The worst part of this whole Equifax situation is ultimately nothing will change. They're still going to collect and monitor everyone's info. They're still going to have _massive_ influence on people's lives with their credit scores. And there's nothing you can really do about it. Just have to play the game; roll the dice and hope it works out in your favor.
It's just a kid. We went through something like that. Nothing written on paper though. Just one day suspension. Principal came over talked to us. Said he understands but they have to follow rules. At school there is no pretending to shoot lasers etc..
i smashed up smarties put it in a little baggy labeld "white powder" went up to my teacher poured it across my finger and snorted it. I got a nose bleed which only made it look more like cocaine. However i got away with it.
I lived in Egypt as a little kid where we would get fake bomb threats called into our American school. If I had told a teacher that there was a BOMB in my backpack, I WOULD HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED!!! The kid needs to learn what is acceptable.
When that kid said he had a bomb in his book bag I had the picture of North Koreas missiles. But he probably had the picture of a Mario Bomb. I feel as if it's innocent until maybe the 6th grade. Educate these kids, don't just shut them out.
The issue being they are shut out at home.. IE... TV.. or games... Kids are very intelligent at a young age.. they learn what works fast.. its how they learn. Trial and error. Kick up enough fuss... the parent gives in if tired.. What the kid said was wrong.. it should be corrected... depends on the kid... at that age a 1 day suspension sounds right... Once you get to junior high.. it should all be in school supensions.
Jack Swenson or he held his class hostage and threatened to blow the bomb up if he was forced to listen to the teachers. Very manipulative and scary....white baby bin laden if you ask me
I'm from Spain, now living in Madrid, but I lived in Barcelona for 5 years and yes, the independent movement is noticeable, and the culture too. But once you live there you realize that Catalonia is multi cultural, a lot, and that in the streets the majority of people talks in Spanish (at least in BCN). But of course, I would love to see a fair vote on the issue, with a high level of participation that really could reflect the thinking of the general public, and if all comes to a separation, a good plan on how to create a stable Catalonia without Spain and a stable Spain without Catalonia.
Thanks for your comment. As someone who was borned and now still lives there it warms my heart seing people from other parts of Spain saying things like this. Un abrazo enorme
If things are taken with care both of them would raise stronger from it. Maybe it would be troublesome at the begining, but we (Spain with all it's regions) have emerged from worst situations
Thank u for speaking about the situation in Spain. I am from another region of Spain where it is common for people, including myself, not to feel "spanish". This is a very unfortunate situation because, on the one hand, the central government is and always has been extremelly incompetent when it comes to these regions' will for independence and although they keep saying that the only correct way of doing this is through dialog and democracy they are NOT willing to have a conversation about any sort of referendum. On the other hand, the catalonian government has organised this referendum in an objectively illegal way and have thus compromised many things that involve many people, in my opinion. They do not have an especific plan of action for when and if they achieve their voting goal. Imo, this is vital, as the way the e.u. is configurated, they would no longer be a part of it and there are many serious consequences of that, that people should know about. These are being silenced. They are creating usafe situations on the streets, that they of course knew would happen. They are also demonizing the people from Catalonia that are for some reason against this objectively illegal referendum and are planning not to vote. I firmly believe a referendum should happen. But I am really not happy with how both sides are acting, repression and violence versus trying to legitimize a necesary but wrongly organised and rushed referendum.
Educating instead of punishing is super important. I'm a special education major and learning about the disporportionality of punishment comparatively just shows how willing a teacher or district is willing to send a kid away or punish them just because they are difficult. I just think it's super important to educate and use strategies to go about language and behavior. I also like the floor is lava comparison. Kids will be kids.
The situation in Belgium isn't even CLOSE to being so extreme. There's no referendum, there's no riots, demonstrations, or rallies. The location of the capital, Brussels (which lies in the middle of Flanders), pretty much makes it impossible for Belgium to be split into two independent states/countries. The VAST majority of Belgians don't want their country to split, both in Flanders and Wallonia. That's not the case in Catalonia, where they want to leave Spain. The only thing that is even close to a "similarity" is that, from time to time, there's a bit of unrest between the three regions(Flanders, Wallonia, Brussels). Right now there's no possibility whatsoever that Belgium would ever split in the coming years.
I was referring to similarities with the roots of the frustration a significant number of people feel. The cultural, political and economical differences that are at the root of the conflict in Spain is the same in Belgium. Of course the situation itself is not as extreme. At least not yet, anyway. As for the vast majority of Belgians not wanting to split, that is no longer the case if you look at Flanders by itself, where their disparity grows significantly smaller.
The Ace Of Spades There was a reason he made bomb threats. (Which is illegal in school and anywhere. And they tell you this when you get your student handbook. They talk about this part and even tell you to talk about it with your parents. Which would show that the parents didnt give a shit) Yes he may be young but he should know that's wrong. If my kid went to that school and starting spitting out bomb threats I would think that he should be punished and I'm going to find out why that came up in his mind.
The thing about toxicity and the online community is that there's nothing you can do about it. The best thing you can do is just tone it out. Don't let yourself get offended by something someone you don't know said. They don't know you so why should something they said change how you feel? If you really are bothered so much by it then just simply mute them or find a new game. Other than that there's not much else to be done.
Sometimes thats hard when people have literally found your other social media and threatened you. My younger brother has literally had people find my social media and threaten to rape and kill us. It's much more than just some words at this point. Especially when they think your a minority or a women. As soon as they find my stuff they become more violent than they are with my brothers.
Sarah Roach yeah that’s cyber bullying and there is something that can be done about that. There’s a woman local to me who’s infamous for threatening other women over Facebook and she’s been arrested for it three times at this point.
Not playing games online because of toxic players is like not going outside because people are dicks, except I have a mute button online. I'm a lot more likely to meet someone toxic online, but I'm also a lot more likely to meet someone who could be a good friend, it's not that different.
Wow thanks for talking about Catalonia! I'm from the Netherlands and I never even heard of Catalonia, which is absurt we're not even that far away from each other. It's really interesting to hear about it thanks Phil!
Player 2 Wait, what? Scotland, Catalonia, Bavaria and I think it's Flandria (or Flanders, the soithern half of Belgium) even north of Italy and the north-west part of France and a few others are all known to have at least a party or two who want to break free from their current countries. Did you not learn that in school yet? Edit: Sorry for my bad English, it's been a while.
Domen Bremec From those, I only knew about Scotland. And even that's only because of the huge press coverage. Do you really expect me to remember every province of all countries in Europe? I hardly remember my own country's, Finland's, provinces...
It's good to see such an objective view on the catalan situation. I was born in Catalunya (Catalonia) and been living here my whole life, but my dad is british and my mother spanish so this is a really hard desision to make. My whole family is not catalan except for my siblings and i've seen the whole of spain and our cultural differences, whereas some of my friends have barely gone to Madrid and are surrounded by Catalan people, so it's really understandable for them to see themselves as a completly different country. And it really is quite different. Ever since our independence was taken by force in 1714 there's been some movement towards independence, albeit sometimes more intense sometimes less, and the dictatorship didn't help, but lately the spanish government has been forcing us to want to get out, by cutting on education, health, jobs... By trying to stop catalan beeing taught at schools (which is impossible in most places, the great majority of people speak catalan as their first language), by not listenig to what the people here want to say and just basically being completly dismissive of our diferences. Instead of embracing a multicultural state, the remnants of the dictatorship still haunt spain, turning the right wing corrupt and opressive and some "left" wing parties (we have more than two) into center-right. If it had been done right most catalans would be fine by having a bit more autonomy while still belonging to the spanish region (sort of like puerto rico and the US), but I think these last years have been a tipping point for some people and the only way they see to fix it is by leaving Spain. There's obviously good arguments for staying (which the government just ignores and argues that the referendum is unconstitutional) like border controll, a brexit-like situation, massive job loss... But some people are starting to see no other option for a better future. Even so, the only thing we're asking for is to be heard, because if voting is unconstitutional, we either need a new constitution or we can just accept Franco never left. Sorry for such a long comment, but this isn't something you easily write a short essay about.
Don't apologize for the long reply. It's not long enough to completely explain a very large topic, but I personally am fascinated but ignorant, and posts like this help a lot. Thank you for taking the time.
Gamb1t - Clash Royale And Clash Of Clans what he did was wrong and he needs to learn that when u do something wrong, you suffer consequences. Adding that to his permanent record (whatever that really means) is a little too much since he is only 5 but a one day suspension is pretty appropriate. Tho he will prob love it! He will have a day off to watch tv and play video games! Lol
So should a cop tackle a 5 year old kid for jay-walking and fleeing? What about a 4 year-old that creates a hysteria in their pre-k about breaking mothers' backs when stepping on cracks? Holy Shit, little Jenny thinks the floor is lava because Jeffrey told her! These kids are, obviously, not psychologically developed or learned in what is socially (or legally lol) appropriate. That's part of the point of primary school, to learn those things. Teachers do not normally expect a kid of that age to understand.
Jeff said to be nice. I think the toxicity problem is solved. But for real, you can never control what any person might decide to say online. Because of this, I mute people at the drop of a hat. If you so much as take a hostile tone with a teammate, I mute you. Instantly. It makes playing online so much nicer.
i mute every other person when I play CoD multiplayer. little kids and ungraceful losers are the worst. playing cod zombies is trickier because cooperation is necessary for getting to high rounds...
10 steps on how to deal with toxic people in games 1: Mute them 2: Mute them 3: Why haven't you muted them already? 4-9: Mute them 10: Report for toxicity
It's probably part of the promo deal to have an object from last months box appear physically in the video with Phil. But it was hilarious, so kudos to that shit.
Human Id As I commented above, I am a relative of Magdiel. It's a shame that police can be so trigger happy and overreact with deadly force at the slightest bit of danger and get off scott free. Magdiel couldn't hurt a fly. He was a very kind person. I can also confirm that he was deaf and did have some sort of developmental problem. The police had more than enough people to apprehend him without resorting to lethal force. If police are so afraid dangerous situations, then they need to choose a new occupation. I just fear for all of the undiagnosed mentally ill people out their that will lose their lives because of police incompetence. Anyway, I just had to get that off my chest
Thanks for covering the catalonia issue. First you have to understand that Spain is a very territorially complex country because of its history. So this is not an isolated case, there are many regions in Spain where people believe to have a very different cultural identity to the rest of Spain, not just Catalonia. About the language, let me tell you, ’Franco banning catalan’ is probably one of the most repeated things I’ve heard in the last 20 years. My dad, who was born in 1945, and who was the son of republicans (the loosing side) (so not a huge fan of franco), always says that it is not true that he banned Catalan, Basque or Galician. What Franco did was make Spanish the official language, which meant that every issue regarding administration, education or communication, had to be done in Spanish. Many argue that he was trying to unite the country after a civil war, since he thought that a single official language would be a strong marker of national identity. And he wasn’t the first or last to do this in Europe. In 1882, in France, The Jules Ferry laws designated French as the exclusive language of educational instruction. And the same happened in Ireland with English. The downside is that Franco’s policy, although considered helped to decrease illiteracy after the war, was in fact extremely regressive from a linguistic point of view, as it’s thought it contributed to the forcing of many of Spain’s regional languages to disappear. In the last 20-30 years, many political parties started to defend the right to make some of those languages official, so they wouldn’t disappear. Which is precisely why in the 90’s, every community was given the right to legislate about the language that it would be use in administration, education or communication. As a result in many provinces of Spain, today, in all public schools they teach math, history, geography or science in other languages different from Spanish. Which was a problem of itself, since many people who lived in Valencia, for example, and didn’t want their kids to learn in Valencian (the official language there), felt forced to take their kids to private schools were they would learn in Spanish and maybe have English or French as a second language. I think the most important issue with Catalonia’s independence is that is an economical and political issue hiding behind some very strong nationalist feelings. I defend the right of every Spaniard to decide it’s future. Even if that means putting a border between them and us. If it’s their choice, I won’t like it, but I won’t fight against it. However, the way is being done is deplorable, through illegality, and taunting Spanish Lawmakers, is definitely not the right way of doing it. Something similar happened in another region of Spain which you didn’t talked about, the Basque Country, that issue escalated with the radicalisation of some members of a political group and became ETA, a terrorist organisation who took the life of over 800 hundred people between 1961 and 2011. Radicalisation is not the answer, and it’s only going to get worse. We should be fighting to remove boundaries and to eliminate frontiers. Not to divide countries or build walls. Just so you understand why this is such a huge issue..If people in the US keep bringing up confederate flags, imagine how it is here, where we had a civil war only 78 years ago, and a dictatorship 42 years ago. EDIT: Wow, thank you for the likes, guys!
I never have understood the idea of trying to force people who do not want to be a part of your country to be a part of your country. It breeds resentment and sometimes violence\terrorism.
I mean... I feel bad for the disabled dude who got shot, but most people know not to walk towards police pointing guns at you while holding a makeshift weapon. But at the same time, if neighbors were shouting "He's deaf!", theres absolutely no fucking reason why the cop with the taser couldn't have just tased him so they could subdue him, rather than emptying half a magazine in his chest.
Michael Robbins thats a bullshit excuse. "Oh I didn't hear literally everyone yelling hes deaf, guess I am too". You're stupid if you believe that excuse. Ive had a gun and I've had one out in a high risk situation. I'm not highly trained and I dont get tunnel vision where I suddenly become deaf. A trained professional should not experience this, let alone two of them.
Michael Robbins like my dad breaking into my house and threatenining to kill my mom and I. It's why I got a damned gun. Thankfully I only had to shoot him in the shin before the drunk idiot realized his knife wasn't going to do shit against a gun. Idc if you believe me or not. Even if you dont, you still have to admit its a bullshit excuse for two trained and skilled officers to suddenly go deaf and shoot someone 5 times and taze them. 1 shot and taxing them would have been enough. No one is getting up from a gun shot wound and a tazer. The next 4 shots where stupid and unnessassry. Taking out his gun in the first place was unnessassry considering the guy just had a pole. Tell me, if you had a gun and a taxes and you had a guy slowly walking towards you with a pole would you really shoot him 5 times? Because id pick the tazer.
As a nanny, I have a kid I watch who makes up things about guns and bombs all the time. He’s the sweetest child in the world though so hearing this, pissed me off.
My neighbor's kid would go up to people and tell them he has "many many guns" in his pockets, and that's he's "not afraid to do what's necessary". Real gangsta this one. lol
That Girl Wearing Glasses he’s four but he has older brothers who play violent video games around him. (I have talked to his parents MANY times about this)
I feel like they took it too far as well, but in some of the more terrorist prone counties this is a thing that happens. So I understand why they are so severe, but seeing actions teachers have taken lately I can't be in full agreement of what they are doing.
How is suspension a punishment for a 5-year-old. "Honey, you've been bad, so you don't have to go to school today"........"YAY!" But seriously, how stupid. The teacher should have taken him aside and explained that that is not something we joke/lie about. A call to the kids parents just informing them of what he said would be enough.
The whole point of a suspension is so that the child will have a mark on their "permanent" record. I say "permanent" because I don't know how much someone's kindergarten year will affect them going to college. That's why I think the parents are overreacting just a smidge.
I as a teacher wouldn't even think of talking to the school board. Wtf, when a 5yo approches me saying he can't put down his backpack because theres a bomb in it, i would tell him that this is nothing to joke about and maybe ask the parents to come in and have a talk if he is maybe watching the wrong TV shows or shit like that. But i guess when kids are suspended for "threatening" a teacher with a "gunshaped" chickennugget, all hope is lost anyway...
if the cops had fired 1 shot i would say ok just bad luck but 5 shots fired by anyone else would be cold blooded murder or at the very least over kill.
1 shot rarely stops a threat, in a case in Oklahoma a gunfight occurred between a suspect and a cop in which the suspect was found with 23 gunshots in the chest and he only died when the cop shot him 3 times in the head
The Vegetarian Baker He seems to be about right in that sweet spot. Critically acclaimed and beloved by a certain kind of film athetic lover and just a little to indie to be a top tier box office draw.
I see where you are coming from. I just think that more people would love his movies if he got more press. That would come with a top tier box office draw, but i've never been disappointed.
In belgium we've being having the same kind of discussion as in spain. Belgium is made up of three language area's a big dutch and french part and a small germany part. In Flanders, where I live, there have been politicians calling for the splitting country in to two countries, Flanders (the dutch part) and Wallonia (the french/german part). The reason we haven't had a vote on it is, because only in Flanders is there a really call for a split and because we have a parlementarie system, we probably won't have a vote any time seeing as the parties that want to split have about 40% of the seats in flanders, meaning about 20% of the seats in belgium
Luis Roman i don't know man. I think it has something to do with the long peace there has been in europe. Because we have no common enemy we have more time to focus on interval minuscuul differences
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I am from Spain and from Madrid, I understand that if you don't feel part of something you may have the option to leave, but is not that simple, if they are backing them selfs by the constitution to be able to freely leave Spain as a country why we are all Spanish allow to vote as the constitutions says, this a national matter, so we all should vote, I as a person with friends in the area I want to be part of the decision made by voting if I want to start traveling to the area as an international trip, or for the businesses if they up to start dealing to this area as international relationship with customs, visas and permissions cause the UE don't want to back up this referendum and won't see them as an independent country, ask those families and their members in the Cataluña area an in the rest of Spain if they want to complicate they situation to visit each other... that's just the practical every day reason I think we all should vote to a nation matter, and of course they can not ask for a independent if they want to still receiving the social help, the pensions, the scholarships, if you go independent has to be completely not going independent as a name and control of your area but still depending of the central government for help, pensions, scholarships.... I don't believe this is the right thing to do, but it they really feel like that let's do it right, let's all Spanish vote, let's make the transition to a new country with new coins, new government, their own taxes etc, that takes time not just to vote a referendum.
Italian here.. regarding the Spanish situation.. My thoughts for Catalonia are the same for the north Italian regions that strive for the same thing.. Let them have their vote, if we are truly in a free world then they should have a choice on their future. But, good or bad, they should be ready for the consequences their choice brings.
Even deaf folks ought to know to drop a weapon and stop approaching cops with weapons drawn. On the other hand, the cops weren't called to the scene to investigate a guy brandishing a weapon or an assault. They guy approached but they gunned him down at 15 feet. Seems like there were about a billion other actions that could have been taken other than shooting a fat guy with a pipe 15 feet away. He was outnumbered, outgunned , no one else was in immediate danger and the cops weren't trapped.
No chance they could have backed up to the car off his property? Oh wait, no... The police aren't meant to keep the peace or De - escalate violent situations.
No chance they could have backed up to the car off his property? Oh wait, no... The police aren't meant to keep the peace or De - escalate violent situations.
i'm a programmer and make good money... i also pay a lot of taxes (only my income tax is 35%) so i get less from my country than i put in. so... just like Catalonia i want independence!! i just voted and with 100% of the votes (a full 1 vote) i declare Antonia to be an independent apartment!
Elijah Waithe - idgaf, i want them to go broke trying. and all the ceo's and board members, the heads of departments who agreed to not spending money on securing information that in the wrong hands could lead to destroying 150 million peoples lives. i want them to go broke too.
Sadly unrealistic.... but good idea in part. They should in fact be required to cover all those exposed due to their negligence with identity theft monitoring for life. That is actually doable all considered.
machinech - good idea, they should open a identity securities firm and give each and every one of those 143 million people lifetime accounts to which they supply around the clock top of line security protections to all of their information and assets. you get a golden star for creativity today. digital hi fives to you 👌👍👋👏👐
After the Equifax thing, my family's credit card got hacked. The hacker then used our credit card to buy video games on Redbox. That's it. It was so easy to get our card that he was just chillin' playing video games! Equifax done screwed up.
Holly Evans I how this gets straightened out for you soon and that your family is compensated in full and then some. This was wrong and could have been prevented
Regardless of whether this comment makes any difference I wanted to say a deep, heartfelt, thank you. I'm Catalan, I've followed your channel passively for years but a few days ago moved by the passion of my people and a sincere fear that our civil rights and freedoms will be squashed and the international community won't know or care I asked you on Twitter to cover our struggle (I know I probably wasn't the only one). I'm more impressed than I've ever been before with your coverage of the situation, it's thorough, impartial and demonstrates real interest in the issue. I've never admired you so much, there's so many lies and manipulations in the news and yet you managed to find the real thread and report it properly. I'm not a fanatic of independence but I believe in democracy and respecting people's rights and I know right now my family and friends are genuinely scared their rights could be violated and they could be arrested. I don't always agree with you but I will never forget this gesture, thank you for doing your job so well.
rivulet that's to easy m8. We need government legislation to prosecute these toxic 12 year Olds. Why should I have to mute people when companies and governments can pander to my feelings....
Yosepi Jenkins I have found that I win the same with or without people muted, so I'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying people use voice chat near you and it lets you hear them or something? Most people like myself are using discord.
For christs sake i cant believe they cited a code of conduct on a five year old, he probably cant even read the code of conduct, much less know anything about terroristic threats smh
Zule Productions No... He said theres a bomb in his backpack. If a 5 year old skips the cracks on a sidewalk, and says it's because the floor is lava, it's not him threatening to burn you alive. He's being creative and using his imagination.
InfoWarz Yes good luck with that one in court. Also saying the floor is lava and saying you have a fucking bomb in your backpack and its gonna explode are two completely diffrent things.
He didn't threaten anyone. I'm sure the teacher has been around this kid enough to know that he's just that: a kid. Sure, if he repeated this more than that first time, you increase the punishment. But since he's 5 and this was a one time thing, you just tell him why comments like that are not right. Heck, I pushed a kid over into a bunch of backpacks when I was 2nd grade yet all it took to make me burst into tears was the teacher moving my "card" from green to yellow.
TFW when you scroll through the comments and you can only find one about the story you're most interested in. Not saying the other stories aren't important, just that I was hoping to find more debate about the Catalonia dealio. I already know the gists of the other stories and understand where my opinions lay, but this one is different since I'm so far removed from the situation. If you don't mind, could you tell us more?
Except you actually don't _really_ get a say in the matter - if you've ever done anything involving credit, Equifax has your information. So, you know, financing a house, a car, college tuition, getting a credit card... things that the vast majority of people in the U.S. are basically required to do to function in this society. They are _going_ to track you and there's pretty much *nothing* you can do about it.
As someone who had to work in a IT security firm for over 4 years, an certificate authority, having revisions every 3 month from one or another corner of the world. The incompetence of the people at Equifax does not surprise me at all, it is expected and I'm more surprised that so many companies survive and live on.
Not really. Do I think companies should be expected to totally filter out all the crap from their games? Of course not, that's just not feasible. However, I don't think it's too much for people to ask that they make a bit more effort in shutting down these basement-dwelling turdburglars so that not every multiplayer game is a constant cesspool of screaming 10 year olds and racist, homophobic dildos.
I think sending in the military police into Catalonia to suppress the vote is a very misguided and idiotic thing to do on the Spanish government's part. The more one group tries to violently censor or discourage another through force, especially in government, it makes people more sympathetic to the other side. Spain may have just lost a good amount of stay voters because of this. When Ireland was fighting for freedom from Britain, England sent in what was known as Black and Tans to bully the Irish to stay with Britain. Instead their violence and cruelty led to more support for independence than ever as people were convinced that Britain would never treat them fairly. Hopefully this won't get to the level of Black and Tans, but its the same sentiment. This move, especially in this day and age, always backfires.
Olivia Mac Arthur I agree completely, if a state in any union wishes to leave said union, represitivies from the seceeding state should be sent to the United Nations and representivies from the government they are seceeding from, allowing both sides to plee or make a statement on the matter then having the moderatoring party decide
It's not censorship when the local gov't is doing something illegal and raising false hopes. No country in the world would accept whats happening in Spain. It's not like Ireland wanting independence from Britain but more like London from England, it could set a precedent to break up an entire country.
Hi Philip, I'm Spanish and I just wanted to thank you for talking about our situation in your channel, it kind of surprises me it has travelled all that far across the globe haha. Regarding the political scenario, I must say I'm not Catalonian, but I'm eager for Catalonian people to be able to choose whether they want to keep on being part of Spain or not. And that is because I believe in democracy. It might be anti-constitutional, but hey, slavery was also legal back then, just like tons of other things that have changed all over the centuries (countries themselves have changed their borders dozens of times). However, I also want to highlight that if they end up being independent, they're also gonna have to be it for good: no regrets nor hesitation from then on. Greetings!
As a Spainiard, I have no problem wit catalonian independence. However, it is a decision that affects ALL OF SPAIN, so i don't find it fair that only catalonians get to vote on such an important issue.
Actually no it is fair, back in 2014 when Scotland decided that they want to leave the United Kingdom, their referendum was only for them even if it was also going effect England, Northern Ireland and Wales. Only the scotish citzens were alould to vote.
DeFranco talking about my country 😯 really well explained Philip. We have police right now in the street in Barcelona and actually we are going to show up to vote anyway on Sunday. Hopefully without any violence
when i was in middle school and elementary school i had plenty of friends get suspended and it never followed them after high school those parents are stupid because now when their sons name is googled news articles and their interview is going to show up which will actually stick with him
Livio Faustini Hm you have a point. I guess they weren't expecting it to become big news. Though to be fair, just about everyone who sees those articles is probably gonna say "he's just a little kid, no biggie." It probably would say something to the effect of "made terroristic threats" on his record, not "had an imagination as little kid." The news doesn't seem to be painting him in a bad light, so it may not be much for them to worry about.
Regarding the Catalonian Independence section: I was born and I currently live in Barcelona, and although I am not pro-Independence, I do want my voice to be heard and I do want my vote to count. The Spanish government is currently hiding behind an archaic law that straight-up prohibits such exhibitions of democracy, so from a purely pragmatic point of view, they are in the right. But that is just plain fucking wrong. Denying 7 million people the right to vote for their own future simply because "it's against the law to do so" is as regressionist as you can get. They are manipulating every single Law-enforcing organism in Spain to put a stop to the referendum. They even fucking amended the constitution overnight so that they could tighten the grip on the Catalan government (Whilst all it would take to make this referendum legal would be an amendment to the constitution, which the Spanish government OBVIOUSLY refuses to do). Furthermore, whilst 7.000 Guardia Civil (Military Police) might not seem like much, do keep in mind that in Catalonia we have our own Police force (Mossos d'Esquadra) and that prior to this escalation in hostilities there were no more than, (at the most) 500 Guardia Civil units in Catalonia, so there's that. We will see how things develop, but things look Bleak for us Catalans that want to vote, and the most predictable outcome is the Generalitat (Catalan government) being dissolved and the Spanish government assuming total control over Catalonia. Love from Barcelona! PS: I'm really interested in what y'all think about this situation, do share some thoughts.
People are going to hang their hats on the reasons people want to vote but I personally don't think reasons matter. Even if Catalonia simply wanted a vote because of nationalism that is legitimate and should have a democratic vote. The only stipulation I would put is that the vote be mandatory on all qualifying citizens so you can count a true majority. On a matter of such importance only a true majority should be binding.
I live in Modesto, having moved here for family reasons several years ago. This story affirms my decision to have my hysterectomy last January; raising a child in this education system is child abuse.
[I live in Catalonia]: Just a little correction, the flags you have shown aren't actually Catalonia's flag. Those flags are called "Estelada" which comes from the word "Estel" that means Star this obviously referring to the Star that the flag features. The "Estelada" is a variation from the catalan flag and it was created a symbol of the independence movement. The actual Catalan flag named "La Senyera" only features 5 yellow and 4 red stripes horizontally. It is also important to remark that although the pro independence parties won by a majority of the seats in parliament they only got 47.5% of the actual votes. This goes along with the recent polls suggesting a 45/45/10 split for the yes, no and indecisive respectively. Catalonia's independence movement is a very complicated topic and far more information would be needed to gain a balanced understanding. Some important facts that were left out include things that the Planned Independence Referendum (often called 1-O for 1st of October, the day it's being held) was struck down by Spain's constitutional court or that a vast majority of people in Catalonia (80% according to polls) want an independence referendum that both the Spanish Government and the Catalan one agreed on to be held. To end up I would like to say that you can't even imagine the shithole you've just open as it is a highly polarizing topic both in Catalonia and Spain. Edit: Wording
THANK YOU. I also find it so deeply infuriating how most people outside discuss it as a completely different issue than it actually is. They bring up Franco and banning the language and oppression and what not and it's like "dude that's not the issue, that shit isn't even on the table today, not even the nationalists bring it up!". Like there are actual valid points here but outside of Spain the people and the media are completely oblivious to them and act like it's still a Franco thing.
Absolutely. There are legitimate reasons for both the stay and the leave side and in fact it's mostly about money and respect. On the other side there is one thing I do not fully agree with in your statement is the status of the language as in recent years there has recently been controversy around the language status in schooling as recent changes in education laws have weakened the language status. With all your other points I fully agree with them.
the last I heard, Primary school students had 15 hours a week in Catalan, 3 in spanish (just for Spanish class itself) and 2,5 in English. What has changed since then?
I'm spanish and I can say we're having a very difficult situation involving nationalisms. A lot of people don't want to express love for their country (like having flags or similar things, even football tshirts) in fear of being seen as extreme nationalists. Then you have regions such as Catalionia going as far as to ask (well, "ask") for independence. I mean I dont' have a big problem with them leaving, if they truly want and are allowed to do so, but I feel like they need to look beyond their own passion. As you said, they don't have a guaranteed place in the EU but also many companies are leaving Catalonia and moving to other regions since they don't want to be restricted to Catalonia or pay extra taxes in order to make business in the rest of the country. Economically, Spain needs Catalonia (it makes a lot of money from tourism and local businesses) but most importantly Catalonia needs Spain. I hope all this works out and we end up in the best scenario possible.
I did a lot on school that was "put on my permanent record"... Absolutely none of it followed me into adulthood, and none of it kept me from getting accepted into college or getting a job. "Permanent records" are a joke.
As a young adult from Spain, from the Galicia region (One of the many regions of Spain called "Autonomous Communities", a pseudo-federal style of government but it's really centralist) I have to say that yes, the current Constitution that stems from 1978, "The State cannot be divided". Technically it's illegal to hold a secesionist referendum, we would have to change the old Constitution in order to allow that. This old Constitution was written in the aftermath of Franco's dictatorship, which was ended in a "peaceful" period of democratic transition. Being serious, that part of the Constitution was clearly tailored for the purpose of calming the pro-Franco fascists like the extreme Falange (The political party that controlled the state during Franco's dictatorship, far right) and Alianza Popular (The seed of the party right now in the government, Partido Popular). Those two political parties were the heirs of Franco's government and thus shared the same interests in a lot of fields. For example, one of the tenants of Franco's dictatorship was the phrase "Spain is one,big and free" (Ironic, isn't it, the last word?). So, the Referendum is illegal because of the Constitution, but I would like a reform to this archaic paper to be a more democratic country and legallize any kind of secesion referendums, like our neighbor country, Great Britain, had with Scotland. I'm not pro independence but I'm pro choice. That's what democracy should be really about.
Hi Phil, thanks for talking about the Catalonian referendum, I actually didn't expect people from other countries to even know about this issue and you did it very well. I’m from Spain, but not from Cataluña (Catalonia) so I’m constantly hearing arguments against the referendum from the people around me. Some of the main ones are things like "the legal procedure implies that all Spaniards should be allowed to vote in a referendum, since Catalonia is part of Spain and belongs to all Spaniards, not only Catalonians", "the referendum is illegal and it’s not being held by the government but by people that want a specific outcome; therefore, the results can’t be trusted" or "lots of Catalonians want to be Spaniards too (these people suffer great oppression there in Catalonia), those people won't vote because it's illegal and they respect the law; thus, their opinion doesn't count". And they also respond to the complains about taxes: “we pay taxes in relation to our benefits, so rich regions pay more than the poor ones in order to help them, it’s a fair and balanced system” and “the independence will deeply hurt both the Spanish and the Catalonian economy, so it doesn’t make sense, specially since the last one would most likely stop being part of the UE”. Finally, it is said that approximately half of Catalonians don’t agree with separatists and would be forced to live in a different country if the independence happened. I have chosen to use quotes as I personally don’t stand on any side since I’m not very familiar with the catalonian nationalism or politics in general (I am 16) and I’m not able to have a well-formed opinion on it. I’m highly influenced by the opinions around me but I do think that the Spanish government should have handled this issue long ago, more peacefully and through a legal process based on dialogue and comprehension. Anyway, I hope this comment helped you understand a bit more and thanks again for talking about Spain.
Querida María, Soy de Barcelona y tu comentario me ha parecido de lo más interesante que he leído. Me alegra mucho saber que eres crítica con lo que cuentan las noticias o la gente a tu alrededor y que eres consciente de que mayormente solo escuchas una narrativa. Quería darte mi opinión, para que tengas algo con lo que comparar y creo que me servirá para desahogarme un rato. Ahora mismo la situación en Catalunya me tiene completamente frustrada e indecisa. Yo quiero lo mejor para Catalunya, pase eso por la independencia o no. Puede sonar egocéntrico, pero hoy por hoy no siento que le deba nada a España y de eso voy a culpar al PP y Telecinco. Coincido contigo con que no se habría llegado al follón de hoy en día si por ahí en el 2012, cuando hubo la 1ª gran manifestación por la independencia, que en mi opinión fue consecuencia de al menos dos cosas: los recortes y la sentencia del TC al Estatuto de Autonomía de Catalunya (2010) en el que básicamente después de 4 años de que se lo pensasen el TC declaraban inconstitucionales numerosas cosas que pedía Cataluña (esto es algo recurrente que siempre ha pasado, y continua pasando), no recuerdo exactamente que se pedía (yo tenía tu edad), pero si recuerdo que todo el mundo hablaba de tener un modelo de financiamiento como el del País Vasco y Navarra. No sé si lo conoces, se llama Régimen Foral y básicamente consiste en que la comunidad autónoma se recoge sus impuestos y después manda lo que toca al gobierno central en lugar de Hacienda recaude y después devuelva a las comunidades. Así que se deniega una cosa que ya existe en otras comunidades y causa mucha indignación. Pero como decía al principio del párrafo (me enrollado, lo siento) si al menos el gobierno hubiera hecho algo (lo del financiamiento) para apaciguar a la gente, creo que todo se habría quedado en nada. Después de esto, tampoco quiero darte una clase de historia, pero básicamente, Mas convoca elecciones anticipadas por que hacer una consulta no estaba previsto en su hoja de ruta. Gana y hay el 9-N. Aquí creo que es verdad cuando se dice que se hizo política de la situación. Todo me pareció muy repentino e incongruente: hay una gran manifestación y se concluye que mucha gente quiere la independencia? ¿Y esto es motivo suficiente para convocar elecciones solo para hacer una consulta? En fin, por aquel entonces tampoco me tomaba lo de la independencia muy en serio, inocente de mi me parecía más una herramienta para expresar la indignación con el Gobierno y que cedieran en algo. Después de esto es más o menos lo que debes de conocer: el gobierno catalán pidiendo hacer un referéndum, en Madrid negándose rotundamente, en Cataluña se pide diálogo, en Madrid se niegan (REPEAT una cuantas veces). Después Madrid habla de diálogo, pero que no negociará un referéndum, hace unos días de federalismo (que es algo que hace unos años Cat habría querido) pero Cataluña dice: HAHA ¿ahora? TOO LATE. Y lo que llaman el “choque de trenes”, aquí nadie baja del burro y no sé cómo se arregla el asunto. En cuanto a la posible Independencia y el Referéndum del 1-Oct: El Referéndum es ilegal, y te parecerá obvio, pero aquí hay quien todavía dice que es perfectamente legítimo, irónicamente los CUP son los que lo han llamado desobediencia desde el primer día. Y el referéndum es ilegal porque el Tribunal Constitucional lo ha dicho. Yo no tengo ni idea de derecho, pero por lo visto es anticonstitucional. Lo cual me parece lógico si consideras que tenemos una constitución de 1978 que se hizo justo después de 30 años de dictadura. Hizo su labor en un momento muy delicado para España pero han pasado muchos años y necesita reformas, muchas. García-Margallo (PP) lo decía el otro día en un programa (mi razonamiento: si lo dice hasta uno del PP debe ser verdad). Una de estas múltiples reformas podría ser dejar hacer un referéndum. La constitución no es inamovible y teniendo en cuenta que en Escocia, Quebec, se han hecho referéndums parecidos no me parece que estemos pidiendo barbaridades. Y en cuanto a la Independencia de Cataluña te diré que lo que más reticencia me da es la incertidumbre de cómo sería una Cataluña independiente. Supongo que has escuchado todos los argumentos en contra: Cataluña tiene una deuda enorme con el FLA, no formaría parte de la Unión Europea, que pasa con las empresas, las pensiones, etc. Por otro lado, aquí nos cuentan que sí sería posible y que no estaríamos endeudados por tanto tiempo. Con el dinero que no se quedaría España seríamos capaces de cubrir los nuevos gastos necesarios de instituciones (que imagino que no serían tantos ya que en Cataluña siempre ha estado todo por duplicado) y que aún habría dinero para ir cubriendo la deuda. ¿Es eso cierto o es un cuento chino? Pues no tengo ni idea, me inclino por pensar que debe haber algo de verdad pero no me lo trago todo. Mientras tanto no se si te has enterado pero el Gobierno ha mandado a un montón de Policía del resto del país y los tiene alojados en cruceros de vacaciones en el puerto de Barcelona porque nadie los quería hospedar HAHAHA. Parece el inicio de un chiste: ¿Qué hacen 7.000 guardias civiles en un crucero de vacaciones amarrado en Barcelona? -Esperar al 1-Oct a ver si alguien sale a votar. :D
Laura Campderà Muchas gracias por pararte a leer mi comentario y por ayudarme a ver la otra cara de la moneda. La verdad es que me ha resultado más útil de lo que pensaba, supongo que porque algunas cosas en tu comentario me resultan nuevas dado que no he estado al tanto de lo que pasaba en Cataluña durante los últimos años. Ahora entiendo un poco mejor los motivos que llevan a querer declarar la independencia, y que el hecho de que se haya estado impidiendo por la vía legal solo acentúa este deseo. La obstrucción de la democracia nunca es la mejor opción, y esta vez claramente ha hecho todo se nos vaya de las manos. Al final, lo único que nos queda es esperar a ver cómo se desarrollan los acontecimientos de aquí al 1 de Octubre y ver qué ocurre después. Pero gracias a tu comentario ahora tengo mucho más contexto y no me siento tan perdida en todo este asunto. Has conseguido arrojar un poco de luz, pues solo tenía de referencia las opiniones de mi familia y amigos cercanos, quienes difieren claramente con los separatistas. Supongo que no todo es blanco y negro, y que cada uno tiene parte de razón en sus argumentos. Muchas gracias de nuevo por todo y ya veremos que acaba ocurriendo. 😊
Phil! this is so great that you covered the Catalan story! I've been following you for some years now, and to hear you talking about us and where we live and the injustice arround it all makes me so happy. The situation is far more complicated than anything you could read about. I'm catalan and I had never been much of a nationalist, not spanish nor catalan. But central government ignoring us, after no repercusion for all the atrocities commited by Franco during his dictatorship and the fact that most of the politicians in Madrid are grandsons of those who ruled next to Franco, made me and many others consider voting yes. We are constantly ignored, belittled and straight up robbed of our money. The situation is complicated also because some catalans don't want to stop being a part of Spain, but after what happened on Wednesday, many people who were not going to vote have now made their minds up and will vote on the first of october. Also, look up the way everything is moving, vote ballots and electoral places, it's very interesting. So I hope people understand that all we want to do is VOTE and that we've been draged in to this situation (also, if you research a little into the Partido Popular government its FULL of corruption). Thanks for this Phil!
Maria BB well the dictatorship ended more than 45 years ago, what is the central government supposed to do about that? Is it their fault? No. Are they corrupted? Yes, but so are the people trying to divide Spain. You can't just go and throw away the constitution, that's not how law works, that's not how politics should work. Do you really want independence? Do you want to be pulled from the UE? I really feel like this is some kind of vendetta for something that happened a long time ago... I don't mean any offense, I just don't get it, I feel that Catalonia is an important part of Spain, at some point we should leave the past go, and move forward
Well, first off, it ended 42 years ago, and yes it's their fault, not directly the dictatorship, but all the corpses (of murdered people, both sides, but especially republicans) that are still unburied and for expelling the only judge who was investigating. So is that the government's fault? yes. Is the Catalan government corrupt? no, the previous one was, and no one can deny now, but what you have now is a coalition of different people from very different ideologies, (maybe listen to Philip a little too). And even if it was, there's no comparing one with the other, the Partido Popular has more than 60 cases of corruption in their party and ARE STILL IN POWER. That should prove the kind of party they are. No one is trying to divide Spain, we just wanted better treatment like other regions have (like the Basc), but since more than 25 years have gone by without any consensus between the central government and our autonomic government, we decided to try another route. One that has scared the central government and who now is STRAIGHT UP violating democratic rights. Barbara, we only want to vote. And I know you don't get it and mean no offense, I mean none to you either, but please, we cannot forget what this country (Spain) has gone through, and the constitution is OLD AS FUCK, and the PP has changed it without blinking an eye. So please, inform yourself a little, and don't use that cheap political language. This is two opinions clearly opposed to the problem.
Maria BB where are they violating democratic rights? They're doing their job! You can't just let people do whatever they want just because they want so, are they corrupt? Yes of course! No one is denying that! But what solution do you propose? Let the PSOE rule again? Another corrupted party? Sure, lets do it! It did not go well last time, it won't go well this time either. What do we do? Let Iglesias and his stupid communist party govern? People voted the PP, it is what it is, what do you want a coup d'état?Well yeah the constitution is old AF, but Catalonia is still Spain, even if we write it all again, it will still be a problem. Because Catalonia was never, ever an independent state, not even 400 years ago. Why would it start being independent now? What rights do you feel entitled to that other Spanish people shouldn't have? And don't you dare say that they don't want to divide Spain! That's all they want! We (the rest of the Spanish people) are robbing Catalonia according to them! Like, how? Where? Why? It's just insanity, these protests are going way too far, people aggressing guardias civiles because they're doing their job!! They should be ashamed. I'm not saying all people are doing it, and I'm not saying all independentistas are crazy people who just want to throw our country in the garbage. But there are some people that are saying that the central government is a dictatorship, that we are robbing them, that all their problems are because they can't vote that referendum.
And it is even worst. The Partido Popular is invoking they dutty on trying to defend the constitution, but... 1-They are constantly violating it by letting Banks evict people, therefore violating one of the most fundamental contitutional right, the right to have a decent housing. And several others. Today an article was talking up to 23 of the Contitutional laws being systematicly violated. Yed, they got their mouth full talking about defending the Constitution. 2-They have changed the Contitution numerous times in the middle of August, at night and with malice aforethought. And why, you may ask? Because in August people is on vacation, most politicians are aswell, and people can't protest in the same way they could, lets say, on September 1st. The changes have been heavily protested anyway, but it's a fact they like to ignore the people chanting on the streets (See protest against the war a few years back) 3-They are accusing the Catalan goberment of missusing of the Public Funds by paying the Referendum with the money of all of us. How many times have the goberment spent in with the three big fucking boats they have fleet in the port of Barcelona? Or all the policeman from all over spain staying for a month? And if that is not enought, but should be, how MANY MILLIONS found in Switzerland on the name of the Barcenas, or how many millions wasted in Valencia? Or in the waters of Madrid (aka Canal Panama). And are they in jail? Nope, they have been having a beatiful vacations at our expenses. Why? Because the goverment decides de judges, and the judges do what they are told to do. I'm just gonna say one thing about the central goberment in Spain. The hypocrisy is strong in this one.
Inform yourself. To suspend a territory's autonomy is violating democratic rights and one of the prime fundamentals in Europe. Catalunya was an independent state (read a book not just only listen to la COPE or whatever). No one said the spanish people are robbing, it's your government. If what you want to do is sing the spanish anthem and go to see some bulls getting killed while shooting inmigrants in the south of spain's border to marroco, be my guest. We do not feel identified with the central government and let me remind you that a couple of years ago, the spanish government tried to forbid catalan from schools. Sound familiar? ofcourse. I'd like you to visit catalonia and just think for yourself for once. I love Spanish people and this is sad, but your government doesn't listen. WE JUST WANT TO VOTE
"Mad"? Thats throwing people together You dont know how strongly "People" feel emotionally about everything But i guess you are just mad that people care!
JJTheWiser haha JJ the “wiser” I’m not trying to label everyone, I’m just saying that people like you will get sour about the smallest of things. Good job this reply just put you in the people group that I was talking about in my comment.
I get mad if I drop a Cheeto on the ground when I'm eating a bag, and I'll also get mad in someone breaks into my house, rapes me and my dog, Oliver, ties us up and burns the house down. "Anything and everything" is entirely too broad to make any kind of reasonable point. Maybe saying the "littlest thing" would perfectly paint the picture you're trying to express.
Spanish young woman born and raised in spain here: 1) Yes, Catalonia has always been very vocal about its uniqueness: language, customs, booming economy. And they are so very rich culturally, yes. But, there's an enormous big BUT. Their region, so economically powerfull, has been plagued for 40+ decades with political leeches. Pretty early after the stablishment of our democracy after the fascist dictatorship that Franco governed, the government of catalonia was clawed deep and good by one Jordi Pujol i Soley. To sum thing up, he was president of the Generalitat for 23 years, got married to Marta Ferrusola, and nicely and neatly put all of their seven children into government positions once they were grown up. So, the family known as de Pujol Ferrusola, are being accused and going into court for several charges, every single one of them related to or having to do with their political power. They are knee deep into hidden fortunes (not declared and therefore not taxed), undue and illegal commissions because they were not made by public contest and just assigned to the highest bidder that could pay their prices, and money laundering through his government (the patriarc, Jordi Pujol). Just to name a few things. There are more. Once the Justice Administration and the prosecution started unraveling, they discovered that Carles Puigdemont (Jordi Pujol's succesor) is aswell being investigated bc of a strong trace of his acts into the Pujol Ferrusola's scheemes and crimes. And with him, most of the big political faces of Catalonia. SO: that's just a very, very glossed over resumé, but with the 1-O referendum they are obscuring all the news about the court's proceedings and developments, and how the central government is just giving for lost all the millions that were taken/stolen, and so on. They are pumping it up and feeding it to the press, just so they aren't able to report on every single scandal. 2) Catalonia's politicians are NOT following the constitution nor the constitutionally stablished process to petition for a Referendum, nor abbiding the Courts' order of not doing the 1-O (that *does not* forbide them of actually call in a Referendum). 3) Catalonia is NOT wealthy enough to substain the minimum social services, and it's demanding payment for them. As in, they want independence, but do not want to pay retirements, social security, public health services, and so on, for X years to come. 3.5) Also, Basque Country's privileges are a studied exception with the tax benefits and special laws. In the Spanish Constitution was recognised the 'Derechos Forales' or foral rights, remnants of medieval ages and special concessions made between 700+ to 1.000+ years ago, that are a (controversial) legacy. They are exclusive of their autonomous community (and not provinces, there's a difference) and cannot be conceeded to another one without a heavy, heavy political process and legal action. They are mostly about unimportant things, but, yes. Basque Country is pretty lucky with their money and taxes, yes. 4) The central government is as badly corrupted as the Catalonian government if not even more, and BOTH are benefiting from pulling the wool over the population with petty little civil disputes born from ignorance and fed with half lies and half distractional tactics so they can safely play into the fear factor to keep being voted to be the ones with the power. BOTH. It's just a fact that every single one of the big politicians of this country are thieves. Proven by courts, or currently being proven by the prosecution, depending on every particular case. 4.5) There are extremists in every faction here, and they are making as much noise as they can. That does not mean that they are the majority. 5) EU's law is clear about this: Catalonia would not be inmediatly into the EU and would have to pass the process. Anyhow, excuse any mistake and I'm sorry if you read it all. It's just all smoke and mirrors over here, in my personal opinion. Nothing will happen except repressional actions from the central government that will make everything worse, and then they'll continue to be as they are: shameless thieves put in power by people being tricked to be scared of 'the other ones'.
Rob Knight. I couldn't really say for sure. The corruption on both sides is too deep to try and assess the possible outcomes with any degree of neutrality, bc in the end, it will end up being whatever the corrupt governments want, whatever that may be. In my opinion they want distracting news and civil disagreements that could become (and are becoming) somewhat violent until they can brush their dirty laundry under the carpet *again*.
Felix Peels There is a whole lot of politics and tactical movements from powerful families underneath it all and it's just insane how far in the past things go. Some of the politicians arrested were out of warrants made specifically for the 1-O situation, since they acted against the high court's decission... And some of the arrests were bc of the previous corruption cases pre-dating the referendum. You would be awed at the sheer quantity of open cases and even summary procedures that there are. If it were up to me, personally, I'd call a Referendum for the whole nation and see what everybody thinks, not just Catalonia, about whether Catalonia is or is not part of Spain. And then, try to work it out democratically and within the legal channels. No need to bloody up our streets again, the Spanish Civil War' effects are still latent on the country.
I love the point you mentioned about the kid. Educate don't punish. So then the kid will understand what is wrong with what he did. If he's punished he'll never learn
If Cataluña gets their independence Barça would not be able to play in La Liga, no need to threaten, it's in the rules of the competition, no teams outside of Spain can play there.
As a Quebecker, the fact that Madrid doesn't allow them to even hold a referendum is scary. I believe that it was Wodrow Wilson who said that every nation should be allowed to rule themselves. Trying to go against a referendum is anti-democratic and kinda hints that Spain isn't totaly out of the Franco era.
Well... Put simply, there was a due process to hold a referendum. The central goverment said "we have bigger fish to fry, that referendum is a waste of money, help us do the rest first", then the PP (Partido Popular, a branch off of a branch off of the fake political party of the dictator Francisco Franco) stoked the flames by saying no (they were majority at the time, nearly 7 years ago), so Catalunya did a referendum (that used public funding) without the main goverment's permission (which, if you're going to do with public money that the main goverment gives you for other things, you kinda need)... And it has been done several times to varying degrees of success, with the main goverment's denial of it (PP still has majority votes thanks to alliances with other parties), and gained traction because they've been told so many times. Spain is out of the Franco Era. In a pretty major way... Otherwise Madrid would probably be doing a lot better in general - not to mention FBC would be less popular (Franco was so keen on the FBC losing to his favourite Madrid team that he actually sent a representative to tell them off for winning the first game.... No joke) What Spain is... It's back in a Parliamental Monarchy - ie, they're following a constitution that's focused on the Monarchy not losing any more power. The referendum itself is somewhat anti-democratic, seeing as it doesn't follow the spirit of all being equal. If you live here, and you don't have a spaniard DNI with the patronage of Catalonia (ie, if you're not spaniard Catalonian) you won't get mail telling you to vote... in the referendum... The connotations of that aside, the referendum only requires 30% of the population and is relying on absolute majority, ie. 51% of 30% - meaning that if only 15% vote for independence, everyone is independent. There is the argument that "if you don't want it, vote no" - but in spite of the main goverment's sh***y attitude, they are right to say it's unconstitutional (see Parliamental Monarchy), so they're most likely sh***ing their pants in front of the possibility of losing their jobs and any kind of leverage (ie, probably not gonna get help with any embezzling and might get prosecuted for being anti-constitutional themselves, even in the name of democracy) The political state as of now can really be defined by fear, confusion, and greed. It's a crying shame.
Wait.. what? I always thought the "permanent record" thing was a made-up threat to frighten and motivate the goody kids into perfect behavior. It doesn't scare the rebels because they dgaf about any records lol
shadowwolfgem s I've been suspended 3-4 times, and got in a few fights, even leaving deep bite marks in a person's arm as a kid, and they threw me in advanced/highest-tier classes just because I aced tests. Your record really doesn't mean shit, your GPA does, cause that's determining what college will take your cash.
leeah galaxies There's a pretty big chance that my work might try to call me in on my day off tomorrow. I think I'll try the hippo excuse to get out of it
As someone who suffered through a public education in central California, I’m sad to say this type of asinine lack of common sense among the school administration is widespread. It’s also disheartening to have the old adage “those who can, do; those who can’t, teach” so thoroughly proven. It makes it so much harder for those shining educators who are actually GOOD to do their jobs without hanging their heads in sorrow.
Phil... You have 6 pillows on your couch. Each respectively have just over 20 triangles per pillow, so that means If we multiply 6 by just over 20, and let's see.. Carry the one, um, well uh... Sir you have 129.5 completed triangles on your pillow total. Not sure why I think like this, but check... I'm sure you'll see I am correct. Have a nice day
Look, me and my husband have played WoW for over 10 years. It's a haven for trolling and hate speech. I don't blame the game at all for this; they can't weed out all the baddies. It's up to me, as a player, to utilize the tools they supply me with; the mute button, the block button, or the report button. These online games have "age restrictions" for a reason. YES, there are complete assholes and racists online playing video games. You can only filter out these douchebags so much; report, block, and move on and enjoy your gaming experience. Replying to them only fuels their fire. The internet will never be a "safe space" for anyone, it's just too large of a task for any company to completely filter.
Niki Nak I think one thing that could actually help is notifying people when a report actually has an effect. I'm sure most people don't even bother to report because they think it won't do anything
Lol, WoW no haven for any kind of speech/writing. The games so well designed people don't socialize and they just follow the dot on the map :S Trade chat is a ghost town and my server is medium population
I think that the kid should be taught why what he said wasn't right. He's a kid, kids are still learning and putting something on his permanent record for saying there is a bomb in his backpack is wrong. He didn't even say that he was gonna blow everyone up or that he was gonna hurt people.
Yeah, all they needed to do was call the kids parents and figure out how they would express the current sensitivity of that subject to him. I don't think it warrants discipline of any kind, to be honest. Kid's five, there was no intent beyond play and imagination.
It IS possible to play online games frequently and not become toxic. I have never 'slipped up' and used a slur, racial or otherwise, despite having played online games for over a decade. Yes, I get annoyed with people and may stop healing someone if they're being an ass but I won't scream, yell or call them a slur word.
thank you. any raging i do is internal, because in no way will it help the team play any better, and i've never understood why people spend their energy cursing instead of focussing on the game. i've been playing online games for about 8 years now
If there were more online players like you I might actually play something other than private matches. I'll never understand how people can get so aggressive over something that's meant to be fun. It's like everyone's forgotten the point of video games these days -_-
Epic Walrus Youre right, if more people were like him, youd hate playing with people who try to lose. If you arent competitive, then play norms. If you play norms expect people who arent trying to win simple.
I might get a little pissed if I lose or something goes wrong, but I say "damn it," "how did he kill me but I didn't kill him," "no, fuck you," but I don't raise my voice much above speaking volume, I don't say it when I can be heard by the person I'm annoyed/angry at, and I don't use slurs ever. It doesn't matter if Pewds is actually a racist or not, it was wrong. What's more, it doesn't help gamers look like reasonable people either.
If everybody was yelling "He's deaf!" then it shoudn't have been hard to hear because they were yelling the same thing. But then again, I wasn't there. This story just breaks my heart.
But they're not a bunch of fans yelling lyrics in perfect sync at a concert. It would be a bunch of different people screaming random shit all at the same time. When u have tunnel vision, all the noise is blurred into random cacophony. The adrenaline release process literally cuts off your vision and hearing severely.
No, it's parents. Parents need to watch and control what their kids are doing online. If I had a kid and I caught him using those kinds of slurs, he wouldn't be playing again for a long time.
Wolf Written sir, your child said the b word at school today and we want to know where he got that word from? "It was the purple ball that talks to me at night"
When they took my backpack when I was 5, I freaked out. My mother had left her husband and took 3 kids across the country to a new place with nothing but the clothes we had on and a few bags. That backpack was more than just a toy or a thing to me, it was one of the only things I felt was reliable, was gonna be there tomorrow. Just felt like sharing.
I really have to pee, but I'm trying to think of a comment to post first before I go to the bathroom.
Happy Thursday and SEE YOU TOMORROW!
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Philip DeFranco give me head phil
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The worst part of this whole Equifax situation is ultimately nothing will change. They're still going to collect and monitor everyone's info. They're still going to have _massive_ influence on people's lives with their credit scores. And there's nothing you can really do about it. Just have to play the game; roll the dice and hope it works out in your favor.
Shiny Rayquazza and we cannot opt out of it!! It's bullshit. What gives them the right to collect this info
Shiny Rayquazza whatever we need is a die hard fire sale
Shiny Rayquazza You're a legendary talk to Arceus and tell him to make this world better
Cassie H There's no possible way that we would have another corperation that can replace Equifax.
CovertBrony there are 2 who do the same job. They are not needed.
Hippos *are* pretty deadly...
Trey is awesome
We know...
Stonehawk it could get you at least 4 days suspensions
Eric B Get in trouble or piss off a hippo. Kids have tough choices these days.
they are indeed
Equifax to United Airline: Hold my beer.
DeadHeroOrAliveVillain 1019 mr meseeks 😂😂😂
Watch this!
It's just a kid. We went through something like that. Nothing written on paper though. Just one day suspension. Principal came over talked to us. Said he understands but they have to follow rules. At school there is no pretending to shoot lasers etc..
Its on your permanent record... yea, you'll never find a job now..... (Honestly, I used to love hearing them say that.)
i smashed up smarties put it in a little baggy labeld "white powder" went up to my teacher poured it across my finger and snorted it. I got a nose bleed which only made it look more like cocaine. However i got away with it.
Reis World I live in Modesto and it sucks but our permanent record really does follow us until we graduate
I lived in Egypt as a little kid where we would get fake bomb threats called into our American school. If I had told a teacher that there was a BOMB in my backpack, I WOULD HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED!!! The kid needs to learn what is acceptable.
/s Right because no one ever gets to have fun at school. That would defeat the whole purpose!
When that kid said he had a bomb in his book bag I had the picture of North Koreas missiles. But he probably had the picture of a Mario Bomb. I feel as if it's innocent until maybe the 6th grade. Educate these kids, don't just shut them out.
MacisStrange nah I feel like innocent until 4th or 5th, they probably know the gravity of the word by then..
I believe 4th graders are 9/10 years old
InfinityReptar 4th is 8 or 9 lmao.
Potato Smasher no, just say that it's something they shouldn't say, and that it could be considered a threat.
The issue being they are shut out at home.. IE... TV.. or games...
Kids are very intelligent at a young age.. they learn what works fast.. its how they learn. Trial and error. Kick up enough fuss... the parent gives in if tired..
What the kid said was wrong.. it should be corrected... depends on the kid... at that age a 1 day suspension sounds right...
Once you get to junior high.. it should all be in school supensions.
"...threat with a deadly mammal..."
a a nah that just makes it better
Makes him sound like a mad cartoon villian
Rawr
Technically he was trying to save his class from the bomb, if he was a terrorist he would have taken his backpack off.
lol you're right, didn't think about that.
Plot twist: The teachers the terrorist? Trying to get the kid to bomb the place?
Jack Swenson White people logic lol
Jack Swenson or he held his class hostage and threatened to blow the bomb up if he was forced to listen to the teachers. Very manipulative and scary....white baby bin laden if you ask me
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The "metal pipe" was a walking stick. The words metal pipe were used to make it seem more threatening. It's deaf awareness week. This is so fucked.
Genuinely curious; Why would a deaf person use a walking stick? He wasn't blind.
@@Magnetar_Haunt Some deaf people can have balance issues due to problems with the inner ear.
I love that you've extended your show to almost 20 minutes now! can't get enough of it!
sheree 20 mins of getting "Phil'd in"?
Sign me up, please.
As long as the stories a good ;)
sheree I was wondering about that. Wasn't sure how long they were originally. Either way #winning 🤓🤘
Equifax done fucked up
They Equifucked me. :(
I'm from Spain, now living in Madrid, but I lived in Barcelona for 5 years and yes, the independent movement is noticeable, and the culture too. But once you live there you realize that Catalonia is multi cultural, a lot, and that in the streets the majority of people talks in Spanish (at least in BCN). But of course, I would love to see a fair vote on the issue, with a high level of participation that really could reflect the thinking of the general public, and if all comes to a separation, a good plan on how to create a stable Catalonia without Spain and a stable Spain without Catalonia.
Daniel Piña OMG a fair and balanced suggestion on a political topic. Don't bring that stuff to reddit though. They hate that stuff there.
Too true
Thanks for your comment. As someone who was borned and now still lives there it warms my heart seing people from other parts of Spain saying things like this. Un abrazo enorme
I don't think spain can be stable without catalonia that's why they forbid them to vote.
If things are taken with care both of them would raise stronger from it. Maybe it would be troublesome at the begining, but we (Spain with all it's regions) have emerged from worst situations
Thank u for speaking about the situation in Spain. I am from another region of Spain where it is common for people, including myself, not to feel "spanish". This is a very unfortunate situation because, on the one hand, the central government is and always has been extremelly incompetent when it comes to these regions' will for independence and although they keep saying that the only correct way of doing this is through dialog and democracy they are NOT willing to have a conversation about any sort of referendum. On the other hand, the catalonian government has organised this referendum in an objectively illegal way and have thus compromised many things that involve many people, in my opinion. They do not have an especific plan of action for when and if they achieve their voting goal. Imo, this is vital, as the way the e.u. is configurated, they would no longer be a part of it and there are many serious consequences of that, that people should know about. These are being silenced. They are creating usafe situations on the streets, that they of course knew would happen. They are also demonizing the people from Catalonia that are for some reason against this objectively illegal referendum and are planning not to vote.
I firmly believe a referendum should happen. But I am really not happy with how both sides are acting, repression and violence versus trying to legitimize a necesary but wrongly organised and rushed referendum.
María C SAME AF! you couldn't have explain better! I'm from Valencia and I think im some things Catalonia has gone way too far
Saludos desde Tenerife
Educating instead of punishing is super important. I'm a special education major and learning about the disporportionality of punishment comparatively just shows how willing a teacher or district is willing to send a kid away or punish them just because they are difficult. I just think it's super important to educate and use strategies to go about language and behavior. I also like the floor is lava comparison. Kids will be kids.
The situation in Spain is SUPER interesting.
Look up Flanders and Walloonia in Belgium for similarities.
The situation in Belgium isn't even CLOSE to being so extreme. There's no referendum, there's no riots, demonstrations, or rallies. The location of the capital, Brussels (which lies in the middle of Flanders), pretty much makes it impossible for Belgium to be split into two independent states/countries. The VAST majority of Belgians don't want their country to split, both in Flanders and Wallonia. That's not the case in Catalonia, where they want to leave Spain.
The only thing that is even close to a "similarity" is that, from time to time, there's a bit of unrest between the three regions(Flanders, Wallonia, Brussels). Right now there's no possibility whatsoever that Belgium would ever split in the coming years.
zer o More similar, though maybe more extreme example, would be the breakup of Yugoslavia ~25 years ago en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_Yugoslavia
Can't see much from my window sadly.
I was referring to similarities with the roots of the frustration a significant number of people feel. The cultural, political and economical differences that are at the root of the conflict in Spain is the same in Belgium. Of course the situation itself is not as extreme. At least not yet, anyway.
As for the vast majority of Belgians not wanting to split, that is no longer the case if you look at Flanders by itself, where their disparity grows significantly smaller.
So instead of teaching the kid, they just punish him with no explanation. Makes sense.
The Ace Of Spades actually a perfect microcosm of our public education system unfortunately.
The Ace Of Spades they gave the parents a letter and I'm sure the teacher explained to him what was wrong. Do not say stupid things for likes.
The Ace Of Spades There was a reason he made bomb threats. (Which is illegal in school and anywhere. And they tell you this when you get your student handbook. They talk about this part and even tell you to talk about it with your parents. Which would show that the parents didnt give a shit) Yes he may be young but he should know that's wrong. If my kid went to that school and starting spitting out bomb threats I would think that he should be punished and I'm going to find out why that came up in his mind.
edd1EroxPwDblah tf is your problem? The school was clearly grasping for any violation to justify their teachers idiocy.
You might think the suspension was enough to tell the kid what he did was wrong
The thing about toxicity and the online community is that there's nothing you can do about it. The best thing you can do is just tone it out. Don't let yourself get offended by something someone you don't know said. They don't know you so why should something they said change how you feel? If you really are bothered so much by it then just simply mute them or find a new game. Other than that there's not much else to be done.
right, like most online games don't utilize mute/kick/block user buttons
Sometimes thats hard when people have literally found your other social media and threatened you. My younger brother has literally had people find my social media and threaten to rape and kill us. It's much more than just some words at this point. Especially when they think your a minority or a women. As soon as they find my stuff they become more violent than they are with my brothers.
At that point, contact your local authorities. This stuff is not that hard to figure out.
Sarah Roach yeah that’s cyber bullying and there is something that can be done about that. There’s a woman local to me who’s infamous for threatening other women over Facebook and she’s been arrested for it three times at this point.
Not playing games online because of toxic players is like not going outside because people are dicks, except I have a mute button online.
I'm a lot more likely to meet someone toxic online, but I'm also a lot more likely to meet someone who could be a good friend, it's not that different.
hehe rekt
Brian Sullivan
if you dont go out in real life u will die much sooner than your natural death...
i think thats a big difference
True Freedom is the Beauty of Life going out just to survive sounds like a sad life to me.
Electronaut
true a sad one indeed but my reply was just to show one of the most important differences lol
now go out and have fun
True Freedom is the Beauty of Life but you can respawn
Wow thanks for talking about Catalonia! I'm from the Netherlands and I never even heard of Catalonia, which is absurt we're not even that far away from each other. It's really interesting to hear about it thanks Phil!
Player 2 serieus? -.-
Quinten Oerlemans
Lol what ?
How do you not know Catalonia?
Player 2 Wait, what? Scotland, Catalonia, Bavaria and I think it's Flandria (or Flanders, the soithern half of Belgium) even north of Italy and the north-west part of France and a few others are all known to have at least a party or two who want to break free from their current countries.
Did you not learn that in school yet?
Edit: Sorry for my bad English, it's been a while.
Domen Bremec From those, I only knew about Scotland. And even that's only because of the huge press coverage.
Do you really expect me to remember every province of all countries in Europe? I hardly remember my own country's, Finland's, provinces...
It's good to see such an objective view on the catalan situation.
I was born in Catalunya (Catalonia) and been living here my whole life, but my dad is british and my mother spanish so this is a really hard desision to make. My whole family is not catalan except for my siblings and i've seen the whole of spain and our cultural differences, whereas some of my friends have barely gone to Madrid and are surrounded by Catalan people, so it's really understandable for them to see themselves as a completly different country. And it really is quite different. Ever since our independence was taken by force in 1714 there's been some movement towards independence, albeit sometimes more intense sometimes less, and the dictatorship didn't help, but lately the spanish government has been forcing us to want to get out, by cutting on education, health, jobs... By trying to stop catalan beeing taught at schools (which is impossible in most places, the great majority of people speak catalan as their first language), by not listenig to what the people here want to say and just basically being completly dismissive of our diferences. Instead of embracing a multicultural state, the remnants of the dictatorship still haunt spain, turning the right wing corrupt and opressive and some "left" wing parties (we have more than two) into center-right.
If it had been done right most catalans would be fine by having a bit more autonomy while still belonging to the spanish region (sort of like puerto rico and the US), but I think these last years have been a tipping point for some people and the only way they see to fix it is by leaving Spain.
There's obviously good arguments for staying (which the government just ignores and argues that the referendum is unconstitutional) like border controll, a brexit-like situation, massive job loss... But some people are starting to see no other option for a better future.
Even so, the only thing we're asking for is to be heard, because if voting is unconstitutional, we either need a new constitution or we can just accept Franco never left.
Sorry for such a long comment, but this isn't something you easily write a short essay about.
Don't apologize for the long reply. It's not long enough to completely explain a very large topic, but I personally am fascinated but ignorant, and posts like this help a lot. Thank you for taking the time.
"I can't come to you, theres a hippo over there!" omg Phil your kid is the cutest. Im totally using that now.
I cant believe they suspended a kid for something the kid doesn't even understand
Gamb1t - Clash Royale And Clash Of Clans yea
Gamb1t - Clash Royale And Clash Of Clans what he did was wrong and he needs to learn that when u do something wrong, you suffer consequences. Adding that to his permanent record (whatever that really means) is a little too much since he is only 5 but a one day suspension is pretty appropriate.
Tho he will prob love it! He will have a day off to watch tv and play video games! Lol
Gamb1t - Clash Royale And Clash Of Clans Just because they're young does not make them stupid or oblivious to the world.
So should a cop tackle a 5 year old kid for jay-walking and fleeing? What about a 4 year-old that creates a hysteria in their pre-k about breaking mothers' backs when stepping on cracks? Holy Shit, little Jenny thinks the floor is lava because Jeffrey told her! These kids are, obviously, not psychologically developed or learned in what is socially (or legally lol) appropriate. That's part of the point of primary school, to learn those things. Teachers do not normally expect a kid of that age to understand.
That could end up with a school shooting.
Jeff said to be nice. I think the toxicity problem is solved.
But for real, you can never control what any person might decide to say online. Because of this, I mute people at the drop of a hat. If you so much as take a hostile tone with a teammate, I mute you. Instantly. It makes playing online so much nicer.
i mute every other person when I play CoD multiplayer. little kids and ungraceful losers are the worst. playing cod zombies is trickier because cooperation is necessary for getting to high rounds...
I'm a huge fan of blacklisting (muting) anyone that is abusive or an ass hat in anyway.
ah, online gaming! the amount of 11 year olds that have intimate carnal knowledge of my 71 year old mother is truly epic. :P
Fig Jam 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
"Threat with a deadly mammal." I can't. 😂
Tara Rhoades I thought he said mammal?
bluchismoon probably.
10 steps on how to deal with toxic people in games
1: Mute them
2: Mute them
3: Why haven't you muted them already?
4-9: Mute them
10: Report for toxicity
Can someone tell me how online games became so toxic in the first place? I can't even play online games without headphones near my family.
Lmfao wtf is that cut scene of you admiring that lord of the rings cup 😂
That got me too!
It's probably part of the promo deal to have an object from last months box appear physically in the video with Phil.
But it was hilarious, so kudos to that shit.
LOL :-)
A guy with a pole isn't means to shoot with a pistol. Taser is fine if they really felt threatened, but seriously? Shooting him? Ño
Human Id As I commented above, I am a relative of Magdiel. It's a shame that police can be so trigger happy and overreact with deadly force at the slightest bit of danger and get off scott free. Magdiel couldn't hurt a fly. He was a very kind person. I can also confirm that he was deaf and did have some sort of developmental problem. The police had more than enough people to apprehend him without resorting to lethal force. If police are so afraid dangerous situations, then they need to choose a new occupation. I just fear for all of the undiagnosed mentally ill people out their that will lose their lives because of police incompetence. Anyway, I just had to get that off my chest
Thanks for covering the catalonia issue.
First you have to understand that Spain is a very territorially complex country because of its history. So this is not an isolated case, there are many regions in Spain where people believe to have a very different cultural identity to the rest of Spain, not just Catalonia.
About the language, let me tell you, ’Franco banning catalan’ is probably one of the most repeated things I’ve heard in the last 20 years.
My dad, who was born in 1945, and who was the son of republicans (the loosing side) (so not a huge fan of franco), always says that it is not true that he banned Catalan, Basque or Galician. What Franco did was make Spanish the official language, which meant that every issue regarding administration, education or communication, had to be done in Spanish. Many argue that he was trying to unite the country after a civil war, since he thought that a single official language would be a strong marker of national identity. And he wasn’t the first or last to do this in Europe. In 1882, in France, The Jules Ferry laws designated French as the exclusive language of educational instruction. And the same happened in Ireland with English.
The downside is that Franco’s policy, although considered helped to decrease illiteracy after the war, was in fact extremely regressive from a linguistic point of view, as it’s thought it contributed to the forcing of many of Spain’s regional languages to disappear. In the last 20-30 years, many political parties started to defend the right to make some of those languages official, so they wouldn’t disappear. Which is precisely why in the 90’s, every community was given the right to legislate about the language that it would be use in administration, education or communication. As a result in many provinces of Spain, today, in all public schools they teach math, history, geography or science in other languages different from Spanish. Which was a problem of itself, since many people who lived in Valencia, for example, and didn’t want their kids to learn in Valencian (the official language there), felt forced to take their kids to private schools were they would learn in Spanish and maybe have English or French as a second language.
I think the most important issue with Catalonia’s independence is that is an economical and political issue hiding behind some very strong nationalist feelings.
I defend the right of every Spaniard to decide it’s future. Even if that means putting a border between them and us. If it’s their choice, I won’t like it, but I won’t fight against it. However, the way is being done is deplorable, through illegality, and taunting Spanish Lawmakers, is definitely not the right way of doing it.
Something similar happened in another region of Spain which you didn’t talked about, the Basque Country, that issue escalated with the radicalisation of some members of a political group and became ETA, a terrorist organisation who took the life of over 800 hundred people between 1961 and 2011. Radicalisation is not the answer, and it’s only going to get worse.
We should be fighting to remove boundaries and to eliminate frontiers. Not to divide countries or build walls.
Just so you understand why this is such a huge issue..If people in the US keep bringing up confederate flags, imagine how it is here, where we had a civil war only 78 years ago, and a dictatorship 42 years ago.
EDIT: Wow, thank you for the likes, guys!
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Great comment, thank you for that context
NewsFromNY are you a history teacher ? Good Info thank you !
NewsFromNY are you a historian? Thank you for the info !
Thank you for taking the time to give us your insight. I hope the situation ends peacefully for all of you there.
Everyone just needs to relax sometimes
fightmefairy lol right?
They should get some manners too.
And open up to reason
fightmefairy I
Spain: You can't leave because it's unconstitutional.
Catalonia: Yeah... but we don't want your constitution anymore.
Brynley Louise 👌👍
California and Texas are in the same situation as Catalonia. So is Spain and the US villains?
Brynley Louise 👌👍
Smartza Peple pretty much every year a bew country is being created.
I never have understood the idea of trying to force people who do not want to be a part of your country to be a part of your country. It breeds resentment and sometimes violence\terrorism.
I mean... I feel bad for the disabled dude who got shot, but most people know not to walk towards police pointing guns at you while holding a makeshift weapon.
But at the same time, if neighbors were shouting "He's deaf!", theres absolutely no fucking reason why the cop with the taser couldn't have just tased him so they could subdue him, rather than emptying half a magazine in his chest.
Rocket Man they obviously didn't hear them lol
Michael Robbins thats a bullshit excuse. "Oh I didn't hear literally everyone yelling hes deaf, guess I am too". You're stupid if you believe that excuse. Ive had a gun and I've had one out in a high risk situation. I'm not highly trained and I dont get tunnel vision where I suddenly become deaf. A trained professional should not experience this, let alone two of them.
Sarah Roach high risk situation like what, pretty sure you're pulling that out of your ass
Michael Robbins like my dad breaking into my house and threatenining to kill my mom and I. It's why I got a damned gun. Thankfully I only had to shoot him in the shin before the drunk idiot realized his knife wasn't going to do shit against a gun. Idc if you believe me or not. Even if you dont, you still have to admit its a bullshit excuse for two trained and skilled officers to suddenly go deaf and shoot someone 5 times and taze them. 1 shot and taxing them would have been enough. No one is getting up from a gun shot wound and a tazer. The next 4 shots where stupid and unnessassry. Taking out his gun in the first place was unnessassry considering the guy just had a pole. Tell me, if you had a gun and a taxes and you had a guy slowly walking towards you with a pole would you really shoot him 5 times? Because id pick the tazer.
Sarah Roach I've never been able to take someone down with taxes.
As a nanny, I have a kid I watch who makes up things about guns and bombs all the time. He’s the sweetest child in the world though so hearing this, pissed me off.
My neighbor's kid would go up to people and tell them he has "many many guns" in his pockets, and that's he's "not afraid to do what's necessary". Real gangsta this one. lol
Katrina L That’s exactly why I love kids 😂
Starr Briscoe guns and bombs? How old is that child?
That Girl Wearing Glasses he’s four but he has older brothers who play violent video games around him. (I have talked to his parents MANY times about this)
Kids have imaginations. I understand the fear over violence in schools in America, but this is a 5yo. The whole situation is being taken too far.
A grown human accused a 5 year old of terroristic threats. It's time to get a grip
I feel like they took it too far as well, but in some of the more terrorist prone counties this is a thing that happens. So I understand why they are so severe, but seeing actions teachers have taken lately I can't be in full agreement of what they are doing.
Okay Ranger it's happened before. Kids bring guns to school too. Gorillaz even wrote a song inspired by it.
Yeah obviously it should be taken seriously but they accused him of terrorist activity...... Hes 5 and just wanted to keep his backpack on
How is suspension a punishment for a 5-year-old. "Honey, you've been bad, so you don't have to go to school today"........"YAY!"
But seriously, how stupid. The teacher should have taken him aside and explained that that is not something we joke/lie about. A call to the kids parents just informing them of what he said would be enough.
Jessica agreed
Jessica Most suspensions around where I live are "in-school" and kids pretty much just sit in a designated room doing nothing all day.
The whole point of a suspension is so that the child will have a mark on their "permanent" record. I say "permanent" because I don't know how much someone's kindergarten year will affect them going to college. That's why I think the parents are overreacting just a smidge.
He's probably on an nsa priority list because of the word terrorist when the first marking wasnt terrorism related so its kind of messed up.
I as a teacher wouldn't even think of talking to the school board. Wtf, when a 5yo approches me saying he can't put down his backpack because theres a bomb in it, i would tell him that this is nothing to joke about and maybe ask the parents to come in and have a talk if he is maybe watching the wrong TV shows or shit like that. But i guess when kids are suspended for "threatening" a teacher with a "gunshaped" chickennugget, all hope is lost anyway...
if the cops had fired 1 shot i would say ok just bad luck but 5 shots fired by anyone else would be cold blooded murder or at the very least over kill.
1 shot rarely stops a threat, in a case in Oklahoma a gunfight occurred between a suspect and a cop in which the suspect was found with 23 gunshots in the chest and he only died when the cop shot him 3 times in the head
Even at 7ft most shots miss, with that much adrenaline your lucky to hit one with a full clip. It's not like video games.
I got excited the second you said Wes Anderson. I feel like is very under appreciated.
The Vegetarian Baker
He seems to be about right in that sweet spot. Critically acclaimed and beloved by a certain kind of film athetic lover and just a little to indie to be a top tier box office draw.
I see where you are coming from. I just think that more people would love his movies if he got more press. That would come with a top tier box office draw, but i've never been disappointed.
The Vegetarian Baker I love his work so much, whenever I hear his name I get so pumped
B R I G H T L Y C O L O R E D P A S T E L S
Honestly, I've been waiting for him to do another animated film since I saw Fantastic Mr. Fox.
You gotta suspend Trey. Threat with a deadly mammal is a serious offense.
In belgium we've being having the same kind of discussion as in spain. Belgium is made up of three language area's a big dutch and french part and a small germany part. In Flanders, where I live, there have been politicians calling for the splitting country in to two countries, Flanders (the dutch part) and Wallonia (the french/german part). The reason we haven't had a vote on it is, because only in Flanders is there a really call for a split and because we have a parlementarie system, we probably won't have a vote any time seeing as the parties that want to split have about 40% of the seats in flanders, meaning about 20% of the seats in belgium
MrBrawler65 wats with countries wanting to split
Luis Roman i don't know man. I think it has something to do with the long peace there has been in europe. Because we have no common enemy we have more time to focus on interval minuscuul differences
I am from Spain and from Madrid, I understand that if you don't feel part of something you may have the option to leave, but is not that simple, if they are backing them selfs by the constitution to be able to freely leave Spain as a country why we are all Spanish allow to vote as the constitutions says, this a national matter, so we all should vote, I as a person with friends in the area I want to be part of the decision made by voting if I want to start traveling to the area as an international trip, or for the businesses if they up to start dealing to this area as international relationship with customs, visas and permissions cause the UE don't want to back up this referendum and won't see them as an independent country, ask those families and their members in the Cataluña area an in the rest of Spain if they want to complicate they situation to visit each other... that's just the practical every day reason I think we all should vote to a nation matter, and of course they can not ask for a independent if they want to still receiving the social help, the pensions, the scholarships, if you go independent has to be completely not going independent as a name and control of your area but still depending of the central government for help, pensions, scholarships.... I don't believe this is the right thing to do, but it they really feel like that let's do it right, let's all Spanish vote, let's make the transition to a new country with new coins, new government, their own taxes etc, that takes time not just to vote a referendum.
Italian here.. regarding the Spanish situation.. My thoughts for Catalonia are the same for the north Italian regions that strive for the same thing.. Let them have their vote, if we are truly in a free world then they should have a choice on their future. But, good or bad, they should be ready for the consequences their choice brings.
lolwut[ITA] it's not a free world it's free state depending were you live
*I'm just dumbfounded by Equinox's incompetence. Utterly stunned.* 😑
Even deaf folks ought to know to drop a weapon and stop approaching cops with weapons drawn. On the other hand, the cops weren't called to the scene to investigate a guy brandishing a weapon or an assault. They guy approached but they gunned him down at 15 feet. Seems like there were about a billion other actions that could have been taken other than shooting a fat guy with a pipe 15 feet away. He was outnumbered, outgunned , no one else was in immediate danger and the cops weren't trapped.
You underestimate what a pipe can do.
No chance they could have backed up to the car off his property?
Oh wait, no... The police aren't meant to keep the peace or De - escalate violent situations.
No chance they could have backed up to the car off his property?
Oh wait, no... The police aren't meant to keep the peace or De - escalate violent situations.
Dan & Jen Nevada you start talking about what people ought to know you are going down a very slippery slope
It's also worth mentioning the man supposedly had a developmental disorder.
i'm a programmer and make good money... i also pay a lot of taxes (only my income tax is 35%) so i get less from my country than i put in. so... just like Catalonia i want independence!! i just voted and with 100% of the votes (a full 1 vote) i declare Antonia to be an independent apartment!
Have you heard of "Petoria"?
Anton Vainer I vote in favor
Anton Vainer are you actually being serious? This is just stupid
Anton Vainer did the police break in and break your polling box? No? No wonder your vote went so smoothly. Have fun with the invading army
How has Equifax not been sued into oblivion? What they did was reckless.
Equifax should pay everyone's credit card debit.
Fuckizoid I don’t think most developed countries could do that, let alone Equifax
Elijah Waithe - idgaf, i want them to go broke trying. and all the ceo's and board members, the heads of departments who agreed to not spending money on securing information that in the wrong hands could lead to destroying 150 million peoples lives. i want them to go broke too.
Sadly unrealistic.... but good idea in part. They should in fact be required to cover all those exposed due to their negligence with identity theft monitoring for life. That is actually doable all considered.
machinech - good idea, they should open a identity securities firm and give each and every one of those 143 million people lifetime accounts to which they supply around the clock top of line security protections to all of their information and assets. you get a golden star for creativity today. digital hi fives to you 👌👍👋👏👐
After the Equifax thing, my family's credit card got hacked. The hacker then used our credit card to buy video games on Redbox. That's it. It was so easy to get our card that he was just chillin' playing video games! Equifax done screwed up.
which games did you get and are you enjoying them? XD
Holly Evans oof
Holly Evans did you get it fixed?
Holly Evans I how this gets straightened out for you soon and that your family is compensated in full and then some. This was wrong and could have been prevented
Holly Evans what games did he get? Lol
Regardless of whether this comment makes any difference I wanted to say a deep, heartfelt, thank you. I'm Catalan, I've followed your channel passively for years but a few days ago moved by the passion of my people and a sincere fear that our civil rights and freedoms will be squashed and the international community won't know or care I asked you on Twitter to cover our struggle (I know I probably wasn't the only one).
I'm more impressed than I've ever been before with your coverage of the situation, it's thorough, impartial and demonstrates real interest in the issue. I've never admired you so much, there's so many lies and manipulations in the news and yet you managed to find the real thread and report it properly. I'm not a fanatic of independence but I believe in democracy and respecting people's rights and I know right now my family and friends are genuinely scared their rights could be violated and they could be arrested. I don't always agree with you but I will never forget this gesture, thank you for doing your job so well.
I have voice chat muted 24/7 on PUBG, that's how I deal with toxicity online.
rivulet that's to easy m8. We need government legislation to prosecute these toxic 12 year Olds. Why should I have to mute people when companies and governments can pander to my feelings....
Marcus Lopez i hope that's sarcasm
Yosepi Jenkins I have found that I win the same with or without people muted, so I'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying people use voice chat near you and it lets you hear them or something? Most people like myself are using discord.
Communication between who?
When your kid makes their first bomb threats..
They blow up so fast!
Gotten37 Just stop.
Punny
For christs sake i cant believe they cited a code of conduct on a five year old, he probably cant even read the code of conduct, much less know anything about terroristic threats smh
Whofan06 ......he threatened to blow up the school...
Zule Productions No... He said theres a bomb in his backpack. If a 5 year old skips the cracks on a sidewalk, and says it's because the floor is lava, it's not him threatening to burn you alive. He's being creative and using his imagination.
So at what age do we take threats like this seriously? 7? 8? 9? Thank god he got suspended.
InfoWarz Yes good luck with that one in court. Also saying the floor is lava and saying you have a fucking bomb in your backpack and its gonna explode are two completely diffrent things.
He didn't threaten anyone. I'm sure the teacher has been around this kid enough to know that he's just that: a kid. Sure, if he repeated this more than that first time, you increase the punishment. But since he's 5 and this was a one time thing, you just tell him why comments like that are not right. Heck, I pushed a kid over into a bunch of backpacks when I was 2nd grade yet all it took to make me burst into tears was the teacher moving my "card" from green to yellow.
I know a guy from Spain and he is incredibly upset about this
Octavio Espinoza very helpful!!
theTWILIGHThunter thank
TFW when you scroll through the comments and you can only find one about the story you're most interested in. Not saying the other stories aren't important, just that I was hoping to find more debate about the Catalonia dealio. I already know the gists of the other stories and understand where my opinions lay, but this one is different since I'm so far removed from the situation.
If you don't mind, could you tell us more?
Portugal loves this, if Catolonia leaves, Galicia may leave and join portugal
That checks out.
"death with a deadly mammal" - New shirt idea. Would buy 10/10
At this point I think I'm going to directly seek out phishing sites and give them all my information. Seems safer than giving it to Equifax.
Except you actually don't _really_ get a say in the matter - if you've ever done anything involving credit, Equifax has your information. So, you know, financing a house, a car, college tuition, getting a credit card... things that the vast majority of people in the U.S. are basically required to do to function in this society. They are _going_ to track you and there's pretty much *nothing* you can do about it.
Shiny Rayquazza you hide behind the millions of hacked accounts and hope he doesn't get picked.
I completely understand, hippos are pretty mean.
As someone who had to work in a IT security firm for over 4 years, an certificate authority, having revisions every 3 month from one or another corner of the world. The incompetence of the people at Equifax does not surprise me at all, it is expected and I'm more surprised that so many companies survive and live on.
Mute and move forward. Asking for any more is shifting the responsibility on unrelated people.
Junoh Productions Wait what? Why should I have to ignore racism shouldn't they just not be racist?
valleyviking011 No. People are different with different views and ideals. Just mute and move forward.
valleyviking011 Yes, they don't mean it. When you stub your toe you probably swear, your not swearing at the chair your swearing for relief.
Not really. Do I think companies should be expected to totally filter out all the crap from their games? Of course not, that's just not feasible. However, I don't think it's too much for people to ask that they make a bit more effort in shutting down these basement-dwelling turdburglars so that not every multiplayer game is a constant cesspool of screaming 10 year olds and racist, homophobic dildos.
people who dont mute and forward are just salty ...
I think sending in the military police into Catalonia to suppress the vote is a very misguided and idiotic thing to do on the Spanish government's part. The more one group tries to violently censor or discourage another through force, especially in government, it makes people more sympathetic to the other side. Spain may have just lost a good amount of stay voters because of this. When Ireland was fighting for freedom from Britain, England sent in what was known as Black and Tans to bully the Irish to stay with Britain. Instead their violence and cruelty led to more support for independence than ever as people were convinced that Britain would never treat them fairly. Hopefully this won't get to the level of Black and Tans, but its the same sentiment. This move, especially in this day and age, always backfires.
Olivia Mac Arthur good point. I remember my grandad telling me about the black and tans raiding their house and holding his mom at gunpoint.
it IS a stupid move. almost suspiciously stupid.
Olivia Mac Arthur great point and thks have to learn about this for my jc
Olivia Mac Arthur I agree completely, if a state in any union wishes to leave said union, represitivies from the seceeding state should be sent to the United Nations and representivies from the government they are seceeding from, allowing both sides to plee or make a statement on the matter then having the moderatoring party decide
It's not censorship when the local gov't is doing something illegal and raising false hopes. No country in the world would accept whats happening in Spain. It's not like Ireland wanting independence from Britain but more like London from England, it could set a precedent to break up an entire country.
I am having a fantastic Thursday Philly and I hope all you guys are too
Hi Philip, I'm Spanish and I just wanted to thank you for talking about our situation in your channel, it kind of surprises me it has travelled all that far across the globe haha. Regarding the political scenario, I must say I'm not Catalonian, but I'm eager for Catalonian people to be able to choose whether they want to keep on being part of Spain or not. And that is because I believe in democracy. It might be anti-constitutional, but hey, slavery was also legal back then, just like tons of other things that have changed all over the centuries (countries themselves have changed their borders dozens of times). However, I also want to highlight that if they end up being independent, they're also gonna have to be it for good: no regrets nor hesitation from then on. Greetings!
I can't. There's a hippo over there.
Rachel Hope It's always those damn hippos...
I'd like your comment but there's a hippo over there.
the hippo had no choice but to sleep
Imma use that next time my dad tells me to do the dishes.
"I can't, there's a hippo over there"
As a Spainiard, I have no problem wit catalonian independence. However, it is a decision that affects ALL OF SPAIN, so i don't find it fair that only catalonians get to vote on such an important issue.
eustaquio olimpico wtf spainiard. It's Spanish
Actually no it is fair, back in 2014 when Scotland decided that they want to leave the United Kingdom, their referendum was only for them even if it was also going effect England, Northern Ireland and Wales. Only the scotish citzens were alould to vote.
Jose Andres Barrios spaniard en ingles significa un nativo o habitante de españa
Your family can give you advice and support, but at the end of the day YOU decide who or what you want to be.
spaniard is also correct (actually its more correct)
DeFranco talking about my country 😯 really well explained Philip. We have police right now in the street in Barcelona and actually we are going to show up to vote anyway on Sunday. Hopefully without any violence
when i was in middle school and elementary school i had plenty of friends get suspended and it never followed them after high school those parents are stupid because now when their sons name is googled news articles and their interview is going to show up which will actually stick with him
Livio Faustini Hm you have a point. I guess they weren't expecting it to become big news. Though to be fair, just about everyone who sees those articles is probably gonna say "he's just a little kid, no biggie." It probably would say something to the effect of "made terroristic threats" on his record, not "had an imagination as little kid." The news doesn't seem to be painting him in a bad light, so it may not be much for them to worry about.
Regarding the Catalonian Independence section:
I was born and I currently live in Barcelona, and although I am not pro-Independence, I do want my voice to be heard and I do want my vote to count. The Spanish government is currently hiding behind an archaic law that straight-up prohibits such exhibitions of democracy, so from a purely pragmatic point of view, they are in the right. But that is just plain fucking wrong. Denying 7 million people the right to vote for their own future simply because "it's against the law to do so" is as regressionist as you can get. They are manipulating every single Law-enforcing organism in Spain to put a stop to the referendum. They even fucking amended the constitution overnight so that they could tighten the grip on the Catalan government (Whilst all it would take to make this referendum legal would be an amendment to the constitution, which the Spanish government OBVIOUSLY refuses to do).
Furthermore, whilst 7.000 Guardia Civil (Military Police) might not seem like much, do keep in mind that in Catalonia we have our own Police force (Mossos d'Esquadra) and that prior to this escalation in hostilities there were no more than, (at the most) 500 Guardia Civil units in Catalonia, so there's that.
We will see how things develop, but things look Bleak for us Catalans that want to vote, and the most predictable outcome is the Generalitat (Catalan government) being dissolved and the Spanish government assuming total control over Catalonia.
Love from Barcelona!
PS: I'm really interested in what y'all think about this situation, do share some thoughts.
Opuri i
People are going to hang their hats on the reasons people want to vote but I personally don't think reasons matter. Even if Catalonia simply wanted a vote because of nationalism that is legitimate and should have a democratic vote. The only stipulation I would put is that the vote be mandatory on all qualifying citizens so you can count a true majority. On a matter of such importance only a true majority should be binding.
5 year olds are too dangerous.
Smh come on Phil you know this
I'm a first grade teacher. I had a 6 year old bring a knife in my class with the intention of stabbing another student. Crazy stuff happens.
I live in Modesto, having moved here for family reasons several years ago. This story affirms my decision to have my hysterectomy last January; raising a child in this education system is child abuse.
Let's just jump into it.......
Let's not
And..... 9 months later new baby....
[I live in Catalonia]: Just a little correction, the flags you have shown aren't actually Catalonia's flag. Those flags are called "Estelada" which comes from the word "Estel" that means Star this obviously referring to the Star that the flag features. The "Estelada" is a variation from the catalan flag and it was created a symbol of the independence movement. The actual Catalan flag named "La Senyera" only features 5 yellow and 4 red stripes horizontally. It is also important to remark that although the pro independence parties won by a majority of the seats in parliament they only got 47.5% of the actual votes. This goes along with the recent polls suggesting a 45/45/10 split for the yes, no and indecisive respectively. Catalonia's independence movement is a very complicated topic and far more information would be needed to gain a balanced understanding. Some important facts that were left out include things that the Planned Independence Referendum (often called 1-O for 1st of October, the day it's being held) was struck down by Spain's constitutional court or that a vast majority of people in Catalonia (80% according to polls) want an independence referendum that both the Spanish Government and the Catalan one agreed on to be held.
To end up I would like to say that you can't even imagine the shithole you've just open as it is a highly polarizing topic both in Catalonia and Spain.
Edit: Wording
StratGC Nuke?
It also means "Hope" in Sindarin.
THANK YOU. I also find it so deeply infuriating how most people outside discuss it as a completely different issue than it actually is. They bring up Franco and banning the language and oppression and what not and it's like "dude that's not the issue, that shit isn't even on the table today, not even the nationalists bring it up!". Like there are actual valid points here but outside of Spain the people and the media are completely oblivious to them and act like it's still a Franco thing.
Absolutely. There are legitimate reasons for both the stay and the leave side and in fact it's mostly about money and respect. On the other side there is one thing I do not fully agree with in your statement is the status of the language as in recent years there has recently been controversy around the language status in schooling as recent changes in education laws have weakened the language status. With all your other points I fully agree with them.
the last I heard, Primary school students had 15 hours a week in Catalan, 3 in spanish (just for Spanish class itself) and 2,5 in English. What has changed since then?
I'm spanish and I can say we're having a very difficult situation involving nationalisms. A lot of people don't want to express love for their country (like having flags or similar things, even football tshirts) in fear of being seen as extreme nationalists. Then you have regions such as Catalionia going as far as to ask (well, "ask") for independence. I mean I dont' have a big problem with them leaving, if they truly want and are allowed to do so, but I feel like they need to look beyond their own passion. As you said, they don't have a guaranteed place in the EU but also many companies are leaving Catalonia and moving to other regions since they don't want to be restricted to Catalonia or pay extra taxes in order to make business in the rest of the country. Economically, Spain needs Catalonia (it makes a lot of money from tourism and local businesses) but most importantly Catalonia needs Spain. I hope all this works out and we end up in the best scenario possible.
Cheers mate!
I did a lot on school that was "put on my permanent record"... Absolutely none of it followed me into adulthood, and none of it kept me from getting accepted into college or getting a job. "Permanent records" are a joke.
Polygon writers don't play online? Best news I've heard all week!
I'll bet they're still trying to beat Doom (2016) on easy mode...
Haha "threat with a deadly mammal!" Should be made into a shirt!
As a young adult from Spain, from the Galicia region (One of the many regions of Spain called "Autonomous Communities", a pseudo-federal style of government but it's really centralist) I have to say that yes, the current Constitution that stems from 1978, "The State cannot be divided". Technically it's illegal to hold a secesionist referendum, we would have to change the old Constitution in order to allow that. This old Constitution was written in the aftermath of Franco's dictatorship, which was ended in a "peaceful" period of democratic transition. Being serious, that part of the Constitution was clearly tailored for the purpose of calming the pro-Franco fascists like the extreme Falange (The political party that controlled the state during Franco's dictatorship, far right) and Alianza Popular (The seed of the party right now in the government, Partido Popular). Those two political parties were the heirs of Franco's government and thus shared the same interests in a lot of fields. For example, one of the tenants of Franco's dictatorship was the phrase "Spain is one,big and free" (Ironic, isn't it, the last word?). So, the Referendum is illegal because of the Constitution, but I would like a reform to this archaic paper to be a more democratic country and legallize any kind of secesion referendums, like our neighbor country, Great Britain, had with Scotland. I'm not pro independence but I'm pro choice. That's what democracy should be really about.
TheNezharMC Let us remember that when the USA declared independence that act was also illegal under the laws of the time.
Hi Phil, thanks for talking about the Catalonian referendum, I actually didn't expect people from other countries to even know about this issue and you did it very well.
I’m from Spain, but not from Cataluña (Catalonia) so I’m constantly hearing arguments against the referendum from the people around me. Some of the main ones are things like "the legal procedure implies that all Spaniards should be allowed to vote in a referendum, since Catalonia is part of Spain and belongs to all Spaniards, not only Catalonians", "the referendum is illegal and it’s not being held by the government but by people that want a specific outcome; therefore, the results can’t be trusted" or "lots of Catalonians want to be Spaniards too (these people suffer great oppression there in Catalonia), those people won't vote because it's illegal and they respect the law; thus, their opinion doesn't count". And they also respond to the complains about taxes: “we pay taxes in relation to our benefits, so rich regions pay more than the poor ones in order to help them, it’s a fair and balanced system” and “the independence will deeply hurt both the Spanish and the Catalonian economy, so it doesn’t make sense, specially since the last one would most likely stop being part of the UE”. Finally, it is said that approximately half of Catalonians don’t agree with separatists and would be forced to live in a different country if the independence happened.
I have chosen to use quotes as I personally don’t stand on any side since I’m not very familiar with the catalonian nationalism or politics in general (I am 16) and I’m not able to have a well-formed opinion on it. I’m highly influenced by the opinions around me but I do think that the Spanish government should have handled this issue long ago, more peacefully and through a legal process based on dialogue and comprehension. Anyway, I hope this comment helped you understand a bit more and thanks again for talking about Spain.
Querida María,
Soy de Barcelona y tu comentario me ha parecido de lo más interesante que he leído. Me alegra mucho saber que eres crítica con lo que cuentan las noticias o la gente a tu alrededor y que eres consciente de que mayormente solo escuchas una narrativa.
Quería darte mi opinión, para que tengas algo con lo que comparar y creo que me servirá para desahogarme un rato.
Ahora mismo la situación en Catalunya me tiene completamente frustrada e indecisa. Yo quiero lo mejor para Catalunya, pase eso por la independencia o no. Puede sonar egocéntrico, pero hoy por hoy no siento que le deba nada a España y de eso voy a culpar al PP y Telecinco.
Coincido contigo con que no se habría llegado al follón de hoy en día si por ahí en el 2012, cuando hubo la 1ª gran manifestación por la independencia, que en mi opinión fue consecuencia de al menos dos cosas: los recortes y la sentencia del TC al Estatuto de Autonomía de Catalunya (2010) en el que básicamente después de 4 años de que se lo pensasen el TC declaraban inconstitucionales numerosas cosas que pedía Cataluña (esto es algo recurrente que siempre ha pasado, y continua pasando), no recuerdo exactamente que se pedía (yo tenía tu edad), pero si recuerdo que todo el mundo hablaba de tener un modelo de financiamiento como el del País Vasco y Navarra. No sé si lo conoces, se llama Régimen Foral y básicamente consiste en que la comunidad autónoma se recoge sus impuestos y después manda lo que toca al gobierno central en lugar de Hacienda recaude y después devuelva a las comunidades. Así que se deniega una cosa que ya existe en otras comunidades y causa mucha indignación. Pero como decía al principio del párrafo (me enrollado, lo siento) si al menos el gobierno hubiera hecho algo (lo del financiamiento) para apaciguar a la gente, creo que todo se habría quedado en nada.
Después de esto, tampoco quiero darte una clase de historia, pero básicamente, Mas convoca elecciones anticipadas por que hacer una consulta no estaba previsto en su hoja de ruta. Gana y hay el 9-N. Aquí creo que es verdad cuando se dice que se hizo política de la situación. Todo me pareció muy repentino e incongruente: hay una gran manifestación y se concluye que mucha gente quiere la independencia? ¿Y esto es motivo suficiente para convocar elecciones solo para hacer una consulta? En fin, por aquel entonces tampoco me tomaba lo de la independencia muy en serio, inocente de mi me parecía más una herramienta para expresar la indignación con el Gobierno y que cedieran en algo.
Después de esto es más o menos lo que debes de conocer: el gobierno catalán pidiendo hacer un referéndum, en Madrid negándose rotundamente, en Cataluña se pide diálogo, en Madrid se niegan (REPEAT una cuantas veces). Después Madrid habla de diálogo, pero que no negociará un referéndum, hace unos días de federalismo (que es algo que hace unos años Cat habría querido) pero Cataluña dice: HAHA ¿ahora? TOO LATE. Y lo que llaman el “choque de trenes”, aquí nadie baja del burro y no sé cómo se arregla el asunto.
En cuanto a la posible Independencia y el Referéndum del 1-Oct:
El Referéndum es ilegal, y te parecerá obvio, pero aquí hay quien todavía dice que es perfectamente legítimo, irónicamente los CUP son los que lo han llamado desobediencia desde el primer día. Y el referéndum es ilegal porque el Tribunal Constitucional lo ha dicho. Yo no tengo ni idea de derecho, pero por lo visto es anticonstitucional. Lo cual me parece lógico si consideras que tenemos una constitución de 1978 que se hizo justo después de 30 años de dictadura. Hizo su labor en un momento muy delicado para España pero han pasado muchos años y necesita reformas, muchas. García-Margallo (PP) lo decía el otro día en un programa (mi razonamiento: si lo dice hasta uno del PP debe ser verdad). Una de estas múltiples reformas podría ser dejar hacer un referéndum. La constitución no es inamovible y teniendo en cuenta que en Escocia, Quebec, se han hecho referéndums parecidos no me parece que estemos pidiendo barbaridades.
Y en cuanto a la Independencia de Cataluña te diré que lo que más reticencia me da es la incertidumbre de cómo sería una Cataluña independiente. Supongo que has escuchado todos los argumentos en contra: Cataluña tiene una deuda enorme con el FLA, no formaría parte de la Unión Europea, que pasa con las empresas, las pensiones, etc.
Por otro lado, aquí nos cuentan que sí sería posible y que no estaríamos endeudados por tanto tiempo. Con el dinero que no se quedaría España seríamos capaces de cubrir los nuevos gastos necesarios de instituciones (que imagino que no serían tantos ya que en Cataluña siempre ha estado todo por duplicado) y que aún habría dinero para ir cubriendo la deuda.
¿Es eso cierto o es un cuento chino? Pues no tengo ni idea, me inclino por pensar que debe haber algo de verdad pero no me lo trago todo.
Mientras tanto no se si te has enterado pero el Gobierno ha mandado a un montón de Policía del resto del país y los tiene alojados en cruceros de vacaciones en el puerto de Barcelona porque nadie los quería hospedar HAHAHA. Parece el inicio de un chiste: ¿Qué hacen 7.000 guardias civiles en un crucero de vacaciones amarrado en Barcelona? -Esperar al 1-Oct a ver si alguien sale a votar. :D
Laura Campderà Muchas gracias por pararte a leer mi comentario y por ayudarme a ver la otra cara de la moneda.
La verdad es que me ha resultado más útil de lo que pensaba, supongo que porque algunas cosas en tu comentario me resultan nuevas dado que no he estado al tanto de lo que pasaba en Cataluña durante los últimos años. Ahora entiendo un poco mejor los motivos que llevan a querer declarar la independencia, y que el hecho de que se haya estado impidiendo por la vía legal solo acentúa este deseo. La obstrucción de la democracia nunca es la mejor opción, y esta vez claramente ha hecho todo se nos vaya de las manos. Al final, lo único que nos queda es esperar a ver cómo se desarrollan los acontecimientos de aquí al 1 de Octubre y ver qué ocurre después. Pero gracias a tu comentario ahora tengo mucho más contexto y no me siento tan perdida en todo este asunto. Has conseguido arrojar un poco de luz, pues solo tenía de referencia las opiniones de mi familia y amigos cercanos, quienes difieren claramente con los separatistas. Supongo que no todo es blanco y negro, y que cada uno tiene parte de razón en sus argumentos.
Muchas gracias de nuevo por todo y ya veremos que acaba ocurriendo. 😊
Phil! this is so great that you covered the Catalan story! I've been following you for some years now, and to hear you talking about us and where we live and the injustice arround it all makes me so happy. The situation is far more complicated than anything you could read about. I'm catalan and I had never been much of a nationalist, not spanish nor catalan. But central government ignoring us, after no repercusion for all the atrocities commited by Franco during his dictatorship and the fact that most of the politicians in Madrid are grandsons of those who ruled next to Franco, made me and many others consider voting yes. We are constantly ignored, belittled and straight up robbed of our money. The situation is complicated also because some catalans don't want to stop being a part of Spain, but after what happened on Wednesday, many people who were not going to vote have now made their minds up and will vote on the first of october. Also, look up the way everything is moving, vote ballots and electoral places, it's very interesting. So I hope people understand that all we want to do is VOTE and that we've been draged in to this situation (also, if you research a little into the Partido Popular government its FULL of corruption).
Thanks for this Phil!
Maria BB well the dictatorship ended more than 45 years ago, what is the central government supposed to do about that? Is it their fault? No. Are they corrupted? Yes, but so are the people trying to divide Spain. You can't just go and throw away the constitution, that's not how law works, that's not how politics should work. Do you really want independence? Do you want to be pulled from the UE? I really feel like this is some kind of vendetta for something that happened a long time ago... I don't mean any offense, I just don't get it, I feel that Catalonia is an important part of Spain, at some point we should leave the past go, and move forward
Well, first off, it ended 42 years ago, and yes it's their fault, not directly the dictatorship, but all the corpses (of murdered people, both sides, but especially republicans) that are still unburied and for expelling the only judge who was investigating. So is that the government's fault? yes. Is the Catalan government corrupt? no, the previous one was, and no one can deny now, but what you have now is a coalition of different people from very different ideologies, (maybe listen to Philip a little too). And even if it was, there's no comparing one with the other, the Partido Popular has more than 60 cases of corruption in their party and ARE STILL IN POWER. That should prove the kind of party they are. No one is trying to divide Spain, we just wanted better treatment like other regions have (like the Basc), but since more than 25 years have gone by without any consensus between the central government and our autonomic government, we decided to try another route. One that has scared the central government and who now is STRAIGHT UP violating democratic rights. Barbara, we only want to vote. And I know you don't get it and mean no offense, I mean none to you either, but please, we cannot forget what this country (Spain) has gone through, and the constitution is OLD AS FUCK, and the PP has changed it without blinking an eye. So please, inform yourself a little, and don't use that cheap political language. This is two opinions clearly opposed to the problem.
Maria BB where are they violating democratic rights? They're doing their job! You can't just let people do whatever they want just because they want so, are they corrupt? Yes of course! No one is denying that! But what solution do you propose? Let the PSOE rule again? Another corrupted party? Sure, lets do it! It did not go well last time, it won't go well this time either. What do we do? Let Iglesias and his stupid communist party govern? People voted the PP, it is what it is, what do you want a coup d'état?Well yeah the constitution is old AF, but Catalonia is still Spain, even if we write it all again, it will still be a problem. Because Catalonia was never, ever an independent state, not even 400 years ago. Why would it start being independent now? What rights do you feel entitled to that other Spanish people shouldn't have? And don't you dare say that they don't want to divide Spain! That's all they want! We (the rest of the Spanish people) are robbing Catalonia according to them! Like, how? Where? Why? It's just insanity, these protests are going way too far, people aggressing guardias civiles because they're doing their job!! They should be ashamed. I'm not saying all people are doing it, and I'm not saying all independentistas are crazy people who just want to throw our country in the garbage. But there are some people that are saying that the central government is a dictatorship, that we are robbing them, that all their problems are because they can't vote that referendum.
And it is even worst. The Partido Popular is invoking they dutty on trying to defend the constitution, but...
1-They are constantly violating it by letting Banks evict people, therefore violating one of the most fundamental contitutional right, the right to have a decent housing. And several others. Today an article was talking up to 23 of the Contitutional laws being systematicly violated. Yed, they got their mouth full talking about defending the Constitution.
2-They have changed the Contitution numerous times in the middle of August, at night and with malice aforethought. And why, you may ask? Because in August people is on vacation, most politicians are aswell, and people can't protest in the same way they could, lets say, on September 1st. The changes have been heavily protested anyway, but it's a fact they like to ignore the people chanting on the streets (See protest against the war a few years back)
3-They are accusing the Catalan goberment of missusing of the Public Funds by paying the Referendum with the money of all of us. How many times have the goberment spent in with the three big fucking boats they have fleet in the port of Barcelona? Or all the policeman from all over spain staying for a month? And if that is not enought, but should be, how MANY MILLIONS found in Switzerland on the name of the Barcenas, or how many millions wasted in Valencia? Or in the waters of Madrid (aka Canal Panama). And are they in jail? Nope, they have been having a beatiful vacations at our expenses. Why? Because the goverment decides de judges, and the judges do what they are told to do.
I'm just gonna say one thing about the central goberment in Spain. The hypocrisy is strong in this one.
Inform yourself. To suspend a territory's autonomy is violating democratic rights and one of the prime fundamentals in Europe. Catalunya was an independent state (read a book not just only listen to la COPE or whatever). No one said the spanish people are robbing, it's your government. If what you want to do is sing the spanish anthem and go to see some bulls getting killed while shooting inmigrants in the south of spain's border to marroco, be my guest. We do not feel identified with the central government and let me remind you that a couple of years ago, the spanish government tried to forbid catalan from schools. Sound familiar? ofcourse. I'd like you to visit catalonia and just think for yourself for once. I love Spanish people and this is sad, but your government doesn't listen. WE JUST WANT TO VOTE
People will get mad at anything and everything...
The Unamed Channel that panda is thiccccc
"Mad"? Thats throwing people together
You dont know how strongly "People" feel emotionally about everything
But i guess you are just mad that people care!
JJTheWiser hell yea
JJTheWiser haha JJ the “wiser” I’m not trying to label everyone, I’m just saying that people like you will get sour about the smallest of things. Good job this reply just put you in the people group that I was talking about in my comment.
I get mad if I drop a Cheeto on the ground when I'm eating a bag, and I'll also get mad in someone breaks into my house, rapes me and my dog, Oliver, ties us up and burns the house down.
"Anything and everything" is entirely too broad to make any kind of reasonable point. Maybe saying the "littlest thing" would perfectly paint the picture you're trying to express.
Spanish young woman born and raised in spain here:
1) Yes, Catalonia has always been very vocal about its uniqueness: language, customs, booming economy. And they are so very rich culturally, yes. But, there's an enormous big BUT. Their region, so economically powerfull, has been plagued for 40+ decades with political leeches. Pretty early after the stablishment of our democracy after the fascist dictatorship that Franco governed, the government of catalonia was clawed deep and good by one Jordi Pujol i Soley. To sum thing up, he was president of the Generalitat for 23 years, got married to Marta Ferrusola, and nicely and neatly put all of their seven children into government positions once they were grown up. So, the family known as de Pujol Ferrusola, are being accused and going into court for several charges, every single one of them related to or having to do with their political power.
They are knee deep into hidden fortunes (not declared and therefore not taxed), undue and illegal commissions because they were not made by public contest and just assigned to the highest bidder that could pay their prices, and money laundering through his government (the patriarc, Jordi Pujol). Just to name a few things. There are more.
Once the Justice Administration and the prosecution started unraveling, they discovered that Carles Puigdemont (Jordi Pujol's succesor) is aswell being investigated bc of a strong trace of his acts into the Pujol Ferrusola's scheemes and crimes. And with him, most of the big political faces of Catalonia.
SO: that's just a very, very glossed over resumé, but with the 1-O referendum they are obscuring all the news about the court's proceedings and developments, and how the central government is just giving for lost all the millions that were taken/stolen, and so on. They are pumping it up and feeding it to the press, just so they aren't able to report on every single scandal.
2) Catalonia's politicians are NOT following the constitution nor the constitutionally stablished process to petition for a Referendum, nor abbiding the Courts' order of not doing the 1-O (that *does not* forbide them of actually call in a Referendum).
3) Catalonia is NOT wealthy enough to substain the minimum social services, and it's demanding payment for them. As in, they want independence, but do not want to pay retirements, social security, public health services, and so on, for X years to come.
3.5) Also, Basque Country's privileges are a studied exception with the tax benefits and special laws. In the Spanish Constitution was recognised the 'Derechos Forales' or foral rights, remnants of medieval ages and special concessions made between 700+ to 1.000+ years ago, that are a (controversial) legacy. They are exclusive of their autonomous community (and not provinces, there's a difference) and cannot be conceeded to another one without a heavy, heavy political process and legal action. They are mostly about unimportant things, but, yes. Basque Country is pretty lucky with their money and taxes, yes.
4) The central government is as badly corrupted as the Catalonian government if not even more, and BOTH are benefiting from pulling the wool over the population with petty little civil disputes born from ignorance and fed with half lies and half distractional tactics so they can safely play into the fear factor to keep being voted to be the ones with the power. BOTH. It's just a fact that every single one of the big politicians of this country are thieves. Proven by courts, or currently being proven by the prosecution, depending on every particular case.
4.5) There are extremists in every faction here, and they are making as much noise as they can. That does not mean that they are the majority.
5) EU's law is clear about this: Catalonia would not be inmediatly into the EU and would have to pass the process.
Anyhow, excuse any mistake and I'm sorry if you read it all. It's just all smoke and mirrors over here, in my personal opinion. Nothing will happen except repressional actions from the central government that will make everything worse, and then they'll continue to be as they are: shameless thieves put in power by people being tricked to be scared of 'the other ones'.
so Spain would be better off without them?
Damn, I guess we really are the sons Spain.
Animo y suerte en los próximos días.
Rob Knight. I couldn't really say for sure. The corruption on both sides is too deep to try and assess the possible outcomes with any degree of neutrality, bc in the end, it will end up being whatever the corrupt governments want, whatever that may be. In my opinion they want distracting news and civil disagreements that could become (and are becoming) somewhat violent until they can brush their dirty laundry under the carpet *again*.
Felix Peels There is a whole lot of politics and tactical movements from powerful families underneath it all and it's just insane how far in the past things go. Some of the politicians arrested were out of warrants made specifically for the 1-O situation, since they acted against the high court's decission... And some of the arrests were bc of the previous corruption cases pre-dating the referendum. You would be awed at the sheer quantity of open cases and even summary procedures that there are. If it were up to me, personally, I'd call a Referendum for the whole nation and see what everybody thinks, not just Catalonia, about whether Catalonia is or is not part of Spain. And then, try to work it out democratically and within the legal channels. No need to bloody up our streets again, the Spanish Civil War' effects are still latent on the country.
I love the point you mentioned about the kid. Educate don't punish. So then the kid will understand what is wrong with what he did. If he's punished he'll never learn
Open voice chat has always been cancer, mute and move on.
New Zero usually i only have to mute about 5% of people in public matches
How to stop Catalonia Independence: threaten to remove Barcelona FC from the Spanish league
ANIK oh plz man don't do it
The whole world will hate if u removed fc barca from la_liga
They wouldn't dare. Barcelona brings too much money to La Liga. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot.
Too true, too true
If Cataluña gets their independence Barça would not be able to play in La Liga, no need to threaten, it's in the rules of the competition, no teams outside of Spain can play there.
And the "new country" would have to apply for EU membership...which would take some time...
As a Quebecker, the fact that Madrid doesn't allow them to even hold a referendum is scary. I believe that it was Wodrow Wilson who said that every nation should be allowed to rule themselves. Trying to go against a referendum is anti-democratic and kinda hints that Spain isn't totaly out of the Franco era.
Well... Put simply, there was a due process to hold a referendum. The central goverment said "we have bigger fish to fry, that referendum is a waste of money, help us do the rest first", then the PP (Partido Popular, a branch off of a branch off of the fake political party of the dictator Francisco Franco) stoked the flames by saying no (they were majority at the time, nearly 7 years ago), so Catalunya did a referendum (that used public funding) without the main goverment's permission (which, if you're going to do with public money that the main goverment gives you for other things, you kinda need)...
And it has been done several times to varying degrees of success, with the main goverment's denial of it (PP still has majority votes thanks to alliances with other parties), and gained traction because they've been told so many times.
Spain is out of the Franco Era. In a pretty major way... Otherwise Madrid would probably be doing a lot better in general - not to mention FBC would be less popular (Franco was so keen on the FBC losing to his favourite Madrid team that he actually sent a representative to tell them off for winning the first game.... No joke)
What Spain is... It's back in a Parliamental Monarchy - ie, they're following a constitution that's focused on the Monarchy not losing any more power.
The referendum itself is somewhat anti-democratic, seeing as it doesn't follow the spirit of all being equal.
If you live here, and you don't have a spaniard DNI with the patronage of Catalonia (ie, if you're not spaniard Catalonian) you won't get mail telling you to vote... in the referendum... The connotations of that aside, the referendum only requires 30% of the population and is relying on absolute majority, ie. 51% of 30% - meaning that if only 15% vote for independence, everyone is independent.
There is the argument that "if you don't want it, vote no" - but in spite of the main goverment's sh***y attitude, they are right to say it's unconstitutional (see Parliamental Monarchy), so they're most likely sh***ing their pants in front of the possibility of losing their jobs and any kind of leverage (ie, probably not gonna get help with any embezzling and might get prosecuted for being anti-constitutional themselves, even in the name of democracy)
The political state as of now can really be defined by fear, confusion, and greed.
It's a crying shame.
Well said.
Please tell me you're not one of those "Vive le Québec Libre!" types :P
+Greycobalt "Oh no, someone doesn't share the same opinion as me"
Bob bob :P :P :P :P :P colonp colonp colonp colonp colonp COLONP COLONP COLONP COLONP COLONP COLONP COLONP
I tried out the Equifax Security website using Smith, 123456 and it said "Your information may have been compromised"... Its a broken useless website.
Awesome to learn about an international story! More, please!
Wait.. what? I always thought the "permanent record" thing was a made-up threat to frighten and motivate the goody kids into perfect behavior. It doesn't scare the rebels because they dgaf about any records lol
Raychel Jarvis I know right. And a 5 year old even getting a "record" at all is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard
I don't know about other states but it affects highschool, the best want "smart ,good" kids not ones that been suspended or anything similar
shadowwolfgem s I've been suspended 3-4 times, and got in a few fights, even leaving deep bite marks in a person's arm as a kid, and they threw me in advanced/highest-tier classes just because I aced tests. Your record really doesn't mean shit, your GPA does, cause that's determining what college will take your cash.
"Hey Leeah come in to work 2 hours early today. "
I can't there's a hippo over there
leeah galaxies There's a pretty big chance that my work might try to call me in on my day off tomorrow. I think I'll try the hippo excuse to get out of it
As someone who suffered through a public education in central California, I’m sad to say this type of asinine lack of common sense among the school administration is widespread. It’s also disheartening to have the old adage “those who can, do; those who can’t, teach” so thoroughly proven. It makes it so much harder for those shining educators who are actually GOOD to do their jobs without hanging their heads in sorrow.
Phil... You have 6 pillows on your couch. Each respectively have just over 20 triangles per pillow, so that means If we multiply 6 by just over 20, and let's see.. Carry the one, um, well uh... Sir you have 129.5 completed triangles on your pillow total. Not sure why I think like this, but check... I'm sure you'll see I am correct. Have a nice day
Wow......just wow.
3BricksHigher genius
**X Files theme plays**
3BricksHigher 😂😂😂
The couch is lovely but could live with a few less triangles.
Look, me and my husband have played WoW for over 10 years. It's a haven for trolling and hate speech. I don't blame the game at all for this; they can't weed out all the baddies. It's up to me, as a player, to utilize the tools they supply me with; the mute button, the block button, or the report button. These online games have "age restrictions" for a reason. YES, there are complete assholes and racists online playing video games. You can only filter out these douchebags so much; report, block, and move on and enjoy your gaming experience. Replying to them only fuels their fire. The internet will never be a "safe space" for anyone, it's just too large of a task for any company to completely filter.
Niki Nak I think one thing that could actually help is notifying people when a report actually has an effect. I'm sure most people don't even bother to report because they think it won't do anything
Lol, WoW no haven for any kind of speech/writing. The games so well designed people don't socialize and they just follow the dot on the map :S Trade chat is a ghost town and my server is medium population
Niki Nak no such thing as hate speech
Really? All my servers general chat is Kanye West and Gul'Dan puns. I haven't seen any offensive people in WoW for like 5 years.
Last I played WoW trade chat was filled with nothing but "anal [Rip]" or "anal [Rupture]" something along those lines.....
I think that the kid should be taught why what he said wasn't right. He's a kid, kids are still learning and putting something on his permanent record for saying there is a bomb in his backpack is wrong. He didn't even say that he was gonna blow everyone up or that he was gonna hurt people.
Yeah, all they needed to do was call the kids parents and figure out how they would express the current sensitivity of that subject to him. I don't think it warrants discipline of any kind, to be honest. Kid's five, there was no intent beyond play and imagination.
I love your take on Equifax fiasco. 😂 It's exactly how I feel. So much so I feel like I'm hearing my thoughts out loud
It's kindergarten. No one is gonna look that far back when it matters most.
Phil looks like a floating head with moving arms 😂😂😂
Anthony he is.
It IS possible to play online games frequently and not become toxic. I have never 'slipped up' and used a slur, racial or otherwise, despite having played online games for over a decade. Yes, I get annoyed with people and may stop healing someone if they're being an ass but I won't scream, yell or call them a slur word.
thank you. any raging i do is internal, because in no way will it help the team play any better, and i've never understood why people spend their energy cursing instead of focussing on the game. i've been playing online games for about 8 years now
If there were more online players like you I might actually play something other than private matches. I'll never understand how people can get so aggressive over something that's meant to be fun. It's like everyone's forgotten the point of video games these days -_-
Epic Walrus Youre right, if more people were like him, youd hate playing with people who try to lose. If you arent competitive, then play norms. If you play norms expect people who arent trying to win simple.
I might get a little pissed if I lose or something goes wrong, but I say "damn it," "how did he kill me but I didn't kill him," "no, fuck you," but I don't raise my voice much above speaking volume, I don't say it when I can be heard by the person I'm annoyed/angry at, and I don't use slurs ever. It doesn't matter if Pewds is actually a racist or not, it was wrong. What's more, it doesn't help gamers look like reasonable people either.
what an interesting piece on spain and catlonia. I am so glad we are getting back ot actual news!!
It is impossible to moderate everything everyone types or says online. You honestly just have to deal with it or ignore it.
If everybody was yelling "He's deaf!" then it shoudn't have been hard to hear because they were yelling the same thing. But then again, I wasn't there.
This story just breaks my heart.
But they're not a bunch of fans yelling lyrics in perfect sync at a concert. It would be a bunch of different people screaming random shit all at the same time. When u have tunnel vision, all the noise is blurred into random cacophony. The adrenaline release process literally cuts off your vision and hearing severely.
No, it's parents. Parents need to watch and control what their kids are doing online. If I had a kid and I caught him using those kinds of slurs, he wouldn't be playing again for a long time.
Isangelous Every single kid talks like this now...
Wolf Written sir, your child said the b word at school today and we want to know where he got that word from?
"It was the purple ball that talks to me at night"
True but that still doesnt stop people 18+ (pewds) from doing it
When they took my backpack when I was 5, I freaked out. My mother had left her husband and took 3 kids across the country to a new place with nothing but the clothes we had on and a few bags. That backpack was more than just a toy or a thing to me, it was one of the only things I felt was reliable, was gonna be there tomorrow. Just felt like sharing.