Is More always Better?!? RE Super Meteor 650 vs Meteor 350

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  • @corradospagnuolo614
    @corradospagnuolo614 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    With my Meteor 350 I have traveled 9,000 km without problems: easy and agile to drive, comfortable (I mounted the shockers of the old Bullet) even on trips of 400/500 km, negligible consumption. to be (almost) perfect it lacks only one thing, namely 10 more horsepower. I really hope that R.E. proposes a "New Meteor" with the 452 engine...

    • @pipelee727
      @pipelee727 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      there is a 500cc big bore kit for 350cc engine onsale.

    • @corradospagnuolo614
      @corradospagnuolo614 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pipelee727 I didn't know that, thanks for the information! Who sells it?

    • @Fumanchuisnotdead
      @Fumanchuisnotdead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Más potencia más consumo...más impuestos ...llegarás al mismo sitio con 20hp que con 40hp. Pero llegarás con menos o más dinero en tu bolsillo. Tú eliges economía o gas, velocidad y más rápido y más multas y más peligro...yo quiero una RE 350 sin limite de velocidad y bajo consumo si no voy a full gas

    • @eliut6855
      @eliut6855 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nice! I own a new meteor350 (4 days with it). on a 500 km ride would it overheat? what about oil consumption? Thanks!

    • @corradospagnuolo614
      @corradospagnuolo614 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@eliut6855 Hi! As for possible overheating, on one occasion I drove 250 km at a cruising speed of 70 mph (almost full throttle...) without any problem, the engine cools very well. As for oil consumption, after the first service (500 km or so) and up to the second (5000 km) I topped up about seven ounces of oil, so I would say more than acceptable. Cheer

  • @sandipbiswas766
    @sandipbiswas766 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My Thunderbird 350 (Proto Meteor 350- kinda) handles Indian roads like a charm!
    Whole of Indian roads are like performing off-roading 😅

  • @foxfirevalleyvineyrd
    @foxfirevalleyvineyrd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a Meteor 350 and a Harley Superlow 883, and I find myself preferring the Meteor for the exact reasons you indicated. Great video. Thanks

  • @drAnmolRaut
    @drAnmolRaut 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a proud owner of a Meteor 350, I strongly agree with you. I recommend the new touring handlebar and Nitrox suspension from the old Classic 350. Game changer.

  •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Fully agreed.
    Retired in Thailand, I own a 350 Meteor Fireball since almost 2 years. As I very often ride with my wife as pillion and Thailand is full of steep hills, I've many times complained about the lack of power of the 350. And therefore planned to upgrade to the Supermeteor 650.
    However, spending some time to gather the extra budget, I juste appreciate my Fireball a little more everyday. Now that I can afford the change, I'm just not that motivated anymore 🤣
    Sure, the 650 has an incredible engine, but I'd really miss my thumping single. And besides the handling that is just incredible on the 350, it is also important to mention the huge difference in comfort. Especially for the pillion. The 350 is a Rolls for pillion confort compared to the 650 in stock shocks.
    Whatever happens in the future, one thing is sure, I'm holding on to my Meteor 🥰

    • @LionDigitalMarketing
      @LionDigitalMarketing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I too live in Thailand, I don't have a wife to throw on the back, but carry my own extra weight hehe, I'm planning to change my meteor 350 to a 650 tomorrow, purely to get a bit more power and stability on the road as I also have a bad back (mostly due to the extra weight carrying) anyhow, since there still is 1 year left on your warranty, you might not want to do this but it is possible to get a big bore kit from Hitchcocks in England, that is around 30K thb and will add some extra power.. I also thought of that, but in the end decided if I could I would get the 650, as that I can see being my daily driver for many years to come.

    •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LionDigitalMarketing Thanks mate, the Hitchcocks kit (or other upgrade) is definitely an option I'm going to look into. The 350 engine is so understressed, I believe it is easy to gain an extra 10HP out of it, if not more.
      Thanks for the advice in any case and stay safe!

    • @LionDigitalMarketing
      @LionDigitalMarketing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi again, yes a DNA filter, decat and big bore kit and you are there, already with DNA filter you get 2HP if using air filter cover with the giant hole in it as well. but still never get above the 120km limit, unless you disconnect the ABS plug as the limiter runs on checking the speed from the ABS rings. AS for the Super Meteor you can get some slip-on exhausts that makes it sounds good, but its not a long stroke single... more like a twin half long on crack, as the idle is somewhat higher, but still compared to other in the same category is revs are low.

    •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LionDigitalMarketing and 2HP is already huge on a Meteor 🤣🤣🤣

  • @korotaco2267
    @korotaco2267 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks bro 👍🏽

  • @fujimota666
    @fujimota666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Some years ago, while searching for information on what it would because my first motorcycle ( a keeway superlight 125cc cruiser bike) i found a reviewer that stated, the best type of bike for a low cc platform is the cruiser, a style of bike made for the confort and enjoyability of the ride and not the speed of travel. And for me the re meteor is another exemple of that, with the exeption of highway riding.
    Another great video , keep it up ;) hope some day you get your hands on a RE guerrilla 450

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really Hope so too, sadly did not have the Chance to Review it until yet

    • @johncranwell3783
      @johncranwell3783 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s really interesting. You bring this up because I’ve heard a lot of really good feedback from the keyway little V twin…..

    • @fujimota666
      @fujimota666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johncranwell3783 I had my superlight for 6 years ( bought it used) never had major issues with it, the Vcruise beeing a more premium model i'm not surprise it's doing well.
      I wouldnt mind having one of those in my garage

  • @MrAigaro
    @MrAigaro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I Have ridden small Meteor and was surprised, how comfy It is and how nice it rides.
    Of corse, can't Winn a race on Meteor but if you change a tyres and rear suspension and It's ready to go anywhere👍🏻

  • @Stu_wolf
    @Stu_wolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video, I've tested both and hoping to get a meteor 350 in the new year to go alongside my old xj600 diversion, you can get a decent used meteor 350 for around £2500 in the UK

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats a great combination☺️

  • @kamiljay2697
    @kamiljay2697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im in usa owning classic 350 for over year now and i only consider change when scrambler 650 come stateside

  • @petergarside2341
    @petergarside2341 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Worth noting that you have the touring seat on the Super Meteor. It sits you an lot higher on the bike and the handlebars feel low and strange. I have the standard lower seat on mine, the handlebars feel in a much better place. More in front than reaching down.

  • @eliut6855
    @eliut6855 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was going to buy a Shotgun 650, But I saw the meteor 350 aurora green, and bought it. It was a visceral emotional decision perhaps irrational, but I’ve had the bike 4 days and I’m in love with it. I’m 5’6” (i also own a himalayan) and it’s so easy to handle, so smooth it’s a joy. I just wonder if being air cooled it won’t overheat on a long ride (500 miles)?? Thanks a lot for the video!

  • @danielben-avraham1539
    @danielben-avraham1539 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My wife and I rode the Super Meteor 650 and we were both a bit disappointed. We both agreed that our Himalayan was a more comfortable ride, and I found the upright sitting position gives me more control over the bike. I have the engine performance upgrades so my Himmy is around 30hp and that made a difference in my comparison as well. I have never tried the 350 and I am certain that it is even more maneuverable at higher speeds than the Himalayan due to the Himmy's 21" gyroscope front wheel. I thought about getting a second bike, but after a lot of consideration, for me the Himmy with its luggage does it all.

  • @joshuathomas8529
    @joshuathomas8529 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tried the Meteor 350 found out about the 650 and weighted. I have now had my Super Meteor for just under a year and I could not be happier. Sure, if you're on flat ground with the wind at your back the 350 is fine but in Idaho this condition is rare. The Super Meteor handles mountains like a champ. I would also like to add that at 80MPH the Super Meteor has no I repeat no vibration at all. The only downside to the Super Meteor is that after about an hour and a half my but gets numb. This is the first motorcycle I have ever ridden this long on so I can't compare it to anything else as far as long-distance riding. I have had no issues climbing or descending 12% grades with it my last bike a Honda 250 it would look at hills and say "no please don't make me go up that". The question when looking at these two bikes you need to ask yourself is where I am going to be riding and how fast do I need to go in order to be safe. If head winds, mountains, and 70MPH+ speeds are not a concern then the 350 would work wonderfully for you, if they are skip it and go straight to the 650. The 650 also accelerates much better than the 350. I started on a Honda 90, needed more power went to a Honda 250, needed more power now have the Royal Enfield 650 and I feel I have found my dream bike one to hold on to until I can't get parts anymore.

  • @betruly7894
    @betruly7894 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The wood spoon is what kept me watching to the end 😉. Small engine is more fun. Low weight bike is more fun to ride in back road, highway ?? please who ride even big bikes on highway, if yes then you are doing it al wrong. I own a heavy Harley but will never again buy any heavy bike ,even if I like the look.
    The Super Meteo 650 is perfect for me. You maybe forgot to mention how awful are those suspension, but it is a quick fix, just need to swap them for a better one.
    Great review bro, I like the simple style 🙂

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes exactly and even the small bikes are perfectly highway capable especially as soon as you have a country with not that many and not that fast highways anyway. And I was fine with the bike and not scared on the German autobahn so I would say both bikes are fine there ofcourse the super meteor handles it better but the small meteor is 100 percent capable of doing it

  • @ArielCisneros-y7h
    @ArielCisneros-y7h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I own a 350 since 2 years ago,cwas my first motorcycle, I enjoyed it a lot, and now I'm thinking about moving up to a 650, however nobody told here abut the hard rear suspension of the SM650, there is a lot of claims of riders that are doing some kind of modifications, changing shoks, modifying the angle, just to get a softer suspension. So, maybe the Interceptor will bevmy next choice, sacrifying the Harley or cruiser style, I dont know......

    • @JayendraSingh1567
      @JayendraSingh1567 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They come with preload, and there are no issues with suspension when preload is set accordingly.

  • @pratiktandel5706
    @pratiktandel5706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Please try to give your ride thoughts about hunter too.
    Love from india

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would love to i will do so as soon as i get the Chance ☺️

  • @au303
    @au303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Super Meteor revs and vibrates quite a lot past 100 km/hr. If you live where the highway speeds are 110 officially and 130 unofficially It is on the line of usability. I still love mine but it sometimes makes me wonder how hard I am thrashing it to ride on Canadian highways.

  • @johncranwell3783
    @johncranwell3783 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a very interesting little review….. in most peoples eyes an unusual comparison….. nothing really in common other than the brand and meteor…..
    That said it reminded me of my original remit for returning to motorcycling after 20 years of family commitments and stuff….
    What I fancied was a kind of classic thumper single cylinder and easy to maintain and work on…. Reminiscing about a BSA B50 500cc I rode a few times in the 70s…. Not bristling with power, but not lazy and with plenty of torque….. so when I started looking two years ago I was quite surprised that the Royal Enfield 350s and 411 didn’t touch the BSA’s 37bhp! Didn’t want anything like the 650 twins which are similar in bhp to what I’d ridden over the years BSA thunderbolt (47bhp) and BMW R80/7 (55bhp)…still have the BMW…..
    What I’m getting to is I really didn’t wanna go back to the days of when I used to ride a BSA C15 (15bhp)….. don’t get me wrong it was a lovely little bike but like the small Enfields, you kind of have to sit back and just wait as it plods through the countryside…. This is okay in country lanes, but if you wanna get up country, what a pain for me at least…. there is hardly a 350 owner not wanting to put all the extra engine upgrades on their bikes, just to give it that missing punch…..
    An equally odd choice of bikes to test side-by-side, but I tested the shotgun 650 and the Himalayan 450 …. Both put an enormous smile on my face….. Himalayan soaked up every bump and had a pleasant plod, but with plenty of extra to get up country or overtake…. The shotgun really thrilled me such a beautiful handling motorcycle that never flinched or wavered over any bumps even though it was a slightly harder ride….. I wrote that over some very rough rain and never got the pegs down within the legal limit restraints…..
    So where am I on the bike choice? Definitely not the super meteor because I really don’t like forward pegs… and not the 350 meteor just being a bit breathless…. so my mind is still flipping between the Himalayan and the shotgun for two very different reasons….. possibly the Himalayan would serve me overall much better but the shotgun is absolutely thrilling!

  • @marekpapro4897
    @marekpapro4897 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mój przyjacielu, obecnie jeżdżę vstrom 650, to bardzo dobry motocykl, ale coraz bardziej myślę o RE Metreor 350. Poruszam się głównie drogami bocznymi i tak nie potrzebuję dużej szybkości.
    pozdrawiam z Polski

  • @fuglbird
    @fuglbird 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for mentioning the prices without specifying currency or country. You are speaking English so we assume it is GBP, USD, AUD or NZD.
    Clearly it's not in EUR because the taxes are different in most European states and you would have mentioned the state. I live in Denmark where the price of the 350 is EUR 7,650. All models in stock are from 2021. The price of the 650 is EUR 13,550 (2023 model). It's difficult to compete with proper Japanese motorcycles with prices like that.

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fuglbird I am sorry the price was in euro. I took German prices and the ruff prices of France Spain etc.

  • @aaff3846
    @aaff3846 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do compare the Meteor 350 with Kawasaki eliminator 450🤩

  • @Ranzord95
    @Ranzord95 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the day I get my A2 license I plan on upgrading to a proper bike, and as far as I have researched, meteor 350 checks boxes like no other. Made for gentle and chill riding, comfortable, pretty, low cost, simple. The 650 tempts me because of the beefier aesthetics and being guaranteed I won't run short in power on the highway or with my gf as a pinion, but the price is so high along with increased costs that it's just unreasonable. That said, relatively high maintenance intervals put me a bit off, and despite being a real looker bike, I don't dig that classic bike aesthetic too much because it feels tailored for a feeling of faux nostalgia I'd rather stay away from

  • @matusknives
    @matusknives 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would not go for a Meteor (cruiser) design, but since I am actually looking to get my first bike (have been wanting a bike for years), then the weight of the 650 would be the main reason not to get one. I am most likely going to get the RE Scram, but if I were looking to get a classical bike, I would go with the 350 Bullet or Classic - and shall I want more in the future, I would most likely be looking at Kawasaki W800 or some of the Triumph 900 twins. Purely based on personal taste, I think RE 650 are super cool. But before getting the Scam, I will surely test ride the 350 and the Scram and then decide.

  • @hpenvy1106
    @hpenvy1106 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can a 20hp bike with 190kg be considered light? I'm not sure about that. RE's are just heavy because of their oldschool steel frames. That beeing said, I really sympathize with the small motor and the 20hp. It's aprochable, fun, cheap and unique. The super meteor may be kinda irrelevant for us Eurocunts, but in the US market there isn't (afaik) another cruiser below 10k, which makes it the perfect starter for the new riders or "the riders wive"

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait what there is no other Cruiser under 10 k 🤯 across the Pond

    • @sperelli87
      @sperelli87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is the power to weight ratio though.

    • @Bazza-m6p
      @Bazza-m6p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      20 hp for a 191kg bike is insane. Swm 6 days has twice the power while 20 kg lighter. And 450cc engine.

    • @christopherpekel6096
      @christopherpekel6096 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eurocunts lol

    • @christopherpekel6096
      @christopherpekel6096 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Vulcan S is under 10k USD
      As well as th cfmoto CLC

  • @Steve_Meister
    @Steve_Meister 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Miles,
    I did not ride the super meteor but I own the 350. I agree it gives alot of fun, feels great, shifts fantastic. The seating position I found very well as well. I use this bike for backroads but also for work. On the highway driving against the wind it does struggle with driving about 100kmh so as a test I installed a DNA filter today, I love the sound it makes with accelerating and I hope that my guts are right and that that filter gives it a very small extra push. Soon I`ll ask a motorcycle shop around here for a dyno test and see what the new numbers are.
    Next to this bike I have a F850gs, also a fantastic bike but in another way.
    If I have done a dyno test on the meteor I`ll let you know.
    Greetings, Steve (Rotterdam, Netherlands)

    • @Ben_Colney
      @Ben_Colney หลายเดือนก่อน

      I want to know the dyno test result, please update here.

  • @BelgianDoomer
    @BelgianDoomer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think you're being a bit unfair towards the 650: you wont scrape if you keep to the speed limit somewhat. In Belgium going 25km over the speed limit like you did in the corner when you scraped would normally get your licence revoked for a while. Also the 350 feels unsafe on the highway because of its low power. Also the SM 650 is way better at longer rides and has way more room for the pillion.

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The 650 is definitly also a really good bike. I just was really conviced by the amazing blast that the Meteor 350 is to Ride☺️. Both bikes are incredible machines☺️

    • @bodhi1420
      @bodhi1420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FreeMilesMC I think the 350 is better for the B roads and 650 for the highways. i have a hard time deciding for my first bike as i always need to go over a highway to leave the city anyother way then north. all the B roads are anywhere except north. i dont think ill be on the dutch highways allot as its always so crowded but id like to use the bike to travel to work someday.

    • @zensamui2409
      @zensamui2409 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You should try my 28 hp modified hunter .

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would actually love to feel free to Write me an email as it would make for a Great Video☺️

  • @robertdaley1194
    @robertdaley1194 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 650 is looking good .

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It really does ☺️

  • @Brettmotorcycles
    @Brettmotorcycles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a cruiser its not supposed to be great on the twisties if u want that your buying the wrong bike. Also in the states the 350 can’t keep up on the interstate. It doesn’t make sense on a cruiser when you have a hard time getting to 70mph

  • @ripmax333
    @ripmax333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Short Answer to the Video Title, No More is not always better. Personally the meteor looks much better that the super meteor and if I had to buy one, its all I would ever need.

  • @STRidesKenya
    @STRidesKenya 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cloak at the back is upside down:)

  • @amarg2199
    @amarg2199 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Meteor 350 will do 90 percent job at half price.

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amarg2199 basically yea 👍🏼

  • @felixVanDiemen
    @felixVanDiemen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I totally disagree but I gave you a like anyway 😆 I have just ridden from Tasmania to the top of Queensland and back (11,000 km) on my Super Meteor. It was brilliant all the way, the ultimate touring bike for me. I'm sure the Meteor is a fun bike too, but for me the Super Meteor is perfect 👌😍

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. It’s nice to co exist with different Perspektives and i appreciate you input mate. And the trip from Queensland to Tasmania sounds amazing. I went surfing all over the East coast with a Holden comodore ☺️👍🏼

    • @felixVanDiemen
      @felixVanDiemen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FreeMilesMC Exactly, respect and dialogue, that's what it's all about hey.
      I hope you enjoyed your east coast trip, did you go to Yamba and Angourie? Nice right hander on the point but can be a little crowded. The Pass at Bryon is a great wave, but a little intense people wise. Stunning part of the world though, I think it is the most beautiful landscape I have ever seen 😍
      And you were in a Holden, excellent 😎

    • @FreeMilesMC
      @FreeMilesMC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @felixVanDiemen i think Wave wise the Most intense was the entrance Right Next to Sidney. I was in angourie. And i love Port mcquiry or something like that. And i got barreld in Nosa because i surfed there on cristmas day and it was very empty

    • @felixVanDiemen
      @felixVanDiemen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FreeMilesMC I know the Entrance, it's one of the first places I ever surfed when I was about 14, big gnarly beach break but a long way out. Yer, Port Macquarie has some nice beaches around it. I like camping at a beach near there in a national park called Point Plomer, fantastic spot and very low key 😊

    • @felixVanDiemen
      @felixVanDiemen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FreeMilesMC And you got very lucky in Noosa 😆 nice one!

  • @barsoltu719
    @barsoltu719 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice spoon 😂

  • @alan_2056
    @alan_2056 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm enjoying my Interceptor and have purposefully avoided test riding Meteor and Super Meteor because I might like them too much. Thank you for the comparison.
    Also please stop using the words, "drive" and "driving". One rides a horse but drives a carriage.

  • @ΚίμωνΔέλιος
    @ΚίμωνΔέλιος 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    350 Meteor

  • @atulshukla4471
    @atulshukla4471 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    भाई से सब्जी बनाने वाला चमचा क्यों पकड़े हो

  • @jasondargonaut
    @jasondargonaut 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn't call the Meteor 350 a cruiser. The 650 is more akin to a cruiser with its heft, better build quality and more refined engine. You are not supposed to ride a cruiser in such a way as to scrape its pegs. The 650 has a proper forward set foot position and is more stable and capable for touring and on highways. The 350 is not a pure cruiser. Somewhat of a compromise like its Thunderbird predecessor.

  • @Wojtekpl2
    @Wojtekpl2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both are massively underpowered. And they lack rev counter.

    • @betruly7894
      @betruly7894 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's ok. Nothing is perfect. You will get rev counter then another complaint will raise... and so on never ends.
      It it is a time, I use to have a blast on 50cc bike not restricted like nowadays. then upgraded to 125cc WOW OMG what a rocket monster speed 🤣 Today I have liter bike however still missing the first time feelings of riding the 125cc.

    • @christopherpekel6096
      @christopherpekel6096 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not for most of the worlds roads

  • @rodneyhull9764
    @rodneyhull9764 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awful regressive machines

    • @betruly7894
      @betruly7894 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I bet you never ridden one bicycle your entire 9 years old. Grow and comeback.

    • @greggferns3278
      @greggferns3278 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If there is a market for them,and folk buy them,then the designers have done their job.Not everyone wants a sports bike or a naked that looks like a praying mantis.