For me I think I do a pretty good job keeping my place clean when I first move in but after the new feel wears off it can start to get junky. Like we’re not nasty people I think it’s mostly just junk every and things out of place. I think part of it is having low feeling function too. Feelers also care about living environments and comfort but of course it’s different than like an si user. I think a way to fix this is for the ISTP to have friends come over once a week just to motivate them to keep their place clean because we don’t want to make a bad impression. I personally do a lot of dating so in my first apartment I would have girls or whatever come over and that would motivate me to keep it clean and it worked because they always said my place was clean.
@@CSJoseph I guess that’s good too just takes more effort. Like you said we’ll just be working on things through the day and just be putting things in random places. Funny thing is we probably know where everything is and it might even not look so bad to us for that reason sometimes but to others it looks like a mess
@monikap8777 married 10 years now. Mbti has helped me a lot with navigating sensitive types, and she makes me a better person by challenging my weakest areas and vise versa. She let's me "be me" and doesn't try to change or mold me like girlfriends in the past would do, and I also like that a lot about her
@@monikap8777 I´m ESFJ married to ISTP man, relationship is awesome❤🔥 we hardly ever fight and in the bedroom it´s even better than all of the ISFP men that i dated before. For us the main problems are\were my tendency to get into new projects and expect him to help me finishing them, and his tendency to clutter the house with his scrap metal and wood and not let me tidy or throw it out, also when we moved in together we had a rough year because he wanted "alone time" while i thought i was rejected ISTP´s are far less emotional than SFP´s and this side is lacking for me, but on the other hand life is without useless drama so it´s a fair trade
I literally have the same family loop of istp, intp, and isfj. Me being istp. Our mom gets pissed off when me and my brother don’t clean our rooms and we’re like “eh, we don’t care” and for the record my intp brother is way messier than me lol. I be getting gas masks before entering his room 😭.
I also have younger istp brother and isfj mother, me being an intp haha! And yep, he is even messier than me. I stopped being messy at around 23 years old when I moved out and was able to put everything in my apartment where i like it to be. Now it's much easier for me to put things in their place. I still leave my clothes on my chair and clean floors once a month, but if its visibly very dirty, it actually will bother me (earlier it wouldn't).
ISTP f, 21 I had a hard time staying clean as a child/teen but most of the time when I did clean after my self I did it because I knew this would cheer up my mom. However I didn`t consider my self a messy person in general so my sister (4 years younger, ESFP) being always shocked as she saw me cleaning was pretty much confusing XD. If the place is livable then that was fine to me. I also really liked boxes of all kinds of sizes because you could simply throw everything in them and if you feel inspired, you could have them on cathegories. Nothing is lost, place is clean. Being quite an adult now, I keep reorganising my room and stuff at college like once a week and after that I try to keep it together until is all messy again (Idk how it`s happening :)) ). Now here`s a trick I remember to use when I was a child (up to 14-15 y.o.): my parents (INTP f, ISTP m) would leave for work in the morning or in the noon and would expect us to do a little cleaning around the house (like dishes, vacuuming, dusting with wet napkings here and there and picking our toys/books). They would also leave me and my sister (as I have mentioned - ESFP, 4 years younger) a chocolate to share together after the work is done. Being the oldest I was kind in a position of power so I told my sister that the more cleaning she does the more chocolate she gets, even from my part. I wasn`t so much into candies but my sister loved them to death, lol. I was always doing the easiest or more convinient stuff (I never enjoyed to do the dishes, but I liked using the vacuum cleaner). My sister would usually end up doing like 70-80% of the whole cleaning but I would take credit for 50%. When we didn`t have a chocolate to share I would always make sure in advance that I would save some to bribe my sister. A piece was enough if it was her favorite. I would have also bribed her into telling mom I did homework and studied. This went on for many years. My sister was an underpaid slave without even realising because I knew how to use my words. We all laugh to this today about it.
How was your parents marriage? Are they a good pair? What are their jobs? Are they good as parents, especially the intp as mother? Because the intp and istp both have Fe as their fourth function and it seems to me its the most important function to be a good parent,to help children develop properly. How old they were when they got married and got you? Sorry if tgese questions are too personal. I am an intp female who likes an istp guy, but I am terrified we both would be terrible parents.
Oh wow this is exactly my husband, just that even telling him all that only makes him start tidying up and then he notices this project that he left a few years ago and forgets about tidying😩 our son swallowed a screw when he was a baby, and only then he stopped leaving scraps and tools on the floor 😤
My ISTP is quite clean and neat. He gets an urge to clean something then moves on to something else and chips away at multiple projects verry slowly. I'm a starter type so I'm no better than him in this regard. We have the same admitting and failing. Lol that example of danger is how I approach him as an ENFP - in a playful exaggerated way (appealing to his care for the wellbeing of myself and daughter) which he smiles at and accommodates, or sets a boundary like "daughter must be supervised when in here". Being an example - yes that's something he cares about. :)
Maybe this is more of a male/female split for ISTP, but I actually feel like I keep a fairly tidy house. I do clean in big spurts unlike my isfj/istj friends that are continually cleaning. But mess stresses me out, maybe because I was also raised by an isfj? I definitely feel a constant judgement feeling in my mind when there is a mess, "what if someone sees this?" That motivates me daily. I am 1000 times tidier than my esfj cousin!
I was a messy hoarder when I was younger, collecting computers and guitars, up until around age 22. I am a neat freak minimalist now. I think it all changed because I own a home now, my home is a project that I love improving and making more efficient.
the self-neglect from istps is real. it's like he wants to hit rock bottom or something!! i try to give him lots of possibilities to not meet the terrible fate that awaits him by doing things his way, but it's gotta be HIS idea in order for him to feel good with the decisions he's making. some of my ideas stick, some don't :( with all his complaining i just wanna save him and tell him what he CAN do haha but it's best to let him just do his thing in the end. with enfjs they are much more open to my ne suggestions and talking about it, they crave it even lol. well, at least they let me believe they're hearing out my suggestions haha but of course they will do things their own way eventually too lmao. im chill with that tho. we help one another. they do the narrowing down, I do the "you can do this, this, or this."
P.s. as a stay at home mother of 2 boys and a partner of an infp… my house is cleaned on the daily and there are still areas I am improving and working to put on the “cleaning schedule” but the self care has to be balanced in their first so that the cleaning isn’t off setting personal responsibility. So, to all of you Istp’s… one day and one step at a time! You will get there because you’re worth it and a hard working mofo!
My ISTP son can be so rude but is so hilarious with his dry sense of humor. ISFP mom just asked if he wanted to get dressed up and go see a symphony orchestra. His response “I don’t give a crap about that.”
very true. my room is a total mess. i only clean communal areas.. cuz i like seeing everything laid out.. im not intentionally messy i just get distracted.. but i need to deep clean it. it's bothering my Si 😂
I wanna say this relates to all njs/stps (though I can say estps can be cleaner for some reason?) except sfps lol they seem more organized. I saw a video uploaded by a streamer who's a infj my god no no and no. Ntjs are a bit cleaner but they can have clutter. I feel for the si users and (Xsfjs).
Lol, i reckon this is high Se in general, i'm ISFP and i'm just as messy. That being said, i've seen some ISTP's be really unclean. Like they have their work clothes and shoes in the sleeping room near the bed, i'm like wtf, even i'm not that dirty. 😂
This makes me wonder, what types would it be that would keep the main areas clean or at least presentable for public opinion while keeping their personal space beyond that completely neglected and unpresentable? Meaning, they care enough to do it for the perception of others, but not for the own intimate experience, where they’re all too ready to be wallow in filth?
(Tldr: wayfarers: esfp, isfp, entj, intj probably) Sounds like Te + Se to me, but im Te + Si and sometimes I do this too. The Te is the primary reason, Si usually is concerned with the discomfort that disorder brings but can also be prone to being lazy 😅
my mom always tolf me as a kid "if i dont give you a set time to finish cleaning your room, youll be there til the second coming.." 😂 i would get distracted by all the things.. pretty sure my mother is an esfj..
I'll have you know I just told my dad he was going to drop his food on the floor. He said no it won't and made some insufferable joke about the 3 second rule, as he dropped a squid ball on the floor. I could not stop him from picking it up and eating it. I also saw this video right after criticising him about letting his specifically oversized bin get over filled again the other day. I absolutely do get random dirty handprints all over the house, I tell him to clean his hands all the time. The scrap hoarding has been a journey that's a lot better but half his room is still full of tools. This is like my life lmao. He's beaten up his body a lot over his life so I'm his carer and live with him. The amount of times I say I told you so this is why you should listen to me XD also I'm glad he knows I love him and respect him and stuff or I don't think he'd like it very much lol. There's still a lot I don't know about types but I think it's pretty interesting that I'm pretty sure my dad's an ISTP, and I'm an INFP, and my mums and ENFP.
WOW. You hit the nail in the head with this one. My mom is currently with an ISTP and they have a 2 year old daughter and it’s been tough for me. This guy is EXTREMELY messy-clothes all over the floor, food left everywhere; he doesn’t even wash a plate. The child once had one of his knives in her possession and my mom went bonkers on him about it. Where’s the knife now? His best friend owns it haha. He also swings her around in a playful way only to stop when my mom becomes upset because she is aware of the consequences. Grown-ass man who doesn’t do much, yet my mom is still with him. Not to mention that he gets super rage-y when confronted, breaking the child’s toys and slamming doors. I know You (Chase) suggest that ISTPs and INFPs get into relationships, but after living with this guy… this experience may inhibit me from getting into a relationship with one (my god). Yes, I am messy, but I’ve matured and am more consistent with maintaining a clean environment, though mostly because my mom is always on my behind about it. Jesus tho; I don’t know about that one. Great video by the way.
Don’t want to take all away from the guy tho. I’ll say, he’s great at mechanics-he IS an ISTP after all-and he gets things done when he has to and springs into action quick.
My household is a very interesting mix. We have INTP mom, ISTP oldest sister (me), INFP brother, and INTP youngest sister. If you know these MBTIs oh man you can guess it! We have our ups and downs but as an ISTP I do feel like I am the most initiating person and it have taken me very long to learn how to get my family to do house chores! Thankfully I have enough sense of covert contract and making it pretty explicit what I want for them to help me. But my family drives me bunkers many time because they do not tell me things I wish I knew and we are one of the most lazy or hard to motivate ppl to do tasks. Thank you Joseph for always making these videos so I could understand better! Also, I will clean my room, I am motivated now lol.
Shouldnt STPs become clean types by default due to their high Se? STPs in my life care a lot about their surroundings. Like any sight of mess really hurts their eyes. They even discipline me to become clean myself. I learn more from them than my SJ family.
I am an istp, and it is true that I do not clean my room, I think that it is not important, I think that there are more important things, and it is also true that I do nothing for my benefit and well-being
How do I buy the " how to socially engineer istps" thing so I can learn a little more about myself? Ps. Idk if that's what it's called, but I remembered something about there being a bundle for all 16 types being sold.
the istp i'm friends with has the messiest room and car ever. im infp and i used to be hella messy too (can't see the floor or surfaces type of messy) as well so i understand, but his was on another level. like collect huge mountains of hair on the shower floor levels of gross. he's super lazy, but didn't see it being a priority so he kept the messes growing. whenever i'd come over, I'd clean the shit out of his place so surfaces can be seen again cuz he'd cook dinner for us and it was super inconvenient due to 0 countertop space. however, if he planned to do this chore or that (or really anything, not just chores) he WOULD get it done. it satisfied his Ni a lot to see his plans come to life. if he says he's gonna do it, he's going to. he likes things his way. ni tert entitlement amirite? as infp tho it's super valuable to have around someone that means what they say. it hurts sometimes but with time I appreciate it because I struggle with seeing things for what it just is at times. it takes time for me to take off my personal reaction to his words, but I get there eventually. recently he tidies up the place before i come over. yay! i almost found it weird lol
Lol, “dirty people.” My own space is messy as hell. I do clean it once in a while, but it gets messy so fast. I want to be a minimalist, but I can’t let go of a lot of my things, cause I might need it. When I live with someone, I try to keep the common areas very clean to be respectful, but also, I want the other people to respect me too and clean up their shit.
Interestingly, I am marrying an ISTP (I am an ESTJ also) and he is a neat freak. We work very well together in that sense. Now, my ISTP brother had such a messy room when we were growing up. I would go and organize his room!
My dad called me a tornado growing up. My organized mess was also a factor of my divorce several years ago. I need to clean my house right now but I want to relax a little first. You made good points and especially at work I stop and think how my ways reflect on me & it helps me be a clearer organized person. And I do feel better when things are in there place but the next day its messy again!!
Where’s the how to change your type vid, or how to cope with the existential crisis of being a shitty type Maybe I’ll just have to be reincarnated or see what’s on the other side
ISTP Female here, we get distracted, definitely. My hack…minimalism! The less I have…the less there is to clean.
The amount of times I have legitimately almost died from work boots left in the middle of rooms and hallways 💀
ISTP f, 21
I was one of those killers too XD
ISTP here. Got inspired to clear clutter off my desk while watching this. Thanks! Oh! A squirrel! Gotta go!
For me I think I do a pretty good job keeping my place clean when I first move in but after the new feel wears off it can start to get junky. Like we’re not nasty people I think it’s mostly just junk every and things out of place. I think part of it is having low feeling function too. Feelers also care about living environments and comfort but of course it’s different than like an si user. I think a way to fix this is for the ISTP to have friends come over once a week just to motivate them to keep their place clean because we don’t want to make a bad impression. I personally do a lot of dating so in my first apartment I would have girls or whatever come over and that would motivate me to keep it clean and it worked because they always said my place was clean.
Why not just do it for the sake of doing it? Builds healthy Si critic habits
@@CSJoseph I guess that’s good too just takes more effort. Like you said we’ll just be working on things through the day and just be putting things in random places. Funny thing is we probably know where everything is and it might even not look so bad to us for that reason sometimes but to others it looks like a mess
Here's some irony...I'm ISTP guy married to a ESFJ girl and I'm the "clean one".
I was seeing an ESFJ woman last year and I had a similar experience as an ISTP.
How is your relationship going? Istp and esfj should be a great match!
@monikap8777 married 10 years now. Mbti has helped me a lot with navigating sensitive types, and she makes me a better person by challenging my weakest areas and vise versa. She let's me "be me" and doesn't try to change or mold me like girlfriends in the past would do, and I also like that a lot about her
@@monikap8777 I´m ESFJ married to ISTP man, relationship is awesome❤🔥 we hardly ever fight and in the bedroom it´s even better than all of the ISFP men that i dated before.
For us the main problems are\were my tendency to get into new projects and expect him to help me finishing them, and his tendency to clutter the house with his scrap metal and wood and not let me tidy or throw it out, also when we moved in together we had a rough year because he wanted "alone time" while i thought i was rejected
ISTP´s are far less emotional than SFP´s and this side is lacking for me, but on the other hand life is without useless drama so it´s a fair trade
My brother is an ISTP and I can already relate a minute in ;-; I'm an INTP and even I'M not that messy. It drives my ISFJ mom crazy.
I literally have the same family loop of istp, intp, and isfj. Me being istp. Our mom gets pissed off when me and my brother don’t clean our rooms and we’re like “eh, we don’t care” and for the record my intp brother is way messier than me lol. I be getting gas masks before entering his room 😭.
Wait.... i'm also an INTP, with an ISTP brother and an ISFJ..... mother 👀👀
Me and my mom lol
But my intp friend was way more messy than me
I also have younger istp brother and isfj mother, me being an intp haha! And yep, he is even messier than me. I stopped being messy at around 23 years old when I moved out and was able to put everything in my apartment where i like it to be. Now it's much easier for me to put things in their place. I still leave my clothes on my chair and clean floors once a month, but if its visibly very dirty, it actually will bother me (earlier it wouldn't).
ISTP f, 21
I had a hard time staying clean as a child/teen but most of the time when I did clean after my self I did it because I knew this would cheer up my mom. However I didn`t consider my self a messy person in general so my sister (4 years younger, ESFP) being always shocked as she saw me cleaning was pretty much confusing XD. If the place is livable then that was fine to me. I also really liked boxes of all kinds of sizes because you could simply throw everything in them and if you feel inspired, you could have them on cathegories. Nothing is lost, place is clean.
Being quite an adult now, I keep reorganising my room and stuff at college like once a week and after that I try to keep it together until is all messy again (Idk how it`s happening :)) ).
Now here`s a trick I remember to use when I was a child (up to 14-15 y.o.): my parents (INTP f, ISTP m) would leave for work in the morning or in the noon and would expect us to do a little cleaning around the house (like dishes, vacuuming, dusting with wet napkings here and there and picking our toys/books). They would also leave me and my sister (as I have mentioned - ESFP, 4 years younger) a chocolate to share together after the work is done. Being the oldest I was kind in a position of power so I told my sister that the more cleaning she does the more chocolate she gets, even from my part. I wasn`t so much into candies but my sister loved them to death, lol. I was always doing the easiest or more convinient stuff (I never enjoyed to do the dishes, but I liked using the vacuum cleaner). My sister would usually end up doing like 70-80% of the whole cleaning but I would take credit for 50%.
When we didn`t have a chocolate to share I would always make sure in advance that I would save some to bribe my sister. A piece was enough if it was her favorite. I would have also bribed her into telling mom I did homework and studied.
This went on for many years. My sister was an underpaid slave without even realising because I knew how to use my words. We all laugh to this today about it.
How was your parents marriage? Are they a good pair? What are their jobs? Are they good as parents, especially the intp as mother? Because the intp and istp both have Fe as their fourth function and it seems to me its the most important function to be a good parent,to help children develop properly. How old they were when they got married and got you? Sorry if tgese questions are too personal. I am an intp female who likes an istp guy, but I am terrified we both would be terrible parents.
Oh wow this is exactly my husband, just that even telling him all that only makes him start tidying up and then he notices this project that he left a few years ago and forgets about tidying😩 our son swallowed a screw when he was a baby, and only then he stopped leaving scraps and tools on the floor 😤
My ISTP is quite clean and neat. He gets an urge to clean something then moves on to something else and chips away at multiple projects verry slowly. I'm a starter type so I'm no better than him in this regard. We have the same admitting and failing.
Lol that example of danger is how I approach him as an ENFP - in a playful exaggerated way (appealing to his care for the wellbeing of myself and daughter) which he smiles at
and accommodates, or sets a boundary like "daughter must be supervised when in here". Being an example - yes that's something he cares about. :)
Maybe this is more of a male/female split for ISTP, but I actually feel like I keep a fairly tidy house. I do clean in big spurts unlike my isfj/istj friends that are continually cleaning. But mess stresses me out, maybe because I was also raised by an isfj? I definitely feel a constant judgement feeling in my mind when there is a mess, "what if someone sees this?" That motivates me daily. I am 1000 times tidier than my esfj cousin!
They get mad if you clean their mess because then they can't find the junk they were tinkering with
I was a messy hoarder when I was younger, collecting computers and guitars, up until around age 22. I am a neat freak minimalist now. I think it all changed because I own a home now, my home is a project that I love improving and making more efficient.
As long as the bathroom, toilet and kitchen are clean and organised, the rest can be relatively clean but disorganised
the self-neglect from istps is real. it's like he wants to hit rock bottom or something!! i try to give him lots of possibilities to not meet the terrible fate that awaits him by doing things his way, but it's gotta be HIS idea in order for him to feel good with the decisions he's making. some of my ideas stick, some don't :(
with all his complaining i just wanna save him and tell him what he CAN do haha but it's best to let him just do his thing in the end. with enfjs they are much more open to my ne suggestions and talking about it, they crave it even lol. well, at least they let me believe they're hearing out my suggestions haha but of course they will do things their own way eventually too lmao. im chill with that tho. we help one another. they do the narrowing down, I do the "you can do this, this, or this."
My room is always clean 🤨
Fine, my mom still complains from time to time 🙄
P.s. as a stay at home mother of 2 boys and a partner of an infp… my house is cleaned on the daily and there are still areas I am improving and working to put on the “cleaning schedule” but the self care has to be balanced in their first so that the cleaning isn’t off setting personal responsibility. So, to all of you Istp’s… one day and one step at a time! You will get there because you’re worth it and a hard working mofo!
My ISTP son can be so rude but is so hilarious with his dry sense of humor. ISFP mom just asked if he wanted to get dressed up and go see a symphony orchestra. His response “I don’t give a crap about that.”
Omg reminds me of me ISTP sister. She is queen “I don’t care” 🤣 love her though
very true. my room is a total mess. i only clean communal areas.. cuz i like seeing everything laid out.. im not intentionally messy i just get distracted.. but i need to deep clean it. it's bothering my Si 😂
My ENFJ aunt used to trash her own daughter's room and ruin her closet to make her clean it, I'm not sure if it worked
Shoot, INFJs relate to this 87% of the way too
How did you even calculate this
I wanna say this relates to all njs/stps (though I can say estps can be cleaner for some reason?) except sfps lol they seem more organized. I saw a video uploaded by a streamer who's a infj my god no no and no. Ntjs are a bit cleaner but they can have clutter. I feel for the si users and (Xsfjs).
Lol, i reckon this is high Se in general, i'm ISFP and i'm just as messy. That being said, i've seen some ISTP's be really unclean. Like they have their work clothes and shoes in the sleeping room near the bed, i'm like wtf, even i'm not that dirty. 😂
I am intj and I don’t clean my room l was cleaning before every week now every two or three months
hahahaha this one had me grinning
thank you for the lecture
As an ISTP I started with making my bed everyday. I still dont keep it super clean but i clean something in it everyday.
This makes me wonder, what types would it be that would keep the main areas clean or at least presentable for public opinion while keeping their personal space beyond that completely neglected and unpresentable? Meaning, they care enough to do it for the perception of others, but not for the own intimate experience, where they’re all too ready to be wallow in filth?
(Tldr: wayfarers: esfp, isfp, entj, intj probably)
Sounds like Te + Se to me, but im Te + Si and sometimes I do this too. The Te is the primary reason, Si usually is concerned with the discomfort that disorder brings but can also be prone to being lazy 😅
my mom always tolf me as a kid "if i dont give you a set time to finish cleaning your room, youll be there til the second coming.." 😂 i would get distracted by all the things.. pretty sure my mother is an esfj..
I'll have you know I just told my dad he was going to drop his food on the floor. He said no it won't and made some insufferable joke about the 3 second rule, as he dropped a squid ball on the floor. I could not stop him from picking it up and eating it. I also saw this video right after criticising him about letting his specifically oversized bin get over filled again the other day. I absolutely do get random dirty handprints all over the house, I tell him to clean his hands all the time. The scrap hoarding has been a journey that's a lot better but half his room is still full of tools. This is like my life lmao. He's beaten up his body a lot over his life so I'm his carer and live with him. The amount of times I say I told you so this is why you should listen to me XD also I'm glad he knows I love him and respect him and stuff or I don't think he'd like it very much lol.
There's still a lot I don't know about types but I think it's pretty interesting that I'm pretty sure my dad's an ISTP, and I'm an INFP, and my mums and ENFP.
Istp and i hate mess but not as much as i hate dirt, i LOVE organising things but yes it does get messy
WOW. You hit the nail in the head with this one. My mom is currently with an ISTP and they have a 2 year old daughter and it’s been tough for me. This guy is EXTREMELY messy-clothes all over the floor, food left everywhere; he doesn’t even wash a plate. The child once had one of his knives in her possession and my mom went bonkers on him about it. Where’s the knife now? His best friend owns it haha. He also swings her around in a playful way only to stop when my mom becomes upset because she is aware of the consequences. Grown-ass man who doesn’t do much, yet my mom is still with him. Not to mention that he gets super rage-y when confronted, breaking the child’s toys and slamming doors. I know You (Chase) suggest that ISTPs and INFPs get into relationships, but after living with this guy… this experience may inhibit me from getting into a relationship with one (my god). Yes, I am messy, but I’ve matured and am more consistent with maintaining a clean environment, though mostly because my mom is always on my behind about it. Jesus tho; I don’t know about that one. Great video by the way.
Don’t want to take all away from the guy tho. I’ll say, he’s great at mechanics-he IS an ISTP after all-and he gets things done when he has to and springs into action quick.
I am an ESFP and cleaning is the most exshausting thing for me. More than studying or other things.
My esfp sister's room is a jungle
My household is a very interesting mix. We have INTP mom, ISTP oldest sister (me), INFP brother, and INTP youngest sister. If you know these MBTIs oh man you can guess it! We have our ups and downs but as an ISTP I do feel like I am the most initiating person and it have taken me very long to learn how to get my family to do house chores! Thankfully I have enough sense of covert contract and making it pretty explicit what I want for them to help me. But my family drives me bunkers many time because they do not tell me things I wish I knew and we are one of the most lazy or hard to motivate ppl to do tasks. Thank you Joseph for always making these videos so I could understand better! Also, I will clean my room, I am motivated now lol.
I'm not too dirty, but I also only really clean up when I invited a lady.. which is also a symptom I saw in the ADHD community
Seems like it is a Ti dom (but not specific to) thing to omit cleaning your room.
Shouldnt STPs become clean types by default due to their high Se? STPs in my life care a lot about their surroundings. Like any sight of mess really hurts their eyes. They even discipline me to become clean myself. I learn more from them than my SJ family.
I drive my ISFJ mom crazy and I am guilty. I should stop procrastinating but I do not which is so dumb of me.
I’m a young istp I clean my room every
Day
I'm an enfj however this video describes my experience coming up as a kid 🤔
Thanks bro I'm going to tidy my room
I am an istp, and it is true that I do not clean my room, I think that it is not important, I think that there are more important things, and it is also true that I do nothing for my benefit and well-being
There are more important things, but its still important enough to do anyways, good habits matter.
@@Emily.J. you have to EXPLAIN WHY the habits matter, u cant just proclaim it matters. or else just dont comment lmao !!
How do I buy the " how to socially engineer istps" thing so I can learn a little more about myself?
Ps. Idk if that's what it's called, but I remembered something about there being a bundle for all 16 types being sold.
if you wanna see a truly messed up dumpster kitchen, go to an Esfp kitchen lol
the istp i'm friends with has the messiest room and car ever. im infp and i used to be hella messy too (can't see the floor or surfaces type of messy) as well so i understand, but his was on another level. like collect huge mountains of hair on the shower floor levels of gross. he's super lazy, but didn't see it being a priority so he kept the messes growing. whenever i'd come over, I'd clean the shit out of his place so surfaces can be seen again cuz he'd cook dinner for us and it was super inconvenient due to 0 countertop space.
however, if he planned to do this chore or that (or really anything, not just chores) he WOULD get it done. it satisfied his Ni a lot to see his plans come to life. if he says he's gonna do it, he's going to. he likes things his way. ni tert entitlement amirite? as infp tho it's super valuable to have around someone that means what they say. it hurts sometimes but with time I appreciate it because I struggle with seeing things for what it just is at times. it takes time for me to take off my personal reaction to his words, but I get there eventually.
recently he tidies up the place before i come over. yay! i almost found it weird lol
Lol, “dirty people.”
My own space is messy as hell. I do clean it once in a while, but it gets messy so fast. I want to be a minimalist, but I can’t let go of a lot of my things, cause I might need it. When I live with someone, I try to keep the common areas very clean to be respectful, but also, I want the other people to respect me too and clean up their shit.
Fuck it im buying a robot vacuum idk why people even bother and try too much some dirt and some mess not gonna kill ya
Does this also apply to ISFPs? Asking because you were mainly talking about Si critic & Ne trickster
Think isfp THINK, logically you know the answer:)
Think isfp THINK, logically you know the answer:)
@@superxomar4489 that's cruel lol
The solution he provided require Fe. So the cause and effects are similar for both ISFP and ISTP however solution only applies if you're ISTP
easiest way to get istps to clean: invite people over
Infj relates to it too
As an ESTJ, that would get under my skin.
Interestingly, I am marrying an ISTP (I am an ESTJ also) and he is a neat freak. We work very well together in that sense. Now, my ISTP brother had such a messy room when we were growing up. I would go and organize his room!
1:32 me (and infj) clicking on this video to see what I can learn from it because of my self-neglect 😅😅
My dad called me a tornado growing up. My organized mess was also a factor of my divorce several years ago. I need to clean my house right now but I want to relax a little first. You made good points and especially at work I stop and think how my ways reflect on me & it helps me be a clearer organized person. And I do feel better when things are in there place but the next day its messy again!!
Only us istps would survive these ww1 trenches easy
What? No way, My mom trained me better than that and y’all can thank her.
Are you sure this isn't for INTP?
Yeah, only INTPs are disorganized. Goid point!
I am an INTP with a highly developed Si so I am ordered. 😅 Also married to an ISTP messy man 😅😅
How do you motivate ISTJs to clean their room?
@@Clickbait_Blocker I'd rather kick their ass
so she must be doing the same si fi her se is stronger then well presents more
But but what about muh freedom of choice?
i cant think in clutter omg go insain
its clean and i make my bed every morning
Also… thank god for O.C.I.A. 😅
don't tell me what to do
typical ni user response, epic
@@redrobin7297 tongue in cheek
no
Why no?
Where’s the how to change your type vid, or how to cope with the existential crisis of being a shitty type
Maybe I’ll just have to be reincarnated or see what’s on the other side
Every type is equally shitty. The flaws and strengths are balanced.
@@Emily.J. shore shore shore ! 😄 mhm !
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