girl whose brother managed one of those nerdy card shops in the mall (and it had computers for rent). They bought a ton of copies of Savage at release... and literally no one ever played them. I bought one of them shortly thereafter for $5. It was a neat game.
@@88Xardas heroes of newerth was ok for what it was. But it wasn't in the same genre so didn't include it.
FINALLY! I have been waiting for more games like this
C&C Renegade was amazing back in the day, so many dear memories playing it..
Need more videos of this with more of your crew, it looks like tons of fun with more people.
Command and conquer renegade pc multiplayer demo was my first big multiplayer online game i got into. So many memories just playing that 1 desert map. There was a hack some people were using where the engineer guy with the repair beam would 1 shot you/vehicles/buildings if he touched you with the beam
Would love to see more of this
lol you guys made this look so much fun. Can’t wait to hear all the stories of all the people yelling at each other.
I remember the game "uprising", was pretty cool and this reminds me of it
I did ctrl-f to see if anyone else remembered that game.
I’ve always liked games like this. I don’t know why there aren’t more of them.
C&C Renegade was so much fun. 64vs64 was insane.
Similar concept to Battlezone (2 for me specifically) back in the day. That one, you built the base and such from a first person perspective which has a nice charm (until you built an uplink)
That was an outstanding game, but, games that straddle two genres together can struggle (commercially) because people who are hardcore into one, often don't like the other. I hope this fares well!
I did think that Renegade's multiplayer held a lot of promise, and was hoping that it would become more popular. It's good to see it being revisited.
Renegade X is still a thing
@@kimberly4275 It's nowhere near as popular as to have a decent playerbase
@@domacleod yeah it's super niche but still playable
This game should have huge potential to be great, especially if they allow mod support on the Steam Workshop. EDIT: The 40K Mods could be epic with a game built from the ground up with this type of gameplay in mind!!
Or Starship Troopers! 😉
One of my favorite games as a kid was Sanctum 2. It's a FPS Tower Defense game by the same studio that made Goat Simulator (but like, it's not a meme game like Goat Sim is XD). Great game, shame nobody plays it anymore. This video reminded me of it
I've been waiting for this kind of games for a really really long time, it seems extremely fascinating to me as a genre, I hope many more like this will be created
Check out Executive Assault 2
It looks really good, would love to see you play the RTS mode
FINALLY
I used to play a game that was FPS and RTS tower defense but I havnt been able to find it in forever. This fills the gap, and it looks SO good.
Finally a game like mount and blade but it's dune or starship troopers war.
Indie games are where it's at. This looks wonderful!
Im just so happy people are coming back to Natural Selection 2 because of it
The game is still very much alive and its so fun hearing ppl talk about it and start playing it again
Please come play with us
I never thought I would see a revival of this genre. I mean it's perfect for when you want to kill and not just watch them die.
I dreamed for years for somebody to make star craft like game, where You can control individual units like in shooters.
I believe one of battlefield games had this concept, where one player was a general, and he was giving orders to squads etc.
But imagine how cool it would be, to relieve StarCraft missions as a hydralisk or a mamoth 😅
yeah, imagine the imp goon, or impossible ums maps in general from brood war in first person
Might I recommend Executive Assault 2 as well?
Its a pretty damn impressive RTS/FPS combo as well - although it focuses mainly on spaceship combat. It does have ground combat as well though within the bases and stations themselves.
Looks like it could be good, cool to see the harvesters path just as well as they did back in the C&C days. (what a way to go)
Reminds me of that game where you could just build sandbag walls right up to the enemy base and block their harvester thingies in. They just stopped there and looked at the sandbags while you teched up and built a massive army and destroyed them hehehe. Might have been Command & Conquer, something like that anyway.
Looks really cool though.
Yup. That was the original C&C from 1995.
I"m excited, I loved Natural Selection 2 and have been waiting for something similar.
Im so glad you found this! even with its flaws its super fun to play! its also very nostalgic for those who played this genre back in the day
Command and conquer feels like a legacy to me. My childhood memories are connected to that game series🥹
Same and total annihilation
I wish they'd remake C&C for PS5
1995 on Ms/Dos😉
I still play RA2
Never even knew this genre existed. Looks like a blast
Look up NS2
OMG this looks AMAZING! Please do more content with this game!
I always thought about this. Imagine a planetary war with real players controlling different roles like space command and on the ground FPS.
Planetside?
@@TimoRutanen planetside has no in game leadership